A Five-Minute Conversation With The Average Voter?
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2024
- A number of people who voted in the recent by election were interviewed by Times Radio and what they had to say explains why politics is in much a mess. Misinformed opinions on Brexit, the NHS and immigration.
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Not liking the French is ok, I am French. But not liking the French won’t get you a dentist appointment faster.
Well said!
Brilliant... but that wasn't on the side of that red bus...😀😀😀
French are great, we just have some poor areas in the UK who are in denial about why they have it so bad.
I love the French as a Dutch man, Parisians not so much, but the French themselfes are so smart, classy and well manered
The migrants don't seem to like France either, by the rate they are are leaving Calais.
As the great Nye Bevan said, "The genius of the Tories is to convince people to vote against their own interests. " Some of these people shouldn't be let out alone.
His comparison between tories and vermin was also on the nose
@@bestbehave That's unfair on vermin, sir
Spot on my friend, they have been brain washed by Rupert Murdoch, Just like America, this country is being taken over by right wing fascists. And they don't even recognise it, they have been hypnotised by the small boats. 😂😂😂.....
If you lie often enough and for long enough, people will believe it. This strategy more often than not works, and the Tories and right wing are fully aware of this.
Yes Nye Bevan said there will always be a NHS if the people fight to retain it
Notice the word fight
Bevan knew then that there would be politicians Tories the elite who would destroy it for their own financial gain.
Boy was Bevan 100% spot on.
Yet the citizens will give their vote to Tories and Reform the very people who are destroying our public services and then complain our services are not there.
Do they not think what is going to happen to the future life and living of their own children and grand children? Not to forget their own quality quantity of living
Oh an astounding percentage of citizens are taking away decreasing their own lifestyle themselves. If not that have been somehow brain washed hooked lined and sinkered by our corrupt politicians, media and press. What a gravely sad state it is indeed.
I am German who used to live in the UK. I have a British wife, and I have always been an Anglophile. Somehow Brexit felt personal, like the country I loved just flicked two fingers at me. Listening to this man who says he hates the French (and most certainly us Germans as well) confirms for me what Brexit was really about for many. It is sad.
The funny (or not so funny) thing about it is that while Europeans left the UK en masse, the immigration from countries such as Afghanistan and India has massively increased. I am sure that gentleman in the video will be absolutely delighted about that.
Not sure. Germans are the only continentals the English do not despise (and actually fear).
So agree with u. The voted to remove white pple of similar religion to allow the pple they don't like in. Please remember, however, Scotland and NI voted to remain.
People were lied to, the vast majority of people in the UK aren't racist (I hope). Lot's of people here regret voting to leave, but there will always be a small minority with too much pride to admit it, despite all the evidence. The whole situation is an embarrasment for the UK. Hope you don't hate us!
Populism is never the smartest move, always the easiest one.
Thank
@@patbaker2199nobody was just lied to
They were fed both lies and the truth, but being exceptionally stupid they believed the lies, so... I dunno, I for one am happy the UK is not in the EU anymore
Former Irish ambassador to the UK, Bobby McDonagh, has described the British electorate as 'infantilised'. His insulting of infants will not be forgotten
Don’t be childish 🤣
The average Brit voter is now at the level of the average US one.
Part of the problem is that US schools are funded by property tax. So deprived areas stay uninformed and uneducated. Rural areas also suffer because property in the countryside is worth less than urban areas.
Not quite, but well on their way. The republicans are still better at dumbing down because they have brilliantly thrown religion into the mix.
@@usainengland and they found a way to mate with vegetables
@stephenconway2468...and by design.
NO the average Trump supporter.
This is why political education should be mandatory in schools.
and why only people who complete political education should be allowed to vote.
Be careful what you wish for, imagine the tories having control of that since 2010. Of course, it is hard to imagine it being worse😀
Listening to some of these people, I'd settle for some sort of basic education never mind the more advanced specifics.
Yeah but can you imagine the Tories setting the curriculum?
Civics is a compulsory class for schoolchildren in Germany and France.
The immigrants, homeless, disabled, unemployed etc are great scapegoats to divert from from the tories incompetence and self serving actions!!
"We voted for someone with a track record of not giving a shit about us, and were surprised when they continued to not give a shit about us".
Yep. That's tory voters for ya.
Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity
Interviewing Brexit voters?
No it's not.
My PE teacher said it was the definition of stupidity, which I think also applies
Exactly right
If at first you don't succeed, try, try and try again - Robert the Bruce.
Immigrants complaining about immigration and voting for the party that created the small boat problem. Is one hell of an oxymoron
no moron, there is no oxygen in it.
Omfg ! We're doomed. Idiots.
Look at the Conservative Party.Rishi Sunak,Kemi Badenoch,Priti Patel,Suella Braverman,James Cleverly,all the sons and daughters of immigrants,and very anti immigration.Their parents would have suffered racist abuse when they came to the UK,not just at the hands of far right groups like the National Front,but from ordinary members of the public.Look at Ben Habib.A Pakistani born immigrant who’s REFORM UK.An anti immigration group.Work that out!
