The longer pin on the Uberti is used for a safety. If you push it in to the second notch it will protrude from the back of the frame and act as a hammer block to prevent the firing pin from being able to contact a cartridge beneath it if the hammer is inadvertently struck. .
I only use it if I have it stored loaded with 6 rounds instead of 5. But even though they have the floating fire pin they can still fire if handled improperly, but I keep mine with one empty cylinder just as a precaution.
Great overview. I've owned a Ruger Vaquero for about 25 years but it's just been a safe queen while I've done the majority of my shooting with modern semi autos. Now that I've recently retired, I've developed a new interest in the SA revolvers. I just bought two Taylor Ubertis over the last few months and I absolutely love them. I'm learning all I can about the history of the guns and your video is a great bit of info.
One of the absolute best single action videos I've ever seen! You know the gun inside & out, you don't stumble in your explanations about parts & the guns operation because you know it. So many UA-camrs will make a video without even knowing what the 1st detent on the hammer radius is or can even tell you what's happening as you cock the gun. Just a great video!
What did you wind up with? Gotta love the gun store scene in that movie. 1 of my all time favorite scenes. That and when he duels Ace calling him out for taking the credit of all his kills.
@@josephcarr2742 Absolutely. I foolishly sold my Uberti to a gun store. It had the Colt-type black grips with a rampant Colt. I got $350 for it. I only had about $300 in it. Realized later the cranky old man (of long experience) thought it was a Colt. Tell you anything?
I have used Uberti SAA clones for CAS. After thousands of rounds,, they proved to be sturdy. I never had any work done on them, and they became smoother over time. There was no undo wear on the ratchets or cones. They are good, solid revolvers, and at less cost than Rugers or Colts, they are a value product.
@@greeneking77 A large number use .38 Special, loaded to the required lower 750 fps. A few of the authentic shooters used the .44-40. A lot of it has to do with cost. A 2 day weekend match of 10 stages per day could run 200 rounds of pistol, 200 rifle, and upwards of 200 12 gauge. If you shoot every month, then are multiplying those numbers by 12, at least. Not to mention practicing in between. As far as .45LC, I would estimate maybe 1/8th of the shooters I ran into in over the 30 years I have been involved in the sport, used it. I made the switch in the early 2000s. But, for a practical reason: I was living in Alaska, and I used one of my pistols for a field gun for bears, backing up my 12 gauge.
I own a Uberti/Cimarron in .45 Colt. I like it a lot. So much so that I bought a lever carbine, 1892?!?, Winchester clone. Both firearms shoot well and are reasonably accurate. The carbine I had taken courtesy out to about 150. But it really works best between 50 and 100 yards. I use the revolver out to about 25 yards or so. Fun firearms. I enjoy your channel a lot.
Coming from a "man" as perverse as George Patton , that is a compliment . Mother of Pearl is always better than natural Ivory .Elephants are worth far more than Patton's fragile Ego .
I own two Uberti made Cimarron SAA's. The cylinder bushing in both of them are removable. A Pietta made Cimarron SAA I once owned had a cylinder bushing that was fixed. The Pietta had some serious problems, and I returned it, never to buy another one. The Uberti ones are really nice. I'm certainly keeping them!
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That Uberti pin is part of the safety mechanism. They call it "Cylinder Base Pin Safety". You wont be able to fire if you push the pin further because it will always block the hammer.
Excellent video here. I’ve been on the fence as to which one to buy. As a Colt 1911 collector I want the original Colt SAA but man are they pricey and rightfully so. It looks like a Cimmaron is in my near future. 🤠👍🏼
Great comparison, the only thing I saw that you didnt mention when discussing the cylinder pin on the Uberti is that the extra notch actually functions as a safety when put all the way in, and does not let the hammer to fall forward enough to allow the firing pinto strike the primer.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 What 75 is referring to is that original Ubertis had the Colt mechanics, but there is NO extra detent on the hammer radius. The import guns all have longer cylinder pins devised as a safety feature so that in some other reality you can load & carry 6rds safely without a fixed firing pin down on a primer. The other thing that Uberti has done is come up with a "Cattleman 2" version which has a hammer transfer bar (floating firing pin) that does allow for the safe carry of 6rds. Unlike a Ruger Vaquero 1 & 2, all functions are the same EXCEPT for the detents or notches in the hammer radius; there are now 3 instead of 4 because they lost the 1st click which was the safety which is no longer needed AND it did move the trigger further into the center of the trigger guard. As a purist, I won't own or buy a Ruger or a Uberti Cattleman 2; I want the original Colt mechanical design.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 back in the '80s I owned real Colts, but sold em for a car.....anyway those guns and my current Piettas are all tuned for thumbing fast draw by Bob James in Phoenix AZ. In addition to the tuning, Bob typically cuts the cylinder pins to Colt length for purely aesthetic appearance reasons. While I could but don't make these my carry-guns, I wouldn't load 6rds anyway, so the closer they are to Colts, the better. I do a train robbery here in southeast Missouri playing the part of Jesse James. Admittedly, it's more of a Hollywood cultural perception of the James Gang, but everyone relates to & recognizes that "Colt" revolver. Personally, I'm a Pietta man for many reasons; Uberti makes a 4 5/8" while a Pietta makes a correct 4 3/4", and the fit & finish of a Pietta seems a bit nicer to me, and finally the Pietta actions seems smoother than a standard Uberti. Just my preference.
Rollin White apparently did contract work for Colt’s and developed five patents around 1855, including Patent 12648 which was for an "Improvement in Repeating Fire-arms" Whitw approached Colt’s with his bored-through cylinder and was turned down due to problems (White used a paper cartridge resulting in chain-fires, among other issues). The next year, White signed an agreement granting Smith & Wesson the exclusive use of his patent for boring through the chambers, but not the rest of the patent. White retained a royalty rate of 25 cents for every revolver. Smith & Wesson developed White’s patent into a working revolver by coming up with the .22 rimfire cartridge utilizing a metal case containing the priming compound and black powder with the bullet seated in the end, eliminating the chain-fire problem. Smith & Wesson did not invent the bored-through cylinder, they found a way to make it useable.
Definitely one of the better SAA videos out there. I will add though that Patton would've taken umbrage with you stating that his gun had pearl handled grips. They were actually ivory. According to Patton, only a New Orleans pimp would carry a gun with pearl handled grips lol. At least as spoken by his character played by George C. Scott in the movie.
