The problem with all these tests is the cost. Most people don’t have a credit card to pay, and vets (at least in my area) don’t do payment plans. I had an old farm vet that literally would charge just for supplies, cost of medicines, no overhead. He passed away, and now there is not a single vet in my area like him. Care credit and other “help” do not provide enough money to cover costs. Not to mention they can just say the day of procedure, oh sorry you are not covered now. There needs to be payment plans, our Drs provide that, why not vets????
We get it. High quality care (boarded specialists, MRI machines, 24 hour care by skilled nurses) is expensive. We also get that most people aren’t expecting an emergency or have unlimited funds. As you said, there are payment plan options through Care Credit, Wells Fargo, Scratch Pay and others. I’ve never heard of one of these denying payments if you’ve already been approved. There is also pet insurance through great companies like Trupanion that help you be prepared for emergencies when they’re least expected. We have a charitable fund through the VetCare Foundation to help families in need. There are some requirements that we have so that the fund can continue. veterinarycarefoundation.org/donate-today/veterinary-practice/?state=FL&member=FL00807 There isn’t a perfect solution and it’s one of the biggest challenges in veterinary medicine. Not that you were suggesting it, but vets can’t provide free services to everyone who needs it. Not that you’re suggesting it, but pet ownership shouldn’t be only for the fortunate or affluent. Every situation is different but it certainly isn’t an easy solution. These are the sorts of conversations that need to happen to make it better for all pets and families.
Which country are you referring to, please? My 11 year GR just had a stroke and all of us were at home luckily and we took him to the Vet Hospital and we told the symptoms, the main one was nystagmus- which is a involuntary sideways movement of the eyes. That symptom was enough for them to diagnose the stroke and treat him immediately. In Sri Lanka we don't have CT or MRI for animals buy our VETS do a Sterling job with minimal resources. He was given a LASIX IV for 3 days to reduce the pressure in cranial sector and oral diuretic and spironolactone. He came put of the symptoms pretty fast. Nystagmus stopped within 24 hours, buy within 3 hours of the episode he was able to walk. Thank God for the good doctors.
My wife and i are hysterical and dont know what to do! Our 9 year old Chihuahua has had 3 seizures in the last 2 weeks, and tonight she had a stroke right before walking down the stone steps out front which sent her tumblimg down all 9 steps. She was completely limp, with no pulse. Then out of nowhere, she gasped for air and her heart started beating again! She is such a fighter, and she absolutely does not want to leave us yet. She is the nicest, SWEETEST, loving dog we've ever known... We rescued her about a year ago from a hotel that we work at in a bad area. A homless man stayed the night there, i met and spoke with him that night. And he told me about how the woman who owned our sweet Carla before him would sbuse her and punish her by throwing her in a dumpster and closing the lid for HOURS at a time! He also had her and a younger Chihuahua with him (who he clearly favorited), well once he was told he couldnt stay any longer because he destroyed his room, he decided to leave this sweet little angel behind in the room and took his other younger dog with him to live on the streets. We found her scared, staring out the window searching for the man, cowering in her own urine. Heartbroken that she was just left behind like that. So we decided to take her home and spoil beyond belief, and have given her the best life she could ask for (like she deserves) and shes living like the little princess she is. The genuine grateful attitude she keeps is so evident in her every move. I only wish we could have saved her sooner and spent more time with her, because having her love in our home has made us better people...... But shes in pretty bad shape right now, trying so hard not to show the true pain shes in. We were told she has a heart murmur, and now with her current condition we dont have the money to get her the help she desperately needs and deserves. The reality of this kills me a little more with every second that passes.... If anyone has any thoughts, any prayers, any advice or resources that we can contact, ANYTHING..... PLEASE HELP US SAVE OUR LITTLE BABY CARLA GIRL! 😢 (We live in Mesa, Arizona)
Seems the comment section here is pretty inactive. I'm so sorry this is happening, and you've done so well by taking her in and spoiling her. It's amazing that she finally got a loving home, and heartbreaking that her health is giving out now. I hope you were able to bring her to a vet and get some help. While you explained some things in your comment, when it comes to seizures there is no way to diagnose/plan a treatment for a dog without being able to see them in real life and preferably do some tests. Best of luck to you lot
My 8 year old German Shepherd just had a stroke and seizures 2 days ago. Almost 8 years from the day my wife had a stroke… I’m hoping given time her balance improves. It cost $1800 to spend the night with medical treatment at the ER Vet in our area.
I’m going through this right now with an 11 yr old rescue I’ve had for 1 year. Just had a senior blood panel which wiped out my savings so an MRI is out of my range. I am a senior myself on low, fixed income.
the vet charged 1.2k too also for them just to say we cant do anything so what i did was i threw a huge rock at one of there windows the following night and im planning to do it again.
1200 for a kidney test? By the gods that is a lot. I'm guessing US? Where I live a "test all organs that most often have issues, including kidneys" blood test was €100, and that already made us sad. Sad about our budgetting, no doubt in our minds of course- that test was getting done (and came back good!)
