Rory Stewart breaks down 'rotten state' of UK politics | LBC analysis
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Iain Dale speaks to bestselling author and podcaster Rory Stewart, with one week to go till the general election.
On Rishi Sunak he told Iain Dale:
"I thought that he was somebody who was very, very confident in argument. So you could see that in the debate last night. He's very good at arguing. And I as a minister when I was trying to convince him of something, we'd often get in these very long arguments and he's very good at that kind of debating.
But I never felt that he had the kind of big sense of who he was and where he stood on the really big issues .I wasn't completely convinced on where he stood on Brexit. I couldn't understand why he endorsed Boris Johnson so quickly, except because he wanted to get a fast track into the cabinet.
It's very understandable that many other people I joined Parliament with were like that -Matt Hancock Priti Patel had a bit of that going on as well.
I think in a way to survive as Prime Minister, he needed to have a sense of who he was and who his values were.
His biggest chance. I still think as if he'd come in and said, ‘I'm distancing myself from Liz Truss, Boris Johnson. I'm going to vote on this privileges committee report. This is a disgrace. This is a new direction. I'm changing things’. He might have had hope in this election."
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I am a long term Labour Party member, but have great respect for Rory Stewart. An impressive man and politician in a party with too few people with anything like his ability and integrity.
Really. I think he’s vile. Thinks far too much of himself.
I too am a long time Labour voter and have a lot of time for Rory Stewart too
@DavidAger-r9j If more Tories were like Rory Stewart, Keir Starmer wouldn't have had such an easy road to No 10.
@@call_in_sickHow did you come to that conclusion?
His constituents couldn't stand him because he was never there, always buggering off to London.
How did an MP for one of the least populated parts of the UK ever think he could handle mayor of London?
I wouldnt call PPE minor corruption, I wouldnt call the binning of the russia report minor corruption, I wouldnt call partying in lockdown minor corruption.
100%
Johnson binning the Russia Report should be investigated and Johnson should be investigated by the Security Services for his Tuscany visit.
Me neither.
Tory wrong'uns
Keep that generous state of mind Ian when the next Labour scandal comes.
Rory Stewart, a bit too honest to be a successful politician.
Exactly!
I really admire Rory he’s very calm and truly thinks before he speaks
Rory is trash, when the people voted out of the EU, he was one that went against the will of the British people. The problem is he is meant to serve and he does not understand. People that support him support wanting to be ignored by their politicians and do not believe in democracy.
He’s one of the Tory’s I’ve always thought was very genuine.
He is also a politician that thinks he knows best. He wanted to overturn the will of the people when it came to Brexit, seemed he forgot he was elected to serve. In other words, he does not believe in democracy and people that support him support being ignored by our politicians.
Rory basically has too much integrity to be a politician .
Andrew Bridgen stays the course.
@ThePatcarolan - I totally agree with you.
If he had integrity he wouldn't be mates with Campbell.
Tory integrity 😂
@@elkpaz560 A conspiracy theorist, a man who thought he was just automatically allowed to have an Irish passport, and whose mouth opens without checking boring things like facts?
Staying the course? No one hears anything from him now, apart from the hard of thinking, and believe he has integrity despite such evidence to the contrary? Really?
You need a serious head wobble.
Rory is decent man lost his way as a Tory but would be asset to a other decent party.
Rory would be a great asset to Labour.... they should employ him.
Tory, Labour, any really.
@@nfcpro he's running interference, trying to distract from the increasingly evident fact that his old etonian schoolmates would rather sell-out the country than their own. think of just how serious a problem that is, when the school educates the most privileged & most entitled to 'run' that country
@@lamestreammedia3154 The problem for Rory like many great thinkers is he will find it hard to follow the script presented to him by our third-rate politicians. Compare Rory Stewart to the likes of Braverman, Badenoch, Patel, Sunak, maybe someone should attempt a Thesis on why so many children of East African/Asian parentage have almost utter contempt for the British people regardless of colour or wealth.
