"Couldn't handle it". It's a pun. Handle. You know, like a mug has a handle, it's... ah, suit yourselves. Thanks to Florian: he's got a lovely channel full of both calm narrated pottery videos, and gentle natural-sounds-only pottery videos!
If I may ask a quick question: At 20:06 you say, that it is always very strange to see other people's pots with your glazes. To me (someone who has absolutely NO knowledge about that subject whatsoever), this heavily implies that every potter / ceramicist has their very own formula for glaze that they take pride in and that is part of their signature (opposed to something off-the-shelf), is that correct? -And would you mind maybe sharing some more detail about variations of glaze and how every potter / ceramicist puts their own spin to it?
I'm really thankful for the acknowledgement at 14:20. The competition between the juvenile part of my brain laughing, and the mature part being awestruck, was worrying me for a second.
Musician here ... immediately recognized Florian's pedal. It's a Yamaha FC-7 expression pedal, used on synthesizers, keyboards, effects etc. Those things are renowned as being built like tanks. Seeing it in daily use in a potter's workshop is the ultimate testament to that.
That's hilarious! I didn't know it was so widely used in the music world. Built like a tank indeed as I've spilt water and clay on it so many times and it's still soldiering on.
It looks like Tom (very blue jeans, sitting on stage left (edit: had left/right confused)) is using the second pedal shown, which is the Yamaha. The editing just puts their voices on opposite B-roll.
Tom Scott plus in a nushell: Tom: "this is terrible. I'm terrible at this. I've ruined it. I'm the worst" Expert: "It's not that bad, I mean, I have seen at least one person do it worse"
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate not just the encouragement Florian offered Tom throughout the day, but most importantly the reassurances. Tom seems to be very resistant to receiving compliments on anything but excellent work. Even so, Florian kept reinforcing the idea that Tom was doing well for an absolute beginner. It was nice to watch. (Edited for a spelling and sentence structure error that was bugging me.)
You know Tom takes pride in his work, perfecting research, video shots, editing, and scripts. A very detailed oriented person. Its a good skill to have, but can also be a curse, because you hate trying something and failing or flailing at the start.
@@coasterb1 I find for myself and others who have trouble with perfectionism that crafts like this, that demand finishing, are really good practice at enjoying the process of finishing more than perfecting so it's lovely to see Tom try some!
I'm torn between yelling "just take the damn complement, you're comparing yourself, a complete beginner, to someone that does this for a living", and thinking "why can't I be this annoyed on my behalf when I can't take compliments?". I enjoyed the video, and needed the mental reminder to be nicer to myself. Definitively a win win!
@@SteveJones313 Somewhat. I'm better at recognizing when I'm being overly judgemental towards myself, and I've had good progress in allowing myself to do what I want, regardless of it "looking good" or not. I am however still struggling with accepting someone else's praise. I don't feel comfortable responding to praise, but I no longer dodge the praise by argue against it. Even if it's not where I want to be, I still feel it's a step in the right direction. I might need another checkup in 2025!
That part at the beginning where you cut the clay in half then stack the two halves on top of each other and do it repeatedly, that is the "Baker's map" in mathematics. It's important in chaos theory and ergodic theory, and it does exactly what Florian said it does, it homogenises the clay so it's "well-mixed". It's fascinating to see a practical application of some obscure mathematics!
How is that concept of "homogenisation" formalized? -- some sort of thing about ensembles being sent to the entire space (or a subspace of the entire space) I'd guess?
@@Erin-ks4jp as with much of mathematics there are a variety of competing ways, but the basic idea is exactly as you say. The any subset of the domain is mapped to the entire domain under the action of the map. Different forms of this mixing then have varying requirements on the “completeness” of the mixing and you can in some cases form a hierarchy of mixing.
@@Erin-ks4jp There is a Wikipedia article on mixing (mathematics) that is relatively easy to understand if you have previous knowledge in mathematics/engineering
I knew that second mug was gonna flop. Know why? Because in learning something new, my experience has always been that the first attempt is better than I dared to hope and the second attempt is always the worst one. Noticing this pattern has helped so much in not feeling like a failure early on. Stick with something and it will get better.
Honestly Tom, I think you're too hard on yourself. Considering you'd never done this before, that was pretty bloody good. Certainly better than I could've done.
Yes, they are all different and weirdly shaped. But they are all functioning mugs and the professional glaze gives them their own life. I hope in a few months Tom can't imagine drinking tea out of anything else.
I like the pun but it always made me anxious when they were putting the handles on and Florian said that one could easily break their mug at that point 🙈
They’re gorgeous! I follow several Instagram accounts selling all sorts of wonky-looking mugs and ceramics, and these wouldn’t be out of place. They’re very chic.
Many minutes of smiling! The second pot is almost always worse because new students are thinking ahead instead of setting themselves to the current task. Florian was so great as a guide too, I like how the pulling knuckle was explained.
