Right, tye actual innards. I will say having used this auger its something that takes a bit to get comfortable with and we never unloaded on the go. At least after one of workers banged it up then proceeded to try to cut it off.
Nice video. Dont forget to point out that if you are unloading on the go and end up in a washout, the Gleaner swivel is the only unloader system that can "escape" the cart. With a turret you need to be quick on the brakes, and need to back up the combine and the cart at the same time to get separated. That and many other reasons make it the king of rough terrain.
rborneman I wish Agco would build the auger like New Holland did, their auger can unload from cradle to full out, the gleaner can only unload full out, or it breaks
IDK, I like the simplicity of no gearboxes. The NH TR system was better than turret systems but it still had a gearbox, I still prefer the Gleaner swivel just as it is. The Gleaner doesnt have to be completely out, but it helps. on our L2 with the short "standard" auger, we do have to bump it up some to dump on high sided trucks.
rborneman There is no gear box on the TR combine, other than a TR 70. I had an L3 M2 and you can't move that auger much or it will bust the drive, and if somebody accidentally starts the auger while it's in the cradle it's a monumental problem. The New Holland has another short shaft with a knuckle so it can unload even in the cradle and all the way out, which we've already had to unload into an auger and it worked great leaving it in the saddle to empty the tank
We had 4 Gleaners in the past. Three had the big V8 Deutz air cooled , the last one I owned had the little 8.3 Cummins . Overall in 25 years of running them, we liked the clean grain sample, and the fuel efficiency of the Deutz air cooled engines. However, we always swathed our wheat into a 50 foot swath. The Gleaner just couldn’t spread it that far. About 35 feet was the max spread , most of it to the left side. Although they could really cover ground when they were running, we had a lot of break downs over the years. When we lost our dealer in our area, we transitioned to Cr 960 and later to a CR 8090 New Holland combines. Never looked back. The NH doesn’t do the hopper job the Gleaner did, but they have been relatively trouble free . We have been using New Holland combines since 2006. Love them!😊
We have a had 3 gleaner combines loved them all easy to fixes nearly no losses out the back less than 1/4 bushels loss nobody around use with other colors can come close to that when get 0 dockage at the local elevator u set it right and Ave the right guy in the set it the best machine u will every run
I was born and raised in a country area ........until I was 7 years old. Long story short, my trade is in quality engineering and advanced mechanical problem solving and root cause analysis. I do not understand farming, but I do understand machines. Based on what I've seen in this video, we need more of this! This is how things are supposed to be made, to last period. Simple efficient designs will always be more reliable, robots and repeatable for many years. I am speaking blindly about this and now will have to go research their RMPPM against competitors as well.
I cut with a s680 deere this fall in the same conditions in the same fields. He ran a 35 ft. macdon and I had a 40 ft. 9255. The S88 was abought 15% better in capacity in the clean beans, but when we it the tough conditions it was no contest, after he almost plugged the rotor several times he pulled out and got back in the clean beans. He couldn't believe how I could still run 4 mph and never look back. He admitted that the Gleaner kicked the deere's ass.
Gleanerman the 680 driver must have not known how to operate a harvester. I have run my old JD 9760 alongside a S77 and S78 for 3 years at a contracting job and the Gleaners can't touch the JD in any crop or conditions. In Australia we will sometimes harvest in 40 degrees Celsius and in this weather the small elevator blocks before you can load the rotor up to full capacity.
I grew up in logging country where the KISS principles rule. Easy to fix. Easy to maintain. Cost effective and reliable. First time I saw a big silver Gleaner combine I said what is that? After a closer look, I can’t believe anyone buys the other ones. Marketing over logic but glad to see them approaching 100 years!
Pound for pound you can't beat a Gleaner for your money, smart design, belts instead of hydro drives use much less energy and you know everything is turning at the proper speed with belts as long as they aren't slipping. Relatively easy to work on as well. And I do love the way they look.
