Should Vontaze Burfict Ever Play Again?
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Tom Brady has said on multiple occasions a player's best attribute is his availability for the team. If that means sliding 1 yard short of a first down in a September game so be it. That is how you play 20 years in the NFL.
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@Steve G that's not their quote.. It's been around a long time in the NFL. But it's 100% accurate.
He also played for an organization that put the O-line over skilled positions. The Pats have had one of the best O-lines in football since the Belicheck era, compare that to someone like Andrew Luck or David Carr who was forced to stand behind a line as holey as Swiss cheese.
agnostickamel Well said sir
puchy110 I wish my Texans valued the O line like the patriots, I wonder if bill o brien learned anything in his time there. P.s. He’s also a really bad playcaller
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Troy Polamalu lined up in the C Gap on the left hash of the field.
yeah what an asshole....he wasn't supposed to be there
I understood that reference!
You misspelled Polompolu
@@agnostickamel Pat calls him Po-lama-lu
After which troy felt bad so he gave pat a lifetime supply of head and shoulders. Great guy
Derek Carr had a broken fibula, played with a dislocated pinky, played with a back injury, finished every game last year being sacked 50 plus times. I don’t think he’s soft, he just loves him some Jesus. Alters your perception a bit.
T Co
He is soft
Lonzo Ball ur name is another mans name and ur calling people soft lmfao
Nick C
A name has nothing to do with being soft idiot.
Lonzo Ball Lonzo ball is soft
Love Train
Yes he is. Derek Carr is also soft.
If burfict played in the 80's he'd be a god damn legend lmao
@StormrReaper It was great to watch and I miss it a lot. This new Sarcastiball version of football is becoming more and more unwatchable with each passing year.
But he doesn't!! And he doesn't seem to want to conform with today's rules!! Time machines don't work!!
The games were more physical but cheap shots and dirty hits aren’t necessary
The difference between then and now is we know about what concussions do to the brain. If players knew about CTE back then, they would not have been playing that recklessly. Say what you will about bad officiating now (it is def a problem), but at least theres a chance players won’t be as messed up later in life.
Connor Leach the thing is helmet to helmet hits weren’t acknowledged back then so none of his hit would really seem “dirty”
*SEVENTEEN SUSPENSIONS*
THIS WAS A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT SUSPENSION.
Not accurate. 17 suspensions and fines
Ya it's more like 2 or 3 suspensions and the rest are fines.
www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/30/vontaze-burfict-suspension-history
Burfict needs to be perma banned
C B josh Gordon: first time?
Vontaze Burfict HAS ended a players career with a dirty hit: Antonio Brown
He turned AB into a Sith Lord
@@leetraviusmckay314 He turned AB into Beetlejuice
@@mpuchar5003 lmao
I still don’t get that hit it wasn’t even illegal he got it with the shoulder pad Antonio brown just goes down wierd I’m just saying
Did he hit Cam Newton at some point?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Hell no
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mark navarro it ain't football if there ain't cte
mark navarro you wouldn’t be saying that if you had to breathe and eat through a tube
@@FecalMatador yeah he would because he signed up for it and made millions doing it dumbass
Vader Minion yeah he should. Don’t start an argument cus I know your typing away with a hate comment
Exactly. How often do u see Brady lowering his shoulder into a group of defenders?
I think he'd get benched if he tried. He's far too valuable to take risks like that.
@bkstacker 247 maybe if their owner sucked off the commish more....
The few times he does lower his shoulder, it's amazing he just gets back up, like that one time his helmet went flying off of him
@bkstacker 247 I agree that Luck and Cam Newton didn't get the calls that Brady/Manning/Brees/Rodgers would get. That doesn't really effect the Allen situation though. The dude was close to the 1st down marker in a close game and he still had forward momentum though he was being tackled (and lowered) by another defender. Dude could have slid instead of going head first into multiple defenders.
He’s tried stuff before...
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JuJu's hit on Burfitct was the most satisfying thing I have ever witnessed.
Vontaze is going to be a star in the XFL
Berkan Ozmutlu you mean LFL?
XFL won’t take him
"checkered" players aren't permitted in XFL.
He Hate Me ll
Vince McMahon is adamant he doesnt want dirty guys in his league
I am 43 yrs old!
Or as Mcafee sees it, I am almost 55.
