Space Station Collision - Mir Crash with Progress Supply Vessel
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2017
- Of all the 100’s of thousands of pieces of space junk and nearly 1500 satellites in orbit around the earth, it may come as a surprise that so far there has been only one major collision involving a manned craft and it affected both Russians and Americans.
This is the almost forgotten story of the only major collision to involve a manned space vehicle, in this case, the Russian space station Mir and a Progress resupply cargo vessel in 1997.
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The whole Soviet/Russian stuff is very interesting and less known than the Western space history. More is appreciated.
And even less people know that Mir had a space motorcycle
I bothered to follow it for years, so it's not all that unknown to me.
@@nicolasfinnegan7545 Coriolis force
Nicolas Finnegan you have brain damage
There are great two movies which I had the pleasure to see in cinema, - The Spacewalker 2017, about first space walk in history, - and Salyut-7, - about biggest repair operation ever achieved in space.
They both are pretty good.
I still remember the Taco Bell promotion where after re-entry if the core of the space station hit a 40x40 foot floating target in the South Pacific back in 2001 - everyone in the United States would have gotten a free taco. It missed of-course. Oddly enough, Taco Bell got insurance for the promotion in case it hit. Who creates a single-use taco-insurance policy would be my question.
@Hallison Michel Still, think if it got hit? That would have been couple of hundred of million dollars, at the least?
mgabrysSF i remember that lol
I'd call that a bet more than insurance
"Lloyd's of London" Who will insure the impossible and/or uninsurable everywhere else.
Remember the Pepsi Point fiasco and the Harrier Jet prize that someone got the 7 million Pepsi Points to win? So they had some legal fears..... See below.
They write policies that cover the weird and/or bizarre like models insuring their legs, musicians insuring their hands and/or vocal cords. The one of the few things they wouldn't insure was the first astronauts(shouldn't they be called Cosmonauts since they were first ones and naming rights go to the first people but I digress).
Some highlights ?
* In the 1940s, executives at 20th Century Fox had the legs of actress Betty Grable insured for $1 million each
*Michael Flatley -- star of Riverdance and Lord of the Dance -- insured his legs for an unbelievable $47 million.
* KISS front man insured his trademark tongue for more than $1 million back in the ‘70s. Which seems pretty gross until you consider…
Now was Lloyd's crazy or ahead of their time? They first to start insuring space satellites. Starting with Intelstat 1 in the 1970s. Lloyd’s value the policies at $100 million each, and they mean business. In 1984, the company put up financing for a space shuttle and a crew of five astronauts to reclaim two rogue satellites.
Guess which company was the first to start selling Car Insurance? They described an automobile as a “ship navigating on land” (for insurance purposes, presumably)
Sorry for the digress, back to the your comment about Pepsi....
Taco Bell knew it was publicity stunt but after the "Pepsi Points" and the "Harrier Jet" 7,000,000 points(which someone did get that many absurd high number and try to claim the legally advertise prize) scandal. SoTaco Bell had very reasonable fears for if their "can't happen" stunt actually does, than expensive legal doo-doo will fly. So due to the possible risk. and toll on private franchise owners. they took out Insurance coverage.
The odds of debris hitting that target was about 1 in 7.5 billion. 7.5 billion is also about how many people are living on earth. Taco Bell had nothing to worry about. Even if it did hit, they could afford to give away free tacos. They didn't need insurance. Tacos are cheap to make, plus few would bother going to Taco Bell for their free taco.
*me docking in Kerbal Space Program*
This is me lmao
The way I find best to dock in KSP is in 4 steps: Get vessel inline of sight of docking port, with 0 relative velocity, then 2: SAS on both vessels to force them to focus each-other, repeat step 1 until direct approach is possible, and then step 4: Approach slowly.
SO TURE ;D
Lol
I can't count the number of times I've made similar... ehem, "dockings"... XD Though in Orbiter Spaceflight Simulator, rather than KSP. Got better at docking later, though... But I haven't played Orbiter in ages, sadly.
