The Tory Heartland Where Voters Have GIVEN UP On Democracy

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  • Aaron went down to Chichester to find out why people in the Tory heartlands have given up on politics.
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  • @intraum
    @intraum 7 місяців тому +209

    older socialist fella with a packet of prawn cocktail crisps. now that is a man of great sense and tastes

    • @showme360
      @showme360 7 місяців тому +13

      Until his misses came along and nick the packet!! far more important than talking politics. lol

    • @paulflint6254
      @paulflint6254 7 місяців тому +2

      Wouldn't mind a dictatorship lol

    • @Sammmgill
      @Sammmgill 7 місяців тому +4

      Crackin flavour, bring back Worcestershire Sauce too

    • @kratakat
      @kratakat 7 місяців тому +1

      Love both of em

    • @frankydave
      @frankydave 7 місяців тому

      More of a salt and vinegar man myself. ​@@Sammmgill

  • @dextercool
    @dextercool 7 місяців тому +659

    The furlough money came ftom taxpayers - not Tories.

    • @jcanyiam8309
      @jcanyiam8309 7 місяців тому

      So ***king True!
      I guess after 14 years, that's all he's got to cling on to.
      The TORY PARTY has cost Me my business and lots of my EU Friends due to BREXIT.

    • @anthonydude
      @anthonydude 7 місяців тому +13

      Actually it came from everyone, whether or not they pay tax

    • @1aatlas
      @1aatlas 7 місяців тому +18

      And also whether or not they have been born yet.

    • @anthonydude
      @anthonydude 7 місяців тому +2

      @@1aatlas true. Also, everyone in the UK has benefited from that spending, whether or not they received it directly, or have been born yet.

    • @jankench1731
      @jankench1731 7 місяців тому +21

      It benefited the rich employers ie the wife of the current Prime minister for example.

  • @Shrike-Valeo
    @Shrike-Valeo 7 місяців тому +306

    Tories dont do mistakes. They know and choose to act corrupt and inept.

    • @shortydoc85
      @shortydoc85 7 місяців тому

      😢😢fh! Ku up

    • @joaquimioakim229
      @joaquimioakim229 7 місяців тому

      Yes because Labour never lied about WMDs and went into a w20 year war that cost thousands of civilians lives in their country, over five hundred military live and counting and cost 36 Billion pounds and counting
      Have a look at disgraced Kieth vas with his rent boys and cocaine habit and now Lord, Peter Mandlesons record

    • @hsthatzo8063
      @hsthatzo8063 7 місяців тому +2

      @@SC-bp5lq"Leftists": right wing conspiracy theorist!! The jab was 100% safe!
      Also leftists: **your comment**

    • @Atamanxxxvii
      @Atamanxxxvii 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes. People often try to cope that mass-immigration was simply Tory incompetence, but the Tories specifically enacted policy with the goal of maximally opening up pipelines for immigration.

    • @jamessmithson-br7rm
      @jamessmithson-br7rm 7 місяців тому

      Replace “tories” with “politicians” and you are not far wrong… can’t trust any of them

  • @guapochino140
    @guapochino140 7 місяців тому +611

    45 years of neoliberalism and you get the most apathetic country on earth. It's worked out perfectly.

    • @ciaranirvine
      @ciaranirvine 7 місяців тому

      I keep saying, there's a REASON why the US and UK have been most obviously affected in this age of disinformation, conspiracy theories, "alternative facts" and right-wing sadopopulism. It's the decades of neoliberalism.

    • @rolandrothwell4840
      @rolandrothwell4840 7 місяців тому +25

      I agree people are apathetic or very reactionary.

    • @guapochino140
      @guapochino140 7 місяців тому +7

      @@rolandrothwell4840 True. I suppose they are 2 sides of the same coin.

    • @sparking2016
      @sparking2016 7 місяців тому +12

      It's not apathy it's surrender

    • @ttynorttyl
      @ttynorttyl 7 місяців тому +8

      It's embarrassing. I'm from the UK but left years ago. It's odd going back and seeing what's going on. Weird atmosphere.

  • @bookie5667
    @bookie5667 7 місяців тому +155

    Nigel Farage was a commodities trader in the City of London.
    Richard Tice was CEO of the real estate group CLS Holdings and CEO of the property asset management group Quidnet Capital LLP.
    Both were privately educated. Both are former Conservatives.
    Both are former members of the European Parliament.
    Both are millionaires.
    Why do some people interviewed consider them "working class"?
    Is our education system really that bad?

    • @tomricketts7821
      @tomricketts7821 7 місяців тому +27

      Yes

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic 7 місяців тому +16

      More likely the deficiency lies in failure to adapt to the instantaneous communication of the internet (it's only been a thing for 40 years after all), let alone get to grips with 'social media'. That needs to change for all sorts of reasons ... and fast.

    • @andrewrushent2737
      @andrewrushent2737 7 місяців тому +6

      It's the media, largely.

    • @allenmontrasio8962
      @allenmontrasio8962 7 місяців тому +2

      In a word? Yes.

    • @yn7751
      @yn7751 7 місяців тому +13

      Neither went to Oxbridge which is the only relevant thing.
      Tice went to some no-name cheap private school, worked in his family's firm and then started his own.
      Farage went to a mid tier private school, didnt even go to university. and went straight into employment. Commodities traders are dime a dozen, if you think its worth bringing up then you don't know anything about it lmao
      A world apart from the Tory and Labour front bench.....

  • @torincho
    @torincho 7 місяців тому +116

    The Gentleman 12 mins in is had it all right.
    Top man he is

    • @philiplevins6702
      @philiplevins6702 7 місяців тому +16

      totally agree...a gentleman who's 'been there and got the T-shirt'...wise words indeed from him...the political system is a sham...I'm in my late 50's and can, hand on heart, say he hit the proverbial nail on the head...peace ☘☘

  • @olliehodgkinson5023
    @olliehodgkinson5023 7 місяців тому +448

    Genuinely refreshing to see a leftist old man at 12:39!

