Insane Chainless Bicycle Prototype

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  • @TheQ_original
    @TheQ_original  3 роки тому +816

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    • @Username-u5e
      @Username-u5e 3 роки тому +37

      Hacksmith industries want to know your location

    • @Kamal_AL-Hinai
      @Kamal_AL-Hinai 3 роки тому +11

      I wish you'd put your final thoughts since you tried it. Better or worse then a chain etc.

    • @arigatou_lim
      @arigatou_lim 3 роки тому +7

      👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @szreg6425
      @szreg6425 3 роки тому +4

      What spray paint company do you use?

    • @insubordinate_i
      @insubordinate_i 3 роки тому +16

      заебешься крутить педали 🥱😂

  • @uthermaceanruig5098
    @uthermaceanruig5098 2 роки тому +9485

    Congratulations on the rediscovery of ancient bicycle technology.

    • @vickanid1862
      @vickanid1862 2 роки тому +733

      Exactly what I was thinking. Chains were popular since you can have multiple gears to handle a variety of road conditions.

    • @williamoftexas1489
      @williamoftexas1489 2 роки тому +286

      Funny you consider 150 yrs ago as 'ancient'.

    • @djt6fan
      @djt6fan 2 роки тому +615

      @@williamoftexas1489 its a figure of speech

    • @dmasrc18b
      @dmasrc18b 2 роки тому +733

      @@williamoftexas1489 congratulations on discovering figure of speech 🤣

    • @sterogerson4177
      @sterogerson4177 2 роки тому +145

      @@dmasrc18b be kind he might be figuring out what that means 😂

  • @terrificfrogg8377
    @terrificfrogg8377 2 роки тому +724

    Pretty cool but it actually shows how efficient the chain mechanism is

    • @tom4208
      @tom4208 Рік тому +11

      can easily be fixed with just different gear ratios... chains work the same way the sprocket is the gearing basically

    • @terrificfrogg8377
      @terrificfrogg8377 Рік тому +39

      @@tom4208 but this looks like it will require a lot more maintenance due to its rigid nature. A chain is flexible, its able to take a lot more shock

    • @Will80085
      @Will80085 Рік тому +25

      ​@@terrificfrogg8377Shaft driven motorcycles require much less maintenance than chain driven, that's one of their biggest advantages.

    • @stepanpetrenko357
      @stepanpetrenko357 Рік тому

      ​@@Will80085на цьому переваги закінчуються

    • @Moneyybro
      @Moneyybro Рік тому +2

      ​@@Will80085motorcycles riding on big speeds, not like average bike

  • @anujkumarsahu5371
    @anujkumarsahu5371 2 роки тому +3155

    This man took "We are evolving, just backwards" to next level

    • @mareksykora779
      @mareksykora779 2 роки тому +53

      This man solved the problem of dirty chain very simple way.

    • @unclsam6798
      @unclsam6798 2 роки тому +234

      @@mareksykora779 Shaft driven is old technology, chain came later.
      Shaft driven cycles were ruled out due to high loss of energy during transmission.

    • @mareksykora779
      @mareksykora779 2 роки тому +19

      @@unclsam6798 Again for you: It solves the problem of always dirty, lubricated chain. Can you understand the sentence?

    • @mareksykora779
      @mareksykora779 2 роки тому +13

      ​@Sky NinjaHave you ever ridden a bike, dude? Your pants will get dirty from the lubricated chain in the middle of the chain. Here, the middle part of the shaft is hidden inside the frame.

    • @mareksykora779
      @mareksykora779 2 роки тому

      @Sky Ninja Its about city bike, not mountain bike. Find yourself Brikbikes channel. They produce bikes with shaft instead of chain.

  • @pd4689
    @pd4689 Рік тому +396

    I've seen this idea before. Problems are 1) gear ratio, you're confined to one, 2) the actual contact point and transmission of power is confined to a single tooth at a time thereby putting extreme force onto a small point, 3) the drive shaft roller bearings are pretty small and likely to fail quickly, 4) the drive shaft is thin and subject to distortion.

    • @justtruth8281
      @justtruth8281 6 місяців тому +10

      Ware are the breaks ?? Also

    • @7days306
      @7days306 5 місяців тому +22

      5) - конструкции необходим кожух, иначе от грязи и пыли значительно уменьшится срок службы шестерней

    • @Jeaum
      @Jeaum 5 місяців тому +3

      Its a prototype

    • @jeffmullinix7916
      @jeffmullinix7916 5 місяців тому +5

      Human power = .03 of one HP . Then you add your total weight what ever that would be . If that soild 3/4 inch shaft is harden steel then no problem . The bearings have no problems eather . Becuase the shaft would be vary little pressure on them . Helicopters uses the same system for the tail rotor and those shaft are of aluminum tube .

    • @hemusbull
      @hemusbull 4 місяці тому +1

      Very well engineering explanation. Thanks.

  • @owendamon734
    @owendamon734 2 роки тому +1989

    I love how this “prototype” has been around since the late 1800’s

    • @Octopussyist
      @Octopussyist 2 роки тому +102

      And was soon abandoned.

    • @Tokopilbiru
      @Tokopilbiru 2 роки тому +65

      Hahaha we going backwards!!

    • @christophergilley3218
      @christophergilley3218 2 роки тому +24

      Can't make up something new do a reboot. Lol

    • @theh0r5e90
      @theh0r5e90 2 роки тому +17

      if I recall it was also patented by Iver Johnson a typewriter machine company

    • @roadtripper8493
      @roadtripper8493 2 роки тому +9

      The great great grandma of the prototype 😁

  • @pradeeppanchal4485
    @pradeeppanchal4485 2 роки тому +709

    You can't Stop paddle when it's move freely , I mean there a very important role of one way bearing which is missing in this case

  • @AKSaleh.Official
    @AKSaleh.Official 3 роки тому +2796

    This's cool DIY video, but shaft-driven bicycles are already there for more than 100 years, since 1890.
    Actually, chain-driven are considered a vast improvement over shaft-driven bicycles with better performance, efficiency, and ease of maintenance.

    • @SuperSohaizai
      @SuperSohaizai 3 роки тому +46

      I don't think it has better efficiency as chain has efficiency of up to 98% if I remember correctly. The other 2 I'm not so sure, can't remember the details. I believe what you are thinking of is belt driven bicycle, not shaft driven bicycle. Cool tech is still cool though, so I'm not gonna judge

    • @workshopninjathe1st
      @workshopninjathe1st 3 роки тому +35

      There are public bike rental schemes in Portland OR using shaft drive bikes using 3 speed shimano hubs

    • @firesurfer
      @firesurfer 3 роки тому +115

      @@SuperSohaizai That's the same as what he said. Reread his comment. The chain is more efficient.

    • @SuperSohaizai
      @SuperSohaizai 3 роки тому +42

      @@firesurfer oh kay.... I actually misread it until you pointed it out... Thanks, and my bad!

    • @firesurfer
      @firesurfer 3 роки тому +9

      @@SuperSohaizai I figured that when he wrote: " shaft-driven bicycles with better performance, efficiency".
      Without the context of the entire sentence, it can easily be misread.

  • @brianbenson2446
    @brianbenson2446 Рік тому +207

    Finally! They've made a bike that you have to pedal twice as much to go half as far!

    • @geertcautereels
      @geertcautereels 5 місяців тому +8

      The fitness clubs rent them out. Great workout and not to far from home.

    • @Artists33
      @Artists33 5 місяців тому +3

      Just a prototype😊

    • @PatrickBaele
      @PatrickBaele 5 місяців тому +3

      Exactly my thought

    • @armandoalvarado5840
      @armandoalvarado5840 3 місяці тому +1

      🤓🤓

    • @nighttskies
      @nighttskies 2 місяці тому

      this is a global site ma'am​@@geertcautereels

  • @Trutko.Dmitry
    @Trutko.Dmitry 2 роки тому +527

    Такие системы были опробованы ранее. Очень много недостатков.
    1. Слишком большой вес.
    2. Быстрый износ зубчатых колёс.
    3. Необходимо дополнииельно создать систему свободного хода.
    4. Ухудшение регулировки колёс. Плюс десяток других недостатков.

    • @dzetta369
      @dzetta369 2 роки тому +14

      Система свободного хода уже встроена.

