Would You Rather Be a RICK or a JERRY? - The Psychology of Rick and Morty - Wisecrack Edition
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“He’s so stupid, he doesn’t realize how miserable he should be.” - Bojack Horseman
naha its just that over sensitive pepol are bitches
thats me lmao
The thing is, you shouldnt take advice from someone like Bojack
"For a long time I were miserable because I thought it's the only way to be." - Also Bojack Horseman but after he got sober
I'm sure Rick and BoJack are doing shots together out there somewhere.
even if we assume that smart ones are miserable, it doesn't mean that miserable ones are smart.... so....
Very true, but try telling that to the Rick and Morty fanbase. They're not gonna like you.
hw h to me both of those things can be connected, one being miserable helping them become genius and the other way but it can also not be connected because I feel every single thing will affect what they will have or who they are, like I could be really happy and smart because of how I lived and someone else could be the same with different events while someone else can also be smart yet sad and all of those combinations, but I also feel that people with same or really similar events might have completely different feelings depending on their own views, but I also think if you got a reset to this time Button and press it multiple of times and you have a family member that always will have very similar or exact events after the reset button, they could have complete different emotions because probably how they think back on those events they could see a completely different view on it, I agree with that being a possible way someone could become, they can be smart and miserable and can be miserable but not as smart... I also kinda think it’s a bit like multiverse theory or time travel
Dip Dop I agree with him though and I’m a rick and morty fan •-•
Yes. You would have to be an idiot to think that all correlations go both ways. Most don't.
not all miserable people are geniuses
not all geniuses are miserable
there's obviously more to it, but this is still fact
Jokes on you, Wisecrack. I'm miserable AND stupid! :P
Big mood
My man!
Ok, I am actually pretty average according to that stupid online IQ test I did, but still.
Why did I read that with Jerry's voice? lol
Same here
Ditto. Shouldn't that be joke's though?
I'm amazed that noone has ever pointed out to the finale of season 1 when Rick realizes that he's had so much fun with his grandkids that he hadn't said wabba lubba dub dub at all while the time was stopped, probably meaning He felt happy and wholesome that whole time.
Carlos Sosa 🥺
yep, literally living "in the moment"....
i mean no offense but i think no one pointed it out cuz its pretty obvious
lol when I was 18 I was really into Dostoyevsky. I strongly blamed my loneliness on the fact that I was smarter than everyone. then I went to college and quickly found out that I was far from smart
Lance Lovecraft college doesn't necessarily mean anything
Lance Lovecraft TO BE FAIR , YOU HAVE TO HAVE HIGH IQ TO BE DEPRESSED (etc)
Lance Lovecraft Intelligence is a subjective concept anyways. Nobody can have every kind of their intelligence effectively measured, and being pretentious about it is a stupid thing to do...no matter what, we're all stupid and intelligent in some way.
Beth the Dark Mage, or as Plato once attributed to Socrates : “The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. It is because I alone, of all the Greeks, know that I know nothing.”
Lance Lovecraft
Omg youre upside down! Be careful, dont fall!
I think Rick's misery is partly due to the fact that as the smartest man in the universe, no one can ever tell him something he doesn't understand, no one can teach him anything. When everyone is literally inferior intellectually, life would be constant frustration, he has no one who he can have meaningful conversations about physics and philosophy with, so he adapted by being a loner, which works at first, but as years wear on, the sadness creeps in. Why else would ricks seek out other ricks like at the citadel. It's just the smallest hope of meeting someone who doesn't seem like a moron in comparison.
The Duke Hey, 2 months late but I don’t think this is the case. Don’t misunderstand, Rick is definitely insanely smart, however there are many things he doesn’t know and there are things he can’t do as he’s stated before. I’d say his misery or attitude doesn’t come from being super smart but being a nihilist and the notion that life is meaningless or rather it doesn’t matter what you do because there are infinite universes. In his case (his cartoon reality) seems to be the case. However, even in his reality you don’t have to think that way as seen from Morty, but as he sees it ‘the smarter you are the more accepting you are about it.’ Just my thoughts 💭.
@@memetruther7902 Basically, he's sad about that there's no objective meaning/purpose, only subjective.
The Duke why do I have the impression that you're describing yourself ?
Mjnoon 360 because life is a mirror
Hate to say that I feel the same way of this Rick lecture because makes me look like a ahole, but I rly doesnt think that I am a genius, Im just curious enough to look like a smart ass. Anyway... nowadays the closer that I get to someone who talks about something deeper the person falls into some zodiacal shit or some random normie trivia to deflect the subject of the conversation. I feel this way a long time and Im rly getting depressed for look for more people. Sorry for sharing too much btw
"If knowledge hangs around your neck like pearls instead of chains, you are a lucky man." -Alan Price, _Oh Lucky Man!_
Oh, hello there
GENERAL KENOBI
"Intelligence only illuminates the bars of the prison we are in." I don't remember who this quote is from but it stuck with me through my entire life
"Thanks psychology; I went to school for you" is a great line.
Imagine being so “smart” that you pay 70$ a year to be in a club where you proselytize about how smart you are...
I think it’s what they’re willing to pay to find people they can truly get along with. They’re able to follow each other’s thinking patterns.
Ah yes, the “I’m a rube who got suckered into a goofy vanity inflation scam” thought pattern. How intellectual...
Alex Rosenow hey man, I didn’t say anything about the quality of their thought patterns
-Sofie- haha, fair enough
Alex Rosenow still though, I wonder why you post such criticism, if you want to call it that. Do you think there’s a specific personal reason for it? You wouldn’t take the time to write such a thing if there weren’t one.
A wisecrack video about rick and morty?? WOAO. I wasn't expecting this.
But it's always great.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar yeah,sometimes they are repetitive and lack real substance and insight in their philosophical videos,i hope they realize.
woah this was totally unexpected, this isnt what i was expecting, what a perplexing mystery this is...ok we get the point no need to bust my balls
I wouldn't say they lack substance, but yeah, they kind of tended to be repetitive.
