Icf 101 walk thru of the process from start to finish with some video of the pour.
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Do a complete overview of the icf procces from state to finish on a very hot job site
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We actually used our ICF above grade Storm Shelter 2 weeks ago when we had 140+ MPH straight line winds go threw.
And it was not a gust. Substained for 35-45 minutes from the NWS. At one point the air pressure went up or down quick and everyones ears popped. We have 12" walls and 12" top, that we pumped as a monolithic unit. Bar is 12" OC. .
Mother Nature can huff and puff all she wants, she ain't blowing our safe room down.
Awesome
Great video.We have used nurdura several times.Our corners did the same thing.We started using the vertical joint clip on the top and bottom of the first run of blocks.Since we started doing that we have not had a problem.
I always enjoy your videos, coming up on the anniversary of hurricane Irma in 2017 in the Florida Keys I can tell you firsthand how much I enjoy my ICF
I am certified in ICF construction. We use Integra Spec panels with 6" cavities. It is a great way to build. Best way to do a basement for sure. We have done several entire houses out of them but they are more expensive than a conventional framed house. Very energy efficient! Great video!
Thanks
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Thanks for the job tour and the explanation of how it is done.
I primarily use the build block system in western PA. They all have pros and cons. I like the waterproofing your using. We strap our corners but everyone has their own way. Very nice job. Stay safe
Thanks and yes yon need with them
Very informative. I like how you walked us threw it all. It's getting so easy to form walls. Did you ever set pre made concrete walls were you set them on a tar strip on the footer then put a gasket in the Corner and bolt them together. Very nice vid Mike. Keep em coming ,!!!!!!!
Thanks and no I have not
People think plastic is weak. They don't realize there are thousands of plastics. Not all are the same. Infact a plastic tank has been designed and built. It can take tremendous forces. Not all plastics are the same. Infact years ago I was in the mobile home business. For many years the standard was to use treated wood for the piers to set on. I never found one that wasn't rotted after a few years. A friend of mine invented a plastic pier pad. He had a troubled getting them accepted by the state and industry. Despite them exceeding the standards and greatly outperforming wood. Today it is unacceptable to use wood. You must use plastic. Remember things change and get better. I would love to see plastic studding for homes. Plastic can have more strength than wood and will not rot. God bless
Yup. Very good point
It's not plastic it's engernd material my k holer teacher told us. its not kawsekie. But it was fun and me and my rep played nici after when I left Honda sucked
Plant a pointy bush on a water or sewer line
@Pennsylvania Mike yes found that out the other day when a spray bottle of cherry air freshener broke over my leg aka uv does suck plus this is liquid sent not that cardboard crap i had a 1\4 qt in my pants and shoe. Though i gave 3 nice ladys a show 😂
Great video Mike as always. Angel all your videos Mike they make me laugh and how you talked about all of the materials that you use makes it very interesting thank you for that
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We don't have this construction process over here, only block and brick or stone and timber frame for housing purposes.
And basements are usually concrete walls or block, both covered in a similar way yours are...... good to see the process Mike !!
Think MBTS enjoyed using the camera too 👍😎
Thanks for the Nudura primer. The contractors in this area, far North, use the Logix system.
Best wishes
Really helpful video. I’m planning to do my own ICF foundation and you make it so easy to understand. Watched multiple vids you have made in them, maybe next time you could talk a little more about penetrations like how you do windows and beam pockets. Great stuff DP!!
Good deal and will do that
@@DirtPerfect do you use a vibrater at all in 9 foot walls?
Man I would hire y'all in heart beat if I lived over there, and man behind the scenes can not complain to no one not even HR if he does would have to put him in time out. Mike your work speaks for you my friend, take care stay safe god bless
Thanks Donald
The Gas cap is probably in the water cooler.
Mike,
“Nudura” should use this video of your step by step explanation(s) for their sales promotion.
I have watched your other videos involving this product, and each of them have intricate insight into the assembly and final turn over to the owner etc.,
This one puts it all into one neat package...
Excellent work sir.
Thank you.
Oh, and good job for you too, Aaron.
Thanks appreciate that
When Aaron was cameraman and said that he taught dirt how to level the top of the wall and he downed tools and looked at him, he must have over stepped the mark as he corrected himself real quick😂
God bless and be safe and I have you all in my prayers
Pretty awesome walls. Thanks for the details.
Thanks for watching
Did you notice how Mr. D.P. ears went up like a Doberman, when you mentioned how he's taking everyone out for dinner? LoL
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Congratulations on the 80K buddy. Well deserved and it will grow even more. I’m in Louisville so my and my 4 yr old boy will damn sure be there when you come. We play with his toy trucks and we pretend we’re you, MBTS, and Kleeman lol. Love the content brother. See you soon in Louisville
Awesome and thanks
Thank you very much. Most helpful.
