The Cold Hard Truth About Running A Sawmill Business

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 285

  • @OutoftheWoods0623
    @OutoftheWoods0623  Рік тому +11

    Nail puller from video amzn.to/3YkloS5

    • @WideCutSawmill
      @WideCutSawmill Рік тому

      I was just going to ask lol thanks. 👊🏼

    • @jjbiggmann5576
      @jjbiggmann5576 Рік тому

      what is the name of the music, at the end of the video, please...??

    • @danielharsh7698
      @danielharsh7698 Рік тому

      A really good tool. I have used one for more than thirty years.

  • @javajeff3772
    @javajeff3772 Рік тому +73

    At first I was thinking “man, I can’t believe he is not going to run a metal detector over that log”, but after you explained it, it makes perfect sense … at least to me.

    • @OutoftheWoods0623
      @OutoftheWoods0623  Рік тому +9

      Thanks

    • @mrwaterschoot5617
      @mrwaterschoot5617 Рік тому

      i hate to say it is a crap shoot. a better term is a educated calculated risk. nate has enough experience to guess where metal is or is not. he has his specialty band saw blade. that he has tools to sharpen or regrind a damaged or dull blade. some wood mizer operators chose toss a blade if it hits metal. if it is for a customer project the cost of dealing with metal in the wood is factored in the cost. so it depends on the business model of the business. i suspect the cost of nate's band saw blade sharpener and setter cost many thousand of dollars. nate controls the quality control and he can make changes quickly. wood mizer sells their own band saw blades. they sell band saw blade sharpeners and setters. and they have a resharp business line.
      different strokes for different folks and business models. the owner operator choses the best fit for their business.
      water is a fairly low cost lubricant that freezes in the winter and that is why he adds windshield washer fluid fluid for water and an anti freeze component. diesel lubricant does not freeze either but diesel vapor is not healthy to breathe and diesel fuel is not that good to be absorbed in the wood. and diesel is flammable in the right conditions.

    • @GrumpysWorkshop
      @GrumpysWorkshop Рік тому

      idk, if it was 2+ ft up the log, totally agree, just send it. But in this case it was 4" in - would've been really nice to just chainsaw off 8-10" not hit metal.

  • @michaelharvey7613
    @michaelharvey7613 Рік тому +4

    Thank you so much. I do not know why this is just so relaxing to watch. God Bless you and yours.

  • @gerdriechers8426
    @gerdriechers8426 Рік тому +3

    Being a young lad I watched a rift- or gangsaw hitting a large piece of a grenade (they said from WW I !). The whole saw came apart and two of the heavy blades were destroyed. Thanks god nobody was hurt but it took a day to get the saw together again. These sawmills were common in Germany, Austria and parts of Switzerland and Italy. Today they use large circular saws. Speed is king. Thanks for your videos. By the way as an old carpenter I would recommend - next time - use the middle as a beam or large post for your traktor garage.

  • @robinredman5192
    @robinredman5192 Рік тому +20

    Gorgeous scenery with the drone. Real perty y'all 😁. Thank you for educating us on why you do what you do. I'll probably never do any saw milling, but if I were to, I would be armed with a whole lotta good knowledge. God bless you sir. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.

  • @Curmudgeon1
    @Curmudgeon1 Рік тому +5

    Even with the stain in the wood, those blocks would make some nice carving blocks. Great work Nathan!🤠

  • @dennisatkins9837
    @dennisatkins9837 Рік тому +2

    Closing shots were outstanding!

  • @bobstovall9570
    @bobstovall9570 Рік тому +3

    I just bought my first sawmill. It may be my last but, then again, this may be the start of a great adventure. I'm looking forward to learning from you about developing a business around my mill. 'That Metal Detector tip is one of the most useful and practical I've come across. I just so happen to have one of those nail pullers that I bought for demolition of buildings for salvage lumber, another great tip.

  • @mishawakafire
    @mishawakafire Рік тому +2

    I had a nail puller just like that about 35 years ago when building my house. it was great and lost it in moving around. Didn't know they still made it so I am ordering one today,

  • @stevencroon
    @stevencroon Рік тому +1

    I love my Garrett metal detector for scanning the logs before and during sawing to pinpoint metal! Has saved me many a blade.