Meanwhile Brett Farve has consecutively started what like 80 more games than the next QB's (RIvers, Eli, Peyton) from a time when QBs got into multiple car accidents every Sunday.... Shits incredible
Yeah... and he also got addicted to pain pills during that time too.
AiCDragon he also when cold turkey and still played for 10 more years soo.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx Dude, what's your point here? First, are you saying that no player takes pain killers today? Also, so what.
@@juice1528 Exactly. Had a seizure in the locker room, then went out and practiced. (Not really but sounds good) Just not sure what him being addicted to pain killers has to do with anything at all.
Glen Pridgen he’s saying it’s easy to play every Sunday when you take enough Vicodin that could put a fucking rhino down. You don’t feel shit. That’s why Calvin retired. He didn’t like getting pumped full of pills. Shit fucks up your liver. I pray you don’t have to see any of your family members deal with liver failure. You just watch them wither away to nothing
Maybe Vontez got suspended in part because of all the fine he has incurred through out his career over $4,000,000 and he still hasn't learned.
They told him he was given multiple warnings that serious consequences would be taken if he keeps getting in trouble. The dumbass should just learn to not cheap shot other players instead of arguing his suspension.
Less than 500k in fines. 4.5mil lost from games not played
@@goARMY3591 so 5 mil in looses ? You would think a guy would learn
Raider Nation completely false, he has several hits that have cost him even over A MILLION. Hes accumulated 5.5 million in fines from his hits, and ped suspension. Look up all burfict fines on youtube theres a video showing every fine
#HeNeverLearns.
as an "old slow white" myself i appreciate the recognition of us being challenged athletically and there is no threat from us to do anything more than fall down when touched.
Roll over Dave...arf arf...good dog
Das racist hemi, we on da streetz struggle n getting hunted down like dogs everyday for jus tryn ta live ya heard.
Oh crap, comment section n clip, i should go to world star. Ill be back. ;)
These comments didnt disappoint... thank you
DoubleFailMech Only because they would rather run than throw but hell I can’t blame em I would rather run someone over as well lmao!!!
@DoubleFailMech They don't suck at throwing the football though. They suck at the quick decision making, and other mental attributes that are required to play quarterback at a high level. Not all of course, but most. Glad to see that acknowledging reality is racist. I figured it would be, once we got away from the self depreciating white humor.
TY Hilton IS for SURE the most underrated receiver in the NFL! Straight warrior!
I hate TY but that's only because I'm a Texans fan. Dudes a damn monster for sure.
Rip he got hurt tho
Honastly I’m a pats fan but he is a very good player one of the best receivers in the league
Burfict was already being watched closely 6 dirty hits ago. You cant compare him to anyone else in the league, because no one else has been in trouble for it as much as him.
Derek Carr: Gets a fractured spine, misses one game, back playing two weeks later.
Douchebag commenter: Carr is softer than baby poo.
seriously. finishes and wins game against Panthers in 2016 with a dislocated pinky. Continues to push his way up the MVP list until he breaks his leg. Fuck that commenter. He may be inconsistent, but he ain't fuckin soft.
@@sgtcoffman Soft? Hell no.
Brittle? Well.....
@@mfree80286 no big injury yet this year, so he's doing well in that department. There might be other struggles here though
Carr isnt soft, hes just stupid
So funny "He's almost 50 years old." Hes 42 😂😂
theARK designs he pushin 50
hes closer to 50 than 25
@@maxperez-stable6796 😂
Kenneth Bush you’re joking right
That’s basically 50 in the nfl
Thought the hit on Allen was unfortunate but not malicious. Burfict seems like he won't be happy until he kills someone.
@J H no he didn't. Lmfao keep up bud
Yeah as a bills fan I had a feeling how that play was going to end the second he bolted from the line of scrimmage
Bills fan here i completely agree with you. This was a football play with no intention to injure.
One of the few non scumbag peasants with common sense
@@TheGuitarifier education my friend
Pat, your show has slowly become my favorite show talking about the NFL. your insight should be held higher in the media. you played so long, and you truly know what you’re talking about. ty for staring this endeavor, and making a great show
Glad you always see the truth pat and don't just give hot takes
I like my steaks hot.
5:48 "git the hell ahhhht" Pat's pittsburgh accent seeps through xD
"He's almost 50," lol. Rounding up eh?
And Adam Vinatieri is like 80 years old out there kicking balls.
definitely 50 in football years
That was hilarious.
He's closer to 50 than he is to 30........ mathematically speaking.
