TC 2290 Pedal - Is It Any Good?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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00:00 - Hello
01:00 - Factory Presets
01:27 - Modulated Delay
01:46 - Chorus
02:03 - Panning & Ducking
02:33 - Deep Mod
03:07 - WIDE
03:27 - Tap Tempo
04:52 - Flanger
05:33 - Dynaflange
06:26 - Slapback
07:00 - Tremolo
07:30 - Rhythmic Delays
08:13 - Panning the Dry
08:51 - Feedback Phase
09:46 - Glorious Leads
10:05 - Thoughts
11:30 - Control Overview
12:08 - A Bug
12:30 - Editor & Feature Request
12:48 - TUTORIAL
13:38 - Filters
14:30 - Basic STEREO Delay
15:15 - Adding Modulation
16:53 - Going Beyond the Rack
17:45 - Adding Panning
19:03 - Ducking
20:14 - Chorus & Flanger
21:56 - Other Possibilities
23:00 - Criticisms
24:30 - Is It For You?
26:06 - Rack v Pedal Comparison
What's a classic rack you'd like to see reissued as a pedal?
Great video Leon! I think Eventide should do a H3000 pedal (complete with the Filter Delays) - with that shiny blue finish
DBX 160
Lexicon reverb
MXR Doubler…
That could be a long list. :) A tc electronic 1210 would be cool (though I do actually prefer the 2290 for chorusing). A Lexicon PCM-style reverb unit would be awesome (with processor power these days, they could probably do all the algorithms from the 41 to the 960 in one pedal). A Yamaha SPX unit would also be cool. How about the MXR Model 126 Flanger Doubler? The Scholz Rockman rack units as pedals would also be cool too. Okay, I'll stop now. :)
Alex Lifeson has used three 2290 racks in his rig forever. When I think of the sound of a guitar, I hear Alex playing and what I hear in my head includes the 2290.
Deep modulation was also available in the original 2290. There was a RAM option and a fast trigger option available. One of these added the deep modulation option with an EPROM Firmware update.
You are such a guru of Gear related stuff Leon! All your vids have a certain degree of interest in them! Thanks!
Glad you think so! What a treat it is to have gear like this to play with.
Hooked - will order one tonight. I have been waiting for that. Used the plugin for recording for a while and had hoped that I can take that out at some point. Now I finally can. What finally won me over was your comparison to the rack at the end.
Killer unit ! Loved the 2290 back in the days , this is a great reissue
Wow! Listening on my laptop speakers and the stereo effect is unbelievable! Placing an order now......
❤❤❤loved the little Landau Tales from the Bulge snippet...
😍
Happy new year man! Great video, maybe the machine is a little complicated, but it is very powerful..i heard amazing sounds in this video. Huge lead sounds.
This is the best demo of this pedal! Nicely done looking forward to getting mine in this week!
Thankyou!
I received the pedal and used it at my gig last night. I totally bonded with it. Best delay pedal I have ever used. Now they just need to put out the 1210 pedal!
Questions is , is it still out of my budget 30 years later 😅
What a sound ! Stage quality ! 👌 😊
Today is a happy day ❤
I was waiting for your review and your thoughts since you own the original and have done demo's of it, I was hoping TC would do this and I bought one as soon as it was announced and I love it, great review thanks Leon.
It more than scratches the itch hey
Incredible palate of sound mate..after hearing this lupin wants one of his very own to start playing guitar... Cant believe tc just came up with this idea.you definitely got my super sounding stamp of approval Leon.. this is for sure a two cigar smokin machine
Killer demo! It sounds really good.
This is the delay I’ve been waiting for ! Thanks Leon and great playing as usual 👍
My pleasure!
Bro your so good at making gear sound amazing always great choice of pieces that show off nor only how good you are but also the equipment. Big fan
I appreciate that!
Awesome video have a good weekend Leon ❤
Wow. I’m ordering mine as soon as I can tear myself away from this demo ! No joke.
In case you ever wonder if your demo videos have any influence on people when they are shopping for gear, let me assure you that they do. I did buy this pedal based mostly on what I heard in this video, and just purchased my second one. The sounds are as you would say...GLORIOUS! (That includes the SCF in front of these for the width).
Thanks again mate, you ROCK!
Two!!!! Truly glorious!
@@LeonTodd Why not? I figure I'll run the SCF for the stereo wide, then the 2290s in series after that. The first 2290 will give me all the chorus and flange effects, then go into the second one for the delays and panning. This will work with my MP-1s.
