🔴 LEICA R Lenses on Leica M Camera
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2021
- Leica R lenses on M body for photography / Leica R lenses review + Leica R lens adapter to M
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This video shows me using Leica R lenses on M cameras. Leica Elmarit-R 135mm f2.8, Leica Summicron-R 50mm f2 (v1), Leica Summicron R 35mm f2 and Leica Elmarit R 24mm f2.8 - All of these lenses I use on the Leica M240 camera but they will also work with a Leica M10 if you want to use the EVF or LiveView. For wide Leica R lenses you could use the Leica M8, Leica M9 and even Leica M6 and other Leica M film cameras but you need to zone focus. Leica R lenses are not rangefinder coupled. See the end of the video for Leica R lens photography and photos with Leica R lens on the M240.
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I've often wondered about R lenses. Thanks for explaining them so well Matt!
Thanks Lucy, I was glad to discover them too :)
🤭 That first black and white portrait in the sample section is unbelievable. I would watch an entire video about that image.
Thanks Sean! I tried to include a bit of a mix. I shot 4 rolls with these lenses today so plenty to come in future vids :)
Film not digital. You can tell from about 4 miles out - good stuff. agree with Sean
Thanks Matt, I was looking forward to see you testing R-lenses on the L-mount cameras you own and bought a 60mm f/2.8 Macro-Elmarit-R together with a cheap adapter just for fun. With the adapter measuring a full inch in depth and the heavy glass, it is quite challenging to take pictures, but I am very happy with the results. Looking forward to see you do the same on your SL and Panasonic. Let's hope the R's remain at that price level! Cheers.
Hi Jos! See my Flickr, I was using R glass on L mount yesterday (see Patreon for all images/ gear info etc). Yes I think the R lens prices have already been up a few years but sadly I can't see them ever being cheaper than now!
Great overview as always, Matt. For anyone interested in macro work, there’s a macro extension tube and I’ve used it with my 50mm Summicron-R and it gets insanely close.
Thank you! Yes thanks, correct you can get macro tube for R glass
Nice watch Matt!!! I have the blue version. Oh and this video is a great one. I want the Leicaflex and these lenses would be perfect
Thanks Peter! Great to find someone else with this watch! (Getting a lot of watch comments haha - mine has the bike mount on so will unclip to go onto bike FYI)(if looks bigger). See next video on SL vs R :) Out soon!
I do similar things between M and R lenses. I have several Leicaflex bodies-SL and SL2 both Mot and normal) along with the M5 and recent MP. With adapters I wind up using either R or M lenses on my Leica mirror-less bodies-SL and SL2-S. Novoflex makes excellent adapters. I also use the Leica M to SL adapters in order to speed up lens changes-as they have the 6-bit decoders. I also use some Novoflex daters to adapt Zeiss (Hassy) l sees to my SLs, as well as the Nikon F to Leica M adapter., for some very exotic Nikkor glass.
Great collection! Agreed I have Nikon F adapters for some of my nice Nikkor glass (I still need to do a video on the 200mm f2!) :) I shoot Hassy H and Hassy V so have those lenses too but current use on their native bodies.
How well does the Novoflex R to L body adapter work with your SL2? I'm torn between Novoflex and Leica. Driving me crazy trying to decide.
Matt great video I might get into Leica R lenses thanks .
Thanks Rafael!
That Summicron 35 is beautiful!
Thanks yes I got lucky finding that one. Probably my favourite of the 4.. it’s what I see to record the latest Voigtlander video.
Great kit of Leica R lenses! You should get the summicron 90mm as well it's beautiful!
Thanks Luca! Yes I’m keeping my eyes open for one for the R bodies, I have in M mount, amazing lens!
Really helpful. Thank you. I am looking for a leicaflex sl right now.
Thanks James, see my 2 Leicaflex SL videos, don't get the 28mm as it wont fit that camera.