    • @KlimChugunkin888
      @KlimChugunkin888 2 роки тому +30

      КПД не ахти ещё.Пункт 2. Можно подобрать материал и грамотно его обработать.но и цена этому есть(если это будет сделано специалистами)." Улучшенные зубчатые колеса изготовляют обычно из качественных углеродистых сталей 35, 40, 45, 50, 50Г и легированных сталей 35Х, 40Х, 40ХН и др. Нормализованные зубчатые колеса небольших размеров выполняют из углеродистой стали обыкновенного качества Ст5, Ст6 и качественных углеродистых сталей 35, 40, 45 и 50, а больших размеров - из углеродистого стального литья 35Л, 40Л, 45Л, 50Л, а также из марганцовистого н низколегированного стального литья различных марок.
      Для повышения контактной прочности зубьев и соответственно нагрузочной способности зубчатых передач применяют стальные зубчатые колеса твердостью НВ>350. С увеличением твердости рабочей поверхности зубьев возрастают также износостойкость и сопротивление заеданию зубьев. Однако зубья с большой твердостью рабочей поверхности плохо прирабатываются и нуждаются в высокой точности изготовления. Кроме того, их механическая обработка затруднена, для облегчения ее эти зубья нарезают до термической обработки. Так как некоторые виды термообработки вызывают коробление зубьев, то для исправления формы зубьев применяют отделочные операции: шлифовку, притирку, обкатку и т. п"(с)

    • @Maksim19982
      @Maksim19982 2 роки тому +16

      Да и ремонтопригодность подобного добра такая себе.

    • @АзаматБектуров-н6п
      @АзаматБектуров-н6п 2 роки тому +42

      Как по мне зае***ся педали крутить

    • @DYECPRO
      @DYECPRO 2 роки тому +11

      Согласен. Но круто. Самый жирный минус это скорость. На нем по дороге и по горам не поездишь

  • @motarted1735
    @motarted1735 2 роки тому +1089

    The sleek look is definitely top notch. The major disadvantage is friction loss which will be much higher than a conventional chain.

    • @Приколы888
      @Приколы888 2 роки тому +44

      To do this, you need to lubricate the mechanism, I had an electric saw where the same mechanism was used, I forgot to lubricate it and as a result, after a week, the links were erased.

    • @GregZentTrumpetMan
      @GregZentTrumpetMan 2 роки тому +34

      Yeah, no bearings or grease in that tube, so good luck.

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 2 роки тому +26

      I cant speak for bicycles but in motorcycles a new chain is more efficient than bevel gears but actually research shows that chains lose efficiency rapidly as they wear. On a bicycle I guess that's less of a consideration. That's one reason you've seen more motorcycles move toward using belts and gears in recent years, along with lower maintenance.
      Obviously with a bicycle gearing is a substantial consideration that favours chains. 👍

    • @isakramngaihzuala4894
      @isakramngaihzuala4894 2 роки тому +33

      And another is that he can't rest his foot as the wheel rotates with the rotation of the pedal,unlike the chain system

    • @timvandriel4568
      @timvandriel4568 2 роки тому +14

      There are many more disadvantages to this. When you put a lot of force on the pedals, the smaller gear will be pushed out, away from the other gear with great force. In the way he currently welded the tube, the connecting plate will just bend open, losing any contact between the teeth.
      It's also much more difficult to do gear shifts, more likely to get something like a long dress or a coat being pulled into the gears, and probably a lot more.

  • @black53342
    @black53342 3 роки тому +351

    The Q: Rides a bicycle.
    The bicycle: My time has come.

  • @bellavia5
    @bellavia5 Рік тому +19

    This was invented 100 years ago. One was found in a barn on American Pickers.

    • @jamesconroy7030
      @jamesconroy7030 4 місяці тому

      My father had one a long time ago. It also had a telescopic spring loaded suspension seatpost.

    • @bellavia5
      @bellavia5 4 місяці тому

      @@jamesconroy7030 Interesting.

  • @ThomasMarxJKD
    @ThomasMarxJKD 3 роки тому +248

    You just need a higher gear.

    • @danielf3623
      @danielf3623 3 роки тому +35

      And some way to keep your shins when going downhill.

    • @esh92
      @esh92 3 роки тому +15

      or just use an internally geared hub...

    • @freewaycola5415
      @freewaycola5415 3 роки тому +34

      @@esh92 or just use a chain

    • @jerzygadzinowski9138
      @jerzygadzinowski9138 3 роки тому +9

      @@freewaycola5415 hahah +1 chain is much better

    • @RonitSingh17
      @RonitSingh17 3 роки тому

      Make my way to 1000 please 🙏🏻 🥺
      It's a kind request
      Please 🥺.

  • @earlyxplorerstudios8592
    @earlyxplorerstudios8592 2 роки тому +359

    It is basically equal to the lowest pressure gear on any bicycle.
    You're gonna have to paddle a lot just to move a few feet.
    I'm not exactly sure if I'm gonna recommend it....

    • @exobjm5890
      @exobjm5890 2 роки тому +1

      I know

    • @jbduchene
      @jbduchene 2 роки тому +6

      Just need to use a Nexus hub with integrated gears...

    • @earlyxplorerstudios8592
      @earlyxplorerstudios8592 2 роки тому +4

      @@jbduchene *which he didn't,
      hence my point.

    • @deepaksahu3685
      @deepaksahu3685 2 роки тому

      Correct

    • @andrasolivier7185
      @andrasolivier7185 2 роки тому +2

      @@earlyxplorerstudios8592 Still doesnt help anything. The loss is sooooo high here. If he used faster gearing, he can hardly make it move...

  • @eshvvn
    @eshvvn 3 роки тому +977

    'The Q' in 2030 : "Tireless Bicycle prototype"

  • @doronron7323
    @doronron7323 Рік тому +7

    Nothing like re-inventing the wheel. A pal of mine has an 1898 Belgian FN, which I've ridden. Nothing new here, but I admire your hack it and weld outlook.

  • @darthvail
    @darthvail 2 роки тому +773

    The major issue with his sprocket build is that he was to pedal extremely fast for minimal energy transfer. In other words his system is far less effective than a traditional chain gear system

    • @Calypso993
      @Calypso993 2 роки тому +25

      There's plenty of room for improvement.

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 2 роки тому +15

      @@Calypso993 need a phat gearbox or one made of exotic materials to get more efficient pedaling

    • @carldoomsday3975
      @carldoomsday3975 2 роки тому +5

      Rohloff 14speed internal drive hub.

    • @kc4415
      @kc4415 2 роки тому +41

      Also the fact you cannot stop pedaling without the bike stopping, or more likely destroying the sprockets

    • @opinanlosjovenesrd3477
      @opinanlosjovenesrd3477 2 роки тому +2

      @@Calypso993 Exactly what I was going to say. It can be improved.

  • @retweaksatapathy106
    @retweaksatapathy106 2 роки тому +1390

    The gear ratio being the same for peddal and wheel would require lot more peddling to travel the same distance but this idea was awesome.

    • @Nikhilsingh-bf2cr
      @Nikhilsingh-bf2cr 2 роки тому +45

      Yes if we increase the size of gear then it will be more awesome.

    • @kashmir-se-kanyakumari3574
      @kashmir-se-kanyakumari3574 2 роки тому +29

      @@Nikhilsingh-bf2cr worse is that you can't have any gear shift options

    • @Nikhilsingh-bf2cr
      @Nikhilsingh-bf2cr 2 роки тому +24

      @@kashmir-se-kanyakumari3574 hmm you are right but in this type of cycle gear swift option is difficult.

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 2 роки тому +1

      @@kashmir-se-kanyakumari3574 you can if there is a central gear system. They are really mot that uncommon. Can probobally by them of ali for $10

    • @fecalmatter4195
      @fecalmatter4195 2 роки тому +3

      @@kashmir-se-kanyakumari3574 you could change the ratios or even add a gear but you would increase weight.

  • @srinivassiddarth
    @srinivassiddarth 2 роки тому +555

    I think you need to use larger diameter gear wheels, so you can spin your legs less number of times. Try it . Great concept. You created history there.🙏🙏🙏

    • @erebus1964
      @erebus1964 2 роки тому +48

      I would say ... he re-applied history there ... even though I admire his approach to do it DIY ... it's been nothing new.

    • @darkzero4608
      @darkzero4608 2 роки тому +7

      Yes correct. He has to peddle fast to cover small distance.

    • @ompatel5226
      @ompatel5226 2 роки тому +5

      I think this mechanism is more suitable for ev

    • @srinivassiddarth
      @srinivassiddarth 2 роки тому +1

      @@ompatel5226 how?

    • @ompatel5226
      @ompatel5226 2 роки тому +3

      @@srinivassiddarth he could use different transmission ratio and then use another gear at rear with motor

  • @merix2741
    @merix2741 5 місяців тому +13

    This reminds me of those ideas I had when I was a kid and how genius it was. Only to discover someone already made it years ago. This gives me same vibe.

    • @SamuTheFrog
      @SamuTheFrog Місяць тому

      Except these people have zero self-awareness & put an insane amount of effort into a fully scripted and edited video about it that probably took them a week or so to create... instead of taking less than 1 minute to google it first. Lmao
      Even had the audacity to call it a new idea & a prototype.