  • @stephaniemize321
    @stephaniemize321 Рік тому +3

    Beautiful scenery!

  • @kurtheinen2139
    @kurtheinen2139 Рік тому +3

    Just some fyi, I have a metal detector that didn't cost thousands of dollars, and I can pinpoint within an inch of where the metal is, and how deep it is. That being said, I'm not saying go out and buy one, but I'm sure there is a group near you that would gladly come out and detect your logs, for a fee for gas and maybe a beer. Just a thought. I do an arrangement for a sawyer where I charge a small fee, plus 1 dollar a log. Like I said, the new detectors are so much better now, and generally under 5 bills for one that would work. But your method works, just clearing that up!

  • @alanatolstad4824
    @alanatolstad4824 Рік тому +7

    I love watching your metal detecting hunts!---Those drone shots always give me a lump in my throat.

  • @brucebello2049
    @brucebello2049 Рік тому +25

    Brilliant video Nathan, I love that you supported another small mill and the lumber you got from the can’t, also the closing drone shots and soundtrack was superb, thank you, happy to support your shorts although I must admit I’m not a fan of them

  • @allanb9360
    @allanb9360 Рік тому +1

    Thanks again for this and the last video. You choice of music is frankly great

  • @raymedlin2811
    @raymedlin2811 6 місяців тому

    I believe you're spot on about traditional metal detectors usefulness in determining metal contamination in logs. Waste of money. But there may be an answer to your problem. I bought one and it's been an amazing home tool for me. It's called a Wallabot Plus. It actually pinpoints metal hidden in between walls and behind wood. It's like an xray of your wood. I found mine on Amazon on sale for less than $120. I love your show. Thank you for sharing your story.
    Kind Regards,
    Ray

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for sharing with us Nathan, good job milling today. Fred.

  • @geraldjones2099
    @geraldjones2099 Рік тому +1

    I remember my DAD had one of those nailpullers back in the 60s,he said he got it from his DAD, just some history

  • @texasjetman
    @texasjetman Рік тому +14

    Nice save Nathan. I saw a clip on Instagram and wondered if we were going to get to see that log on the mill. Very pleasant closing music. I may need a cup of coffee now.

  • @petermoller8337
    @petermoller8337 Рік тому +1

    From Australia your hard wood drops their leaves in winter. Gum trees are hard, sometimes drops leaves in summer.😊

  • @vincentnail2881
    @vincentnail2881 Рік тому +2

    Nice machine man. You're right, you know the metal is there somewhere. But you have to keep going. Thanks for sharing.

  • @robertr4193
    @robertr4193 Рік тому +2

    You got some nice wood out of that log. Some of it has some real nice grain patterns in it as well.

  • @donaldadams5342
    @donaldadams5342 6 місяців тому

    Wow, There is some really nice lumber from that log Nathan. Always interesting hearing you explain your processes for working around problem spots in a log. Cheers, Don from South Australia.

  • @ChiefBridgeFuser
    @ChiefBridgeFuser Рік тому +2

    Beautiful wood, along with your ability to create beautiful visuals and show the boring technical goodness.

  • @diedredunham7383
    @diedredunham7383 Рік тому +2

    Like always, that wood is beautiful! Thanks!!

  • @gregbozard3319
    @gregbozard3319 Рік тому

    Nathan, absolutely beautiful scenery and music in your closer

  • @owenmyers88
    @owenmyers88 Рік тому +5

    Great video Nathan. Enjoyed hearing how you were going to cut the log. Not that I will probably own a saw mill someday, still nice hearing why and how you approach things.

  • @ronbraasch7675
    @ronbraasch7675 Рік тому +1

    Nathan, could you do a small segment showing you sharpening a blade?

  • @rustyjames6312
    @rustyjames6312 Рік тому +5

    Nathan , I have managed a band mill for over 30 years now and I have to tell you that I could feel my blood pressure go up when I witnessed your opening cuts on that nice size log. I know you realize how hard a true White Oak is to come by now. Get yourself a way to edge the 4 inch 4/4 boards you left in those slabs. You know , over run !