Hans Hintermann sometimes it really lacks substance .eg the drugs video that intended that adderall and amphetamines could make you superhuman(i laughed my ass about how stupid it was)when the author Fukuyama never even intended that in his book,video about how existentialism is the only way to understand Bojack Horseman,etc.This channel needs more criticism,even when in a lot of videos they behold philosophical outlines and views from left wing thinkers that dissect the worst parts of capitalism and in the midst of them Jared wants to sell you things and calling out his advertising services.Someone had to say it
I still loved wisecrack.
I literally just came here to see all the people talking about how smart and sad they are
anjetto1 yeah smart people dont need to convince cretins that they are smart. They know that they are smart and everyone else has limited brain capacity and could never comprehend anything above their mundane life.
Same with confident people... they dont need to convince others that they are confident. Like for jobs, its not what you say you are. Its how you articulate what you are.
Well i liked the video, and then hated that I knew what all the comments would be. I’m surprised there weren’t more “oh shit maybe I’m super smart cause I know I’m super depressed” but uhh yeah Oof
Im kind of smart and sad.
anjetto1 I came to figure out what the song in the last handful of seconds of the video is called
anjetto1 yep. I’m definitely depressed, and a part of Mensa. Rip memes are my only happiness
Both are miserable, but Rick does it with style
no they both do it with style and they're both hilarious. Jerry just isn't aware of it.
cant agree more !
Rick has higher highs (Unity orgies and drug parties) and lower lows (wub a lubba dud dub). Jerry only knows mediocre and standard everything.
Until he splits from his wife Jerry seems pretty content with his lot in life.
Jerry is miserable but who can really blame him? He has a train wreck of a family and face multidimensional threats. In the real world jerry would be a content man. Even than most of the time he is content.
The problem with being depressed and being intelligent is the fact that a lot of times you just want to end it but you're smart enough to know it wont solve anything And sometimes that's worse than anything.
Fixing one’s own problems will create some for others. The paradox of our bullshit.
@@scottydoesntknow6901 I don’t think so but not fixing your own problems will cause pain to those around you. Besides if you can fix your own problems you may have the strength not to cause problems for others but in fact help them with theirs
MENSA people are smart. I mean, until they pay to join an organization to tell other people they are.
Wesly Z That's not even close to why we join lol
well mostly because smart people want to excersise their brain with stuff
what other way to do it other than hang out with other self proclaimed smart people
Wesly Z MENSA IN SPANISH MEAN DUMBASS
The Abortion haha I’m a Spanish speaker and I didn’t even realize that. That’s pretty ironic
most people who think they're ricks are actually just sad jerrys
Edit: Ok, I stole this comment from a twitter post my girlfriend showed me and it got way more likes than I expected, and now I feel a little guilty and mean, so I feel like I should clarify since so many people are reading this.
I meant this as a playful way of saying "ego is more common than talent."
As has been pointed out in the replies, Jerry is a regular schmuck like most of us, a little narcissistic and foolish, but well meaning. There isn't anything wrong with being a Jerry, and there is /NOTHING/ (Nothing!! Nothing at all!!!!!) wrong with being sad!
In my regular schmuck mind, I have always believed that existential depression is a mix of being depressed and narcissistic, hence being a sad Jerry, in which a privileged, overactive mind incorrectly ascribes their very real emotions to a lack of higher purpose. But I hope I have made clear that I do not resent any of those characteristics!!! Depression is a very real condition, and if you experience prolonged feelings of sadness or worthlessness for /ANY/ reason, it is not "your fault for overthinking things," and you are in no way defective, or of less value, or unlikable, or selfish. You are depressed. Your value as a human being is intrinsic, and you deserve love and compassion
If you identify with Rick and feel personally attacked, I'm truly sorry :(
On the plus side, if you feel alienated/existentially depressed, I strongly recommend therapy to help you be comfortable with yourself and become the best human you know how to be :) A huge thanks to Wisecrack for promoting good mental health and destigmatizing therapy, and a huge thanks to Helen for her testimonial!
As a final note, I'm realizing this comment has become weirdly personal and sincere for a youtube comments section. But I can't help it. I don't want to be mean! I don't want to make y'all feel bad, especially not on a video sending out such important positive messages about mental health. I want to live in a world and chat on an internet where people are kind to eachother and assume the best in one another. Take care of yourselves, take care of your mental health and your emotions, and look out for the people around you.
Love y'all,
-Squim
Squim zing!
Jerry is the everyman. He is literally the audience surrogate.
Mmmmm...I think Morty is the audence's surrogate. What we see are the two extremes and the average. Jerry is the extreme of stupid and Rick is the extreme of being smart. Morty is average and depending on the situation rises or lowers in the spectrum of Rick and Jerry.
So true😂😂
Angel Guerrero yeah the "I know I'm not smart so I'm better then this social group" argument
When you are responsible for other people's lives, as is the case with being a parent, you don't have the luxury of being a Jerry. You might not ever be a Rick, but you don't get to be a Jerry.
I'd rather be a Summer.
gluten free bleach Ikr !!
Same
Wait a second that's illegal
"Where are my balls Summer?!"
I am Phoenix person.
If i'm gonna die
I might as well know everything about the universe
It is all random, meaningless, coincidence. IMO. And it is unlikely anyone alive today will be able to know everything about the universe in the next 100 years or so.
Aiden Pearce Ahh, the typical wanna be smart ass comment hoping to demean somebody else only to realize nobody cares...
@@SuperOscar2003 who hurt you? Why be such a dickhead, he's probably right...
I'm not a super smart person but I still have existential depression.
Guau Waf ...
You're a Jubei fan, how bad can you be?
Tends to be a symptom of watching rick and Morty
I once wondered why I am a human and felt the most depressed that I ever had for about 5 minutes...
It was the Mariana Trench of my emotions.
Welcome to the club buddy.