@@BadWolfMMANashville skipped a whole decade, hes closer to 40 than 50
Don't understand the random Carr Jab there but alright dude
Seraphim 35 dudes a clown
Not Carr btw , who ever tf his co host is 😂
Seraphim 35 look at how Daniel Jones completely reenergized the giants you need be a leader
It's not a random Carr jab it just wasn't edited out of a video that's titled about Burfict. He's just simply speaking his mind and his opinion which unfortunately is shared by very many people around the NFL. He's pretty soft but an ok QB
Probably bitter he outplayed Brissett who Pat said is going to outlast Mahomes in the league.
I would like to know Grudens take. Two years ago he damn near wanted Juju out of the league for his hit on Burfict in the playoffs.
He didn't want him out of the league. Stop talking nonsense. He was doing the game and juju did hit him in retaliation for almost retiring Brown and when Burfict wasn't able to see it coming and protect himself. After he hit him he stood over him. Gruden said there's no place for stuff like that in the league. And he's right. Burfict is a dirty piece of shit but an eye for an eye and the whole league goes blind. Not the way to do it. I'm sure he's upset he lost a big part of his defense and team but he isn't gonna fight it and knows his boy was WRONG
Ab* not juju and it was more along the lines of 4 years ago
@@mattanator5 juju is the one who hit Burfict in retaliation for nearly ending Brown career. Don't know what or who you're correcting here
I was laughing cuz burfict is a dirty bitch I'm glad juju beheaded his pussy ass
I’d like to see them let him play next year. And see a whole team just spend the game cheap shooting him. Ppl say in the 70s he’d be normal. No. He’d be out of the league. The players woulda did it not the league.
where did this "stooge and sellout" thing come from, I love it
John Bell STUGE AND SELLAHT
I do believe it was zealot, but what do I know, English is not my first language. :)
@@freakazoid4691 Cool :)
@@freakazoid4691 def selaht.
Comes from some Pittsburgh sports radio guy, they mentioned it on their podcast a couple weeks back
Brady got hit in the back of the knee in the first quarter yesterday, and didnt even get a flag.
Burfict didnt need to "adapt to the new NFL" he goes out to intentionally injure people. I have been hoping for a while that he never plays again.
Stfu dude u have no idea what ur talking about.
@@jasonpopp2026 this isnt the 85 NFL. It hasnt been the case in quite some time.
The op actually knows what theyre saying. You dont.
@@jasonpopp2026 And once you claim your Nobel prize for discovering time travel, your "but in the past" argument will be valid.
@@hatchjustin ur right thks for pointing out wht year it is. Please reread my comment then his then rewatch video. Then perhaps my comment will make sense. Lol
Jason Popp you do realize op never said he wouldn’t do good in the old nfl right? He just said he’s a dirty player who intentionally tries to injure people
Gotta love seeing a concussion commercial from my local government as the advertisement.
If Vontanze Burfict played 40 years ago no doubt he would be held as one of the best just his style of play is looked down upon in the nfl
That's because they didn't realize what repeated concussions can do to someone. I look at someone like Bernie Kosar, people who don't know hear him speak and think he's been drinking. He's not. He's literally been hit in the head so many times that he's halfway to being Ozzy Osbourne.
Oh boy pat mcafee just said go Hawks. My day is good now
Thank you pat for giving the Raiders respect ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Bills Fan here, my whole problem with the hit on Josh Allen was that it was just unnecessary. He was already going down to the ground when the second defender decided to get involved.
Also, and this one of my issues with football in general, is that defenders prefer to just launch themselves at players in an effort to get a “big hit” rather than wrapping. The Josh Allen hit is just one example of this “tackling form”.
He would have gone with momentum to get the first and in that situation you can’t stop time and say ok let me not touch him. Also, if you look at it, he leads with the shoulder not his head, but because of Allen’s level it lines up with his head
Nick Leo I’m not saying Jones didn’t lead with his shoulder or that JA’s momentum was going to carry him for the first down...
But I’ll tell you what, running into someone being pushed forward isn’t going to stop them from going forward. Also, your not gonna stop the momentum by just launching your shoulder. Rather, he could have wrapped up from the side and tried to take JA’s momentum to side thus preventing the first down.
The crux of my displeasure with the play is “launch yourself” tackling form, that a lot of defenders rely on, and needs to be coached/officiated out of the game.