With my MP-1 Classics and MP-2s, I'll remove the SCF since these both have stereo effects loops, and set the chorus in both for wide, with no rate and adjust the depth. In theory, it should sound killer!
The Basic Delay is already very nice and spacious. It seems that there is already a delay of a few ms between left and right channels and also a phase rotation. Like the spatial effect on D-Two. Great video!
Great review/demo..
OMG this is SIC!! Friedman IR-X + TC 2290 pedal!! Love your channel BTW and of course your playing too!
Bradshaw rack tones in a heartbeat!
I’m in Canada so I hope It’s available soon ! Especially after hearing you play Wow !
While I’m waiting for this pedal to become available in Vancouver Canada I keep coming back to hear Leon do the best demo on UA-cam 👍
Much appreciated! It's a keeper for sure.
Great demo Leon!
Thanks bro!
Sounds wonderful, and as I get older the LED display is a bonus.
Thanks for the great review mate. Heard some gear heads talking smack about it. Someone is getting me it for Xmas. Now I can’t wait brother 🤘🏻
Gonna be a very merry xmas!
Great sounding delay and has a lot of versatility. A little too much menu paralysis for your average guitar player. I like simpler stuff with knobs. I'm using the flashback X4. It has a 2290 with modulation on it which gives me the vibe of this pedal but it doesn't get close to all the versatility. But I can get most of the metal and rock delay tones that I need Plus I pair it with a UA Astra. At some point I'll get the Starlight. My drummer works at UA. Great video as always You're playing as phenomenal. Very good demo It's obvious you've had the original and you worked this new one flawlessly. Your video on this is the best one out there I have seen a couple. Thanks again and have a great weekend 🔥🤘
Thanks again for a great in depth overview. I think I’ll put this on my long term list. I’m a sucker for delays and although I’d like to have this at some point it’s just not a priority right now
Definitely a "nice to have when the time is right" pedal.
Awesome walkthrough - stellar playing as always.
Factory preset 2A (Shreddar Cheez) is made by yours truly🤟🏼
Glad you enjoy the pedal.
Cheers from Denmark🍻
Keep your Sykes cover coming man, yours are the best! Congrats for landing a job in TC
Oh that's awesome! That one goes hard. I've watched your Blue Murder covers A LOT over the last few years as well btw, killer playing dude.
Any chance of a 1210 pedal?
All-analog Tri-Chorus for sure! Funny to me that the reissues are becoming almost as large as the original units. :)
best delay I ever heard, I ll put it on my pedalboard for shure
Trying to catch up on your vids. This thing already sounds outstanding and sounds like the rack unit you've demo'd before! Very cool brother.
Man, that DGT sounds so good!!!.
I'm rocking the wheelchair my friend. Just two months and two weeks left in the machine.. 😂
Be safe and well sir...
Tim...
Godspeed my dude!
@@LeonTodd Thank you brother!
Sounds great! Mahalo🤙🏽
Thanks brother!
So awesome!
i wonder how it compares to Free The Tone Flight Time…
the modulation on the 2290 is amazing tho!
Its Amazing how the 2290 design can create so many sounds with just a single delay line and the use of panning and modulation!!
So well thought out!
@@LeonTodd Right!!, I'm really liking mine. Having the Timeline, Future Factory and the SDE EVH Delay the 2290p has given me a completely different way to approach delays and other time-based effects. More is More!!
Great job, Leon. Very inspiring device and playing. At the end you mentioned some pedals that have similar functions. For those of us wedded to our computers, do you know of any apps or software packages that bring similar sounds inside-the-box? Thank you for all you do, and g'day.
TC do a plugin version of this too
Good morning from north Germany 🇩🇪☕️
Morning!
In my opinion, this new version of the TC Electronic 2290P sounds as good if not better than the old version in the rack. However, technological progress does its job :)
Can hardly tell the difference between rack and pedal Leon, with OD, tiny, bit more top with the pedal, very good price for this unit in the UK, thought it would be more for all the features. 😁👍🎸🔊
Great demo as always. From your clips at the end, the rack does seem to still impart a little more dimension to the sound, but there are definite similarities to be sure - perhaps it was the vintage crustiness. ;) I may have misunderstood a couple of things, so please correct me if I am wrong: You mentioned that the rack could not do deep modulation. It can. Not as obviously or as easily, however. You have to enable it via spec no 103. Of course, your comment could still be correct in that the pedal still might be "deeper". The other comment that I may have misunderstood was regarding tap tempo. The Learn button on the rack is effectively a tap tempo, albeit not on a pedal (although tc electronic did have the 0144 foot controller for the 2290 which did offer learn buttons). Other than that, I thoroughly enjoyed your demo and review.