Sunak,Patel,Badenoch,Cleverly,Braverman,all the sons and daughters of immigrants,Brexiteers and very right wing.Ben Habib,a Pakistani born immigrant and a member of REFORM UK and former UKIP member,both anti immigrant groups.WORK THAT OUT!
Sunak,Badenoch,Patel,Cleverly,Braverman,all the sons and daughters of immigrants,all Brexiteers and very right wing.Ben Habib,a Pakistani born immigrant,a former UKIP,now REFORM UK member,both anti immigration groups.FIGURE THAT OUT!
This is too painful to listen to.
"Everything is awful, but lets blame the party that hasnt been in power for 14 years"
At the time of the vote, I was going to vote Leave, simply because I was more patriotic when I was younger. I thought that we should be more in control of our own laws and I didn't want us to switch to the Euro.
All I did, upcoming to the day, was watch a few videos on UA-cam by economists, socialists, environmentalists, when I learned all about what the EU actually was and how it is benefitting our country. The biggest revelation was discovering how much money they designated to Cornwall and other such areas ignored by London. The next biggest revelation that changed my mind to vote Remain, was listening to one economist/professor's speech explaining THE BASIC MATH. If Brexit was to happen, it would be devastating to us in the short-term and will only get better (probably) within the next 50 years... Simply because we were so tied up in the EU it would take many years to heal from breaking from it. Basically, we just started reaping the benefits of being in the EU since 2000 as it took all these years from when we joined for those benefits to bloom.
So... I didn't want to vote for something that would not only ruin my life in this country, but would also ruin my children's lives. Perhaps my grandchildren will see better days... But perhaps not. The risk was too high.
Again, all I did was a little bit of research. One good speech by a person who KNOWS how the economy works. If we only listened to our experts more... Instead of these celebrity politicians.
If you were young at the time, you were relatively freshly out of school.
Flabbergasting to me that you could have been in school recently and not know at least in rough terms what the EU is..while living in an EU member state..
Why patriotism is stupid:
Fair play for the honesty. And you’d have been right about the Euro, though I never thought Britain would join it anyway, too much to be lost by the wealthy classes. The referendum itself - what leave really meant - was too loosely defined, and has led to the modern morass - “this isn’t the Brexit I voted for” - where a lot of leave voters thought they were voting for a Norway type deal, while others thought they could just forget about Europe entirely but still retire to Benidorm, and yet more just wanted to get immigrants out. But of course it was loosely defined deliberately, just so these different groups could all vote against their own interests.
@PradedaCech I was actually in my late twenties and not once in my school did we ever have any education on politics. For years I didn't have access to a TV of my own so I never kept up with the news either. I just got on with life not ever knowing much about the way the country is run, I just knew we got a lot of food from the E.U. and I didn't want us to adopt the Euro pretty much on aesthetic reasons. Didn't care much, it was bigger things for bigger people to sort out.
Of course once the vote approached and by then I had a smart phone, I could actually look into what it was all about and that was when I started caring about the bigger picture. Ever since I have been in despair at what is going on and all it took was a little education. It should be taught in schools. I talk to my children about politics and ethics, about current events, because it's so easy to put your head down and knuckle on with the daily grind, not having any idea of the cogs turning above.
UK media has a lot to answer for.
Oh yes. If we could vote them out...
This is what decades of privatizations, lack of proper funding (especially for education and healthcare) and the slow but intentional degradation of social services and social programs, coupled with a lack of accountability, shady election practices gives you...
Combine that with a rampant chauvinism (nationalism), an apathy and disinterest in politics and a private US style corporate media (GB news) which relentlessly pushes the now uninformed gaslighted masses that have become the british public to vote against their economic interests and this right here is what you have.
The Torries AND Labour (starting in the late 90s) but especially the Torries have made the destruction of their welfare state a national pastime in the political arena, and yet the british public rewarded them every time with reelection...
These people are too far gone, let that be a lesson for all of us on the mainland...
Thsts for sure,💯%,correct
Sure do,👍
UK media answers to their owners - and the owners are pleased.
That first woman... good lord. The pause before sheepishly admitting she voted Tory... She KNOWS she's a turkey who votes for Christmas. She fucking KNOWS. But she does it anyway...
We can blame politicians all we like and, in most cases, it is appropriate to do so. But the people who KNOW the damage the Tories are doing and yet continue to vote for them regardless... They are equally culpable for the shitshow we are living through.
They are even more culpable, because without their vote the Tory idiots won't even have a chance for their shenanigans.
YES.
So labour are the answer 😂
@@williamsulman2646 They are not the only answer, but they are the answer most likely to have any chance of succeeding against the Tory English.