You just gotta realize the guys in the NFL today grew up playing in the era where big hits were encouraged and concussions were no concern. It's still gonna be a bit before the guys who are growing up playing today's version of football make it to the league.
Just because Derek Carr is a great human being doesn't mean he's soft lol
The answer to how you deal with Vontaze Burfict is Juju Smith Schuster. 😂. 💛🖤. I love that play when he's laid him on his ass and every NFL ref in that game through the flag and the sports world was like how could you do Smith Schuster taunt that block that perfectly good legal blog and laid a guy on his ass a guy who purposely tries to hurt other NFL players.
Accept the block actually wasnt legal...hines ward rule...though It was a hell of a play
Except* #NiceTryIdiot
@@thelonewolf7443 thank you grammar correction bot!
I would recommend this guy watch the Giants 49ers playoff game when Eli took one of the worst beatings a winning quarterback ever took. And he got up every time.
CHEESE MASTER There’s a lot of people that think they know sports but really just flap their gums. Eli got a little shellshocked in the last couple years because he had probably the worst offense line in the history of the NFL. But there’s no denying that for most of his career he was as tough as any quarterback in the league, and you’re right he never missed a game due to injury.
@@JJG86 1st nowhere near the worst line 2nd they didnt say hes weak because of it they acknowledged that thwy are getting old and realising that dint need to tske big hits so thwy go down alot and its not always thw best call
StormrReaper I’m a big Eli fan but it wouldn’t make much difference this year. They have arguably the worst defense in the NFL and a below average offense of line. As a giant fan I can only hope the Daniel Jones develops into a top notch NFL quarterback.
I remember the Steelers vs Cincinnati game where Burfict literally tried to decapitate Antonio Browns head❗️🤯. I also remember Cincinnati being up very late in that game a couple years ago. Pittsburgh called a timeout, they were driving about 30-40 yards away from a potential game winner field goal? When 1st “Adam Pac-Man Jones” was called for a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty, moves Pittsburgh 1/2 the distance they need. Then on a timeout, Marvin Lewis (former Bengals Head Coach) told BURFICT do NOT do anything STUPID....BURFICT, then goes out on the field and on the very next play, BURFICT literally tried to decapitate Antonio Brown’s head! He, “AB” would have most likely not caught that pass from Big Ben as it was high! However, BURFICT moronic play gave Pittsburgh another 15 yards! Which gave them enough to kick a game winning field goal with seconds left!
If the Bengals do NOT have back to back retarded plays? Especially the Burfict Hits Which gave the Steelers 30 yards basically for free...Was just enough for Pittsburgh to kick the game winner! I said back then, A.) This dude just cost the Bengals their 1st Playoff win under Lewis? And Lewis never got as close and was fired the next football season. B.) This player is not dirty? He’s trying to kill people? At the very least he’s trying to injure any opposing player. At obviously whatever cost to the team? I honestly think if that play does not happen? Bengals win their 1st Playoff game under M Lewis & he’s still coaching the Bengals.
If this were a “White Player?” Shoot, the media would be saying this guy is a monster! This guy is a Racist! Etc...#DoubleStandards #ReverseRacism
There are different rules, or at least different reactions to hitting Tom Brady, Manning (when he was in the league), Rogers and certain others than the rest of the league. Don't beleive me? In January of 2006, Carson Palmer injures his knee when a Steelers defensive lineman rolls into him on a low blow. Pretty much ends the Bengals' playoff run and Palmer missed the next season. The reaction of the league.....nothing. 2 years later, Brady injured on pretty much the same play in the same manner, misses the rest of the season. Matt Cassell steps in, Pat's go 11-5, Cassell gets a huge contract that the chiefs are only now recovering from (had no bearing on the story, but just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents about how over reactionary the league is with certain QBs in paying them dump tons of money with limited sample sizes for performance, but really slow to pay others). In any event, Brady goes down, and how does the league react? The next season the rules are changed so that you can't hit a qb below the knee
You can argue that it makes sense for the league to protect it's most valuable assets (the best and most recognizable QBs) but let's not pretend that the rules aren't different for hitting some guys than hitting others.
Not to mentioned the Steelers head coach smiled and patted that dude on the back after the play 😒
Gregory Richardson that comment was way too long. A business treats it’s best talent differently than its marginal talent? No shit?!