I have an old Radio Shack transceiver, tuned it to 145.80. I took an old busted metal tape measure, cut it up and made an antenna with some pvc pieces. Waited for the ISS to pass over. It was pre-dawn, and it was lit up like a star. I pointed my homemade antenna at it and heard an astronaut talking to a classroom full of kids somewhere on Earth. It was incredible, how loud and clear the signal was, how fast the ISS flew across the sky. I was so excited I forgot to record the whole thing.
Wow that sounds amazing. Would love to try that myself.
Man! A setup like that could be used to reinforce the reality to these flat earth, NASA hater, "fakestation" whiners that the thing is actually up there. So tired of that crap!
SteverRob
witch way does the is orbit? I thought I saw it once! is it east to west or west to east?
James stranger ISS orbits in the direction of Earth's orbit (prograde). So if you catch it, it comes up from the west and passes overhead to the east.
SteverRob Lmfao!!! Yeah right!
I think it was very honerable how the Russia told the American to gtfo and be ready to evacuate. Like a captain going down with his ship the russian was not going to give up.
@UFO's at the ISS Agreed, but its still the commander (or the captain of the ship) and his crew, so the OP's analogy was indeed quite correct!
@Secret Space Program why r u so fuckin angry?
Secret Space Program can you fucking calm down.
Mir was a barely holding together piece of junk at that time. The level of improvisation used to keep it going would make ISS operators scream in agony.
They were very aware how close they were to disaster. And how that would look in US TV if it affected an Nasa Astronaut.
Yeah they see thenselfs as Colleges probably friends. Its not like they distrust and dispice each other. There sientists and they probably would risk tehre lives to save each other.
Thank you for dedicating time to the Soviet/Russian space program!
Yes! It's so often overlooked.
This automated docking system was a kurse
Alright i won't do that again
"kurse"
Reddit is leaking...
The name is 'Course'
Nice pun
ANGELM73350 Kurs
The Mir Space Station as I remember it was like my old 1986 Honda Accord. It continuously had problems but kept on going. The International Space Station is more like new more modern car. Its much more efficient and is bigger but like newer cars also much more expensive and maybe not as tough.
Lets see how the iss will be doing after running 3 times it's designed lifespan. Iss is still inside it's designed lifespan atm.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 yeah.
There was also the higher dose of radiation that came with it the ISS has better shielding
Wow, I didn't know we had such a nailbiter on the MIR. That is horror movie material.
VraccasVII Not the only near disaster for Mir. Wikipedia it.
I legit covered my mouth with my hand during that animation, just knowing how bad things could've gone.
VraccasVII There was also a fire in a module, and the inner walls where filled with bacteria
Yeah the fire was really bad. Fire in space is horrible. The flames can just float off on the air in all directions and "stick" to anything they touch and set it on fire. They very nearly had it during that episode as well as this one. MIR was amazing but it sure took some balls to live in it during the later stages.
I'd rather watch a movie about this than Gravity!
It's comforting to know that even when international relations are on edge, our countries still cooperate in space.
EdricLysharae I agree the dangers of space force countries to join forces even in tense times. There is no and never should be war in space
@@thatoneguy611 Space will eventually become another battlefield. Though that is pretty far in the future, when space powers can afford waging space wars.
Toafloast don’t make me think about it.
Especially relevant today
I love when we can see the ISS at night in the UK, and especially when the resupply vessel is chasing it through space. When you think about watching two spaceships orbiting the planet with the naked eye it's simply amazing. Just imagine what we could be achieving if we weren't spending trillions or War and weapons
A`O so james`s eyes are computers?
A O Seriously, go outside sometimes. On a clear night right after dusk you can easily see the ISS zip over you. I know this because I have seen it myself with my own eyes. The minute it was supposed to, it appeared, rose in an apparent arc to 23 degrees over the horizon and disappeared 5 minutes later, just like an orbiting space station would behave according to physics.
