Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Years ago, I had the opportunity to shoot an original 1873 rifle, dated from around 1880. Caliber was .38-40. 24" octagonal barrel, like yours. Pretty accurate out to 100 yards, too. Today, I shoot an Uberti reproduction, chambered in .44-40. My go-to rifle for 'cowboy' silhouette competition. The 1873 is a great lever rifle for the sport. Thanks for the review.
I have the Uberti 1860 Henry Rifle in brass and steel, 1866 brass, 1873, 30" barrel. All in .44-40 WCF. Joy to shoot and easy to clean. The slightly necked brass expands when fired to keep most of the fouling in the barrel and very little escapes into the breech/elevator areas, unlike straight walled cases like 45 Colt, 45-70, and 50-70.
Very informative video, but more than that it was very well done. You either have a lot of experience as an instructor or are a natural in front of a camera. Very concise video with no choppy editing. I own same rifle. Uberti Sporting Special in .45 LC. You've inspired me to finally install the Marples tang site I bought 10+ years ago when I bought the rifle. Thanks for posting a very informative video. BTW, nice shooting!!!
Great video and some fine shooting! You are so right about the Uberti lever guns. I have 3 reproductions. An 1860 Henry and 1866 Winchester in .45LC and the 1873 in .44-40. Everyone one of them looks great and are a joy to shoot!
Hi Great rifles 1873 Uberti Winchesters,Love them. I have one in 44-40 30 inch Octagonal Barrel .Shoots 2 inch groups at one meters with open sights 36 grains of 2ff Swiss 220 grain one in forty lead tin mix projectile .Cheers from Australia
I have that same rifle in 38/357 for cowboy action. I smoothed and polished all the internals so it runs buttery smooth. I shoot reduced loads in 38, also for my 1973 Uberti colts. Still running the buckhorn sites. Have to compensate a little but it'll shoot accurately to 100 yards
I’m looking into getting a 1876 full stock replica Winchester in 45/60 like Tom Sellick used in Crossfire Trail. Fired a friends. Nice rifle and nice shooter.
Just got mine this week and love it and what a hansome 44-40/ 24 in. lever action it is. I ordered the ladder site instead. One thing though, I thought the movie's plot was great the way Jimmy Stewart came close to getting hs back until he did in the end. I love to see Dan Duryea in Westerns as the happy villian.
I have a Uberti 1873 "Cimarron" in 45 colt. 18" carbine. Bit more balanced, very accurate with Buckhorn sights. Gotta love it. Yours is heavy for sure. Recoil is not an issue. Can shoot all day. Nice Demonstration.
100 yards with a .45colt load??? That's impressive! The only Uberti I own is a 1873 cattlemen in .45colt 51/2 barrel & it is an impressive revolver,I guess I need to save my nickles & dimes to get me an 1873 Winchester! That is an impressive shooter!
Just got one like his. Beautiful rifle. Cimarron did a good job of getting Uberti to make them as period perfect as possible. Mine like his is in 45 colt same as my 1873 frontier revolver by Pietta. Both companies owned by Beretta.
I have tried powder coat and HT coat (I cast most all of my bullets) I have found that the HT coat is better in a few ways. One... the PC seems to leave more plastic behind.. and slightly harder to make. also you can purchase HT coat bullets from several casters. Love shooting sodas LOL
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
I've been wanting one of these 1873's for years, I do have the Uberti 1866 in .45 Colt. I have a question though, if these 1873's are available in .44 Mag (not sure if they are) then why would +P .45 Colt be bad for it?
Same reason why Elmer Keith chose .44 Special instead of .45 Colt for his early experiments with magnum loadings. A little more "meat" - same external dimensions, smaller internal diameter of the chamber. Even if a 1873 Winchester clone is in .44 Mag, I would not shoot "full house" ammo too many times. Yes, it can probably handle it several times, even with the overpressure proofing rounds (130% pressure in CIP countries), yet the pins of the toggle link action are not very strong and after prolonged use with .44 Mag loads, some deformation is a possibility. This is a gun originally designed for Black Powder. If one needs a .44 Mag ready levergun, there are safer options like 1892 / 1894 clones or Marlins. The .44 Mag variant of the 1873 rifle appears in old catalogues, yet the current lineup is limited to .45 Colt and .357 Mag. Maybe there is a reason for this. The .357 Mag exerts less force on the bolt because of its smaller diameter (and thus cross-sectional area). Plus the new, weaker SAAMI pressure limit of 34,000 psi.