The Bengals got the Steelers back. Late hit on Ben put him out couple weeks and also late hit Bells knee SEVERAL times. So Bengals can go eat it
That the Patriots receive favoritism from the NFL is never news to anyone except Patriots fans. We all know that by now. Hell, Kraft and Goodell have been practically working together for years now.
The hit on Allen wasn't a "leading with the crown of the helmet" hit. I think he could have tackled him without a helmet to helmet hit. On the other hand the Berfect hit was leading with the crown and intentional. And yes I ama Pats fan.
satchemo24 yeah and the thing everybody is leaving out is the fact that the hit was only hard like that because Allen forward momentum would of got a first down so the force was necessary
@@busselfie6480 Exactly if that guy wouldn't have come in hot on allen he was breaking free of that soft tackle and wasn't "defenseless" like the commentators were saying Allen was going hard for that truck. At that point QB's are runners and should be hit like a runner Allen was not trying to get a couple yards he was trying to run over anyone in his path. Also if you look at the play Jones was actually leading with his shoulder but Allen at the end drops his head down so technically Allen was leading with his crown lmao and got clapped.
Npc_Hydra3 yes and OMG this fucking announcers are just the worst I hate them so much you have no idea
@@busselfie6480 Also once he leaves the pocket and crosses the line of scrimmage he's a running back and he made no attempt to slide or give himself up. But I get it he got hurt and that's unfortunate but he took the chance. He wasn't considered "indefensible" or vulnerable.
Of course you’re a pats fan. It was a bad hit in today’s game. If they are going to consider helmet to helmet so seriously this season as to eject and ban players, then Jones should be suspended too. It’s only fair. Tough shit.
Has ZERO to do with "adapting" to the modern NFL. Burfect is NOT a premiere LB. Never was. Hes just plain dirty. He plays dirty because he LIKES to play dirty. He's not changing a thing and that's why he's not going to be picked up again next year.
I can tell you didn't watch the game nor see the whole play sequence
One Mike14 and I can tell you act like knocking people out is normal in the NFL
Ok does anyone realize that the dude on the left has no clue what he’s talking about 😂😂
“And that’s a bakers dozen”
Do we all remember the Roughing The Passer call against KC in the AFC championship game last season? That was hilarious, buddy literally TOUCHED Tom Brady. Look it up if ya missed it
@Josh Dupee oh gad, you NE guys are so fuckin funny. And one of my good buddies is a Tom Brady fan... so settle.
Doesn't matter what the reality is, it always goes back to some Tom Brady ball gargling. That game was a joke, almost as bad at the Saints/Rams game... almost
@E BO yes! 🤣 exactly that!! Everyone in the bar just stared looking at each other in bewilderment
@Josh Dupee Dee Ford gave him that ring, he didn't beat the Chiefs, Dee Ford and his awful penalty did
Phillip Rivers stands in the pocket and gets smacked as he throws everygame
Yeah he stands in there and makes those throws
Most helmet to helmet hits are most of the time because the runner puts his head down if you look closely most hits are aimed towards the chest until the runners head is lowered.
gruden and carr love each other. i read a report that they have sleepovers sometimes
Props to Pat for bringing the treatment Cam got up. It was criminal.
You dont play 20years at QB taking hitts....1 play can end your career and your career is determined how long you can play....Take the sack
@Pennywise Wadford Elway didnt even come close to playing as long as Brady, and Favre is dealing with constant memory loss from all those hits he took
Favre got fucked by the saints because of bountygate, he could take hits but not intentionally being injured hits.
Pennywise Wadford how many times have you been concussed? What the hell was that sentence?
southern daze he is dealing with memory loss as well as stuttering over his words,he has head injury’s and that’s a fact that can’t be denied
100% agree on his T.Y. Hilton comment. One of the most underrated receivers in the league
OBJ literally just got chocked to death on the field and not even an ejection was issued 🐸☕️
daAnder71 I think you took the word literally too literal given the context 😂 hit me back with an argument not a smart ass comment 👍🏼
allbrosdjay looked like a choke to me. But regardless whose fault it was, it wasn’t a football play. So for Burfict to get suspended off a football play but these two dudes out here fighting after the play and don’t get nothing smh ridiculous
That gruden impression is perfect lmao
Dude on the left, have no idea who he is. Is damn Derek Carr/ Raiders hater.
I respectfully disagree, the QB was already on his knees and his head level did not change. Burfict launched himself helmet first at the guy's head. The QB was not going to be able to change the level of his head when kneeling to get out of the way.