The exchange at 9:10 is a classic for anyone starting from scratch under a master of a skill who wants to teach the beginner. Florian is a very good teacher it appears. The resultant mugs look like they'd work well for soup.
To be perfectly honest, all three of those mugs look prefectly fine. And being heavy isn't entirely a bad thing, it makes it harder to accidentally knock over.
Before the video: How can a pottery video be interesting? It's a Tom Scott video so of course I watch it. After the video: I want to build my own pottery studio! That looks soooo relaxing and engaging at the same time.
Pottery is a wonderful hobby - therapeutically relaxing. Plus, it’s fun to use things you’ve made yourself. If you can rent kiln space, your “studio” can be as simple as a stout table in an easily-cleaned area. (It will splatter a lot. Everywhere.) Plus a basic potter’s wheel, unless you choose to use the coil or slab methods of hand-building. After taking a Community Education class, I discovered I prefer the extreme tangibility and slower pace of the coil method. Enjoy 💐
It is insanely rewarding as an experience. I've done it before and a) it's hard, and b) it's so expansive, there's always more to learn, so it's essentially infinite. Also: Florian was on the Great Pottery Throw-Down (reality tv/pottery competition in the UK). It ends up as compelling viewing!
But the good sort of non-fungible stuff. You only get this mug and that’s it. It’s fairly good, but I’ll never make it again because I can’t replicate it.
I feel like Tom really fumbled the bag at the end there @20:00 when hes unwrapping the mugs. Florian is trying so hard to compliment Toms work and instill how precious and full of character/unique Toms mugs are, and all Tom can seem to do is constantly insult the mugs, put himself down, and laugh the entire time at himself. Its very hard to watch. Watch Florians face throughout that exchange, his expressions say it all. Seriously dude, have a shred of pride and gratitude in yourself and your work. Jesus.
17:52 There it is! It's brilliant when you're teaching someone a new skill (or seeing them learn one) when they get to that tipping point and switch from focusing on all they ways they're doing things wrong, to noticing the things that are working. When "I'm rubbish at this" changes to "...Heyyyy!" It's the attitude you should always try to have when you're learning something new. You've never done it before, you're not _supposed_ to be good at it! Every single thing you do, no matter how crappy, is a complete success. There are no failures here!
The heavy, squat mugs would look excellent collecting things on a desk or shelf (like pens, flowers, etc.). Plus the fact that they graduate in height adds an interesting aesthetic element that would be lacking with identical mugs.
It kind of hurt at 20:00, where Tom is ragging on it, and Florian is really proud of his contribution to the creation of it. They're perfectly fine mugs, Tom! ;_;
That's really cool. Seeing Florian, he always makes it looks so easy like, "yeah, I could do that too" even though, ofc it's not. Really fun to see how it is for an actual newbie.
Most people could do rather well at many things if given very specific instructions. What makes these things truly difficult is that a lot of the really important details are things people "get a feel for" with practice but don't consciously realize. In that sense, it's always great to see how much detail the people who teach Tom can go into. That's a skill unto itself.
I have been watching Tom for years now and am so pleased about this video While I am a engineering student, I have a pottery studio in our spare room and love working with ceramics every holiday. I started doing pottery when I was 12 years old and I am still learning new things. Seeing Tom try it out and knowing that people are being educated about this wonderful art form is truly amazing.
Florian’s videos are so educational and inspirational. They’re also so beautifully shot. I’d love to have joined in. I think Tom’s self deprecating humor, intended to build up the image of his guest’s skills, actually backfired in this video. Florian’s body language suggests that he doesn’t agree and his comment about the mugs being a collaborative effort make it clear that his philosophy and values are markedly different. With Florian you see a craftsman and artisan who has not yet attained what he considers perfect while Tom both expects to master the processes demonstrated and yet be an incompetent novice, maybe it’s Tom’s ultra competitive side coming out. Florian also studied under present day masters at his university and during his time in Japan so his concept of what is possible and what excellence means is far beyond what Tom can conceive at the time of filming.
I love how open Tom is to publicly showing himself learning totally unfamiliar skills, whilst also making highly watchable videos at the same time. There's a huge level of video making skill threaded right through this channel.
As a ceramist myself and a huge fan of both these guys, this was an absolute pleasure and treat to watch. Thank you for the wonderful content as always!
I actually really like the mugs Tom made. A nice heavy & wide mug which doesn't hold too much liquid is hard to find. They're normally taller to make the weight due to thin walls. Heavy & wide is nice, because they're much harder to knock over & spill. Tom's mugs look like they'd withstand a lot of uncoordinated arm movements, which is something I make a lot of.
Thanks to Tom and Florian, I realised pottery making is much more of a sophisticated process than I though! Now I really want to get into pottery making sometime!
I feel more and more that Tom Scott content should be required viewing for kids. There is nothing out there that approaches the level of thoughtful adventure. No agenda other than to explore and learn about the world and history. You’re making the world smarter. Bless you Tom.