Maintenance is super nice both for the combine and the headers, my grandfather and I were able to partly disassemble the left side of the soybean header and change the straps and reassemble it in 1h30, it would have been even faster if it wasn’t the first time we did that
A proven track record. Production not problems. Full weight of customer support lines. High grain recovery efficiency percentages and fuel economies. From field to grainery, the most cost effective machines in the business.
Is there a way to make the head centered to the combine? We’re looking to switch our combine and our main concern is how the grain cart won’t be able to follow the combine tracks since the head isn’t centered. I heard there was a “ridge till kit” but we couldn’t find anything on the internet.
The feeder is offset so the header is also offset to compensate so I would recommend painting white lines on the header to know where the feeder hole is lined up
Not bad, door swings down underneath gives you full access. All and all probably the easiest to work on compared to watching my friends with red or green. We use to run 9500/9600 and switch to silver. In the late 90s
The spindle breaks right under the flange they weld on for the tie rods. It has been on their combines as long as I remember they only increased its size over the years . They have a new design for next year it looks like the mudhog rear end
Yes they never heard of it doing that before. I know of two others that did that this fall. I think cleaner should stand the cost of replacing rear axles then again I hit my head this morning
Kind of hard to take that thing into the shop every time you need it repaired. I guess you send mechanics out to farms if the farmer cannot fix it himself.
Miss leading when comparing feederhouse widths. Gleaner is the smallest at 39 inches, but when the material hits the competitors 30" rotor, it really has the entire circumference of the 30" rotor (94 square inches) to be spread around and fed through.. You guys try and do it all with 39". Plus, Gleaner must send the cut material thru two feeder chains and a transition to get to the rotor, whereas competition feeds with one chain.; Lastly, the feeder house is off set in a gleaner, resulting in uneven material feeding into the feederhouse, where the chains must spread the material more even. 40 year old design.
Mark Bell yes an excellent 40 year old design. Remember axial designs are even older, and about time they get replaced, right? Plus I don't ever have to replace cones and elephant ears.
Id rather have a gleaner than a deere. I worked as a mechanic at a deere dealership and it was not uncommon to see bearing failure of the deere rotory do to the feed design.
wonder how many bearing failures cause John Deere fires every year plus most Deere's have all that plastic shit once she is on fire cunts pretty much fucked where as the Gleaner's are metal less likely to have a run away fire
...my neighbors used to rag on me about that....until they took their red machine out, shelled a field of corn early...and then had the bright idea of double discing the field and planting wheat into it. The field came up pretty solid with corn....and their faces were a bit red as well. The funniest thing about the whole situation was when a local agronomist (Yeah, he really is a qualified agronomist!) stopped and asked them how they were going to solve the problem...and with a straight face they looked at him and said...."wait for a frost"......
Because the design is outdated and hard to scale for anything above a class 7 it’s a wonder that agco keeps them around when even Deere is going to a twin rotor machine lol not nocking single rotor machines but it pretty obvious that transverse rotor is a bad design.
@@farmyardfab so you're saying with a near million dollar machine in sub $4 corn, you can launder money faster? And if i need to harvest seed, most of it won't germinate because its all been destroyed on the way through? 😉
@@farmyardfab typed out a lengthy response about new holland machines......and then remembered.......is there a difference between the cnh machines now? Or just color? There are a few red ones around, the only NH i can think of local got turned back in after lease was up. Nothing wrong with them, i imagine. Deere seems to have our market sowed up even with all their shortcomings, with a few morons throwing what i can only assume is dirty money at claas and cat dealers for million dollar machines.
@@farmyardfab my father likes to watch the trains go by loaded with new tractors and harvestors, either a load of green, or red and blue machines mixed together. No, Gleaners, not for 40 years. They ruled this area, back then. Deutz air cooled Zippos were the death knell, along with incredibly poor management from the krauts, and then agco doesn't even seem to remember they sell Gleaner.
Bring a Gleaner down here to Mississippi and put it in some hybrid rice with a 40 foot header and then I’ll be impressed. Until then I’ll keep my opinion that since you don’t see Gleaners cutting rice they must not be all that great of a machine.