Burfict deserves a lifetime ban, but before that somebody needs to give him a taste of his own medicine.
nazart juju Smith-Schuster did you can look it up
Bengals-Steelers 2017, Smith-Schuster knocked him out and gave him a concussion.
God Bless Pat McAfee for retiring from football and becoming the most entertaining voice in the sport...
Matt Barkley is still in the league? Backup QB has to be the best gig in sports.
Sam Bradford has been one of the top paid players in the league during his career. Backup qb is definitely a sweet gig.
@@upside93 Bradford was a starter though. I'm from St Louis I watched them screw his career up
@@jackmakackov7077 St Louis was the only place he was really a starter. He's a career back up.
All I've heard so far about Burfict is what he's done in the past.. not once have I seen any commentator speak about the actual play that happened yesterday..
And I know why.. it's because none of you guys watched the actual game and seen it live..
If you were watching it live you would know that Burfict was within his rights as a linebacker to attempt to tackle Doyle the way he did. The Refs didn't even think it was egregious when it happened. They were going to allow the colts to run the next play. But the officials in New York made the call down to the refs on the field, telling them to not allow the colts to run the next play so that they can kick Burfict out of the game.
And do you know why the refs on the field weren't going to kick him out? It's because they watched the play live, understood it was a bang bang play and that Burfict's options for tackling Doyle were pretty much limited to what he did, and that it wasn't malicious.
Watch the game before you speak on the game next time around if you want to relay accurate information.
Oh yeah, #FreeBurfict
Yeah these pussies need to stop crying about the dirty helmet to helmet hit he put on a defenseless player and just get over it #FreeBurfict
Josh Allen was getting tackled from behind, almost at the ground, and Jones took the opportunity to helmet-drive him. It was clearly dirty
If Allen had slid earlier it wouldn't have been an issue. Yeah the hit was unnecessary and possibly warranted an ejection but helmet to helmet hits don't just drop out of the sky. Quarterbacks are making it impossible on the defenders to tell when they are sliding last minute.
Try watching the actual play instead of just copying all the bullshit you keep reading in the comments.
I'm sorry, but I watched this hit and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. Allen was running and never even made a move towards sliding. I doubt Allen even would think it was dirty.
Carr has taken beating after beating he's the only thing in Oakland actually trying
Thanks for being objective Pat. Dude on the left had his pitchfork ready to go.
He looked like a he tried to kill Antonio Brown several times and end several AFC north RB careers.
So yeah he should be gone
LeDeskripshun NFL version of Evander Kane
He did kill Antonio brown
Could explain AB's eratic behavior
Tried to end Cam Newton's career too.
@@LumpyAdams IMO it explains all of his behavior but for the sex allgetions and even other early onset guys like Seau were inappropriate.
I saw Burfict play against Georgia years ago in a driving rain storm.. he had like 16 total tackles..
You can call Carr a lot of things but soft is not one of them.
Vontaze Burfict is exactly what he has been since Pop Warner, a classless competitor that has never had any respect for his teammates or the game! He has shown this since before his Centennial of Corona, to AZ to the NFL. But he was one hell of a baller everystep of the way. It's just a shame he couldn't hold back enough to let his talent dominate!
Vontaze belonged in the 80s NFL when players like LT would have shown him how weak he really is.
Miss me with that nostalgia bs
Or some of those Steelers linebackers from the 70’s who were literally missing teeth 😂
This is on the NFL. They need clear rules and clear penalties and a clear process. As long as they are inconsistent we will always have problems like this.
Lol, just watch Tom Brady’s first 5 years. He got his shit tossed. Same with Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan.
Antonio Robinson Maybe it’s possible their ability to sense danger improved over the course of their careers.
\^
Antonio Robinson pretty sure after he got his helmet knocked off in that famous clip he didn’t wanna take too many of those
Brady sensing pressure isn’t the point, Pat. The point is, that IF Brady WAS hit like that, there would be suspensions and fines galore.
Bullshit
Derek Carr has HEART !!!
Shouldn’t dog him
Every pro football player has "heart" that's one of the dumbest cliches EVER. That's something ppl say about players who aren't that good in other areas of their game so they say but he has heart.....basically translating from the consensus that aka they like that player. You're playing the most important scrutinized position in pro sports in the toughest game in the world by playing it your entire life. You have heart simply for that. But that doesn't mean you're necessarily a good QB nor are you known as a one of the tougher ones in the league both as in Carr's case
@Jason Brown don't throw THAT around. NEVER EVER said that's why he was soft. That can't be further from the truth. I was merely saying that you can't just say a QB has heart it's just pointless conjecture and cliche. It's often said when there's not much else to say about a QB tangible qualities.