Or was that just a scam? Are NASA using HAARP and chemtrails to alter my eyesight? And they also apparently have Roscosmos and ESA with them on the worldwide "scam" that involves millions of people in the aerospace industry, and not one have admitted it? So get out of your basement, read a book and go for a walk, and start to use logic and reason to understand the world.
Is it really possible to see the resupply vessel when it's positioned at a distance from the ISS? The space station itself only appears as a faint dot. It would surprise me to also be able to see a Dragon capsule with the naked eye.
The ISS is actually very bright it is the third brightest object in the sky after the sun and the moon, brighter than Venus on most days. You can see normal satellites with the eye and those are relatively faint but still very visible. And there is a website, something like spot the station, it tells you where it is and you can set up notifications if it passes over you. Most satellites are not that much bigger than a Dragon and a lot further away so you should see a docking quite well.
Idiot
This video was amazing, It shows you how resourceful humans can be in the face of danger.
As dangerous as it was, Michael Foale and the crew stayed extremely calm. I recently had the pleasure of meeting him during the ISSET Mission Discovery program where he shared his stories about an astronaut. He said thankfully due to the training they had received, the crew stayed calm and fixed the issue. It was most impressive and we seen some footage from their handheld cameras many others wouldn't get to see.
The only thing it shows is how crappy CGI was back then...
Mir is my favorite of all space stations so far...rip
It's like your favorite show, it always gets canceled.
For all its faults, Mir was a beautiful station, and its name represented perhaps the spirit if not the word of its creators. I was truly sad when it was deorbited. :
Excellent as always!!
A few years back, they were going to deorbit the ISS. It got as far as funding the deorbiting. When the whole thing was resolved, the money to deorbit was used to run the station until the new money showed up. None of this ever made any sense to me, maybe you could do a show on it and explain what happened here an, how this somehow seem like a good idea to those in charge.
Ever heard of MRI? Without projects like the ISS we wouldn't have that. Money well spent!
Science was always a "money waster". But without it, we'd still sit in caves.
Mind you, it would be a more appropriate environment for Trump.
That was indeed a stupid decision.
We will be discovering new science based on the research conducted on the ISS for decades to come. Long after the station has burned up. Technically Apollo was giant waste of money, yet it was the greatest technological achievement of the 20th century (lets not count atom bombs) and we have made so much amazing technology that was first developed for Apollo. Everything from microchips to solar panels. There is a book published every year by NASA that contains the spin-offs that where enables by their research. It is usually a very thick book with hundreds of pages. The space shuttle was giant waste of money. I will always love it and have pictures of it hanging in my house but it was a huge waste of money that ended up holding humanity back in space. Still a fantastic piece of engineering.
Also, when it eventually comes to its end, the ISS will not be fully de-orbited. Russia has bought and will buy other parts of the station besides the original Russian modules, which will be docked to another, completely Russian, pernament space station. Only the modules deemed obsolete will be de-orbired.
Holy crap. I never heard this story. Thanks for keeping this information alive!
7:14 What a true scientific mindset.....just genius.
...And I'm SURE these guys (cosmonauts & astronauts) have to perform duties/calculations like this several times a day.
Well gave the US all the reason they needed to say we're moving to are own station, Have fun with your docking experiments.
Robert Hospodar
I think the onboard fire had more impact.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.universetoday.com/100229/fire-how-the-mir-incident-changed-space-station-safety/amp/
Oops, we accidentially hit the american secret military module. I hope it isn't damaged.
Robert Hospodar well strictly speaking, Russia also has part of the International Space Station as well. So it's not strictly 'our own' station.. more a collaborative effort from all of the world wide space agencies.
@@roberthospodar4019 Sorry. No change. The first module of ISS is Russian's Zarya and another is Zvezda. All docking is dependent on the rusian technology. Several time a year Soyuz, several time a year Progress.
C'mon TARS!!
FrenZie LovE tARs LoVe
*Insert Interstellar theme*
i was certain that i would find an IS reference here lol.... just had to scroll
Lol "Imperfect contact"
I just passed out from the G's
This is my favorite channel on UA-cam. Thank you
den Ouglehoffer same bro
This was amazing story i had no idea and how heroic of the Russian to command the British to escape and save himself while he tried to slow the resupply vessel or stop /or minimize the disaster.
