That last line there gets a laugh from me. He used the story of Snowdon Mountain Railway L.A.D.A.S. (the full name wouldn't fit on such a little engine!) and uses it to scare the others into behaving.
According to the Island of Sodor book, this story about Godred really did happen. That last line at the end of this story about Culdee making it up was tacked on to the end because the publisher refused to publish the story without such an amendment. The story was supposed to end at "Sir Handel and Duncan were unusually silent long after Culdee had gone home." A much more chilling end than the finished version.
@@alexlazebat839 Evidently, the publisher didn't object to Stanley's fate (he wasn't "Smudger" in the books) since being turned into a pumping engine didn't mean he was dead, whereas Godred's fate was unambiguously a death.
Joshua V it took me 9 years to find out about rws man i saw the books but i was like "where is it coming from whata the name " it was a big mystery for me
Godred was likely strait up scraped, if you see the photos of the accident that Awdry based this story one the engine was completely totaled and it didn't look like anything was salvageable.
A real life steam engine from the Snowdon mountain railway this book was based on. You'll understand why they don't show Godred's crash when you find the image of L.A.D.A.S after it's accident.
I was thinking more of a person and his family surviving a cold winter, he got injured, had no food left and died in his bed. His family members then cannibalized on his remains to survive. Grizzly I know, which is why it's not nice.
I see what you mean. Skarloey and Rheneas knew that the story about Godred (as told by Culdee) is true. What is also true is that Godred's real life counterpart L.A.D.A.S. faced her fate after she derailed, tumbling down the steep slope. That was during the grand opening of the Snowdon Mountain Railway.
I wonder after hearing Culdee's story Sir Handel thought of the time (back when he was called Falcon) when he almost fell off the mountain but Duke had saved him
I just love how petrified Sir Handel and Duncan look at the end. The cherry on the top is that Skarloey and Rheneas knew it wasn't true, but kept that to themselves.
I think the story was true, but they never told them that it wasn't. They wanted them to be scared into behaving themselves and showing respect to their coaches.
My headcanon is that Godred died from his fall, and the workers only cannibalized Godred's "corpse". Therefore, Culdee TECHNICALLY made the story up, but only part of it.
@@NirateGoel This is from the Island of Sodor: Its People, History, and Railways, Page 67: "Happily the passengers kept calm and no one was injured; but the engine, when recovered next day, was found to be beyond local repair. Rebuilding at this stage was financially out of the question, so Godred’s remains were put at the back of the Shed at Kirk Machan where, for the next few years, they provided a useful collection of spare parts for repairing the others (ME/26-29)." Perhaps his "corpse" was scrapped after everything useful had been taken.
I mean, it's a story for children. Awdry pushed the boundaries at times but outright saying a character died and was harvested for parts would be too much.
Maybe Culdee heard what happened to Godred’s Sister Ladas on the snowdon mountain railway so he said godred was cannibalised to make sir handel and Duncan be more careful
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i can understand why they didn’t adapt these stories, they could’ve done the small engines with clever camera work, but my god the mechanisms would be impossible
All original 5 Culdee Fell engines weren’t even a year old so they were all young though due to being number one Godred was probably built slightly before Culdee along with Ernest Wilfred and Shane Dooiney
I think after hearing Culdee's story Sir Handel thought of the time (back when he was called Falcon) when he almost fell off the mountain but Duke had saved him
And so were the other 3 “Mountain Engines” stories - Culdee’s trail trip in “Mountain Engine” was based off how the Snowdon’s #5 Moal-Siabod had a similar trial trip on inspection with 2 coaches before the Snowdon line opened to the public. As for the last others, Snowdon’s #6 Sir-Hadmood derailed at the summit like in “Danger Points”, change names to Pardan and saved climbers during a gale like in “Devil’s-Back”. Anyways, as of “Bad Look-Out”, lets vote for a new #1 on the Snowdon called Ladas Jr.