  • @jareddahlseid551
    @jareddahlseid551 2 роки тому +406

    Looks like perfect gearing for those who had to ride to school uphill both ways!

    • @rsc68er
      @rsc68er 2 роки тому +45

      Peddle 50 times, move 2 meters

    • @imteraz
      @imteraz 2 роки тому +4

      Hahaha 😂

    • @danii8168
      @danii8168 2 роки тому +1

      BMX for the win, that is if your chain isn’t holding onto dear life

    • @alal2192
      @alal2192 2 роки тому

      Uphill is probably very bad loool

    • @Drum1965
      @Drum1965 2 роки тому +1

      You forgot in the snow too!

  • @joebaker2311
    @joebaker2311 2 роки тому +275

    People can say what they want about efficiency vs chain drive but you can't deny the craftsmanship. Great video

    • @waynecampbell9714
      @waynecampbell9714 Рік тому

      That's like saying I put lipstick on a pig and she's absolutely beautiful even though she's a pig she's still beautiful dude the fact of the matter is it's still a pig

    • @jckdnls9292
      @jckdnls9292 Рік тому +13

      It's standard craftsmanship.. Nothing special about it

    • @Djekill
      @Djekill Рік тому

      Мастерство на самом низком уровне

    • @KamakNeApiMalimawata
      @KamakNeApiMalimawata Рік тому

      we can't deny how much he makes using this video, I guess at least $ 40000

    • @psychlyeslg
      @psychlyeslg Рік тому +1

      ​@@jckdnls9292Crafted a video with 40 mil views and counting.

  • @williamstidham9526
    @williamstidham9526 2 роки тому +130

    I have a new bicycle from 1983 that has front wheel drive with this setup and also has a cost gear where it lets it go fast down hills and not eat the gears out while peddling with chain on back, 10 speed I think. Bought it from the man who put it together in 1983 and still has tips on the tires. Bought it because it was different, No one ever ask to ride it so it just hangs around

    • @007nth
      @007nth 2 роки тому +7

      Any video,we want to see.

    • @dewmontain123
      @dewmontain123 2 роки тому +4

      Do a video on it. Even if its like 1 minute

    • @williamstidham9526
      @williamstidham9526 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, man had a bicycle shop and in 1982 they made these and the gear would eat out going down hills, 1983 they put a inline slip to fix that, Shop owner took this one out of box and hung it up in store till I bought it 10 years ago. Has the old new tires on it, looks like any bicycle 10 20 speeds, has a cable from center pedal up along the frame to curve down to front wheel and chain drive on back, I bought it because it was different, dark green paint with plastic gear where this one is steel

    • @williamstidham9526
      @williamstidham9526 2 роки тому +2

      BWA 2 wheel bicycle, on UA-cam, not mine but would work the same way, made for ridding in sand

    • @51-FS
      @51-FS 2 роки тому +1

      Can I ride it?

  • @s_wozzzie
    @s_wozzzie Рік тому +525

    Wow look now we’re pedaling twice as hard for what a chain can do in one pedal 😱 10/10

    • @M.F.Hafizhan
      @M.F.Hafizhan Рік тому +17

      It's like mocking chains because you saw someone who's running a 22/52t spinning out once

    • @joel7227
      @joel7227 Рік тому +43

      You're assuming the chain is what creates the power ratio's, where it's actually the gears.
      You could have an equally powerful push with an appropriate sized gear.
      Hence why geared bikes have different sized cogs, not chains.

    • @rcnelson
      @rcnelson Рік тому +17

      Chains are messy, relatively short-lived, and wallow in road grunge. Driveshafts (as motorcyclists well know) are neater and require almost no maintenance. The drawbacks of shafts for both motorbike and bike are initial cost, more weight, and less efficiency than a chain. I think the trade-off is often worth it.

    • @s_wozzzie
      @s_wozzzie Рік тому +7

      @@rcnelson the friction loss must be crazy but true tbh, chain suck sometimes especially when they come off and you have to stop and put them back in, but ill keep my chains your opinion is valid though

    • @s_wozzzie
      @s_wozzzie Рік тому +1

      @@joel7227 that actually makes alot more sense ngl

  • @vikasshelke5544
    @vikasshelke5544 2 роки тому +177

    I never experience chain breaks . Chains are by far more efficient in power transfer than shafts

    • @wicked9299
      @wicked9299 2 роки тому +9

      No even in cars they use shaft to maximize the power in bike they use chain becoz bike is more efficient in fule economy to reduce the cost of shaft and it is also less maintenance I know your indian science student becoz iam also indian 🤣🤣 mai ne bahut Indians ko deka he har video ke niche uska science dalte baite he 🤣

    • @ayman4540
      @ayman4540 2 роки тому +5

      @@wicked9299 car mein shaft use hota hai because it needs more torque as it is carrying lot more weight compared to bikes. Also the inner and outer wheel needs to rotate at different speeds while turning this is difficult to achieve with chain drive.

    • @wicked9299
      @wicked9299 2 роки тому

      @@ayman4540 there is no need for different speed of rear tires while turning the front wheel needs to be at different angles and speed

    • @ayman4540
      @ayman4540 2 роки тому +10

      @@wicked9299 go read about car differential you will understand why rear wheels need to rotate at different speeds

    • @keithbranch7718
      @keithbranch7718 2 роки тому

      N no gears

  • @officialjohnrokz2
    @officialjohnrokz2 2 роки тому +521

    The power loss from the pedals to the rear wheel is insane.

    • @islamisthetruewaytogod6812
      @islamisthetruewaytogod6812 2 роки тому +11

      Maybe he can improve it in the future

    •  2 роки тому +33

      this is actually is like truck on 1st gear. So you need to pedal more for to go faster but now you have more torque. So if he can do a double or triple gear system that is changeable it will be better than chain system I believe :D

    • @aserta
      @aserta 2 роки тому +16

      That's why when they used to make bikes like these, back in the 1800's they quickly ditched them when derailleurs started appearing. Chain reigns supreme.

    • @kevind3185
      @kevind3185 2 роки тому +13

      Not a power loss.more like a efficiency loss due to way to low of a gear ratio. But he could climb any hill slow.

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 2 роки тому +3

      @@kevind3185 Slow indeed, pushing the bike i.e. walking it.

  • @hunteraff5872
    @hunteraff5872 Рік тому +1

    Good idea until you crash, and now your stuck there bending aluminum back into place

  • @enderlord5412
    @enderlord5412 2 роки тому +248

    Drive shaft bicycles aren't a new concept, their main drawback is that their fixed gear so you can't adjust power ratio and you can't back pedal. But props to you for building your own system 👍

    • @Keterius
      @Keterius 2 роки тому +7

      I heard some company's trying to make an automatic transmission for it tho

    • @bobmorane2082
      @bobmorane2082 2 роки тому +1

      What’s the point of backpedaling tho I rather use it for a hard brake like in a 1 speed city bike

    • @Keterius
      @Keterius 2 роки тому +3

      @@bobmorane2082 different speed acceleration and efficiency

    • @enderlord5412
      @enderlord5412 2 роки тому +3

      @@bobmorane2082 for those who aren't used to it it can be a detriment, also breaking isn't very easy on fixed gear bikes, I'd say their for experienced riders only

    • @manilanoakes3966
      @manilanoakes3966 2 роки тому +10

      I don't think it is mechanically efficient as a chain and sprocket.

  • @LionHeart_.
    @LionHeart_. 2 роки тому +272

    It seems like you have to pedal 10 times more than you would do with a chain, just to gain a mere fraction of the momentum

    • @stavid7870
      @stavid7870 2 роки тому +12

      Yeah you'd need alot more gears

    • @Vajrapani108
      @Vajrapani108 2 роки тому +7

      @@stavid7870 that's just a chain but worse and more delicate

    • @suzysuzuki8865
      @suzysuzuki8865 2 роки тому +13

      Different size gears would fix that, this was a first run so he had to have some baseline. Wouldn't be hard to correct.

    • @suzysuzuki8865
      @suzysuzuki8865 2 роки тому +2

      In the motorcycle world bigger sprocket= more torque smaller=more top end

    • @yadavzoze4752
      @yadavzoze4752 2 роки тому

      Yes

  • @kanishk6103
    @kanishk6103 3 роки тому +16

    That's great but,
    1) You'll have to pedal more, compared to chain cycles
    2) You'll have to pedal continuously, you can't 'glide' like you do in chain cycles
    Apart from this, Great Idea!

