DON'T RUIN a Sawmill Log! SECRET How To TIPS from a PROFESSIONAL! Part 1

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  • This is how to ruin a sawmill log! Do not use this sawmill pattern. Secret tips from the Pros.
    Welcome to Hobby Hardwood Alabama - professional multimillion dollar sawmill lumber production business, ranked #1 by for producing the highest quality wood in Alabama. I show you how we do it, and how you can, also. No fluff, no spandex, only real information. We are not a video company, but we are a real lumber company, and want to show others some of our money making and business sawmill techniques. This video is another example of sawmilling for our business, Hobby Hardwood, Alabama. We show how we mill logs, dry them and other things on our outdoor farm. We use our amazing fleet of hardware and tools, such as our custom New Holland Tractor, Wood-Mizer LT-70 sawmill, as well as our Cantek planers, Baker edgers, and SLR machines in action, operation, milling and while sawing logs to lumber. The Woodmizer LT Super 70 sawmill is the the biggest, fasted and most automatic bandsaw mill Woodmizer makes, with joystick control and Diesel engine. Very few sawmills are this fast, including Baker, Morgan, Harbor Freight, Cooks, Northern, Timber King, Norwood, Woodland, chainsaw mill, and Hudson. It’s not an Amish Sawmill, but the fastest and most modern band mill Wood-Mizer makes and produces the best lumber wood for wood working projects and our lumber business. We also showcase our Nyle Kilns and air drying lumber techniques. Lots of tips and tricks to make sawing and drying easier for beginners and professional woodworkers to keep our sawmill turning trees and logs into gold instead of firewood. My buddy, Nathan Elliot, of Out of the Woods Sawmill, OTW, convinced me I needed to start filming our operation, so here goes. Someday I want to have as many followers as other sawmill videos on UA-cam, like Nathan and Outdoors With the Morgans. We show how to make money with your sawmill and pass on our how-to tips and tricks for better sawmilling. Watch us use our sawmill, chainsaw mill, band saw, and bandsaw, compact track loader and other Kubota and New Holland excavators.
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    Joe Maine (229) 563-1172 makes my bands for me, using WM Turbo Silvertip stock, 0.055" x 1.5". He is in Georgia but can ship anywhere. The best I have used.
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  • @matthewhaaland4004
    @matthewhaaland4004 11 місяців тому +54

    I’m guilty of just cutting the biggest cant then cutting dimensional boards from the cant. I’m self taught and fully understand I’m not doing it they way it should be done but I don’t know how. I don’t have anyone teaching me either. I really appreciate your videos. Thank you for educating me.

    • @TheMakersMarkTSF
      @TheMakersMarkTSF 11 місяців тому +3

      DITTO!!!! We really appreciate you!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +4

      I’m glad I can help.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +4

      I’m glad you can find it useful!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +15

      There really isn’t any educational help on the web these days, mostly just first grade sawing techniques by people who just bought a mill last week. That’s one reason I started the channel, maybe show folks techniques I don’t see anywhere on the web but are common for pro sawyers to use.

    • @zakbrinkhoff324
      @zakbrinkhoff324 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@HobbyHardwoodAlabamaI think the problem is lately during the last ten years the internet has just been filled with so many garbage it's hard to find the truth

  • @Green_Heart_Family_Farm
    @Green_Heart_Family_Farm 11 місяців тому +26

    "I don't care how much spandex you're wearing" LOL

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, Spandex doesn’t help sawing, it’s just a way to distract from it.

    • @eberduran6149
      @eberduran6149 3 місяці тому +1

      I think i know what channel he was talking about 🤔

  • @erickdanielsson6710
    @erickdanielsson6710 11 місяців тому +23

    I love when an engineer explains a process. Thanks Rob!

  • @OutoftheWoods0623
    @OutoftheWoods0623 11 місяців тому +12

    best Sawyer on UA-cam!

    • @OutoftheWoods0623
      @OutoftheWoods0623 11 місяців тому +3

      don't tell Jake

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I won’t.

    • @jamesbrischke4815
      @jamesbrischke4815 Місяць тому

      Nathan, I understand why you advise people to come here for knowledge, and also come here yourself. Appreciate your pointing us here!

  • @SheratonParkFarms
    @SheratonParkFarms 11 місяців тому +10

    Thanks for the education!! I can use that a lot more productively than some guy who is pimping out his wife for views.