That's so sad I mean Godred did have it coming to him. I mean I don't want want to be the bad guy here, but he didn't listen and he had to suffer the consequences. I can't believe Godred was named after King Godred himself when you think about it, he's like his son
Well the end of the story said the story was fake. With that, my guess is that maybe the manager turned Godred into a fireplace at a cottage on the other side of the mountain. And if he ever grumbled, as I expect he has, nobody ever pays any attention.
At about 1:38, Skarloey says that haveing Cathrine must take a load of Culdee's mind and Culdee replys "Yes, but not off my buffers." Culdee has no buffers!
Culdee may have made this story up, but on the real Snowdon Mountain railway, that the Rev. W awdry based this story on, is in fact based on real life events of a locomotive that actually came of the rails and rolled down the hill.
I had no idea that Godred died. I could never really read the words in the railway series books when I was little, so I always expected that he didn't die, and also had no idea that Cauldee made him up.
@ThePsykoMantis Perhaps. You know, I think I got confused. I kept thinking about whether the entirety of the story was true or not. I never thought segment-wise, not until after reading 7Lightening's comment - which I did just before typing this reply.
Apparently Rev. wanted Godred to mimick the engine LADAS, which derailed and was scrapped the first day the line it ran on was opened. But in order to not bother the readers, he claimed Culdee made up Godred.
0:33-0:47 They did TOO, sir!!!!! Coaches DO that, you know!!! EVERYONE does!!! He HAD a good look-out! And you CAN'T leave him at the back of the shed like that! Duncan is RIGHT!!! It ISN'T fair, especially to be treating him like this! You must NEVER do that kind of stuff to him, EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Besides, you do TOO have the money! You're just too stubborn to use it, and you SHOULDN'T be!! That's NOT being a Proper Controller! Use it NOW, or we'll SACK you for quite a while!!!!
The Lorebook for the Railway Series confirms that this actually happened and that Culdee just lied about making it up, just to not scare the engines too much. And also to not scare the kids reading too much. So yeah, that's why the Culdee Fell has no No. 1.
@@AmirPrinceling I think he just made up the part where there was anything left of Godred TO talk to. I've seen photos of LADAS; the part where the face goes did not exist anymore after that crash.
I like to head canon that culdee had heard of the story whilst being repaired in England (donald says he was there being mended in the last story) surely someone at the works there had heard the story, or perhaps culdee was repaired using said spare parts. The story of godred may be made up, but the story of a mountain engine falling down a cliff and being used for parts is very real. He likely made up godred to make the story more personal and mournful, to hit Duncan and sir handle a little harder.
I think it's real because Godred was their Number 1 and they didn't allocate that number to a new engine, just like L.A.D.A.S. was the Snowdon Mountain Railway's Number 1.
I would have liked to have seen this story series 4 but the models and sets would have been too expensive to make! I can picture the kids in Shining Time Station being shocked after Mr. Conductor tells the story of Godred and they ask if the story was really made up!
Culdee might’ve made the story up this whole time but the thing is.... There was never a no.1 on the Culdee Fell Railway. Since this story was based on a real events, it begs the question Was the story actually real or not?
It did but maybe not the same as Culdee told because according to the book "The Island of Sodor it's people history and railway" It said that Godred's crash did happened and he was scrapped in 1900. Also in the next story there's no number1 engine on the railway
"Our drivers used godred's parts.... to mend us." the way that was delivered was ice cold.
Any US fans enjoying Willie Rushton's narration should really look up a cartoon series called The Trap Door. He did all the voices and it's hilarious.
I'm a US fan and 2 weeks ago I typed up the cartoon series called the Trap door
Joshua V he did The Trap Door?! NO WONDER HE SOUNDS FAMILIAR NOW!!!
Thank you
Culdee has a morbid sense of humour.
not even Duke was that morbid
Yeah. Your right
That last line there gets a laugh from me.