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 I'm not interested in just keeping the torries out. They are both the same. I do manual labour. So why would I vote for Labour?
A woman went on LBC and said she won’t vote for Stammer because he’s too clean, hence has no charisma or personality like Boris!! That’s what we’re dealing with!! Nothing surprises me anymore in politics!!
And by the way Moggy thinks the two by-election lost wasn’t soo bad for the Tories, because if Reform UK voters had opted to vote for the Tories they would’ve won!!
Almost 80% of our media is right wing so the masses will follow that narrative
These people are why we are in the mess we are in. There is no hope I’m afraid.
I now understand how Peter Bone managed to be the MP for Wellingborough for 18 years.
And his floozy. 😂
Yup morons on full display here
@@chatham43Are your piles playing up again?
@@chatham43 No! Constantly voting for a Conservative when they constantly f*ck up the country shows absolute stupidity!
Ps I am a truck driver so hardly "Middle Class"
😂😂😂
You can see why the UK is knackered... ..
Knackered by their own population. EU just rolling their eyes
You're being flattering....
More like completely €*☆£*d!
@@chatham43 What does that even mean Chatty?
weird guy@@chatham43
The UK is knackered which is why the three colonies it has left, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland want the feck out. We are getting dragged down into the mire with the rest.
Unfortunately the model we call democracy is not democracy at all. Basically the Tory press tells people what to think and they think it.
Rupert Murdoch has a *lot* of power in the UK. He's a clear and present danger to our non-functioning democracy.
Omg, 1st lady in and I’m already laughing. Wants a new hospital but voted Tory. Will she ever learn. 😂
Short answer: No. The good news is if she keeps voting that way she won’t be around to do it much longer.
Labour didn’t do much either we certainly something outside this two party same as each other choice.
@@moonbaby6134 Nah, when Labour was last in the NHS was far better looked after, better funded, and better protected. It wasn't perfect and neither were Labour, but it was a damn sight better than now... Third option? Reform. Thank god they've got no chance, bunch of failed Tories who've already explicitly stated the solution to NHS problems is private companies.
Merging Labour with the Conservatives overlooks Labour's commitment to distinct policies under Keir Starmer's leadership. Labour's agenda includes promoting economic stability without compromising on sound finances, establishing a publicly owned clean energy company, ensuring the NHS has the resources to improve service, putting more police on the streets for safer communities, and breaking down barriers to opportunity through education and childcare reforms. These policies aim to address key issues directly affecting the British people, distinguishing Labour's approach from the Conservatives.
The Tories "employed" Cameron as their Tory Blair, so what happened? In 2010 the UK had the highest rated by the UN healthcare system in the World, the highest education standards in the World, even after the US banking crash (the second biggest economic collapse since the Wall Street Crash) higher real term wages by more than a 6th. We had the most efficient infrastructure building industry on Earth too. We had [massively] lower taxation, a debt level of about 1/4 of today. So what went wrong? What, in 2010, changed this country? Blair doubled GDP by 2009 on top of lowering the debt and lowering taxes, so what happened in 2010? Blair's government saw the 2nd largest increase in personal wealth among the working and middle classes in Britain, so what happened in 2010 to reverse that?
@@ozzie2612only problem with Starmer is his flip flopping. What the Americans call a ‘ paper bag’.
She blamed the devil for her problems, then voted for him… struth!
*Strewth*
Bill Burr once said: you know how an average person is stupid - now think of the fact that half of the population is even stupider!
With your jock flag who did you vote for?
@@williamsulman2646Probably same as you with your union joke.
@GG-ml3vr my flag Is the st Georges mate I dunno what you're talking about. Why are the Scots nats the only ones who are allowed to be patriotic. Never used to be like that on dole day.
She voted for the arse kicking party and was surprised she got her arse kicked.
Now she likes it
the asian couple were the funniest, as a part middle easterner myself it's always extra funny when you see a colored voting nazis. It's an extra level of stoopid.
arse kicking party kicking arse woud be an improvement because they delivered what was promised.
Max this is my constituency and I truly despair. Im 76 and voted tactically to get this awful awful shower out if our town.
But with these residents Im baffled. Do they not remember back in the noughties we never had Food Banks. Even after the war in the 50s ,food banks were unheard of. Thats just for starters. NHS was never ever this bad. And nhs dentists or lack of is completely tory made. Money for the masses has been spaffed up the wall and nobody is held to account. What a crooked government we have. My fellow constituents just cannot see it can they.???
They don't like foreigners but are quite happy with a royal family of Greek and German ancestry.
This is exactly why the EU won’t be able to seriously consider about letting the UK rejoin
Yes, EU won't fall for the same trick twice
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@russcattell955i I want to rejoin, but frankly, the only way to get back in permanently is to tie ourselves so deeply with the eu that leaving again would be impossible. We need to rejoin even if we lose the pound, so it's a loss I'm prepared for
I disagree, I think the economic benefits would mean they would let us in. They aren't stupid and I think would like us back in because we did actually play a big part in formulating laws and providing stability.