@@boomerang379 thats rice. Gleaners have been mainly a wheat and oats harvester since gleaner ever became a known name. Come to the midwest and youll still see old c2, g, L2, and n series gleaners running in wheat fields. If the farmer hatvests his own crop 4 out 5 combines itll be a ol gleaner.
Good to see someone is considering the guy who has to work on it.
Right, tye actual innards. I will say having used this auger its something that takes a bit to get comfortable with and we never unloaded on the go. At least after one of workers banged it up then proceeded to try to cut it off.
Nice video. Dont forget to point out that if you are unloading on the go and end up in a washout, the Gleaner swivel is the only unloader system that can "escape" the cart. With a turret you need to be quick on the brakes, and need to back up the combine and the cart at the same time to get separated.
That and many other reasons make it the king of rough terrain.
rborneman I wish Agco would build the auger like New Holland did, their auger can unload from cradle to full out, the gleaner can only unload full out, or it breaks
IDK, I like the simplicity of no gearboxes. The NH TR system was better than turret systems but it still had a gearbox, I still prefer the Gleaner swivel just as it is.
The Gleaner doesnt have to be completely out, but it helps. on our L2 with the short "standard" auger, we do have to bump it up some to dump on high sided trucks.
rborneman There is no gear box on the TR combine, other than a TR 70. I had an L3 M2 and you can't move that auger much or it will bust the drive, and if somebody accidentally starts the auger while it's in the cradle it's a monumental problem. The New Holland has another short shaft with a knuckle so it can unload even in the cradle and all the way out, which we've already had to unload into an auger and it worked great leaving it in the saddle to empty the tank
RJ 1999 there is a lockout switch that prevents the auger from running if its not out far enough.
We had 4 Gleaners in the past. Three had the big V8 Deutz air cooled , the last one I owned had the little 8.3 Cummins . Overall in 25 years of running them, we liked the clean grain sample, and the fuel efficiency of the Deutz air cooled engines. However, we always swathed our wheat into a 50 foot swath. The Gleaner just couldn’t spread it that far. About 35 feet was the max spread , most of it to the left side. Although they could really cover ground when they were running, we had a lot of break downs over the years. When we lost our dealer in our area, we transitioned to Cr 960 and later to a CR 8090 New Holland combines. Never looked back. The NH doesn’t do the hopper job the Gleaner did, but they have been relatively trouble free . We have been using New Holland combines since 2006. Love them!😊
We have a had 3 gleaner combines loved them all easy to fixes nearly no losses out the back less than 1/4 bushels loss nobody around use with other colors can come close to that when get 0 dockage at the local elevator u set it right and Ave the right guy in the set it the best machine u will every run
I was born and raised in a country area ........until I was 7 years old. Long story short, my trade is in quality engineering and advanced mechanical problem solving and root cause analysis. I do not understand farming, but I do understand machines. Based on what I've seen in this video, we need more of this! This is how things are supposed to be made, to last period. Simple efficient designs will always be more reliable, robots and repeatable for many years. I am speaking blindly about this and now will have to go research their RMPPM against competitors as well.
good presentation.
Worked with them all and Gleaner is the best and simplest!
I cut with a s680 deere this fall in the same conditions in the same fields. He ran a 35 ft. macdon and I had a 40 ft. 9255. The S88 was abought 15% better in capacity in the clean beans, but when we it the tough conditions it was no contest, after he almost plugged the rotor several times he pulled out and got back in the clean beans. He couldn't believe how I could still run 4 mph and never look back. He admitted that the Gleaner kicked the deere's ass.
Gleanerman the 680 driver must have not known how to operate a harvester. I have run my old JD 9760 alongside a S77 and S78 for 3 years at a contracting job and the Gleaners can't touch the JD in any crop or conditions. In Australia we will sometimes harvest in 40 degrees Celsius and in this weather the small elevator blocks before you can load the rotor up to full capacity.
Why would you lie like that, shame on you.
I grew up in logging country where the KISS principles rule. Easy to fix. Easy to maintain. Cost effective and reliable. First time I saw a big silver Gleaner combine I said what is that? After a closer look, I can’t believe anyone buys the other ones. Marketing over logic but glad to see them approaching 100 years!