He used the story of Snowdon Mountain Railway L.A.D.A.S. (the full name wouldn't fit on such a little engine!) and uses it to scare the others into behaving.
1:40
"But not of my buffers!"
Culdee doesn't have buffers.
CrikeyFellRailway There is 1 on the front.
1:40
I think he made a similar mistake in Duke the Lost Engine, during "You Can't Win!"
The end of this answers the question of why this was never televised. It's even darker than locking Henry up in the tunnel.
The whole culdee fell railway isnt mentioned in the tv series
He got out of the tunnel
the mechanisms would cost too much
@@daanvos194 this actually isn’t true, it was mentioned in this learning segment ua-cam.com/video/IOaQuz8fSkw/v-deo.html
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And it exists in the cgi era, as its mentioned in an informational
According to the Island of Sodor book, this story about Godred really did happen. That last line at the end of this story about Culdee making it up was tacked on to the end because the publisher refused to publish the story without such an amendment. The story was supposed to end at "Sir Handel and Duncan were unusually silent long after Culdee had gone home." A much more chilling end than the finished version.
but they do use that in duke the lost engine with smudger
@@alexlazebat839 Evidently, the publisher didn't object to Stanley's fate (he wasn't "Smudger" in the books) since being turned into a pumping engine didn't mean he was dead, whereas Godred's fate was unambiguously a death.
@@milestinker2178 but if he fell off a moutain how can he be used for spares
@@alexlazebat839 The people recovered his damaged self from the crash site at the bottom of the mountain.
That would explain why Skarloey and Rheneas didn’t tell sir Handel & Duncan it was made up.
Till this day i still have the take and play cudlee.its weird that it took me.....8 years to find out he was from the book series
It took me 5 years to find out what the railway series was. I found out about the Railway series in 2011
Joshua V it took me 9 years to find out about rws man i saw the books but i was like "where is it coming from whata the name " it was a big mystery for me
does he have eyes on both sides
I have one, sitting in a box in our basement. Up until 3 years ago, I had no idea he existed. I thought he was just a one-off character or something.
Godred was likely strait up scraped, if you see the photos of the accident that Awdry based this story one the engine was completely totaled and it didn't look like anything was salvageable.
Very intersting to see all the narrow gauge engnes red. I'm so used to they being diferent colors in the TV series!
I’d wager that was a decision by the show runners to help better distinguish them for the kids watching.
I loved this story!
This WAS actually based on actual events
And sadly there were a few casualties in the real crash.
Really?!
What happened?
@@oscarkageson-loe well, the LADAS engine suffered almost the exact same fate as Godred. Tumbled down the mountain, annihilated.
Yes
I would like to see this episodes on the TV,the oldest episodes in the book in the TV,but this episode I would like to see more than the others.
So, Culdee told them the story of L.A.D.A.S. but covered it up as a story from their railway?
Yep. And includes the fact that they recycled bits from her, Culdee claiming that they hadn't.
who/what is L.A.D.A.S.?
A real life steam engine from the Snowdon mountain railway this book was based on. You'll understand why they don't show Godred's crash when you find the image of L.A.D.A.S after it's accident.
Oh...oh God. I know what you mean. Damn.
Yeah, imagine THAT with a face...
Yikes...culdee you savage XD
Makes you quickly realize WHY they never appear even now. That end got WAY too dark, even if it was a joke
Imagine if we were them.
A person has a horrible injury and will die soon. . .so we torture the person by donating body parts until they died.
Yeah so ? they were a bad person anyway he got what they deserved
I was thinking more of a person and his family surviving a cold winter, he got injured, had no food left and died in his bed. His family members then cannibalized on his remains to survive.
Grizzly I know, which is why it's not nice.