Having done this myself, I can say it's pretty difficult. My mugs came about a bit better but then I had three days training rather than a couple of hours. Interesting to see that Florian uses a synth expression pedal- though I can see why; they last forever and are designed to respond well to nuanced pressure.
My 4yo saw this video over my shoulder and I got to explain that one guy was teaching another guy how to play with mud. One college class gave me the opportunity to work with clay-- building sculptures, not throwing-- and I absolutely loved it. My kid has a new appreciation for that weird sculpture on our shelf, knowing that it started as a lump of sticky dirt. Such a simple thing, but ideas are powerful; maybe this 4yo will pursue pottery.
Idk about you but I think there's something really poetic about the fact that two people that have absolutely nothing in common with each other, on opposite sides of the world, do the exact same thing when they get their hands on a bit of blu-tack!
I think I get why I love videos like this so much. I really like it when people walk through how they do things they're good at especially when the product is something simple and often overlooked like a mug. Also the clay is indeed hypnotizing.
Watching Tom be speechless at how the clay moves is relatable. Also pulling handles is an art. When I was studying ceramics undergrad, i spent hours doing it and i swear it was harder than throwing. I love the act of throwing. I dont really care about stuff once its off the wheel. I hate handles and trimming and glazing thrown pots, and im not a fan of the resultant pots, but the act of throwing itself is just viscerally enjoyable to me still.
It was crazy how much you could see how much time Florian must have put into developing this skill - even from the look of the blocks at the beginning. And what a great host Florian was - calm and great at giving those little confidence boosts.
I like the way Florian is appreciating the material and the end result, even though its not perfect. The effort going into the proces, counts as much as the end result... And beeing proud of your dedication...
I watch Florian's YT channel all the time and seeing him give a making lesson to Tom was great. The little trio of mugs in different glazes was a nice touch.
When we were watching this video, my husband remarked that he has always wanted to learn how to use a pottery wheel. Tonight we are starting a 8 week class at the local community college together. Thanks for inspiring us to learn something new!
Honestly I think I’m beginning to like this channel more to an the other. I was skeptical at first, but I love it all. Keep coming with just the trying different things. I really enjoyed learning how to sculpt and throw clay and I’m going to sign up for a class now. Thanks, Tom.
Two weeks ago you made me want to become a pop music producer, this week you make me want to abandon all worldly possessions and live in a hut and make pottery all day. What's next?
For me it was a nice trip down the memory lane. In 6th and 7th grade of my art elementary school we did quite a lot of pottery - not just mugs, but statues, architecture and other things as well - I still have my three story high fairy tale castle tower, complete with a landing pad for dragons and working gutters :-D. I especially loved the wheel, despite we needed to turn it the old way, using our legs. Fun fact - you can't glaze the bottom, because it melts a bit in the kiln and the pottery would get stuck. Also, I don't know about glaze colors here, but our glazes had different color when applying and after stoving. We needed to use samples to find the right color. Some colors were glossy, some mat.
In order to glaze the bottom you need to put your work on holders that have quite sharp points that are too small at the tips for the glaze to stick firmly to.
Florian is such a good teacher, and I like Scott's wonky mugs! A lot of people prefer those kind of organic shapes. It would be awesome if Tom kept making ceramics, I'd love to see what he could make after a year of doing it as a hobby.
Florian and Great Pottery Throw Down inspired me to take pottery classes. I love it. It’s very meditative, and you have to have a really zen approach because sometimes, stuff just explodes in the kiln and there’s nothing you can do about it.
I love this video. I used to be very into ceramics with my dad, actually every single plate, bowl, and cup that we use was handmade by us. I love the nostalgic hit I got while watching this... the good old times. Thanks Tom! Also nice pun.
I genuinely didn't have any interest or appreciation for pottery and tend to just buy Tesco own brand 4 cups for £4 or whatever. I'm now 100% considering getting some proper mugs that have been a labour of love rather than mass produced and cheap
I've watched quite a few of the plus channel videos while working on some tasks today and the best part about them is observing the joy and competence of the many teachers Tom gets to learn all these things form. What a delight
can't wait for museums in 2000 years to have sections on the "Tom Scott Pottery Culture", now you'll just need to do some flint knapping and build your own columns and you'll be your own one-man ancient civilization
Hats off to your production team for arranging this video shoot. I cannot imagine anyone better than Florian Gadsby from whom to take a pottery throwing lección, with his calm demeanor and crystal clear instruction.
I really enjoy these sorts of videos; I do wish you weren't so hard on yourself all the time. You are a beginner learning a new thing; mastery is not the expectation. Be proud of what you have managed to learn in a relatively short stretch of time!
How lovely to see an old craft like that being highlighted for the skill it requires to produce what most people just take for granted as an everyday object. Florian is a true master of his trade and an excellent teacher.