That's a f#@$ing subjective ass question
Best line of the month
I don't know if I'd consider myself all that intelligent, but to me, it seems almost like being bipolar. You take a look at the state of things in the world, and can't help but constantly think about all the variables that are crushingly depressing, yet at the same time you can appreciate the beauty of life itself in everything around you. Ups and downs... and then there are they days where you can cruise somewhere in between hiding it all and 'blend in' better.
That's called having "normal" mental health.
Gabe xD That's kind of you for saying :/ I certainly don't feel 'normal' most days.
@@blammod664 I feel the same dude. I have no illusions about my intelligence, I may be slightly above average but not by much. I see the good and the bad in the world, the news or stupid stuff on campus is depressing as all hell, especially when you know none of it matters and it's all pointless, but I find joy in music, in film and in my personal relationships
Man... The answer is: "Don't think about it.". I am bipolar and have a high IQ, and I can't help but have diverging thoughts like you. But the answer is still not to think about it. Normal or not, Intelligent or not, the best way is not to think about it.
@@blammod664 jokes on you. There's no such thing as normal 😂
The thing is that ricks cognitive skills are through the roof, but his emotional intelligence is below even Jerry's. Rick is petty and selfish, this hurts his relationships. And makes for a great show.
Talks about rich people having better health
shows graphic of Steve Jobs, a billionaire who died from cancer
Nizwiz411
So you use one example out of thousands? OK then I'll show you magic Johnson chart....cured aids when other died every day he is still kicking. Can't even detect it in his blood.....so yea rich people are healthier. Doesn't mean they are smart though.
Nizwiz411 Cancer has nothing to do with wealth though. It attacks everyone equally and there is no cure. Their point still stands though -- the wealthier you are, the better you can maintain your health financially.
if only there were more people on earth
godofyouall489 I get you but seriously, could have shown so many other people. Define irony
Nizwiz411 I like how its obvious you were just making a funny observation that wasnt meant to be an argument or anything substantial, but people still took it serious and started nearly debating you. Ahh youtube comments, always pits of toxic waste.
I can be smart and happy. I've got pills.
Depending on what you take you're probably just a maniac
What joy
Username and profile pic add up.
facts fr tho
I remember when Prozac was the wonder drug though never used it myself.
Redgrin Grumboldt thank god I'm not the only one who noticed
SYNTHWAVE IS THE FUTURE, BITCHES!
Skull&Shark is a great album
I know right, I was like that's Lazerhawk's Overdrive
ikr :)
Intelligence didn't make Rick miserable, Rick made Rick miserable.
He runs away from responsibility and avoids things that could have helped him. He bailed on his daughter for years and he avoided therapy that could have helped him and his family. There are plenty of average and below average intelligence people who do the exact same things Rick does just in a less flashy/showy way. IQ only alters how creative you are with avoiding help and improvement.
It all depends on whether the world has more Jerry's or Rick's. Unfortunately, in a world seemingly full of Jerry's... YES. It is miserable being a Rick. MENSA members are typically narcissists. Narcisists are prone to depression, but a 'hyperbrain' can do more than contemplate the worlds problems. It can contemplate the solutions. Knowing the solutions to many of the worlds problems, and being helpless to sway the writhing sea of Jerrys to execute them, IS a recipe for misery.
Ironically you if you need to persuade the idiots.. You just act like an idiot... We humans like those most similar to us... Our cognition is amazing but our bio-typical responses to situational stimulus... Is very hard to override
it's not THAT bad if you say jerry is basically the worst possible intellect atmost 50% of all humans are idiots, the rest are propably more a beth then a rick though
Tom Merker is that based on true statistics? 50% lol
Vern Hestand the fact that you said that having a hyper brain can do more than just seeing the bad but to find a way to solve problems reminds me of one of their episodes when Rick suggested a better way to generate energy without torturing many Mortys and can do the same effect by only a few in a jumper cable, do you think it reflects the way corporations slaughter cows so they can feed the population? woah let’s not get in two deep
And you what else this means? If the creators thought of it in that manner, then this indicates that there IS an evil morty in real life pulling the strings! The citadel, its system, infiltration, man I admire evil morty but at the same time I don’t, he started off as one of the morties and somehow got himself in a bigger position where he is the boss, controlling other ricks who where the ONES who started the citadel, ironically
@@Fernando-rw6vz well, someone just outed himself as a jerry
My IQ is TOO high for EITHER happiness or depression since I watch Rick and Morty
Nate Nodelle "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to..."
You stupid af if u think u have a high iQ cause of this
woosh
Woah haha nice orginal joke that ive never heard before bro
r/woosh
Hmm... My one point of contention here is that I know a lot of very smart poor people and dumb successful people. High intelligence doesn't necessarily mean financial success and low intelligence doesn't necessarily mean financial hardship. I think it's more a matter of the TYPE of intelligence, personality, and background.
you heard of the dude who invented under armor? he's a real dumb fuck
amen
No-one said that was the case, we are just discussing trends here. If there is some correlation, then perhaps some causation could be implied. Of course these things are so highly complex that naturally there will be plenty of exceptions to whatever rule we might come up with.
Yes, personality and background certainly play a huge role in determining whether or not someone achieves success, but intelligence is by far the strongest predictor of success, there has been plenty of research made on the subject.
THIS. Not only that, but many traditional IQ tests don't ACTUALLY measure INTELLIGENCE, but your level of EDUCATION. And, unfortunately, high education levels are usually more-or-less bought. The more $ your family has, the better schools (or even private tutors) and lessons (music, dance, art, etc.) you end up attending, so you're exposed to more, which is what most places and groups tests, making a child look more gifted than they are, meaning they have more oportunities set up early on, so they have even more later in life, and it all just snowballs.
Meanwhile, the kid who is actually super-intelligent ends up having to claw for every little bit they can get just to survive as an adult, along with a fair amount of grief/depression/feelings of inadaquacy because they seem to "be unable to figure out how to" better their situation, because people seem to believe that higher intelligence automatically = sucess, without taking any other sociological factors into account.