    • @ЛЕШИЙ-вделе
      @ЛЕШИЙ-вделе 3 роки тому +1

      👍👍👍

    • @Qwertyuiop-wg5xu
      @Qwertyuiop-wg5xu 3 роки тому

      i think it is possible to integrate the same mechanism present in the rear gear set into the current one if he did not do it yet, that way you can just let it glide, but true you have to pedal more than in a normal bicycle, and I would like to see if it is possible to add something transmission like to this mechanism, and I guess it is not impossible, but will definitely be time and money consuming, but I thing the end product will just be worth it

  • @trickydicky2908
    @trickydicky2908 Рік тому +15

    Too much criticism from people who couldn't pump up a tire without botching it. Great craftsmanship!

    • @davemanone3661
      @davemanone3661 6 місяців тому +1

      Just what I was thinking!

    • @Baryogenese
      @Baryogenese 5 місяців тому

      It is trash, he just made a good mechanism 1000 times worse and turned it completely useless.

  • @usmedassistenciatecnica7247
    @usmedassistenciatecnica7247 2 роки тому +175

    Chain: 5% Power loss
    Belt: 12% Power loss
    Shaft: 25% Power loss 🤷‍♂️

    • @LeftOverMacNCheese
      @LeftOverMacNCheese 2 роки тому +23

      Well there's a reason why shaft driven bike didn't took off

    • @arthurryanorilla356
      @arthurryanorilla356 2 роки тому +2

      But as same as belt drive you don't have to worry about grease or dirty oil on you're leg. Mamachari or japanese bikes has all three of them in the past don't if they still have em today

    • @brijlal973
      @brijlal973 2 роки тому +5

      So shaft driven is ideal for exercise?

    • @usmedassistenciatecnica7247
      @usmedassistenciatecnica7247 2 роки тому +4

      @@brijlal973 if you don't like wind in your face

    • @peterduxbury927
      @peterduxbury927 2 роки тому +2

      Gear box - could be 50% loss

  • @robbymidgett3797
    @robbymidgett3797 2 роки тому +690

    Very cool. I like the thought. One difference I’d probably make is to find a larger diameter bevel gear for the pedal shaft. Seems like it requires a lot of pedal work for a little amount of output at the moment.

    • @thatsclassified1
      @thatsclassified1 2 роки тому +19

      That and maybe a housing for the gears so things can't get damaged and I don't know if you would have to lube it often

    • @TarDaniel
      @TarDaniel 2 роки тому +13

      This was for demonstration purposes only. The rest is obvious 😎

    • @fitwithsurya
      @fitwithsurya 2 роки тому +2

      Same question but i think its for demo only

    • @coolmendotdot2
      @coolmendotdot2 2 роки тому +8

      At least a lot of torque for uphill driving

    • @andrecrosby466
      @andrecrosby466 2 роки тому +9

      I wanna see it going uphill

  • @kraxen72
    @kraxen72 3 роки тому +50

    no one is gonna mention that shaft driven bicycles are already a thing? the prevoius bikes with no inside of the weel were cool but this is just a lesser known bicycle type that is already quite easily available and used.

    • @FaresDjebbar
      @FaresDjebbar 3 роки тому +9

      I had one, it also had 6 different gears!
      This is not an original idea as you said!

    • @Narayan_Patki
      @Narayan_Patki 3 роки тому +3

      exactly

    • @ParodieHecker-mobile
      @ParodieHecker-mobile 3 роки тому +7

      Well, he still built it himself. There are also bikes with no inside. So what? Still pretty damn cool imho

    • @sean2661
      @sean2661 3 роки тому +3

      Very cool recreation of the original shaft driven bicycles. It's crazy to think that about 120 years ago, bicycle manufacturers successfully produced and sold bikes with these features.

    • @incautious1
      @incautious1 3 роки тому +3

      Okay, where's the one you built? THAT is the point of his videos. He built it himself - pretty cool

  • @mssmmgnn
    @mssmmgnn 2 роки тому +131

    Smart, as idea... but it has mainly two defects:
    - the hub of the pedals is blocked, it always turns.
    - only one transmission ratio is possible (and, in this case, too short).
    Anyway, again... nice idea, nicely performed; mostly for the cheap (using parts of old drills) and quick (entirely handmade) kind of solution.

    • @rafflesiadeathcscent3507
      @rafflesiadeathcscent3507 2 роки тому +10

      Not his idea, this is already an existing idea from 1900s

    • @JohnNy-ni9np
      @JohnNy-ni9np 2 роки тому +4

      Yeh, it needs to have a clutch and a gearbox.

    • @johnnyregs2378
      @johnnyregs2378 2 роки тому +6

      Those are the same two issues any fixed gear bike would have and they're still hugely popular. The biggest issue here is just ease of maintenance. Too easy to switch out a chain or cog or chainring compared to this. Shaft drives have been around longer than chain drives, bmw motorcycles and some others still use them. Shafts on a bicycle are only about 75% efficient where as chains are closer to 95% which is another issue.

    • @sskamble6758
      @sskamble6758 2 роки тому +2

      Let's call a bug as a feature, you can reverse a bicycle now

    • @andrasolivier7185
      @andrasolivier7185 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnNy-ni9np Then add a motor too otherwise u die trying to make this shit move...

  • @JMC-gy6ss
    @JMC-gy6ss 2 роки тому +297

    Nice job! It is a work of art.
    The reason they don't make bikes like this is that steel is stronger in the pulling direction that the twisting direction.
    The shaft will always be at least as heavy as the chain.
    Also bevel gears are less efficient than roller chain, and tend to slip more.

    • @bottomline99
      @bottomline99 2 роки тому +3

      you just made that up, stop talking shit. try a more factual approach next time. for example, this can not change gears... the pedals can not freewheel... etc

    • @WyreForestBiker
      @WyreForestBiker 2 роки тому +2

      @@bottomline99 you could easily add a freewheel to a shaft drive set up ..

    • @patricialorentzen4874
      @patricialorentzen4874 2 роки тому +17

      @@bottomline99 Actually, bevel gears (or any gears) are less efficient because there's a change of direction - twice in this case. Any force vector reqiures energy that ultimately is not delivered to the wheel. Where that's also true of a chain, the angular deviation is minimal by comparison, and is mediated by the difference in sprocket size (proportional to the gear ratio). So "made up" or not, the assertion is correct. Also, tensile strength may be greater than yield strength, it depends on the material. However, this is unlikely to matter as the forces required to either twist or pull a 5/8" steel shaft to the point of damage are unlikely to be achieved in this application. That said, I agree that the two major omissions are disengaging the pedal (freewheeling), and providing multiple gear ratios. All-in-all, a chain drive using a modern derailleur to achieve a nearly linear transfer of force while providing a wide range of input-to-output ratios is hard to beat.

    • @bottomline99
      @bottomline99 2 роки тому +3

      @ Patricia Lorentzen In my opinion the lower efficiency of bevel gears a simple matter of friction, which increases at 90 degrees with the inherent increased surface slipping that results (Agree with JMC on that). Respectfully disagree about the vector statement, eg a long belt drive that twists 90 degrees is virtually as efficient as if it didn’t. It was ‘The reason they don't make bikes like this is that steel is stronger in the pulling direction that the twisting direction’ that inspired my comment. That is not the reason, it urkes me when people just make shit up and preach it like fact! My thoughts and guess would be, for the same torque transmission, the chain style spreads load over a larger diameter cog and many teeth, the bevel gears are a smaller radius with only one or two teeth in contact, which undoubtedly results in much higher stresses, requiring higher quality materials, hardened surfaces, shimmed exactly to avoid wear, enclosed with oil (and seals) to achieve low friction, a variable gear ratio wheel hub drive. imagine its actually pretty good system performance wise however simply more heavier, complex, costly to make and maintain compared to the ole cheap and effective chain drive that won.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 2 роки тому

      Nerd. 🤣👍

  • @strictlyaudis7012
    @strictlyaudis7012 2 роки тому +226

    It won’t be practical at all for these reasons : constant pedaling, and you have only one gear also uphill and down hill will face a lot of challenges . Thanks for bringing the 30’s back , I love it hhhh

    • @callumgill7019
      @callumgill7019 2 роки тому +15

      You should see what New York bike delivery guys do on fixed gear bikes

    • @strictlyaudis7012
      @strictlyaudis7012 2 роки тому +1

      @@callumgill7019 this is not a bad thing to do at all , it’s thinking and planning and doing something, it’s just won’t be as good as the bikes nowadays

    • @creteking23
      @creteking23 2 роки тому +2

      No gear like 100 years of bikes. Except no chian to break or noise......great idea

    • @kennnn2011
      @kennnn2011 2 роки тому

      I feel the same

    • @guscurci
      @guscurci 2 роки тому

      Just genious! Depends on the outcome is better than bikes of nowadays.
      For instance I have been using inner tubeless tires for over 7 years now and just had to change them now. They don’t get punctured and are just a bit less confortable in terms of absorving impact when wheels get out of the ground. Obviously competition cyclists will have a problem with it.
      Since my purpose is having a cheap and exercising transportation, my chinese brandless bike does the job perfectly!
      I get to work and return everyday about 14km daily, not much but the bike holds itself steady and robust with 1 maintenance yearly.
      Would also change the system for this one if it was readily available. But I wouldn’t be doing the handyman’s work because I have no talent so just pay a specialist and done!