There is something particularly magical about watching someone shape clay. They apply their hands in strange positions and the earth in their hands bends to their will. They give form, command walls to rise and fall, and then give purpose and life to a new creation. Some much wonder is packed into this creation who's future is just to hold other things; you can't understand how amazing it is until you see it done.
It just dawned on me that the reason Tom's videos are dropping an hour late now is because I live somewhere that observes daylight savings time. So, in fact, he's not late. I'm early.
"Couldn't handle it". It's a pun. Handle. You know, like a mug has a handle, it's... ah, suit yourselves. Thanks to Florian: he's got a lovely channel full of both calm narrated pottery videos, and gentle natural-sounds-only pottery videos!
I see what u did there...
I appreciate it!
That title alone got me here. So good haha
great pun that
Well, you take your chances, you take your lumps.
It was great showing you how to make pots! May those mugs bring you many nice cups of tea.
Florian open the door
oh hey fancy seeing you here
"And it matches the mug"
that's one polite way to say "both the handle and the mug are the same level of bad" =D
Such a good master! You have fans in Colombia :D
If I may ask a quick question: At 20:06 you say, that it is always very strange to see other people's pots with your glazes. To me (someone who has absolutely NO knowledge about that subject whatsoever), this heavily implies that every potter / ceramicist has their very own formula for glaze that they take pride in and that is part of their signature (opposed to something off-the-shelf), is that correct? -And would you mind maybe sharing some more detail about variations of glaze and how every potter / ceramicist puts their own spin to it?
Tom: Oh, it's like stretching taffy!
Florian's eyes: That's not what we usually compare it to but I appreciate why you went that direction.
phrasing
What would they normally compare it to?
@@rachelcookie321 lmao
@@Vfulncchl what?
@@rachelcookie321 You are not old enough is you have to ask.
I'm really thankful for the acknowledgement at 14:20. The competition between the juvenile part of my brain laughing, and the mature part being awestruck, was worrying me for a second.
I wonder how much self-control from Tom it took to resist commenting on it.
Same
im glad someone mentioned it. my mind went to all sorts of places
I had exactly the same feeling. Then I started cackling
glad it wasn't just us lmao
Musician here ... immediately recognized Florian's pedal. It's a Yamaha FC-7 expression pedal, used on synthesizers, keyboards, effects etc. Those things are renowned as being built like tanks. Seeing it in daily use in a potter's workshop is the ultimate testament to that.
It's expression pedal?. I did not notice that?
That's hilarious! I didn't know it was so widely used in the music world. Built like a tank indeed as I've spilt water and clay on it so many times and it's still soldiering on.
I noticed that too!
It looks like Tom (very blue jeans, sitting on stage left (edit: had left/right confused)) is using the second pedal shown, which is the Yamaha. The editing just puts their voices on opposite B-roll.
I am always amazed at music people's ability to know music things.
Tom Scott plus in a nushell:
Tom: "this is terrible. I'm terrible at this. I've ruined it. I'm the worst"
Expert: "It's not that bad, I mean, I have seen at least one person do it worse"
14:20
*deep breaths*
"I'm an adult. I'm an adult. I will not laugh at silly things. I'm an adult"
I was not able to restrain my giggles.
I am not an adult
nah, F that, be an adult, laugh at silly things, enjoy them, we don't get enough of that in our lives, its good for you!
Same lmao
I'm not an adult. I'm not an adult. I will laugh at silly things. I'm not an adult - There! That's better!
I appreciate the “we know how ridiculous this looks”
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate not just the encouragement Florian offered Tom throughout the day, but most importantly the reassurances. Tom seems to be very resistant to receiving compliments on anything but excellent work. Even so, Florian kept reinforcing the idea that Tom was doing well for an absolute beginner. It was nice to watch.
(Edited for a spelling and sentence structure error that was bugging me.)
It can be discouraging when your “taste” is far more developed than your skill. Being conscious of this disparity can help.
I was wholly impressed with how Tom (being a total beginner newbie) was handling the task of throwing a ceramic piece!
resistant to receiving compliments is just being British
You know Tom takes pride in his work, perfecting research, video shots, editing, and scripts. A very detailed oriented person. Its a good skill to have, but can also be a curse, because you hate trying something and failing or flailing at the start.
@@coasterb1 I find for myself and others who have trouble with perfectionism that crafts like this, that demand finishing, are really good practice at enjoying the process of finishing more than perfecting so it's lovely to see Tom try some!
14:16 "Yes, we know how ridiculous this looks". Tom Scott knows the UA-cam community really well. ;)
Every single human being who watched this cracked a smile at that part.
I'm torn between yelling "just take the damn complement, you're comparing yourself, a complete beginner, to someone that does this for a living", and thinking "why can't I be this annoyed on my behalf when I can't take compliments?".
I enjoyed the video, and needed the mental reminder to be nicer to myself. Definitively a win win!
@@samarnadra you should check out the song "talk to a friend" by Rain City Drive.