    • @vinopacino2423
      @vinopacino2423 7 місяців тому +63

      Talked a lot of sense the old boy. He's right, the system is broken in this country

    • @philiplevins6702
      @philiplevins6702 7 місяців тому +51

      a proper 'old school' Gentleman...spoke with balance and reason...something we need more of ( imho )

    • @El-Burrito
      @El-Burrito 7 місяців тому +52

      Glad he exists, sad to hear it sounds like he's given up hope. But it's not easy when you see things the way he does.

    • @beanbunn4029
      @beanbunn4029 7 місяців тому +35

      Nice to see a clued up old man.

    • @marktime9235
      @marktime9235 7 місяців тому +15

      Totally agree with this chap. Need more like him. Spread the word mate!

  • @yamadakenji4143
    @yamadakenji4143 7 місяців тому +69

    "What are people from Chichester called?"
    "Old farts ..."
    Brilliant. A bit of biting humour is welcome in these bleak times

  • @bernardkrarup6774
    @bernardkrarup6774 7 місяців тому +111

    "I don't think our system of politics works". He nailed it.

    • @MCJSA
      @MCJSA 7 місяців тому

      I guess the take away is that representative democracy should be representative or it isn't really very democratic.

    • @UsuallyTrolling
      @UsuallyTrolling 7 місяців тому +1

      "I dont think the system works"

  • @martywest6004
    @martywest6004 7 місяців тому +24

    I like how Aaron actually listens to what people are saying to him.

  • @Steven-vo4ee
    @Steven-vo4ee 7 місяців тому +78

    Red coated woman's husband must be delighted, she's extremely easily pleased!

    • @desiladygamer2076
      @desiladygamer2076 7 місяців тому +6

      But she has a crush on Rishi so maybe not.

  • @zenastronomy
    @zenastronomy 7 місяців тому +135

    THE TORY VOTER
    the establishment came for the weak, the ill and the unemployed, and they voted for tories.
    the establishment then came for the labour supporters, the poor, the students, and the wage workers and they voted tories.
    then the establishment came for them, as the establishment had no one else to feed off of.
    and they got upset and gave up on democracy 😂😂😂😂
    laughable if not for being so tragic.

    • @DrDanQ92
      @DrDanQ92 7 місяців тому

      Don't forget their last ditch effort to blame the immigrants (historically an outgroup like the jews).

    • @DrDanQ92
      @DrDanQ92 7 місяців тому +12

      Don't forget their last ditch effort to blame it on the immigrants...

    • @hermonbrowne5217
      @hermonbrowne5217 7 місяців тому +5

      Bang on 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Now they feeling that pain

    • @vardito10
      @vardito10 7 місяців тому +2

      so spot on man.

  • @irreversiblyhuman
    @irreversiblyhuman 7 місяців тому +8

    This interview format really suits Aaron. Enjoying hearing the locals. Even if a bit deranged sometimes, it's crucial to hear where we are at.

  • @Jim1255783
    @Jim1255783 7 місяців тому +51

    Chichester is broken; did you see that elderly gentleman getting mugged in broad daylight in a drive-by, had his crisps stolen from him at @14:00, just awful.

    • @fs7808
      @fs7808 7 місяців тому +2

      Ahahahahaha

    • @suec6521
      @suec6521 7 місяців тому +3

      That's what happens when you give a person with a disability a wheelchair.

    • @Idcanymore510
      @Idcanymore510 7 місяців тому

      🤣🤣

  • @JulieLevinge
    @JulieLevinge 7 місяців тому +45

    Paying for the wealthy to get wealthy whilst the most vulnerable are left to suffer!

  • @susanmitchell5447
    @susanmitchell5447 7 місяців тому +65

    Oh dear me this is SO depressing........

  • @FraserBailey-jm5yz
    @FraserBailey-jm5yz 7 місяців тому +42

    I'm no leftie but I like Aaron, and it's good to see him actually getting out there, reporting and talking to people.

  • @SusanScarrott
    @SusanScarrott 7 місяців тому +49

    Elderly man in the beige jacket had it right.

  • @lolly1811
    @lolly1811 7 місяців тому +2

    This is so, so grim. Overall, grim.

  • @severian1916
    @severian1916 7 місяців тому +5

    I do like your interview style Aaron you are such a polite chap very respectful and gentile. What a gentleman. Nice job

  • @Sam-ue3yu
    @Sam-ue3yu 7 місяців тому +417

    Announcing you want to go to another country because too many people have come to your country is an effective way to convey your intelligence

    • @Bward888
      @Bward888 7 місяців тому +70

      What are his options then? This is actually one of the arguments against immigration. An Indian India will still be there for the Indians that want it, but there is no meaningfully English England somewhere else for this man to flee too.
      There is an economic zone called England, but he increasingly feels like a stranger in his own homeland.
      You should pay attention to his concerns because they are shared by millions, not just here, but all across the West. They will be fueling significant political changes in the near future.

    • @deicide666100
      @deicide666100 7 місяців тому

      @@Bward888you’re missing the irony of his statement, there are too many foreigners so he wants to leave and then become himself a foreigner in whatever country he decides to go to, it doesn’t solve anything, it creates two immigrants instead of creating a plan that gives people opportunities in their own countries so they don’t need to find a new home, simply blocking access does nothing except make people find new ways to get around the block, stop the reason at the source and it isn’t an issue anymore

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 7 місяців тому +31

      Your comment would have a point if he was against any form of migration, which he clearly isn't, he's against mass migration.
      So him leaving the country isn't fulfilling 'mass migration' as he is one person, emigrating.
      There is no contradiction or hint of hypocrisy in his position. If you were as smart as you think you are you'd realise that and not make a comment like this.

    • @tr3vk4m
      @tr3vk4m 7 місяців тому +101

      @@kravan5063 Doesn't like foreigners - wants to move to live with foreigners...?

    • @keirmitchell5560
      @keirmitchell5560 7 місяців тому +3

      Explain where things have got better

  • @TheMdog8
    @TheMdog8 7 місяців тому +121

    Those two young lads.... fucking hell man

    • @scheikundeiscool4086
      @scheikundeiscool4086 7 місяців тому +57

      It is the curse of the youth to see the truth of the older generation and then make the same mistake again. He is absolutly right in that the rich are running the country for their own benefit. He is just absolutly in the wrong about the part that reform would not just be the same thing but worse.