InsideJoke I don't know what "traditional" tests you are talking about, all the IQ tests I've seen in the past 20 years or so have only been concerned with testing mental capabilities (verbal ability, abstract thinking, spatial reasoning etc), as they should be. Also, educational opportunities (gifted programs and such) are rarely (if ever) based on IQ tests, there are other types of tests for that.
Haha, “crisis of self.” Rick as a character and me have all the exact same issues and I got diagnosed with borderline personality, which just means my ego is incredibly unstable and has a hard time establishing itself
I would rather be morty.
HELL SPOON
*I'd rather be Snuffles/Snowball*
Evil Morty ^^
Morty is actually both smarter than Rick and dumber than Jerry.
a pickle morty.
HELL SPOON just a reminder, and a i quote "i need you to shove this wayy up your but morty"
It's like that episode of the Simpsons when homer stuck a crayon up his nose and became dumb
Became dumb? I thought he was always dumb..
there was an episode that explained he was smart until he stuck the crayon in his brain
Wow! The longer you live, the more things you learn ^^
I love that episode! I feel bad for Lisa, they were finally getting along. But Homer was so depressed being lonely he stuck the crayon back into his brain be dumb again. He left her a note first, "I took the cowards way out." It must have been hard to adjust to the sudden change in lifestyle. If he had developed into the genius experience from childhood, he would have been better able to adapt.
I thought about the same thing
Great minds think alike
Or like you say, people who join a society like Mensa probably do so to gain the bragging rights, and so might be driven so much to join entirely optional societies designed mainly to make its members feel special might have a higher rate of depression because they don't have a strong level of internally produced self-esteem. So they strive for these status symbols only to find once they achieve them that they're kind of meaningless, and return to seeking reassurance from the yet to be obtained?
Makes me think of Peggy Hill really.
This is Voltaire's "Candid' book, which is one of the greatest book ever written to me.... "we must plow our own garden" was the catch phrase and was still a heavy thinking till late 60's (when mass media and mass manipulation made being ignorant a heavy soar...). read this book at least once a year for nearly a decade and still enjoy it.
Are you a Rick or a Jerry
Me: I'm more a morty
Oh gee, I don't know...
manictiger it mean your neutral
Apiphobix L
*I'm more like Snuffles/Snowball.*
@Jordan Godwin
I was quoting Morty's favorite phrase.
philosophy of true detective plz plz plz!!
there is no special philosophy about it . Rust is a pessimist and nihilist that' all
Goat T He changes in the end, though
right he overcomes his nihilism
I mean, they already did plenty of videos about nihilism and pessimism. But I would really love to have one about rust cohles antinatalism.
You went straight for depression! Lmao XD
TL;DR
Its easier to be happy when you're dumb than it is when you know too much, when you see how dimwitted our species is it's hard to not be depressed.
This video helped me a lot. Thank you very much. I'm really going trough some hard things and I think the best thing I can do is to talk with a professional.
So like when’s the next thug notes coming out?
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I wonder that every time I see a new vid from them. That series needs a new run too.
The real question
Brown Boi yes please
I think they aren't doing anymore Thug Notes, he has a new podcast
“He who increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow”-somewhere in the bible
Ecclesiastes 1:18
I remember this from assassin's creed when al mualim says it hahahahaha
@Christopher Laflamme well I mean the conclusion of Ecclesiastes is that wisdom is good
I happy life is overrated, a satisfying life is more fulfilling.
I red that in robot
Something Jordan Peterson espouses
The difference ?
@@potmki6601 fulfilled life means having a meaning, vision of what you're doing even if it may not be pleasureable at first.. but good luck finding that thing that drives you to do so
"He who carries much wisdom carries much grief"
I don’t wish to sound like a pseudo intellectual straight out of r/iamverysmart but I would wholeheartedly wish to be a rick over a jerry ANYDAY. People around me have told me I’m supposedly very intelligent but I have enough self awareness to realize my crippling mistakes that are my lack of wisdom and general laziness and if I participate in the cruel optimism that is my interest in existentialism with the double whammy that is OCD, I feel as if I’m on the verge of killing myself 24/7. Still, I would rather be omniscient and be completely devoid of happiness than be stupid and blissful.
yup!
Shazbutt r/justneckbeardthings I think this is more appropriate for you
But that defeats the purpose of being Human, living in blissful ignorance is kind of am extremely human thing to do. I can sympathize with you on a couple of things like being 'aware' and existentialism. But being aware of your lack of knowledge or having an over abumdance of knowledge is more of a curse than a gift. Its kind why theological ideas of the "tree of knowledge" lead Adam and Eve from paradise to misery.
Shazbutt Continue to stroke your EGO. You should try some L... 🤙
One problem with your premise, happiness is subjective. There is no way to measure if you're more joyful than your friend because you're proud of yourself for being able to pick a movie apart and understand what makes it good and bad as well as what parts specifically speak to you or your friend is more joyful than you because they feel nothing but enjoyment while watching a movie they mostly don't understand. There is also no way to swap places to see if the person picking apart the movie would even be slightly entertained if they couldn't pick apart the movie or if understanding what makes it good would ruin it for the other. A similar problem to overeager self-diagnosis, happiness is entirely subjective.
Not to mention the fact that all polls or questionnaires require the statement of how happy they are and not a measurement of such. There is an expectation when answering questions of what you're supposed to say, given when you think of whatever social structure you most identify yourself by. For example, religion is supposed to make you happy therefore you are more likely to lie on a poll that you're happy if you're religious and unhappy than someone who doesn't have that expectation placed on them. They think they should be so they say they are.
Even with all that said, happiness is something that is ridiculously difficult to measure even conceptually. What I think of as happiness looks like depression to my family while their lives seem miserable to me because I wouldn't enjoy their lives and they wouldn't enjoy mine. I could write a poll designed to tell if you're happy by my standard and they would all test out as depressed and vice versa.
I'll turn myself into a pickle before I ever talk to a therapist.
Why tho?
@@mitab1 I'm stoic and strong-willed, and currently don't need therapy. Plus, I have good friends that I can call on for help, if I need it. Also ... they charge way too much.