Godred the organ donor
@@newseriesfan but thats too far and can be arrested by doing that to some one. even a bad person dosent deserve to get that punishment
I see what you mean. Skarloey and Rheneas knew that the story about Godred (as told by Culdee) is true. What is also true is that Godred's real life counterpart L.A.D.A.S. faced her fate after she derailed, tumbling down the steep slope. That was during the grand opening of the Snowdon Mountain Railway.
0:45 If I was Skarloey, I would have said “OH SHIT UP, DUNCAN, CAN9T YOU SEE WE HAVE A GUEST?!”
I wonder after hearing Culdee's story Sir Handel thought of the time (back when he was called Falcon) when he almost fell off the mountain but Duke had saved him
I just love how petrified Sir Handel and Duncan look at the end. The cherry on the top is that Skarloey and Rheneas knew it wasn't true, but kept that to themselves.
But godred did actually indeed had an accident but he might still be in the back of the shed scrapped and still there
@@rorymoore8982 that was his real life counterpart. Besides, the dialogue said the Culdee made the story up.
I think the story was true, but they never told them that it wasn't. They wanted them to be scared into behaving themselves and showing respect to their coaches.
3:18 Look at Sir Handel and Duncan faces.
LOL!!!!
My headcanon is that Godred died from his fall, and the workers only cannibalized Godred's "corpse". Therefore, Culdee TECHNICALLY made the story up, but only part of it.
According to the IOS book Godred did fall off the mountain but was scrapped rather than canabalised.
@@NirateGoel This is from the Island of Sodor: Its People, History, and Railways, Page 67:
"Happily the passengers kept calm
and no one was injured; but the engine, when recovered next
day, was found to be beyond local repair. Rebuilding at this stage
was financially out of the question, so Godred’s remains were
put at the back of the Shed at Kirk Machan where, for the next
few years, they provided a useful collection of spare parts for
repairing the others (ME/26-29)."
Perhaps his "corpse" was scrapped after everything useful had been taken.
And people outside the fandom complain that The Sad Story of Henry is dark
FUN FACT: Willie Rushton voiced the main characters in the 1984 show "The Trap Door".
I sense that Awdry was forced to add the part of Culdee making it up. It seems forced and unnatural to the story being presented
I mean, it's a story for children. Awdry pushed the boundaries at times but outright saying a character died and was harvested for parts would be too much.
Maybe Culdee heard what happened to Godred’s Sister Ladas on the snowdon mountain railway so he said godred was cannibalised to make sir handel and Duncan be more careful
Willie Rushton?! Oh globbits, it's Berk form Trap Door!
The memories!
The day the line opened
Poor Godred,his arrogance took him to his death...
Indeed
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This proves Thomas is more than just for preschoolers.
At least we have Mighty Mac
And the fact that it really happen
i can understand why they didn’t adapt these stories, they could’ve done the small engines with clever camera work, but my god the mechanisms would be impossible
If only Godred had used his automatic brakes wisely, he never would have been in a terrible accident.
Dang my childhood was way darker than it. I thought it was.
3:07 Glass shattering sound effects.
Good lord, that was dark
2:39 I don’t think godred is young.he seems to be older than Culdee
All original 5 Culdee Fell engines weren’t even a year old so they were all young though due to being number one Godred was probably built slightly before Culdee along with Ernest Wilfred and Shane Dooiney
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Sir Handel and Duncan needed a good scare!
I think after hearing Culdee's story Sir Handel thought of the time (back when he was called Falcon) when he almost fell off the mountain but Duke had saved him
In fact, was it after telling them about Godred that Donald brought Culdee home in the next story?
I have always been wondering why do the Culdee Fell Railway engines have faces on the front and back? Is it they can also see backwards?
EngineGresley4468 i guess so
Was godred's accident based on a true event?