.38-40 is a massively underrated cartridge. I would get a replica chambered in it if I thought I could find the ammo. I also can’t abide choosing less than .45 in a Peacemaker.
@@cwbristow wtf no. My grandfather owned a Walther pocket pistol with pearl grips. His father bought it in 1915. Unfortunately the gun doesn't exist anymore.
During the war Patton was asked about those pearl grips and he responded " Only a New Orleans Pimp would have pearl grips on his pistol, these are ivory grips"
Cimarron uses both Uberti and pietta depending on which model of Cimarron firearm you're looking for. Cimarron models beginning with PP like PP 401, pp405 and PP 415 are specifically pietta made and are traditional 4 click authentic internal Colt clones, some piettas also have transfer bar actions depending on model. All others are generally Uberti, a few of which also have four click internals but also have What's called the safety hammer, an additional component inside the action with a rod that travels through the center of the hammer engaging the back of the firing pin pushing it forward when the trigger is depressed fully to the rear. Generally speaking, the first generation single action Colts were updated in 1896 with a slightly wider front blade sight and wider notch rear sights in the top strap as well as a half moon finger mount for the ejector rod along with the spring-loaded catch for the bass rod as you mentioned.
The longer base pin on the Uberti is technically a safety, this allows it to be imported as part of the "points" system. If the uberti base pin is shoved all the way in, it prevents the hammer from falling completely. The hammer should have a little flap on it to impact with, but sometimes ppl swap them out for real colt hammers or shorter correct style cylinder pins.
When the US army bought Schofield they supplied 45 sw ammo even for the colt,after the issues with ammunition mix-up. The Schofield was a supior to the colt in every way, but colts were cheaper.
Based on your description of the feel of the action on the 1st gen Colt from 1904 it sounds like it was not reworked, but an original action from the hay day of Colt.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 My comment is based on personal experience handling many original Colts from that period, probably much more experience than the person who made this video. The characteristics of the action that he is describing are typical of an unmodified factory original Colt SAA made between 1900 and 1910.
@@trsgringo I wish my uncle were still alive, man had the largest firearms collection I've ever heard of and was a big colt fan. Wonder what my aunt is doing with all of them,he had a few pieces that belonged to John Wayne as well. My uncles name was Jim Gosnell.
@@trsgringo Yeah because my Bob Munden custom Colt 45 SAA is slick as an eels arse because it;s tricked out but before it was tight as tick on a hound dog arse so having one worked on will smooth the action out quite a bit and boy does it shoot good !!!!
I know at least one manufacturer made the basepin longer, with an extra groove. It could be seated more deeply for storage and disable the pistol. This could serve as a locking mechanism.
Cimarron actually sends American made internals to be put in their guns made by Uberti. They also send them original guns, to copy more accurately. Cimarron also has them make guns that arent originally on their website exclusively for them.
so to explain the extra groove and length of the base pin you will find when you push the pin to that second groove your gun will not fire as its a safety.
It's actually supposed to be pronounced as "bear" and also the U as in Uber. U-bear-tee. It's an Italian word. I get the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when hearing "you birdy" everytime.
@ 15:23 you show both center pins/cylinder pins and there is a difference with an extra cut on the uberty. afaik that extra cut is for a safety. depress the pin release button and instead of pulling it out, push it in one click and let the button go. Now the hammer or firing pin will not rest on a live round. I don't know if it's in the manual or not but that is a little secret safety that few people know about. Also, you don't need to use the cowboy load, just be sure to pull that pin out one click or it won't fire.
That dual notches on the base pin is considered the safety on the Uberti. That was the way of getting by with the old style action yet still saying the gun has a safety.
I heard someone say that uberti did too good of a job of replicating the old colts and that they’re delicate. I also heard that they’re made of newer better materials and stronger not weaker. What do you think or know?
Ray Feltz Actually, the originals are very durable in my opinion. I believe Uberti did a good job of recreating the Colt SAA. They are used very commonly in the cowboy SASS competitions and hold up quite well.
@@MarksmanTV Actually the bad rap given only had to due with a pretty typical bolt/trigger spring failing...a very cheap and easy fix with Wolf spring steel coil spring replacement. As for being strong, the Italian proof house uses a higher psi for testing than American SAMMI spec's. The standard US max pressure for 45 colt is 14,000 psi and the Europeans test on upwards of 20,000 psi. Now they still only recommend the standard US pressures for safety reasons. So to answer your question, yes quite strong. This still is not as strong as the old large frame Ruger Vaquero's.
Dennis Degamon: You are confusing proof pressure with service pressure, the 20,000 is 1.3 times the service pressure for European proof, so the service pressure is about the same, never shoot proof pressure cartridges in a gun.
EMF is also an importer and I have two of theirs but they're made by Pietta in Italy. I also just picked up a Uberti 5.5" in 357 but imported by Stoeger. It looks like your Uberti except it has a 3 click hammer and does not have the dual groove base pin which is actually a safety. I'm ordering a dual groove pin so I can safely have 6 rounds in it. Also going to put the Rattle Snakes in the grips so it will look like the Eastwood revolver. It has a hammer spring that's a big heavier than the two EMF Piettas. All are very nicely finished and just a cool departure from all the tacticool poly framed semi-autos.
Careful with that dual groove base pin. If you use it for a safety you might regret it for two reasons, 1) It can slip and fail to prevent the hammer from hitting the primer, causing a negligent discharge 2) It tends to become very hard to remove due to a now out of round shape caused by marring from being slammed into the horizontal spring latch bolt by the force of the hammer.
I actually got the pin in from Taylors about a month ago. A Uberti pin in a Pietta revolver and I was very surprised at how smooth it operates. The grooves lock the base pin in as tight as the factory single notch pin from Pietta. I figured something would be a little off but I'm very satisfied with how it functions. Being that I won't shoot them much (more just a fun project for the movie prop idea) I think it will be just fine. But thanks for the input because it is always good to have others that experience chime in.
Thanks for putting this out. Nice video with great info! As someone who started with revolvers though, I cringed hard when you dry fired that old colt to test the trigger pull weight. I'm sure its been done before to it in the century it has been around, but I just don't like seeing it LOL. I used to have an old Uberti that I got second hand for cheap. Someone had worked on the action so that it was smooth as butter and had put so many rounds through it that the barrel was basically almost shot out. Even came with a spare 45 ACP cylinder, which I actually ended up using less than you would think.