PAWSitive Reaction Animal Rescue of southern Colorado thanks you abundantly, for your conciseness and excellent visuals. We are seeing more strokes and seizures every year. It's so hard to help these little guys, they TELL us what's wrong, but we, people, don't hear. Thanks for your wonderful presentations. WOOF!!💖
Our dog had what they believe was a spinal stroke several years ago. She was fine one minute the next she could not stand and didn't look "there" They said we could do an MRI however it was not going to change her recover or treatment so we opted not to spend the $2,000 for it. She does get a bit off balance still a bit and her vocals were still a bit different than pre-stroke.
I'm so sick of the way you guys say that you are here for the animals and you love your patients. I'll tell you what happened to me. My dog 🐶 is 10 years old. My dog had a seizure and we had to rush her to a hospital that was open over the weekend and this cost me 700.00 and I was told to follow up with=a animal hospital that I usually don't go to. Even tho I live next to a animal hospital. So I was asked if I got this insurance for my dog then I'd only pay 72 a month. Ok, thanks it will help my dog? Nope, the medicine is not covered, the blood work just 1 time. I'm on disability and so is my husband. Our dog is a family member to us. Now , mind you, I needed a refill for the seizure meds and I called the vet. I need to pay the 65.00 office visit and then 200.00 for blood work and then I can get the refill. I tried to make them understand that I receive 792.00 a month, my husband gets 408.00 a month. My RENT is 881.00after rent come insurance, phone... These people don't want to help you out with a payment plan or anything else. I was in tears and the pharmacy lady said she could refill the medicine July 5th. I'm so sorry but no one can afford to live let alone get help with their pets. You all charge way too much. I don't even know why she's having seizures, only giving her medicine to stop them. No one cares about anyone anymore. In 1 monthly rent is going up to 1125.00a month. I'm going to be homeless and living in my car. I tried calling for help, I'm on the top of the list, but still no help. I don't have any money or any rich friends.
I feel for you. Yes these people who we think care about our animals all they really think about is how Rich they will be. Because they want to be the richest person in the Cemetery once they’re dead. Go figure their brains out. Please look up Vetanary secret on Y tube (not sure if l spelt it right ) He is awesome. Good luck Hun. I have a dog right now not doing to well. But l haven’t the heart to put her down l love her to much. :(
I mean it's not free for them, you have cost of equipment, medications, staff, building, paychecks, etc. Vets go to school just as long as doctors and get paid significantly less. If they treated pets for free they would not stay open....
It breaks my heart to read about your experience. I too have lost all respect for this profession. They're in it only for the money and they're nothing more than Pharma salesmen. After losing a healthy 7-mo old puppy to a 7-in-1 vax, I stopped taking my other pets to vets. My 9 yr old Shih Tzu is totally unvaccinated and she has never seen a vet in her life. I take care in feeding her healthy real food (nothing that comes in a fancy package... no kibble... no processed chemicalized doggie treats). To be honest, all illnesses start with vaxxes. You cannot inject good health. Let me repeat that: You cannot inject good health. Good nature-made foods are the only way we can ensure healthy lives for ourselves and also for our pets.
But there is no treatment unless there is an underlying problem which caused the stroke. Which in 50% of dogs there is no cause. Most people can not afford that many tests just to find out there is no treatment.
My dog is old and I know these tests will at least let me know what is wrong but I can’t afford them. If these symptoms were happening to my five year old, I would possibly consider it.
I'm wondering if our 10 year old female Boxer actually had a stroke. We initially thought it was a stroke but then the Vet diagnosed it as Old Dog Vestibular Syndrome. She has the head tilt and was very unbalanced at first and nauseous the first day. So the Vet gave her anti-nausea medication and she started eating again. At first the Vet said she might get better in 3 or 4 days. But then changed it to 1 to 2 weeks. By the end of week 2 her balance had greatly improved. But she continues to have the droopy face on one side and within the past couple days few days it's as if she's lost the sight in her left eye. The Vet saw her again last week and put her on antibiotics and Gabapentin for pain and also eye moisturizer and a topical med for bacteria and yeast in her ears. So now she's treating it as if it's Peripheral Vestibular disease but she did notice the face drooping at that 2nd visit. She did the eye test and at first she thought her left eye didn't blink but then it did. But I've been doing the same thing the past couple days and her eye isn't blinking. The Vet also reminded me that this could be the more serious Centralized Vestibular Syndrome where there's a tumor in her brain or on the brain stem. I sincerely hope it isn't that. We can't afford an MRI so all we can do is wait and see. But the loss of sight in her left eye really has us concerned. She's due for another Vet check on October 20th, 2022 (2 weeks from her last visit). But I may e-mail the Vet with an update. This is so stressful because at first it seemed like forever for her to get her balance back. Then she was greatly improving. Now this continued face drooping on the left side and loss of sight in the left eye. She's the best dog ever and I hope this is something she'll recover from.
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like your vet is doing a great job. Stroke can cause balance problems but usually doesn’t develop new signs later. Stroke usually happens suddenly and does not progress. The development of the facial droop sounds like a new sign (symptom). Idiopathic (old dog vestibular) can develop facial droop (called facial nerve paralysis or facial nerve paresis). So can ear infections. So can brain tumors. So can meningitis/encephalitis. This is the reason your vet recommended an MRI - each of these can look similar. Some are very benign. Some are treatable. Others are more serious. Best wishes for you and your family. Sounds like you’ve got a great vet who is making good recommendations.