I have my M9 I can not sell as it has corrosion and even a cracked IR filter, so maybe the idea of getting R lenses is a way to have extra fun but Q is what about focusing? By DOF scale? Thank you, Matt for your videos, it keeps me inspired
Hi Victor, thanks. Sorry about your M9. Yes you'd need to zone focus so look at the wider R lenses, 21, 28, ..maybe 35 max I think.
I have that 24mm! It’s fantastic! Wish Leica Made more 24mm M lenses
Yes it’s a nice FL for walkabout for sure 👍🏻
I use 25 Biogon for M. See that video
R mount lenses will adapt to Canon EOS bodies too (manual aperture only). Note that the R mount zoom lenses are Minolta optics, the Minolta mount version likely being cheaper than the Leitz branded version if you intend to adapt to a mirrorless camera.
Thanks Edwin, not all zooms are Minoltas. I bought the Leica specific ones. I know the Minolta and Sigma collaboration ones are cheaper though. (And good tip thank you) 🙏🏻
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FotodioX makes the same M/R adapter for 1/10th of the price Novoflex is asking for. I have no experience with this specific adapter but use several FotodioX adapters for Sony E-mount without ever having an issue. Supposedly the Leitz 21 Super-Angulon R-lenses are highly regarded to be used on digital M cameras with adapter.
Thanks, yes I’ve nothing against cheap adapters and do have some but I read a bad review for this so thought better pay a bit more as it will be well used. I had the 80-200 zoom that I shared in an earlier vid so that puts a lot of strain on the mount. Thanks about the 21mm!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom i also read the reviews. I have seen a pattern there that often mechanical parts made in China receive bad reviews. From about 10 Chinese adapters i bought not even one gave me trouble.i found them very solid built. It's likely that some of them are outliers due to less good quality control. But I always figured that for the price the risk is low.
@@MB-or8js yes great point thanks. (I usually buy cheap ones it’s just Leica M stuff I tend to get better ones)..not sure why!
Missed this before, but for your SL you should really try the Apo-Telyt-R 180 f3.4, a superb optic and quite reasonable today.
Thanks! 180mm is often a bit long for me but I did look at that lens several times
Thanks for this info Matt. Thinking to buy an R mount 135mm for gimbal work. We have the 90M mount and the lens barrel extends 3-4 cm when focusing which upsets the balance a little.
I wanted to ask if you wouldn’t mind to let us know how many cm the lens barrel extends on the 135 R mount? Thanks much!
Thanks Aaron, i've not replied as I was trying to remind myself to dig out the lens to measure it for you. The hood extent on these and the 90 so that will affect balance too if use them.
Both thumbs up, the dial on the Lumix stands on manual.
Thanks!
Nice overview. I already started to get some R lenses, namely the MACRO-ELMARIT-R 1:2.8 / 60 and the ELMARIT-R 1:2.8 / 135, to shoot with my Leica SL (Typ 601) after getting some PENTAX K Mount lenses to expand my already existent portfolio of MF Nikkors and Leica M lenses which now can all be used on a superb digital body.
I am still looking for the SUPER-ANGULON-R 1:3.4 / 21 at a good price...
Both great lenses! I need to use mine more. 21mm is harder to find cheap!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I love the Super-Angulon M 1:4 so much on my M8. Unfortunately it doesn’t fit onto the SL (Typ 601) because of the thick shutter frame so I need to get the R version instead to get those superstraight lines.
@@Funktrainer ah yes, there are a few lenses that fit M and not SL. Like the Jupiter 12 in my last video.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Just did a comparison between the mid range 135s from Canon (1:2.8 FDn), Leica (1:2.8), PENTAX (1:2.5 K) and the 70-300mm AF D Nikkor set at 135mm. I have to admit that the plastic Nikkor has the nicest bokeh rendering of the bunch, the rest is pretty close with their octagons, the PENTAX and the Leitz have more CAs as they are older.