They are also available in a 44-40 which is slightly faster and is in fact the original chambering for this rifle in 1873 in black powder. That cartridge was originally called the Winchester Center Fire or 44WCF. The 44-40 Uberti's 1873 will handle any modern loading 44-40 cartridges. They have more than adequate power for deer size game out to 100 yards in any of the three chamberings.
I have an old Navy Arms 30" barrel 'sportsman' 1873 clone it is made in Italy also but maybe in the 80's? it is gorgeous and in 44-40 and extremely accurate. I also have a lot of Uberti guns (revolvers) in percussion and 1873 versions. The quality today is outstanding. I have heard it was not always the case. An 1873 in 45 Colt tho? kinda not for me. I handload and yes... they 44-40 is harder to handload for but... who cares? it is a rifle I don't shoot all that often in any case. 300 rounds carefully done are plenty for a year or so.
Where did you get your information on loads for the Uberti? How can you emphasize the quality of Uberti, if you're telling me they stamp .357magnum on their rifles, but they can't handle them? If you are reading your book on original Winchester 73s, those specs are not for your current production rifle. Any standard off the shelf ammo should be fine in that rifle, with the correct shaped bullet.
It absolutely handles 375mag factory loads. The metals used in firearms today are far stronger than they were back in 1872 when the patent was submitted. The "case hardened" finish is done via an acid bath on much stronger , not actual case hardening. Uberti rated these rifles for factory 357magnum. There is a reason they rated and stamped it for such, and not just 38special.
I have a henry in 357. Heard the 1873 toggle was weak. Is it really? Would like the 1873, but concerned due to the reputation of 'A weak toggle'... thx
I shot a deer running wide open between the ears at 75 yards with my Marlin 30-30 from my deer stand. I credit that skill for hitting small fast moving targets to the many years of skeet shooting and duck hunting. Muscle memory and practice.🍷😎👌
I bought That very rifle in .38spl.Everything OK but the trigger was horrendously heavy.Had my gunsmith customize it to normal and also removed the blocking mechanism as it is totally unnccesary for sport schooting.Really like "western" guns so I shoot replica's of them.
I find the modern Winchester brand of these to be nicer rifles. Better fitting, better machining, nicer wood, nicer case hardening etc. The money difference is so small I think the Winchester is the better deal.
@Dan Ramzinski Comparing two rifles side by side and making claims that are supposed to apply to all does not work. You can buy two rifles of the same make and model and their accuracy will be different. Happens all the time. Glad you like your Uberti.
@@brianmoore1164 go to Hickcock45: Winchester 1873 current production, got this rifle to review. Very nice rifle,but certainly not as you described them. He pointed out the oversized wood on all joints, color case finish actually coming off,also rear sight seamed to be adjusted all the way up, but still hitting low. He was shooting off hand so maybe that was it. If he had received two, I guess the second one would not have those issues.
@Dan Ramzinski Perhaps not, but you see, I am a machinist so I look at things a bit differently. Take a half a dozen of them apart and compare the construction, machining, fitting, and part quality and you end up seeing things considerably differently. I would point out that a guy who makes his money from having a large audience will play to the majority of his audience every time. Their payday depends on it. I thankfully am blessed with the ability to make up my own mind. Worth mentioning here that my opinion has zero to do with what I have in my safe. You see, I don't have an off the rack Winchester so I am bias free. My 73 Winchester is a Turnbull.
They will shoot standard colt .45 loads (SAMMI) but NOT the +P loads (which are not standard). The 1873 is also available in .357 Magnum, however different steels are used to handle the increased pressure. The original 1873 was designed for up to 22,000 psi. Some pistol cartridges today (different caliber) run up to 60,000 psi. It's all in the design of the firearm. The 1873, of course, is an old design and used relatively soft steels. The original 1873 did not come in .45 colt cartridge, but rather the 44-40 cartridge (which are hard to buy).
@@dickgoesinya9419 , And Uberti is made in Italy but neither has the trap door in the butt plate for a cleaning rod like the originals. The ‘76 Uberti does have it so why not the ‘73?
haha this old timer shoots exactly like he would of been taught at anytime prior to the Iraq war lol. Holds the gun exactly how we're trained not to hold rifles anymore
Turns out to be a horribly dangerous setup! Gun can not be unloaded when chamber is blocked for whatever reason ( in my case : a broken cartridge was not ejected ) rest of the cartridges will stay in tube magazine and gun has to be completely dismanteld for extraction! Very poor setup,Marlin does the better job by providing tube unloading gate ! Be advised!
dude it's a design that's 150 years old. When you tilt a 1894 Marlin to the side during the loading cycle the live round will fall out on the ground. Yes, Marlins are so nice they went out of business. Remington made them long enough to ruin the reputation of them and let's see how long Ruger makes em.