I do think it can only happen when there is a next big treaty though, which won't be for sure some time and will only be done once the whole population realises we need our biggest and nearest trading partners for our economy to grow, just like happened before we joined in the 70s.
@@mattpotter8725 As an EU citizen yer dreaming mate. Britain's economy is in a long-term decline and is of no real benefit to the rest of the bloc. The myth of British Economic Exceptionalism was debunked by the fact the impact of Brexit turned out to be a rounding error for every other economy - you are the only ones who suffered. And we've sat and watched as you all scream and insult everybody else, negotiate in bad faith, tell lies about the EU over the last decade - and that's after all the decades before of being a source of INSTABILITY, foot-dragging, factionalism and game-playing when you were members. Not to mention your decades-long devotion to the siren-call of lunatic right-wing neo-liberal voodoonomics. I'm afraid you are out, nobody misses you, and you will almost certainly be staying out for a generation or two at least.
There isn't anything wrong with the Euro. It's brilliant to travel but also in fairness to the ECB they have managed the financial stability in the face of all the negative press over the last 15 years since the financial crash.
The power of propaganda. There's a reason why billionaires buy newspapers.
billionaires own newspapers, mugs buy them.
@@bumblingborisbuffoon6259 that's probably what @AdamTaylor-tw2vm implied. But, you are correct.
Not just newspapers - GBNews & Talk TV
Or news sources, see Musk and Trump.
Unfortunately, you cannot blame the media for the willful ignorance and stupidity of the average person. That's on them alone.
And of course they all want more hospitals, police, .... - but getting tax reductions at the same time, of course.
As an American, I never knew the British were so absolutely clueless about the world. And they still live in ‘exceptionalism land.’
It’s has a lot to do with inbreeding because only an island of peasants with a very small gene pool would vote Brexit
He’s deliberately selected a handful of people who gave the most ridiculous answers in a bid to make it look that way but that is not the reality. The maker of this video very much has his own agenda. I have heard perfectly legitimate reasons for leaving and equally valid arguments for remaining. I was personally in favour of remain, but I am not also not so detached from reality that I’d pretend not to understand how Brexit happened. In the area where I live, I personally think that a lot of people were sick of the European criminals that have turned the area into a complete cesspool and naively believed that voting for Brexit would solve this issue (which was a case of bolting the stable door after the horse had bolted). Although Maxi boy seems to think that anyone who isn’t chuffed about living next door to a Romanian knocking shop/ drug den which regularly gets raided by the police at 6am must simply be a card carrying member of the Nazi party. 🙄
As an American you can't really point your finger.
@@chatham43 Americans aren't polite. 😂
@@SirAntoniousBlock Well, even the coppers insist on calling you sir or m'aam while they throw you to the ground and affix the handcuffs. Very polite indeed.
The average intelligence of ordinary people is simply staggering. People are so ignorant and actually vote against their own interests. Brexit being the perfect example. If it wasn't for the ignorant and stupid, the Tories would never win power.
Its the ignorant voting for the ignorant!
The American comedian George Carlin put it succinctly: think about how stupid the average person is. That means half the population is even more stupid.
The average intelligence is 100, so 50% of the population has an IQ under 100. Interestingly it is those whose IQs are in the bottom 50% who vote conservative. It's always been so.
Tje paradox is: the main threat against democracy often is democracy.
Ignorance is bliss and these average voters represent a big proportion of the UK society nowadays
Best Matrix quote and certainly true. People just don't inform themselves.
Too much nostalgic television 📺 Heartbeat, LOTSW,….
Most people don't really think about or follow politics. The number of times I've heard: "They're all the same", makes me despair. The last labour government made a real difference to ordinary people's lives. It doesn't have to be like this.
I know they say that the love of money is the root of all evil - but bigotry and ignorance aren’t that far behind.
@@chatham43 I pretty much think they’re all a shower.
The mindset is stuck on a loop .
They grew up voting Conservative and will die voting Conservative.
They are concerned about immigration, wasn't Brexit supposed to end immigration? Joining the dots not their strong point .
In the 60's it was the Caribbean immigrants to blame for everything, in the 70's we just needed to get rid of the Unions and everything would be fine, in the 80's everything was the fault of Labour councils, in the 90's it was ERM and the Euro to blame, in the 2010's it was the EU and Labour spending to stop our whole economy collapsing due the USA financial crash. Now it is the war in Ukraine, covid, a few people in boats, the EU, poor people wanting enough money to live on. Whenever the Tories "sort" out these problems nothing gets better only worse, we now told that we have to vote Tory because they are the only Party that correct the problems of the last 14 years. They will manage this by cutting public services to give very wealthy people tax cuts in the vain hope that wealthy people will sort out all the problems and not spend it on themselves. The Tory manifesto!
As I say, social and emotional morons.