That was a great informative video, thank you.
Thanks
Good Video, Striate to the point. Hit all the highlights with tips & tricks.
Thanks
This is a great beginners video!
I’m wanting to possibly do ICF for a beach home and I’m having a hard time finding a builder that can do this. Theyre all still wanting to do stick construction. At the beach!
Seems like coastal builders would be all over this but in my area they all just wanted to do everything old school.
This is ideal for for the beach
Looking good Mike!
Ummm, those external vibration tools... seems they are more widely available than first thought 😂
Fantastic video, Mr Concrete Perfect!
Thanks buddy
Okay new name for man behind the scenes" sir talks a lot".
Bobby B it’s all day! You would think I would get tired of it but when he heads home I miss it 😝
@@DirtPerfect somebody needs to make his logo... With a Jabber Jaw Shark on it!
But he makes the day so much more fun, least that’s what I’d have to keep telling myself haha. Nice video as always!
Great video and that makes a great basement wall. Next time you should splash man behind the scenes with concrete 😂. That would make him look like he's done something. Stay safe out there and see yall next time
Oh don’t worry he got it on this last one we did he had wore a nice shirt to the job and it got a little concrete on it 😜😂
TY soooooo much!!!!! Great lesson!!!
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Thanks
You went fast over the no rebar in the first course. Why no rebar there? I’m learning quite a bit. I began looking into ICF last summer. I will have an ICF basement in my next house. Great work.
The drill vibrator is still available. You can get them through Tools Are Us. Not sure if it is the same brand. God bless
Good information
@27:00
TMBS Aaron needs the extra 4’ of Dirt pile to be head and shoulders above the home owner.
😂🤣😂🤣
Lol
Mr. DP. I want to give you a nightmare you will not believe. Go to a website called "retired and happy in the Philippines". Look at how a house is made down there on the Philippines. Especially the hand mixed and hand poured concrete columns and the cinder blocks. Believe me, you will have nightmares. That's why I wish you were here to build ours next year.!!!
how do you secure the 2x4 band board around the outside? to keep walls straight, it appears it's on edge and would need toe screwed?
Toe
Incredible building practices here on the icf. That said, I’d be concerned about walking those trenches - no shoring or anything seems like a massive hazard.
Depends on the dirt and overdid
Could you give some more detail on the beam pocket how upu frame it out? Will need to do this soon, thanks!
Have some other videos check them out thanks
Do you find any advantages to pouring your footings then setting the first icf coarse, then pouring the basement slab, then stacking the rest of the icf? Is this method a waste of time?
Hate doing that spend the whole time waiting on the plumber and protecting the floor you just poured and drill holes to mount braces
Good to learn a bit about that type building and how to do it so was wondering what is added on the outside after the waterproofing is it a cement render??
When you walked past Aaron and complemented him on doing a good job and he didn't reply with a smart comment you must have shocked him that much he was speechless! Now that took some doing
GREAT video thank you and thumbs UP. :)
Thanks appreciate that
Awesome video! We’re looking at building using ICF here in the Greenville, South Carolina area. Anyone in this area you guys recommend???
Unfortunately no I would call the batch plant and ask them
Nice weather over there bro, pissing down over here in New Zealand, got the Komatsu D53 dozer stuck this afternoon, gave the R210 Hyundai digger a work out pulling the bitch out
Lol not good
umm 9:30...the wall under more tension is the one holding back the earth (tension side in the inside face of wall). you have it backwards
Ok
Rolex, Timex.....Mbts needs hooked on Phonicxxxxx!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
6 inch won,t work here in mo this clay has 65 percent swell rate 8 but if building again i would use icf
Look at the spec you might me suppressed
Great and informational video. I am going to use Nudura for my house as well. I was just wondering how many vertical joint clips you use in the third course and up. In the manual is says to use 4 for each joint on the first 2 courses, but nothing on how to proceed on the other courses. Can you tell me how many you use? Thank you :) and thanks for the helpfull videos!
Good ? And depends on the location of the joint in the wall
Where did you buy the wallbrator from? Would you have a contact you could provide??
Check out the video on icf bracing links in the comments
Do yall use the vertical joint clips and the form lock.I call the form lock ladder wire.
No built in work nudut
When you're pouring concrete into the ICF - Did I hear correctly you shouldn't do more than 2 stacks at a time? Do the 2 stacks around the perimeter and go back around and do another 2 stacks? Wondering because I can't find anyone willing to pour the ICF in our area, so my husband and I decided to do it ourselves. I'm scared. LoL
lol it’s not hard just a few tricks that help we go between two and 3 feet lifts at a time have several videos on install icf on the channel hope they help if not email me at mike@dirtperfect1.com
@@DirtPerfect Thank you. I will check them out and exhaust all options before harassing and bombarding your email :D
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Aaron must be fair worn out doing all that camera work. It seems to me that Aaron should be taking everyone out to dinner for letting him take it easy while they did the hard work.