  • @jasongriggs1502
    @jasongriggs1502 11 місяців тому +11

    Just purchased a mill (quite the lead time for delivery) and have been searching UA-cam for an education in lumber and being a Sawyer...You Sir, are the best one I've found. I've learned more in the few videos of yours I've watched than all the rest of UA-cam. I couldn't imagine doing those videos, but I sure do appreciate the effort. No need to sport any spandex brother, just sharing your knowledge will be fine. Happy Sawing from NW Montana.

  • @matts.6558
    @matts.6558 11 місяців тому +21

    I'm just starting out part-time with my mill and quite pleased to have come across your channel before turning into a regular cheese slicer. Looking forward to learning more. Not totally sure I fully understand the grade sawing technique yet and how to apply it, but I think I get the general principle. Please do a follow up video that shows this technique in action on a log or two. Thank you kindly for putting this information out there.

  • @petegraham1458
    @petegraham1458 11 місяців тому +3

    I live a bit to the south of you in Decatur, I am a retired engineer and have a workshop where I make significant wood creations, I have been buying my wood from you for many years , I
    will confirm you have a beautiful product that is dimensionally stable and because care has been taken in drying the beauty of the wood comes through in my finished pieces!
    Thank You for all the efforts you put into your product!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +1

      Good to hear from you! Thanks for the compliments. We try to make the best wood possible. It’s the right thing to do.

  • @jeremy6359
    @jeremy6359 8 місяців тому

    That is the best explanation I’ve seen. I knew there was a difference and your illustrations on the log made it clear to me. Thank you.

  • @5W5Y5
    @5W5Y5 8 місяців тому +6

    I'm excited to learn more about this industry, and learn it right. I don't want to pay all kinds of money for a nice mill and just jump in and make garbage boards, so thank you for this content. I have so much to learn! My goal is to make some lumber for my own needs (while learning) and also would like to eventually have a portable mill side business.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  8 місяців тому +3

      That's great! There is a tremendous amount of wrong information out there, so keep watching and I always tell the way it is and try to help people do it right.

  • @kitb9948
    @kitb9948 11 місяців тому

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! This information is super helpful to the unskilled, yet aspiring sawyer.

  • @frankmartin-adirondackcampcab
    @frankmartin-adirondackcampcab 6 місяців тому

    It took a minute to start understanding, but now it is clear, very simple but what a difference!
    I will definitely be milling with a better eye now.
    Great lesson, Ty!
    Ill be sure to keep watching!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  6 місяців тому

      Thanks! Like most things, simpler is better and more efficient,, but it's got to be the "right" simple. Most folks try to teach things in a complicated manner because they do not understand the fundamental "why" of it, they only know their version of the "how" to do it as taught to them by others. So they make it complicated because that's what they know. Thanks for watching!

  • @inthewoods5640
    @inthewoods5640 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you , for making the rest of us better Sawyers. ❤

  • @philipwright6683
    @philipwright6683 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. They are very informative and have made me a better part time sawyer.

  • @mlongley
    @mlongley 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this info, I have always just sawed to a large cant and have always had trouble with cupping and bowing, so that makes sense.

  • @josephvladyka3221
    @josephvladyka3221 11 місяців тому

    Thank you. I’m new with the sawmill, and really appreciate this knowledge.

  • @user-db7kw6kg2t
    @user-db7kw6kg2t 23 дні тому

    I learn something every time I watch this dude...Thank You!!!!!

  • @user-ih5ii4tp3w
    @user-ih5ii4tp3w 8 місяців тому +1

    Very informative thank you for your time

  • @DuckRiverHoney
    @DuckRiverHoney 11 місяців тому

    I appreciate you making these videos, I learn a lot from you.

  • @Grneat3884
    @Grneat3884 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for another great video. Some people look good when they are sawing, some people want their sawing to look good. Very few can do both. Looking forward to the next installment.

  • @TheOldManAndTheSaw
    @TheOldManAndTheSaw 11 місяців тому +1

    EXCELLENT, informative video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
    Dave

  • @ABBABEER
    @ABBABEER 10 місяців тому +4

    This may be the most valuable information I have gotten out of the dozens of "experts" putting their two cents in.Thank You for sharing.I subscribed hoping you will continue to lead by example..
    I bought a small mill and have had it in storage for several months because I was not comfortable with the information I am getting from the primary sharing source You Tube. Great video,please do some more.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  10 місяців тому +3

      Thanks. I get so sick and tired of watching "Spandex Sawyers" who never sell a board professionally trying to tell people how to cut wood to make money. You might be surprised to know that one reason I make these videos is to educate my customers. One told me he hired a guy to mill up some logs for him and although he didn't even own a mill, could tell the Sawyer didn't have a clue. So he started telling the guy how to saw (which went over like lead brick) and he convinced the guy to watch a couple of my videos and before the day was over, the Sawyer actually thanked the customer because he said it was the flattest, best wood he'd ever produced! I know this because not only did the customer tell me the story, the the Sawyer showed up one day to thank me for putting out the videos because it made a world of difference for him.