@@NerolNiethsreg Mahomes is soft too. Calling for a Roughing the Passer against Crosby in week 2 acting like he got fucking hurt. Meanwhile Carr has been getting fucked up after throwing the ball ever since week 1 and has not gotten a Roughing the Passer called for him once. He hasn't even debated the refs to look at it. If Carr is soft, so is Mahomes
Maybe so,, but that's about it
@@kami1 he's just calling for a penalty to gain an advantageous position for his team you moron. He's using the rules in his favor. It's called being smart and exercising gamesmanship. Sure sure he's soft. Only thing soft about Mahomes is how soft the ball is when he floats it effortlessly into the arms of his receivers who are 10 yards ahead of any DB. Another clueless hater who sees my pic and just can't handle it 😂😂😂
Pat calls it like it is. It's really unfortunate that Allen got concussed, but he was trying to make extra yards and the defender tried to stop him from doing that- the helmet to helmet contact was not intentional at all.
Vontaze must go, he is the reason my boy AB acting all wild, lol.
Over his career, Burfict has been fined Five Million bucks for dirty hits.
Now, what did Macafee say about white vs black QBs?
Elaborate
@@chroniccomplainer3792 between 2:20 and 2:40 starting with his reference of Cam Newton and "Old slow Whites".
At first, I thought I misheard him. But no....
He should elaborate on this point.
Big ben, phillip rivers, drew brees, etc. are "old slow whites" and that has nothing to do with burfict. I still dont get your original comment
@@chroniccomplainer3792 The "Old Slow Whites" reference was tangential, not about Burfict.
Unless youre deliberately being obtuse, that should be evident.
The point of the comparison was not that Brady wouldn’t be in that situation, it’s that IF he were, the reaction would be different. IF Brady were in the position and got hit like Josh Allen did, there would’ve been suspension
Remember when Brady got hit by corner back clements back in the day
Brady is smart that's why he hardly ever gets a full head on shellacking. Burfict should be on the Commissioners list for conduct detrimental to the league. Not issued a suspension that he can appeal.
When I grow up; I wanna be Pat McAfee!
Can we just acknowledge that when a player hits a player hard he gets suspended big time games and in this case the season, but when players hit women or kids, they rarely get the same level of discipline. Only reason it’s a big deal is due to other major sports leagues having a much better grip over this problem as well as having significantly less cases of these issues, and I love the NFL and I just don’t know that it will keep a mostly positive image as long as they aren’t fixing a lot of the violence going on off the field, there is less violence on the field than off at this point and it’s just bad rep
If Brady got hit like that, of course the player would be ejected
He gets sneezed on he yells at the ref, Belichick would demand they get suspended after the game
Allen was scrambling but Brady is treated much differently than Newton, Wilson, Luck (when he played)
The answer is yes, an ejection and flag on the play would happen
Yes, but like Pat said you wont see Brady get hit like that, because he doesnt let himself get hit like that. Allen will learn to protect himself better if he wants a career as long as Brady's.
Sorry Pat, But that hit on Josh Allen doesn't pass the "Sheldon Brown Test." The defender was throwing his body at a moving target, not trying to wrap up his body mass. You'd never teach kids to tackle like that. That being said the NFL has been clear; if you leave the pocket with the ball tucked under your arm or at the hip, the officials are not protecting you. It doesn't matter if you're Cam Newton or Johnny Football, you have to know those protection rules. Though I never liked how Ron Rivera ran Newton into the ground with all those QB power runs.
I wonder who is softer, Derek Carr an NFL QB or the guy that was saying another man "is softer than baby poop"
He was doing a Jon Gruden impression
the kicker.
He killed AB 😂😂
The bills were going to win 100% but the pats will always take a penalty or a ejection for a win
It's not just that he didn't adapt to the 'new nfl' he went out to injure people agregiously, trying to break ankles and taking cheap shots, it's his mentality not just tackling high
Suspension is garbage... Doyle was getting back up to run! Tez had to make a hit on that play
I'm a Colts fan and I agree
This hit was extremely dangerous because it was Jack Doyle and while it wasn't to the mid-section doctors have already said if he gets hit anywhere near his previous kidney laceration he could end up on dialysis and out of the league forever.