@@ScruffyTubbles Cultural
Rory Stewart, the best Prime Minster we never had
'MINOR corruption?' 🤣
Only if it concerns a Tory
Surely he must remember the stark similarities we are facing today are the same as under Thatcher. The mass unemployment, record levels of child poverty, Decline of Workers rights, very deliberately Divide in communities, Privatization of our utility's to the highest bidder, massive rise in inequality, squeezed pay, abysmal Services etc etc. it's all there to frighteningly see
@lad And kids sweeping chimneys..and I'm not making that up to laughably exaggerate...well maybe I am...but who cares!😊
I remember the Tory slogan "We are all in it together".
What lies the Tories told.
The reality is the rich got richer and the poor got poorer, with food banks opening in every community forcing UK men, women and children to use food banks to survive.
With Tory austerity, cuts to public services and the safety net.
We need a new voting system , that's less competitive, more inclusive of all people in uk
Less polarized, less media circus. It needs to be more serious, with thoughtful informed meaningful discussion.
We were offered the choice and rejected it
@@randyschwaggins it's time to look at again , there has been alot of water under the bridge, people are getting angry.
@@sadjaxx agreed, the old centralised order is crumbling. As an optimist , something better will emerge, but not before a big mix up first.
@@randyschwaggins not proper PR tho. it was half assed.
Anyone who wants to learn about the cyclical style of British governments, read the diary version of Yes Prime Minister. Best political sitcom ever made, but the diary version of the scripts are just superb and explain everything. Nothing has changed since it was published in 1988.
Nothing has changed? Boris Johnson used those diaries as a "user manual" for his premiership 😂😂
@@garyt123 One line from Sir Humphrey Appleby was "most Prime Ministers come to a grounding halt" - and it is true
"Minor corruption"?!!!
Rory 👏👏👏 try not let the system grind you down. Yes we have a corrupt media.
Channel 4 springs to mind.
What do they stand for?
Grifting.
And you, trolling ?
Tory stands for Thief in Irish.
@@TimComleyGay!
I do like Rory very much.
Minor corruption is that the same as Dale being slightly bald 😂
Wow. At last someone who has put this whole political mess into perspective. You’ve summed it all up perfectly. Thanks.
In 2,010, Rory Stewart and Iain Dale stood against each other as prospective Conservative Party candidates for the Bracknell constituency. Alas, neither was successful!
The problem with the Tories is they got rid of people like Rory Stewart in favour of people like Boris Johnson. It's going to be at least a generation before enough people forget the disgrace that is Boris and give them another chance.
Rory nails it. The party system is desperate for power... that isn't analagous with representation. I think it's now time for a proportional model.
Integrety is in short supply and is not held high as a value.
As a scot, I think Rory Stewart was the only Tory MP that I ever found palatable.
I know what the Tory party is....FINNISHED !!!! :0)
Bore off
Didn't know the Tories were going Scandi.
the key to understanding why it's almost certainly not finished, imo, is to consider it as an arm of the british aristocracy, maintained now through links forged between the future politicians & the future landowners at eton - where rory also happened to go to school. the reality today is that rural britain is still home to huge estates, & families with massive local sway that, when combined with favourable electoral maps & clubs like the garrick, mean the a tory party filled with old etonians can effectively never be pushed further than the next election away from the possibility of returning to power. until there is a reckoning in british instiutions with the obvious reality that eton is a particularly aggressive parasite on democracy, the party will party on :(
Finnished? 🤔 Some term Samuel Clemens coined about Huck Finn?
@@millrace32Makes no difference mate, just hot air IMHO. If they win an appallingly low number of seats they will be over and done with. Nobody wants to be associated with a loser, less so a _historic loser,_ and certainly not the aristocracy.
Some circles are saying less than 50 seats. How terribly embarrassing old chap!
The institution is rotten pretty much sums it up for me. It often feels, sounds and looks like morals, ethics, integrity and honesty just don't matter. Politicians can often sound like they are hiding something and not being upfront.
Part of the issue of calling it "minor corruption" is in itself a part of the issue;
1) it downplays what happened.
2) it's wrong regardless if it was minor or major.
I would love to hear more of Rorys thoughts on how parties, parliament works etc and his ideas to change that for the better. I may disagree with some of his ideas but I respect him.
RS - a seemingly honest politician - a rare beast
He is spot on re the way politics works. As voters we moan about dishonesty but its a fact that taxes need to be raised to sort 14 years of Tory decline, yet the electorate are scared into not voting forva party that would raise tax.