Wisdom = Smart + Not Being Miserable
Not at all Wosdom=Expirence and intellegence
I want to be a Jerry. He gets to live with his soulmate.
ziljin I agree to an extent. "Normal" relationships kind of bore me. I have pushed so many people I love away with my hyperactive brain... It annoys me too. I overthink everything. Its borderline OCD.
Never thought about it like that, but I think it's instructive to note that, as Rick observes, Jerry achieved his relationship with said soulmate (I'm using your term though I disagree with the very premise of such) by preying on her merciful empathy, which is a tactic I consider dispicably manipulative. I would personally prefer a relationship built on mutual trust, respect and affection that, with the collaboration of both parties, elevates the participants to a new and enlightening level of self actualization; this paradigm is distinctly subverted by Jerry and Beth's failed marriage which is punctuated by deep insecurities, ambivalence to a partner's wants and needs, severe and lasting disregard for a partner's emotional wellbeing and an uncertainty if the union was even voluntary i.e. did we get married just because we got pregnant. Given all this, I think it dubious that we could even term the two as soulmates to begin with, and I think that any real world analogy of Jerry should take a long, critical look at how they conduct their interpersonal and romantic relationships, as few of the fictional character's tendencies could be considered healthy, let alone contributable to a successful marriage.
You mean Sleepy Gary?
This only really applies to Season 3.
If you watch Season 1 and 2, Jerry is capable of some pretty pathetic things.. yet there were times where he did things that ONLY a soul mate who truly loved someone would do. Has everyone forgotten about the deer they hit who was shot by the hunter, and how it was Jerry who came up with the idea of the Ben and Jerry's ice cream delivery guys pretending to be an Animal Humane Society so Beth could operate on the deer without the hunter's lawyer suing her?
So if you want to blame anyone for Jerry becoming a sociopathic leach, blame the creators and writers for "Homer Simpsonizing" him.
That hates him for not being a rick lol
The question be a rick or a jerry?
My answer: both are equally miserable but being dumb aswell would be worse so I choose being a rick
Ikr!!! Jerry and Jerry’s life SUCK
don't forget that there are different types of intelligence. and not all 'smart' people are interested in things as petty as "making money". in fact, many of those geniuses in human's history are not necessarily the wealthiest people; because they care (& think) more about how to change the world, mankind, & civilization for a better future, not just merely only about money (serious problem with today's capitalist era & society). so be careful with the false correlations.
Smart people true genius level people don't care about others. They know it's pointless.
I'm Pathetic
3 genders? You mean 2
godofyouall489 lol have you read or listened to geniuses??? You should know this isn't true..
I'm Pathetic Thats not transgender 😂 that's intersex.
These geniuses aren't the richest people because their notable contributions aren't to lucrative fields. Physics and mathematics aren't well paying fields.
Inteligence is a unique capability of humanity it can be used in many different ways, the problem comes when is only used in a cold, nihilistic, deontologist way. Rationality makes you happy when is in service of humanism(compassion, caring for others, etc). So is not that simple as if you are smart you are miserable.
S2116518M1141scool thing is a smart kind person realizes how little they can do when humanity generally doesn't do what is right for them. Meaning no matter what they try and do it won't matter in the end making all there work and effort pointless and there life meaningless.
I thought utilitarians were all about rational service of humanism - the utility is the values they want to maximize for (usually well-being). This is the exact opposite of nihilism, which has no values.
There are a few general misconceptions within your own arguments here, but the conclusion made is accurate, I would say. Intelligence is by no means unique to humanity... in fact it could be argued that humanity is the only species of animal capable of being unintelligent, as no other species is capable of ignorance. They'd die if they did, human society prevents the natural conclusion to such self-destructive mentalities. Another misconception here is that "humanism" as you describe it, is not immediately a source for happiness as you claim. In fact, the compassion you describe can easily be the source of an intelligent person's unhappiness. There are so many people in our world who cannot be helped, due to their own ignorant ideals. In fact, those people are far more common than people who can be helped. It should be fairly obvious that a kind, caring person desiring the best for others would get depressed in such a situation, should they be intelligent enough to understand this. A third misconception here is your association of rationality and high intelligence. This is rather minor, and may be a bit of nitpicking on my part, admittedly. Intelligence doesn't have any relevance toward rational or irrational thoughts. A genius may be just as capable of irrational thought as rational thought. The same is true for dunces. The negative connotations surrounding your use of nihilism and deontological ethics suggest a misunderstanding of these concepts as well. Deontological ethics is merely the idea that action is more important than results, and the intent is more important than the event. Essentially, this is the idea that says negligent homicide is not as evil as actively slaughtering innocent people on purpose. Nihilism itself, you seem to understand the concept, however have drawn inaccurate conclusions about it. Nihilism is neither positive nor negative on its own, this depends on the mindset of the person with those nihilistic beliefs. A person who needs their life to have meaning, who needs to be important in some regard, will obviously be quite unhappy when exposed to nihilistic ideals that suggest life has no meaning. A person without such needs won't be so negatively affected. However, I do find your final conclusion to have merit. Being smart doesn't make you miserable, that's all in the mindset of the individual.
Please analyse the philosophy of CRAYON SHIN CHAN anime series...
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ive been subbed to wisecrack for years this is my first time seeing this video. super welcome in my life right now.
"I can't afford health care, so I'm stuck being less happy"... I'm really glad i live in a developed country and not the USA.
You mean a country that takes money from other people?
@Evan Reese That's not how it works in here, keep living in your bubble.
@Evan Reese I'm spanish and my father is a public health doctor, I think I know how it works ;)
@@pbl99.sp_ How does it work?
In my city it's a 12 month wait to get even a phone call session with a therapist
OMG I can already see the r/iamverysmart shit show coming in the comment section.