    • @jamesa5720
      @jamesa5720 10 місяців тому

      If you are so skilled, why don't you post a video instead of criticizing a guy willing to share like Nathan.

  • @urbanlumberjack
    @urbanlumberjack Рік тому +3

    Really inspirational setup you’ve made. If there were sawmills like this across the country think of the stability in lumber supply we would have! The economic impact would be amazing.

    • @do_regan
      @do_regan Рік тому +1

      Eliminating the US's large duties (tariffs) on Canadian lumber would also increase the stability of the US lumber supply by incentivizing the creation of more large Canadian sawmills.

    • @jameshynes-petty6573
      @jameshynes-petty6573 Рік тому +1

      @@do_regan Canada is undergoing regulations that prohibit that. If the forest service still did meaningful landscape management activities we wouldn’t need to import any lumber

  • @johnchiffy1619
    @johnchiffy1619 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Nathan for the entertaining videos. Very much enjoy watching you saw that white oak today, beautiful wood. Keep the content coming. :)

  • @DavidMcCabe
    @DavidMcCabe Рік тому +1

    loved those parting shots!

  • @jimcorbett3764
    @jimcorbett3764 Рік тому +1

    I love the look of oak- nice boards!

  • @michaelmurphy3131
    @michaelmurphy3131 Рік тому +2

    Nathan, I really enjoy your presentations. Very informative. I know that you have explained what you do with the slab wood before, putting it on the burn pile. As a suggestion, could this work to Bruno's advantage? Have him (with your supervision) cut and bundle up the slab wood and then sell the bundles as campfire wood. He could put 80% into an educational fund and have the rest for spending money. There might be many benefits to him earning his own money.

  • @TimSeburn
    @TimSeburn Рік тому

    Really knows milling and clearly enjoys what he does. Beautiful countryside!

  • @benrudman3917
    @benrudman3917 Рік тому +1

    Nathan had the most expensive and most accurate metal detector woodmizer makes. 💪
    I know my lt50 works like a charm at finding any metal in a log.
    I appreciate you as always buddy.
    -Ben

  • @judithfairchild8620
    @judithfairchild8620 Рік тому

    I enjoyed your explanations and watching you work around the problems. Your scenery shots are so beautiful. Thanks for including them.

  • @inqwit1
    @inqwit1 Рік тому +3

    Briliant. Can hardly wait for the pole barn raising. Oh, and it's hard not to love oak.

  • @Toto-is8ci
    @Toto-is8ci Рік тому +1

    Cloud drone at the end was spectaclar!

  • @waltmooredanwilson8754
    @waltmooredanwilson8754 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing your video. I enjoyed watching. Take care and God Bless.

  • @bobblackhand3201
    @bobblackhand3201 Рік тому

    I agree with you on the stain in end grain like that being metal. I grew up with a LT 40 hydraulic used as a portable mill, so I know all too well about steel in wood. I don't know if you pull your mill out to clean your building but around 13:20 the frame can be seen moving up and down as the head rig runs. In our experience (fathers and mine 30 years) this is caused by there being too much weight on the tires, give those jacks one more click. Your mill is way newer than ours (1987), so I don't know if they still click or not.

  • @markrothenberg9867
    @markrothenberg9867 Рік тому +1

    Love the channel. Great information. Don’t agree about not using a metal detector. I’d be able to tell you the approximate depth and location with my $150 or $800 metal detector and a $120 pin pointer. I think you should rethink your tools. Time changing a blade and getting a new blade sharpened might be worth $300 to $500 in loss time. Just say’n…look at your per board cost and what tools make you better and faster. You already know the LT70 has made you more productive than your previous saw, as well as the tractors.