We're already paying 97-99% tax, at least those of who pay tax are...
As an MP you have to sell your soul and follow the whip. Your constituency can be thrown under a bus but you have to toe the line of the self served party.
"Minor" corruption??? Jesus!
Rory notes the points very well - the limitations of political process and probably why we have slipped to popularist superficiality? The realities are we should be looking for politics should be about running technocracy based on competencies (reinforcing responsibilities) and accountability (decentralisation and looking at business principles)
"Minor Corruption"...what a soft underplaying of theft from the public purse.
MINOR corruption?! 😵
Didn't bojo kick stewart out? Along with all the other small c tories?
Dale says he believes all long serving governments end in the kind of mess we're seeing now. I recall a host of scandals during the Thatcher-Major era, but I don't recall Brown or Blair ever having a major new scandal every few weeks as we're seeing now. Partisan, are we?
Sorry but did not Blair/Brown end up with the illegal war scandal and bigot gate.
No, they just destroyed the country, selling all our Gold destroying all social cohesion.
No No No it's not minor corruption it's major corruption from top to bottem!
Sounds like he feels disillusioned by Parliament on both sides. This is how i feel when it comes to UK politics and i don't like it. I have felt like for quite a few years. My feeling is that the union should break up and Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England should all become independent countries. I think the union is broken beyond repair. I won't be voting Labour, Liberal Democrats and i CERTAINLY won't be voting tory 🤮 next week i've already made my decision i will be voting SNP for Scotland and Scottish independence.
Rory says that Rishi called this election as a way to get out. Everything that Rishi has done since supports Rory's point.
All this fantastic change Sunak promises! Why couldn’t he have it all years ago, suddenly a great future It’s all possible
This man is someone i could vote for.
Talks like a human being.
Hopefully he comes back into the political fold.
I think dales ok, I don’t often agree with him, but at least he sees the issue with the tories. I think that’s fair enough! He also gets different ppl with different views on his show.
virus - that sums up the Tories
Anymore? Ha! We've ALL known for decades what they are, nasty nasty nasty.
Government Minister: The only job you can do with zero actual qualifications for the job.
This was a refreshing listen...
Dystopia Warning! Look at your local independent candidates. Don’t automatically replace the ESTABLISHMENT with the ESTABLISHMENT by voting for Labour. Nothing will change under Starmer!!! Obviously.
A washed-up Tory discussing Tories with a washed-up Tory.
Should there be a criterion that people should have background experience of community engagement (service within) to qualify standing for Parliament?
Unfortunately the UK is facing the same political phenomenon other younger democratic nations have been experiencing over the last decade or so, where traditional parties tend to lose power as the voters see through their party -first loyalty above country, and this paves the way for individual charismatic leaders in underdog newborn parties to grow and move in on the scene as we are seeing now. The voter loses party affiliation and empathizes with the populist speakers. This also brings substantial unknowns into the equation and instability into a country’s destiny in very uncertain times.
He doesn't know what the Tory party is anymore. Come off it! It is what it always was: a party serving the interests of the rich!
TRUTH
I used to have respect for Rory Stewart, but instead of going independent or changing to a party that maybe would have given him the stage he rightly deserved and would have made an impact he just quit, doing the tories basically a favour. Whining about the tories [or rather any party] from the outside after being in is just not what one should join politics for. Coming on the radio whining about bad and corrupt people as if they're the only ones who should be running the country. What's the point.. It's like he just got tired of crying, telling them to stop constantly as they commited "minor corruption".
We need Rory back ❤
that would be all the oxbridge sorts
Take responsibility Dale for having a hand in this Country being broken as a Tory voter 🤮
Dale thought the current tory party reflected his views and wanted to be part of it..... haha
Rory Stewart's opinion isn't inconsequential - he was the tutor and confidante of a young Prince William. This will matter should there be a constitutional crisis.
Your right Rory it's rotten to the core there dismantling our way of life there all the same
I thought Dale left his LBC job to stand as a candidate, did they just rehire him? I wanted to hear what Rory Stewart had to say but...Dale?
he slagged off the area he wanted to serve. they didnt like that
@@kanedNunable yes, I know, but thanks. 👍
The carnage of the Tory party was caused by people like Dale who wanted Brexit. No Brexit No chaos.