Now that a Gleaner, she"s a lookin' good. Lookin' good.
Pound for pound you can't beat a Gleaner for your money, smart design, belts instead of hydro drives use much less energy and you know everything is turning at the proper speed with belts as long as they aren't slipping. Relatively easy to work on as well. And I do love the way they look.
Maintenance is super nice both for the combine and the headers, my grandfather and I were able to partly disassemble the left side of the soybean header and change the straps and reassemble it in 1h30, it would have been even faster if it wasn’t the first time we did that
Nice Machine Gleaner,, you sold me
Nothing runs like Gleaner !!!
Your right nothing burns like a Gleaner.
@@theredhead5553 you mean "burns" not "runs"
Has gleaner fix there wiring issues?
hello. Why hasn't this combination been sold in Mexico lately? greetings.
Simply the best.
A proven track record.
Production not problems.
Full weight of customer support lines.
High grain recovery efficiency percentages and fuel economies.
From field to grainery, the most cost effective machines in the business.
Leaner, Meaner, Cleaner brought to you by Gleaner!!
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Is there a way to make the head centered to the combine? We’re looking to switch our combine and our main concern is how the grain cart won’t be able to follow the combine tracks since the head isn’t centered. I heard there was a “ridge till kit” but we couldn’t find anything on the internet.
The header is centered on the machine. The feederhouse opening is offset to the right.
The feeder is offset so the header is also offset to compensate so I would recommend painting white lines on the header to know where the feeder hole is lined up
Nice
I like the concept, but some of the material doesnt get two rotations before hitting the grates.
Well technically the grates do some threshing too.
Reply to Brad not Landa
And in the same conditions, how well does the axial flow produce?
In lot of dry grain like 9% beans 20-30 percent threshes in the feeder house..
It must be enough to get the job done effectively and efficiently.
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The fendt ideal combines look beautiful.
And its a massive beast. Gleaners are designed around efficiency and easy to work on. Simplicity. Not 10 tons of shiney plastic like its a sportcar
Good sell
Thanks
I bet changing that top feederhouse chain would be fun.
It is.
Not bad, door swings down underneath gives you full access. All and all probably the easiest to work on compared to watching my friends with red or green. We use to run 9500/9600 and switch to silver. In the late 90s
The first problem in combine for me its the chain of the feader, how can you do maintenance daily on the second one?
What daily maintainence? There are access panels in the tank to the rear chain & adjustment of the chain only happens once or twice a season.
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They need to redesign their rear end so we don't keep breaking spindles.
No fluid just a weak design
The spindle breaks right under the flange they weld on for the tie rods. It has been on their combines as long as I remember they only increased its size over the years . They have a new design for next year it looks like the mudhog rear end
Yes they never heard of it doing that before. I know of two others that did that this fall. I think cleaner should stand the cost of replacing rear axles then again I hit my head this morning
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What's this "we" shit?
I have never broke a spindle on any combine yet.
Alot of my customers have some super deep sprayer ruts every year.
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Gleaner is tried and true. Been around a long time but I've heard of spindle and planetary issues.
gleaner cause it is not a deere for sure
Kind of hard to take that thing into the shop every time you need it repaired. I guess you send mechanics out to farms if the farmer cannot fix it himself.
Here’s a fact... they don’t sell Gleaners in rice farming country.
boomerang379 do they even sell gleaners at all? I’m pretty sure gleaners themselves are a myth.
Only real rice combine is the old john Deere CTS or a lexion
You can special order the rice version...
@@kmac7504 agco's corporate structure is a joke, and their dealers in my state are as bad as what Deeres have become.
Miss leading when comparing feederhouse widths. Gleaner is the smallest at 39 inches, but when the material hits the competitors 30" rotor, it really has the entire circumference of the 30" rotor (94 square inches) to be spread around and fed through.. You guys try and do it all with 39". Plus, Gleaner must send the cut material thru two feeder chains and a transition to get to the rotor, whereas competition feeds with one chain.; Lastly, the feeder house is off set in a gleaner, resulting in uneven material feeding into the feederhouse, where the chains must spread the material more even. 40 year old design.