If you'd been my physics teacher at school I might have studied a bit harder. Great work again. Nearly everything I know about this kind of thing I learnt in my years after my 'education' ended.
Your education should never end. That’s not really what school should be about. Ideally it ought to be about providing basics and tools to educate yourself. You can make the most of it or make the least of it, just as you can do the same after you leave. It isn’t a shame that most people learn more after they graduate. That’s how it is supposed to work! You should spend your entire life learning new information if you do it right.
so good video, thank you!
Outstanding videos. Uniquely informative.
Brilliant video. I'd never heard about that before. That must have been pretty terrifying especially working in the dark and probably not speaking much Russian either. Love your videos and can't wait for the next one. Great job.
As far as I know, all astronauts are taught to speak fluent Russian.
Very informative! 👌
I'm fairly new to your channel, but every video I have viewed has been extremely interesting and informative, thank you Curious Droid!
Very good and informative video as always. A lot of research must go into these videos every time. I really appreciate your work and way of presenting! High Quality! Many thanks!!
Great vid Paul. I'm happy to be a patreon.
Excellent video, Excellent music, Excellent shirt!
This is the best explanation of this incident. Great video. Curious droid is youtube's absolute best.
Never knew this... Love this channel, keep up the awesome work!
Paul, I discovered your channel through Vintage Space. You do great work, and your videos and topics are always interesting. Keep up the good work!
Why i find your videos so relaxing?
Absolutely fascinating. Your vids are always top notch!
Another VERY fine video. Thanks for posting it!
I remember watching Mir in the sky. It was amazing.
very nicely narrated ....👍
nice video as always ! your voicie is calm and pleasant to hear, and it is so interesting to learn small details i'd never thougt i'd ask ! keep up the good work please !
That was brilliant, thank you for making such an interesting video
I can completely relate to these astronauts on the same level, I once misdocked My iPhone onto my desktop charger stand. Apple we have a problem...
This is incredible....
Thanks for this truly appreciated it
An excellent and I think very informative and well put-together video, thank you so much. It's nice to see a real video about real things now and then.
Thanks for warning us about the shirt!
When I see this footage I cannot deny the similarities in the movie Gravity, I'm sure this event has a big inspiration to it.
I completely forgotten about this before Mir was de-orbited. Great piece, Sir!
Thanks for this and your other videos. Very educational one. Truly Thanks
Can you do a video about the X-37B and Spacex?
Lets keep it Retro! Pun intended!
too many videos about spacex around. pls do the X37b pls
William Brightwell l
William, there are millions of videos about those. Most of them made by Musk himself.
Maloy wrong. there is just a single one that was made by elon. And he just edited some parts of it. he didnt even do the main work.
KSP: Never dock without the docking port alignment indicator :)
CD thank you for being a part of my life. I enjoy all of your cast!
Thank you Mr. Droid for another superb video, haven't seen a bad one yet!
0:25 Glorious picture
gotta make a film out of this, this stuff is wild.
I agree wholeheartedly, I'd say they could even get an entire TV series out of this story, along with other related stories. Spectacular stuff!
As usual, absolutely awesome docco. Thanks.
What a great program, Im going to subscribe this time.
7:36 - correction - Mir didn't have power to fire the engines. Foales calculations were the commander, Tsibilyev who fired the engines on the docked Soyuz.
VERY well informed!!!
@@JamesOberg Thank you Sir! A honour from someone such as yourself! I've read several books on this incident including the amazing 'Dragonfly: NASA and the Crisis Aboard Mir'.
What Foale and Tsibilyev did was impressive and a real indication of "the right stuff".
Does anyone remember the joke at that time, "WARNING! Objects in the MIR may be closer than they appear!"
This, of course, a reference to the warnings inscribed in the side mirrors of cars due to their curved magnifying effect (WARNING! Objects in the MIRROR may be closer than they appear).
dave sherep Dave’s Gay!