Yes,it really happened
On the Snowden Railway
Yes, his basis L.A.D.A.S, only thing that was different was that in real life, a passenger was killed
And so were the other 3 “Mountain Engines” stories - Culdee’s trail trip in “Mountain Engine” was based off how the Snowdon’s #5 Moal-Siabod had a similar trial trip on inspection with 2 coaches before the Snowdon line opened to the public. As for the last others, Snowdon’s #6 Sir-Hadmood derailed at the summit like in “Danger Points”, change names to Pardan and saved climbers during a gale like in “Devil’s-Back”. Anyways, as of “Bad Look-Out”, lets vote for a new #1 on the Snowdon called Ladas Jr.
there`s and odd refrence to duncans situation in the end of the story
There is a coach called Katherine Jenkins OBE after the welsh singer on the line.
Cast
Sir Handel the Grumpy Engine as Culdee the Mountain Engine
Yes, it's dangerous on mountains.
If Culdee told Skarloey and Rheneas that the story of Godred was made up, who told Culdee about it?
i think this should have been taking place in season 21
I climbed the mountains for ages, but...
Where did you get the audio from?
Also, what happened to Godred's face?
I’d say it turns into thin air
When I realized that the show is a dark show with deaths
If this was adapted into S4 Smudger would fit Gorded's role and it would be the reason why he got turned into a Generator.
That's so sad I mean Godred did have it coming to him. I mean I don't want want to be the bad guy here, but he didn't listen and he had to suffer the consequences. I can't believe Godred was named after King Godred himself when you think about it, he's like his son
If we’re to assume that the story is true, the most disturbing part is “As time went on, poor Godred got smaller, and smaller, till nothing was left”.
Well the end of the story said the story was fake.
With that, my guess is that maybe the manager turned Godred into a fireplace at a cottage on the other side of the mountain. And if he ever grumbled, as I expect he has, nobody ever pays any attention.
Hardly disturbing at all. Alot of accident damaged engines end up cannibalised.
This are locos not people
At about 1:38, Skarloey says that haveing Cathrine must take a load of Culdee's mind and Culdee replys "Yes, but not off my buffers." Culdee has no buffers!
So Godred really did die? Wow! As a child I always thought that Culdee had made it up.
He did make it up
Nah, it’s just a friendly-child ending and Godred did really crash
@@terencewilliammckenna6121 Actually according to "Sodor: It's People, History and Railways", it really did happen... :\
@@Jackwald001 Yes, indeed. Thus, I wish they'd get a new #1 (same for the Snowdon).
RIP Godred
Amazing job guys!!
Culdee may have made this story up, but on the real Snowdon Mountain railway, that the Rev. W awdry based this story on, is in fact based on real life events of a locomotive that actually came of the rails and rolled down the hill.
According to the IOS book Godred did indeed fall off the mountain but was scrapped rather than canabalised.
I had no idea that Godred died. I could never really read the words in the railway series books when I was little, so I always expected that he didn't die, and also had no idea that Cauldee made him up.
He did not made him up
+2x2x2x2 so he was real?
3:25-3:33 Can I use this part for a video I’m making in either 2025 or 2026?
@ThePsykoMantis Perhaps. You know, I think I got confused. I kept thinking about whether the entirety of the story was true or not. I never thought segment-wise, not until after reading 7Lightening's comment - which I did just before typing this reply.
thanks man
In my fan made series Godred will not die. He will be repaired and given a new name, Starstrider.
true story btw one of the ones based real life events
Even though I've never read the books, is Culdee's story about godred being canniblised as spare parts real or fake
Apparently Rev. wanted Godred to mimick the engine LADAS, which derailed and was scrapped the first day the line it ran on was opened. But in order to not bother the readers, he claimed Culdee made up Godred.
If LADAS is a she shouldn't Godred be Gudrun?
There is a typo in the video description: you spelled "book" with one K too many.
0:33-0:47 They did TOO, sir!!!!! Coaches DO that, you know!!! EVERYONE does!!! He HAD a good look-out! And you CAN'T leave him at the back of the shed like that! Duncan is RIGHT!!! It ISN'T fair, especially to be treating him like this! You must NEVER do that kind of stuff to him, EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides, you do TOO have the money! You're just too stubborn to use it, and you SHOULDN'T be!! That's NOT being a Proper Controller! Use it NOW, or we'll SACK you for quite a while!!!!
