MS PAC-MAN • Arcade1up (FULL REVIEW)
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2020
- If you would've told me as a kid in the early 90's that I'd one day have multiple arcade machines in my home, I probably wouldn't have believed you. Fast forward to 2020 and that is a reality. Ms Pac-Man fans, join me as I unbox and give some of my thoughts on the Ms Pac-Man Target Edition Arcade1up cabinet. I purchased this from target.com for $449. The other version of this 1up cabinet (which doesn’t include Dig Dug) are now in stock at walmart.com. This will make a great gift for any Pac-Man fan.
I can only imagine being a kid in 2020 and waking up on Christmas day to one of these. The is definitely a must have in my book. And just imagine how great of a Christmas gift this would be. Thumbs up for more.
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I think this is one of the best looking cabs Arcade1up has made. However, I plan on submitting a ticket about the low sound. I've seen videos of other owners saying the same thing about the sound. Hopefully a software patch will fix this issue. Other than that, I'm satisfied with this cab.
You should check to see if dig dug and galaxian saves high score. For some it doesn't
@@curbydinobot8633 I'll check and see if it does
Hey DThomas from NC, Nice video love that nostalgia.My favorite “Pac-man games are “Pacman Championship Edition DX+”(30th anniversary) and Miss Pacman.Besides “Dig Dug” I also played “Rally-X” to unlock a special car in “Ridge Racer” on my PSP fun game to.Have a Nice day Bro
@@martinaurik2189 thank you. Really X and Ridge Racer are classics. You have a nice day as well.
They need to make loc in chase & moon patrol
I like how the Ms. Pacman game here has the cast roll call of the ghosts unlike most versions of the game which replaced the roll call with just a plain title. Thank you for uploading this!
You're so welcome
Excellent video! Loved the unboxing and build, game play, and shots of the cabinet. I watched this video because I've been waiting for 1up to release Ms. Pac-man and I may finally buy one. Keep making great videos.
Thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed this. I think this will be great for you and the family.
This is sweet!!! Got to get one. Now you should place it next to your PacMan cabinet....thanks for the review, this helps me to see it first before buying it....so now I'm on my way to get one!
You're welcome! Check 15:18 they're side by side.
Man, you've got the BEST arcade room everrrr!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 it's literally legendary!
Thanks bro! I really appreciate that.
Dude great review! And thanks for showing all the games it came with. Hopefully soon Arcade1up will have a patch you can sync to your Ms. Pac-Man machine for the volume issues. And really love the Pac-Man throw rug man! Retro representing!
That pac-man rug looks amazing !!
😁thanks! It's a great addition to our gameroom
An absolute classic DThomas!!! Great add to your 1up Collection!!! The volume is absolute louder on the PAC-Man Anniversary edition...great video!
Aye Daniel, this is definitely a classic bro. Thanks for sliding thru.
Nice intro to Arcade1up cabinets. This is a nice one. Wish I had more room.
LOL That last enemy on Galaxian was on a mission.
This version of Ms Pac is the version imo. I like all 4 games.
Yeah he was definitely on a mission bro. And this version of Ms Pac-man should be the only one they offer.
Best part of this video was when you were playing Galaxian and said "He trying to do me in!" LOL that made me laugh. Enjoyed the review thank you.
😂😂😂thanks! Glad you enjoyed the vid.
I cracked up at that battle lol
Got mine sitting in the box in the living room right now. Thank god I have the day off tomorrow so I can have some fun like you! Great video amigo!
Now all you have to do is put it together and start having fun. Enjoy your day off & happy gaming Primetime.
Thanks again for watching
Absolutely jealous man! This looks like a stellar cabinet and appreciate the detailed video here. Thank you for having me as a guest in your house. Wish I could afford this.
You're so welcome. Glad you enjoyed the video. As time goes by, I'm sure the price will drop. They always do.
@@dthomasfromnc Haha! Patience is a virtue. And when RONA departs too
@@BaristaManiac exactly!