While I wouldn't do it with mine, it doesn't really hurt anything to dry fire a center fire gun. That only applies to rimfire guns and a very few others. The Colt SAA is not one of those. If there is no round in the chamber, there is nothing there for the firing pin to hit.
@@geraldscott4302 True....and not. lol MOST center fire firearms will not be damaged by dry firing. However - the SAA can be damaged over time. When the firing pin is not impacting a primer, the hammer itself smacks against the frame and, over time and with repeated strikes, both the hammer and the frame can be damaged. Snap caps in a SAA are a really good idea for dry firing them.
Colt didn’t warranty their SAAs for smokeless until 1900. The base pin on the Uberti is a Swiss Safety. One piece wood grips were a factory upgrade and are today. Civilian wood grips were varnished and the military issued Colts has oil finished walnut grips.
The difference in height between the Colt and Uberti might be due to the original owner filing it down to bring it closer to "zero". Because these guns don't have a lot of options for adjusting the sights, many owners would file it down a bit if it was firing low.
Great Video Chris!! I happen to come from the very city Samuel Colt designed the 1873 peace maker and now i own one made in yr 2000 and never shot brand new. Pretty spot on with the history! However Schofield is pronounced Showfield!! Most magazines last year did a 150 year anniversary article on the 45!! Im proud to have bought mine during the milestone!! Btw any chance you want to sell your 4/3.4" ? 🙏
I found two photos in a Vietnam group that showed (to my knowledge) Vietnam was the last conflict that Soldiers had gotten their hands on M1873's. A lot of soldiers prefered the 1873 of the New Army and some soldiers carried them in WWI and WWII for their reliability over the 1911. I've found one photo of a soldier in Korea wearing one but but it was clearly fallen out of favor by then. The 1873 seems to have been the M14. No longer issued as standard issue yet keeps creeping back up anyway.
from just the thumb nail you can get three Uberti's for the price of one Colt! You can also buy two get them tuned to be butter and still have enough left over for a good holster.
I agree, if you go with the Colt though it's more of a safe queen and gets passed down through the family. You could still do the Uberti the same way but SAA will always be associated with Sam Colt. I prefer to shoot my guns so I don't know if I'll ever dish out for a Colt SAA or a Python.
I have a Uberti 45. Looked a several Taylors. They didn't have a safety notch on the hammer. Don't know if they're all like that. I didn't like them. Do own an early 2nd model Colt 45.
didn know the .44-40 predated the .45 colt also schofields weren’t accepted by the military at the same time as the SAA (S&W wasn’t accepted until 1875)
Some false info here in regards to the schofield being dropped because of ammo, etc. They actually issued a Colt Government cartridge that would work in either. Partly also because it was found not many could shoot a full house 40 grain BP load well. If anyone has ever fired a 250 grain lead bullet on top of a black powder load like that you would know that it's a stout round. Recoil being near a 44 mag in a more modern heavier gun like a blackhawk.
The two grooves in the base pin are cause you can shove the pin in farther to not allow hammer to contact primer. Patton’s grips were ivory not pearl. He said pearl was for pimps.
True on many models and they send reps over to Uberti to inspect quality too, they just don't insist on the serifs in the rollmarks like Cimarron. I know the Taylors folks personally and they are great people who will stand by their product.
While the SAA cylinder held six rounds, if you were going to carry it, you only loaded 5 rounds, to avoid having the firing pin resting on a loaded chamber. It's fine to load 6 at the range, or wherever you are shooting, as long as the barrel is kept pointed downrange.
@Gerald Scott for the occasional shooter of today, the "load five, hammer on empty chamber" is the best, safest option, no question. However, for the folks in the past who carried and really used the SAA as primary weapon, there are ways of safely carrying all 6 rounds loaded to prevent accidental discharge. I won't personally say how I carry a SAA fully loaded in a safe manner here, but suggest reading SIXGUNS by Elmer Keith to learn the various methods that were really used back in the day.
What for the life of me I can't figure out makes the Colt SAA a $2000 or higher gun, other then Colt can't figure out how to produce available numbers? Does anyone know if the Uberti finish lasts or does it dissolve into a colorless blob after a season of shooting?
I have many Ubertis that I have owned for many years with plenty of mileage on them. The finish holds up very well to use. It is said that the Colt's have better steel, but my Uberti's are showing no more wear as my Ruger revolvers are showing. In my Opinion, you are paying for the Colt name, not for three times the quality.
My Uberti has black finish. I keep it in a western holster so there is some wear on the finish. But I have had it about 8 years. Love it, shoots accurately and reliable.
Alot of it is the name. Modern day $2,000 SAA that are made by other companies are on par with Ubirti but the internals are machined better. A good portion of the cost is you are paying someone to spend hours with hand tools fine-tuning the internals. If you know how to use a file you can make a Ubirti feel like a $2000 gun in a few hours.
Colt uses real charcoal/bone color case hardening, which is more expensive than the acid wash CCH simulation Uberti uses. Also a Colt will have more parts made from machined barstock steel. Uberti uses a lot of cast parts. Functionally however there is little difference. The Colt is a better investment piece, but the Uberti is every bit as good a shooter for 1/4 the price.
My understanding they have changed the actions in the newer uberti’s to a 3 click, not good IMO, I have an Evil Roy and it is a 4 click. Matters to me,
When you hear the four clicks of a Colt SAA as the hammer is cocked its great to hear the letters Colt spelled out so clearly. On the other hand when you pull the hammer back on a replica all the clicks spell is FAKE. Always Colt.
What's hard for some to visionalize, is "single action" so folks think; "gosh someone had to pull the hammer back just to fire the gun!" The reality is, so did their enemies. My point every gunfighter had to pull the hammer back to fire, 98% of all holstered weapons were single action. So it's all equal back in the day.
@jungleno4151 you're so right I'm embarrassed I said that. Thanks for pointing that out gheeze and I fancy myself a gun guy. Morale of the story don't drink when you post!
Thankfully I live out in the woods and go outside and shoot my Cattleman often enough. Just keep looking for shot shells for wildlife management deductions
I have a question for anybody who’s had experience with these firearms my hand is 3 inches wide and 6 inches long in your opinion do you think my hand would be too small to use a single action ?