Brady used to get lit up
The answer is without question 100% yes. The counter is that Tom would never get hit like that because he would drop to the ground like a sack of potatoes that is also true.
0-2:06 you literally didnt address the claims. Saying "brady doesnt get hit like that" isnt a valid response the entire postulate was theoretically if someone hit brady like that they'd be ejected and suspended (and yes brady does put himself in harms way, just last year v the jets he went out on a busted play as a lead blocker and the jets literally parted like the red sea afraid to tough him and the pats ended up getting 12 yards cause they avoided brady and the ball carrier)
Pretty sure that was almost 5 years ago, Brady was blocking for Blount, whens the last time he was on the Pats
@@djames6043 2 seasons ago
@@onebuffalo5402 So you want an answer to your imaginary world where Tom Brady decides he's the next marshawn lynch and decides to run head first into multiple defenders and injures himself okay nothing happens flag for helmet to helmet no suspensions kinda like what happened.
@@5koby4 bro, Brady got a roughing the passer call in last years afc championship game when the dude barely even touched him and you're trying to say if someone hit Brady like that they wouldn't be disqualified?
@@5koby4 like even if he was still in the pocket and got hit like that it would be called 10/10 times
If vontaze shouldn’t then neither should Myles Garrett
Where is the "stoooge and sell-aut!" from? lol
Fr I wanna know lmfao
MEZ92 da Bears
I believe they weren't saying sellout he was trying to say zealot which basicly means finatic like the Philly finatic in case I spelled it wrong an I'm pretty sure l did... He's saying this guy is a headhunter he doesn't just play he plays to maim ..I used to play football not on the pro level but I know what my mindset was playing defense first I'd growl on the line like a road warrior and if a guy made me chase him all over an I was a step or two "late" I'd hit him any way make me chase you lol but I tried to tackle as hard as I could ...never speared all my hard hits were with a shoulder
Let's not forget the same types of hits that got Burfict suspended for the season got Dick Butkus to the hall of fame.
Dude its the raiders...... Thats their trademark. ™️ lol. You love em or you hate em. A lot of us miss the old game.
If this was Madden he would have unlocked a platinum trophy on Xbox for suspensions in a career.
Think the NFL or the teams, should train/instruct players to perform some sort of first aid when there is a head injury
It’s more about giving potentially great players a second chance. Doesn’t always work out
It's funny seeing a punter calling a QB soft, meanwhile the contact they make with defenders is far less than the punishment Carr has taken
Gamaliel Rios , maybe u haven't seen Pat's highlights, no fear on the field and would lay people out, so he gets a pass for his comment
This is 100% true. Richard Seymore punched Ben Roethlisberger in the face and wasn't even fined. Guys have been fined for wrapping up Brady and taking him down safely. This isn't even an argument. The guy gets special treatment.
It's not a bang bang type of situation after a 7 yard run. Everyone just wants to use the term bang bang too much.
As a Bills fan, it kind of was. Sure the slow motion looks like it was intentional but they were all moving at full speed out there. Josh got wrapped up and the Patriots defender definitely came at a terrible head up angle, but at that point Josh Allen is basically a running back, not a QB, and he's trying to run downhill over another defender. He got lowered by getting wrapped up and the other guy was going full speed and hit him with the crown of the helmet.
It was definitely a penalty, and called a penalty, but the dude didn't exactly deserve to be banned for games for that kind of hit. Allen needs to realize he's more important than trying to make a dumb first down, but he was forcing everything that game, throwing off the back foot, trying to bomb passes instead of hitting his open guys, it's just a whole game worth leading up to that injury.
Wish Josh would slow down and take what the D gets him, it's his 2nd year and Defenses know he will run.
Football fans cheer these "hits" and guys that "play in pain" and celebrate hard sacks but then when players like Burfict come along the media jumps all over Burfict as if he is a horrible man but the fact is he is only a product of the media machine that celebrates all the toughness of the past.
Derek Carr could knock this guy out faster than Ray Rice put his g/f to sleep. I love hearing how soft ppl are rather than how soft they play.. go tow to tow with him you hipster.
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I mean ur argument goes both ways
Dont give a shit abou carr or mcfee just found it interesting
This would’ve been more meaningful if you knew how to spell toe :,(
Man this show has changed so much for the better