  • @JKidding-m3h
    @JKidding-m3h Місяць тому +3

    It's great until the torque twists the metal putting it out of alignment. You can change a chain, you can't fix the frame.

  • @NJ-zz4gu
    @NJ-zz4gu 3 роки тому +60

    It would be epic of he combined all of his insane bikes into one

    • @MizanChen
      @MizanChen 3 роки тому +1

      But if he combine both shaft driven and hubless bike together, the bike would be very2 slow

    • @NJ-zz4gu
      @NJ-zz4gu 3 роки тому

      True

  • @chronocommander007
    @chronocommander007 2 роки тому +38

    Not to take away from accomplishing this engineering project but I had a Sussex shaft drive bike for a few years. The chainless drive was rather more experimental than reliable. The shaft drive was mated to a Nexus 8 speed. The drive was heavy with more friction than a chain drive and the drive shaft kept snapping under load. There were lots of alignment issues. The curved bevel gears also wore out quickly. The gearbox was made from aluminum and too weak with undersized hardware. Expensive, heavy, inefficient, unreliable. Belt drive seems far superior.

  • @vincentwhite7693
    @vincentwhite7693 2 роки тому +133

    Anyone with any real engineering knowledge knows that this is a quickly thrown together project which may look good but could in no way be thought of as a reliable working machine.

    • @stevespitler3070
      @stevespitler3070 2 роки тому +9

      No way to lubricate things, must have. Lubrication.

    • @ryanpersaud1267
      @ryanpersaud1267 2 роки тому +21

      He's pedaling faster than he's actually going

    • @jamesgizasson
      @jamesgizasson 2 роки тому +12

      I'm not an engineer (flunked out), but I can see a few flaws.
      It needs a freewheel mechanism, the gears are unprotected from the elements, the driveshaft bearings are just tapped into the tube with nothing to keep them from getting pushed in too far, the crank gear is offset and unstable, and a kid on a Razor scooter could outrun that gear ratio.
      The sad thing is, this is a great concept! It just needs to be properly built. :3

    • @intelligenceroboticworld2987
      @intelligenceroboticworld2987 2 роки тому +1

      No way can matter actually it's working thats will more efficient

    • @jamesgizasson
      @jamesgizasson 2 роки тому +9

      @@intelligenceroboticworld2987 Ummm... what?

  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en Рік тому +16

    Lovely design, and it's quite therapeutic seeing the stages of the build. It's no doubt less efficient than a chain though. I think having a one drive set up like that would suit an E bike more connected to a tidy throttle.

  • @nadavgolden
    @nadavgolden 3 роки тому +116

    I wish you had companion videos about the engineering advantages and disadvantages of your creations

    • @alejandroponce182
      @alejandroponce182 3 роки тому +5

      I think if change te gear ratio this will be great

    • @rahulsharma3911
      @rahulsharma3911 3 роки тому +14

      Yeah.. things like fatigue, abrasion, gear ratio will be the enemy, eventually

    • @mddanishkhan40
      @mddanishkhan40 3 роки тому

      I am thinking this is very simple idea why no one can do before 🤷

    • @MrFliffi
      @MrFliffi 3 роки тому +18

      @@mddanishkhan40 because it has been done before and chaines just work better

    • @brauliorubio2465
      @brauliorubio2465 3 роки тому

      @@rahulsharma3911 100% truth

  • @Hcheeza
    @Hcheeza 2 роки тому +121

    You'll need to put a kind of Free-to-lock reverse gear there, Imagine you'll injury your own leg because the pedals keeps cycling

    • @butwhy9859
      @butwhy9859 2 роки тому +5

      Big brain

    • @АртемМухамбетов-ы4н
      @АртемМухамбетов-ы4н 2 роки тому +1

      На заднем колесе велосипеда стоит обгонная муфта

    • @zandarion
      @zandarion 2 роки тому +4

      free lock gear already is inside the ball bearing. and reverse cycle works as stop pedal. 2 in 1. like every old school bicycles. invented millions years before Christ :)

    • @amjan
      @amjan 2 роки тому +1

      It's in the wheel hub.

    • @ipengsmart
      @ipengsmart 2 роки тому

      Yes. This is what i am thnking.

  • @EricFortuneJr.
    @EricFortuneJr. 2 роки тому +169

    There’s no way to change gear ratios so hills might be a challenge. Another potential problem would be contamination and grit sticking to the exposed gears, grinding away and making it harder to operate over time. You would be oiling it down every day. These are some reasons motorcycles use sealed shafts.

    • @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
      @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 2 роки тому +2

      Actually, Pinion, Rohloff, Shimano Alfine, and Effigear are all examples of multi-speed manual gearboxes for bicycles that could support multiple speed shaft drive bikes. Combine that with hydraulic disc brakes and you basically have automotive level technology and performance for a man powered bicycle.

    • @ly5504
      @ly5504 2 роки тому +3

      @@blakejohnson3864 "One hundred million dollars". -Dr Evil

    • @СергейДевятаев-я4ч
      @СергейДевятаев-я4ч 2 роки тому

      Так на видео показали принцып работы.Шестеренки можно подобрать в нужном соотношении.Насчет загрязненности:можно корпуса сделать чтоб все в масле было и грязь не попадала

    • @DokuFREENET
      @DokuFREENET 2 роки тому +1

      Thats why bikes are made with chains , he did not discovered anything that wasnt discovered before, it is old building technique, not in use by any manufacturer cause of that

    • @borgorajkeraban1403
      @borgorajkeraban1403 2 роки тому

      @@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife And you end up peddling 500 lbs a bike. Bright indeed.

  • @macsiebb
    @macsiebb 11 місяців тому +1

    No chain, no grease, no gears, no breaks. Clickbait for me nothing else.

  • @jerryespinoza2113
    @jerryespinoza2113 2 роки тому +182

    Shaft driven bikes are immensely troublesome. Chain drives are far superior and vastly more rugged. The shaft drives are outdated and always tend to fail due to the prying nature of the gears. Even with shaft bearings they are no comparison to the chain drive

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM 2 роки тому +18

      Yep. There’s a good reason for chain drive being the universal mechanism for pushbikes. This is a bit like making a piston engined airliner.

    • @nedviga3794
      @nedviga3794 2 роки тому +2

      100%

    • @Gin2341
      @Gin2341 2 роки тому

      shaft are also not that efficient when deliverinv power to the wheels compared to chains

    • @imafackinjunglist
      @imafackinjunglist 2 роки тому

      @@tjfSIM or eating instant coffee without a spoon.

    • @williamh4172
      @williamh4172 2 роки тому +2

      Not to mention that you are stuck with one gear.

  • @Sweetpotato450
    @Sweetpotato450 2 роки тому +187

    No freewheeling 🤣

    • @whereandbackagain7059
      @whereandbackagain7059 2 роки тому +19

      For real! Stop pedaling and you're gonna know real fast.

    • @ryuj1n.sr208
      @ryuj1n.sr208 2 роки тому +3

      @@whereandbackagain7059 ride fixed gear and it's the same. Idk which drivetrain I'd trust tho, a regular chain and sprocket or this thing

    • @Srowotv
      @Srowotv 2 роки тому +1

      Good job brow,but Repot kalau di jalan menurun kaki harus lepas dari pedal😂😂 yah make freewheeling...

    • @joserizal5027
      @joserizal5027 2 роки тому +3

      They just give an idea.. just put freewheel gear.. no such big deal tho..

    • @MrRaceles
      @MrRaceles 2 роки тому +1

      better to weld ring type bevel gear to sproket
      wheel ,after grinding
      teeths of wheel.

  • @naughtyfred1639
    @naughtyfred1639 2 роки тому +64

    The gear drive is pretty cool. Your fabricating skills are awesome. But I think changing a wore out chain would be easier than changing wore out gears.

    • @rus8147
      @rus8147 2 роки тому

      Посность согдасен с тобой)

    • @blazn0
      @blazn0 2 роки тому +12

      This gear system would break so fast going uphill. In 25 years of cycling I never had a broken chain.
      And I use my bike 7 days a week.

    • @miguelnava8442
      @miguelnava8442 2 роки тому +7

      @@blazn0 and the chain is actually more efficient and if you lubricate it (mostly like once in a month) it will last a lot of time

    • @loxyrus
      @loxyrus 2 роки тому

      make me wonder how car work without chain

    • @blazn0
      @blazn0 2 роки тому

      @@loxyrus propeller shafts.

