From my research I think the pressure chamber is what you want over the vacuum chamber! The vacuum chamber would be good if you were trying to use cactus juice to infuse a porous or punky piece of wood with a really thin liquid.. Just my two cents, I could be completely wrong.
My understanding is that pressure chamber compresses down any air bubbles in the pour until they "dissappear" while a vacuum chamber will suck them out and, presumably, the resin will replace them.... first you place the piece and fill the chamber with the resin, then suck out all the air, then release the vacuum, and let the pressure ( ambient...or I suppose you could push some back in if the chamber will accept this) forces the resins into the now empty voids. For stabilizing wood ( and if you are going to be getting potentially punky, but extremely visually interesting, turning blanks from Blaise, then you may well want one of these It's long been my thought that you do the above, suck out the air and then push in the resin, but as I've never done either, what do I know?
Peter Brown did a comparison of the two, check his video "Resin Casting: Pressure vs Vacuum" (not direct linking because youtube likes to eat comments that contain them, sorry.)
On if you had rough drilled it out. You could have used a wood waist rod in the center. Then spray with a mold release on it and cast it in the resin. And redrill it or remove it the do the finish turning. Also a carbide insert from a carbide turning tool in the end of a rod.
For someone who didn't have a clue what they was doing you did a very good job, they look great well done Matt. Just a suggestion but you might have been better with Milliput.
I have never messed with epoxy before. With that being said would have been possible to completely submerge the nuts and the pull a vacuum to try and get the epoxy into every void without any air bubbles? Maybe something to experiment with in the future great videos keep up the great work.
I remember when you started turning Tuesday, you said you wanted a challenge, I think you definitely got it here. They look really good though, nice job.
'turning Tuesday' becomes 'turning week' haha! Very cool how you pushed true, because the end result is great! I'm new to woodturning myself as a hobby, and I've also bought the same hardware for pepper and salt mills some time ago. You gave me some ideas! Have a good day!
Hi Matt, great video. Ive started making pepper mills in the last few days and from my research one gent said that the lugs which require the recess tool are not required as they are to stop slipping in a metal body, the other sharp lined edging on the mechanism will cut into the wood and hold it in place. I do love your ingenuity with your home made tool though.
Matt you might want to try a pressure pot and a resin mix. The pressure drives in the resin so the air bubbles escape. Love watching a new approach to wood turning. If a tool works for you, use it!!
Lots of Bankisa in Oz, it's an Australian native plant. Usually it ends up as the tattiest kitsch you can imagine, but I really like what you've done with these S+P grinders (though I think the salt worked better than the pepper) - the plain straight lines complementing the organic roundness of the Banksia very nicely. Well done.
great job Matt...especially in such difficult material. Awesome work. I'm a little surprised there was no liner for the main volume. that would keep the salt and pepper off the "wood".
Just a thought for making sure the voids are filled, if you try it again at any point. Turn down to almost size then make a close to fit box and fill that with epoxy standard runny epoxy. Almost as if you were trying to make a cast. Its a bit wasteful but if you got it on a shaker whilst filling up the box it should get everywhere i'd of thought.
These look awesome. Great work. As someone who doesnt know anything about turning, could you have made the chambers then friction fit in a sacrificial piece of PVC to use as a stopper of sorts for all of the pod holes then filled them in with epoxy before doing the outside shaping? Then just carve away the sacrificial piece of PVC? Also I think it would have worked better to keep the epoxy more liquid and pour into the holes in stages so you dont get the problem of voids with the thicker consistency. It would obviously take a lot more time but curious to see if you think it may have turned (no pun intended) out better because of that.
dunno if it was suggested already, but for future reference a syringe might be a good way to fill the holes with the filler substance. Or turn them down to a certain diameter, put them in a form that leaves just a little room and flood that with more liquid epoxy and then just turn the surplus epoxy off again. Would be my ideas for that issue.
Sorry - I've no idea about wood working so don't take my question wrong: How many times you had to refill the holes with Epoxy? Personally I only worked with Metal due to my apprenticeship, so my first idea was simple "To put wax into the drilled out Wood, after the final form is made, then apply the Epoxy, let it dry and then melt the wax out" but I think with wood that wouldn't work quiet well. But there in our day & age, there has to be some sort of Plasticine which wouldn't stick to the Wood itself? But probaly it would be too expensive and the deal of making a Counterpart (Which you could stick into your Mills while applying the Epoxy) would be also too time consuming. But great work, now I want even more an engine lathe.