Rory Stewart as leader would probably propel the a new Tory party back into power.
He's a liberal. Old style.
Rory Stewart on maneuvers, hope he gets the job.
Well it's better off without people like STEWART,HIS GAFF IS THE VOTERS OUSTED HIM AND HE CANT TAKECIT
Rory is one of the very very few Tories i can forgive.
@hansel You can forgive them for the trillions spent on Lockdown?
lol he is a Tory through and through.
Minor corruption 😂
I think he knows exactly what the tory party is now. Largely the same as it was when he was an mp under dodgy dave
Rory looks like more of a leader
He looks emaciated
Rory…. Make a new party ….. I think so many of us would vote for you
He literally did this to all of us Roy supported austerity that's why the country's such a mess I'm, Campbell and people like him broke this country
hey did u know Rory spent years in Afghanistan and walked from Kabul to Nepal?
Spot on Rory... Power Corruption and Lies...
Generally, I’m deeply suspicious of anybody who wants power
State corruptin of any type isn't minor......
That was two bald men arguing over a comb. Nether had anything to say and wanted to cover the backside of their masters and betters ( in Ians case ) or their mates ( in Rorys case )
arrogance + ignorance = brexit
ROSEMARY!!!!
I got 30 seconds in, because I saw Rory’s face on the thumbnail. ‘I can play a role’. Joke.
I rate Mr Stewart very highly despite his being a Tory.
The Owner Class has shifted away from Conservative incompetence and have made an alliegence with Starmers Labour, who are now The New Conservatives, no changes, nothing too radical from what we’ve had since forever, the door of change has closed, opportunity lost under Starmers New Conservative Labour.
Unlike Gillette Sunak and Starmer are not the best a man can get.
Minor corruption? If Ian if you consider that the ppe vip contracts are minor corruption I worry about your morals and corruption judgement.
I can't believe Iain Dale can show his face in public after his recent humiliation.
Watching the rest is politics, Rory comes across like a maried man with a wife who is slowly realising he is attracted more to men 😅 in the political sense i mean. 😅
In all seriousness to see Rory feeling politically homless shows how far things have shifted. He is a fantastic crentist voice these days and I don't think there are even many from the far (aka ideological) left that wouldn't mind him in Labour. Owen Jones would cry about it but he's a tool IMO.
He is arguably more balanced in his views than his slightly insufferable oppo Campbell who is kind of just a die hard New Labour guy but the both of them converge that i think the dialogue they have is fantastic for supporting the fact that the centre ground is the only place where things really happen.
They’re all hopeless very poor quality all of them
The party today aligns with your voting record. You would still fit in.
If you didn't know, you'd think Rory Stewart was part of the Labour party.
Ian Dale is 61. Rory Stewart is 51. Why is he talking as if Rory is a youngun?
Join the LibDems Rory.
Ha-Ha! Minor corruption he says... Tory stooge 5:05
Dale playing a role in something.A receiver of back handers from the billionaires who run the Tory party.
Dale - Talking about "minor corruption" ???!! Delusional
Also, large swathes of the press are NOT pursuing politicians. Politicians are rarely ever called out on lies or untruths. They are way too cosy together.
@@owenrichards1418 There is some much it just becomes the wallpaper. It's not worth mentioning, nobody has not seen the wallpaper and nobody is intrested in you keep pointing it out. It's almost the Tory way, have so much scandle you can't pick out one bit from the jungle.
He’s in denial and tries to say Blair and Brown were as corrupt as Tories. An attempt at projection.
lets not forget he wanted to serve this corrupt tory party
@@daveball137they were
Spot on Rory. If Sunak had made clear from the outset he was distancing himself from the previous numpties and had stressed a record of recovering some stability and competence, he might have stood a chance in the election. As it is, he’s just another Tory leader who is out of touch and in the game only for themselves. There is not a shred of public service evident anywhere in this Government and people up and down the country are sick to the teeth with all of them.