It's been a year. Have you got any better at receiving compliments?
@@SteveJones313 Somewhat.
I'm better at recognizing when I'm being overly judgemental towards myself, and I've had good progress in allowing myself to do what I want, regardless of it "looking good" or not. I am however still struggling with accepting someone else's praise. I don't feel comfortable responding to praise, but I no longer dodge the praise by argue against it. Even if it's not where I want to be, I still feel it's a step in the right direction.
I might need another checkup in 2025!
That part at the beginning where you cut the clay in half then stack the two halves on top of each other and do it repeatedly, that is the "Baker's map" in mathematics. It's important in chaos theory and ergodic theory, and it does exactly what Florian said it does, it homogenises the clay so it's "well-mixed". It's fascinating to see a practical application of some obscure mathematics!
How is that concept of "homogenisation" formalized? -- some sort of thing about ensembles being sent to the entire space (or a subspace of the entire space) I'd guess?
It also makes an *mmensely* satisfying slap noise.
@@Erin-ks4jp as with much of mathematics there are a variety of competing ways, but the basic idea is exactly as you say. The any subset of the domain is mapped to the entire domain under the action of the map. Different forms of this mixing then have varying requirements on the “completeness” of the mixing and you can in some cases form a hierarchy of mixing.
@@Erin-ks4jp There is a Wikipedia article on mixing (mathematics) that is relatively easy to understand if you have previous knowledge in mathematics/engineering
@@manuelbonet
Wikipedia articles about mathematical subjects are generally _not_ easy to read.
I knew that second mug was gonna flop. Know why? Because in learning something new, my experience has always been that the first attempt is better than I dared to hope and the second attempt is always the worst one. Noticing this pattern has helped so much in not feeling like a failure early on. Stick with something and it will get better.
You always tend to overthink things the second time.
Thanks for that! I've started noticing that trend in myself but I hadn't put it to words yet.
I get that as well
This is actually unbelievably helpful as advixe
Just skip the second attempt
That last mug - Tom has successfully mastered making a pottery version of those plastic "mugs" you get on top of Thermos flasks!
And it's thick enough that it'll insulate like an actual Thermos!
Yes! That's exactly what it looks like! 😆
Thick and stout, too. Military strength. Able to withstand any nuclear calamity.
@@simpletongeek doubles as a solid blunt instrument as well.
I love that this channel is just Tom Scott learning assorted esoteric skills
like riding a bicycle
Not sure singing or bicycling is particularly esoteric, but other than those and the games you’re right.
@@ragnkja what about parkour and piloting a plane blindfolded?
That's not what esoteric means
Can't wait for the Tarot reading or pagan ritual episode, those are my favorite esoteric skills
Honestly Tom, I think you're too hard on yourself. Considering you'd never done this before, that was pretty bloody good. Certainly better than I could've done.
I was impressed how quickly Tom managed to center the clay on the wheel
this entire channel is tom being too hard on himself while the experts try to tell him that hes actually surprisingly good
Tom of all trades, expert of none.
It's his shtick
Yes, they are all different and weirdly shaped. But they are all functioning mugs and the professional glaze gives them their own life. I hope in a few months Tom can't imagine drinking tea out of anything else.
Always appreciate a good pun in a video title.
Same
I like the pun but it always made me anxious when they were putting the handles on and Florian said that one could easily break their mug at that point 🙈
NGL I actually really like Tom's chunky mugs, they look very stylish
Exactly, these look very unique. I would like to be able to make something like that (but lighter, I prefer lighter cups).
They're perfect for dipping stuff!
They’re gorgeous! I follow several Instagram accounts selling all sorts of wonky-looking mugs and ceramics, and these wouldn’t be out of place. They’re very chic.
Many minutes of smiling! The second pot is almost always worse because new students are thinking ahead instead of setting themselves to the current task. Florian was so great as a guide too, I like how the pulling knuckle was explained.
"Like stretching taffy." Not where my mind was going, but I guess so.
"stretching taffy" is gonna be my new euphemism for it from now on ;)
A very familiar motion for a significant portion of the audience.
a big horse
a gigantic horse c-
I want a partner that does pottery now. That must be interresting.
The exchange at 9:10 is a classic for anyone starting from scratch under a master of a skill who wants to teach the beginner. Florian is a very good teacher it appears.
The resultant mugs look like they'd work well for soup.
That "everyone's started there" hit me so good. His matter-of-factly tone just made it so much better.
To be perfectly honest, all three of those mugs look prefectly fine.
And being heavy isn't entirely a bad thing, it makes it harder to accidentally knock over.
Before the video: How can a pottery video be interesting?
It's a Tom Scott video so of course I watch it.
After the video: I want to build my own pottery studio!
That looks soooo relaxing and engaging at the same time.
Pottery is a wonderful hobby - therapeutically relaxing. Plus, it’s fun to use things you’ve made yourself.