Could be distibular disease , inner ear issue. that looks like a stroke...they also turn in circles..they have to get through it. And can happen more then once.. Our dog had it. Almost like being really sea sick..motion sickness. Out vet gave anti nausea to help her through..so dont put your dog down..because it looks like a stroke.. could last weeks
My 12 year old wolf hound cross German shepherd had a stroke pass month, no idea when but he having trouble walking, head tilted and we sure he has had bad eye sight for a few months We don’t have the money to spend for all the tests to find out or treatment, so when he becomes severe it he time for him to go his see his family in doggie heaven
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Hello. Thanks for your comment. Stroke treatment in dogs involves treating any underlying metabolic disease and supportive care. We always recommend consulting a Vet Neurologist if any neurological condition is suspected. Learn more on our website - sevneurology.com/blog/dog-stroke-symptoms/
Took my dog to the vet monday and they wanted to do xrays. The vet asked if she could do a light sedation on him. She said he'd be able to walk to the car just fine. When it was done they basically had to drag him into the room. He's 150lb dog. He was out cold. The nurse told me they only gave him a half dose. We basically carried him to the car, and he was completely knocked out for 5 hours at home. He came to a little bit before bedtime, then slept all night. He gets up and walks around and he's limping bad on his back leg. I'm not happy. Is it possible they gave him to much and he had a stroke, or they dropped him off the table back there and he hit his head and leg and messed him up? I don't know what to do.
My medium(-more towards the bigger side, but not quite as big as a large dog so smaller than a lab) sized 9 yr old female mutt had a stroke for the first time this month and had another one! What should we do? She’s perfect fine when she’s not having a stroke she’s actually great still has energy and eats alottt and runs and plays outside n with my other dog. Also she has a small bump which we think is a tumor on her side by rib cage
Does my dog have a stroke? We adopted him in 2016 (7 years ago), i'm not sure how old was he at 2016 but he was VERY young, this year he is acting really weird, he is a pekingese and he moves in a struggling way, and can barely even pick up food from the ground, i really feel bad for him.
Hey my 9 year old boxer just earlier just collapsed out in the yard. At the time he wasn't responding to any of the other dogs and my grandpa came to get me. But when I went over there with my cousin he was reacting to me breathing and his tail was wagging then the female collie came outside and he jumped up like nothing that had happened we don't know if it was a seizure or stroke can anyone with more knowledge on this inform me
Hi Daemian. Oftentimes, advanced testing is needed in the diagnosis of a neurological condition. We always recommend consulting a Vet Neurologist if any neurological or spine condition is suspected. If you are in need of a consultation, please visit us online to find a location near you at sevneurology.com.
Sounds like my dog who had a paralyzed vocal chord. She would just suddenly keel over because her oxygen was cut off. She was first misdiagnosed as having a a syncope
So sad to see this. I hate it when it happens to any dog or cat. It just pains me. I have a Little chihuahua that we rescued about 4 years ago. the Doctor thought that ( Chico ) was probably around 8 to 10 years old which today he would probably be between 12 and 15 years old. We have him in a large cage where he can walk around. The reason we have him in there is because he urinates everywhere at any moment. So, we can't afford to go through 2 rolls of paper towels everyday. He does go in circles in there but when he is outside the cage, He never does that. he acts totally normal. But we have noticed that he tends to do a mixture of crying and howling at the same time mostly in the evening. We do give him lots o' love and pet him frequently. So, we don't believe that it would be worth it to do such a costly workup just to see if he had or is having a stroke. I cannot bring myself to put him down. It's way, way, to painful for me to do that. I just ask the Lord to either heal him or let him pass quietly in his sleep. I had to put one of our cat's down because of a brain tumor that she had. Her name was CiCi and she was 15 years old. Just to show you how much it affects me, I am crying while I write this and it's been about a year and a half. 😭 We also had to put down a 14 year old blue nose pit bull because she also had a stomach tumor. 😭 It is so painful to see our "Kids" go through such diseases. God bless you all who have or are dealing with situations involving disastrous diseases.
Wow..all the symptoms of stroke in every article i have read are CLOSELY related to Vestibular disease yet this video shows completely different symptoms. hhmmmm confused....
I’m reading this because my little dog has just had one and l can’t afford to take her to the vet, that breaks my heart as much as watching her lying here. I don’t think she is in pain as she won’t let me touch her but her head is on an angle. I will wait and see what morning brings.
I'm wondering if your little dog has recovered from the stroke. My pug dog just had one. He has lost his balance, can barely stand up at all, dizzy and disoriented, and cannot handle any excitement or sudden movements
@@christopherbond5127 how do you know its a stroke? Did you take them into the vet to be diagnosed? it may not be a stroke. It could be vestibular disease. how's the eyes doing?
@@crazydoglady5 my dog did recover! Not exactly sure what he had. Whenever he would try to get up to stand his head would go back and his eyes would look up, roll back. He would flop over if we tried to stand him up. 5 days getting gradually worse, then 5 days getting gradually better.
@@christopherbond5127 Its much easier to treat when you know what you are dealing with. Even without expensive tests, they can guess at it..giving you a chance to try to help your dog. NEVER let your dog just suffer not knowing what is going on. thats terrible.