  • @ronaldcash8492
    @ronaldcash8492 Рік тому +1

    REMEMBER SAFETY FIRST

  • @Swapnil638
    @Swapnil638 3 роки тому +85

    Ceramic Speed has been developing that tech for years (called “Driven”) to make it shiftable and race-capable

    • @andrasolivier7185
      @andrasolivier7185 2 роки тому

      And unless they develop a heavily DNA modified racer with monster thighs they cant succeed...

    • @Swapnil638
      @Swapnil638 2 роки тому

      @@andrasolivier7185 Looking forward to your research paper that rebuts the utility of that tech

    • @andrasolivier7185
      @andrasolivier7185 2 роки тому

      @@Swapnil638 then u looking at a bad place ;)

  • @kaseratarun
    @kaseratarun 2 роки тому +85

    My professor made this years ago, and it still is in his lab.

    • @mohammadwasilliterate8037
      @mohammadwasilliterate8037 2 роки тому +10

      This design is probably a hundred years old, it's single speed and heavy, useless, which is why it isn't used.

    • @teemoleague907
      @teemoleague907 2 роки тому +6

      The chain is cheaper and lighter. Waste of time , energy and money.

    • @kaseratarun
      @kaseratarun 2 роки тому

      @@teemoleague907 it's true, but as an Engineer's experiment perspective it is nice.

    • @teemoleague907
      @teemoleague907 2 роки тому

      @@kaseratarun hopefully he is getting the money off youtube for this or he he should report this channel

    • @kaseratarun
      @kaseratarun 2 роки тому

      @@teemoleague907 no need to do this, the idea is already useless anyway.

  • @TheRealGreg
    @TheRealGreg 2 роки тому +148

    Now build a geared transmission into the crank hub and you'd really have something! Nicely done

    • @tomkacandes8286
      @tomkacandes8286 2 роки тому +2

      There are geared transmissions for bikes but definitely not a build at home sort of thing and the ones sold are designed to work with chain or belt

    • @Al-ng2wn
      @Al-ng2wn 2 роки тому +4

      At this point just install a motorcycle gear box and clutch. Although I'm not sure if the gears ratios is suitable for humans.

    • @branni6538
      @branni6538 2 роки тому

      Look in the video list below this video. There is a disc gear ratio in full effect and it is genius.

    • @macpaz
      @macpaz 2 роки тому

      @@branni6538 are you talking about the video titled "Erstaunlich leistungsfähige Maschinen und extreme Schwerlastanbaugeräte"?

    • @qwertpoiuy430
      @qwertpoiuy430 2 роки тому

      @@Al-ng2wn I mean just ride a motorcycle, far better transportation method of budget allows

  • @kicheollee7857
    @kicheollee7857 7 місяців тому +1

    This system by combining two gears is less reliable because gear teeth can be loaded heavier than original system

  • @alanmckinnon6791
    @alanmckinnon6791 2 роки тому +77

    Those conical gears are exposed to the elements - rain, dirt, grime, sand. They will not last long.
    Find a way to enclose them and you might be onto something

    • @Mj-th7md
      @Mj-th7md 2 роки тому +5

      Its call a differential

    • @TheMikael666
      @TheMikael666 2 роки тому +4

      its actually the oposite, chain driven bicycles are less durable / efficient in the dirt

    • @roamingdsk4803
      @roamingdsk4803 2 роки тому +2

      With deferential?

    • @billjamal4764
      @billjamal4764 2 роки тому

      I don't think that matters much, I'd be far more worried about stopping, and being in complete control

    • @recklessrickey9513
      @recklessrickey9513 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mj-th7md it is not

  • @TalenGryphon
    @TalenGryphon 2 роки тому +163

    Fun fact! Pierce Arrow (Yes, THAT legendary early automobile maker), made chainless bicycle in the early 20th century (At least as late as the 19-teens). They were beautiful machines, with fully enclosed geartrains to keep out grit and dust. Some even had full suspension!

    • @jeremyashford2145
      @jeremyashford2145 2 роки тому +3

      A friend has one.

    • @iamtheoffenderofall
      @iamtheoffenderofall 2 роки тому +9

      People like this guy in the video think they have something new when in fact its the oldest form of tech out there.

    • @carldoomsday3975
      @carldoomsday3975 2 роки тому +2

      Ive found the only other mechanic on this video.

    • @miroslavzima8856
      @miroslavzima8856 2 роки тому +2

      When there Is shortage for new tech, they start to recycle old ones. Still, it's interesting to watch how they cope with it.

    • @ablelawrence5750
      @ablelawrence5750 2 роки тому

      Thanks bud

  • @dastaniam
    @dastaniam 3 роки тому +21

    This chainless bike looks great with the hubless tires ❤️

  • @tirebiter1680
    @tirebiter1680 Рік тому +2

    Back around 1899 to 1910 a luxurious expensive bicycle was made with a drive shaft that surrounded the right chain stay and had bevel gears on either end. This was an alternative to a chain.

  • @DiwanX
    @DiwanX 2 роки тому +34

    It will be a good idea if you make another one in the other side with a different gear ratio, so you can switch between them.

  • @space_tv2002
    @space_tv2002 3 роки тому +79

    If we could make a gearbox near the back wheel then the speed can be increased with good efficiency.

    • @unkulwilly
      @unkulwilly 2 роки тому +3

      or just use a rohloff hub. internal gearbox inside the rear hub.

    • @chrisdaigle5410
      @chrisdaigle5410 2 роки тому +7

      Geared hubs are much less efficient than chain drives.

    • @Zach-ju5vi
      @Zach-ju5vi 2 роки тому

      @@chrisdaigle5410 True but it would probably last forever with little maintenance.

    • @reefread1234
      @reefread1234 2 роки тому

      It's been done

  • @onelastlap9302
    @onelastlap9302 2 роки тому +237

    Hope those pins don’t fall out! Feels like they might come loose over time, but overall, very clean build and great video 👌

    • @lunkydog
      @lunkydog 2 роки тому +11

      Tapered pins..Very common in machinery, they will stay put.

    • @platinum6978
      @platinum6978 2 роки тому +13

      Direct drive is fun until u get your calf pinned inbetween the pedal and the ground 😉

    • @memesfromdeepspace1075
      @memesfromdeepspace1075 2 роки тому +2

      Weld it . problem solve

    • @arontesfay2520
      @arontesfay2520 2 роки тому +4

      @@memesfromdeepspace1075 No need. They'll actually adhere more with use. In fact, taking them out after a while can be challenging.

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind 2 роки тому +6

      @@platinum6978 the rear hub was a standard single speed with coaster break. Still works as before but no chain. You can stop pedaling at will and coast or pedal back a bit to break.

  • @michaelcroos4713
    @michaelcroos4713 Рік тому +4

    Awesome! And to make it even more useful, install a 3 or 5 speed internal rear hub, then you have gearing options without derailleur gears and chain to worry about.

  • @timjohnson1199
    @timjohnson1199 2 роки тому +22

    Ya know, there's a reason that bicycles evolved with a chain drive.

  • @dmwanderer9454
    @dmwanderer9454 2 роки тому +41

    Looks like the gears were sliding a bit and it also looks like ur riding on a low gear setting from a regular bike. I think it would definitely break down after a few weeks to months of use

  • @georgvonsauer2618
    @georgvonsauer2618 2 роки тому +168

    Insane...yes! If it were practical, it would be universal...I will take my multi speed bicycle over this single speed...never had a chain problem in my 65 years of bicycling.

    • @hugoguerrero9814
      @hugoguerrero9814 2 роки тому +6

      It has 3 gears
      Here , there, and goneeee it has the speed of infinity and beyond

    • @gargipathak7954
      @gargipathak7954 2 роки тому +1

      I have had some problembs but i will only say one thing
      THE KAWASAKI NINJA ALSO USES CHAIN TO RUN
      lol

    • @suryagupta955
      @suryagupta955 2 роки тому +1

      @@hugoguerrero9814 lmao😂

    • @curtsk19
      @curtsk19 2 роки тому

      How? My chain fell off just yesterday

    • @suryagupta955
      @suryagupta955 2 роки тому +2

      @@curtsk19 must be a cheap one

  • @obama9862
    @obama9862 Рік тому +1

    Pretty cool, but I think a u joint would be better, at least for mountain biking. BMW actually made motorcycles with driveshafts instead of chains to atom mud getting in

  • @FaithwalkerTodd
    @FaithwalkerTodd 2 роки тому +33

    You will need bigger sprockets on the front and the back. The drive gears need to be adjustable on the fly. So that you can change the gear ratio. I could imagine having the drive bar slide inside of itself, but also have a key to make sure that it’s rigid to the twist. It could slide slightly forward or backwards to change the gear ratio. The bar would have to get shorter or longer to change the gears.