If I’d like to have the ultimate quality and like to carry double the lens weight I will always prefer a real pro 135mm like my 135mm 1:2 Ai-S or one of the similar ones from Pentax * or Zeiss. Leica has sadly nothing comparable to offer in the 135 range.
thank for your share ! I have one question need your help ! Does zone focus has enable or not ( in view windows ) from leica r lens on your leica m, sir ?
Hi Nghiem, good question. You can zone focus any lens on the M and a good adapter should mount the lens so the lens numbers face up so you can read them. From memory I have done this with the 24mm R lens on the M. If you have M240/M10 etc with LiveView you can check focus on LCD.
I highly recommend trying the 60mm Macro Elmarit R if you can get a hold of one for a reasonable price. Might just be my favourite all-purpose Leica lens ever made. Super versatile with the close focusing range, and lovely rendering, of course :-) I use it on my M240 all the time.
The 50mm Summilux-R is also absolutely amazing btw. Less than half the price of the M version, but the rendering is basically identical and you get 45cm close focusing range!
Thanks! I did look at them a few times. (I just got the 35-70 f4 which has macro)(one for a future video!) :)
Thanks about the Lux..that would be very tempting if I see one for low light.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I've been eyeing the 35-70 F4 myself :-) Looking forward to the future video!
@@thedondeluxe6941 lots of reading lead me to it. Google Erwin Puts 35-70 then get the wallet ready! :) I had to import mine.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Googling Leica lenses is a dangerous game for your wallet! :-)
Hi Matt. Congrats on your SL purchase this summer. I have an SL2. Not happy with options for the 70-200mm zoom range. Checking out the Leica Vario-Elmar-R 80-200mm/f4.0 ROM. Do you have any thoughts for ease of use and data transfer between the Leica R-Adapter L and the Novoflex version? I realize the price difference but I'm more concerned with quality and ability between my SL2 and an R-lens.
Hi Peter, thank you! Yes I have the 80-200, great optics especially stopped down a little. Yes its ROM so gives EXIF on Leica or Novaflex. Much cheaper than SL version but no AF if you want that.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks! I been searching for the difference between the two adapters and so far, the limited info indicated only the Leica adapter gave EXIF to the images. The images of the Novoflex R to L body don't show any coding. The Novoflex R to M does show coding.
I've six R-lenses for my M240, but they're very slow to use. The image quality is good, but a bit less sharp than M-lenses. Good video!
Thanks Paul, nice collection! Yes I agree with what you say.
hi sir, leica r lenses can be focus on view windows body leica m240 or not ?
@@Mb5659 Yes, they can. No problem, but if you have an EVF, it's easier to focus.
I find R-lenses interesting, but have never had a chance to try out one. I'm curious of the build quality.
Hi Jesse! You might like them as some great tele lenses. Build is as good as M If they are Leica made ones, some are Minolta collaboration lenses. I would say as good or close. Most of mine are 6 blade design.
Another excellent video. Q: What adapter do you use to mount R-lenses on the L-mount S5? I use an SL in addition to my M cameras. I have two third party lens adapters (Fotasy L-R and HaoPe L-R) that "over focus" infinity. Depending on lens (I have 4). If I set distance to infinity, the images are blurry with all as they're OUT of focus. It is only when I set the distance to between 3-8 meters (depending on lens) that I have infinity IN focus. I am contemplating the expensive Leica branded adapter, but am not convinced it won't have the same problem. I have found that I don't have the same problem when I stack my Leica branded L-M together with K&F M-R as it focuses correctly at infinity.
Novoflex have the best adapters. www.novoflex.de/en/products-637/lens-adapters/adapterfinder.html
Hi! I stack R-M on L-M. I notice too the 7Artisan L-M means I can’t hit Infineon wider lenses. Longer lenses seem ok. I use Leica branded L-M for more solid bass to mount R-M shown and that gives exif
@@cameraprepper7938 Thanks! I think they offer good middle ground between Leica and cheap
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Novoflex are as good as or better than most brands, even Leica.