Thanks for the review, and congrats on finding the Dig Dug inclusion. I have super sensitive hearing, and Pac 40th was so bloody loud, I had to install a volume reducer knob. I got the Walmart version of Ms pac-man, which did NOT have Dig Dug. Has Ms Pac, PacMania, Pac Plus, and Galaxian. I was scared this cab would not have the lighted marquee, but it does. It's volume was lower than on Pac 40th, which was a relief for me. I'm pretty sure you can install a little 10, or 20 watt amp, and run a cable from your PCBA, out to the amp, and then jack into the amp, with the cable from the stereo speakers, no problem. You should be able to pump up the volume. :)
Just purchase my ms Pacman and you just gave me a different look on how to assemble it. But overall I really enjoyed this cabinet.
That's awesome! I'm glad you're enjoying your cabinet. 😁
Sweet, love your home arcade! Great video
Thanks
You have an incredible arcade collection. Great video keep up the great work.
Thank you so much
Thanks for the review. My first time seeing one of your videos. I've subscribed 😀 I'll be ordering this cabinet this week. I agree this one (with dig dug) is much better. Can't wait to add this to my (small) collection. Right now I only have Galaga/Galaxian, Pac Man/Pac Man plus, & Centipede/Milipede.
You're so welcome. And I really appreciate you watching and subscribing. Hope you enjoy the content on my channel. You have a nice collection going. Buying these cabs can be addictive but it's fun. But I definitely recommend this cab though. In my opinion, it's a must have. Enjoy your day.
“That’s that Starfox skill”
Hell yeah my man
😂😂😂yeah bro! Not many will get that reference.
It’s beautiful! I just purchased the Costco Super Pac-Man and won’t be able to get this one. I’ll live vicariously through you lol. Enjoy!
That Super Pac-Man looks great as well. How you enjoy that one.
Ms. pac-man always had a slow and fast version. One where she was faster than the ghosts on her own and another where the only way tou could get separation from ghosts was via turning OR power pills.
That'd be cool of they had that version on here as well.
@@MegaCasperC Its not a slow version. It's the original release. The later release had a speed up chip. Perhaps they will implement it with an update (if they can do it legally of course)
@@MegaCasperC Sure thing. I love the fast version, and I DO wish it was available, but at the same time, this is the one I grew up playing, so it's not a deal breaker. :)
There is now firmware available that gives you Dip Switches for all the games (change settings)
The fast version of ms pacman is on there too.
I'm like y'all I grew up on the fast version so when I first got my cabinet I was like damn but now I got the fast version on there and it's a game changer no doubt.
Nice colorful cab to have in the 1up collection👍🏼
Thanks! Most definitely is.
Nice review, and a great looking cabinet. Just to let you know, If you want to swap it out (assuming you have room) , Best Buy has the Ms.pac-man cocktail cabinet for the same price as the one you bought and has 4 additional games. Just passing that along.
My Ms.PacMan arcade is on the way. I got the Walmart version no dig dug, but no big deal since I have never heard of that game. lol. I caught it on sale for $246. I can't wait until it gets here on Wednesday and my hubby puts it together for me. It brings back my childhood memories of being at the arcade. The next one, I want to get is Centipede.
I subscribed and this is an awesome review. Your arcade room looks amazing.
Congrats on your Ms. Pac-Man purchase. $246 is a great deal. You're going to have so much fun playing. Enjoy. Bet Wednesday can't come quick enough.
Great video. Very informative. Definitely will purchase
Thank you
I got the Walmart version without DiGDug. I got for $349. It’s a great unit. Thanks for your review.
I saw that version in Walmart today. Don't know why they all didn't come with Dig Dug. I appreciate you for watching.
My family have a shop abroad and have this machine in the corner for the kids while there parents shop, it works too as profits are up
That's so cool. Definitely burn a lot of quarters up in this cab.
Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice video I really liked when the Galaxian got you that was kind of funny! Great job
😂😂😂thanks! I felt cheated when that happened.
@@dthomasfromnc I get ya, I feel that way to when I play. Like dam ships...haha
Enjoyed tbe video mate. Yes there is a problem with the audio. Arcade1up released jet another statement about a bloody patch for this one my goodness. Anyway it looks fantastic mate. I've ordered the HSN version. It has Dig Dug and a lighted front panel that caught me attention. I hope you continue enjoying your cabinet lad.
Hopefully that patch will fix the audio. And I saw the HSN version today with the front lit panel. Looks amazing. I'm enjoying the cab. Don't see how the audio on this new machine isn't performing like the others.