  • @JohnTHull
    @JohnTHull 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video! Thanks!

  • @kevinherrlin1772
    @kevinherrlin1772 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the instruction and information I can actually use !

  • @Splawnridgerunner
    @Splawnridgerunner 10 місяців тому

    Wow , i don’t have a mill yet but i learned more about how to saw a log from your one and only video I’ve seen than the other thousand videos I’ve watched over the last few years.
    I will be looking for your videos… thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  10 місяців тому

      Glad I could help! I have quite a few others, you can find them on my UA-cam home page.

  • @patricklasecki4426
    @patricklasecki4426 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for explaining the reason for cutting that way

  • @TheJkstylin
    @TheJkstylin 2 місяці тому

    great vid, love the humor and the truth all combined.

  • @homeplaceadventures
    @homeplaceadventures 3 місяці тому

    This is an extremely well done and educational video for sawing lumber. Thanks for taking the time to post it.

  • @arnoldpraesent174
    @arnoldpraesent174 11 місяців тому

    Very usefull an on the point - no long balbalba. Thank you!

  • @glennwilck5459
    @glennwilck5459 11 місяців тому

    A man who knows what he's doing subscribed!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      I’m glad to hear it! That’s a great compliment. Thanks!

  • @tonyqueen3160
    @tonyqueen3160 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent !! Very good information Robert, as Nathan said best sawing video on UA-cam!!!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Well, Nathan is always right! He’s a great guy, I’ve known him for years. He’s the one who named me the Wood Yoda several years go.

  • @ProfessorDisaray
    @ProfessorDisaray 11 місяців тому

    Rob, you're spot on. It may take a little bit more time and energy, but spending a little bit more commonsense is well worth it. I get headaches too with cupped and bowed wood, which is completely useless.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Yes, it is. Most sawmillers buy a mill then become instant experts, simply because they can cut a board. However, the wood is junk...

  • @michaelohalloran7381
    @michaelohalloran7381 11 місяців тому

    Great tutorial. Thanks

  • @James-gx9mr
    @James-gx9mr 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for this. I have been told this a few times while milling wood for yachts but you explained it far better by drawing on the log.

  • @bobmorgan569
    @bobmorgan569 11 місяців тому +1

    I live in North Alabama and have purchased lots of wood from Robert, GREAT quality and great prices. Every time I visit his place it is amazing

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Thank you very much for the compliments! Martha and I appreciate it.

  • @bobwollard9105
    @bobwollard9105 11 місяців тому

    I was referred to your channel by Nathan Elliot of Out of the Woods. After watching your video, i am so glad I watched you. Thanks for all of your help. I am a recently retired Mechanical Engineer and I can identify with your logic. Thanks again.

  • @MrZeal1k
    @MrZeal1k 15 днів тому

    Just put an order on a Woodmizer LX50, glad I found this video before randomly slicing up my oak logs, great info, greetings from Austria!

  • @URabout2b
    @URabout2b 8 місяців тому

    This is awesome. Always good to hear it from real pros. Spandex comment is hilarious

  • @hildacorea
    @hildacorea 16 днів тому

    Good info thanks

  • @donniebrown4368
    @donniebrown4368 7 місяців тому

    Thanks I just perchance a sawmill and I really appreciate your help. To produce the best lumber I can for my customers in the future. 👍

  • @jackspeer2127
    @jackspeer2127 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow! This has been very educational. Just found your channel today and subb'd. been watching OTW couple years. He's a good guy. I dont have equipment to mill but by watching I learn a lot about wood in general and lumber too.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  8 місяців тому +1

      Welcome aboard! I talk to Nathan all the time, he keeps telling me to make videos and I keep telling him I don't have time. However, I do it as much to help people understand that there is so much more to sawing wood than slicing butter. I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching!

  • @royramey5659
    @royramey5659 11 місяців тому +2

    I love your eraser, this info went into my library

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s good one, got it from Office Depot, I think. Maybe not.