  • @brentsmith981
    @brentsmith981 Рік тому

    interesting and very useful commentary on the mill and procedures

  • @billcornett2256
    @billcornett2256 Рік тому +1

    I know carbide blades are pricey but I have seen Matt Ceremony saw thru substantial metal, take no damage,and say that metal isn't much of a concern any longer

  • @vincepresto759
    @vincepresto759 Рік тому

    Nathan
    Just a thought for you of ur Saw Dust !
    Build a long trough as long as it needs to be to get a tract bucket or a three side Ben and use forks too lift, make just the width of a Snow Shovel and may have to experiment on the side heights and every so often push out the trough into the Bucket or Ben and may keep the pain of clean up dust everywhere !
    Just a thought from the Presto’s in Missouri

  • @paulbarr3981
    @paulbarr3981 Рік тому

    My Father had one of those nails pullers in the fifties. I still use it.

  • @kevincameron8437
    @kevincameron8437 Рік тому +1

    Great job of explaining things to us. It truly is an art and you are doing great things with some great lumber. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnaddis1022
    @johnaddis1022 Рік тому

    Good looking boards I love your mill wish I could afford one like it. My son and I recieved one each of the nail pullers for Christmas of 22, you are correct nails not so bad I have a sharpener and blade set also fence staples pretty rough but a lag bolt will break the blade then you turn the air blue and chainsaw around the bolt and have some short boards think the tree held a deer stand platform at one time and someone proabally hacksawed the bolt off right against the bark to get the stand down, just my best guess

  • @Jwoodard9101
    @Jwoodard9101 Рік тому

    Man I have one of those mail pullers from the 1890’s can’t remember the manufacturer but I think it was made in NYC. Still works great

  • @gdreclaimed5442
    @gdreclaimed5442 Рік тому +2

    Have you ever looked into Carbide blades? I have one on my shop bandsaw and it lasted for 2 years of heavy use, I cut a bunch of nails with it as well.

  • @secretwoodproject
    @secretwoodproject Рік тому +1

    I got some of those wide ends that my sawmill I go to in Ohio throws out and I have made a couple of coffee tables out of them.

  • @jasonburdge9543
    @jasonburdge9543 Рік тому +2

    The center is still some pretty firewood, LOL

  • @NotSoRemoteAlaska
    @NotSoRemoteAlaska Рік тому

    No one really realizes just how much it takes to run a sawmill until they have one of their own. I have a couple metal detectors. Like you said they will tell you their is metal in the log but do not pinpoint the location. Even the big mills will discard a full log if they think it has metal in it. Your explanation was spot on.

  • @richardanderson3005
    @richardanderson3005 Рік тому

    I have a wall tie locator that's inexpensive (£120.00). I don't often discard a log but it may end up shorter ! I pass the detector over the log before each pass. Works well for me.

  • @mikesanders4012
    @mikesanders4012 Рік тому

    Having a Timber King sawmill, seeing how you layout your cut strategies is appreciated. Great show

  • @paulgreen2863
    @paulgreen2863 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video. I am having trouble understanding what a cant is and how to build one. After watching this video I think I got it. It will work better with larger logs. Thanks a gain. Yes I am new at milling.

  • @michelem9341
    @michelem9341 Рік тому +2

    Nathan: none of this metal stuff makes sense to me but I’m absolutely fascinated to learn about it. Is it possible to do a video to teach this better?

  • @edbarailroad7948
    @edbarailroad7948 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for explain why you don’t use a metal detector.

  • @jamesvanpelt7418
    @jamesvanpelt7418 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video, it's funny, I'm a professional tree man and when I hit metal with my chainsaw I get mad but when I hit metal on my sawmill I shrug my shoulder and get another blade. From Fla.

  • @snobear41
    @snobear41 Рік тому +9

    Hi Nathan, I have a question, I have noticed many of your logs are "well seasoned" is that a planned move on your part, or just how they come to you? - Tyler

  • @ronsafreed2400
    @ronsafreed2400 Рік тому

    well nice looking wood anyway...thats cheap for blades,,not bad...never new that,,i thought they were costly...guys use to bring there saws in at the tyler county fair grounds in Wv...,,and cut walnut...i seen a lot of blades go down,,,,there...this was years ago..but farmers were happy with the wood....the first thing i think of is bob wire,,,i seen so many wrapped around trees on the farm as a kid...we had beach trees up here,and you see some of the shotgun marks on the trees...they cut them all down,,what a shame...they were all nice den trees...oh well i guess you just have to put your mind in what you got...stay warm Nathan

  • @stephenstevens6573
    @stephenstevens6573 Рік тому +2

    What is the stone building you flew over with the drone, Nathan?