Awesome for a man cave, thanks for uploading your review!
You're so welcome
I definitely like that the screen resolutions are correct on Arcade 1ups......my modded versions of these games, either cut off the screen at the bottom or stretch it too wide.....I may have to pick this machine up. Thanks for the vid! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Yeah just go ahead and pick one up. But nothing like a good mod though. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Dude I REALLY like that Pac-Man rug!!!
😁thanks bro! It goes well with the game room.
@@dthomasfromnc no doubt there lol.
@@dthomasfromnc where did you get that rug ?
Fun and informative video, man! in Super Pac-Man, when you are big hold the button for super speed, and let go when you need to slow down for tight maneuvering. The trick is to get a yellow speed-up pellot to get big BEFORE getting the white power-up pellot to eat the ghosts, it resets the duration for both pellots... then you can keep getting white power-up pellots before it runs out and the duration for both pellots resets... so you can eat the four ghosts over and over with super speed ; only get the second yellow speed-up pellot when you've gone back to normal. (getting white before yellow does not work well, always yellow then keep getting white ones before it runs out) Peace ☀️
Ahhh okay cool. Thanks!
I just got one of these... My son brought it for me for my birthday.. I'm putting it together tomorrow...
That is awesome. Happy Belated Birthday!
Does Ms Pacman have pacboost or some kind of speed boost option? Im used to the sped up arcade machines or pac booster on Nes Tengen version.
No boost version at all to my knowledge
Question for you. Is the Joystick a clicking joystick or free flow? It sounded like it was clicking when you went from side to side.
Thank you!
Looks like a great product ! Great video .
Thank you
When you compare the miss to mister (sound) I couldnt here the difference! They sound the same to me fam... thank you for the review...
Ahh okay. Pac-man sounds a lot life in person over Ms Pac-Man.
Great video. Your screen looks clear and vivid. Mine seems a bit blurry. Especially Ms Pacman. Guess I got a bum unit.
Thanks Shadow. I just wish the volume would get a little louder. Apparently there's a software patch coming from Arcade1up that'll fix the volume issue as well as the blurry screen you're experiencing.
@@dthomasfromnc Yes I have the same issue with the volume. Nice to know Arcade 1up is on the issue.
I told myself to stay away from the Ms. Pac-Man cab, but I feel like it's a must own regardless of the sound.. awesome review, appreciate you going through each game of that cab and comparing pac-man.
You're so welcome! The sound really isn't a deal breaker. But it does suck when comparing to the sound of the other 1up cabs. Nevertheless, you can still enjoy this classic. I felt that it was must own for me. I don't think you'd regret the purchase. Thanks again for watching.
@@dthomasfromnc I'm already debating if I can find a spot for the full sized cocktail table version vs the stand-up. I agree the sound lvl doesn't sound like (pun intended) a deal breaker, old cabs with the sound switch was annoying too but also not a deal breaker in my opinion (MKII but also annoying).. I like that classic Ms Pac-Man cab so much hard to pass on it.. I was hoping to just wait it out and go outrun with Sega Rally but man pass on Ms Pac-Man.
@@spyghetti OMGOSH Sega Rally and Outrun... bro this cabs would sell out so quick. But it does seem hard to pad on this one. 😂 I had to get it bro.
@@dthomasfromnc check it out on @unqualified critics YT channel but he posted this:
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@@spyghetti thanks bro! Gonna check it out now.
Great review.... keep em coming!!!
Thanks! Most definitely will.
Last night at Walmart I played the Arcade 1Up Mrs. Pacman full size cabinet! NO YT video does the game justice (sorry). There it was in sample mode where you can play the four games. The ease of operation/joystick was smooth and easy enough to play. Yes there is a LOUD BOOM start-up and unfortunately a very low sound when you play the game. There is a clear playboard protector added. I can't afford nor have any space in my tiny apartment room, but I do plan on getting the Ms. Pacman countercade.
Now this is just awesome. Glad you got a chance to play it for yourself and actually enjoyed it. Definitely a ton of fun. You gotta make room in your apartment bro. Lol
I loves me some Dig Dug too! I noticed the sound effects are a little higher pitch than the actual arcade game. This is the most accurate looking of all the Arcade 1Up cabinets. They recently made a smaller countercade for Ms. Pacman.