  • @tzarro
    @tzarro Місяць тому

    Thank you for clearly explaining HOW cupping is formed, and therefore why quartersawn lumber is consistent

  • @goaskmymom1350
    @goaskmymom1350 5 місяців тому

    As a rough then finish carpenter I learned to fasten the wood according to the grain pattern your mentioning here. I know weather its an outdoor deck or rough framing headers, kings and shoulders for doors and windows where I need to nail or screw so there's minimal movement which eliminates cracks in drywall or finish miters opening up. I love your approach in the why and hows of your industry which in the end, affects mine.
    Thanks much!

  • @johnsteele5836
    @johnsteele5836 3 місяці тому

    I respect your professionalism and experience...and the reduction of fluff (perhaps a bit more could have been removed). Great information, thanks

  • @freedomconstruction
    @freedomconstruction 6 місяців тому

    Thanks! I was wondering about this and i am so glad to have found your video before wathing others who would have taught me wrong.

  • @OzarkCanyonWoodWorks-lu3cl
    @OzarkCanyonWoodWorks-lu3cl 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the best video.

  • @1982900F
    @1982900F 10 місяців тому

    Nice explanation Robert!!

  • @kirkking6601
    @kirkking6601 3 місяці тому

    I’m glad I naturally started doing that. Working with wood all my life I noticed what grain patterns were good to work with and I tried to mimic those.

  • @haroldfroehlich656
    @haroldfroehlich656 2 місяці тому

    You are so right

  • @ejsocci2630
    @ejsocci2630 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing,

  • @Charchar437
    @Charchar437 Місяць тому

    love this dude

  • @A..n..d..y
    @A..n..d..y 11 місяців тому +12

    Would like to see you perform this on the log. It would also be interesting to see you draw the boards on the end of the log your cutting and how that would compared to what you actually cut.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +7

      I’ve got a follow up of me sawing this log. it should be out soon.

    • @Z-Bart
      @Z-Bart 6 місяців тому

      @@HobbyHardwoodAlabama Looking forward to it.

    • @bobbyhempel1513
      @bobbyhempel1513 14 днів тому

      ​@@HobbyHardwoodAlabamawhat is the name of the follow up video?

  • @williamlake6151
    @williamlake6151 8 місяців тому

    Simplicity explanation is beyond compare. Great video

  • @adamdavis4876
    @adamdavis4876 11 місяців тому

    I've watched hundreds of hours of videos. I've had my sawmill for about 6 months now and this is the best video I've seen I will cut my lumber he's way from now on. I've had a lot of my lumber cup just like he said I tried every thing to stop it from cupping . I wish I would have seen this video about 6 months ago, I don't think I would have wasted so much lumber. Thanks for the video.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Cup is very much based on the sawing pattern as well as the amount of sapwood on a board. It is also caused by cutting boards too wide and crossing too many growth ring angles. This video also shows how to avoid this in cherry, where cup can be very bad if not milled correctly. ua-cam.com/video/2cmfN89MoUY/v-deo.html
      Thanks for watching.

  • @joegrochowski669
    @joegrochowski669 7 місяців тому

    just found you, thanks it is a great find,, joe and misty

  • @MrGwdvideo
    @MrGwdvideo 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video - keep it up - I have watched V1 and V2 a couple of times to get this in my head - it really explains why I have a ton of boards that are crap drying at my place. Thanks for taking the time. BTW - I would love to mark my logs before I start so I have something to follow until this becomes a habit - what did you use, just straight chauk?

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  9 місяців тому +2

      The best are Dixon lumber crayons, they are available from Amazon and places like that for about $10 a dozen. I like blue and white.

  • @butternuthillfarm1599
    @butternuthillfarm1599 11 місяців тому

    Wow, I'm so glad I watched this video before sawing a couple of large black walnut logs I have in my pile. I'm definately a cheese slicer most of the time because I'm inpatient. Time for me to slow down and read the logs. Thanks for producing this excellent video. John

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      When sawing for grade, quality is more important than speed. You can do this, and the results will be worth it.