I grew up voting labour actually and for that reason I'm never going to vote for them again!
@@williamsulman2646 You are blaming Labour for getting old, you were not supposed to vote until you were 18 or 21 if a bit older. It is also important to reflect that since 1945, the Conservatives have been in power far more than Labour and the Tories have always acted in the short term which culminated in Bodybags Johnson lying on a daily basis.
Die hard tory ignorance, hideing in their bunker pretending it will all be alright,,,,Sad!
Max you are 100% correct! My local hospital is so understaffed that it has had to close 2 wards and has a shortage of consultants in Cardiology and Imaging. Our care home is so understaffed that some carers are doing double shifts 😢
As a Pole I'm surprised no one mentions us as the reason. 😂
Public resentment in England against the Poles, as "job stealers", "NHS cloggers" came as a surprise to me as part of the explanation of the 2016 vote (I am French ). I thought Poles, beside being "white", Christian, etc were an example of well integrated immigration, contributing to the UK economy, setting up their own businesses.
That poor lady does not understand that labour is more likely to build hospitals than Conservatives.
PFI??
Hospitals still got built...
@@user-ol3xe5fz4uyou mean PFI as introduced to the UK by John Major, the Tory PM? That PFI?
@@trapsman649640? How many?
"I don't know (why I voted Tory) - I just did". Words fail.
It just shows how thick our public is
I don’t think this is the general public. This is the Tory voting public of a certain age.
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn I know extremely smart people who are social and emotional morons.
Gullible
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn There is no normal but there are those who shall we say are very focused thinkers to the exclusion of almost everything else.
“Let’s have literacy tests to see if they can vote just like they used to in the Deep South in the USA.”
You people are so conceited.
Do people care about the truth? Do any of these people care about the future for their children, grandchildren, the vulnerable and the destitute? This is not just a deficit of thinking skills; it is a serious failure of compassion.
Jim Hacker quote from "Yes prime minister" : "ordinary people are stupid"... Sadly true...
A lot of Tory voters can’t bring themselves to vote for anyone else even when the ship is sinking.
Because it would mean having to admit that you were wrong. And we all know about stupidity, and being stubborn. They would rather die than admit making a mistake voting Tory before. "I have always voted Tory and that's that"! The level of contrition required to reverse this attitude, is only to be found in Cory or EastEnders. As it would require the self reflective and awareness qualities, that such people are not known for.
Because they’re the least worst option. We all know the tories are shitty leftists, but they’re slightly less bad than Labour. I will say though that Keir isn’t that bad and is doing a lot to make Labour more palatable.
@@andrewharris3900 not sure about that...besides there are also other parties....overall it also has to do sth with the "english" society and non-analysed history
@@andrewharris3900 Man, I wish i could have some of whatever it is you're smoking. Only for a bit though, i don't want to damage my brain and end up like a gullible mouth-piece of the tory party, like you.
You also need more doctors, nurses, support staff, social care (remember Johnson’s worthless words?). 14 years of destruction by the Tories, still not enough for some it seems. Incredible
You mean replacing those in the professions that had to leave because of Brexit?
NHS is a monopoly employer that drives down doctor’s wages, doctors get paid way more in Oz or the US and so British doctors emigrate there. We then need to import them from the third world. If we just got rid of the NHS (or at least did a public private model like Oz) then maybe we would be able to hold on to our own doctors.
Goldfish syndrome, they cannot remember what they did yesterday. 50% of people cannot function unless they are told what to do .
They should do well under a Labour government then
@@GWJUK Well they have surely done badly under this one ..
@@shaunyweaver1144 yep. Looking forward to Starmer’s fuck ups. They’re all a disaster.
I’ve got no one to vote for.
Well done Max for combing through this swamp everyday and thank you for this channel. You do a great and useful job.
In the last year of EU Membership 8 of the poorest 10 regions in the EU were in the UK. All of them received EU funding. That is levelling up - not some worthless dribble from Johnson.
The ignorance here is overwhelming.
@@grahamclutterbuck583 Yes, deliberately misinformed by the UK media.
I told a keen Brexiteer that EU funding went to poor parts of the UK and he said that he simply didn’t want anyone getting help using his money.
Cornwall was (still is) one of those regions, received hundreds of millions in EU funding, VOTED LEAVE and then were surprised when BoJo the Clown didn’t replace the funding they’d lost. The UK returned £3.5 million in funding for children in poverty because they never spent it, but these imbeciles believed that the Tories would take care of them.
It beggars belief.
There's never been any such thing as "EU funding" the EU produces nothing.
You mean the money we paid to the EU of which they took 30% then gave us back 70% and told us how and where we could spend what was left.
Most of which was spent on administration and vanity projects that subsequently failed.
I think it was Joseph De Maistre who said "Every country gets the government it deserves", this video proves he was right.