What are you talking about
@@cnmn1692 I'm commentating/berating The Thin Controller for what he said to Duncan in this episode.
Me Too!
Honestly the only traumatizing kids story in my opinion
At the it says " Culdee made while story up " so Godred isn't dead
No according to the IOS book Godred was scrapped the made up part was the canabilsation.
I don’t care if the story was made up this is the most shocking death we’ve ever seen in all of the railway series lord
The Lorebook for the Railway Series confirms that this actually happened and that Culdee just lied about making it up, just to not scare the engines too much. And also to not scare the kids reading too much.
So yeah, that's why the Culdee Fell has no No. 1.
@@AmirPrinceling I think he just made up the part where there was anything left of Godred TO talk to. I've seen photos of LADAS; the part where the face goes did not exist anymore after that crash.
I like to head canon that culdee had heard of the story whilst being repaired in England (donald says he was there being mended in the last story) surely someone at the works there had heard the story, or perhaps culdee was repaired using said spare parts.
The story of godred may be made up, but the story of a mountain engine falling down a cliff and being used for parts is very real. He likely made up godred to make the story more personal and mournful, to hit Duncan and sir handle a little harder.
I think it's real because Godred was their Number 1 and they didn't allocate that number to a new engine, just like L.A.D.A.S. was the Snowdon Mountain Railway's Number 1.
He made it up.
Godred is real engine on the railway. Like L.A.D.A.S
I saw that picture on ttte.wikia.
I’d say Godred somehow survived the bad crash...but he didn’t make it on the trip back to the sheds 😐...dark
Let’s all vote for a new steam locomotive as Snowdon’s #1 - Ladas Jr.
really? when did it happen?
Poor godred got smaller and smaller until there was nothing left......
This part it's pretty dark and sad
Poor godred he got smaller and smaller and nothing but left
3:33 Dunkin:Um What
Lol Culdee made it up
2:43 pic of godred that fell
I would have liked to have seen this story series 4 but the models and sets would have been too expensive to make!
I can picture the kids in Shining Time Station being shocked after Mr. Conductor tells the story of Godred and they ask if the story was really made up!
@MalechiPerez
I'm not sure but it will be wise not to know...
@NewController01 what? there was purple talking engine with a face on there back?!?!? i mean railway!!!!
If culdee made the story up, does that mean godred is still alive?
He could be
No, in The island of Sodor book it said that Godred's accident did happened and he was scrapped in 1900
Well, I think it served him right for being conceited about his name and for not learning his lesson about safety on the mountain railway.
Cool
Culdee might’ve made the story up this whole time but the thing is.... There was never a no.1 on the Culdee Fell Railway. Since this story was based on a real events, it begs the question
Was the story actually real or not?
According to the IOS book Godred did fall off the mountain but was scrapped rather than canabalised.
The narration says “Culdee had made the story up”. Does that mean the accident godred had never really happened?
It did but maybe not the same as Culdee told because according to the book "The Island of Sodor it's people history and railway" It said that Godred's crash did happened and he was scrapped in 1900. Also in the next story there's no number1 engine on the railway
@@pukenmg284 I see.
Ihave the purple train in ertl form
Well no not really fake, it happened in real life on the Snowden railway when it first opened.
Motins Engines
What if they made enough money to put Godred back together? When they do, Godred would be more wise and careful.
Yeah they should’ve restored godred
Culdee and Godred never appeared in the TV series.
Godred....😢
I feel like Culdee didn’t make it up. They have no #1 so what if he was real. I feel like that’s what Awdry wanted to write.
To all of you who think it was made up by Culdee
If Godred wasn't real, then who was their number 1?
Well is a old books but thomas and friends is never
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