I sometime used cheap latex gloves with some makeup removal cotton pads on the back side of the hands. This helps protect your hands when roughing out and if they catch, they just rip.
Wow. Surprised you went with the thickening it up and pushing it in method. I figured at the start you would be keeping it liquid and then just turning the nut down to a diameter to fit in a cylindrical mold (like a container for pasta or something) and then pouring in the liquid to fill all the holes.
Matt, superb work yet again. I could not however even handle the resultant grinders as the inclusions in the nuts make me squirm. Wired or what? Keep up the good work big fella. Dave
@@MattEstlea Thank you Matt, another word for my vocabulary. I am pleased to see however that according to Wikipedia it is not recognised as a mental illness. There is hope for me yet. Best Regards, Dave
I have no idea what Banksia nut are but something it my head make me feel sick looking at them, I've seen the finished project and it looks good, but cant look at it before the finish is on. i can't wait for the next video
@@The13jamie I have it for sure, not really a fear, makes me feel funny though. I remember when I was about 7 seeing a video of a frog and it's babies were hatching out of its back!! Gross. Think that's where it came from for me.
Really really cool video! I've just finished building a tool chest from almost entirely solid oak (and a small amount of OSB ofc), this is largely been made from your teachings, along with Rob Cosman and Rex Krueger. I'd be really happy to share images of it with you if you're interested and if you are; what's the best method? I'll be sharing it on imgur soon anyway :)
Those are the biggest Nutz I've clapped (no pun intended) eyes on for a while and you call them salt and pepper....ROFL :-) Nice work Matt. Can you not use latex gloves? Oh and it that lathe dust collection thing "out of order"
bleugh. Those nuts make me irrationally uncomfortable. They look kind of like wasps nests. The finished parts look pretty nice, but the original nuts just got my lizard brain screaming "Kill it with FIRE! Then run away!" through the whole video. That just reinforced the notion that every living thing in Australia is out to kill me.
I have made a number of crush grind mills and they are no as difficult as you have made it. First, cast whole piece in resin to get a solid object. Then turn rough outer shape. Next drill holes, part top from piece & size tenon. Finish outer shape with top connected. Sand finish and assemble. You have roughly succeeded in spite of yourself. Read the instructions that accompany the kit and you'll have an easier time. NOT impressed with this.
Yea. Vacuum Chamber is definitely on the cards. Any recommendations?
Also, is it any different to a pressure chamber?
From my research I think the pressure chamber is what you want over the vacuum chamber! The vacuum chamber would be good if you were trying to use cactus juice to infuse a porous or punky piece of wood with a really thin liquid.. Just my two cents, I could be completely wrong.
My understanding is that pressure chamber compresses down any air bubbles in the pour until they "dissappear" while a vacuum chamber will suck them out and, presumably, the resin will replace them.... first you place the piece and fill the chamber with the resin, then suck out all the air, then release the vacuum, and let the pressure ( ambient...or I suppose you could push some back in if the chamber will accept this) forces the resins into the now empty voids.
For stabilizing wood ( and if you are going to be getting potentially punky, but extremely visually interesting, turning blanks from Blaise, then you may well want one of these
It's long been my thought that you do the above, suck out the air and then push in the resin, but as I've never done either, what do I know?
Peter Brown did a comparison of the two, check his video "Resin Casting: Pressure vs Vacuum" (not direct linking because youtube likes to eat comments that contain them, sorry.)
@@Aubreykun That's really helpful, thank you!
On if you had rough drilled it out. You could have used a wood waist rod in the center. Then spray with a mold release on it and cast it in the resin. And redrill it or remove it the do the finish turning.
Also a carbide insert from a carbide turning tool in the end of a rod.
For someone who didn't have a clue what they was doing you did a very good job, they look great well done Matt. Just a suggestion but you might have been better with Milliput.
Cheers Chris. Will look into it!
Thanks Matt, the trypophobic amongst us enjoyed that, no end! Thank whoever, that you epoxied the holes.
The Poms have finally found a benefit to their little colony down south. Banksia nuts.
Your mum is going to love those Matt. Well done!
A lot of Australian timbers are notoriously difficult to work with, and Banksias are no exception. You did a fine job putting this together, Matt.
Bloody brilliant job mate!!
You were right Matt, well worth the wait. Crazy turning Tuesday.
I was 100% expecting some kind of %*#@ed up looking centipede to crawl out of those holes the whole time.
So was I!
A superb final result, though it took a lot of work to get there. It is very satisfying making something beautiful for somebody you love.