Hi Sharon. It is common for dogs to urinate or defecate during a seizure episode. For more information about seizures in dogs, please refer to this article - sevneurology.com/blog/dog-epilepsy-treatment/
This guy is extremely annoying. He's reading the entire thing, and he looks like he's smiling. Between that and his monotonous voice, I can barely stand to watch this, but I will to learn what I need to learn.
Glad you learned something. Yeah, we don’t really hire our neurologists and neurosurgeons based on how great they are on camera and tend to focus on things like skill, compassion, drive, excellence, treating your pet like they’re our own and being there when you need us.
So literally there is nothing that can realistically be done and it goes away with time - so why spend $5,000+ on “ treatment”/MRI and diagnosis. What a scam.
Great question (minus the scam comment 🙂), and a very common thought process by pet parents. Most people also have the questions: 1.Why is my pet doing this (e.g. why did this happen)? 2. Will my dog die? 3. What's the chance of him getting better? 4. What's the chance of this coming back/happening again? The purpose of testing is a couple things. 1. Confirm that it's a stroke. Other conditions such as brain tumors, encephalitis, brain infections, toxicities and others may cause similar signs. Each of these conditions is treated differently and each has a different likelihood of getting better. Knowing what the cause of the symptoms is allows us treat it specifically and aggressively. Sometimes the treatment is surgery, sometimes it's medicine, and sometimes it's just supportive care while the pet gets better (in the case of a stroke). 2. If a stroke is confirmed via MRI, we then go looking for the underlying cause of the stroke. About half the time we find an underlying reason, such as high blood pressure, heart disease, kidney disease, endocrine disease (Cushing's, hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism are examples), cancer elsewhere in the body and others. IF we find a stroke and IF we find an underlying cause, we can minimize the chance of it happening again to your pet by treating that underlying cause. I usually make a couple other points to pet parents when these questions come up: 1. If we had a magic crystal ball that told us the future and we KNEW your pet had a stroke and that it was going to get better with time and never happen again, we wouldn't recommend an MRI. We'd save you the money and be happy your pet got better. 2. Currently the closest thing to a 'crystal ball' is an MRI - it's the best way for us to know what the cause is, what the likelihood of getting better is and what the likelihood of recurrence is. 3. Our reputation of doing our best, making the right recommendation, and treating your pet as if it were our own means so much more than your money. Sure, money is needed in order to run a hospital, so we can't do everything for free. But the short term gain of "scamming" someone out of money only to lose our reputation isn't worth it. 4. If you, I, or our human family member started walking around in circles, slurring speech, not using half of the body, (or any other signs of a stroke), would we go to an ER, see a neurologist and get an MRI, etc. We wouldn't say "nah, I'm good, let's see if it gets better". Most pet parents feel it shouldn't be different for their four-legged family members. What symptoms is your dog showing? (and I hope he or she is getting better).
The idea is that if you can get your dog seen quickly after the stroke has occurred they might be able to administer an antithrombolytic, which can potentially decrease the damage caused by the stroke. Other than that they're pretty much fucked. Rehab could certainly help.
Depends on the age of dog. MRI will confirm the diagnosis. Which may led to the correct meds been given. Such as blood thinners etc. I decided not to give my dog the MRI due to his age 13 and he is a large breed so that's very old. I know in humans that are old most hospitals can only do so much so used that way fo thinking ( limited meds, supportive care, limited surgery due to age of person). It was a hard decsion but for me I thought the risks of GA, MRI stress, the benefits versus cons etc and maybe being somewhere foreign for him would be more stressful then being at home with us. In hindsight I made the right choice for our scenario but it was the hardest few months. I did take weeks off and months of supportive 24/7 care. Including changing parts of the house to make it easier (carpet on wood floors, secondary water bowl) planning care with husband so we're on the same page. We taught him to walk again. Used a pair of strong but soft leggings as a sling under his belly to help him walk when he needed to go bathroom and just be calm around him if he fell also made sure it was safe to fall and of he going to then just supported him so it was no injury. We identified the dangers of your prpoerty and his movements to prevent injury. He had his first stroke 25th April. Recovered in May end/ June. Had another stroke last night 26th August. We're supporting him now.a I don't regret my decision. He recovered well thought it was emotionally and physically draining and we did get June, July and most of August where he was normal. Please pray for us that he recovers quickly or if it is his time he goes peacefully in his sleep and doesn't suffer. I love him with all my heart.
The problem with all these tests is the cost. Most people don’t have a credit card to pay, and vets (at least in my area) don’t do payment plans. I had an old farm vet that literally would charge just for supplies, cost of medicines, no overhead. He passed away, and now there is not a single vet in my area like him. Care credit and other “help” do not provide enough money to cover costs. Not to mention they can just say the day of procedure, oh sorry you are not covered now. There needs to be payment plans, our Drs provide that, why not vets????
We get it. High quality care (boarded specialists, MRI machines, 24 hour care by skilled nurses) is expensive.
We also get that most people aren’t expecting an emergency or have unlimited funds.
As you said, there are payment plan options through Care Credit, Wells Fargo, Scratch Pay and others. I’ve never heard of one of these denying payments if you’ve already been approved.
There is also pet insurance through great companies like Trupanion that help you be prepared for emergencies when they’re least expected.