I disagree. Governments do not translate the will of the people, even in the most democratic societies. Plus, in many countries, people don't even have a real say who governs them, let alone being heard/represented by the government. Do North Koreans deserve to be oppressed?
I disagree. Our voting system is not conducive to proper democracy.
It’s hard listening to these people 😩😩😩
And that is the reason why we are in this mess - the thick population that willingly gets their opinions fed to them by the Daily Mail and Express.
The other relevant quote would be courtesy of the late George Carlin:
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
Voting conservative is snob value, by people who think they are better than their neighbours.
8:21 - There's a queue of dentists waiting to migrate from Britain to Australia.
One has to question the ability to look critically at a situation and to asses the quality of the information they are receiving.
'I don't like foreigners'. The feeling is mutual when it comes to the likes of him.
The first lady interviewed was priceless. It doesn't matter who gets in they don't do anything, we're in a right mess, we need more hospitals and everything else. Who did you vote for...Conservatives.
So who exactly do I vote for if I want something different. She's got a point because I'm not voting for labour because I lived under their rule already and it was terrible
@@williamsulman2646 it wasn't that bad mate. Things were quite good under Blair.
@sfactory8253 well it was for me thanks. Now my situation is better so you're accidotal evidence is worth no more than mine.
@@williamsulman2646 My political experience begins with Heath and Wilson onwards, I've only ever experienced bad times under the Tories who are now so incompetent corrupt and out of control, I would rather vote Screaming Lord Sutch in because they need to be replaced.
@trevellyanblack4101 also by what you stated then you are a pensioner. Of course you want labour to pump yet more money into our ridiculous public services that don't work at all anymore because consecutive government have let millions of extra people into our welfare state 🙃 obviously you want people my age to have to pay the ridiculous amounts of tax we have to then you get you're nice easy retirement.
Boomers have so much to answer for. You had everything and you tell us we buy too many coffees coz that will buy me a house where I grew up 🤣
This is a profound challenge to Western Democracies based on universal suffrage.
Populism succeeds because it gives people who are too un-educated (or just too thick or too lazy) simplistic answers to very complex questions.
The story whereby “things go badly in this country because we have too many foreigners” might be wrong and false on 1,000 levels, but it requires a 1-digit IQ to be processed and speedily agreed with - especially if you are a citizen with a pre-existing sense of xenophobia and superiority.
Even the fact that un-educated/thick/lazy people do understand pain is not sufficient - because they also need to appreciate “causality” between political choices and their pain.
This is a non-trivial problem.
But what is the answer?
Curtailing universal suffrage is inconceivable.
Educating people is also easier said than done.
That’s why populists like Trump and Boris Johnson did and do untold damage to our Democracy.
They say the young are to stupid to vote . Just look at this older generation 🙄
The young come from somewhere though. And are educated by this older generation you imply are stupid. There's a lot of things we are taught in school that are completely false and I just don't see enough people questioning what they are taught in school or their elders to examine what they believe for any real change to be possible.
I felt Max’s cry of anguish when the old woman said she voted Conservative.
It was a blood curdling cry.
Sorry - but în the first split second I read "Marx" !!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah if he was on a battle field the opposition would have been terrified 😂
Marxism; another bankrupt 19th century ideology.
There are lots of immigrants in my local hospital.
They work there!
I imagine there are also rather a lot of immigrants in your local hospital being treated for free too although most of them have never paid a penny in.
@@riche.6660
Yes, you did imagine it.
@@jasonfryer1413 🤡
Complaining you want things to change and then vote conservative… IT’S IN THE NAME!
Not all people who voted to leave hate foreigners, but all people who hate foreigners voted to leave.
None so blind as those that refuse to see!
We all know that most of the electorate are as thick as mince.
I'll point out that "most of the electorate" didn't vote tory in these by-elections. Remember Times radio is a right wing media outlet who specifically choose to platform these "anti foreigner" types because they want to make it look like a normal (and therefore acceptable) view.
I'd say a good third are in fact as thick as mince, another third can't be arsed to educate themselves on politics and may as well just throw a dart at the ballot paper, the rest at least make some effort😮
Which would explain 13 years of the Tories and the conviction that Labour is the spawn of the devil with absolutely no evidence except what they've been told to believe by the right wing press.
This video proves the shocking political ignorance of many people and it is oe of the reasons for the awful state this country is in
I think you hit the nail on the head, the media is not informing people. The media should be asking these questions and making it know to all the truth behind them. I voted for Brexit and I regret that very much. I think there is a majority of Brexit voters who feel the same. If there is a majority the government have a duty to consider a return. It is OUR decision - NOT the government's.
I know French people who speak better English than this lot. God help the UK.
Also there is russians in Moscow with a better command of the english language than jacob Rees mogg and in 2004 how the slavs was treated by the western they discovered the english classism tribalism, than they played online with them in 2016.. Like a Nigerian scammer modus operandi and the voters digest it...
Not just the French, from all over Europe. Many where English is their 3rd language.