If you can rent kiln space, your “studio” can be as simple as a stout table in an easily-cleaned area. (It will splatter a lot. Everywhere.) Plus a basic potter’s wheel, unless you choose to use the coil or slab methods of hand-building. After taking a Community Education class, I discovered I prefer the extreme tangibility and slower pace of the coil method.
Enjoy 💐
It is insanely rewarding as an experience. I've done it before and a) it's hard, and b) it's so expansive, there's always more to learn, so it's essentially infinite.
Also: Florian was on the Great Pottery Throw-Down (reality tv/pottery competition in the UK). It ends up as compelling viewing!
10 things I didn't expect to see this week:
number 3, Tom Scott milking a lump of clay
Okay ill bite what are the others
@@pabloemiliorui2281 One from me was my roommate saying on a phone call to an old friend:
“You can’t bring Freud into aeronautical engineering!”
"And it matches the mug"
that's one polite way to say "both the handle and the mug are the same level of bad" =D
Is it just me, or does it have the same energy as "Hey, Brad's score in still on there!"?
Or simply that they’re the same style. Florian’s thin, delicate handles would have looked out of place in Tom’s much heavier mugs.
I would say same level of sturdiness. Everyone starts somewhere.
tom's mugs have a kind of charm to them, since they are not identical, they are unique.
I dont know how well theyd do for a drink, but they do look more "unique" instead of bad. Especially with that glaze, theyd be great for a cup of soup
They are "non fungible"
But the good sort of non-fungible stuff. You only get this mug and that’s it. It’s fairly good, but I’ll never make it again because I can’t replicate it.
I feel like Tom really fumbled the bag at the end there @20:00 when hes unwrapping the mugs. Florian is trying so hard to compliment Toms work and instill how precious and full of character/unique Toms mugs are, and all Tom can seem to do is constantly insult the mugs, put himself down, and laugh the entire time at himself. Its very hard to watch. Watch Florians face throughout that exchange, his expressions say it all. Seriously dude, have a shred of pride and gratitude in yourself and your work. Jesus.
My exact thoughts
17:52 There it is!
It's brilliant when you're teaching someone a new skill (or seeing them learn one) when they get to that tipping point and switch from focusing on all they ways they're doing things wrong, to noticing the things that are working. When "I'm rubbish at this" changes to "...Heyyyy!"
It's the attitude you should always try to have when you're learning something new. You've never done it before, you're not _supposed_ to be good at it! Every single thing you do, no matter how crappy, is a complete success. There are no failures here!
The heavy, squat mugs would look excellent collecting things on a desk or shelf (like pens, flowers, etc.). Plus the fact that they graduate in height adds an interesting aesthetic element that would be lacking with identical mugs.
The goldilocks set, catering to all your beverage needs :)
It kind of hurt at 20:00, where Tom is ragging on it, and Florian is really proud of his contribution to the creation of it. They're perfectly fine mugs, Tom! ;_;
That's really cool. Seeing Florian, he always makes it looks so easy like, "yeah, I could do that too" even though, ofc it's not. Really fun to see how it is for an actual newbie.
I might be able to make something about as good as Tom’s mugs.
Most people could do rather well at many things if given very specific instructions. What makes these things truly difficult is that a lot of the really important details are things people "get a feel for" with practice but don't consciously realize.
In that sense, it's always great to see how much detail the people who teach Tom can go into. That's a skill unto itself.
I have been watching Tom for years now and am so pleased about this video
While I am a engineering student, I have a pottery studio in our spare room and love working with ceramics every holiday. I started doing pottery when I was 12 years old and I am still learning new things. Seeing Tom try it out and knowing that people are being educated about this wonderful art form is truly amazing.
Florian’s videos are so educational and inspirational. They’re also so beautifully shot. I’d love to have joined in.
I think Tom’s self deprecating humor, intended to build up the image of his guest’s skills, actually backfired in this video. Florian’s body language suggests that he doesn’t agree and his comment about the mugs being a collaborative effort make it clear that his philosophy and values are markedly different. With Florian you see a craftsman and artisan who has not yet attained what he considers perfect while Tom both expects to master the processes demonstrated and yet be an incompetent novice, maybe it’s Tom’s ultra competitive side coming out. Florian also studied under present day masters at his university and during his time in Japan so his concept of what is possible and what excellence means is far beyond what Tom can conceive at the time of filming.
Tom could create the perfect cup, and he'd still think it's not great. Tom apparently tends to downplay his achievements a lot.
i have no idea what youre talking about, they're just mugs bro
@@machinegunlamentThis person isn't talking about the mugs, they're talking about the interaction between Tom and Florian.
i really enjoy this channel. I like your original channel, but there is a sort of un-edited charm to these videos that I enjoy a lot. Thanks tom
while at the same time recognizing the amount of actual editing that goes into these, I agree with the feeling
I love how open Tom is to publicly showing himself learning totally unfamiliar skills, whilst also making highly watchable videos at the same time. There's a huge level of video making skill threaded right through this channel.