Leverguns are finnicy and the uberti is unsafe.in case of stuck casing unloading is impossible and gun has to be dismantled to unload mag.beautiful but dangerous!
The 1866's receiver wasn't brass. They were made of bronze, called in its day, gunmetal. Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. Bronze is copper and tin, much stronger than brass.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Years ago, I had the opportunity to shoot an original 1873 rifle, dated from around 1880. Caliber was .38-40. 24" octagonal barrel, like yours. Pretty accurate out to 100 yards, too. Today, I shoot an Uberti reproduction, chambered in .44-40. My go-to rifle for 'cowboy' silhouette competition. The 1873 is a great lever rifle for the sport. Thanks for the review.
You're welcome Cal. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment.
I have the Uberti 1860 Henry Rifle in brass and steel, 1866 brass, 1873, 30" barrel. All in .44-40 WCF.
Joy to shoot and easy to clean. The slightly necked brass expands when fired to keep most of the fouling in the barrel and very little escapes into the breech/elevator areas, unlike straight walled cases like 45 Colt, 45-70, and 50-70.
Really great video.
I enjoyed you talking about how this rifle works.
Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed the video Rushedanddlost. Thanks for the comment.
It is a beautiful gun, my favorite is the 1886 in 50 CAL
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
My favorite Ice Cream is Chocolate but who cares because this is a Win 1873 review.
Very informative video, but more than that it was very well done. You either have a lot of experience as an instructor or are a natural in front of a camera. Very concise video with no choppy editing.
I own same rifle. Uberti Sporting Special in .45 LC. You've inspired me to finally install the Marples tang site I bought 10+ years ago when I bought the rifle.
Thanks for posting a very informative video. BTW, nice shooting!!!
Great video and some fine shooting! You are so right about the Uberti lever guns. I have 3 reproductions. An 1860 Henry and 1866 Winchester in .45LC and the 1873 in .44-40. Everyone one of them looks great and are a joy to shoot!
I'd like one in .38 special, to go with a pair of Army conversons.
Thanks for the comment ChuckVT.
You are hell on wheels shooting that rifle! Great video!
Great video … I have the Winchester (modern) version of this. My brother in law has the same rifle as you only in 38-40 Win. Both great guns!
Thanks for the comment Tac Man!
What a Beautiful rifle! ❤️
Yes it is !! Thanks Carol.
Nice shooting. Rifle looks great. Have two. 1866 and 1892 in 38 and 357. You convinced me 1873 im 45 LC.
Right on. Thanks A Austria.
I have one, also in .45 LC. Great shooter, great fun.
Right on. Thanks for the comment Ed.
Hi Great rifles 1873 Uberti Winchesters,Love them. I have one in 44-40 30 inch Octagonal Barrel .Shoots 2 inch groups at one meters with open sights 36 grains of 2ff Swiss 220 grain one in forty lead tin mix projectile .Cheers from Australia
Thank you Sir, I like accurate rifles of any era!
Right on. Thanks!
I have that same rifle in 38/357 for cowboy action. I smoothed and polished all the internals so it runs buttery smooth. I shoot reduced loads in 38, also for my 1973 Uberti colts. Still running the buckhorn sites. Have to compensate a little but it'll shoot accurately to 100 yards
I’m looking into getting a 1876 full stock replica Winchester in 45/60 like Tom Sellick used in Crossfire Trail. Fired a friends. Nice rifle and nice shooter.
Just got mine this week and love it and what a hansome 44-40/ 24 in. lever action it is. I ordered the ladder site instead. One thing though, I thought the movie's plot was great the way Jimmy Stewart came close to getting hs back until he did in the end. I love to see Dan Duryea in Westerns as the happy villian.
I have a Uberti 1873 "Cimarron" in 45 colt. 18" carbine. Bit more balanced, very accurate with Buckhorn sights. Gotta love it. Yours is heavy for sure. Recoil is not an issue. Can shoot all day. Nice Demonstration.
100 yards with a .45colt load??? That's impressive! The only Uberti I own is a 1873 cattlemen in .45colt 51/2 barrel & it is an impressive revolver,I guess I need to save my nickles & dimes to get me an 1873 Winchester! That is an impressive shooter!