Genuinely, a lot of mainland European natives speak better English than half of English people. It's embarrassing.
My parents were the same, they kept voting against my interest so I packed my bags and I left the country... Now in their old age are calling me back and I keep telling them I won't come back as they made their beds and now will have to lie in it
Glad you were able to leave, tired of boomers gaslighting millennials and gen-z and telling them to put up or shut up whilst they pull the ladder up behind them.
@@SpenceJS87 I'm a European Union citizen and that was my way out! If my country ever goes insane and think to go out I'll "take care" of those 2 votes I was talking about earlier... They won't destroy my life again, I won't let them, no matter what!
@@SpenceJS87 You catagorise people according to when they were born (which they had no choice over), now change boomer to Black millennial to Muslim and gen Z gay and we can all see how your mind "works".
@marilenaganea6578
Careful, don’t you want their assets after they’ve carked it?
@@Knappa22 I don't want anything from them... All I want is to stop them 🪛ing my life even further
Most of the time when I try to get a doctor's appointment I'm told that there aren't any available, but if I go to the surgery it's totally empty. So who is taking all these appointments.
At 77 years old I still have all my marbles unlike these interviewees who seem to have lost theirs decades ago. My parents were Conservative voters, even though my Dad was an engine driver on British Railways, and I'm sad to say they were also racists 😢 When I reached voting age (21 in those days) I voted for the Liberal party as Labour only ever came a distant third in our rural constituency. Having lived in an EU country since 2010 I've seen how much better life is here, even before Brexit. Thankfully my children (now 50 and 47) and their spouses hate the Tories and voted Remain in 2016.
@@chatham43good thing he is still out loose, we need sane people out there too, not just goons like you
@@LudwigVaanArthans It's a shame that scumbags are allowed to post here.
I moved to Spain because of these fools...
Me too, been enjoying European life since 2005. Watching members of the British public being interviewed is like those Creature Comforts episodes
The Tories have now given you expats the right to vote in UK elections. Please help us get rid of them.
@@chatham43 expand on your comment...I am genuinely interested...
Good for you mate!👍
@@chatham43Ah! Right on time, the tolling of the 🔔 end!
It’s so sad seeing these people, so ignorant and the answers they gave are so uninformed… like repeating what they hear, but they don’t actually know.
Not gonna lie Max, that was utterly painful to watch😅. I still hold on my hopes, that it is not an average sample, what I saw.
I believe, that you are one of the person, who can say “I am doing my maximum to inform people about politics and shady practices in it”. Thank you for sharing this with us 🙂.
Listened to this in the car and actually screamed at that first woman…
These people have lost the right to complain about governments.
Scotland! Please! For your own good! GET OUT NOW! Just go. Go quick!
Wales and Ireland too lol.
@@JohnSmith-oh9ux : Ireland? 🤷🏻♂️
@@Driver2616
Maybe Mr Smith meant Northern Ireland, I presume...
@@robertodimarino9761: yeah maybe. Strange…
I sold up in the UK and moved to France 8 years ago. The best decision I ever made. France and the French are fantastic.
The old saying 'the eloctorate gets the politicians they deserve' springs to mind.
the flaw with democracy is it assumes that people aren't stupid.
Love this, but I would replace stupid for gullible.
Indeed well said.
That flaw becomes a problem when you have an effectively two-party system where the ruling party has both the power and every incentive to keep people as uninformed and gullible as possible.
The flaws with certain democratic systems is they aren't democratic enough, if there were more people involved the better.
It's well known that within crowds IQ will reduce to accommodate the medium, likewise there is a "group knowledge" that dilutes outliers and this includes nutters and imbeciles, certain systems are not truly democratic because only a fraction (sometimes a small fraction) vote.
Yep democracy is the worst system, except for all the others.
Nothing like voting against your own interests. The average voter is so uninformed/misled that we are stuck in this never ending cycle of a two party state. PR is so desperately needed!
'PR is so desperately needed!' Voters struggle with a binary choice. Proportional representation would blow their brain.
@@eattherich9215 Some voters currently vote to keep a party out, PR gives the opportunity for people to vote a Party or candidate in.
Should the electorate have to do a basic test prior to being allowed to vote at this stage?
90% of UK is British born, 75% of NHS doctors are British born, therefore if you took a town of 10k British born and another town of 10k immigrants there would be 4x as many NHS doctors in the town of immigrants.
It's not hard. Immigration is good for NHS staffing.
People without a pot to piss in voting conservative. Go figure.
“My grandad borrowed a pair of shoes to go and vote Tory!” Alf Garnett.
Calling out the terminally thick isn't punching down its merely pointing out the reality that they are terminally thick. Reality doesn't do nice it just does harsh reality.