Mark Bell yes an excellent 40 year old design.
Remember axial designs are even older, and about time they get replaced, right?
Plus I don't ever have to replace cones and elephant ears.
Id rather have a gleaner than a deere. I worked as a mechanic at a deere dealership and it was not uncommon to see bearing failure of the deere rotory do to the feed design.
wonder how many bearing failures cause John Deere fires every year plus most Deere's have all that plastic shit once she is on fire cunts pretty much fucked where as the Gleaner's are metal less likely to have a run away fire
@@mattlf9120 Both are around the same age, Curtis Baldwin patented both back in the 1930s
J. A. G. Hey mate ,I don't know much about Gleaners ,what system did Baldwin patent and when did they first use the transverse rotor ? Thanks.
Small ass, goofy uploading auger. The Gleaner will thresh a lot of grain. Can't clean it though. Cleaning system is too small.
He left out the part where you can do your seeding the same time you are harvesting.
If you have worn out accelerator rolls then yes. If your rolls are good seed loss is easy to adjust & solve without loading up your sieve with MOG.
The deer love my neighbors deere.
...my neighbors used to rag on me about that....until they took their red machine out, shelled a field of corn early...and then had the bright idea of double discing the field and planting wheat into it. The field came up pretty solid with corn....and their faces were a bit red as well. The funniest thing about the whole situation was when a local agronomist (Yeah, he really is a qualified agronomist!) stopped and asked them how they were going to solve the problem...and with a straight face they looked at him and said...."wait for a frost"......
If Gleaners are so "great" why are the a distant 3rd???
Because the design is outdated and hard to scale for anything above a class 7 it’s a wonder that agco keeps them around when even Deere is going to a twin rotor machine lol not nocking single rotor machines but it pretty obvious that transverse rotor is a bad design.
@@farmyardfab so you're saying with a near million dollar machine in sub $4 corn, you can launder money faster? And if i need to harvest seed, most of it won't germinate because its all been destroyed on the way through? 😉
@@randymagnum143 well our New Holland harvests seed beans just fine 🤷🏼♂️
@@farmyardfab typed out a lengthy response about new holland machines......and then remembered.......is there a difference between the cnh machines now? Or just color? There are a few red ones around, the only NH i can think of local got turned back in after lease was up. Nothing wrong with them, i imagine. Deere seems to have our market sowed up even with all their shortcomings, with a few morons throwing what i can only assume is dirty money at claas and cat dealers for million dollar machines.
@@farmyardfab my father likes to watch the trains go by loaded with new tractors and harvestors, either a load of green, or red and blue machines mixed together. No, Gleaners, not for 40 years. They ruled this area, back then. Deutz air cooled Zippos were the death knell, along with incredibly poor management from the krauts, and then agco doesn't even seem to remember they sell Gleaner.
Bring a Gleaner down here to Mississippi and put it in some hybrid rice with a 40 foot header and then I’ll be impressed. Until then I’ll keep my opinion that since you don’t see Gleaners cutting rice they must not be all that great of a machine.
boomerang379 because rice is the only crop in the world right?
My point is that rice is the toughest crop there is to harvest and you never see Gleaners in rice.
@@boomerang379 thats rice. Gleaners have been mainly a wheat and oats harvester since gleaner ever became a known name. Come to the midwest and youll still see old c2, g, L2, and n series gleaners running in wheat fields. If the farmer hatvests his own crop 4 out 5 combines itll be a ol gleaner.
Colton Carpenter I know of a few Fs still runnin around
@@Vaneps0 theres an old man that runs a fleet of 4 old diesel g's he runs north of me.
Gleaners have always looked and performed cheap and always will.
Yes they perform & they are cheap to run.
Completely and blatantly false about how the machine is fed.
How so?
Yes, please explain.
The swivel logger is far superior to any turret unloader, extremely simple and better in every way.