Just got one like his. Beautiful rifle. Cimarron did a good job of getting Uberti to make them as period perfect as possible. Mine like his is in 45 colt same as my 1873 frontier revolver by Pietta. Both companies owned by Beretta.
I have tried powder coat and HT coat (I cast most all of my bullets) I have found that the HT coat is better in a few ways. One... the PC seems to leave more plastic behind.. and slightly harder to make. also you can purchase HT coat bullets from several casters. Love shooting sodas LOL
WOW ~ 雖然是 老槍 + 老傢伙 但槍法射擊準度依然一點都不輸現代槍 & 少年人 ! 超酷的 ! 很棒的 Video ! ! !
Great video, Ron!
Glad you enjoyed it Chris.
Where in general are there clubs in AZ that shoot silhouette? Phoenix? More Northern AZ? Thanks for the vid!
Tucson Rifle Club does one every 2nd Saturday.
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Beautiful Rifle !!
Yes it is!
I thought the movie Winchester '73 had a damn good plot. Better than the Hollywood movies of today.
Who did you have install the tang sight?
Nice video, Ron.
I've been wanting one of these 1873's for years, I do have the Uberti 1866 in .45 Colt. I have a question though, if these 1873's are available in .44 Mag (not sure if they are) then why would +P .45 Colt be bad for it?
Same reason why Elmer Keith chose .44 Special instead of .45 Colt for his early experiments with magnum loadings. A little more "meat" - same external dimensions, smaller internal diameter of the chamber.
Even if a 1873 Winchester clone is in .44 Mag, I would not shoot "full house" ammo too many times. Yes, it can probably handle it several times, even with the overpressure proofing rounds (130% pressure in CIP countries), yet the pins of the toggle link action are not very strong and after prolonged use with .44 Mag loads, some deformation is a possibility. This is a gun originally designed for Black Powder. If one needs a .44 Mag ready levergun, there are safer options like 1892 / 1894 clones or Marlins. The .44 Mag variant of the 1873 rifle appears in old catalogues, yet the current lineup is limited to .45 Colt and .357 Mag. Maybe there is a reason for this. The .357 Mag exerts less force on the bolt because of its smaller diameter (and thus cross-sectional area). Plus the new, weaker SAAMI pressure limit of 34,000 psi.
They are also available in a 44-40 which is slightly faster and is in fact the original chambering for this rifle in 1873 in black powder. That cartridge was originally called the Winchester Center Fire or 44WCF.
The 44-40 Uberti's 1873 will handle any modern loading 44-40 cartridges.
They have more than adequate power for deer size game out to 100 yards in any of the three chamberings.
Can you shoot regular factory loaded stuff or do you have to shoot cowboy loads? I understand no +P loads is a no no.
factory 357 mag is fine
I have an old Navy Arms 30" barrel 'sportsman' 1873 clone it is made in Italy also but maybe in the 80's? it is gorgeous and in 44-40 and extremely accurate. I also have a lot of Uberti guns (revolvers) in percussion and 1873 versions. The quality today is outstanding. I have heard it was not always the case. An 1873 in 45 Colt tho? kinda not for me. I handload and yes... they 44-40 is harder to handload for but... who cares? it is a rifle I don't shoot all that often in any case. 300 rounds carefully done are plenty for a year or so.
Where did you get your information on loads for the Uberti? How can you emphasize the quality of Uberti, if you're telling me they stamp .357magnum on their rifles, but they can't handle them? If you are reading your book on original Winchester 73s, those specs are not for your current production rifle. Any standard off the shelf ammo should be fine in that rifle, with the correct shaped bullet.
It absolutely handles 375mag factory loads. The metals used in firearms today are far stronger than they were back in 1872 when the patent was submitted. The "case hardened" finish is done via an acid bath on much stronger , not actual case hardening. Uberti rated these rifles for factory 357magnum. There is a reason they rated and stamped it for such, and not just 38special.
I miss my one. Best rifle I ever shot
I’ve seen some Italian made 73s in 44 magnum
Yes Sir.
So.. Is he talking about the Uberti replica or a Winchester?
I'm on the fence on a uberti or miroku 73 , but nobody can give me a straight answer, witch is better
Thank you Sir!
Mines the Rossi 44 magnum or special but this gun looks like a 22 cal.great for hunting deer in tight spots.