Eli N.S It's already here bro
In short, intelligence is a risk for reward system. Having above average intelligence correlates with heightened depressions and other sorts of poor emotions for a better chance to get more from life. Along the same vein having an average or below average intelligence correlates with "weaker" poor emotions with a lower chance to get as much from life. I love how many unknowns there are on how the human mind works.
I think I'm a Jerry … who's also depressed af. So … great.
Things get better. Just try to improve your social skills and intelligence by learning how to change your behaviors. It took me a while to get a job or even talk to my peers because of my social awkwardness
Thanks for your stupid comment Jerry.
if you think you are a Jerry... you are thinking about yourself... therefore... not a Jerry in so doing?
that ain't gonna end well so good luck
Smart people often tend to think they are not smart. Cause they no deep down, they still have lots to learn in life.
But dumb people often believe they are smart.
The fact you can acknowledge it, means you are most likely not jerry
Super neat video!
Have there been any studies about correlations between narcissism and IQ?
People who think they know everything,irritate those of us who do.
Common sense would dictate that narcissists fall into the upper portion of intelligence levels considered average, or toward the lower end of the scale. A legitimately intelligent individual would have the logical capacity to understand that personal capacities and self-worth are unrelated concepts. Being a narcissist would likely mean the individual's life experience indicates to themselves that they are "better" than most people, suggesting either a delusional view of their own past in general, or at least being slighly above average. Self-delusion is a decidedly ignorant path, thus it's safe to say that a person following that path would be of lesser intelligence.
I know that none of this really had anything to do with IQ, but I figured actual intelligence was a more fitting metric for the discussion. That being said, there is a distinct difference between perceived narcissism and actual narcissism, which effectively invalidates any possible "scientific" method of testing for this particular issue. With uncertainty introduced on whether the individuals tested are narcissists, or simply have personalities not understood properly by those doing the testing, the test itself becomes both pointless and inaccurate.
Squim IQ isn't a good way of testing intelligence. Mathematical competence maybe, but that's about it.
Beth the Dark Mage it’s is the best way to measure intelligence. Are you familiar with intelligence research?
Dont Misunderstand
I asked about IQ because I don't think "intelligence" has a universal definition, so it's a little wiggly to talk about. As I've seen it, it's usually ascribed to someone as a compliment to mean "they did something difficult which required thought commendably." Someone might be called intelligent for solving a difficult math problem or logic puzzle, but be very poor at social interactions. Conversely, con artists are often called "highly intelligent" for their manipulative ability, but there's no reason to expect they would be particularly good at math.
Overthinking brings stress, stress brings depression. So yes the smarter you are, the more pathetic you feel.
of course i'd choose to be a jerry, ignorance is bliss
there is a point in studying philosophy that you realize there are 10 million possibilities to the origin of the universe, and if you try to find an answer in it , its absurd. Many drive mad, cause nothing makes sense anymore
a jerry is always the best, one who is content with a tasty meal or a beautiful flower, while a philosopher is hardly ever content with anything
hassan shahrokhshahi There is a subtle difference between being happy and being content. Ah the limitations of language are apparent. Happiness is not bounded by reality; contentment is. It is comparing the joy of a baby being tickled, with the feeling one hopes to have just before dying. You hope that you've done everything you needed to and it's all ok. Qualitatively, they are very different.
"Ignorance is bliss" is a stupid saying, while true for certain types of knowledge, ignorance can certainly be very damaging and at times even life threatening. I think it works best as a joke, not as a general statement about the nature of being.
I just diagnosed myself with an IQ of 140. Pretty good, huh?
IQ's are meaningless
no
@@karsten69 I don't think so, but that fact makes me feel kind of better about my stupidity.
@@nooooo2843 I say they are meaningless because there are many different IQ's. There is one for logical reasoning, one for musical understanding, one for understanding language, one for understanding unspoken social cues, one for understanding yourself and a few others. Scoring yourself based solely on logical reasoning reflects only a small portion of who you are.
@@karsten69 Fortunately, people who get IQ tests are only testing for logical reasoning. Half of the "IQs" you mention aren't actually separate from the ability to solve problems or the speed at which you do so, and the other half aren't related to intelligence at all.
for me the realisation that "life is ultimately meaningless" is comforting, significantly soothed my anxiety, now I just think to myself that my mistakes don't matter, one day I will be forgoten and as long as I'm here I have time to turn any misfortune around,
in addition it made me realise the importance of relationships with others, if there is no goal in life then everything that matters is the journey, and by spending time with friends and helping less fortunate you make sure that this short journey is as pleasant and easy as possible for others
To everyone thinking that IQ isn't a good predictor for success, well that's just plain false. There is undeniable evidence that there's a strong correlation between IQ and financial success. Of course you can find odd examples, where someone intelligent is poor and someone dumb is very rich, but that's just circumstanstial evidence.
More than anything, the reverse is true. Social status and success determines IQ. People in a higher social class are much more likely to have had caring parents, with healthy eating habits and educational attention, thus increasing IQ potential at birth. The problem, is that generations of people in higher social classes are much more likely to stay in their own class.
There is a difference between cause vs. correlation
pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/
But what comes first, the chicken or the egg.
I think the situation of self-made billionaires makes a good case that high IQ causes financial sucess...
It's simple highly intelligent people feel more lonely because there are very few people who match they're intelligence , where they're can be stimulated and challenged and most importantly connected with.
YUP.
Mjnoon 360 how did u figure out my problem with life?!
Penguin Fluffy
hah, I'm glad.
just don't be like Rick when you grow up , he's highly intelligent but doesn't have much self awareness .
Self diagnosed "ANXIETY" is now the norm.
If its not self diagnosed is it even anxiety
so being stupid and rich is the best combination, I got the stupid down, now let's get rich!!!
For in much wisdom is much grief, And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow. Ecc- 1:18
As someone who is smart and currently depressed, this video sums up everything really well.