    • @Shrike-Valeo
      @Shrike-Valeo 7 місяців тому

      I thought we were further away from the States where black people vote for trump. Damn :( Reform are targeting tiktok and getting something... maybe forward planning for a PR situation..

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 7 місяців тому +11

      What exactly is wrong with their position?

    • @JackVezz
      @JackVezz 7 місяців тому +14

      Asks the man with a Celtic cross in his profile photo..

    • @kravan5063
      @kravan5063 7 місяців тому +14

      @@JackVezz Celtic cross??? my picture is the flag of a fictional empire for a scifi book series im working on.
      it's not the celtic cross at all. You should probably stop assuming things and being ignorant.

  • @PeterKenyon-mx3zs
    @PeterKenyon-mx3zs 7 місяців тому +12

    such a respectful & reflective vox pop - if the mainstream media were more interested in real people,rather than the "gotcha" moments they need for their ratings - we might have a chance of understanding why people are so obviously utterly disillusioned with democracy in its' present incarnation... great stuff Aaron!

  • @robertlawrence5275
    @robertlawrence5275 7 місяців тому +23

    That old couple..no hesitation in responding the tories have done a good job! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Truly baffling these people think the past 14 years has been a success!

    • @BusstterNutt
      @BusstterNutt 7 місяців тому

      I've heard some right-wing think tankers refer to themselves as the "ruling classes" maybe conservative think this is true?

    • @neilburns5934
      @neilburns5934 7 місяців тому +1

      If they have shares in energy and water they will think its a success for them.

    • @huntercollinskelly2424
      @huntercollinskelly2424 7 місяців тому +1

      The old couple were well off , own home , private health insurance not a care in the world living in their own bubble, no idea on how bad it is out there 😮

  • @vladimirimp
    @vladimirimp 7 місяців тому +34

    This was my constituency until I moved recently. Ms Keegan was a terrible MP. Near the bottom of the list of accessibility. She wouldn’t answer a message but you could hear her every other night on LBC. Definition of self serving.
    Keegan can’t even pronounce ‘Chichester’ - was just installed there because it was a safe seat.

    • @robertcarter6963
      @robertcarter6963 7 місяців тому +3

      I agree totally! I am from Chichester. Keegan does not care about the area! She is a career politician and nothing more!

  • @TheMdog8
    @TheMdog8 7 місяців тому +48

    "I think they were marvelous" - live in a bubble much?

    • @rothwellaudio
      @rothwellaudio 7 місяців тому +2

      It could be argued that the Novara Media audience is another bubble.

  • @GetGwapThisYear
    @GetGwapThisYear 7 місяців тому +4

    16:20 loved this gentleman. Reminds me of my socialist granddad. He sounds drained thinking and speaking about it. Heartbreaking. I hope we don’t all get to that age and look back to acknowledge that our governments have never really given a shit about us.

  • @chemicalhalf
    @chemicalhalf 7 місяців тому +8

    The teenagers into reform UK was pretty mindblowing. Young people are very pissed off.

    • @pachychon
      @pachychon 7 місяців тому

      It goes one of two ways with the current youth, either they grow numb and apathetic to the government, or very fucking angry and radicalised. It's why far right communities have exploded all across western nations. And UKIP/Reform know to take advantage of that. Pointing a finger at mass immigration, which is an issue but not the umbrella of all the various aspects and systems the tories have dismantled and sold from our nation piecemeal.

    • @thecrimsondragon9744
      @thecrimsondragon9744 6 місяців тому

      And a mixed race one no less…

    • @SpiffingDay
      @SpiffingDay 3 місяці тому

      Because you live in a leftist bubble

  • @alexpetrie2327
    @alexpetrie2327 7 місяців тому +122

    I know I'm a soft-handed middle-class ponce but I genuinely find it baffling how many people have bought the lie that we're in the sh*t because of immigrants.
    It's the oldest trick in the book!

    • @MrSebastianBlake
      @MrSebastianBlake 7 місяців тому +3

      Alex you told no lies. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @Finn959
      @Finn959 7 місяців тому +13

      Soft handed, smooth brained

    • @lindasemple4687
      @lindasemple4687 7 місяців тому +10

      People believe it because the media keeps telling them
      Over and over and over again.

    • @pimmspimms5462
      @pimmspimms5462 7 місяців тому +15

      It’s tragic. None of these people realise that we’re in sh*t because of 14 years of horrific austerity cuts.

    • @algardaus
      @algardaus 7 місяців тому +8

      @@pimmspimms5462 You're in the shit because of 30+ years of Blairism with different management teams but the same goals.

  • @Ste-sr1fr
    @Ste-sr1fr 7 місяців тому +127

    The resigned attitude of the elderly socialist was sad to see.

    • @stanogden8864
      @stanogden8864 7 місяців тому +15

      There are plenty of us.

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic 7 місяців тому +16

      I ought to be a dead cert for Labour , but I'm not and that's due a very broad sweep of policy issues, as much concerning what's missing as what's there.
      I simply cannot vote for a party aiming to follow a course I can only describe as (small 'c') conservative, sold on being more competent than the current feral tory party.
      How ANYONE, let alone the young can be taken in by RefUK's lies is beyond me. A flatlining economy and years of collapsing public services and shattered faith in progress has led us here. This is NOT a good place to be.

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 7 місяців тому

      Blame Tik Tok.

    • @karlgw
      @karlgw 7 місяців тому +9

      sad, but still refreshing to see an older socialist

    • @montaguewithnail6372
      @montaguewithnail6372 7 місяців тому

      Bastani should have asked him what he thought of George Galloway.

  • @EddieN-x8o
    @EddieN-x8o 7 місяців тому +18

    I think here in Bristol is obviously an interesting place because of the 'bleed' from traditional Labour voters towards the Greens. Interestingly, I had a canvasser for Labour at my door last Friday, and as I was laying out the reasons they have lost my vote her coordinator turned into my drive and ushered her away. I don't think there is an appetite to try and persuade us Novara viewers back towards the Labour Party!

  • @andrewglasson4583
    @andrewglasson4583 7 місяців тому +64

    I don't understand all these Tories complaining about the state of water when they would have voted for Thatcher in the 80s and now privatisation as become a failure they are turning against the Tories. Until we get rid of neoliberal economics and go back to embedded liberal economics that we had between 1945 and 1975 nothing is going to change.