As a ceramist myself and a huge fan of both these guys, this was an absolute pleasure and treat to watch. Thank you for the wonderful content as always!
One of my middle names is Florian and I love pottery, so I'm absolutely ecstatic about finding another Florian who does pottery! 💚
Seeing Tom learn, make mistakes, and learn from his mistakes is incredibly satisfying
I actually really like the mugs Tom made. A nice heavy & wide mug which doesn't hold too much liquid is hard to find. They're normally taller to make the weight due to thin walls.
Heavy & wide is nice, because they're much harder to knock over & spill. Tom's mugs look like they'd withstand a lot of uncoordinated arm movements, which is something I make a lot of.
This makes me want to try pottery instead of just doing it for a class in school
"Report to the workshop of Florian Gadsby" is a fantastic sentence.
Thanks to Tom and Florian, I realised pottery making is much more of a sophisticated process than I though! Now I really want to get into pottery making sometime!
my surname is potter and this video gave me a better appreciation for my distant relatives
@@ThePurpleCheesecakeZebra How many Harry Potter jokes do you get per day?
We need a compilation of Tom’s weird sounds 🎵
AGREED.
5:08 please one of them haha
@@marinbilic2893 AGREED the naywwh
I feel more and more that Tom Scott content should be required viewing for kids. There is nothing out there that approaches the level of thoughtful adventure. No agenda other than to explore and learn about the world and history. You’re making the world smarter. Bless you Tom.
All we need now is someone to edit themselves in as a ghost behind Tom
😱
We were all thinking it.
is this a reference to something?
@@someone8689 The Movie Ghost, famous scene, you'll know when you see it
Please yes.
well Florian seems like a delightful human
from the title, I was truly expecting one to get scrapped at the handling stage
Having done this myself, I can say it's pretty difficult. My mugs came about a bit better but then I had three days training rather than a couple of hours. Interesting to see that Florian uses a synth expression pedal- though I can see why; they last forever and are designed to respond well to nuanced pressure.
My 4yo saw this video over my shoulder and I got to explain that one guy was teaching another guy how to play with mud. One college class gave me the opportunity to work with clay-- building sculptures, not throwing-- and I absolutely loved it. My kid has a new appreciation for that weird sculpture on our shelf, knowing that it started as a lump of sticky dirt. Such a simple thing, but ideas are powerful; maybe this 4yo will pursue pottery.
Idk about you but I think there's something really poetic about the fact that two people that have absolutely nothing in common with each other, on opposite sides of the world, do the exact same thing when they get their hands on a bit of blu-tack!
I like how each of Tom’s successful mugs is a little taller than the last. Just a subtle way to show that he’s improving quickly.
I've been a fan of both Florian and Tom separately. I've was so delighted to watch this video. Amazing to see both amazing people work together!
I think I get why I love videos like this so much. I really like it when people walk through how they do things they're good at especially when the product is something simple and often overlooked like a mug. Also the clay is indeed hypnotizing.
Watching Tom be speechless at how the clay moves is relatable. Also pulling handles is an art. When I was studying ceramics undergrad, i spent hours doing it and i swear it was harder than throwing.
I love the act of throwing. I dont really care about stuff once its off the wheel. I hate handles and trimming and glazing thrown pots, and im not a fan of the resultant pots, but the act of throwing itself is just viscerally enjoyable to me still.
It was crazy how much you could see how much time Florian must have put into developing this skill - even from the look of the blocks at the beginning. And what a great host Florian was - calm and great at giving those little confidence boosts.
The mental images of parts of this video are making my mind reveal a dark side I almost never knew about. Dear God!
It’s always great to see people who’s passionate in their craft.
Tom is such a gift to society - Love these videos!
I like the way Florian is appreciating the material and the end result, even though its not perfect. The effort going into the proces, counts as much as the end result... And beeing proud of your dedication...
I watch Florian's YT channel all the time and seeing him give a making lesson to Tom was great.
The little trio of mugs in different glazes was a nice touch.
I don't think I've ever come to appreciate working with ceramics as much as this. Dude's got magic hands.
I have never laughed this hard because of a notification. I love you, Tom
When we were watching this video, my husband remarked that he has always wanted to learn how to use a pottery wheel. Tonight we are starting a 8 week class at the local community college together. Thanks for inspiring us to learn something new!
i immediately guessed that Tom couldnt form the handle of the cup - great pun there
Great video, Florian has so much patience and is very chilled. I honestly wouldn't be able to contain myself at the handle part 🤣😂🤣😂❤
I've been watching Florian for a long time now, so fun to see you try to figure this all out!
5:10 I want that sound as my text message alert.
do it
yes
13:53 "That's like stretching toffee". Not really what I got in my head 😂
Florian's mugs 18:29 are so smooth and satisfying to look at!