We have a charitable fund through the VetCare Foundation to help families in need. There are some requirements that we have so that the fund can continue. veterinarycarefoundation.org/donate-today/veterinary-practice/?state=FL&member=FL00807
There isn’t a perfect solution and it’s one of the biggest challenges in veterinary medicine. Not that you were suggesting it, but vets can’t provide free services to everyone who needs it. Not that you’re suggesting it, but pet ownership shouldn’t be only for the fortunate or affluent.
Every situation is different but it certainly isn’t an easy solution. These are the sorts of conversations that need to happen to make it better for all pets and families.
EXACTLY
Which country are you referring to, please? My 11 year GR just had a stroke and all of us were at home luckily and we took him to the Vet Hospital and we told the symptoms, the main one was nystagmus- which is a involuntary sideways movement of the eyes. That symptom was enough for them to diagnose the stroke and treat him immediately. In Sri Lanka we don't have CT or MRI for animals buy our VETS do a Sterling job with minimal resources. He was given a LASIX IV for 3 days to reduce the pressure in cranial sector and oral diuretic and spironolactone. He came put of the symptoms pretty fast. Nystagmus stopped within 24 hours, buy within 3 hours of the episode he was able to walk. Thank God for the good doctors.
My wife and i are hysterical and dont know what to do! Our 9 year old Chihuahua has had 3 seizures in the last 2 weeks, and tonight she had a stroke right before walking down the stone steps out front which sent her tumblimg down all 9 steps. She was completely limp, with no pulse. Then out of nowhere, she gasped for air and her heart started beating again! She is such a fighter, and she absolutely does not want to leave us yet. She is the nicest, SWEETEST, loving dog we've ever known... We rescued her about a year ago from a hotel that we work at in a bad area. A homless man stayed the night there, i met and spoke with him that night. And he told me about how the woman who owned our sweet Carla before him would sbuse her and punish her by throwing her in a dumpster and closing the lid for HOURS at a time! He also had her and a younger Chihuahua with him (who he clearly favorited), well once he was told he couldnt stay any longer because he destroyed his room, he decided to leave this sweet little angel behind in the room and took his other younger dog with him to live on the streets. We found her scared, staring out the window searching for the man, cowering in her own urine. Heartbroken that she was just left behind like that. So we decided to take her home and spoil beyond belief, and have given her the best life she could ask for (like she deserves) and shes living like the little princess she is. The genuine grateful attitude she keeps is so evident in her every move. I only wish we could have saved her sooner and spent more time with her, because having her love in our home has made us better people......
But shes in pretty bad shape right now, trying so hard not to show the true pain shes in. We were told she has a heart murmur, and now with her current condition we dont have the money to get her the help she desperately needs and deserves. The reality of this kills me a little more with every second that passes....
If anyone has any thoughts, any prayers, any advice or resources that we can contact, ANYTHING.....
PLEASE HELP US SAVE OUR LITTLE BABY CARLA GIRL!
😢
(We live in Mesa, Arizona)
Seems the comment section here is pretty inactive. I'm so sorry this is happening, and you've done so well by taking her in and spoiling her. It's amazing that she finally got a loving home, and heartbreaking that her health is giving out now.
I hope you were able to bring her to a vet and get some help. While you explained some things in your comment, when it comes to seizures there is no way to diagnose/plan a treatment for a dog without being able to see them in real life and preferably do some tests. Best of luck to you lot
Man, ur dog resisted?
My 8 year old German Shepherd just had a stroke and seizures 2 days ago. Almost 8 years from the day my wife had a stroke… I’m hoping given time her balance improves. It cost $1800 to spend the night with medical treatment at the ER Vet in our area.
I’m going through this right now with an 11 yr old rescue I’ve had for 1 year. Just had a senior blood panel which wiped out my savings so an MRI is out of my range. I am a senior myself on low, fixed income.
What was the outcome of your pet?
I can't even imagine how much all these tests cost. My friend paid 1200 dollars for her cat's kidneys to be tested.
I'm sorry your friend got fleeced.
the vet charged 1.2k too also for them just to say we cant do anything so what i did was i threw a huge rock at one of there windows the following night and im planning to do it again.
1200 for a kidney test? By the gods that is a lot. I'm guessing US? Where I live a "test all organs that most often have issues, including kidneys" blood test was €100, and that already made us sad.
Sad about our budgetting, no doubt in our minds of course- that test was getting done (and came back good!)
PAWSitive Reaction Animal Rescue of southern Colorado thanks you abundantly, for your conciseness and excellent visuals. We are seeing more strokes and seizures every year. It's so hard to help these little guys, they TELL us what's wrong, but we, people, don't hear. Thanks for your wonderful presentations. WOOF!!💖
Our dog had what they believe was a spinal stroke several years ago. She was fine one minute the next she could not stand and didn't look "there" They said we could do an MRI however it was not going to change her recover or treatment so we opted not to spend the $2,000 for it. She does get a bit off balance still a bit and her vocals were still a bit different than pre-stroke.