Yeah the reason people might think its punching down is because just dismissing the issue as "some people are terminally thick theres nothing to be done about it" and so on is its own problem
its a resignation to ignore the core issues that CAUSE the thickness- poor education, misinformation in official sources, manipulation etc
You shouldnt be angry that these people are "terminally thick" you should be mad that theyve been exploited and abused by the parasites draining the country of life and selling off the rotten husk
As a BREXIT voter the argument that Brexit isn't working is a lie, because our Remain parliament both left & right, have refused to implement BREXIT
Watching these people explain their thought processes is like watching Les Dawson play the piano. Hilarious and painful at the same time.
Les knew what he was doing though.
@@webchimp- 👍👏
They've identified relevant issues but bizarrely are still rewarding the party that has caused them.
I live in this town, and unfortunately 50%+ of the population haven't even got a clue what politics are.
Wow and these are the same people who complain about NHS waiting lists. If i was a nurse or doctor form elsewhere I'd avoid the UK at all costs.
“If you think it’s bad under the Tories, wait until Labour get in.”
How is it gonna be worse under Labour? I’ve been asking this question for years and so far I haven’t had an answer.
The classic Tory tripe argument
After 14 years of Torries, you say vote them again. It's time to see specialists in mental health. Ups 8 mln waiting list
The only thing more stupid than voting conservative is voting Labour.
As a Welshman I completely agree that Wales voting to leave was especially insane given how much redevelopment funding Wales used to receive from the EU.
2:45: Reporter: "Why Conservatives?"
Clueless woman: "I don't know.
"I just did."
And there's your major problem. Dear, oh dear, oh dear.😢
Max's sighs of desperation matching my own to the absolute millisecond might mean I've been watching this channel for a very long time...
Land of Dope and Tory.
😂
Best comment here! Democracy only works if the electorate is informed or at least wants to be. But too many people are so intellectually lazy that they think in mere cliches.
@@Rosie6857 There has to be a paradigm shift in English attitudes, a cultural revolution if you will before it can sort out all its problems.
Brexit was not so much a war of England against the EU as England against itself.
The country is in a complete mess, and we have people who still believe in Brexit,
Brexit is the Saviour of the UK. What is preventing that is politicians and people like you.
I'm taking it you've not noticed the dire state of the European Union member states'' economies?? For example, is Germany's recession due to Brexit?? What about the farmer's protests against EU agricultural policies which are making food more expensive - are they also due to Brexit??
We need immigration, but I am afraid of Islamic terror attacks in Europe.
Yesterday I just decided to read about the decapitated teacher in France
and this was an act of Islamic terror.
But these are just men, not nurses in hospitals or nursing homes.
THE MEDIA HAS TO ANWSER FOR SOME OF THIS
All of it
"Do these people not understand the NHS needs immigrants?" - No they don't. The narrative that high immigration is the reason people can't see GPs resonates because it goes hand in hand with xenophobic suspicion. It's incredibly powerful. Its the same sentiment that lead to the holocaust.
I work in the NHS. Got in the lift and the two guys beside me were talking about "these bloody immigrants".
It took all my strength to not tell them most of their nurses are foreign
Nice try. The NHS staffing issues have been a problem since at LEAST the early 80s, so how do equate this with Brexit? And, for the record, foreign nurses don’t like shitty pay and poor working conditions any more than British nurses do, hence despite the numerous expensive EU recruitment drives, nearly all EU nurses I have personally known either ended up in the private sector or went to Canada or Australia. The NHS response is to poach nurses from developing countries and then tie them into exploitative contracts which require them to remain in the Trusts for at least 5 years or pay back all the money spent bringing them here.
Nope. The NHS needs to focus on retaining staff and making itself a viable career choice for youngsters entering the workforce.
@@SG-wx8zm did you support striking nurses and doctors?
@@mrbearbear83 Yes.
Give me strength voting for the tories 😩😩😩
Well let’s be honest, these people voted for this and deserve the consequences, it’s just a shame our lives are destroyed also.
Scary lack of education going on here.
It’s not just education, it’s critical thinking.
It’s even a brain that is needed here.
Remember Trump said he liked the uneducated…
Tories are the same.
Very scary indeed, media have the people destroyed
@@chatham43 since when did education equate with privare?
@@chatham43 Most of the people I know in Scandinavia left school when they were 16 or 18. They all speak and write perfect English. All state educated.
@@chatham43pathetic. How do you know this person was privately educated. You don’t, you’re just being rude to people you don’t know because it makes you feel like a big tough guy. GROW UP FFS
You will find a similar mentality in Tennessee, Mississippi Alabama. They have refused million of dollars in taxpayers money for infrastructure, schools jobs and housing because the Republican politicians there think taking government money is wrong except when it comes to their salaries.
The Blue states taxes subsidise all the republican states - bizarre isn't it!
The people from the states you named are originally from the eastern part of England, this is a result of breeding within a small gene pool
@@thepatriot4076 Maybe, but the Republican politicians are not. They are happy to exploit them for political gain.
Also, like Australia, the majority are descendents of condemned criminals.