Dig Dug is amazing. They should've put it on all Arcade1up cabs. I saw the smaller version they made.
@@dthomasfromnc the My Arcade game has the NES Rom inside a Dig Doug replica cabinet.
@@philipdefibaugh5683 nice
Great video and review. Ms. PAC-Man is a beautiful cabinet. 🙂
Thank you so much! I'm just missing the hand bag you had though. 😂 Maybe for wifey
@@dthomasfromnc 💀
@@LeilahR you don't like?
@@dthomasfromnc oh no I love it I just thought it was funny Bc I saw that video
@@LeilahR ahhh okay gotcha 😂
Just found your channel, nice review. Plan on picking up Ms. Pac-Man cabinet with Dig Dug.Already have the Star Wars and Galaga cabs. Hello from fellow North Carolinian.
What up neighbor! Thanks you. This can is definitely worth it to me. How do you like the Star Wars cab?
@@dthomasfromnc I really dig it. I mean the games are a little repetitive but I remember playing it in the arcade when I was a kid. Plus I'm also a huge Star Wars fan.
@@candoentertainment9118 that's the ultimate gift for any Star Wars fan.
I got this for 200 without a riser and the marque doesn't light up. I wish it had both things but it's still awesome and made my stepson smile huge this past Christmas morning.
That's awesome to hear. Glad he had a great Christmas morning.😁
This looks great! My gripe w/ Arcade1Up are their risers. They absolutely MUST update their riser to accommodate people who are 5'11 and taller. Some people don't mind the current height, but many would prefer something significantly taller.
Harbor freight sells bar stools
It’s 3/4 size machine any taller it would look weird
Hi…. I have the Ms pac man arcade machine, but they forgot to put the 2 J boards in with the parts. Is their any way I can get the measurements so I can have the boards cut at my job ?
You can get them from their website
Heads up I got the WalMart version of Ms Pac-Man and the Marquee doesn't light up, has a plug for a light on the back of control board, but no light was included and the Marquee is a sticker on a piece of wood. The riser included does not have Ms Pac-Man artwork, it is a generic Arcade1Up riser, which takes away from it so I decided not to use and will return, will check at Target to see if I can get the Ms Pac-Man riser version with the artwork. Wish mine would have had the Dig-Dug game, you think they would have a setup so you could add games, even if it was a cost to do so. The audio could be up graded, but the Pac-Man unit also looked bigger.
I have no idea why they just won't sale Dig Dug on ALL Ms Pac-Man arcade1up units. And while they're at it, make them all have a lit marquee as well.
U turned around right quick on them dudes in dig dug 🙌 did it on em.
I sure did. Too funny😂😂😂
The arcade 1up head to head ms. Pac man has dig dug 1 & 2
I love Ms pac man too, bought the same, almost alike , and I am not happy, Ms Pac-man, right out tha gate she moving way to slow!!!!!!
🤣🤣
@@dthomasfromnc I've Heard That Too, That It Moves To Slow... ???
His seems to be moving good . That sux it moves slow i was gonna get 1
Hey man love your game room do you get most of your arcades from arcade 1 I know the big one came from extreme
Thanks! And yeah, I got most of my arcade1up cabs before I got my Megacade.
You def got the better version having Dig Dug, it’s the best game on here
Thanks! They should've sold all versions with Dig Dug.
Does the game look slightly blurred? Mine is crisp pixels on the menu but once you launch the game is like the resolution changes and don't have the crisp pixels anymore
After reading your comment, I went back to check my screen for the slight blur and I do see what you're talking. My unit does have a slight blur.
@@dthomasfromnc I opened a case with Arcade1up and apparently that is a feature, not a bug. This is what they told me: "We are aware of a few potential features which may require a patch to enhance our Ms. Pac-man cabinet. We are currently looking into these inquiries and will work to resolve as quickly as we can. We will have further announcements on the patch in the near future.
"
Well that's good to hear. At least they're doing something. But my Pac-Man 40th Anniversary is really clear. Don't know why they just didn't keep it like that.
Not sure why they put pink trim. I've only seen arcade cabs with black
0:29 less than 30 seconds in, take for the review subscribed for the floor!
😁Awesome! Thank you so much.