I'm so sick of the way you guys say that you are here for the animals and you love your patients. I'll tell you what happened to me. My dog 🐶 is 10 years old. My dog had a seizure and we had to rush her to a hospital that was open over the weekend and this cost me 700.00 and I was told to follow up with=a animal hospital that I usually don't go to. Even tho I live next to a animal hospital. So I was asked if I got this insurance for my dog then I'd only pay 72 a month. Ok, thanks it will help my dog? Nope, the medicine is not covered, the blood work just 1 time. I'm on disability and so is my husband. Our dog is a family member to us. Now , mind you, I needed a refill for the seizure meds and I called the vet. I need to pay the 65.00 office visit and then 200.00 for blood work and then I can get the refill. I tried to make them understand that I receive 792.00 a month, my husband gets 408.00 a month. My RENT is 881.00after rent come insurance, phone... These people don't want to help you out with a payment plan or anything else. I was in tears and the pharmacy lady said she could refill the medicine July 5th. I'm so sorry but no one can afford to live let alone get help with their pets. You all charge way too much. I don't even know why she's having seizures, only giving her medicine to stop them. No one cares about anyone anymore. In 1 monthly rent is going up to 1125.00a month. I'm going to be homeless and living in my car. I tried calling for help, I'm on the top of the list, but still no help. I don't have any money or any rich friends.
I feel for you. Yes these people who we think care about our animals all they really think about is how Rich they will be. Because they want to be the richest person in the Cemetery once they’re dead. Go figure their brains out.
Please look up Vetanary secret on Y tube (not sure if l spelt it right )
He is awesome. Good luck Hun. I have a dog right now not doing to well. But l haven’t the heart to put her down l love her to much. :(
Yes going to the vet is for the rich now!
I mean it's not free for them, you have cost of equipment, medications, staff, building, paychecks, etc. Vets go to school just as long as doctors and get paid significantly less. If they treated pets for free they would not stay open....
@@poopooleakeiki No BUT they CAN offer alternative treatments...I have watched many of their videos and every single one is pushing MRI.
It breaks my heart to read about your experience. I too have lost all respect for this profession. They're in it only for the money and they're nothing more than Pharma salesmen. After losing a healthy 7-mo old puppy to a 7-in-1 vax, I stopped taking my other pets to vets. My 9 yr old Shih Tzu is totally unvaccinated and she has never seen a vet in her life. I take care in feeding her healthy real food (nothing that comes in a fancy package... no kibble... no processed chemicalized doggie treats). To be honest, all illnesses start with vaxxes. You cannot inject good health. Let me repeat that: You cannot inject good health. Good nature-made foods are the only way we can ensure healthy lives for ourselves and also for our pets.
But there is no treatment unless there is an underlying problem which caused the stroke. Which in 50% of dogs there is no cause. Most people can not afford that many tests just to find out there is no treatment.
My dog is old and I know these tests will at least let me know what is wrong but I can’t afford them. If these symptoms were happening to my five year old, I would possibly consider it.
I'm wondering if our 10 year old female Boxer actually had a stroke. We initially thought it was a stroke but then the Vet diagnosed it as Old Dog Vestibular Syndrome. She has the head tilt and was very unbalanced at first and nauseous the first day. So the Vet gave her anti-nausea medication and she started eating again. At first the Vet said she might get better in 3 or 4 days. But then changed it to 1 to 2 weeks. By the end of week 2 her balance had greatly improved. But she continues to have the droopy face on one side and within the past couple days few days it's as if she's lost the sight in her left eye. The Vet saw her again last week and put her on antibiotics and Gabapentin for pain and also eye moisturizer and a topical med for bacteria and yeast in her ears. So now she's treating it as if it's Peripheral Vestibular disease but she did notice the face drooping at that 2nd visit. She did the eye test and at first she thought her left eye didn't blink but then it did. But I've been doing the same thing the past couple days and her eye isn't blinking. The Vet also reminded me that this could be the more serious Centralized Vestibular Syndrome where there's a tumor in her brain or on the brain stem. I sincerely hope it isn't that. We can't afford an MRI so all we can do is wait and see. But the loss of sight in her left eye really has us concerned. She's due for another Vet check on October 20th, 2022 (2 weeks from her last visit). But I may e-mail the Vet with an update. This is so stressful because at first it seemed like forever for her to get her balance back. Then she was greatly improving. Now this continued face drooping on the left side and loss of sight in the left eye. She's the best dog ever and I hope this is something she'll recover from.
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like your vet is doing a great job. Stroke can cause balance problems but usually doesn’t develop new signs later. Stroke usually happens suddenly and does not progress. The development of the facial droop sounds like a new sign (symptom).
Idiopathic (old dog vestibular) can develop facial droop (called facial nerve paralysis or facial nerve paresis). So can ear infections. So can brain tumors. So can meningitis/encephalitis.
This is the reason your vet recommended an MRI - each of these can look similar. Some are very benign. Some are treatable. Others are more serious.
Best wishes for you and your family. Sounds like you’ve got a great vet who is making good recommendations.
Could Lyme disease be causing a stroke/epilepsy?
Could be distibular disease , inner ear issue. that looks like a stroke...they also turn in circles..they have to get through it. And can happen more then once.. Our dog had it. Almost like being really sea sick..motion sickness. Out vet gave anti nausea to help her through..so dont put your dog down..because it looks like a stroke.. could last weeks
Even for 14 year old dog ? Doctor said he had stroke and lost his nerves
So many people are obviously clueless about vet med!