Honestly I think I’m beginning to like this channel more to an the other. I was skeptical at first, but I love it all. Keep coming with just the trying different things. I really enjoyed learning how to sculpt and throw clay and I’m going to sign up for a class now. Thanks, Tom.
Two weeks ago you made me want to become a pop music producer, this week you make me want to abandon all worldly possessions and live in a hut and make pottery all day.
What's next?
Sounds like you need to be creative.
ABXGDGVDV NO ACTUALLY THOUGH-
Watching Tom make his cave pots in contrast with Florian’s work really makes you appreciate the art
3:00 Unnecessary point of order, but if you do that 20 times there should be 2^20 layers or 1024 x 1024 ~ 1 million layers, not 10 million
Whoever does the captions for these videos: you're amazing.
Finally I get to watch a Tom Scott video the second it was uploaded!
Same✋
OMG yes I love Florian Gadsby
For me it was a nice trip down the memory lane. In 6th and 7th grade of my art elementary school we did quite a lot of pottery - not just mugs, but statues, architecture and other things as well - I still have my three story high fairy tale castle tower, complete with a landing pad for dragons and working gutters :-D. I especially loved the wheel, despite we needed to turn it the old way, using our legs.
Fun fact - you can't glaze the bottom, because it melts a bit in the kiln and the pottery would get stuck. Also, I don't know about glaze colors here, but our glazes had different color when applying and after stoving. We needed to use samples to find the right color. Some colors were glossy, some mat.
In order to glaze the bottom you need to put your work on holders that have quite sharp points that are too small at the tips for the glaze to stick firmly to.
my 2 favourite youtubers collaborating??!!! this is the best day of my life
oh I'm infinitely excited, I have watched so many Florian gadsby videos, this is such a treat
Florian is such a good teacher, and I like Scott's wonky mugs! A lot of people prefer those kind of organic shapes. It would be awesome if Tom kept making ceramics, I'd love to see what he could make after a year of doing it as a hobby.
I didn't even watch the video I'm just here to comment on how good that title is.
Florian and Great Pottery Throw Down inspired me to take pottery classes. I love it. It’s very meditative, and you have to have a really zen approach because sometimes, stuff just explodes in the kiln and there’s nothing you can do about it.
I love this video. I used to be very into ceramics with my dad, actually every single plate, bowl, and cup that we use was handmade by us. I love the nostalgic hit I got while watching this... the good old times.
Thanks Tom!
Also nice pun.
I've been following Florian for just over a year (I'm an artist) and this is very much like his normal videos. So informative and relaxed.
I genuinely didn't have any interest or appreciation for pottery and tend to just buy Tesco own brand 4 cups for £4 or whatever. I'm now 100% considering getting some proper mugs that have been a labour of love rather than mass produced and cheap
Honestly the more handmade looking style of toms mugs look so good like if a store was selling those I’d probably buy them
Wow that pun in the title really got me confused. Greetings from germany
I've watched quite a few of the plus channel videos while working on some tasks today and the best part about them is observing the joy and competence of the many teachers Tom gets to learn all these things form. What a delight
can't wait for museums in 2000 years to have sections on the "Tom Scott Pottery Culture", now you'll just need to do some flint knapping and build your own columns and you'll be your own one-man ancient civilization
It shouldn't be interesting to watch Tom and Florian Gadsby make a mug and handle clay, but.. it is! And it's relaxing too!
I had to chuckle when i read the notification. Great title:D
Hats off to your production team for arranging this video shoot. I cannot imagine anyone better than Florian Gadsby from whom to take a pottery throwing lección, with his calm demeanor and crystal clear instruction.
13:40 if somebody could add a censor blur over this I’d appreciate it
I knew I wasn’t the only one
It even has a bellend!
I really enjoy these sorts of videos; I do wish you weren't so hard on yourself all the time. You are a beginner learning a new thing; mastery is not the expectation. Be proud of what you have managed to learn in a relatively short stretch of time!
I like the idea of him only making this video for the title joke
How lovely to see an old craft like that being highlighted for the skill it requires to produce what most people just take for granted as an everyday object. Florian is a true master of his trade and an excellent teacher.
“Yes, we know how ridiculous this looks” 😂.
I have always wanted to do pottery. Would love to have a set of mugs that I made.
My two favourite youtubers! I love this.
Around 14 minutes into this video, I realized I still have a really childish sense of humor XD
There is something particularly magical about watching someone shape clay. They apply their hands in strange positions and the earth in their hands bends to their will. They give form, command walls to rise and fall, and then give purpose and life to a new creation. Some much wonder is packed into this creation who's future is just to hold other things; you can't understand how amazing it is until you see it done.
It just dawned on me that the reason Tom's videos are dropping an hour late now is because I live somewhere that observes daylight savings time. So, in fact, he's not late. I'm early.
It'll probably be back to normal in around a week or so when us Brits switch from GMT to British Summer Time.
Thanks Dubya!