/r/iamsmart
Check it out
I'm very smart and cant help but to be self destructive. I am dedicated to my goals but will sabotage myself to start up again. I charm ppl and make them feel a connection but cant seem to fall in love. Basically I'm in my own head which means I get so many ideas and they aren't all good for me.
i would be a rick,if a can make dimension portals,i could just make a happy ray
roberto boy I would go to and never leave the dimension he found where no one aged and he was a novelty
I find it interesting this is the prime example of this question because another channel asks and explains the same thing using Rick and Morty as well
I really enjoyed this vid- do you have references for the research/literature cited?
I'm more of a Beth; not ignorant or a super genius and slightly unhinged.
I'm more like Snuffles/Snowball than any other Rick And Morty character. X,D
I'm like tiny rick edgy, talented, likeable and self destructive... and this unibrow I'm rocking won't come off... ever.
I also thank Wisecrack for always leaving us answerless because if not, the hunt would cease to exist, therefore the meaning
In my experience, if someone says, they are a genius, they are probably either a Rick or a Jerry.
I’d rather have knowledge about reality and be miserable than living a lie and happy
Will you take the red pill, or the blue pill?
@@cdorman11 I will take the purple pill
i think if you would have this knowledge and be miserable you definitely wanted it to be the other way round
= red pill. Good choice.
That's what stupid people sey
I literally feel dumber since I've been less involved in several things I used to. Being stupid makes you conform. And conformism leads to happiness.
@[BosS] HITMAN 20 people believe in God for multiple reasons, some are brought into it so it engraves the idea in their mind. Others just like the idea that after they die they go somewhere, it's the natural survival instinct. When you talk about God like that it makes you sound like an ignorant douche. You aren't any better than anyone who believes in God and you aren't any worse. If it makes people happy and content then let them believe it
You're right on----ask any super left liberal socialist~!!!
Maverick Hunter K I think that actually conformism is more likely to lead to being unhappy. Because you do things that are familiar, non risky; That means that you can't really move forward and see or feel something new. Eventually, you get bored and stuck in that circle from which is hard to get out, since it is 'safer' and more familiar
Tamara9727 I understand what you're saying but that wouldn't be true conformism.
That would just be compromising.
I recently read a quote by Lao Tzu that says "when there is no desire, all things are at peace".
Take it however you want, it can be both good and bad.
@@xmaverickhunterkx Yeah, I think I know what you mean. Not really the definition of comfort I interpreted, but more like level of awareness Sidarta had in Herman Hesse's novel. I'd say we think very similar, just not using that word in the same context
Hearing that song just brought back so much memories
Being smart doesn't make you miserable, being a perfectionist and radical reductionist does. I think it's a social issue: people who call themselves intellectuals define themselves by their relentless pursuit of knowledge above all else. But viewing yourself as a meat puppet and neglecting all your emotional needs as meaningless obstacles in the way of intellectual pursuits is basically self-flagellation. And it's hard to stop that thought pattern because if you slow down to care for yourself you're not pursuing knowledge, which to some means that you're not truly an intellectual because you're not devoting 110% of your effort into "worthwhile" pursuits. For lack of a better word, it's toxic. However it is definitely possible to be smart and satisfied, you just have to let go of "being smart" as your single defining trait.
As I look through my past and realize that I have been living half my life as a Jerry. OOF!!!!!!!! 😰
I think I would always rather feel too much rather than nothing at all. They say ignorance is bliss but a blissful existence almost seems like a wasted one. When you think about depression, sometimes it feels like you're so sad you're dying, but if I could cure it instantly I wouldn't want to. It's part of you and gives you a certain perspective and appreciation for other things
The. horse. Is. Dead.
Not a Fan big mood
Is that Shrodenger's horse?
Not a Fan time to beat it then
Stoooop, he's already deeeeaaad.
Why do you idiots click on videos you dislike? I've ignored thousands.
I want to be a Rick but I'm a Jerry
Why do u want to be depressed?
Rick is ruthless and almost heartless. Would you really like to behave like a psychopath as he does at times? Think about all the existential depression and guilt of mistakes made.
I'd agree with Mills on this, "It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, are a different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question."
It's better to be a rich Jerry than a poor Rick.
Hands down better to be a rick than a jerry any time of the day. Maybe it's because of our mentality of wanting what we don't have, but if I could be a rick, I don't see how I would have the time to be depressed if I can just distract and immerse myself in my own talents.
That’s what Rick tried.. he tried to distract himself with the manhunt for Rick prime than Adventures but it caught back up to him. Eventually you will run out and the misery will catch up.
I stopped thinking about the bigger issues and concentrated on the small moments of mundane life and I have never been happier. be a jerry
Ignorance can be a blessing but it doesn't help us going forward or growing as a person
Wubba lubba dub dub
Calvin Bottoms Aka I’m in great pain
I'M got scam Twice..
I don't think is intelligence what brings sadness but information and awarness... the more we know, the more we question and thus the more we find questions for which we have no answer
{tl;dr.}
Depression and anxiety are artifacts of cognitive dissonance, not intellect or IQ.
Depression revolves around one's rumination of being ineffectual and maladaptive to the predominant social and cultural norms, which are excessively influenced by predatory economic systems of power.
Denial of one's inability to escape the paradigms of labor commodification and psychosocial alienation, by any means other than wealth accumulation, are mostly inaccessible to the conformable mainstream mindset. Whereas, the divergent mind can future trip on the existential anxiety of uncertainty and the inability to discern a pathway towards equanimity due to a distortion of ideological fundamentalism. This distortion is caused by a misinterpretation of reality, which reinforces a cognitive blindness, which is unique to the individual's dysfunctional *unconscious assumptions*.
Life is pain, not because it is meaningless, but because it is fraught with irreconcilable internal conflict, which is further tortured by external relationships with others whom are also in conflict with themselves.
We live in a dystopian anti-social civilization where we can barely speak of the symptoms of social disregulation without violating the perception of intersectional inequities. Our perceived right to participate in negative sum game theory, while seeking out differential advantage, creates an ethos of perpetual crisis whose only escape is a violence upon one's self, others, and our ecology.