    • @JohnJones-k9d
      @JohnJones-k9d 7 місяців тому +6

      We voted for thatcher for the following reasons.
      Country was technically bankrupt.
      Unions and closed shops ran the country, no union card meant no job, upset the shop steward and you got fired for having no union card.
      Secondary picketing meant you might be able to get into your place of work due to this and therefore no pay.
      Unions were on strike
      Rubbish piled in streets due to strikes
      3 days week as no electricity due to power workers or coal workers striking.
      Waiting 6 months to get a landline installed.
      Etc
      Etc
      Etc
      If you did not live through this terrible time, don’t comment on something you don’t know about.

    • @dennismccarthy7032
      @dennismccarthy7032 7 місяців тому

      Thatcher asset stripped Britain. I'm voting Workers Party their policies will undo the harm she caused .

    • @WarrenPeaceOG
      @WarrenPeaceOG 7 місяців тому +22

      @@JohnJones-k9d We don't have unions now, so none of that should be a worry. Keynesian economics is what's powering China. Neoliberalism has created nothing but gross inequality, stagnant economies, and shit-hole countries with collapsing schools and hospitals and shit in the water. It's astonishing how universal its effects are in every country it was tried. In Canada, for example, they also have people dying in ambulances in the hospital parking lot. Underfunding. Privitization. Falling living standards. Kindergarten economics🤮

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@JohnJones-k9dActually, I did come through it. The first PM I recall was Macmillan. Sorry.this is on the long side .....
      As now, the media in 1979 played it's part (and I'm not denying the likes of Scargill and Bickerstaffe played theirs too). There's one variable which really doesn't get the airtime it should.
      North Sea Oil and Gas. Until these reserves were identified, frankly Britain was just some irrelevant washed up, near bankrupt ex-colonial power, of no real interests to seekers of profit beyond the dreams of avarice.
      Probably just coincidence, but compare and contrast with the UK's path with that of Norway, where a national fund was created, investing in the country's infrastructure. That's very different to wasting a one-time largesse on unemployment benefits for three million plus idle workers, wouldn't you say?
      .

    • @andrewglasson4583
      @andrewglasson4583 7 місяців тому +5

      @@JohnJones-k9d Yes but that was because neo liberal economics began with the Callaghan government and resulted in cuts to public services that led to the strikes which just continued with Thatcher.

  • @avs4365
    @avs4365 7 місяців тому +16

    The overwhelming sense of loss of hope - dangerous times indeed.

  • @paulmorris8775
    @paulmorris8775 7 місяців тому +1

    Love the young guy with the chain, His views are refreshing

  • @Scampcam
    @Scampcam 7 місяців тому +32

    young kid: i wanna vote reform, cuz conservatives dont let us have a voice.
    So. You're voting for old, white ex-conservative millionaires, to "represent the young people."

    • @shazana2794
      @shazana2794 7 місяців тому

      Yeah when a young person says that you need to ask how exactly they'll be given a voice.
      It's exactly the same social media misinformation campaign Farage launched for Brexit.

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 7 місяців тому +2

      As oppose to young , non Wht , labour ? 😂 As a 21 year old, yes I am voting for Reform.

    • @Enaiarr
      @Enaiarr 7 місяців тому +5

      @@pevebe So what about the past 14 years of conservative government has you so eager to vote for even more years of conservative governments?

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Enaiarr Calling yourself a conservative doesn't make you one if every single one of your actions for a decade and a half are in line with labour, the one we've had for the last 14 years is only con in name and nothing else

    • @Enaiarr
      @Enaiarr 7 місяців тому +7

      @@pevebe Hang on - you think that austerity, brexit, privatising public services etc. are politically aligned to labour rather than being conservative policies?

  • @douglaspouch5313
    @douglaspouch5313 7 місяців тому +91

    If the richest 100 people in the UK have trebled their wealth in the last 20 years to over half a trillion pounds, then you could argue that the system is working exactly the way it's supposed to.

    • @BusstterNutt
      @BusstterNutt 7 місяців тому

      Why is white collar crime so under reported........?

    • @lemonsandaztecs3072
      @lemonsandaztecs3072 7 місяців тому +2

      The purpose of a system is what it does

  • @MMartinVideo
    @MMartinVideo 7 місяців тому +98

    The guy at 15 minutes, protect him at all costs!

    • @mh1593
      @mh1593 7 місяців тому +14

      someone nicked his crisps!

    • @deangelisdata
      @deangelisdata 7 місяців тому

      @@mh1593 potato

  • @beverlysbrookes8247
    @beverlysbrookes8247 7 місяців тому +14

    Give me strength. Some of these people🫣🫣🫣🫣

    • @Ronnet
      @Ronnet 7 місяців тому

      At the end of the day, you get what you vote for. It's the simplicity of some of these voters that allows parties to dumb down the agenda and get away with not following through on it either. It also allows a corporation like Reform UK to enter the race, pretend to be a party and get away with it. If the population was better educated then we'd have better parties and politicians as well.

  • @joescarecrow
    @joescarecrow 7 місяців тому +2

    You should go to a working class, ex mining, traditionally Labour area in Wales like Merthyr Tydfil. It would be the opposite to this.

  • @stu0508
    @stu0508 7 місяців тому +13

    That women in the red coat i could not believe what i was hearing, Simply astonishing.

  • @scottstevens78
    @scottstevens78 7 місяців тому +41

    I found the young lady talking about Tik Tok the most terrifying. The last guy is an absolute legend. He has really pondered his views. I could have a lovely blether with him.

    • @iuruoy-shao
      @iuruoy-shao 7 місяців тому +2

      I think she herself is quite smart and capable of recognizing the influences that social media has, it's just terrifying how impressionable they are and how deep the far-right pipeline is online

  • @patcampton7163
    @patcampton7163 7 місяців тому +194

    Tories, marvellous. Dear oh dear..These people must be very cosseted. Bring Boris back ???? We are doomed.

    • @PraxusUK
      @PraxusUK 7 місяців тому +8

      He's right though, if they brought Boris back they'd probably do a whole lot better. Like it or not, Boris is such a bombastic, eminently likeable public figure that he wins votes by being 'funny' or 'charming' regardless of what his actual views or record shows.