Ah yep you're right about the "deep" mod mode being one of the many "secret features" of the 2290. Time for me to re-read the manual! Regarding tap tempo, I should have clarified that there's a dedicated set of rhythmic subdvisions.
@@LeonTodd, Yeah, dedicated rhythmic subdivisions were not a thing back then. But, we did manage to tweak the delay time until we got it to sound right. :)
I agree, that chorus is lush.
Can’t wait for the Axe FX 3 compression to this.
Leon! Always with killer demos and play-thrus! Now that you've probably had a good bit of time with this and the Boss SDD, which do you think is the best bet? As far as tones (the best part), features and such?
The DSP engineer Asger Lundsgaard Hansen and the rest of the tc electronic product development team knocked this one out of the park for us! If you're reading this and work for tc electronic, and helped to develop this pedal, congratulations on the remarkable work.
Fabulous sounding pedal demo Leon. This is my personal favorite video of yours yet, except for perhaps the ones of you and Troy sharing secrets and truths from down under!
The pure clean comparison at the end is where the main differences can be marked. The rack unit is brighter with a sharper/harsher attack. The spaciousness and dimension of the pedal is remarkably close to the rack unit and in some ways, the smoother response and expanded filter possibilities of the pedal add versatility. If one were trying to sound exactly like The Edge, I do believe they would need the rack unit to get the exact percussive attack. I personally prefer the pedal now because of how it integrates with my other pedals on a board setup and with the stereo input, I can use it in ways that I could never use the rack unit. It's got a super wide stereo image which can be really great bonus at the end of a stereo pedal chain.
I'm putting in a request for a video where you compare the 2290 P to the Strymon DIG, Fractal 2290 modeling, Eventide H90 Vintage Digital Delay, Boss SDE-3000D, in addition to any other digital delays of repute you may have lingering in the wings.
The digital delay shootout shall be next! Thanks for the awesome delay settings for that first comparison too ;)
@@LeonTodd The sound was glorious in your hands!
As the owner of an original 2290 I obviously want one of these for my bar band gigs.
Eesh. The comparison at the end was interesting. With headphones, the pedal sounded duller on the top end but was essentially close.
Oh yeah that has the 80s/ 90s forgotten sounds!!!
I love the 2290. Best delay/mod ever.
Fan-freaking-tastic❤
Just need a 1210 pedal version now
Yes. This needs to happen.
YES!
Great demo Leon. I loved the tone for "No More Tears". What song were you playing at 4:55 with the flanger?
"I'm Buzzed" by Michael landau :)
Hello from Tokyo, Instant Zakk's sound. ; )
Hello there! Thanks for tuning in. Some of the best coffee I have ever had was when I visited Bear Pond Espresso in Tokyo. Fond memories and I hope to return soon!
Hey @LeonTodd I have the Boss Space Echo RE-202. Do you think this would be better? Thanks! 😎👍
Rack / pedal is a bit night n day on the clean. I think the dirt tones hide it a bit, but there is some more dynamics on the top, some sparkle in the rack. I would be curious to see if a dynamic eq on the high mids set to expander might get you 99% of the way there. Spiff or FabQ3. Otherwise, a pedal 2290 is worth 4 on the floor . Was signal chain straight insert or gtr -> pedal > axe fx?
gtr - axe-fx - pedal in loop
Cool pedal! I use your 2290 blocks in my FM9 (the chorus). It makes me wonder how closely the Fractal could emulate the rest of the 2290s sonic mojo.
I too am wondering this since The Edge did replace his 2290s with the Axe FX and Bradshaw said they couldn’t tell the difference. I can’t wait for that comparison video Leon! 😜
It's bang on. I'll do a video asap
I never owned a 2290, but I did play through them in a studio several times. This pedal makes me want to get one and try it out in my W/D/W rig.
I think an interesting comparison would be to put this pedal against the Roland SDE3000EVH pedal and see how they compare in terms of tone, performance and ease of use.
They both did a pretty bang on job of recreating the workflow of the originals. The BOSS expands on the original by turning it into a true dual delay, which I wouldn't have minded with this. 2290 Chorus and delay from the one unit would have been awesome!
I have both and the SDE EVH pedal is an amazing dual delay platform where the 2290p is a single delay with more panning and modulation options. The other differences are the SDE EVH has more Routing Options and the Noise Suppression Circuit. I love both formats for obvious reasons and would hate to have to choose between them as only having one delay which is why I have 4 delays on my board. The others are a Strymon Timeline and a Free the Tone Future Factory that Uncle Leon mentioned in this Vid!!