  • @vittorioacquati5141
    @vittorioacquati5141 11 місяців тому +4

    Make quarter sawn great again 👍🏻 good video as Always

  • @trex283
    @trex283 11 місяців тому +3

    I learned by making a whole bunch of mistakes. As a result I now make much better lumber. My sweetgum now stays relatively flat. What I do is cut quarter sawn wood with a few caveats: pith can be a 3x3, and the corners are rift sawn 3x3 or 4x4. The grain is flat and stable. If the pith is bad, I make stickers from it. I get 2 to 3 boards from each quarter. I also slab my quarter sawn pices from the bottom up. Everything ends up with very straight stable grain. It takes more effort, but the wood ends up useful for furniture that does not require epoxy. Alabama Hobby Hardwoods is definitely worth the trip.

  • @karlbogrand1239
    @karlbogrand1239 11 місяців тому

    Great video thanks

  • @user-dj1yp8cu4c
    @user-dj1yp8cu4c 6 місяців тому

    This is awesome advice. I have just had a massive elm come down and I want to mill it. I have watched a heap of you tube that just slab cut it all. I smelled a rat. But this info is sweet

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  6 місяців тому

      Yeah, don't drink the Kool Aid. Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @delprice3007
    @delprice3007 8 місяців тому

    Thankyou Robert! Wondering if you have an opinion on a circular saw to generate quarter sawn quality lumber.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  8 місяців тому

      I have seen it done, but have never done it myself. It's fairly involved, depending on the headlock configuration, and generally involves lots of rotations, and produces a mix of quarter sawn and rift sawn.

  • @rossgee2950
    @rossgee2950 7 місяців тому

    Bought a sawmill last summer. My first lumber was crap. Over time, the quality has improved but I must say; this will significantly increase the quality from here on. Thanks loads!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому

      Thanks! We use these techniques in out business and it has allowed is to be recognized nation wide as producing first class lumber. If you use them, they will work.

  • @AdamNiddrie
    @AdamNiddrie 29 днів тому

    I’m a Sawyer for over 20years and it is good to finally find someone else who knows what they are doing . 👍You should show people how to produce an entire log of structural F27 quarter sawn lumber. It is worth twice the price as flat sawn or back sawn timber ( what we call your cutting pattern here in Australia)I think you referred to quarter sawn as vertical grain in this video😊In Australia your cutting pattern here is the most common pattern along with another cutting pattern we call rift sawn, which is simply making 90° rolls but to be honest I don’t use it as it is lazy and you basically end up with horizontal grain and one side of vertical grain in each board. But we back it up by ripping these boards in multi saws, board edgers and benches to spit wide boards into multiple smaller width boards after it is broken down from the head rig off the log😊

  • @danielstewart7748
    @danielstewart7748 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the information well done

  • @svgs650r
    @svgs650r 7 місяців тому

    Even though I don’t have a mill I do have some walnut trees that I want to take down so naturally I e been watching those very same videos and now I know the term “through cut” and it never looked right or made sense and now thanks to you, I get it!
    Great How-To, Thanks!
    Have you done any videos on how to recognize and mill for “figured” boards?

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому

      Sure, I'm glad if I could have helped. About the only time a log should be "through sawn" or "Spandex Sawn" is when making live edge slabs, which by their definition and intent are lower value cuts, because people want to use epoxy to fill the voids and cracks. As one customer asked me one time "How I can I show off my BowTie skills fixing cracks if non of your live edge has cracks in it?" He had a good point, but it's nice to be told that our stuff can sometimes be of too high a quality, which we took to heart. I haven't done a dedicated video on figured boards, but have covered it very briefly from tome to time. Sounds like a great topic for a video. Thanks!

  • @zachaddingtonZ2A
    @zachaddingtonZ2A 11 місяців тому

    Thank you sir, I started with cheese. Use a lot of boards for just farm projects but this will definitely help down the road. I can get some good practice in now. Appreciate it and I'm subscribed now. 👌👍

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  10 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful! Cheese is great to eat, but not good for sawing.

    • @zachaddingtonZ2A
      @zachaddingtonZ2A 10 місяців тому

      @@HobbyHardwoodAlabama worst is I don't even like to eat it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheZambie1
    @TheZambie1 3 місяці тому

    Excellent video. Glad I came across this. I've subscribed! I'm learning all I can as I aim to purchase my first mill in the coming days/weeks! Any recommendation on a great little first mill that'll do 26" diameter?

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  3 місяці тому

      It's hard to beat any of the Woodmizers, but I would try my best to get a hydraulic of some kind from any of several manufacturers, it will make sawing much more enjoyable.