    • @Lee_303
      @Lee_303 7 місяців тому +14

      ​@@PraxusUK yes but he thinks he can make the deaths of people's relatives a circus act. It's all in the percentages. More people despise him than like him now. Some issues affect (ed) us all & he took the piss.

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut 7 місяців тому +1

      You lost an L and gained an s in there 😉
      closeted.

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut 7 місяців тому +3

      @@user4j0xo5-qi6qd It's not Bucket, it's Bucket!!!

    • @dennismccarthy7032
      @dennismccarthy7032 7 місяців тому +2

      Workers Party are non genocide

  • @liamjenkins1575
    @liamjenkins1575 7 місяців тому +5

    Reckon Novara Media rocking up to and talk to people in Boston and Grimsby would be very interesting. One town had the most poeple vote for brexit. The other has lost has 60% to 70% all of it's shops. One area in Grimsby, East Marsh is the seocnd most deprived places for investment in Britain.

  • @yasminakhtar9715
    @yasminakhtar9715 7 місяців тому +2

    come to west Yorkshire, keighley please

  • @palwales
    @palwales 7 місяців тому +19

    The worrying take for me is how the young people interviewed have totally swallowed the anti immigration rhetoric of Reform and Farage. A terrifying prospect for the future.

    • @richarddavidjohn6803
      @richarddavidjohn6803 7 місяців тому

      I’m not surprised they are worried when net migration is 1% of the population in 1 year

    • @stryk3r360
      @stryk3r360 7 місяців тому

      the tories have been political terrorists for the youth of today, take away most hope, services and possibilities for the young driving them to despair, then it makes perfect sense to me they could be radicalised by anyone with an opinion promising any kind of change

  • @theshazbot93
    @theshazbot93 7 місяців тому +14

    The statement, "this veneer of civility and democracy", hits embarrassingly hard. Love from across the pond.

    • @joaquimioakim229
      @joaquimioakim229 7 місяців тому

      I’ve always said it’s nothing more than a veneer, you seen what happens when we have riots or how people acted in supermarkets during the beginning of the first lockdown

  • @BjørjaBear
    @BjørjaBear 7 місяців тому +16

    This is happening here in Scandinavia, and I suspect, all over Europe.

    • @Ronnet
      @Ronnet 7 місяців тому +1

      And it has been happening since the dawn of time. Its severity comes and goes. It was much worse in the 1930's.

  • @rogston39
    @rogston39 7 місяців тому +7

    "The infrastructure has gone completely".......yes, sums it up well. 12:39; he speaks for so many !

  • @redman_plus
    @redman_plus 7 місяців тому +2

    4:52
    "- What are the people from Chichister called?"
    "- Errrm, old farts, no..."
    Bro this had me 💀

  • @JVSwailesBoudicca
    @JVSwailesBoudicca 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm going to subscribe......I like the content of these videos & I like Mr. Bastani 's (sorry - wrong spelling ? I have forgotten) style of interviewing . He LISTENS !

  • @JasonAtlas
    @JasonAtlas 7 місяців тому +126

    This is what happens when you cripple the local councils. The government entity that's most visible looks useless and ineffective.

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall 7 місяців тому +9

      So the tories give the whole town away to their mates as an enterprise zone.

    • @MCDONALD6969
      @MCDONALD6969 7 місяців тому +1

      What's wrong with the Tories? Or do lefties just hate Tories in general

    • @JasonAtlas
      @JasonAtlas 7 місяців тому

      @@MCDONALD6969 I was born after they went from conservative to neo conservative with Margaret thatcher so maybe they were good at some point but everytime they get in they decimate public services.

    • @kingkonut
      @kingkonut 7 місяців тому +6

      @@MCDONALD6969 yes

    • @MCDONALD6969
      @MCDONALD6969 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kingkonut oh no balance?

  • @mobsiesixsixsix9785
    @mobsiesixsixsix9785 7 місяців тому +125

    The women with the pink jacket is out of her mind.

    • @stevied667iswin
      @stevied667iswin 7 місяців тому +21

      Came here to make this exact comment.

    • @jamesculverhouse4657
      @jamesculverhouse4657 7 місяців тому +15

      I disagree...
      id say the jackets more red than pink

    • @Mark-Catz
      @Mark-Catz 7 місяців тому +9

      The Tories heard the press were in town so got a couple more of their councillors on the job.

    • @richardjohnson713
      @richardjohnson713 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes she is Mad

    • @mobsiesixsixsix9785
      @mobsiesixsixsix9785 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Mark-Catz She certainly sounds like she's campaiging.

  • @ajsctech8249
    @ajsctech8249 7 місяців тому +18

    The answer is a PR voting system and a parliament that might be coalitions of 2 or 3 parties. That will give more people representation.

    • @joaquimioakim229
      @joaquimioakim229 7 місяців тому +1

      A referendum was given to change the voting system by Cameron, hardly anyone turned out to vote and those that did voted overwhelmingly for the status quo, did you go and vote ?

    • @vmoses1979
      @vmoses1979 7 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely. But the 2 party system will never relinquish power of first past the post.

    • @joaquimioakim229
      @joaquimioakim229 7 місяців тому

      @@vmoses1979 Never say never!

    • @simonc5624
      @simonc5624 7 місяців тому +2

      @@vmoses1979 Yip one of the best changes in NZ in my lifetime is the change to MMP proportional representation. And yes to get it over the line there had to be a well-organised apolitical campaign set up to push it because both our main parties opposed it. That's what's needed in the UK as well. You need the minor parties + NGOs to come together and campaign for it cos the other two won't.

    • @vmoses1979
      @vmoses1979 7 місяців тому +1

      @@simonc5624 Unfortunately that hasn't helped the cost of living and especially housing prices there. A beautiful country the size of the UK with only 5 million people and house prices are higher than the UK. Huge mismanagement going on there that proportional representation, a more democratic system, hasn't managed to solve. The thing is people will discard democracy if it can't address basic issues like housing. People would rather have a Chinese style authoritarian government if it can actually build homes at affordable prices.

  • @tomsemmens6275
    @tomsemmens6275 7 місяців тому +37

    The likes of the BBC will never admit it but democracy is on notice in the UK.