@@LeonTodd Thanks Leon! That's very helpful. The TC 2290 had the most pristine sounds as I remember it from the studio sessions I did with it. I never used the chorus in it as I recall because they also had the TC 1210 when I wanted to put some chorus on my guitar. That was another fantastic rack processor for chorus and flange back then.
I do agree though, it would have been awesome to have dual delays in this one pedal.
@@MrSpike7590 Thank you for the feedback! Personally, I wouldn't have any use for four delays in my rigs, but a dual delay for stereo effects would be ideal for me. As I mentioned to Leon, the 2290 had the most pristine effect on the original sound of any delay I've ever used, because all the others, including the Roland delays, did color the sound to some degree. Playing a stereo rig has been a lot of fun for me for several decades now, but I'm really liking the center channel with no effects at all these days. It just sounds better to my ears now overall. So, it comes down to this; Boss SDE, or two 2290 pedals? Hmmm.
@@harleyhexxe9806 Check out the Free The Tone Future Factory dela. It's Stereo with 2290 vibe. You'll be surprised at how good it really is.
I just got the EVH SDE3000,and I have an AxeFXIII,so I need another delay like I need a hole in the head,but it’s a 2290!!…back in the 80’s a 2290 was my dream piece of gear…I thought the pedal held up well against the rack…Close enough for Rock and Roll..
Yeah and that layput with the buttons is super fun!
Where's that riff at 2:32 coming from? I think I've heard it and I recognize it but I don't remember who's been played by... Or am I wrong and it was just an impro? What a sound tho. \m/
Hey Man.. i think in the pedal can dell' the time Whit more chorus about rack.. or not ?
Thk u
The rack demo samples definitely sound brighter than the comparative pedal samples. Are there any input variations or setting differences that might explain / counter this anomaly ?
I've measured the frequency response of my 2290 and it's mostly flat except for the 10k range, so I imagine that accounts for the differences
there's a great sale going on for TC Electronic plugins
Hi,Leon,very nice demo!thanks.
I want "VS demo"with timeline.
I'm interested in your feeling about timeline and 2290.
I love your riff of heaven above.
Whenever I grab my guitar, I play it every times.
anyway, No one show me enough demo about this pedal which is playing with heavy drive lead sound and delay on UA-cam but you did it.
I want to scream "nice work!!" to you.
Thanks mate! I need to borrow another timeline soon
@@LeonTodd
Thanks,Leon.Please take it eazy if you don't have timeline now.
bytheway,About rack and pedal, rack had more clear presence,I felt.
Though these differences are very small.
I just wait your new clips!I'm rooting for you!
Could you do a series call something like “cool old pedals” ?; review legacy pedals on the hunt for a good tone on a budget ….
That's more or less my "great or garbage" series
What drive are you using at 7:45? What a tone!
Using the Axe-Fx for all the amp tones, USA Lead Mid model
I remember LUSTING for anything TC Electronic.....pedal, rack....back in '89 I picked up the wonderful TC Chorus pedal...never cared about any other chorus after that. At the same time I got the TC Sustain-Parametric Pedal, and never needed or wanted any other compressor...that was back in the day when TC was still based in Denmark.....now that it's owned by Behringer(sp?), I hope the quality is still high......I wish they would reissue the whole line of TC's pedals....maybe make a smaller pedal size delay....something more straightforward and simple......
Still based in Denmark🤟🏼
@@TrebbienGuitarGreat to know!!!!
Hey Leon, I have a question for you, as I am looking to buy either this pedal or the Free the tone future factory for a 2290 style Delay?
If you want the closest thing you can get to the real 2290 as a pedal, get this. If you want something that takes that template but changes it up a little and can do dual delays, FF
@@LeonTodd That's what I'm talking about! Thank you! I want the dual delays. You are awesome!
Lush and luxuriant. The interface looks to be a bit of a challenge compared to some, but I think the rewards are worth it.
It's an acquired taste hey :p
😂 the little protection cover is weird but handy! Do you think this will be a new trend? Turning classic rack stuff into pedals?
There's quite a few companies reissuing their own or other rack classics - BOSS DC-2w and SDE-3000, Eventide Micropitch/Tricerachorus/Blackhole, UA Golden (Lexicon 224 model) and TC with this
@@LeonTodddon’t forget, Korg put their classic SDD 3000 in a pedal quite a few years ago.
Bonjour .
Tc 2290 P vs free the tone delay, SVP
Oh, it sounds awesome and would nicely complement my board. BTW, for the life of me, I can't remember what the riff at 2:50 is...