  • @melissatuason2395
    @melissatuason2395 11 місяців тому

    Illl have to watch it again excellent video

  • @danielgreenwood3998
    @danielgreenwood3998 11 місяців тому

    Very good information. Would you recommend the same process for milling cedar? Just curious with cedar having so much sapwood and moisture

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      No, the only local cedar we have here is Eastern Red Cedar, and ERC is kind of a special animal, and I use a different sawing pattern for it. It's a softwood, technically a juniper, and change my sawing pattern increase yield on the generally small logs, to deal with the abundance of knots, and address the high sapwood to heartwood ratio. Thanks for watching.

  • @rickutley931
    @rickutley931 8 місяців тому

    I think my father taught you how to saw , we are about the same age and that is exactly how I was taught some 50 years ago. No disrespect but your spot on. Thank you for explaining it so well.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  8 місяців тому

      Your Dad knew what he was doing of if he taught you these techniques. The things I try to show people is that these methods have been used by "pros" and sawmillers for generations, they are not new, but were used because they were effective. The new sawmill manufacturers of this era aren't interested in having people cut lumber correctly, they just want to sell sawmills. So they "teach" people how to produce boards easily but not correctly. A sawmill cat cut a log into pieces, but it takes a "Sawyer" to cut a log properly. Thanks for watching!

  • @georgefeener8682
    @georgefeener8682 4 місяці тому

    Congrats on the award well deserved

  • @kevinalbeartie8499
    @kevinalbeartie8499 7 місяців тому

    I’ve watched a couple of your videos…….. super refreshing to see someone who has some technical knowledge and ability.
    Loved your video on bands….. super good stuff sawdust ejection and blade exiting. Don’t forget sawdust temp on ejection ( hot is bad).
    Would recommend a video on blade science, hook angle, gullet depth and shape, and offset.
    Great stuff you’ve presented.
    Please, don’t do the spandex, lol

  • @TheBurtle005
    @TheBurtle005 11 місяців тому +1

    I’ve always wanted to get into wood working. I had some logs milled. Im building my first river table. My long term goal is to get a mill and cut for others. This video helped a lot. The local mill cut my logs the incorrect way. Here I thought he was a pro. He squared off the logs and did flat cuts. I never knew walnut high grade is only 4” wide or so.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Many sawmillers are just “cutting wood” and don’t bother to learn the trade to the fullest. Unfortunately, I see it all the time. On the other hand, their sloppiness keeps us in business because customers can see the difference. Yes, according to the NHLA, (National Hardwood Lumber Association) high grade walnut only has to be 4” wide, whereas all other high grade hardwood has to be a minimum of 6” wide.

  • @make-somedust
    @make-somedust 11 місяців тому

    Guilty as charged…
    Appreciate the lessons

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Sure, I believe most people want to mill better wood, just don’t get a chance to see some of the advanced or pro techniques out there. Especially since some are easier than the basic techniques. Thanks for watching.

  • @billyboy861
    @billyboy861 7 місяців тому

    Your absolutely right however I cut a lot of flat saw'n boards for fences barn lumber it doesn't cup or twist too much

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому

      I agree, however, when we mill and sell high grade, especially walnut, wood workers are paying a premium for flat lumber and it needs to be perfectly straight and flat or they will put it down and grab another that is. Basically, it has to come dead flat off the mill and stay that way. Thanks for watching!

    • @billyboy861
      @billyboy861 7 місяців тому

      @@HobbyHardwoodAlabama oh I understand the buisness I've sold quite a bit of quality walnut, white oak, cedar and even tough to saw hickory lol we also do alot of slab wood for live edge projects. I like that you didn't try to over complicate quarter saw'n, riff saw'n and flat saw'n. You just talked about getting the grain straight for quarter saw'n lumber which I like since you were talking quality, I was always taught that quarter saw'n was for structural loads or furniture and riff or flat saw'n was fence boards, posts and barn lumber and I really like how you explained not to just flat saw your cants and why good deal

  • @ronaldmayer8440
    @ronaldmayer8440 10 місяців тому

    I'm glad I ran across this before I cut my first log.

  • @falownugkenmed1572
    @falownugkenmed1572 6 місяців тому

    You are absolutely right. I call it "wisdom in the basket' according to a Micronesian Yapese Islander's perspective. I do have a question for you though. Is there an important time of a day or months in Alabama when it is good timing for cutting trees for milling? Thank you and I enjoyed your professional instructions.

  • @matthewmumau1761
    @matthewmumau1761 7 місяців тому

    When sawing Douglas fir for siding, 3/4” board and batton, does this need to be followed or is this for hardwoods?