We reviewed a Rossi a few weeks ago. Great gun! ua-cam.com/video/CdpXtZwRYU0/v-deo.html
I have a henry in 357. Heard the 1873 toggle was weak. Is it really? Would like the 1873, but concerned due to the reputation of 'A weak toggle'... thx
Got one myself. In 357 magnum.
Very nice.
Thanks. 🙂
I shot a deer running wide open between the ears at 75 yards with my Marlin 30-30 from my deer stand. I credit that skill for hitting small fast moving targets to the many years of skeet shooting and duck hunting. Muscle memory and practice.🍷😎👌
I bought That very rifle in .38spl.Everything OK but the trigger was horrendously heavy.Had my gunsmith customize it to normal and also removed the blocking mechanism as it is totally unnccesary for sport schooting.Really like "western" guns so I shoot replica's of them.
Nice rifle.
Yes Sir.
GREAT!
I have that exact rifle
Thanks for sharing.
I find the modern Winchester brand of these to be nicer rifles. Better fitting, better machining, nicer wood, nicer case hardening etc. The money difference is so small I think the Winchester is the better deal.
Great comment. Thanks Brian.
No disrespect, but I disagree, the Uberti is nicer in every way and definitely more accurate. Shot both side by side.
@Dan Ramzinski Comparing two rifles side by side and making claims that are supposed to apply to all does not work. You can buy two rifles of the same make and model and their accuracy will be different. Happens all the time. Glad you like your Uberti.
@@brianmoore1164 go to Hickcock45: Winchester 1873 current production, got this rifle to review. Very nice rifle,but certainly not as you described them. He pointed out the oversized wood on all joints, color case finish actually coming off,also rear sight seamed to be adjusted all the way up, but still hitting low. He was shooting off hand so maybe that was it. If he had received two, I guess the second one would not have those issues.
@Dan Ramzinski Perhaps not, but you see, I am a machinist so I look at things a bit differently. Take a half a dozen of them apart and compare the construction, machining, fitting, and part quality and you end up seeing things considerably differently. I would point out that a guy who makes his money from having a large audience will play to the majority of his audience every time. Their payday depends on it. I thankfully am blessed with the ability to make up my own mind. Worth mentioning here that my opinion has zero to do with what I have in my safe. You see, I don't have an off the rack Winchester so I am bias free. My 73 Winchester is a Turnbull.
Why won’t it shoot standard loads?
They will shoot standard colt .45 loads (SAMMI) but NOT the +P loads (which are not standard). The 1873 is also available in .357 Magnum, however different steels are used to handle the increased pressure. The original 1873 was designed for up to 22,000 psi. Some pistol cartridges today (different caliber) run up to 60,000 psi. It's all in the design of the firearm. The 1873, of course, is an old design and used relatively soft steels. The original 1873 did not come in .45 colt cartridge, but rather the 44-40 cartridge (which are hard to buy).
What kind of groups does that 45 shoot at 100 yards?
I have the Miroku 73 in 44-40. In my opinion it loses authenticity points if it’s not an original caliber.
might lose a point or two being made in japan as well.
@@dickgoesinya9419 , And Uberti is made in Italy but neither has the trap door in the butt plate for a cleaning rod like the originals. The ‘76 Uberti does have it so why not the ‘73?
@@davidgardner863 This reminds me of the guy wondering why he can't wear white after Labor Day.
You had me till you said 6lbs. Nice review, 7lbs
haha this old timer shoots exactly like he would of been taught at anytime prior to the Iraq war lol. Holds the gun exactly how we're trained not to hold rifles anymore
Turns out to be a horribly dangerous setup! Gun can not be unloaded when chamber is blocked for whatever reason ( in my case : a broken cartridge was not ejected ) rest of the cartridges will stay in tube magazine and gun has to be completely dismanteld for extraction! Very poor setup,Marlin does the better job by providing tube unloading gate ! Be advised!
dude it's a design that's 150 years old. When you tilt a 1894 Marlin to the side during the loading cycle the live round will fall out on the ground. Yes, Marlins are so nice they went out of business. Remington made them long enough to ruin the reputation of them and let's see how long Ruger makes em.
Leverguns are finnicy and the uberti is unsafe.in case of stuck casing unloading is impossible and gun has to be dismantled to unload mag.beautiful but dangerous!
First!🇷🇺
Second, from North Korea.
The 1866's receiver wasn't brass. They were made of bronze, called in its day, gunmetal.
Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. Bronze is copper and tin, much stronger than brass.
Points 12 inch’s down and says 20 it’s would be here. But this is a 24. 😂
I have that exact rifle
Very nice.