Ragdoll, Heaven Above :D
Leon! What's the riff you play when you start playing with the flanger sounds?
"I'm Buzzed" by Michael Landau :)
@@LeonTodd ahhhh thank you!!
0,7 is your favourite because it is the speed on Symphonic 😀
THIS
I don’t care what it sounds like. I just want that glowing on my desk. Lol
Aww yeah.
It makes me think it would be great if you could try the D Two from TC. I always felt it may be a hidden treasure
Been trying to find one for a decent price for a while now!
@@LeonTodd easy to find around here for 100 to 200 €, I admit it might be more complicated outside EU
wish song is this? from Michael Landeau I love it, can't find the song, cool riff
"I'm Buzzed"
Great design, great sounding.
But I think is just a little bit behind the Flight Time by Free the Tone, isn’t it?
Flight Time is mono. Future factory does some similar stuff but is it's own thing compared to the 2290.
@@LeonTodd yeah, FT is mono.
My setup is mono too, so I don’t which one to pick
Big question is, this or boss sde 3000?
Very...COOL...COol...cool!!!
Great video - I always wanted a 2290 back in the day, but they were simply too expensive… and now they are just too old and unreliable. I know I’m probably the odd man out here… but why not release this thing as a rack unit as well? I’d grab one!
Kinda like how Klark Teknik (also owned by behringer) have the Roland SDD320 recreation!
@@LeonToddIndeed… However, having heard the Klark and the Dimension back to back, they are rather different beasts.
I badly need a good delay for big rock solo. Please advise for I'm confused of all the delay pedals demo on UA-cam and can't make up my mind.
Spend a little - BOSS DD-8
Spend a little more - Strymon BRIG
Spend a bit more - 2290P, Strymon DIG, Source Audio Nemesis
@@LeonTodd Thanks!🙏 I really dig a lot of what you do!
Nice, I can have my 2290 back.
Is this the only delay pedal that does ducking? If so I’m in!
There's plenty of delay pedals that offer a ducked delay mode, but very few give you such granular control
Some incorrect info here. The DEEP MODULATION is an original feature of the rack unit. Fron OS V28.xx TC implemented a deeper modulation ratio as requested by many users; the original ratio was very gentle and didn't allow for the type of modulation guitarists were going for in the '80s. And no... modern technology is not really making the modulation depth better or more advanced. It's actually the opposite. Old delays used sample rate modulation so an ANALOG oscillator (LFO) would change the microvoltage of the converters to shift the sample rate. That was causing the detuning efx. Some delays can get extremely wild at that, namely the Lexicon PCM42. You can't do this with current algorithmic tech... so modulation doesn't sound as deep as back then.
We're through the looking glass here people!!!!
@@jupjuck And it's better be like that! For a new product claiming to be the same as one of the most important and unique delays ever made. Analog technology in early digital audio is not a minor detail. It's actually the main reason why those wonders have that kind of sound you can't get from current tech.
its 90% of the rack... but i think nova delay IB will be 99% of this pedal, would you mind comparing they both?
GEP50. SPX90
How would you say this compares with the Boss SDE-3000 EVH?
Different animals - the SDE is a dual delay so you can do some interesting spatial and rhythmic things with it, whereas this is more of a modern recreation of the old rack.
@@LeonTodd thanks. That’s the gist I am getting, but it’s hard to know without a place to go to and try them myself.
what is that riff at 2.30 please it's awesome
Ragdoll - Heaven Above
thanks awesome@@LeonTodd
HEY LEON, OFF TOPIC BUT ARE YOU PLAYING SYDNEY GLAMFEST 24!?!?!?!
Just Melbourne unfortunately
unreal.
You, sir, are bad for my bank account. I have a TC Alter Ego X4, a Helix, but this hhing scratches ALL THE ITCHES.
Delay pedals - can't live with'em, can't live without'em!
Whatever... I still regret selling my 2290.
it's a beautiful looking thing and i assume it sounds great, but i summed to mono while listening to this and heard absolutely nothing.
Quick! To the Fractal Forum to start a new thread!!
I had to set my phone in surround sound.
The 2290P sounds incredible, but in my opinion it very badly needs an INSTRUCTION MANUAL ! It's so darn complex and non-intuitive. And the need to press Preset every time you want to turn the knob to select another preset. Ridiculous.
You can move one preset up or down by pressing two footswitches at the same time. That said, I do agree that the manual that says this is too short to make someone able to release the pedals full potential.
Well unless it has a color touch screen and usb C millenials will thumb down this.