Great video and collection!
Thanks
Have you updated it since you opened it? I heard the firmware update added some options for the games.
No, I haven't updated.
Great review & great cabinet! 👍
Thanks Jason
Thanks for the info on the target version
You're so welcome
Where did you get the large Pac-Man rug?
Purchased it here www.namcoparts.com/ECommerce/category/pac-mancave/decor/carpet
Where did you get yours from and do all versions of ms Pac-Man come with the lighted marquee
Got this Ms. Pac-Man from Target.com & picked up the Pac-Man from my local Best Buy.
@@dthomasfromnc i’m getting one from Game stop and I’m just curious about that because everyone to see is if it was 399 it has lighted marquee
Was watching and you were asking about the arcades and why they made so many variations, actually d, the Pac-Man version of this one doesn't light up but I bought that one instead of Ms Pac-Man because it had Pac-Man plus, I love Pac-Man plus better than I love Pac-Man itself and I had never actually played it! Another beautiful game I don't know if you have it or not is the Star wars cabinet with the bench and the light up Marquee and the blue on the back it looks like a spaceship at night we had it but unfortunately it caught a glitch and my son and I on Halloween took an Ax and a hammer and we beat it to death in the hallway for fun! LOL so we're getting big buck world tomorrow and I'm going to get another Atari Star wars as well so I'm going to buy both tomorrow and I'll post those in a couple of days like I always tell you, keep up the good work!
I thought about getting the Start Wars cabinet but ultimately decided to pass on it. I did preorder Big Buck Hunter but canceled my preorder. I think I'm good for now on Arcade 1up machines.
Awesome video!!! Very cool!
Thanks
Where did you get your version of ms pac man from? Because you have different line up from everyone else... do you know if there suppose to be different line up going forward?
I got mine from Target. Walmart version doesn't have Dig Dug.
@@dthomasfromnc there are other UA-camrs that stated there will be one other versions in the near future
@@gothamcityarcade I'm pretty sure there will be. The Pac-Man series is a cash cow for them.
Dthomas the sound on original pacman was too loud people were complaining for a fix the sound difference is an improvement to many people.
Ahhh okay. Well this Ms Pac-Man could definitely use a boost in audio.
Hey DThomas: Awesome video - What happened to the two yellow Pac-Man Arcade1Up machines that you once had in your game room?
Thanks Jeffrey! About those 1st gen Pac-Man games...I put them on Facebook market place and they should out within minutes.
Does it have a light up marquee?
Yes
Loving your carpet, nice
Thank you! It's a great addition to the gameroom.
I got the one with pacman plus! 😫 Wish it was dig dug!!!
Ahhh man...
What up my brudda.Does ms pac have sound in demo mode?when the game is turned on but no one is playing?
No sound in demo mode.
@@dthomasfromnc yes sir one of your games out of the four does have demo sound.Check yours to see which one.
How do you program it to get extra lives every 10,000 like the arcade version?
🤣🤣🤣🤷🏽♂️I have no idea
Nice video good job, Now i need to go down and get one
Thanks! Machine is pretty dope.
Where did you get that Pacman rug?!
Did a vid on it here ua-cam.com/video/uqTd8YD_5sc/v-deo.html Got it from here www.namcoparts.com/ECommerce/category/pac-mancave/decor/carpet
Hey DT, you planning ti go live? It will be blazin!!!! Just like when you were with Scantron. I will teleport with you guys!!!
😂😂😂 What up Nguyen! Yeah I still plan on going live one of these days. You gon teleport too huh?😂😂😂
Are your stools from arcade 1 up? Are they perfect size for megacade?
Yes they're from Arcade1up and they're the perfect size
Bro, where did you get it from? I pre-ordered mine from Arcade1up but I don’t have Dig Dug!!!
I picked mine up from Target.
I'm planning on getting the Pac -Man 40'th anniversary cabinet from arcade 1 up I'm making room in my living room in my apartment I know about the sound I'll fix it down the road game cabinet has all my favorite Pac-Man games including Galaga all 7 games.
Awesome
Where can I buy the riser separately?
You can buy risers from Walmart. Not sure if it would be a Pac-Man riser though.
Great show!
Thanks
Do these use a jamma board?