    • @deutsch-amerikanisch8281
      @deutsch-amerikanisch8281 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly why this design is hasn't been used since the late 1800's. Because a chain can do all of what you said easier, and more efficiently.

  • @ivanpaezcabo6300
    @ivanpaezcabo6300 Рік тому +6

    Well done but it needs a bigger crown gear.

  • @nigmatshabidiov9575
    @nigmatshabidiov9575 2 роки тому +55

    Нужно постоянно смазывать шестерни, чтобы не износились. А педали нужно крутить в 5 раз больше чтобы скорость была как с цепью. Интересная концепция, но утопичная, на мой взгляд

    • @flame5792
      @flame5792 2 роки тому +14

      Да я бы сказал вообще хрень полная

    • @mikhailsabaleta7902
      @mikhailsabaleta7902 2 роки тому +1

      А кто не даёт планетарную втулку поставить вот тебе и скоростя, также сделай кожух чтобы шестерни не торчали

    • @mikhailsabaleta7902
      @mikhailsabaleta7902 2 роки тому

      Но мне цепь больше нравится))

    • @flame5792
      @flame5792 2 роки тому

      @@mikhailsabaleta7902 так этот хрен не поставил. Видать ему и так удобно

    • @lamb_lion
      @lamb_lion 2 роки тому +4

      Ещё постоянно нужно педали крутить, особенно при спуске , а то ноги могут пострадать.

  • @MartinMMeiss-mj6li
    @MartinMMeiss-mj6li 11 місяців тому +2

    A bicycle with a drive shaft is nothing new. When my school class made a field trip to the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia in the 1960's I saw a drive shaft bicycle there. I think it was made in the late 1800's or early twentieth century.

    • @ifsomasiauc
      @ifsomasiauc 11 місяців тому +1

      I owned a bicycle with gear shaft and internal hub gear. Nothing new.

  • @The_Silent_Killer_07
    @The_Silent_Killer_07 Місяць тому +1

    Congratulations for discovering the problem for solution

  • @Shalashalska
    @Shalashalska 3 роки тому +39

    At 4:41, the rear wheel spins about one quarter rotation after the pedals have stopped moving. With the design shown, that shouldn't be possible unless the gears are slipping. Looking at it frame by frame, it actually looks like the gear on the shaft is completely stopped but the gear on the wheel is moving. Is there some mechanism to disengage the gear that was not shown, or am I missing something else?

    • @trickymathsmantra
      @trickymathsmantra 3 роки тому

      I too was thinking about that

    • @SuperSohaizai
      @SuperSohaizai 3 роки тому +7

      He didn't modify the wheel hub, so I don't think it is any different from the normal bike where cruising (aka stop pedalling, wheel keep moving) is still possible?

    • @fabbendale
      @fabbendale 3 роки тому +13

      The wheel to pedals rotation ratio seems to be different in separate scenes which should not be possible and there's not a single scene showing actual start of movement by pedaling (he clearly pushes with left leg in that one scene) so I don't think the rear cog is even attached to hub (he just drops it in place and actually attaching rear cog to hub is never shown). I think this is not a working prototype but the bike is simply pushed to movement and he is just acting to pedal it forward. The scene with turning from left to right shows the bike to be very unstable which also suggests that he is not putting force to rear wheel but free rolling while acting to pedal.

    • @Shalashalska
      @Shalashalska 3 роки тому

      @@SuperSohaizai Ah, right. I thought that was handled in the chain, but after looking into it, it is mounted directly in the wheel hub.

    • @Gli4d
      @Gli4d 2 роки тому

      That is the existing free-wheeling hub he has used.

  • @gadgetgus
    @gadgetgus 2 роки тому +164

    Nicely done ✅
    A good take on an old idea 💡
    It's amazing to think they made this concept, back to 1898 with the Chainless Columbia Model 51, which was also shaft driven...
    I have not seen it on a bicycle before, so that was fun 👏
    It would be okay around flat, Flemish countries, since there are no gears.
    I noticed there is no retaining part, to hold in the modified - 'cotter pin', so it's just relying on compression, but that is an easy fix.
    Sometimes we have to go back, to go forwards...
    ie. A Hybrid engine originates over 100 years ago - from a submarine and the electric car was first developed in 1890, before the combustion engine, yet its become the 'new' thing...
    Good video, thanks for sharing,
    Atb Gus 👍

    • @MainInternetUser
      @MainInternetUser 2 роки тому

      Back in these days there were only shaft bikes, no chain it wasn't invented yet

    • @hackdaniels7253
      @hackdaniels7253 2 роки тому +2

      @@MainInternetUser No. Just no.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 роки тому +2

      Shafts suck for this application. They're acceptable for motorcycles because you can build an engine that can provide enough power to make up for it, but they just suck. If you're concerned with maintenance the best compromise would be a modern belt driven bike. They're slightly less efficient than a standard chain bike, but they're much lower in maintenance. But, really, chain maintenance isn't that big of a deal.

    • @gadgetgus
      @gadgetgus 2 роки тому

      @@SmallSpoonBrigade you make a valid point. There is another way...
      The future is 'frictionless', so no 'gears' - no 'real' maintenance needed 😉

    • @zombie-process7025
      @zombie-process7025 Рік тому +1

      Yup. It was billed as "ideal for the ladies" because there was no chain to catch/dirty your clothing on.

  • @shimul2007
    @shimul2007 2 роки тому +7

    Congratulations!
    Now You can ride the cycle back and forth. 😍

  • @toastmantoasty
    @toastmantoasty Місяць тому

    Driveshaft bicycles were actually pretty common around the turn of the 20th century, mainly because pedal-driven bicycles were still in their infancy and the now-traditional template didn't exist. The main reason chains won out are because they lose less power to friction, and they allow for external gears whereas shafts are limited to an internal hub. Though there are some companies that build shaft bicycles or conversion kits.

  • @Mr.Useless420
    @Mr.Useless420 2 роки тому +19

    You know this would chew up that small gear without lubrication after awhile. Just like differentials need oil to keep heat and wear down.

    • @callumh9450
      @callumh9450 2 роки тому

      Grease

    • @Mr.Useless420
      @Mr.Useless420 2 роки тому

      @@callumh9450 could work but it'll need to stay in the garage, what would make it better though is peddle assist.

  • @thatraymond
    @thatraymond Рік тому +20

    I think this is slick! Probably an issue if you get dirt/pebbles in the gears though.

  • @TamiyaPhilippW
    @TamiyaPhilippW 2 роки тому +9

    Improvements:
    Use ballbearings to reduce friction
    Make a more sturdy connection
    Make a gearbox
    Use screws with loctite to secure gears

    • @isaiahwelch8066
      @isaiahwelch8066 2 роки тому

      Actually, with this design, you shouldn't use ball bearings, but rather the same kind of bearings you find in automotive differentials, as they're cylindrical, rather than spherical. While they have a wider cross-section, they offer more stability to a linear rotating system.

    • @TamiyaPhilippW
      @TamiyaPhilippW 2 роки тому

      @@isaiahwelch8066 true

    • @louiewatson9389
      @louiewatson9389 2 роки тому +1

      Loctite

  • @immobilegrain8809
    @immobilegrain8809 Місяць тому +1

    Hear me out it might look like "omg he is devolving" but when i was riding my bicycle the chain broke and the cycle didnt just fall and hit a car it broke my jwels this is what i need

  • @Po_gribi_s_Yurikom
    @Po_gribi_s_Yurikom 2 роки тому +248

    Ну да просто бомбезная идея. 👌Только педали замучаешся крутить. Ну а просмотры будут на ура крутится😂😂😂

    • @Pan_Witold
      @Pan_Witold 2 роки тому +54

      Надо проверить изделие в полуляхах.

    • @александр-г6я9д
      @александр-г6я9д 2 роки тому +57

      @@Pan_Witold я думаю это полная хуйня, созданная, чтобы просмотров собрать.

    • @vaqtinchaoshiq
      @vaqtinchaoshiq 2 роки тому +11

      Фигня полная.

    • @maxkot3659
      @maxkot3659 2 роки тому +21

      Не говоря о передаточном отношении, пыли и грязи между зубьями и о шумности данного вида зацепления.

    • @albertrozenfild
      @albertrozenfild 2 роки тому +12

      Не случайно даже снимать подробно в движении эту хрень не стали...

  • @johnrobson1309
    @johnrobson1309 2 роки тому +86

    I've honestly never seen one of these shaft driven bikes. After seeing some of the comments and the video, I can see what the disadvantages are. Regardless, I'm still impressed you have the know how to put it together. I've always envied welders because it's something I'm too cautious to attempt.