Sunak had so much promise. I think you're completely right. He could have been the right man, but he's just made some awful decisions and couldn't distance himself from the two shitshows that came before him
@@sg3215Sunak was Wise to Boris's Morecambe...
The problem is the Tories are only interested in themselves and their own and not EVERYONE.
@paul Name a party that isn't?
@@chatham43I can name two that are NOT interested in _anyone._ Conservative and Reform. At least all the others have positive policies and aren't just whining, fearmongering, grifters.
They're all the same. Watch Sir Flipalot changing his principles every week to get to power. Ed Davey's role in the sub-postmaster scandal. They ALL disgust me. We need a revolution.
I agree - but in 3 years time we'll be saying that about Labour. It has always been with the Government of the day.
Dale's "latest" attempts at running as a Tory, lasted 19 hours, before he was handed his own backside😂😂😂😂
Initially he blamed legacy media for the lack of context, then changed it to social media
😂😂 He's such a muppet
@@SlowPokeRacing33but he has had a cracking career whilst you ate a fan boy
@@TimComleyOf he has, if pimping the corrupt muppets that have pocketed billions of everyone’s money whilst claiming it’s everyone that’s the problem. He’s part of the British media grooming industry for the public.
A Torry wanna be interviewing a Tory has-been ?
Rory Stewart. The best PM the Tories never had.
He's too timid. Even IDS had to turn up the volume.
@@woodrocknetwork7507 Maybe we need some of that after the overly loud morons we've had in Number 10 recently.
He was never a real conservative at all. He ran for PM but is now thinking of voting Green! Imagine a labour MP ruining for leader and later voting for Reform and you can see how ridiculous it is.
@@neilbradley100 The bulk of the Conservative vote is centre right middle class one nation, a lot of people in my blue wall constituency vote green for local elections
The loudest voice is rarely the smartest @@woodrocknetwork7507
I don't share Iain Dale's political values. Nevertheless, 61 is not too old to do politics. Is he not aware of the current duel between two elderly Americans aged 78 and 81?
@helen Your first sentence was irrelevant to your point wasn't it?
@@chatham43 No. Put another way.... Although I'll never vote for him, I would still encourage him to try again to achieve his political aims, and not let his age deter him. (Note: In the discussion he said he would not try again due to his age.)
yeah, its not his age, its the fact he slagged off the area he wanted to serve.
@@chatham43bit touchy because you do share his political views?
The tories are rotting in their own corruption and arrogance
If you think it is an issue of party you haven't been paying attention.
Arrogance and Entitlement.
Let’s see how quickly labour with a supermajority descend into arrogance, then into corruption too.
Dale really is up his own backside…
Whilst I might not agree with his politics, I would encourage anyone to "have a go" if they think they can contribute to positive change
@@Litheon11 I would encourage people to put their local area before their party. He just confirmed in what he said it was about the state of the party and not about improving the area, which evidently he disliked.
@@Litheon11 I would encourage people to put their local area before their party. He just confirmed in what he said it was about the state of the party and not about improving the area, which evidently he disliked.
“Minor corruption” Jesus.
@One Just a bet. And don't blaspheme!
@@chatham43 Don't try to impose your religious rules on other people. It's very rude
Mr Stewart may not know what the Conservative Party has become. To find out he can simply ask the rest of us.
@Neuro What if he asks you what the Labour party has become.
@@chatham43 I see you comment on almost every post on this channel. You must spend a lot of time on here!
@@chatham43a party with a shot at winning for a change
I have always voted for labour but Rory Stewart is a Tory i could vote for
look how he voted....
@@kanedNunablelisten to what he says in this video.
I think I echo your sentiments actually. Through reading his books and being exposed to a lot of his rationale you can see the reasoning and viewpoint. It almost overrides the left/right divide.
Given the fundamental aim of voting in a general election is for each voter to nominate the right PERSON to represent their electorate with integrity, I think the fact that Rory used to be a Tory politician becomes essentially irrelevant. Party politics is the canker at the heart of true governance of the people, by the people and for the people.
The whole of Parliament needs to be modernised. It is still living in the 19th century.
Even the USA changed to a round chamber .
They need to be able to call liars, liars
We need intelligent non tribal people, so hopefully Rory can play some part in helping any Government.