The result is an Easter Island Prison Planet where the delusion of narcissistic denial will increase until conclusion: 6th extinction. {Not to pick on narcissism. Again, it's just a symptom, not the cause.}
There may be an escape from this conundrum but it is ironically unavailable to the tortured citizens of Earth due to the acceleration of antisocial behavioral feedback loops. {Rick is ironic, not cynical as might be expected.}
That said, optimism is found only after one can grieve the possible future realities of civil and social dislocation. Until then, we are all prisoners of our own creation... regardless of IQ. If there is a way out of this labyrinth of self-deception, it will not be through the illegitimate violence of hierarchical tyranny, nor will it come from a techno-literati effete. {Conflating psychological happiness, politocal security, and environmental sustainability with economic income and wealth is a psychosis born of ignorance, not stupidity.}
George Berven ok then if u r so smart to be able to sum up the worlds problems in a comment then why are u wasting ur time watching rick and morty videos on UA-cam
Perhaps the most pretentious comment I’ve ever read. This must be copypasta
@@Sebastian-hb4rb Yes, I’d agree. Perhaps, my comment is a bit reactive but it seems like a complicated subject so maybe a little controversy that mildly violates a common fear could provoke some thinking about the current global peace situation.
I presume that the cynicism about the problem of civilization collapse is mostly from a sense of concern and compassion being constantly undermined by systemic forces larger than ourselves.
With seven active US military wars going on, in a supposedly democratic nation, I’d like to believe that my comments are a bit less pretentious than those who blame individuals for a systemic problem, which I’m guilty of doing myself.
I had to look up what copypasta is... and no, this is just a reaction about the context of the video. I’m certainly willing to risk being wrong and while this type of mild trolling does miff a few, it’s relatively harmless and easy to dismiss. Some might find an interesting quip to stimulate their own understanding and generate sincere introspection, reflection or conversation. As you may have seen that there is little tolerance for false presumptions among the frustrations of the professional technological working class; comments like this are just seeds that float on the wind until, one day, someone smells the fragrance and resonates with a notion that there are still people who care, despite having no ability to change the past, present or future.
Regards, and thanks for your candor. I do wish to be effective in my communication and belief that the intended audience will appreciate the dialectic.
@Aaron Smith Your kindness is appreciated. For your consideration...
If we’re going to try to reform the global political economic system from within the framework of economic liberalism, we end up running in circles as portrayed in the Rick & Monty multiverse.
From outside the liberal economic order, the potential for systemic sustainability is possible, albeit improbable.
A revolutionary economic order may be necessary to avoid species extinction. For this perspective, try this 10 minute clip from (1:45:10-1:55:26)... here {ua-cam.com/video/hV9PJhhqw5w/v-deo.html}.
Regards.
@@grb1969 my man writing treatises on UA-cam comments
You would figure "genius level" people that self-diagnosed themself with clincal depression would be smart enough to seek out some type of professional help to both support and manage their condition.
But then again, mensa members are generally viewed as egotistical douches, so I'm also not surprised they would believe proper diagnosis, therapy, and medication isn't for them.
(Note: please seek help if you believe you have a mental health condition, even if just to get checked by a professional to verify or assuage your concerns)
u realise that these same people who are geniuses and are being praised for being one , also get a bigger ego and say shit like how rick says therapy is useless and duck it.
That's not how depression works...
You can be intelligent and not know what a therapist is. Also, it's much harder to tend to a "genius level" person because they can have very powerful delusions if they are at all introspective. Drowning yourself in your work is probably just the easiest way to take care of it.
@@DuckoftheDraw Depression is a very vague term now, but yeah "real" depression is on another level than what people normally think of; you might not even act on the compulsion to eat.
Depression manifests as a myriad of symptoms on a spectrum, and they are not purely emotional. Some have it worse than others. Depression doesn't care how smart you are. It can be so debilitating you can't even get out of bed
intelligence, like many things, has an uncanny valley.
its fine at the bottom, its fine at the top.
the middle can be a terrifying place.
But both Jerry and Rick have things to learn
I'd rather be smart and miserable, than happy and stupid, so Rick hands down, total red pill mentality, the harshest truth is better than the sweetest lie.
Betterhelp sucks. It's the same cost as a therapist after the air and is more expensive without aid. You do not get someone to talk to whenever you have to schedule just like normal but you lose the real person. 1/10 would never use again.
Therapy is for chumps anyway. Chances are you know the answer to your problems already.
Dyllan Miller How to tell someone is mentally ill: they obsessively dismiss psychology and therapy
ZIX The funny thing about being crazy is that if you admit it you definitely are, if you deny being crazy you are also in denial. Your argument is non causa pro causa.
Nothing wrong with psychology btw, but therapy is at best mildly efficacious for most people.
To live is to risk it all. At least u will have adventures :o
I like to think that I'm a Rick but in reality I'm probably a Jerry. I, at least, see myself as a Jerry, but others seem to see me as a Rick. I experience existential depression but I choose to be happy, my knowledge makes me aware of why I am/should be unhappy but also allows me to choose ignorance (or distraction) to free myself of it.
This video is great and wow Helen is gorgeous. You go girl!
Oooh i want to hug her!
I think one big reason intelligent people are more likely to suffer depression and angst comes down to simple speed of thought. A smart person generally reaches conclusions faster, understands concepts more quickly, and can see the conclusion of someones speech and formulate an objection before an average person finishes articulating it. It's a real downer to feel like the whole world is moving in slow motion. If the intelligent person just gives up and develops a habit of solitude, you get to add a lack of social interaction to the mix.
I think it's better to be smart than to be an ignorant. With that said, both Rick and Jerry are horrible people!
NIETZSCHE SAYS," IN THE ABSENCE OF GOD MAN MUST LEARN TO LOVE HIS FATE."
My problem is, I haven't learned to live my fate, let alone love it.
SPEAK UP.
Jerry doesn't seem to be happy. The other characters trash him for being too optimistic for how much he sucks, but most of the time he tries to find any distraction from his life
It’s my problem I wanted smart people to feel miserable, it only means that it’s no one other than me