@@cameraprepper7938 thanks! I’ve been really happy with mine so far.
That’s a jazzy watch.
Haha thanks, i'm not cool I use it for triathon training. I bought when I did my first Ironman event a few years ago (swim bike run watch)
Great! Now you only have to buy the R 80mm 1,4 and test it for me.. :)
Haha I’ll just Rob a b$nk and I’ll be back :)
hi! this adapter works on the leica m film cameras?
Yes but only use it with perhaps 28mm and wider and zone focus (you can't see to focus with viewfinder)
Have you tried the R lenses on the Leica CL?
Hi, yes but not to a huge amount so far. R lenses balance better on the SL so I have used that setup almost non-stop. R lenses give excellent value but they are larger. You might prefer to use the smallest LTM and M lenses on the CL. (See my various lens videos to see the small ones).
Have you tried the R lenses on your CL?
Hi Allan, yes but not enough to draw conclusions yet. Give me a few weeks and I’ll try to put a video together with samples.
Hi matt,
How would the R lenes be on leica T.
Hi John, they will work the same on the T as with my CL - a bit oversized but they work fine with the M-L adapter
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ok 👍
Maybe I missed it, but would this work for M film camera (I have a M5)?
I mentioned it briefly - yes BUT only for zone focusing so only really useful for wide lenses.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks, mate.
Hey Matt
Have you picked up a R series camera yet?
Hi Ronald! Yes..I shared a teaser photo in the YT video I posted on Thursday eve :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yes I noticed that photo but was unsure if it was your own camera 👍👌
@@ronaldsand3000 yes! 2x R4S purchases fell through so decided to pay more and get a good one (couldn’t get 6.2)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hey Matt
looks like a real nice R6!
Hope you enjoy using it
They are very small and light not much different in dimensions to the M series and use relatively cheaper Leica lenses
Good luck with it!!!
how is the leica r lens on a leica m8 or m9? workable or?
Not very practical. You can zone focus only so suits wide lenses.
Hello... I have a leica m6... and I adapted an R mount lens to it... but I can't get the focus. It is normal? there's a solution?
Hi Walter, if you see this video or the detailed written blog post I did on MrLeica.com - yes you can attach R glass, no the RF patch won’t work. Only suitable for wider R lenses, 21mm, 24mm etc and then scale focus using distance on the lens. 50mm+ R lens on M6 is not suitable.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you very much for your reply
@@mrcondorazo no problem 👍🏻
dude 24mm elmarit f2.8 is almost the size of that R 24, minus the adapter of course I also have that 28 elmarit very little just so u kno these aren't truly compared
Thanks! Good to know the M 24mm is just as big. I love small so the 28mm M works great for me BUT I love the look of the 24mm hood!
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here is a rev. I made, if you fancy!
yeah I love the hood too but it seems a bit bizzare on the M bodies :D cheers man
I appreciate Matt Osborne's Leica talks. But although English is my mother tongue I find it difficult to understand what he is saying. A speech therapist could help here in one session. Outside of that, thumbs up all the way.
Hi Alexander, thanks for the feedback, noted, thanks.
Sure wish the Leica R mount adapter wasn’t so expensive.
There are a few relatively inexpensive passive adapters for the R mount.
Thanks William. You can get a cheap one but I’d read a bad review so paid extra. They’ll hold their value so can sell worst case.
@@raksh9 thanks yes agreed, I paid extra to be safe.
Some say R lenses are no match to M lenses, true or not?
I’d say yes true in terms of sharpness (and size) ..but I enjoy the R glass for a more cinematic look + closer focus.
Wide open* I’m sure stopped down enjoy they will be similar in many cases. Both series have their gem lenses.