Another Great vid. YESSS Finally found a brilliant channel with stuff on that I like .well presented looks like I'm going to be busy going through all the vids for the next few weeks big thumbs up from me.
Love your videos. There's nothing better on YT when it comes to space!
This incident and the Apollo 13 incident are definitely the most hair-raising ones to date. I was unsettled hearing about this as a space-interested kid, and I was even more surprised when I read a detailed rundown of the whole case years later. Scary, scary stuff. It's great that things largelly turned out well and the crew showed a lot of resourcefulness, but this could have almost turned into a disaster. With the rotation issue caused by the collission, I have to wonder how Foale and his fellow crewmates felt when they looked outside. Must have been slightly dizzying, even with a slow rotation.
If you would of wore a patterned tie, you'd look like an Acid Test/Optical Illusion lol
Mister Howdy if you wore a sandwich you'd look like an idiot sandwich
*If you would have worn.
Since the first time I heard about this incident I wanted to know more about it but I didnt find too much info. Thanks! Great video as always.
@curiousdroid, your videos are very informative. 2 thumbs up for that...
4:40 is really really crazy, how can they even try that kind of thing? I think russians and many more veteran countries tend to oversee themselves on things they achieved greatly. This, however, leads to disasters most of the times. As crazy as they get, they are cool
4 people mistook the thumbs down for thumbs up... Should have gone to specsavers
fulanitoflyer nice :)
There's no "up" in space ;)
Joe Black yeah but we're on the flat earth where there certainly is an up.. down.. under.. and edges
@@fulanitoflyer lmao good one
this channel is the best for a Space fan ; thank you
Another fantastic video. Well done.
Objects in the MIR may be closer than they appear
I'll remember this every time I look in my car mirrors... #cantunsee
Curious Droid: You are talking about dissolution of USSR, but the clips played are from 1989 revolution in Czech Republic.
The Czech Republic was part of the USSR so technically right
@@MrJimheeren No, it wasn't. Czechoslovakia, as it was called at the time, was never part of the USSR.
@@MrJimheeren it was from the eastern bloc not russia
...and the following pictures are from Hungary the same year.
This was a beautifully detailed and well-explained video, I really enjoyed it. I knew the Mir had a major collision, but didn't know the extent of the damage and the aftermath until now.
Another awesome vid Paul thanks
Thank you, merci , Спасибо, Мерси, 谢谢，
Great vids. My only advice is change the name of the show to uncle fester science channel
HAHAHA, that was a good one! :D
More like Shirts On Acid Show
LOL !
The music and narration, this is the best channel!
Wow another really interesting episode. Loved it! Music was really good too!
You already wore that shirt in your July 4, 2017 video. It was painful enough seeing it once already. Otherwise an excellent video.
So, you remember every shirt in every video... That's not weird at all o_o;
The KSP nightmare made real.
LMAO very accurate. It's not that I "succeed" in my missions, it's that I fail so many times that completing a mission becomes a matter of the fact that success is never a %0 chance.
ive been using a whiteboard and trig for 3 years now in ksp. if you can do the math and plan before a mission your success rate shall be no less than 97% or greater
fantastic channel son much information and interest in such short videos thanks
Another stunningly superb video!
They did a better job than Skylab, which crashed into Western Australia.
Steve Cheetah Didn't Skylab have only 3 missions??
One was just to repair the broken the solar panels
One where the crew had a mutiny
And the last one was the only succesfoul one
All the Skylab missions were successful. The first crew had the job of rescuing the space station, which they did in the first few days. They then spent the rest of the month carrying out the scientific research that had originally been intended. They spent 28 days in space, a record at the time. The second crew carried out some further repairs to improve the sun shade deployed by the first crew and spent 59 days in space doing research - another record. The third crew spent 84 days in space and were the most productive of all the crews,. It was them who had the "mutiny", although they never saw it that way. What actually happened was that they decided to take one day off from following their programme list of tasks and "do their own thing". They actually continued working - although work based on what they wanted to do rather than based on a list of tasks sent up from Houston.