Cimarron says that only cowboy action shooting ammo is to be used in their pistols. Anything else voids the warranty. So, the difference between 45 Colt and 45 cowboy action shooting ammo is immense! Like the difference between 38 and 357 magnum. Does anyone know this to be true?
Any gun marked "45 Colt" has to be able to handle the SAAMI standard rated pressure ammo for 45 Colt of 14,000 psi, or a company is setting itself up for a lawsuit that will bankrupt the company. At 14,000 psi a 5.5 inch barrel SAA will typically launch a 255 gr bullet in the 950-1000fps range, a load that is capable of dropping any 2 or 4 legged critter in the Americas!. Cowboy Action 45 Colt is typically extremely mild sub-10,000 psi "target" ammo barely capable of 650 fps from a 5.5" barrel.
Weird that I came across your comment. I've been debating carrying a SAA for self defense because I had someone pull a Ruger out of his crotch/pants area about 2 weeks ago while I was minding my business waiting on my wife to get out of work. Been going back and forth between your typical polymer and a nice single action. Which size do you carry?
@@rojack79er The 5.5" barrel? That's the part I've been debating if should go 3.5 for easier conceal or go with the standard 4 or 5". Next time they would shit if pulled out a 7" artillery in reply lol. It's crazy out there I'm telling ya. Was just strolling around looking at birds basically and apparently he didn't like that. Of course no police ever around when you need them.
@@rojack79er ''Full sized''? Would that be a 5.5"? If so, don't you think a 4.75" would be a bit easier to put into service more quickly and still sufficiently powerful to solve the problem?
If the Schofield had a longer cylinder and took the longer cartridge it would surely have become tho more popular as its swiftness of ejection and reloading would have thrashed any other gun of the time...as quickness of volleys always wins the day.
Are 44-40 and 44 WCF interchangable? I own a Colt SAA in 44-40, but I can't seem to find any other 44-40's in the design I want but I can in 44 WCF. So, if I find a 44 WCF a like I want would the 44-40 rounds work in both (44-40 and 44 WCF) revolvers?
Yes, 44-40 and 44WCF are the same thing. WCF means Winchester Center Fire. Where as 44-40 means 44 caliber and 40 grains of black powder. Both are the same round.
James MarksmanTV touches on an interesting issue; that being the somewhat “pissy” relations between Colt’s and Winchester. One story goes that Winchester approached Colt’s to ask if they could chamber their new1873 rifle in .45 Colt. Supposedly, Mrs. Sam Colt rejected the request.
The longer pin on the Uberti is used for a safety. If you push it in to the second notch it will protrude from the back of the frame and act as a hammer block to prevent the firing pin from being able to contact a cartridge beneath it if the hammer is inadvertently struck.
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I only use it if I have it stored loaded with 6 rounds instead of 5. But even though they have the floating fire pin they can still fire if handled improperly, but I keep mine with one empty cylinder just as a precaution.
Great overview. I've owned a Ruger Vaquero for about 25 years but it's just been a safe queen while I've done the majority of my shooting with modern semi autos. Now that I've recently retired, I've developed a new interest in the SA revolvers. I just bought two Taylor Ubertis over the last few months and I absolutely love them. I'm learning all I can about the history of the guns and your video is a great bit of info.
I was Armourer and gun coach on that fun film. We used Cimarron guns restocked and refinished with action jobs.
As a single action affecionado, this is an excellent video. I will share it with my brothers. Thank you and stay safe.
One of the absolute best single action videos I've ever seen! You know the gun inside & out, you don't stumble in your explanations about parts & the guns operation because you know it. So many UA-camrs will make a video without even knowing what the 1st detent on the hammer radius is or can even tell you what's happening as you cock the gun. Just a great video!
This couldn’t have came along at a better time. I just watched the quick and the dead and really want a good SAA
Ubertis the one, I have two. They are so close to what the colt was.
What did you wind up with? Gotta love the gun store scene in that movie. 1 of my all time favorite scenes. That and when he duels Ace calling him out for taking the credit of all his kills.
@@josephcarr2742 Absolutely. I foolishly sold my Uberti to a gun store. It had the Colt-type black grips with a rampant Colt. I got $350 for it. I only had about $300 in it. Realized later the cranky old man (of long experience) thought it was a Colt. Tell you anything?
I have used Uberti SAA clones for CAS. After thousands of rounds,, they proved to be sturdy. I never had any work done on them, and they became smoother over time. There was no undo wear on the ratchets or cones. They are good, solid revolvers, and at less cost than Rugers or Colts, they are a value product.
I was just curious do any of the CAS shooter use 44-40 for revolvers or is it mostly 45 long colt chamberings?
@@greeneking77 A large number use .38 Special, loaded to the required lower 750 fps. A few of the authentic shooters used the .44-40. A lot of it has to do with cost. A 2 day weekend match of 10 stages per day could run 200 rounds of pistol, 200 rifle, and upwards of 200 12 gauge. If you shoot every month, then are multiplying those numbers by 12, at least. Not to mention practicing in between. As far as .45LC, I would estimate maybe 1/8th of the shooters I ran into in over the 30 years I have been involved in the sport, used it. I made the switch in the early 2000s. But, for a practical reason: I was living in Alaska, and I used one of my pistols for a field gun for bears, backing up my 12 gauge.
@@ronschramm9163 Did you switch from .38 Special to .45 Colt or the other way around? What ammo did you use for bears?
@@trsgringo I started out with .38 Special, and went up to .45 LC. Bear loads were 230 grain Remington JHP hunting rounds.
I own a Uberti/Cimarron in .45 Colt. I like it a lot. So much so that I bought a lever carbine, 1892?!?, Winchester clone. Both firearms shoot well and are reasonably accurate. The carbine I had taken courtesy out to about 150. But it really works best between 50 and 100 yards. I use the revolver out to about 25 yards or so. Fun firearms.
I enjoy your channel a lot.
Patton used ivory grips. "Only a New Orleans pimp would use pearled grips."
I'm having pearl grips put on my nickle plated S&W Chief Special and have it engraved "Pimp Daddy"
Coming from a "man" as perverse as George Patton , that is a compliment .
Mother of Pearl is always better than natural Ivory .Elephants are worth far more than Patton's fragile Ego .