    • @ColinBarrett001
      @ColinBarrett001 2 роки тому +6

      Don't be John. Just buy a welder, find some pieces of scrap metal to practice on, watch some UA-cam videos and have a go. C'n'est pas difficile.

    • @craigstaggs8597
      @craigstaggs8597 2 роки тому +2

      I bet takin' a dump is a bit of an ordeal for you too ..... Puff .

    • @peterlustig6888
      @peterlustig6888 2 роки тому

      @@ColinBarrett001 Is there any danger involved with the electricity?

    • @maxx6095
      @maxx6095 2 роки тому

      Well if you have to be cautious, you might as well be cautious while welding !

    • @angel-og.8261
      @angel-og.8261 2 роки тому

      @@craigstaggs8597 stop, he’s already dead! ☠️

  • @TheRonin248
    @TheRonin248 2 роки тому +52

    Looks like the gearing ratios may not have been taken into account. However this is still a great foundation to build from. Good idea.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 роки тому +1

      That would be tough in a bicycle form factor. Motorcycles have a fairly wide transmission that wouldn't easily fit into a bicycle. You could probably do something along the lines of a continuously variable transmission though as that doesn't require much space to work with.

  • @tubeinvader6124
    @tubeinvader6124 Місяць тому

    Hate paying monthly fees for no adverts to only find that people sell out and I still have to see adverts I’m not interested in 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @chezelenskiy4339
    @chezelenskiy4339 2 роки тому +109

    Идея хорошая. Цепь спадает, рветься, растягивается, штанину зажевывает. Этот вал лишён таких недостатков, вот только передаточное число 1:1 никуда не годится. Нужно было сзади делать передачу не с маленькой шестерни на большую, а наоборот.

    • @Nurekeevich
      @Nurekeevich 2 роки тому +2

      Ммм кто-то имеет дело с редукторами?🤔

    • @alanlansche
      @alanlansche 2 роки тому +1

      Justo pensé eso

    • @ruslansapozhkov7056
      @ruslansapozhkov7056 2 роки тому +25

      Никогда не видел чтобы рвалась цепь

    • @Nurekeevich
      @Nurekeevich 2 роки тому +3

      @@ruslansapozhkov7056 Цепь рвется когда происходит люфт на звёздах, не доводи до этого состояния 🏥

    • @LexinosGenesis
      @LexinosGenesis 2 роки тому +7

      Идея тоже не лишена недостатков. Время бы показало реальную ценность идеи. Вал без подшипников?

  • @chickboom4537
    @chickboom4537 3 роки тому +14

    The gear ratio is Completely wrong which leads to less torque 🔥🔥🔥

    • @abirabir5218
      @abirabir5218 3 роки тому +1

      it's just a prototype/dumy model . he just made for fun purpose . don't take this seriously

    • @kekhrieshuya5479
      @kekhrieshuya5479 3 роки тому

      Na bruh, with the small gear at the front, it will provide more than enough torque, too much cadence required. As a matter of fact, it needs a bigger driver gear if u want to use it as a normal bicycle.

    • @marcosaraujo1574
      @marcosaraujo1574 3 роки тому +1

      @@abirabir5218 exato! É pura brincadeira e diversão dele.

    • @abirabir5218
      @abirabir5218 3 роки тому

      @@kekhrieshuya5479 yeah .

  • @YMYagizErgenc
    @YMYagizErgenc 2 роки тому +29

    For shifting, driveshaft could be retracting or sliding (not stable like in the video) and wheelside gear can be conical. So when you shift the gear, shaft end gear will slide on the main cone gear. You may have 5 or 6 different gear position only. Since you won't be able to change the shaft end gear.

    • @johndoe-so2ef
      @johndoe-so2ef 2 роки тому

      Probably want to think that through a little more.

  • @prasanthkumar2950
    @prasanthkumar2950 2 місяці тому +1

    Steed cycles from Trichy, TN, India. They sell the cycle with shaft based transmission and belt transmission. Interested people visit steed websites.

  • @SharapovaFan
    @SharapovaFan 2 роки тому +38

    Once he hits something really hard (or a deep pothole), those gears will probably decouple. Also, no adjustable ratios makes this only suitable for relatively flat cities.

  • @deepdiver51
    @deepdiver51 2 роки тому +4

    Go to 1:30 to avoid the crappy advert. I pay You Tube good money to avoid adverts and now people are sneaking them in like this.

  • @EveryoneneedsaGary
    @EveryoneneedsaGary 2 роки тому +57

    Aesthetically this covert bike design is awesome, at a glance you’d wonder how it was propelling itself.

  • @nordennature
    @nordennature Рік тому +2

    Для такой системы требуется сцепление, чтобы отключать подачу кручения от колеса к педалям во время наката иначе педали будут крутится пока крутится колесо. А это еще больше усложнит конструкцию, поэтому уже сотни лет как используется цепь

  • @jamescrud
    @jamescrud 2 роки тому +5

    The only practical reason to build this is content for youtube.

  • @bleppoblepp2558
    @bleppoblepp2558 2 роки тому +55

    Really cool when you ride downhill, getting faster and the pedals ram your legs in highspeed

  • @Aldej84
    @Aldej84 2 роки тому +64

    Этот механизм не износостойкий, он должен работать в корпусе с маслом для смазки.Зачем изобретать велосипед,он уже изобретён!

    • @fame00
      @fame00 2 роки тому +6

      Дело не только в смазкк и чистоте. На задней вилке должен быть метал толще, именно метал крепящий эти шестеренки. И в итоге получится слишком большой вес и преймушеств не так уж и много... Вот с двигателем был бы смысл наверное.

    • @egorzhan
      @egorzhan 2 роки тому +5

      Там уже видно пошёл износ на шестерне от металлического пальца, металл по просту съест и все...

    • @fame00
      @fame00 2 роки тому +4

      @@egorzhan ну на видео скорее ввсего автор сделал на скорую руку, чтобы показать. Но даже если всё сделать как надо, то все ровно такой привод очень сомнительно полезен.

    • @k26po
      @k26po 2 роки тому +16

      народ ,давайте не будем говорить этому буржую о том ,что он просрал передаточное число ок ?

    • @SatanaXXX
      @SatanaXXX 2 роки тому +2

      Это фикс получился. Теперь вел без холостого хода. Если только не добавить еще элементов, но стоит ли он того..

  • @TDJDC-uw1zt
    @TDJDC-uw1zt Рік тому

    This is a shaft drive design, which is similar to the principle of a car. We have been specializing in this kind of bicycle drive shaft for almost 30 years. The above gear is exposed and cannot be protected by lubricating oil. The longer the riding time, the faster the gear wears. It is recommended to seal and protect the gear structure.

  • @willgarrod9907
    @willgarrod9907 2 роки тому +54

    Awesome piece of rudimental engineering and a very clean fixie build. You will need to strengthen around the bevel gears as they will force themselves apart and 'jump teeth' under high load. The gear ratio is too low also, but overall it is an excellent job and a good way to get clear of the oily messy chains. Well done.

    • @ПроДвижение-ч2в
      @ПроДвижение-ч2в 2 роки тому +1

      Да,в данном случае,планетарный механизм не очень крепок и стабилен , его нужно усилить и по возможности закрыть от попадания грязи и пыли.

    • @patricktravers992
      @patricktravers992 2 роки тому +1

      Does no one care about a range of gears that you can use without rebuilding the bike when you need to change gear

    • @typhoontim125
      @typhoontim125 2 роки тому +7

      Truth is, its completely impractical ..useless

    • @typhoontim125
      @typhoontim125 2 роки тому +2

      @Danger Bear Its terrible..completely impractical...a good clickbait video tho

  • @humancattoy7767
    @humancattoy7767 2 роки тому +32

    I see you have a knack for saving old tools too. Nice design. Simple and clean.

  • @SIX6SIXer
    @SIX6SIXer 2 роки тому +5

    this guy should design some sort of communication system comprised of a cable that could be strung up atop 50ft poles that would allow someone in New York City to converse with someone living in California as if they were in the same room together...

    • @johndoe-so2ef
      @johndoe-so2ef 2 роки тому

      You Sir, are certainly not well. Such a preposterous idea.

  • @anmoldalal16
    @anmoldalal16 Рік тому

    I applaud the effort. I also submi my observations: Inefficient, prone to failure and expensive due to replacement needed of worn machined parts. Result: Good practical experiments are not based on old failed engineering concepts. This design has applications elsewhere. Eg:Ships, boats, gliders,tents, gliders, big top tents and weapons. That said a 100 on the video. P.S, On second thought There is a way to increase power output ;) Clue - "Be like water".