Skylab had no manouevring thrusters nor did it have a booster rocket to allow its orbit to be changed. As a result, NASA had very limited control over it once the last crew left.
It was intended to use the visiting Space Shuttle to boost Skylab's orbit, but delays in building the shuttle meant it launched two years too late.
ahh the 90's, when the USSR broke up the fear was that all that Soviet brain power would get sucked away by America's Enemies. Almost as if it was like Germany, where everyone scrambled to find the engineers and scientists.
AWESOME vid! Really enjoyed.
excellent work Paul
Instead of burning Mir, did they have enough thruster power to just send it off into the vastness of space ?
Mir was heavy and it only had station keeping thrusters, so not crazy amounts of fuel and not very strong, they would have been able to get it into a higher orbit but it wouldn't ever be able to leave the Earth's sphere of influence. Leaving it in space it would be a liability because there is still some tiny amount of air which slows it down so it would deorbit in an uncontrolled way which means it could land on a city and that is dangerous. They made sure that it hit the atmosphere over the pacific because the ocean is very big and the fish dont complain as much as people do.
BUt it would be interesthing if they send some rocket to push it in outer space..since 2002 now would probably past Pluto
Simple answer - no. And by then Mir really was in such a state that it was not really possible to continue living in it. Also, Russia was now a major player ion the ISS so had to divert its resources to that project.
Can't afford to give aliens or technology
that would require a shit ton of extra propellant
I look at my recent notifications:
"Hey, there are no views on this video! I can finally be the first!"
Clicks on the video
3,000 views :/
Thank you for the informative video. ❤❤
Love this channel!
Nice video, thanks as always! But please, PLEASE - how hard it is for video author to go to Google translate, select Russian language and use text-to-speech to hear, how words are properly pronounced? I mean - my ears almost started to bleed throughout the video when you called MIR “Miaa” - russian language is very ‘harsh’ and there is almost no soft endings of the words - so it’s pronounced “mirr” (sounds exactly like beginning of word “MIRacle”) - not soft “miaa”, but “MIR”.
That's his Southern English accent showing through. Many English accents don't put a lot of emphasis on the "rrrrr" sound of the letter "R".
You're woking with native speaker now? Props! That's awesome!
Aha Woking, a town in Surrey famously destroyed by some naughty Martians.
EricIrl no one would have believed that woking was worth anything.
I can imagine Wells' Martians observing earth through their mighty telescopes and coming to the conclusion that Woking must be destroyed.
Last time i was this early us could send people to orbit
GR8 Video, much info! Thanks
Sir you are Awesome and Your Videos are the Best! keep coming
background music too loud.
Get a better sound card
Give him money for a better sound card. So easy to tell "Get". Why don't you "Give". Be better for each other and we won't go extinct.
MIMALECKIPL Dont worry. With the world population growth rate we have now, its gonna take quite a bit more than that
All it takes is to push a button. And such attitudes as yours will lead to such mess that'll eventually cause someone to launch nukes.
Atleast the world wouldnt be so overpopulated
Soviet space program is best program
Mikhail Gorbachev Gorbachev best Soviet leader
Satyam Patel disagree Stalin was (Gorbachev killed the Soviet union)
fulanitoflyer Stalin was the worst Soviet leader being an egotistical maniac who murdered tens of millions of Soviets through purges (even the original Bolsheviks and if Lenin). Not to mention Stalin removed all democratic principles away from the Soviet Union destroyed many civil liberties turning it into an oligarchy. When Stalin dies the communist party condemns Stalin starting with Khrushchev.
Satyam Patel no Stalin no Soviet union after 1945..... Simple as that. (Europe would be controlled from new Germania too)
NO the Prussian people fought for it not Stalin he was just an asshole.
Amazing Video as always !!!
Good job. Impressed.
Very enjoyable and informative video . Thanks!
This is my favorite UA-cam channel.
Excellent informative video and great narration.
Amazing work together.