Lol like the way you think
don't worry MBTS--cause everytime DP shows us one of these pours, i ask him where the basement drain is at. ha! i'm not knocking the type of basement wall uns use-as my basement was was a poured wall--and i could of used such a type on my lower side wall for sure. but i got french drains around my house-and basement drains in the floors as well. lol tell us what type of home is going on top -i can't figure out the flares of the wall like that? odd i think?
Lol
What name brand ICF blocks you recommend?
Nudura
So where did Mr. Dirt Perfect take everyone to eat? Somewhere nice, I hope.
Denny’s 😁
how high can you go i only see you do basement can you also do first and 2nd floor
We have went as high as 30' but we only pour 10' vertical of concrete at a time. Next day 10' and so on. You can even pour roof systems with ICF.
6 inch six floors
Do those block compress at all? I built a house out of ICF about 12 years ago and they compressed just a bit.
Not much
I bet he talks in his sleep
Great video y'all ever get mad at one another I bet not just laugh and go on
Lol
What about the drain fabric type material,(forgot the brand name) that sticks to the wall and has channels to run the water down the wall. Does that work as well??
Yes just don’t like it as well
That’s right Matt 1 1/4 “ is an 1 1/4”
"yeah that guy in the white shirt over there... the one i told to get bent when he started telling me what to do... turns out he's the boss. who knew?"
are yaw using 789 stone or chat mix
River gravel
Sorry I'm new- Do you have a video on addressing termite barriers and ICF?
No not a real thing
@@DirtPerfect There are termite inspectors who won't inspect an ICF home, so would like to see you do a discussion about why it's not an issue. I would love to not have to go to the trouble of termite blockers if I don't need to do it. But there are definitely people who say I should. Might be worth a video about it.
Hey Mikey question for you. Have you ever had any of those icf blocks blow out under pressure?
No
@@DirtPerfect good thing it's never happened, that be one helluva mess
That looks like it's gonna be one big house #smallhouseenvy
Is this stuff waterproof will it allow water to come in side the basement
Better not let water in That’s not good 😬😁
why do you treat cap kleaman like a step child i like him
We don’t we love him
how long can you adjust the wall before the cement is hard
About a hr
Depends on the weather
You usually have a couple guys dedicated to watching the string during the pour.
What areas of Indiana do you build in?
Southern
Dirt Perfect
Do you know any good company for ICF install in Indianapolis Area?
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Mike your shirt is a little wet what happen lol
Lol the heat
How are the 2x6 attached at the top of the wall on their edge?
Toe screwed
@@DirtPerfect OK, sorry I missed that, I'll go back and rewatch. Thanks.
Why don't you treat your corners like your commend splice in your walls. That should prevent blow outs.
A good boss would have gone or sent someone out to wash out that 87 octane in the water cooler to some Water and Ice.
Come on man behind the scenes you should settle for a barbecue or cookout over him taking you out to eat.
The gas was all my fault and yes I agree MBTS well deserves a top choice steak 👍
You need to edit out motormouth
Hell no
@19:20
They smell like @$$ and taste like @.....ohh. He said Gas. 🤪
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Disagree with you on your vibration. You don't know if external vibration worked since you're doing ICF's, and any voids or honeycombing is hidden by the insulation. That drill attachment looks like a gimmick, and will not vibrate nearly as well as an internal vibrator. I recommend internal vibration, as does the Portland Cement Association. I am a retired structural engineer who did over 2400 houses, and never seen a problem with a foundation when internal vibrators were used properly. Cheers, good video by the way, don't mean to bash and trash, but it's in the blood.
Interesting 15 years and never had a problem
I think there were three men too many staff on this job.
Really only had 3 guess I can run the home I owner and gc off next time 🤷♂️
damned concrete guys... always playing with their vibrators on the job.
There were 8 men on the job
And three that did something
Well four there was also someone filming
That's neither getting four men too many
That could be better
on a good day it only takes three. when something goes wrong with the pump or the wall, it takes ten. Pour days are all hands on deck. that comes from experience and knowing that having hands ready to go if something goes wrong, is more cost effective than playing catch up. concrete doesn't wait for you.
@@CaptainKleeman You are right
I didn't think about that.
What is the grout mix and slump? Your channel is awesome, I enjoy your vids.
Better ? For the batch plan they have a icf mix that works awesome we pour at a 5 slump
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ok so what do you do after the concrete is poured? it really looks like this system depends on the styrofoam remaining in place forever.... not sure how that could possibly be a good idea, styrofoam doesnt hold up to wear and tear, or being under ground very well at all, and i feel sorry for anyone who has to come do a repair job 10 years down the road when the concrete cracks and starts leaking. i know i'd straight out turn a job down on the spot if i walked in to fix a crack in a concrete wall only to find 4 inches of styrofoam before i could even see whats going on with the concrete.