Speaking of Leica/Leitz lenses and comparing them in general is virtually impossible. And a comparison between R- and M-lenses is equally problmatic. Summicrons, whether for R or M are not Elmarits, and not Elmars either. And even among the various Elmarits f.i. there is a huge diffference. The newer "models" of the Elmarit R 2,8/25mm are far, far superior to the older ones (and I've got two models, though not the one with the collapsible sunshade. Leica-specialst Thorsten von Overgaard says that R-lenses might even be better than those of the Mś because of their size, which coincides with my own experience with Leitz/Leica (plus 50 years). The late Erwin Puts wrote endlessly about all the characteristics of Leitz/Leica lenses. The sure thing using those lenses is, that one has some very high quality stuff in hands, and making a decent picture, that really stands out, wont't be a problem at all.
@@leslumieres1237 thank you Les, great information and wise words. I did think Ms were not as good actually but I like them for their character. That said I’m never disappointed and for sure they make nice photos. I shot 4 rolls of film with them today so can’t wait to check! (I’m actually using 2 more lenses but I’ve not shared those yet!) I might do those as a different video :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hi Matt, yeah, Leicas are special, that's for sure. Last Thursday I participated in a photowalk, initiated by Thorsten von Overgaard in Amsterdam I took my R4 and R6 and the Elmarit-R 28-70, loaded with Agfapan 400, developed in my good old soup, Rodinal, scanned them on an Epson, and enjoyed (at least some) of the results. Of the 22 participants, I was the only one using Leicaflexes, some people didn't even know that one could still buy film!! I look forward to the results of the participants sporting all kinds of digital Leicas.
Traduction en Français svp tank you
Hi, Subtitles might work.. but usually not accurate with technical videos, sorry
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interesting that you stuck with the M240 for so long. I'd think that the M10 would have seduced you by now
Ha yes. The CL saved me and bought me 3 years! I think that because film is my main interest I get less GAS for digital.
What is that tank on your wrist Matt ?? Lol
Haha I’ve started to get a few comments about my watch lol. I use it for Ironman / triathlon events & training (swim bike run) (it unclips and onto the bike when needed)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ahhhh. It’s some watch. Makes sense. I don’t like your videos anymore, 😝I just want a Leica camera 🙈🙈.
I’m going buy the new Nikon Z fc. it comes close to the old Nikons you talk about and the retro feel off them.
@@andrewhoulihan7940 haha.. yes I saw the new Nikon! ..or just but a £100 proper Nikon film camera! 😜😊
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I’ve had a good think about first coming across your videos and retro cameras. If i buy a Nikon for €100, each time i want get a roll developed. Ill have but the roll for €10 and sent if off to be developed for €10. So every time its €20. I don’t think ill get my return of investment. I want one for everyday use for the kids around the house and days out. Unless you have another idea ? 🙈 I’d love noting more and a retro camera.
You need a bigger watch
Haha, sorry it's functional! I use it for Ironman/ triathlon training/ events
Uses small lightweight cameras - yet bulks up the arms with a 12lb watch :)
Haha it’s lighter than it looks, use it for Ironman triathlons / training
I know that your voice is not optional for you but as a hearing impaired person, your voice is unintelligible. Maybe you could use a different audio setup or text to speech. I am very interested in the topic but cannot decipher your audio.
Hello Ivan, thanks for writing. I also have the MrLeica.com blog so you can enjoy many of the same topics in written form and with high res images.
Cannot understand a single word - awful diction!
Thanks Paul, others must be seeing it differently as no one mentioned it so far until now.
As an Australian I have absolutely no issue with voice or accent
@@jonarthur6839 G’day mate! :) ..thank you Jon! I appreciate the feedback.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom You're welcome Matt, you are my go to man when I want an objective opinion on anything Leica:) Always helpful and interesting, ended up on this one as I am looking at an R 80mm 1.4 in an auction tomorrow to try on an MP240.
@@jonarthur6839 thanks Jon, nice! I hope you won it! I just got the affordable 90mm f2.8