@@oolooo Times have changed since Patton's day thank goodness. Ivory belongs to the elephants.
@@BigLisaFan Precisely .Anyone who uses actual Ivory nowadays is a savage .
Hahaha good one!
I own two Uberti made Cimarron SAA's. The cylinder bushing in both of them are removable. A Pietta made Cimarron SAA I once owned had a cylinder bushing that was fixed. The Pietta had some serious problems, and I returned it, never to buy another one. The Uberti ones are really nice. I'm certainly keeping them!
Correct, I remove mine all the time.
Love my Pietta…
Sorry I’ve just now subscribed, been watching your videos on UA-cam on Roku and not logged in so subscribed on my phone. Stores like yours are really the backbone of the Gun world, good friend of mine has a gun store in Greer SC, been in business few years more and I buy 95% of my stuff from him, yeah I might could save a few dollars if I shop online but all in all he’s very competitive, he has 2 full time and 2 part time so it’s important to support local, it supports more than the owner. They do it right like it appears you do, I look forward to going there, we have built a relationship and it’s fun to go in, see what’s new in the used selection, it’s awesome! And like you they don’t feel like you are doin them a favor when you walk in, they are friendly, courteous and very helpful, if we loose the small gun shops it will be a sad day. Keep up the good work, gun store wise and UA-cam wise!
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That Uberti pin is part of the safety mechanism. They call it "Cylinder Base Pin Safety". You wont be able to fire if you push the pin further because it will always block the hammer.
How easy is it to switch from "Safe" to "Fire" and back?
My 1980s purchased Cimarron was marketed under the designation "Cattleman." They must have stopped using that designation since then.
Excellent video here. I’ve been on the fence as to which one to buy. As a Colt 1911 collector I want the original Colt SAA but man are they pricey and rightfully so. It looks like a Cimmaron is in my near future. 🤠👍🏼
Craig at cimarron will take care of you, guy knows his stuff. Well worth the wait.
Great comparison, the only thing I saw that you didnt mention when discussing the cylinder pin on the Uberti is that the extra notch actually functions as a safety when put all the way in, and does not let the hammer to fall forward enough to allow the firing pinto strike the primer.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 What 75 is referring to is that original Ubertis had the Colt mechanics, but there is NO extra detent on the hammer radius. The import guns all have longer cylinder pins devised as a safety feature so that in some other reality you can load & carry 6rds safely without a fixed firing pin down on a primer. The other thing that Uberti has done is come up with a "Cattleman 2" version which has a hammer transfer bar (floating firing pin) that does allow for the safe carry of 6rds. Unlike a Ruger Vaquero 1 & 2, all functions are the same EXCEPT for the detents or notches in the hammer radius; there are now 3 instead of 4 because they lost the 1st click which was the safety which is no longer needed AND it did move the trigger further into the center of the trigger guard. As a purist, I won't own or buy a Ruger or a Uberti Cattleman 2; I want the original Colt mechanical design.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 back in the '80s I owned real Colts, but sold em for a car.....anyway those guns and my current Piettas are all tuned for thumbing fast draw by Bob James in Phoenix AZ. In addition to the tuning, Bob typically cuts the cylinder pins to Colt length for purely aesthetic appearance reasons. While I could but don't make these my carry-guns, I wouldn't load 6rds anyway, so the closer they are to Colts, the better. I do a train robbery here in southeast Missouri playing the part of Jesse James. Admittedly, it's more of a Hollywood cultural perception of the James Gang, but everyone relates to & recognizes that "Colt" revolver. Personally, I'm a Pietta man for many reasons; Uberti makes a 4 5/8" while a Pietta makes a correct 4 3/4", and the fit & finish of a Pietta seems a bit nicer to me, and finally the Pietta actions seems smoother than a standard Uberti. Just my preference.
Rollin White apparently did contract work for Colt’s and developed five patents around 1855, including Patent 12648 which was for an "Improvement in Repeating Fire-arms" Whitw approached Colt’s with his bored-through cylinder and was turned down due to problems (White used a paper cartridge resulting in chain-fires, among other issues). The next year, White signed an agreement granting Smith & Wesson the exclusive use of his patent for boring through the chambers, but not the rest of the patent. White retained a royalty rate of 25 cents for every revolver. Smith & Wesson developed White’s patent into a working revolver by coming up with the .22 rimfire cartridge utilizing a metal case containing the priming compound and black powder with the bullet seated in the end, eliminating the chain-fire problem. Smith & Wesson did not invent the bored-through cylinder, they found a way to make it useable.
Patton had ivory grips on his SAA, not pearl.
He probably just made a mistake, both are very pretty and make for great grip designs
Great informative video and all beautiful pistols. Especially the Colt. Thanks for posting!
Definitely one of the better SAA videos out there. I will add though that Patton would've taken umbrage with you stating that his gun had pearl handled grips. They were actually ivory. According to Patton, only a New Orleans pimp would carry a gun with pearl handled grips lol. At least as spoken by his character played by George C. Scott in the movie.
My Uberti is 45 LC and a second cylinder in 45 ACP. It shoots beautifully in both calibers.
.38-40 is a massively underrated cartridge. I would get a replica chambered in it if I thought I could find the ammo. I also can’t abide choosing less than .45 in a Peacemaker.
Awesome video, thank you so much for making this! You gave me just the information I have been wanted to know.
Patton's saa had ivory grips not pearl.
Only a pimp in a cheap New Orleans whorehouse with carry a pistol with pearl grips.
@@cwbristow wtf no. My grandfather owned a Walther pocket pistol with pearl grips. His father bought it in 1915. Unfortunately the gun doesn't exist anymore.
@@maximilianfranz2158 I was quoting Patton...
@@cwbristow Really?
During the war Patton was asked about those pearl grips and he responded " Only a New Orleans Pimp would have pearl grips on his pistol, these are ivory grips"
I really love the uberti. Thank you for sharing
VERY informative. Thank you.
Cimarron uses both Uberti and pietta depending on which model of Cimarron firearm you're looking for.
Cimarron models beginning with PP like PP 401, pp405 and PP 415 are specifically pietta made and are traditional 4 click authentic internal Colt clones, some piettas also have transfer bar actions depending on model.
All others are generally Uberti, a few of which also have four click internals but also have What's called the safety hammer, an additional component inside the action with a rod that travels through the center of the hammer engaging the back of the firing pin pushing it forward when the trigger is depressed fully to the rear.