  • @Willopo100
    @Willopo100 7 місяців тому +2

    the denial in the comments is crazy. people are ignoring younger people opinions on immigration. cope harder

  • @DK-pn8bd
    @DK-pn8bd 7 місяців тому +11

    The gentleman at 15:00 was a bit of a breath of fresh air.

  • @lanehewitt7685
    @lanehewitt7685 7 місяців тому +9

    Come to Seaham. We had the first Labour PM, we were a cauldron of socialism and communism. Not far from Akehursts constituency. UKIP/Brexit/Reform have been targeting the apathy here and fomenting populism for years. I'll even make you a cuppa.

  • @patcampton7163
    @patcampton7163 7 місяців тому +30

    It's longer than 14 years. Started in 1979, with brief respite in 1997.

    • @AtheistEve
      @AtheistEve 7 місяців тому

      Blair sold off much of the NHS and schools and took us into an illegal war. No respite.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 7 місяців тому +2

      1997 when the war criminal destroyed uk.

    • @david-pb4bi
      @david-pb4bi 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jake751Surprised you are not blaming Corbyn, you are scraping that far down the barrel.

    • @AtheistEve
      @AtheistEve 7 місяців тому

      -

  • @TwiztedEU
    @TwiztedEU 7 місяців тому +83

    The socialist bloke fucking sums it up completely.

    • @azumishimizu1880
      @azumishimizu1880 7 місяців тому +2

      So you want a dictator ? You guys have literally zero clue what that means!

    • @SashaAIex
      @SashaAIex 7 місяців тому +4

      @@azumishimizu1880 Reform all the way baby!

    • @Dalabombana
      @Dalabombana 7 місяців тому

      @@azumishimizu1880socialism or communism? Can you make a distinction?

    • @azumishimizu1880
      @azumishimizu1880 7 місяців тому

      @@SashaAIex Idk how that is relevant to my statement? Reform doesnt want a dictator.

  • @DrDanWeaver
    @DrDanWeaver 7 місяців тому +1

    Great interviewing and interviewee @ 12:30 enjoyable and lovely ending.

  • @patcampton7163
    @patcampton7163 7 місяців тому +197

    The failing education system is quite obvious as well. What a sad state..

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 7 місяців тому +2

      yeah left leaning government schools ??? why you think private better

    • @RealDareel
      @RealDareel 7 місяців тому

      Our young people are far less right leaning than other countries in Europe

    • @democraticman3602
      @democraticman3602 7 місяців тому +8

      Yes, it's the conservative education we're teaching.

    • @harveybrown37
      @harveybrown37 7 місяців тому

      The Tories have slashed money from Education in real terms and Gove was more interested in children learning about long since dead Kings than Politics.

    • @brandon_youtube
      @brandon_youtube 7 місяців тому +8

      Failing education is ground zero. UK talks of productivity but doesn't invest in people to create an educated productive nation. That's really stupid.

  • @biscuit4259
    @biscuit4259 7 місяців тому +236

    Love an old socialist.

    • @vincetownsend2514
      @vincetownsend2514 7 місяців тому +18

      He was a guy I could really relate to! And the Super Dry man.

    • @alexanderfuchs8742
      @alexanderfuchs8742 7 місяців тому +7

      except for wanting to risk nuclear war he seemed chill

    • @jessicamilestone4026
      @jessicamilestone4026 7 місяців тому +4

      He was brilliant. Someone I could honestly say, I'd be happy to chat witg for hours.

    • @Bobmudu35UK
      @Bobmudu35UK 7 місяців тому +3

      He seemed to have a soft spot for dictatorships.
      Naive old fool.

    • @montaguewithnail6372
      @montaguewithnail6372 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Bobmudu35UK Bastani should have shown him the picture of Starmer looking like Stalin and maybe he would've voted Labour.

  • @Cromwell648
    @Cromwell648 7 місяців тому +11

    Apparently the people of Chichester live in a dream- world.
    One where Sunak,"is doing a good job".
    Sad 😢deluded people 😢.

  • @jcanyiam8309
    @jcanyiam8309 7 місяців тому +67

    14 years of Tory Government has taken HOPE & HONESTY out of the British people. Very very sad!!!

    • @JohnJones-k9d
      @JohnJones-k9d 7 місяців тому

      It’s 30 years of dishonest self serving politicians from all parties.

    • @rosemorgan7503
      @rosemorgan7503 7 місяців тому +8

      More like 50 years of Tory leaders from both sides of the house

  • @HkFinn83
    @HkFinn83 7 місяців тому +8

    As somebody who’s never been to Sussex and never likely will, this is fascinating.

  • @Krutamuzyka
    @Krutamuzyka 7 місяців тому +12

    Come to Basingstoke. "Safe" Tory seat, but poor infrastructure, high population growth... more working class than Chichester. Could be interesting. Plus they elected the first WEP councillor!

  • @bilbobaggins5752
    @bilbobaggins5752 7 місяців тому +72

    I just want to listen to that old socialist for an hour

    • @Bobmudu35UK
      @Bobmudu35UK 7 місяців тому +7

      The one with a soft spot for dictatorships?

    • @SwedishEmpire1700
      @SwedishEmpire1700 7 місяців тому

      @@Bobmudu35UK Communists always love Dear Leader

    • @gamerknown
      @gamerknown 7 місяців тому +1

      @@SwedishEmpire1700not kropotkin

    • @stephanguitar9778
      @stephanguitar9778 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Bobmudu35UKThat's the Farage devotees

  • @azy83
    @azy83 7 місяців тому +8

    Come to Glasgow and find out how people really feel about Labour

  • @specters_art
    @specters_art 7 місяців тому +2

    12:41 this guy is right about so many things and you can feel how defeated he is by broken promises. We need to create a world for him to be proud of but for ourselves and future generations.

  • @robertstraw9881
    @robertstraw9881 7 місяців тому +6

    Try Sunderland. The first place to declare for Brexit. See how they’re feeling 8 years on.

  • @colincampbell4261
    @colincampbell4261 7 місяців тому +8

    Reform plc - these young uns need some education. TicToc gen, Frightening!

  • @rich24h
    @rich24h 7 місяців тому +81

    The young kid mixed race thinking the Farage wants him in England.