  • @billroberts3864
    @billroberts3864 Рік тому

    Nathan, thanks for explaining why you don't go out and buy a big fancy metal detector. Blessings to you.

  • @intensemojo
    @intensemojo Рік тому

    Great information in this one. Just catching up to it, grateful for the simple lessons.

  • @brianmclean7445
    @brianmclean7445 Рік тому +1

    The discarded center looks like it would go good in your wood burning oven in your shop, but I think you would need to make them a more manageable size.

  • @sumnerkinney2166
    @sumnerkinney2166 Рік тому +1

    I thought the blades were more like $130. Thanks Nathan. You are the BEST!

    • @boooshes
      @boooshes Рік тому

      That is about right for carbide tip depending on the length

    • @taylorlindsey4931
      @taylorlindsey4931 7 місяців тому

      My blades are double edged blades, cutting going down the track and cutting on the return........ they are $300 bucks a blade.....minimum 5 blade order!! Lol.

  • @SeansWoodBarn
    @SeansWoodBarn 8 днів тому

    Funny how this video foreshadowed all the changes you have made recently!

  • @PracticallyMint
    @PracticallyMint Рік тому +9

    Nathan, curious if actually finding the nail like you did here will cause you to alter your cutting strategy afterward - in other words, once you pull that nail, does it make you comfortable enough to go ahead and saw through the area? Or does it just make you cautious because nails tend to come in multiples?

  • @alfadoofus
    @alfadoofus Рік тому +3

    Nice video. I was wondering if you changed your strategy once you got lucky finding that nail ?

  • @seangrey3505
    @seangrey3505 Рік тому

    A Whites coinmaster is about 125 and pretty much any detector tells you the depth except hand held wands...but they can be adjusted to about .5in to as big as 3 in away so they could help but you have to have them to use them I guess

  • @stephencorsaro954
    @stephencorsaro954 Рік тому

    You can get a portable veterinary X ray machine for about 800-1000 dollars on line.

  • @timdwyer8004
    @timdwyer8004 Рік тому

    That is some gorgeous quarter/rift sawn at the end. Great stuff.

    • @OutoftheWoods0623
      @OutoftheWoods0623  Рік тому

      Thanks 👍

    • @willhill7293
      @willhill7293 Рік тому

      I didn't see that part I guess. It looked to me he was flat sawing 90% of the time.

  • @retiredteacher724
    @retiredteacher724 Рік тому

    Another informative and fun video! We loved every minute! We too love the drone footage which takes our breath! Is that your little stone cottage at the end?

  • @jbenson9403
    @jbenson9403 Рік тому

    Growing up on a small farm in South Dakota, I'm very familiar with the nail puller you used.

  • @michaelmoore1196
    @michaelmoore1196 Рік тому

    I use my metal detector to save my planer blades .most of the time I use a wood wizard . But i do a lot of reclaimed work .

  • @troybreedlove4195
    @troybreedlove4195 Рік тому

    I mix pinesol and water for lubricating my blade.

  • @bobbyemick4251
    @bobbyemick4251 Місяць тому

    Wow thats beautiful wood

  • @jamessteffens8337
    @jamessteffens8337 Рік тому

    Enjoy your show. You have the nicest saw mill I ever saw. Jim80

  • @themeat5053
    @themeat5053 Рік тому

    That Crescent nail puller is atomic. I've been using one ( the old US made were a bit better than the newer Taiwan models) for years. Haven't met a nail I couldn't pull with it.

  • @treecareEdm
    @treecareEdm Рік тому +1

    The music at the end of your awesome video 15:40 is absolutely beautiful, Could you please tell me who the artist is and the name of the melody... Thank you in advance...😊

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Рік тому

      + @Tyrone "No Goodbyes" by Amaranth Cove ua-cam.com/video/jbKhInaVrQs/v-deo.html

  • @FiveCentsPlease
    @FiveCentsPlease Рік тому +1

    Wonderful video as always. As a music lover, I'd like to know the piano artist in the description just like a couple of years ago when you credited The Eastern Plain. Thanks for your videos.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Рік тому +1

      Found the answer to my own question. The wonderful piano piece is "No Good Byes" by Amaranth Cove, a name used by composer Gavin Luke.