Generally speaking, the first generation single action Colts were updated in 1896 with a slightly wider front blade sight and wider notch rear sights in the top strap as well as a half moon finger mount for the ejector rod along with the spring-loaded catch for the bass rod as you mentioned.
My 4.75" Cimarron Cattleman has an ejection rod housing that's flush with the end of the barrel. They must have changed that since then, at Uberti.
Mine does too
Outstanding tutorial and information. Thank you!
The longer base pin on the Uberti is technically a safety, this allows it to be imported as part of the "points" system. If the uberti base pin is shoved all the way in, it prevents the hammer from falling completely. The hammer should have a little flap on it to impact with, but sometimes ppl swap them out for real colt hammers or shorter correct style cylinder pins.
Or just cut the Uberti base pin to the Colt length and it is done.
Only semi automatic pistols have to meet the points system!
One of the most practical, simple, beautiful, safe, reliable and accurate guns ever made including the bisley to the list
When the US army bought Schofield they supplied 45 sw ammo even for the colt,after the issues with ammunition mix-up. The Schofield was a supior to the colt in every way, but colts were cheaper.
Based on your description of the feel of the action on the 1st gen Colt from 1904 it sounds like it was not reworked, but an original action from the hay day of Colt.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 My comment is based on personal experience handling many original Colts from that period, probably much more experience than the person who made this video. The characteristics of the action that he is describing are typical of an unmodified factory original Colt SAA made between 1900 and 1910.
@@trsgringo I wish my uncle were still alive, man had the largest firearms collection I've ever heard of and was a big colt fan. Wonder what my aunt is doing with all of them,he had a few pieces that belonged to John Wayne as well. My uncles name was Jim Gosnell.
@@trsgringo Yeah because my Bob Munden custom Colt 45 SAA is slick as an eels arse because it;s tricked out but before it was tight as tick on a hound dog arse so having one worked on will smooth the action out quite a bit and boy does it shoot good !!!!
Uberti cylinder pin - the second "notch" is a hammer block 'safety'. No mention of the bullseye ejector button.
General Patton single action had ivory grips remember in the movie when he was asked about his Pearl grips
I know at least one manufacturer made the basepin longer, with an extra groove. It could be seated more deeply for storage and disable the pistol. This could serve as a locking mechanism.
I was thinking of getting a Denix replica SAA, but I think I’m going to go with Uberti after watching this!
Cimarron actually sends American made internals to be put in their guns made by Uberti. They also send them original guns, to copy more accurately. Cimarron also has them make guns that arent originally on their website exclusively for them.
so to explain the extra groove and length of the base pin you will find when you push the pin to that second groove your gun will not fire as its a safety.
Finally, someone who say's Uberti, not Ubearti. Thank you for this.
It's actually supposed to be pronounced as "bear" and also the U as in Uber. U-bear-tee. It's an Italian word. I get the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when hearing "you birdy" everytime.
My lord, you know a lot about this, very helpful, thank you sir.
@ 15:23 you show both center pins/cylinder pins and there is a difference with an extra cut on the uberty.
afaik that extra cut is for a safety.
depress the pin release button and instead of pulling it out, push it in one click and let the button go.
Now the hammer or firing pin will not rest on a live round.
I don't know if it's in the manual or not but that is a little secret safety that few people know about. Also, you don't need to use the cowboy load, just be sure to pull that pin out one click or it won't fire.
Don’t forget the 41Ic I have a 1st gen 1881 saa in 41lc
That dual notches on the base pin is considered the safety on the Uberti. That was the way of getting by with the old style action yet still saying the gun has a safety.
I heard someone say that uberti did too good of a job of replicating the old colts and that they’re delicate. I also heard that they’re made of newer better materials and stronger not weaker. What do you think or know?
Ray Feltz Actually, the originals are very durable in my opinion. I believe Uberti did a good job of recreating the Colt SAA. They are used very commonly in the cowboy SASS competitions and hold up quite well.
Thanks
@@MarksmanTV Actually the bad rap given only had to due with a pretty typical bolt/trigger spring failing...a very cheap and easy fix with Wolf spring steel coil spring replacement. As for being strong, the Italian proof house uses a higher psi for testing than American SAMMI spec's. The standard US max pressure for 45 colt is 14,000 psi and the Europeans test on upwards of 20,000 psi. Now they still only recommend the standard US pressures for safety reasons. So to answer your question, yes quite strong. This still is not as strong as the old large frame Ruger Vaquero's.
Dennis Degamon: You are confusing proof pressure with service pressure, the 20,000 is 1.3 times the service pressure for European proof, so the service pressure is about the same, never shoot proof pressure cartridges in a gun.
@John S Pietta's are not junk, I own one and it is a fine weapon.
Patton would never have used pearl on his carry. Good article though.
sometime in 1880s there was issued to military only the .45 government meant to fit both schofield and colt
EMF is also an importer and I have two of theirs but they're made by Pietta in Italy. I also just picked up a Uberti 5.5" in 357 but imported by Stoeger. It looks like your Uberti except it has a 3 click hammer and does not have the dual groove base pin which is actually a safety. I'm ordering a dual groove pin so I can safely have 6 rounds in it. Also going to put the Rattle Snakes in the grips so it will look like the Eastwood revolver. It has a hammer spring that's a big heavier than the two EMF Piettas. All are very nicely finished and just a cool departure from all the tacticool poly framed semi-autos.
Careful with that dual groove base pin. If you use it for a safety you might regret it for two reasons,
1) It can slip and fail to prevent the hammer from hitting the primer, causing a negligent discharge
2) It tends to become very hard to remove due to a now out of round shape caused by marring from being slammed into the horizontal spring latch bolt by the force of the hammer.
I actually got the pin in from Taylors about a month ago. A Uberti pin in a Pietta revolver and I was very surprised at how smooth it operates. The grooves lock the base pin in as tight as the factory single notch pin from Pietta. I figured something would be a little off but I'm very satisfied with how it functions. Being that I won't shoot them much (more just a fun project for the movie prop idea) I think it will be just fine. But thanks for the input because it is always good to have others that experience chime in.