My 12 year old wolf hound cross German shepherd had a stroke pass month, no idea when but he having trouble walking, head tilted and we sure he has had bad eye sight for a few months
We don’t have the money to spend for all the tests to find out or treatment, so when he becomes severe it he time for him to go his see his family in doggie heaven
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What medicine to use for this condition in dogs
Hello. Thanks for your comment. Stroke treatment in dogs involves treating any underlying metabolic disease and supportive care. We always recommend consulting a Vet Neurologist if any neurological condition is suspected. Learn more on our website - sevneurology.com/blog/dog-stroke-symptoms/
Took my dog to the vet monday and they wanted to do xrays. The vet asked if she could do a light sedation on him. She said he'd be able to walk to the car just fine. When it was done they basically had to drag him into the room. He's 150lb dog. He was out cold. The nurse told me they only gave him a half dose. We basically carried him to the car, and he was completely knocked out for 5 hours at home. He came to a little bit before bedtime, then slept all night. He gets up and walks around and he's limping bad on his back leg. I'm not happy. Is it possible they gave him to much and he had a stroke, or they dropped him off the table back there and he hit his head and leg and messed him up? I don't know what to do.
MRIs are outrageously priced and very few people can afford them, so you should be offering other alternatives to this that are less costly.
My dog knows what's wrong with a full body sore
That's how a stroke is diagnosed in medicine.
Like most of us can afford any of those tests what the hell can you do for your dog when money is not availsble ?
What is head pressing?
My medium(-more towards the bigger side, but not quite as big as a large dog so smaller than a lab) sized 9 yr old female mutt had a stroke for the first time this month and had another one! What should we do? She’s perfect fine when she’s not having a stroke she’s actually great still has energy and eats alottt and runs and plays outside n with my other dog. Also she has a small bump which we think is a tumor on her side by rib cage
Does my dog have a stroke? We adopted him in 2016 (7 years ago), i'm not sure how old was he at 2016 but he was VERY young, this year he is acting really weird, he is a pekingese and he moves in a struggling way, and can barely even pick up food from the ground, i really feel bad for him.
Has he seen a veterinarian for this?
@@SEVNeurology no, our family also doesnt have enough money for a vet as my parents said.
How to help petdogs from stoke
5k to have an MRI for a dog is ridiculous. My 16 year old Schnauzer definitely had a stroke...but not a lot we can do about it....sucks.
My dog does not know what the disease is.
Hey my 9 year old boxer just earlier just collapsed out in the yard. At the time he wasn't responding to any of the other dogs and my grandpa came to get me. But when I went over there with my cousin he was reacting to me breathing and his tail was wagging then the female collie came outside and he jumped up like nothing that had happened we don't know if it was a seizure or stroke can anyone with more knowledge on this inform me
Hi Daemian. Oftentimes, advanced testing is needed in the diagnosis of a neurological condition. We always recommend consulting a Vet Neurologist if any neurological or spine condition is suspected. If you are in need of a consultation, please visit us online to find a location near you at sevneurology.com.
Sounds like my dog who had a paralyzed vocal chord. She would just suddenly keel over because her oxygen was cut off. She was first misdiagnosed as having a a syncope
So sad to see this. I hate it when it happens to any dog or cat. It just pains me.
I have a Little chihuahua that we rescued about 4 years ago. the Doctor thought that ( Chico ) was probably around 8 to 10 years old which today he would probably be between 12 and 15 years old. We have him in a large cage where he can walk around.
The reason we have him in there is because he urinates everywhere at any moment. So, we can't afford to go through 2 rolls of paper towels everyday. He does go in circles in there but when he is outside the cage, He never does that. he acts totally normal. But we have noticed that he tends to do a mixture of crying and howling at the same time mostly in the evening.
We do give him lots o' love and pet him frequently. So, we don't believe that it would be worth it to do such a costly workup just to see if he had or is having a stroke.
I cannot bring myself to put him down. It's way, way, to painful for me to do that. I just ask the Lord to either heal him or let him pass quietly in his sleep.
I had to put one of our cat's down because of a brain tumor that she had. Her name was CiCi and she was 15 years old. Just to show you how much it affects me, I am crying while I write this and it's been about a year and a half. 😭
We also had to put down a 14 year old blue nose pit bull because she also had a stomach tumor.
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It is so painful to see our "Kids" go through such diseases.
God bless you all who have or are dealing with situations involving disastrous diseases.
Wow..all the symptoms of stroke in every article i have read are CLOSELY related to Vestibular disease yet this video shows completely different symptoms. hhmmmm confused....
Vestibular disease (poor balance) can have many different causes
I’m reading this because my little dog has just had one and l can’t afford to take her to the vet, that breaks my heart as much as watching her lying here. I don’t think she is in pain as she won’t let me touch her but her head is on an angle. I will wait and see what morning brings.
I'm wondering if your little dog has recovered from the stroke. My pug dog just had one. He has lost his balance, can barely stand up at all, dizzy and disoriented, and cannot handle any excitement or sudden movements
@@christopherbond5127 how do you know its a stroke? Did you take them into the vet to be diagnosed? it may not be a stroke. It could be vestibular disease. how's the eyes doing?
@@crazydoglady5 my dog did recover! Not exactly sure what he had. Whenever he would try to get up to stand his head would go back and his eyes would look up, roll back. He would flop over if we tried to stand him up. 5 days getting gradually worse, then 5 days getting gradually better.