    • @neilmccarty944
      @neilmccarty944 7 місяців тому +24

      think he is more worried the seagulls are going to steal his goolies the way he is hanging onto them

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 7 місяців тому

      Beloq is a 🤡

    • @vietashroffoliver2521
      @vietashroffoliver2521 7 місяців тому

      @@neilmccarty944😂😂😂

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 7 місяців тому +1

      It’s like communism, they are desperate and feel poor and hopeless. Any promises of hope will latch. Like how Brexit worked

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 7 місяців тому

      @rich24h yes accuse people of racism so you can just ignore what they are actually saying. And then when non-whites do actually listen to what is said accuse them of being idiots. Wonderful strategy.

  • @mrcreosote3808
    @mrcreosote3808 7 місяців тому +178

    I was completely baffled why teenagers were advocating reform, and then the word 'TikTok' and it all made sense.

    • @belbrighton6479
      @belbrighton6479 7 місяців тому

      My god Reform is all the young people can talk about. They are definitely paying young people to chat to other young people on line to sway their votes. It is really scary stuff.

    • @Skygrey2943
      @Skygrey2943 7 місяців тому +35

      I think the radical right have dominated gaming spaces for a long time now. Also, Farage and to the lesser extent, the Tories have understood that many see 'working class' as a cultural identity rather than a socio-economic class in relation to the means of production.

    • @c.j.griffin
      @c.j.griffin 7 місяців тому +52

      I'm saying this as an elder Gen Z -- almost every single TikTok relating to the General Election is flooded with Reform UK bots in the comments, advocating for the party.

    • @joh22293
      @joh22293 7 місяців тому +7

      @@c.j.griffin And on YT in places like Sky News.

    • @Mark-Catz
      @Mark-Catz 7 місяців тому

      The left need to stop being so fucking useless at social media.

  • @bbtheonetruegod
    @bbtheonetruegod 7 місяців тому +1

    Go to Hereford. You will see a lot

  • @michaelservice4074
    @michaelservice4074 7 місяців тому +5

    Plenty of boiling frogs still around.

  • @AGerm332
    @AGerm332 7 місяців тому +14

    And this is the best thing that can happen for the tories.
    FPTP working exactly as designed.
    To keep the voter away from voting and to keep the rich and influential in power forever.
    FPTP once again working exactly as designed.

  • @DomingoDeSantaClara
    @DomingoDeSantaClara 7 місяців тому +4

    I last voted in in the 80s, i gave up on the political system back then, in the 40 years since I've seen nothing to change my mind.

  • @JaveyEL6369
    @JaveyEL6369 7 місяців тому +318

    Never underestimate the gullibility of the average Tory voter 😢

    • @jake751
      @jake751 7 місяців тому

      Reform ones are worse.

    • @ninjafotos
      @ninjafotos 7 місяців тому +16

      Or TikTok user

    • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
      @oldishandwoke-ish1181 7 місяців тому

      They SO want to be members of the rich and posh set - to the manor born - and they never will be!! Please Boris, make it come true!

    • @richardmays4584
      @richardmays4584 7 місяців тому +3

      Did you know the word "Gullible" has been removed from the dictionary

    • @mcooley88
      @mcooley88 7 місяців тому +3

      As thick as mince

  • @maxswp
    @maxswp 7 місяців тому +1

    Monarchy in the UK

  • @darrenhamilton5859
    @darrenhamilton5859 7 місяців тому +21

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the lady in the red coat is obviously living on a different planet

    • @Idcanymore510
      @Idcanymore510 7 місяців тому +3

      Cloud Cuckoo Land, somewhere in the outer reaches of the galaxy.

  • @nickmaria3188
    @nickmaria3188 7 місяців тому +273

    Kids wanting to vote for reform after watching tik tok?
    Scary times!

    • @syleshwhycantileavethisbla802
      @syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 7 місяців тому +56

      The real scary part is when you start to wonder how such an omnipresent social media campaign like that is funded.

    • @ColinMaxwell-oc1ok
      @ColinMaxwell-oc1ok 7 місяців тому

      What's scary about that the fake news ie itv BBC have been feeding people lies for years your have to go elsewhere for the truth take your head out off your rear and wake up.....

    • @DameNelson
      @DameNelson 7 місяців тому +11

      sheep. I really hope not.

    • @symmo1969
      @symmo1969 7 місяців тому +31

      Kids aren't swayed simply by watching TikTok videos, they're swayed by commentary & arguments they're already predisposed to.

    • @OneEyedDronie
      @OneEyedDronie 7 місяців тому

      Beat me to say Tic Tok before the girl even mentioned it..... ignorant young people swayed by people and not facts.. .very sad ..

  • @amberdreams_0
    @amberdreams_0 7 місяців тому +11

    Wow so depressing to hear teenagers supporting Reform UK. That's just awful.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 7 місяців тому +1

      The propaganda of wealth.

    • @mclark667
      @mclark667 7 місяців тому +6

      wtf else are they supposed to do???

    • @valeriecamroux4197
      @valeriecamroux4197 7 місяців тому

      @@mclark667 what else are they supposed to do? Perhaps to look around them and stop bleating on about people that don't even live in their town. Mind you, I totally accept that they are encouraged by nearly every political party (ie except the Greens, ThenWorkers'mParty and Independents) to think that immigrants are the cause of every ill going. Education could be used to get young people to think critically, to examine media 'news' output. But no. Just prepare for the useless tests, keep the blinkers on … and wait for fascism.

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 7 місяців тому +2

      So happy to hear how upset you are with Gen Z waking up. You are all in for aa major shock 😁

    • @jaspermooren5883
      @jaspermooren5883 7 місяців тому +2

      Young people tend to be more extreme in both directions. I didn't find it surprising at all. Although these specific guys were particularly racist. Saying Britain has become hell just because sometimes you can see an outsider is frankly insane.
      Also the UK just doesn't have an immigration problem. Most other European countries have more immigration than the UK does.

  • @Lily-cl6zk
    @Lily-cl6zk 7 місяців тому +19

    i wonder what Reform is doing on tik tok, worth an analysis?