I have never messed with epoxy before. With that being said would have been possible to completely submerge the nuts and the pull a vacuum to try and get the epoxy into every void without any air bubbles? Maybe something to experiment with in the future great videos keep up the great work.
Yea I think it's definitely going to need something like that. Researching it now!
There is nothing wrong with making due with what you have on hand. Great job!
I remember when you started turning Tuesday, you said you wanted a challenge, I think you definitely got it here. They look really good though, nice job.
'turning Tuesday' becomes 'turning week' haha! Very cool how you pushed true, because the end result is great! I'm new to woodturning myself as a hobby, and I've also bought the same hardware for pepper and salt mills some time ago. You gave me some ideas! Have a good day!
Hi Matt, great video. Ive started making pepper mills in the last few days and from my research one gent said that the lugs which require the recess tool are not required as they are to stop slipping in a metal body, the other sharp lined edging on the mechanism will cut into the wood and hold it in place. I do love your ingenuity with your home made tool though.
Matt you might want to try a pressure pot and a resin mix. The pressure drives in the resin so the air bubbles escape. Love watching a new approach to wood turning. If a tool works for you, use it!!
Well Matt! Think we can agree that it took a huge set of nuts to do that! Well done mate 👍🏻
Lots of Bankisa in Oz, it's an Australian native plant. Usually it ends up as the tattiest kitsch you can imagine, but I really like what you've done with these S+P grinders (though I think the salt worked better than the pepper) - the plain straight lines complementing the organic roundness of the Banksia very nicely. Well done.
Nice job mate! definitely getting better with that skew :)
great job Matt...especially in such difficult material. Awesome work. I'm a little surprised there was no liner for the main volume. that would keep the salt and pepper off the "wood".
Just a thought for making sure the voids are filled, if you try it again at any point. Turn down to almost size then make a close to fit box and fill that with epoxy standard runny epoxy. Almost as if you were trying to make a cast. Its a bit wasteful but if you got it on a shaker whilst filling up the box it should get everywhere i'd of thought.
These look awesome. Great work. As someone who doesnt know anything about turning, could you have made the chambers then friction fit in a sacrificial piece of PVC to use as a stopper of sorts for all of the pod holes then filled them in with epoxy before doing the outside shaping? Then just carve away the sacrificial piece of PVC? Also I think it would have worked better to keep the epoxy more liquid and pour into the holes in stages so you dont get the problem of voids with the thicker consistency. It would obviously take a lot more time but curious to see if you think it may have turned (no pun intended) out better because of that.
Love this channel! It doesnt pretend to know everything like every other woodworker on youtube. Btw, only me that just found out you have Trypophobia?
Thank you for that Christopher! :)
Great video man! Those turned out great!
You could inflate an old inner tube in the void to avoid epoxy being pushed in to it. Great video of something unusual
Well turned Matt. Need to try grinders myself...
Great quality video as usual. Huge fan! Keep doing what you doin!
dunno if it was suggested already, but for future reference a syringe might be a good way to fill the holes with the filler substance. Or turn them down to a certain diameter, put them in a form that leaves just a little room and flood that with more liquid epoxy and then just turn the surplus epoxy off again. Would be my ideas for that issue.
Pressure Pot Casting for the win...
Great project though. Casting could be its own day of the week.
Stunning
Sorry - I've no idea about wood working so don't take my question wrong:
How many times you had to refill the holes with Epoxy?
Personally I only worked with Metal due to my apprenticeship, so my first idea was simple "To put wax into the drilled out Wood, after the final form is made, then apply the Epoxy, let it dry and then melt the wax out" but I think with wood that wouldn't work quiet well.
But there in our day & age, there has to be some sort of Plasticine which wouldn't stick to the Wood itself? But probaly it would be too expensive and the deal of making a Counterpart (Which you could stick into your Mills while applying the Epoxy) would be also too time consuming.
But great work, now I want even more an engine lathe.
I sometime used cheap latex gloves with some makeup removal cotton pads on the back side of the hands. This helps protect your hands when roughing out and if they catch, they just rip.
That's an interesting idea! Cheers!
I can see your marking knife blanks in the background mate looking forward to those 😉
or maybe pens.
Wow. Surprised you went with the thickening it up and pushing it in method.
I figured at the start you would be keeping it liquid and then just turning the nut down to a diameter to fit in a cylindrical mold (like a container for pasta or something) and then pouring in the liquid to fill all the holes.
Never heard of banksia nuts before. Ugh, those things are straight out of some horrifying Freudian nightmare sequence!