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому

      Paneling, siding, flooring, or anything run through a commercial molder which can artificially "straighten" the boards can be sawn to maximize yield vs straightness, or sawn for appearance, for example to get the correct orientation of the knots. Sawn one way, the boards will yield flat knots, sawn another way, the knots will be spike knots, and have a noticeably different look. Most heavy duty commercial flooring or siding molders can take off as much as 3/4" of crook on a board on each edge, one pass, which means they can eat some pretty nasty boards and spit out straight lumber. As a matter of fact, many high end molders have a "straightening table" for the sole purpose of precutting crooked boards to make them straighter.

  • @j.jacobson
    @j.jacobson 9 місяців тому

    Thank you sir.If I’m building just regular simple barns and not furniture in your opinion with wast in mind can I just mill a log the best way I can to maximize the lumber in each log.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  8 місяців тому

      Always maximize the lumber in a log, but if you are making dimensional lumber you still should not use a pure through saw or flat sawing pattern, but saw the log into thirds to get the pith centered in the dimensional lumber and to minimize the grain change in the boards, which minimizes movement of the lumbar as it dries. I have not doers a video of this pattern yet, I guess I should do it. As an example, decades ago I cut some 2x6's using the wrong pattern and used them as rafter material to screw my metal roof to. Before long, the boards were moving so much the screw heads were ripping holes in the metal roofing and causing rain leaks. Good question!

  • @3XJ-DreamWoods
    @3XJ-DreamWoods Місяць тому

    What do you recommend if you want the Slabs for live edge tables made from one piece? Is there anything I can do to do it right?

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  Місяць тому

      Yes, good question, and it is difficult. covered it in one of my recent videos. Basically, you just have to get logs big enough and identify and stay out of the juvenile core when making wide slabs.

  • @speedbuggy6269
    @speedbuggy6269 7 місяців тому

    Hello, thank you for taking the time and effort to produce and publish this piece. It’s greatly appreciated I’m sure.
    With all of this being said, what is the quickest and most efficient method of ensuring your logs are level before the initial cut.
    Do you think it would be possible for you to make a video showing exactly that?
    I know I would definitely appreciate it if you could find it in your already busy day……☀️

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому

      The quickest way to get a log leveled for a top side parallel bark sawing is to use the dragback fingers and drag them the entire length of the log. That would be a great topic to discuss in a future video. Thanks!

  • @user-bu3id4lj7b
    @user-bu3id4lj7b 6 місяців тому

    Hi Rob,
    Would it be a better grade cutting vertical grain than what you are explaining here? Or would it not be worth it economically because of more waste?
    Thanks for the movie!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  6 місяців тому

      Vertical Grain Sawing is a very good technique, and produces high grade wood, but its main limitation is board width. We, like many mills, charge more for wide boards “Wide Sort” so will make up to $1 per board foot depending on the increased width, as long and the boards are high grade, flat and sound. So VGS boards typically only can reach 1/2 the width of the cant or log and will therefore be narrower, and less valuable. Also, some people really dislike the vertical grain in walnut, they want flatsawn so we try to produce that first, and will resort to VGS walnut to control misbehaving nd highly stressed boards if we need to. Very good question, and in short, I make more money off wide flat cathedral dawn boards than narrower vertical grain boards, so that’s what I target.

  • @justinb1488
    @justinb1488 7 місяців тому

    That spandex comment got me🤣😂 pretty sure i know exactly who you were referring to. I'm not a sawyer, but my girlfriends dad has a woodmizer and i have 3 acres of trees on my property that i would love to process down for a pole barn build. Thanks for the quality lesson!!

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому

      My pleasure. Although some "professionals" wear spandex, sawmillers don't. I appreciate you watching and am glad I made you smile.

  • @olddodger7178
    @olddodger7178 11 місяців тому +1

    What about leveling the log from end to end? Level the pith, saw parallel to the bark? Thanks. Spandex does distract from the milling, although I have not seen any of their recent videos.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Both are important but each has its place and are sometimes done at the wrong time in a log. I did a video recently on that.

  • @robmack151
    @robmack151 8 місяців тому

    This video just got you another subscriber

  • @kailenpiardi2721
    @kailenpiardi2721 11 місяців тому

    commenting for visibility! good content!