That’s the hole point of the system
@@DirtPerfect what do you mean? to leave the customers with a mess that no one will ever want to do repair work on if something goes wrong? seriously asking, not trolling, though if that IS the whole idea... that kinda makes anyone who uses and promotes these systems a scam artist at best in my opinion.
Gotta have a good bud to work with. Thanks for the informative video enjoyed the video keep em coming ole boy
Very informative, Aaron is very special! Thanks
All jokes aside I know I give him a hard time but I would be lost without him he is a great guy just don’t let him know I said that😁
Hot days and concrete work will make a man grumpy. Just sayin.
Yup
Just starting my own nudura build, thanks for the video.
I'll bet you're not missing this anymore. I used to work with wood forms years ago. None of its fun.👍
You have to go back and show how this house gets built on this with no footing on the open basement and offset walls. I've never seen a setup like this
jeffery miller thanks for watching refer to previous videos I’m going to be to busy to make it back out
im just wondering what the hell happens after the pouring is done.... how do you finish the interior? do you just live with exposed styrofoam for the rest of your life, never allowing your kids to handle sharp objects or do normal kid stuff that might damage the styrofoam? how do you keep the styrofoam from rotting under ground on the outside of the building? i know i've personally never seen a piece of styrofoam last more than a couple years under ground without turning to mush. what do you do when the concrete cracks after 10 years and you cant find anyone willing to fix the problem because there is 4 inches of styrofoam covering it followed by 2 inches of plastic sticking out every few inches? it does look like an easy to use system, but its really not very well thought out and i guarantee if you go with a system like this, you will have massive issues a few years down the road. also... with all those plastic ties in the wall, packed so tightly together, you'll be losing quite a bit of strength in the wall, and every place where the plastic ties penetrate through the face of the concrete is a potential place for a crack to start... so thats what, like 400 potential crack starters in this particular build? then there is the fact that a basement should never need to be insulated in the first place... dirt is pretty much the best insulator in the world and basements are naturally surrounded by it, which is why a basement is generally the coolest room in any house on a hot summer day, or the warmest part of a house on a frigid winter day.
DP, what can I say....this was one of the most informative videos I have ever seen.....I have been wondering about ICF and you are an expert.....I WISH I had known about it in 1994 when I built our last house....I had a basement and knowing nothing about construction just went with what the builder said but the basement leaked until I sold the house 2 years ago......I tried everything including digging all around and putting a membrane around the foundation and backfilling with rock and it helped but the basement still would leak at the very base of the foundation on hard rains.....I told the new owner at least.....Thank you for posting
Thanks for watching and the words of kindness and having a great crew is my biggest help could not do it without them 👍
honestly, at first glance i thought this system was pretty cool but then i got to thinking from my own profession's point of view. i have spent the last 25 years repairing damaged masonry work of all types from brick laying to block and stone laying to tuck-pointing, epoxy injections, stucco, etc. if i got a call about a basement wall leaking and went out to see what the issue is only to find the concrete in question covered in 4 inches of styrofoam, i would simply turn the job down on the spot. a system like this is great if everything works as intended and accidents never happen, but i guarantee that you'll have leaks no one in the world is willing to mess with within the first 10 years of pouring a basement using a system like this, unless you live in a desert environment where rain is nearly non-existent.
Good video Mike and videographer did a super job 👍👍
Thanks
15:38, why is the waterproofing sheet set on a vertical instead of a staircase horizontal...
Where the first sheet would be on the bottom, or a spray waterproofing that's elastomeric...
Because that’s how they recommend to instal and it’s much easier
I can already see myself dropping my mag off in the wall.
Lol
Thanks Mike 😊
Always make your princess prime out and waste a bit before pumping.
Yup
@@DirtPerfect i cum from concrete 😂 my brother is a princess aka prima dona pump operator also dick head too the maxx. We mechanics hated them but you knw. Fix and go
Planning on building a 2 story multi family I’d like to have a conversation with you regarding that. Possibly another for you guys.
Email is the best way thanks
Can’t find the video but saw one recently of the pin grabbing quick connect on the 304 . I would like to try and build a version similar. Could you point me to a video of it or a brand where I can get some ideas? Thanks.
Look up USA attachments that’s the one I have
R-54?
Is it a wooden building on top of that plastic and concret wall. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to these sorts of buildings.
In this case yes
if you know the corners are a problem why don't you put some strapping on there?
We do
Yes, quoting numbers as you make a video is difficult. You are trying to think ahead what you will be saying next and not as much as what you are saying now.