Matt, superb work yet again.
I could not however even handle the resultant grinders as the inclusions in the nuts make me squirm. Wired or what?
Keep up the good work big fella.
Dave
Hahaha! It's a common thing to be weirded out by. It's called Trypophobia.
@@MattEstlea
Thank you Matt, another word for my vocabulary. I am pleased to see however that according to Wikipedia it is not recognised as a mental illness. There is hope for me yet.
Best Regards,
Dave
Cool
filling-less-messy tip: put the resin in a small plastic bag. Clip of one point and squeeze out the resin in the holes ...
Oh yea! Like one of those things they use in kitchens. Great idea!
Matt Estlea yeah... Or really just a small bag (as long as you can squeeze the resin out)
Very nice. And did it work? Did all the mechanics fit and does it grind well?
I have no idea what Banksia nut are but something it my head make me feel sick looking at them, I've seen the finished project and it looks good, but cant look at it before the finish is on. i can't wait for the next video
I think you have trypophobia.
@@ApexHerbivore I just googled it and I think your right, I'm not scared of things like that but I definitely don't like them.
@@The13jamie I have it for sure, not really a fear, makes me feel funny though. I remember when I was about 7 seeing a video of a frog and it's babies were hatching out of its back!! Gross. Think that's where it came from for me.
Those are really cool and have a great effect, hope your mum likes them but I hate watching people use chisseld on epoxy
lol this is so funny watching you realize your mistakes
My daddy always told me “It’s not what tools you have or don’t have that limit a person, it’s their imagination and problem solving skills or lack of”
Well done! Was anybody else expecting a freaky looking bug to crawl out of those holes the whole time?
YUP! It's called Trypophobia...
You need a vacuum pot
Great job
How can I get some banksia nuts? (I’m in USA)
Muito bonito o seu trabalho parabéns
Those look formidable! But is epoxy safe that close to food? As you said: Can it react with salt? Just a thought. Awesome work and fun video!
Really really cool video! I've just finished building a tool chest from almost entirely solid oak (and a small amount of OSB ofc), this is largely been made from your teachings, along with Rob Cosman and Rex Krueger. I'd be really happy to share images of it with you if you're interested and if you are; what's the best method? I'll be sharing it on imgur soon anyway :)
I like these... very unique... on a different note, you're lookin like you could use a hair cut brother!! haha
7:20 Rob teaches Matt the hard way not to eat the last Belvita in the workshop...
*Robosch
Lot of work but I’d say end result was well worth it, nice work Matt
Woo!
Those are the biggest Nutz I've clapped (no pun intended) eyes on for a while and you call them salt and pepper....ROFL :-) Nice work Matt. Can you not use latex gloves? Oh and it that lathe dust collection thing "out of order"
Latex gloves are as weak as piss.
Fucking beautiful
29:05 I let out an audible OOoooooh.
Two grinders on the table and you don’t know which is which? That’s what the white tablecloth is for. Isn’t it?
Lol
My wife says.... But do they actually work? And did your mum like them?
Trypophobia who knows you...
6:32 this gives me anxiety
next time you could use a vacuum chamber to stabilize and fill the voids
Yea definitely. I'll be looking into getting one soon.
bleugh. Those nuts make me irrationally uncomfortable. They look kind of like wasps nests. The finished parts look pretty nice, but the original nuts just got my lizard brain screaming "Kill it with FIRE! Then run away!" through the whole video.
That just reinforced the notion that every living thing in Australia is out to kill me.
Hahaha you and me both! I had a brave face on the whole video but was feeling proper weird throughout.
Not everything in oz will kill you . only the spiders ,snakes,Croce,sharks,jellies,bogans,drop bears , the outback and flies .
@@robert_wylie - And the bushfires, the heat and the excessive drinking.
Turning Tuesday,Wednesday and Thursday?🤣
Please report back re salt in epoxy. Thx 😝
They turned out great. Really unique.
Epoxy is used in boat building so it must be resistant to salt.
Yeah but the salt isn’t mixed in and present during curing.
I have made a number of crush grind mills and they are no as difficult as you have made it. First, cast whole piece in resin to get a solid object. Then turn rough outer shape. Next drill holes, part top from piece & size tenon. Finish outer shape with top connected. Sand finish and assemble. You have roughly succeeded in spite of yourself. Read the instructions that accompany the kit and you'll have an easier time. NOT impressed with this.
trypophobia....
Trypophobia
I feel bad for not liking how they look, but they're just so ugly, but WHY DO I EVEN CARE?!