Not sure
GREAT REVIEW. THANKS
You're so welcome
Last thing are these games on the megacade?
Of course they are 😁
That is an awesome throw rug you are assembling it on. Where did you get it? I want one.
Thanks! I did an entire video on that. Check it out here ua-cam.com/video/uqTd8YD_5sc/v-deo.html purchase here www.namcoparts.com/ECommerce/category/pac-mancave/decor/carpet
@@dthomasfromnc Awesome. Thanks dude!
@@XAbbeldydooX you're welcome bro
Can you hook up extra speakers to the unit!?
You probably could. I don't see why you couldn't.
Probably want to use something like computer speakers that are self powered, and just add a plug in y-jack so you have sound right there in front of you or remove the pair that came with it and replace with a good set of self powered computer speakers.
DThomas - Great unboxing video. I noticed that you had Ms Pac Man on the Megacade, and as you've said, the screen and the speakers are better on the Megacade than on the Arcade1Up - So the decision to buy the Arcade1Up version is because of how cool the cabinet looks?
Thanks! When my wife and I first purchased Pan-Man Arcade1up I said, "Why in the world don't they have a Ms Pac-Man?" When family and friends visit us, it's cool to see everyone hovering around these arcade1up's having a blast. And I will add that it does look cool in our gameroom. Not everyone knows how to navigate thru the Megacade. But those 1up's are simple.
Tore em up on that first play. Ate all 4 lol
🤣🤣🤣yessir!!! That's how you suppose to do it.
That speaker might be faulty or they used a cheaper speaker.
Something is going on
Thank You for the review. I ordered mine. Now just waiting. Did You do the firmware update?
Just seeing this....Will be doing the update now thanks to you.👍🏽
@@dthomasfromnc 🥂
Awesome
Is there multiple boards on this particular cabinet for Ms. Pac-Man? My husband plays it on his PS4 and it has 141 boards. I’m trying to decide if I’m going to purchase this cabinet for him for Christmas. Awesome arcade room by the way!
I'm not sure how many boards are on here but it's the original game right from the arcade. I think this cabinet would make a great Christmas present for your husband.
As of today (it was delivered this morning at my local Walmart) has a Ms Pac-Man, Galaxian, PacMania and PacMan Plus in a Ms Pac-Man cabinet. I haven’t heard or seen any news about this particular cabinet???
Yep, that's the Walmart version. Don't know why they didn't just put Dig Dug on ALL the Ms Pac-Man cabs.
@@dthomasfromnc thanks for reply - i bought the arcade1up Galaxian cabinet when it first came out and now I see it bundled with Ms PacMan - not sure what to think about this as it kinda feels like Arcade1up is taking advantage of its customers by rereleasing these titles - maybe should just wait a year or so and arcade1up will eventually release one cabinet with all the games on it - from a customers perspective not a very good way to build consumer loyalty.
@@Chekmate99 you're welcome. I too had the Galaxian cabinet but sold it along with the 1st gen Pac-man so I could get Ms. Pac-man. It does suck that Arcade1up are putting games on these cabs that that were on previous machines. It sucks for the customer especially when you've already purchased one of those 1st gen cabs.
Omg i have the same one!!!! but i think i assembled it wrong because mine dosent turn on from the top part where it says Ms. Pac-Man:((((
Yeah you must've missed a step. 😁😂
Can the speed be increased?
No not to my knowledge
My Ms Pac cab wont save high scores on DigDug...better check yours bro!!
the reason they have different versions is to sell more units
Exactly
I'm very new to these almost full size arcade machines.
Can anyone tell me exactly how this patch is used for fixing the bugs in Ms Pac-Man?
In other words, is the fix something the factory does to all machines?
Or, will my husband have to buy a patch and try to figure out how to fix the bugs himself?
Please don't mind the question, if a foolish one.
I'm not savvy when it comes to these things. 🤔
Thank you
Not a foolish question at all. The company will more than likely put out a software patch that you can download from their website and update via your PC. Should be pretty easy to do.
@@dthomasfromnc
Thank you D. Thomas.
Hopefully, my husband will know how to do it, once cab arrives.
This is a nice forum.
@@RainbowUnicorns2023 you're so welcome
Do you buy these direct how can I buy them
I purchased mine from www.target.com I don't think they're selling these direct.