  • @jeffpoenix
    @jeffpoenix 6 місяців тому

    💯 accurate. I just bought 1000 mbf rough sawn hickory that was face slabbed. Almost all of it is either cupped or bowed, which is fine for what I'm using it for. Plus, got a great "deal", but yeah

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  6 місяців тому

      Yep, unfortunately that’s how most people cut wood, about the same as they cut cheese.

  • @timbarry5080
    @timbarry5080 7 місяців тому

    The way I understand shrinkage is , wood shrinks more along the grain than across the grain. I think I got that from Bruce Hodely''s book "understanding wood"

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  7 місяців тому +1

      As general rule, subject to species, wood shrinks about 7% to 8% tangentially, 3% to 4% radially, and almost none longitudinally, from green to dry.

  • @anthonykarakas6391
    @anthonykarakas6391 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for this video, can you do Part 2 that shows the actual cutting process?

  • @MakerBoyOldBoy
    @MakerBoyOldBoy 5 місяців тому

    I'm pretty sure I have watched the spandex videos and questioned the consistent through sawing of each log. As a shop woodworker dealing with wood cupping and bowing for decades I am learning how badly most lumber is milled. As with any milling operation knowing how to maximize high quality yield is critical. I have had to adjust computer generated print outs. Thanks for the simple and rational layout guidelines. The shame is that so few will follow them.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  4 місяці тому

      Thanks! You are correct, most sawyers just saw to make quantity,, not quality. That's how we stay in business, nobody seems to care how bad their wood looks, except the customer who pays for it. So that is our niche, we mill high grade, and people come from literally all over the country to buy it.

  • @nanook1967
    @nanook1967 8 місяців тому

    Wow man....Thank you...Can the pith wood be used for anything? (i.e.-Pondering a tree house for nephew) Or will it just mangle in time? Thanks for saving me some headaches

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  8 місяців тому

      Yes, with conditions....Since the pith has a different cellular structure than the rest of the wood, and can go out as much as 30 growth rings depending, then yes you can use it for some things as long as there is enough wood surrounding the pith to have enough structural integrity to serve the purpose. For example, posts and beams can be pith centered, and certainly pretty much any rail road crosstie is pith centered. So when people ask me how a pith centered beam or post look after it dries, I say it will crack and look exactly like a railroad crosstie. Otherwise, its kind ion a non decision because thinner pith centered boards will generally crack badly or deform badly after they are dried so will be obvious firewood, even if they look kind of OK coming off the mill.

  • @ChrisH316
    @ChrisH316 11 місяців тому

    Great video !!! Sounds like your talkin about “ Howdy Folks “ That agravantes the crap out of all us folks out here that actually have to BUY what we use and know how to use it !!! Again, very awesome video

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому +1

      Some folks on the web are good, some not so good. Very few actually have to sell what they saw to stay in business. We do.

  • @leosargent5853
    @leosargent5853 11 місяців тому

    Triple degree burn , lol . Have to send out some aloe vera🤣
    always learn something with HHA , thank you so much for sharing.

  • @user-lk3qm8yq3f
    @user-lk3qm8yq3f 7 місяців тому

    Scaffling timber. N#1

  • @johnwoody4905
    @johnwoody4905 11 місяців тому +1

    good video i will try and do better. i have seen a lot of the good ones saw like you.. i am using most of mine for sheds. i would tell you to start a saw milling school but you would end up going nuts. take care, be safe and well.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  11 місяців тому

      Part of the problem is that most the videos on sawing just don’t do it in an optimized pattern and it’s hard to learn if the teacher is teaching wrong. So if I can show some professional techniques that are easy, then people can do better sawing with less effort.

  • @timalban1433
    @timalban1433 6 місяців тому

    I just got a chainsaw and an Alaskan mill. I have been wanting to do some milling for a long time but you’re right all I ever see are people cutting logs like cheese. I’m so glad I found your channel. So random too. There’s almost no reason for your channel to show up on my feed

  • @rickutley931
    @rickutley931 2 місяці тому

    Thank you I have sawn lumber for the better part of fifty years . I am also a grade sawyer (retired), and I could have explained it as good as you did. You should do live seminars.

    • @rickutley931
      @rickutley931 2 місяці тому

      Sorry it was supposed to say that I couldn't have

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  2 місяці тому

      I appreciate your background, experience, and your comments. I respect the years you spent on the mill, and thank you for your compliments.

    • @HobbyHardwoodAlabama
      @HobbyHardwoodAlabama  2 місяці тому

      Great to hear!

  • @soulehawk
    @soulehawk 9 місяців тому

    Hot damn, so glad I found this video and you.