    • @kumstuke
      @kumstuke 7 місяців тому

      It's quite clear they bought many bots to type their rubbish out in the comments all over social media

    • @bear.b
      @bear.b 7 місяців тому

      they are the most active political party across all social media. The algorithm has targeted the correct echo chamber of young people susceptible to brainwashing.

    • @zapermunz
      @zapermunz 7 місяців тому +2

      Mr Putin's investment

  • @smcl8419
    @smcl8419 7 місяців тому +2

    Best vox pop i have seen in a long time.
    Want to buy a hot soup for the older socialist guy , loved his input.
    Really concerned about the youngsters and the tik tok thing.
    I expect youngsters to question and investigate , not act like lemmings.
    Great work Aaron.

  • @techsupport8236
    @techsupport8236 7 місяців тому

    Great episode! I'm really loving this peek at different Tory homelands, it's fascinating and I wish more media would do it in this style

  • @pms9838
    @pms9838 7 місяців тому +41

    The lad wanting reform, to benefit normal people really needs to read their manifesto.
    It will benefit the richest even more blatantly than the Tories

    • @ginost7
      @ginost7 7 місяців тому

      not a manifesto it is a contract, manifestos are used as toilet paper nowadays

  • @allmodcons2274
    @allmodcons2274 7 місяців тому +10

    Tories really have broken Britain 😢 Come to Newark-on-Trent...Jenricks haunting ground.

  • @fionakingston4715
    @fionakingston4715 7 місяців тому +3

    Have you thought of Northallerton. It’s a very wealthy old market town surrounded by farms and is allegedly one of the richest towns in the UK. It is also Rishi’s constituency. I know it well and can’t believe it would vote Labour.

  • @marxdrive
    @marxdrive 7 місяців тому +2

    Love the series. I would like to hear what the Labour heartlands are saying, especially in predominantly Asian communities - I wonder how many are not going to vote based, primarily, on the genocidal war in Palestine.

  • @Nimzzeee
    @Nimzzeee 7 місяців тому +1

    I love this series of videos. I really hope this format sticks around. Unfiltered opinion, no judgement, no putting words into peoples mouths, just letting the people have their say. 👍

  • @leedowner2249
    @leedowner2249 7 місяців тому +28

    "Bourgeois democracy, although a great historical advance in comparison with medievalism, always remains, and under capitalism is bound to remain, restricted, truncated, false and hypocritical, a paradise for the rich and a snare and deception for the exploited, for the poor."
    - Vladimir Lenin
    Your choices are red capitalism or blue capitalism, either way if you're working class your standards will continue to fall because that's exactly how capitalism is supposed to work

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 7 місяців тому

      the government exploits you communist leaders are worse

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 7 місяців тому

      Well Lenin knew a bit about exploiting people. The Soviet record is there for all to see

    • @Bward888
      @Bward888 7 місяців тому

      I fully agree, but for some reason, many on the left of things seem absolutely unable to let go of supporting mass immigration, despite it being a very obvious tool for capitalists to drive down labour costs and break the kind of natural racial and cultural solidarity that makes unionisation a risk. It's no coincidence that every gigantic capitalist entity also supports immigration and bourgeois progressive social causes.

    • @zapermunz
      @zapermunz 7 місяців тому +1

      We've had the lessons of revolutionaries of old for decades and we abandoned them and now it's coming around again. Liberalism in the 1930's gave us fascist dictators and now in the 2030's we're close to making the same mistakes.
      Let's not let the spark of revolution die or be killed.

  • @cantrellisgod
    @cantrellisgod 7 місяців тому +22

    People talking about reform like they're the new true party of labour and the working class... Scary.

    • @brassidium7686
      @brassidium7686 7 місяців тому

      They are all new and thus yet to be corrupted

    • @zapermunz
      @zapermunz 7 місяців тому +1

      The last time reactionaries cooped left-wing rhetoric and talking points we got funny mustache man

  • @TheAdio26
    @TheAdio26 7 місяців тому +7

    Well, that was both depressing and terrifying.

  • @etienne8110
    @etienne8110 7 місяців тому +1

    Thing is generations have seen alternating parties with yet no changes in politics...
    What s the diff between blair, cameron, Johnson ? It s all the same. And the next labour is promising to be just as bad as sunak.
    So why bother voting if the game is crooked?

  • @daveuk1324
    @daveuk1324 7 місяців тому +1

    CCP, Putin et al will be clapping to high heaven 😮😮😮😮😮

  • @adamtovey8721
    @adamtovey8721 7 місяців тому +59

    The turkeys complaining that they voted for Christmas. It would be funny if it wasnt so tragic

    • @hsthatzo8063
      @hsthatzo8063 7 місяців тому +2

      Well it's either vote for christmas or thanksgiving, have fun, jury duty voters!

  • @krautsky
    @krautsky 7 місяців тому +14

    The problem is to think that what is called "representative" democracy has anything to do with real democracy. Those with the money=power will be representet. The rest has to obey.

    • @TheShortStory
      @TheShortStory 7 місяців тому

      It doesn’t have to be that way. Most representative democracies fare pretty well. But for historical and societal reasons the UK has got itself in a real, intractable mess

    • @dennismccarthy7032
      @dennismccarthy7032 7 місяців тому +2

      Make lobbying illegal

  • @herenow6953
    @herenow6953 7 місяців тому +4

    4:15 Woman in red jacket - loves Rishi. Love, he couldn't give a fluck about you - maybe you don't have children or grandchildren, but he's a big reason why THEY will struggle in life.

  • @Keithlfpieterse
    @Keithlfpieterse 7 місяців тому +2

    P.S. I hope the NOVARA team make it over to the Netherlands one day. I will be "at your service" as an unpaid local guide! KEEP WELL!

  • @sandrafrancis3631
    @sandrafrancis3631 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm a bit shocked by this video. I've been to Chichester, it's pretty and very middle class and a bit boring i thought, except for the Cathedral and arts centre. Never thought people there would be saying such things! Shocked by the young guys pro Reform and against immigration!?.....places to go next? Winchester is simular, i've been there too, it's more expensive a place to live than Chichester. I think lib dems are hoping to take it? Tunbridge Wells? Usually Tory but might go lib dems? Much closer to London than the other two places, lots of londoners move in, making it more likely to go lib dems?