Still an excellent presentation. Thankyu
The second notch on the pin is also a hammer safety
Cool video , Michael arms was another importer bought one years ago nice pistol thank you 👍it was a cattlemen
Thanks for putting this out. Nice video with great info! As someone who started with revolvers though, I cringed hard when you dry fired that old colt to test the trigger pull weight. I'm sure its been done before to it in the century it has been around, but I just don't like seeing it LOL. I used to have an old Uberti that I got second hand for cheap. Someone had worked on the action so that it was smooth as butter and had put so many rounds through it that the barrel was basically almost shot out. Even came with a spare 45 ACP cylinder, which I actually ended up using less than you would think.
I cringed when he did that.
While I wouldn't do it with mine, it doesn't really hurt anything to dry fire a center fire gun. That only applies to rimfire guns and a very few others. The Colt SAA is not one of those. If there is no round in the chamber, there is nothing there for the firing pin to hit.
@@geraldscott4302 True....and not. lol MOST center fire firearms will not be damaged by dry firing. However - the SAA can be damaged over time. When the firing pin is not impacting a primer, the hammer itself smacks against the frame and, over time and with repeated strikes, both the hammer and the frame can be damaged. Snap caps in a SAA are a really good idea for dry firing them.
Colt didn’t warranty their SAAs for smokeless until 1900. The base pin on the Uberti is a Swiss Safety. One piece wood grips were a factory upgrade and are today. Civilian wood grips were varnished and the military issued Colts has oil finished walnut grips.
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Swiss safety, was a hammerlii thing, on their virginian dragoon import, for one
The difference in height between the Colt and Uberti might be due to the original owner filing it down to bring it closer to "zero". Because these guns don't have a lot of options for adjusting the sights, many owners would file it down a bit if it was firing low.
Great Video Chris!! I happen to come from the very city Samuel Colt designed the 1873 peace maker and now i own one made in yr 2000 and never shot brand new. Pretty spot on with the history! However Schofield is pronounced Showfield!! Most magazines last year did a 150 year anniversary article on the 45!! Im proud to have bought mine during the milestone!! Btw any chance you want to sell your 4/3.4" ? 🙏
Great report, thanks.
Sorry the S&W was Not chambered in 44-40 due to the case length. The same reason S&W didn't offer the #3 in 45 Colt.
Colt on the first generation guns called the 44-40 guns the colt frontier six shooter so they did have there own name in that caliber
I found two photos in a Vietnam group that showed (to my knowledge) Vietnam was the last conflict that Soldiers had gotten their hands on M1873's.
A lot of soldiers prefered the 1873 of the New Army and some soldiers carried them in WWI and WWII for their reliability over the 1911.
I've found one photo of a soldier in Korea wearing one but but it was clearly fallen out of favor by then.
The 1873 seems to have been the M14.
No longer issued as standard issue yet keeps creeping back up anyway.
Thank you very informative
from just the thumb nail you can get three Uberti's for the price of one Colt! You can also buy two get them tuned to be butter and still have enough left over for a good holster.
I agree, if you go with the Colt though it's more of a safe queen and gets passed down through the family. You could still do the Uberti the same way but SAA will always be associated with Sam Colt. I prefer to shoot my guns so I don't know if I'll ever dish out for a Colt SAA or a Python.
General Patton's Colt SAA had ivory stocks, not pearl.
You didn't mention the grip screw on the Colt that is missing on the Uberti....
I have a Uberti 45. Looked a several Taylors. They didn't have a safety notch on the hammer. Don't know if they're all like that. I didn't like them. Do own an early 2nd model Colt 45.
Thanks, great video
didn know the .44-40 predated the .45 colt
also
schofields weren’t accepted by the military at the same time as the SAA (S&W wasn’t accepted until 1875)
Patton had ivory grips not pearl
Freudian slip - thanks for the correction :)
Indeed. He stated that a pearl handled pistol was only for a lady or a pimp in a New Orleans whorehouse.
Interesting remarks about Cimarron selecting their firearms.
Some false info here in regards to the schofield being dropped because of ammo, etc. They actually issued a Colt Government cartridge that would work in either. Partly also because it was found not many could shoot a full house 40 grain BP load well. If anyone has ever fired a 250 grain lead bullet on top of a black powder load like that you would know that it's a stout round. Recoil being near a 44 mag in a more modern heavier gun like a blackhawk.
Patton carried an ivory handled Colt. Look up his reply to a reporter that called them pearl.
The two grooves in the base pin are cause you can shove the pin in farther to not allow hammer to contact primer. Patton’s grips were ivory not pearl. He said pearl was for pimps.
It's my understanding that Taylor fine-tunes the guns that come through their business.
True on many models and they send reps over to Uberti to inspect quality too, they just don't insist on the serifs in the rollmarks like Cimarron. I know the Taylors folks personally and they are great people who will stand by their product.
Bro plz tell me in 32long revolver comes in 1871 to 1873??
George Patton’s revolvers had ivory grips with his initials inlaid.
then go watch george patton
@@69xxmiiikexx86 I guess you missed the part where the presenter in the video erroneously said Patton had pearl grips on his SAA.
@@JoseyWales44s Patton said that only a New Orleans pimp will have pearl handles.
@@doteman92 Yes, I know. I was responding to @69XxMiiikexX's apparent confusion regarding the OP's comment.
While the SAA cylinder held six rounds, if you were going to carry it, you only loaded 5 rounds, to avoid having the firing pin resting on a loaded chamber. It's fine to load 6 at the range, or wherever you are shooting, as long as the barrel is kept pointed downrange.
@Gerald Scott for the occasional shooter of today, the "load five, hammer on empty chamber" is the best, safest option, no question. However, for the folks in the past who carried and really used the SAA as primary weapon, there are ways of safely carrying all 6 rounds loaded to prevent accidental discharge. I won't personally say how I carry a SAA fully loaded in a safe manner here, but suggest reading SIXGUNS by Elmer Keith to learn the various methods that were really used back in the day.
What for the life of me I can't figure out makes the Colt SAA a $2000 or higher gun, other then Colt can't figure out how to produce available numbers? Does anyone know if the Uberti finish lasts or does it dissolve into a colorless blob after a season of shooting?
I have many Ubertis that I have owned for many years with plenty of mileage on them. The finish holds up very well to use. It is said that the Colt's have better steel, but my Uberti's are showing no more wear as my Ruger revolvers are showing. In my Opinion, you are paying for the Colt name, not for three times the quality.