  • @newsnowriversidesgtrock
    @newsnowriversidesgtrock Рік тому

    Will the tractors fit in the saw building if the saw was not there? Build a new bigger building for the saw and park the tractors in the old mill building.

  • @matthewhaaland4004
    @matthewhaaland4004 Рік тому

    We’ll done Nathan! I get the metal detector question all the time.

  • @l.w.petersen7359
    @l.w.petersen7359 Рік тому

    Great video and some very nice boards. I was thinking that some rescue companies would be interested in that center 4x4 or 5x5 as cripping materiel for their rescue vehicles.

  • @soniaspangenberg6892
    @soniaspangenberg6892 Рік тому +1

    Real pretty property to work in. Enjoyed your video.

  • @ronnielloyd4514
    @ronnielloyd4514 Рік тому

    The part that had the nail in it you saw off. You continued to saw the wood into pieces. Could you have used the wood to make shorter boards. Surely you could have found a use for it.

  • @ChiefBridgeFuser
    @ChiefBridgeFuser Рік тому +1

    Could you, have you done a video on the bandsaw sharpening/setting process? I'm lazy and haven't looked it up on my own.

  • @loubowen6649
    @loubowen6649 Рік тому +2

    Great job

  • @briggsahoy1
    @briggsahoy1 Рік тому

    Good morning, RB, Nova Scotia.

  • @rsbracer
    @rsbracer Рік тому

    Great job thanks

  • @danielharsh7698
    @danielharsh7698 Рік тому

    That is the best tool ever.

  • @AllstarVentures
    @AllstarVentures Рік тому +1

    Nathan, what was the metal, just a nail ? I’m sure you’ve seen some crazy stuff that trees can grow around….

  • @davidcurtis5398
    @davidcurtis5398 Рік тому

    Boy, i wish I could bring a trailer down and buy some of the off cuts that you will burn.

  • @5ElementsWoodworking
    @5ElementsWoodworking Рік тому +1

    Nathan, you left us hanging!!! What are the downsides of diesel as a lubricant?? I feel so incomplete. ,-)

  • @jackrussell8380
    @jackrussell8380 Рік тому +1

    Camera is looking sharp!

  • @alwayssearching1882
    @alwayssearching1882 11 місяців тому

    That is some beautiful oak Nathan.

  • @floydferguson5366
    @floydferguson5366 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @gregorycarter3042
    @gregorycarter3042 Рік тому

    Just getting started as a sawyer. Taking notes on your setup- very, very nice my friend. My poor Woodmizer sits outside and gets the weather. My goal is to have it in a building like yours within 5 yrs.

    • @njonebale7889
      @njonebale7889 Рік тому

      I don’t see any money in it, and your mill will be junk in five years sitting in the weather….anyway why is your mill sitting in the weather….saw some boards up and make a shed for it…I don’t see you making it in the milling business!

    • @gregorycarter3042
      @gregorycarter3042 Рік тому

      @Nj One Bale Easy there, buddy. The mill is 20 years old and it's in great shape. Building a shed is easy enough, but I want a permanent solution and will plan to do so accordingly.

    • @njonebale7889
      @njonebale7889 Рік тому

      @@gregorycarter3042 wow! 20 years! and your just getting started and still planning accordingly…!

    • @gregorycarter3042
      @gregorycarter3042 Рік тому +1

      @Nj One Bale God Bless you man wish you all the best with your goals and endeavors in life and I'll pray that you find more productive ways to spend your time other than disparaging strangers on UA-cam.

  • @michaelsilva8854
    @michaelsilva8854 Рік тому +1

    Big fan thanks from Virginia! Just out of curiosity could you mill that into flooring with the equipment you have ?

  • @jagdishprasadkhaitan4815
    @jagdishprasadkhaitan4815 Рік тому

    Lovely Nice sawing