@@christopherbond5127 possible seizure? I would have taken the dog to the vet for diagnosis.
@@christopherbond5127 Its much easier to treat when you know what you are dealing with. Even without expensive tests, they can guess at it..giving you a chance to try to help your dog. NEVER let your dog just suffer not knowing what is going on. thats terrible.
Do dogs urinate immediately after a seizure or during a sezure. ?
Hi Sharon. It is common for dogs to urinate or defecate during a seizure episode. For more information about seizures in dogs, please refer to this article - sevneurology.com/blog/dog-epilepsy-treatment/
This guy is extremely annoying. He's reading the entire thing, and he looks like he's smiling. Between that and his monotonous voice, I can barely stand to watch this, but I will to learn what I need to learn.
Glad you learned something. Yeah, we don’t really hire our neurologists and neurosurgeons based on how great they are on camera and tend to focus on things like skill, compassion, drive, excellence, treating your pet like they’re our own and being there when you need us.
So literally there is nothing that can realistically be done and it goes away with time - so why spend $5,000+ on “ treatment”/MRI and diagnosis. What a scam.
Great question (minus the scam comment 🙂), and a very common thought process by pet parents.
Most people also have the questions: 1.Why is my pet doing this (e.g. why did this happen)? 2. Will my dog die? 3. What's the chance of him getting better? 4. What's the chance of this coming back/happening again?
The purpose of testing is a couple things.
1. Confirm that it's a stroke. Other conditions such as brain tumors, encephalitis, brain infections, toxicities and others may cause similar signs. Each of these conditions is treated differently and each has a different likelihood of getting better. Knowing what the cause of the symptoms is allows us treat it specifically and aggressively. Sometimes the treatment is surgery, sometimes it's medicine, and sometimes it's just supportive care while the pet gets better (in the case of a stroke).
2. If a stroke is confirmed via MRI, we then go looking for the underlying cause of the stroke. About half the time we find an underlying reason, such as high blood pressure, heart disease, kidney disease, endocrine disease (Cushing's, hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism are examples), cancer elsewhere in the body and others. IF we find a stroke and IF we find an underlying cause, we can minimize the chance of it happening again to your pet by treating that underlying cause.
I usually make a couple other points to pet parents when these questions come up:
1. If we had a magic crystal ball that told us the future and we KNEW your pet had a stroke and that it was going to get better with time and never happen again, we wouldn't recommend an MRI. We'd save you the money and be happy your pet got better.
2. Currently the closest thing to a 'crystal ball' is an MRI - it's the best way for us to know what the cause is, what the likelihood of getting better is and what the likelihood of recurrence is.
3. Our reputation of doing our best, making the right recommendation, and treating your pet as if it were our own means so much more than your money. Sure, money is needed in order to run a hospital, so we can't do everything for free. But the short term gain of "scamming" someone out of money only to lose our reputation isn't worth it.
4. If you, I, or our human family member started walking around in circles, slurring speech, not using half of the body, (or any other signs of a stroke), would we go to an ER, see a neurologist and get an MRI, etc. We wouldn't say "nah, I'm good, let's see if it gets better". Most pet parents feel it shouldn't be different for their four-legged family members.
What symptoms is your dog showing? (and I hope he or she is getting better).
The idea is that if you can get your dog seen quickly after the stroke has occurred they might be able to administer an antithrombolytic, which can potentially decrease the damage caused by the stroke. Other than that they're pretty much fucked. Rehab could certainly help.
Depends on the age of dog. MRI will confirm the diagnosis. Which may led to the correct meds been given. Such as blood thinners etc.
I decided not to give my dog the MRI due to his age 13 and he is a large breed so that's very old. I know in humans that are old most hospitals can only do so much so used that way fo thinking ( limited meds, supportive care, limited surgery due to age of person). It was a hard decsion but for me I thought the risks of GA, MRI stress, the benefits versus cons etc and maybe being somewhere foreign for him would be more stressful then being at home with us. In hindsight I made the right choice for our scenario but it was the hardest few months.
I did take weeks off and months of supportive 24/7 care. Including changing parts of the house to make it easier (carpet on wood floors, secondary water bowl) planning care with husband so we're on the same page. We taught him to walk again. Used a pair of strong but soft leggings as a sling under his belly to help him walk when he needed to go bathroom and just be calm around him if he fell also made sure it was safe to fall and of he going to then just supported him so it was no injury. We identified the dangers of your prpoerty and his movements to prevent injury.
He had his first stroke 25th April. Recovered in May end/ June. Had another stroke last night 26th August. We're supporting him now.a I don't regret my decision. He recovered well thought it was emotionally and physically draining and we did get June, July and most of August where he was normal.
Please pray for us that he recovers quickly or if it is his time he goes peacefully in his sleep and doesn't suffer. I love him with all my heart.
How to make a person feel guilty because one can't afford all of this. Mine at 14.8 years old I let her go.
Can you at least sound like you’re not reading everything you’re saying! You should know this -you definitely don’t sound the least bit like you care
he is a neurologists not an news reader or actor! learn of what he says or just dont comment negative stuff, this could be helpfull for someone
What can I do to help my dog . She has now stopped but for like half a day she was going in circles non stop 🫤
Best to see a neurologist to find out the cause. Circling can be due to lots of different causes, some of which can be cured and others that cannot.