My Uberti has black finish. I keep it in a western holster so there is some wear on the finish. But I have had it about 8 years. Love it, shoots accurately and reliable.
Alot of it is the name.
Modern day $2,000 SAA that are made by other companies are on par with Ubirti but the internals are machined better. A good portion of the cost is you are paying someone to spend hours with hand tools fine-tuning the internals. If you know how to use a file you can make a Ubirti feel like a $2000 gun in a few hours.
Colt uses real charcoal/bone color case hardening, which is more expensive than the acid wash CCH simulation Uberti uses. Also a Colt will have more parts made from machined barstock steel. Uberti uses a lot of cast parts. Functionally however there is little difference. The Colt is a better investment piece, but the Uberti is every bit as good a shooter for 1/4 the price.
@@DK-gy7ll If my choice was lowering quality to get a cheaper price I wouldn't like that very much. Colts are icinic
Bought my "Evil Roy" directly from Evil Roy himself (Gene Pearcey) and have to say he's as nice a gentleman as he is a knowledgeable gentleman.
Patton carried ivory grips, not pearl grips. He likened pearl grips to something a brothel owner would carry.
Patton didn’t use peal grips only pimps used peal.
My understanding they have changed the actions in the newer uberti’s to a 3 click, not good IMO, I have an Evil Roy and it is a 4 click. Matters to me,
history we already know what about the parts an frame the grade of steel?
When you hear the four clicks of a Colt SAA as the hammer is cocked its great to hear the letters Colt spelled out so clearly. On the other hand when you pull the hammer back on a replica all the clicks spell is FAKE. Always Colt.
What's hard for some to visionalize, is "single action" so folks think; "gosh someone had to pull the hammer back just to fire the gun!" The reality is, so did their enemies. My point every gunfighter had to pull the hammer back to fire, 98% of all holstered weapons were single action. So it's all equal back in the day.
You mean hammer...not trigger.
@jungleno4151 you're so right I'm embarrassed I said that. Thanks for pointing that out gheeze and I fancy myself a gun guy. Morale of the story don't drink when you post!
Very nice
Thankfully I live out in the woods and go outside and shoot my Cattleman often enough. Just keep looking for shot shells for wildlife management deductions
Patton's grips were ivory, not pearl.
I have a question for anybody who’s had experience with these firearms my hand is 3 inches wide and 6 inches long in your opinion do you think my hand would be too small to use a single action ?
Have you compared the Colt SAA to the SAA made by Standard Manufacturing?
Could everyone stop referring to the 45 colt as long colt, there never was a 45 short colt it picked up the name because of the 45 Schofield
Cimarron says that only cowboy action shooting ammo is to be used in their pistols. Anything else voids the warranty. So, the difference between 45 Colt and 45 cowboy action shooting ammo is immense! Like the difference between 38 and 357 magnum. Does anyone know this to be true?
Any gun marked "45 Colt" has to be able to handle the SAAMI standard rated pressure ammo for 45 Colt of 14,000 psi, or a company is setting itself up for a lawsuit that will bankrupt the company. At 14,000 psi a 5.5 inch barrel SAA will typically launch a 255 gr bullet in the 950-1000fps range, a load that is capable of dropping any 2 or 4 legged critter in the Americas!. Cowboy Action 45 Colt is typically extremely mild sub-10,000 psi "target" ammo barely capable of 650 fps from a 5.5" barrel.
I like the 4-3/4" barrel. Somehow that gun looks the most beautiful.
45 colt is 45 colt been buying ammo since eighties never seen a box of factory ammo with long colt on box it's just 45 colt.
I have in front of me a box of Fiocchi ammo labeled "45 Long Colt."
You must not be looking closely. Almost every ammunition manufacturer has "45 LC" or "45 Long Colt" on the box.
Do the Uberti have a transfer bar or any kind of safety feature?
I love all of them
Great review, Uberti makes an excellent firearm. You can check out a quick review I have if you like.
In Indiana ?
Well I carry a single action for self defense so there you go. I need to get a top break though to complete my collection.
Weird that I came across your comment. I've been debating carrying a SAA for self defense because I had someone pull a Ruger out of his crotch/pants area about 2 weeks ago while I was minding my business waiting on my wife to get out of work. Been going back and forth between your typical polymer and a nice single action. Which size do you carry?
@@koDaffi Full sized single action army in 45LC.
@@rojack79er The 5.5" barrel? That's the part I've been debating if should go 3.5 for easier conceal or go with the standard 4 or 5". Next time they would shit if pulled out a 7" artillery in reply lol. It's crazy out there I'm telling ya. Was just strolling around looking at birds basically and apparently he didn't like that. Of course no police ever around when you need them.
@@koDaffi yeah the 5 inch for me. Been practicing ever since I got it and it's just fine in terms of quick drawing.
@@rojack79er ''Full sized''? Would that be a 5.5"? If so, don't you think a 4.75" would be a bit easier to put into service more quickly and still sufficiently powerful to solve the problem?
If the Schofield had a longer cylinder and took the longer cartridge it would surely have become tho more popular as its swiftness of ejection and reloading would have thrashed any other gun of the time...as quickness of volleys always wins the day.
Are 44-40 and 44 WCF interchangable? I own a Colt SAA in 44-40, but I can't seem to find any other 44-40's in the design I want but I can in 44 WCF. So, if I find a 44 WCF a like I want would the 44-40 rounds work in both (44-40 and 44 WCF) revolvers?
Yes, 44-40 and 44WCF are the same thing. WCF means Winchester Center Fire. Where as 44-40 means 44 caliber and 40 grains of black powder. Both are the same round.
@@MarksmanTV WOW! What a fast response. Thanks for the info, you've helped me open up more options. Great videos! Great knowledge! Keep it up :)
James MarksmanTV touches on an interesting issue; that being the somewhat “pissy” relations between Colt’s and Winchester. One story goes that Winchester approached Colt’s to ask if they could chamber their new1873 rifle in .45 Colt. Supposedly, Mrs. Sam Colt rejected the request.
James correction: You bring up the interesting point.
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Are the early 3rd generation colts as good as the 1st and 2nd? I’ve heard that the 3rd gens aren’t as mechanically sound
The Schofield was not the same as the #3. It was a later development of it. The Schofield was not developed until 1875..