Since Terminator 2, the effects have got progressively worse. Compare the T-800 from the intro of T2, to the CGI T-800s from later sequels. T2 makes the later efforts look like cartoons in comparison. Because that's exactly what they are.
I just love the detail of her saying "it makes you a more efficient killer" and he agrees. She remembers him chasing her and he can't remember it at all. Because it wasn't him.
Exactly, such a good detail. But I also think think that the Terminator would still agree with Sarah even if he did remember chasing her in the first movie. It would simply be a statement of a fact that wouldn't bother the Terminator in any emotional way.
@@Nick__1409 You're right, it wouldn't bother him at all, just good that they reset his chip and makes him a bit emotional. Also she remembers how scary he was while chasing her, is why she brings up that efficient killer line.
It's not just servos moving - which are normally silent. It's the servos RESISTING being moved! Which if you think about it - is even BETTER attention to detail!
I love how the reason the Terminator asked "was there a problem" at the end of the surgery when he is reactivated is because he noticed the Elapsed Time on his screen was 1:26, which was a lot longer than he was expecting. I didn't notice that until I reviewed this scene a couple years ago.
I tried calling customer service to get a refund on my terminator, but they keep sending another back in time to try and kill me. Worst product ever, 0/10 😤😤.
This is a KEY SCENE that should never have been left out of the movie. This is the scene in which the Terminator is freed up to actually begin learning. It's a great scene, and key to John and the Terminator bonding.
It may start getting like the AI in certain video games, where they're supposed to be helping you and they're standing there saying "Ooh, look at the pretty clouds."
@GrapeSkoda As a religious person myself, i half agree. The other half is based upon fitra(human conscience nature). Some people call it "empathy". It's a general instinct that tells us which is right or wrong.
1:24 that part is just incredible. Tells you so much about Skynet. Doesnt even trust the terminators thinking on their own as a group incase they disagree with Skynet. Not wonder it decided humanities fate in a microsecond. But then what else can you expect from a defence computer that became self-aware: everything is either an enemy or a potential enemy.
It was also proven why the T-1000 is a VERY limited model. Due to its ability to be nanites, always changing its processor meant that it was more active, thus "thinking freely."
There was a myth spreading around that Skynet wasn't able to tell the difference between the army and the Soviet army. Like, enemies and allies. It thought everyone was an enemy. Another part of that myth was that Skynet came to the conclusion that starting a war was a mistake, probably because it lost. I don't even think Skynet neccessarily had to be self-aware. It's a military application, the programming was probably just off. Self-awareness is not neccessary to have a system react like this.
Lore says that this was why Skynet didn't make more T-1000's - they went out read-write, and started to _enjoy_ what they were doing... Skynet was afraid of a coup.
4:30 Just noticed that the Terminator immediately knows there was an issue because of the time elapsed message on the top right of his HUD. He crosschecked the times and knew it shouldn't have taken so long to flip a switch.
@obzen9503 Usually when I timestamp I add a few seconds so you don't have to immediately figure out what the heck is going on within a few microseconds
@@dsdy1205 I counted the seconds after the terminators deactivation, and the machine was off-line for longer than what the elapsed time says in his HUD It’s actually more like 1 minute and 46 seconds. Since I believe it’s a 10 second time skip between the shot were John Connor picks up the CPU from the toolbox, and then, the very next shot, where he reinstalls the component back inside of the Terminator.
@floridahighwaypatrol7713 well, it ain't a perfect system. I personally work with embedded systems that are supposed to track time elapsed when the system is off, but they can be off by up to an hour if you leave them off for a whiles.
Her acting in this movie shouldve warranted her an Oscar. Seriously, she really does have the affect of someone whos suffered an insane shock and has been institutionalized. Amazing performance.
@@ericglasgo7828 bipolar disorder is about going through consecutive manic and depressive mood swings, and not personality splits, hearing voices or anything like that.
It’s funny that the terminator’s cpu can be accessed with common tools, yet here I’m struggling to fix my Nintendo DS without the stupid tri tip screwdriver.
military equipment or very expensive machine are generally made to by fixed more easily , it only the cheap stuff that is made to not be fixed so you have to buy new one
Sarah Connor says he doesn't know what it's like to kill one of these things, but John somehow captured one and reprogrammed it AND sent it back to protect him. So I think the line to his mom saying that she should start listening to his leadership ideas was actually really powerful. This scene also explains why suddenly a machine learns to smile and joke around all of the sudden when he didn't up to this point.
@@darkzero79techincally he does know what it's to kill a Terminator he just hasn't done it yet. If none of this were true it would've been pointless to even protect him
It’s her PTSD acting out and PTSD’s aren’t exactly rational. She associate death and destruction with the T-800 model even though T-1000 is much deadlier. It’s a human thing.
lol If that happened, the T-800 would revert to it's basic standard programming and terminate any humans as the programming that the Resistance did on the CPU would of been wiped off.
In a way, that scene gives a good lore to Dark Fate Sarrah, with her hate of Carl. And it gives Carl a higher praise for beeing able to bypass Skynet lock.
They brought in lindas twin for this scene. They have to learn to mirror each others movements for the mirror with no camera scene but john fucked it up and it got deleted. John fucked up
4:33 when the Terminator was back online it showed on his screen that he was offline for 1 min and 26 seconds.. that's why he asked was there any problem.. thats some good detail in this movie👏
I noticed that detail, and I also noticed the detail when, later on during the chase, the T1000's actions in the helicopter causes the Terminator to drop one of the shells. After a lot of jostling around and evasion and evasive maneuvers and shooting back, the Terminator reaches right back to where the shell fell. No mere human would have remembered that detail. They *might* have remembered that they dropped it, but they wouldn't know exactly where.
yes but the dialogue and everthing else went on for 1 min 55 seconds - nice idea but they could of got this right but however not intrical to the story
Indeed. If you look closely at the CPU in the brief moment when Sarah looks at it, you can actually see the switch he mentioned on the chip, right below the metal tab, clearly visible. As such, it would have taken less than ten seconds to pull the chip out, flip the switch, and put it back in, which is another reason why he asked if there was a problem.
I've never really read the words on the Terminator's head's up display, but there seem to be some cool little details in there. For example, I've just realised that this one is Cyberdyne systems, series 800, model 101, version 2.4!
This scene is possibly the biggest reason why I'll only ever watch the director's cut. Why this 3 and a half minutes of footage was cut I'll never understand. It adds so much, letting you see just how much Sarah does not trust the T-800, but also how much she's willing to trust her son. And then later when Sarah is thinking to herself about how the terminator could be the best father figure John could have, her newfound trust in the terminator is so much more meaningful after seeing what all happened in the earlier garage scene.
because there was a risk of factory resetting the terminator by tinkering with his cpu....people would've questioned it.....Also if the terminator was supposed to have emotions then the future John Connor would've done that already
It's a good scene but it interrupts the pacing of the movie, and we already know that Sarah has intense distrust of the T800. And future John already reprogrammed the T800, so this is redundant.
@@Bowiiihowdy Truth is, it also creates a plot hole. You are telling me they disabled the T-800, removed its data drive somehow, rewrote its code and then reinstalled it...and somehow never knew it had a 'develops emotions' switch on its cpu. And important to note, *John* has also does this before since this already happened. It also just makes far more sense that they used its own cpu to rewrite to the data to begin with, which would have required the switch.
I still find it amazing how different Sarah is from the first movie. She went from a meek, terrified woman to a total badass. She's a bit psychotic but that's understandable considering everything she's been through and knows. Linda Hamilton is incredible.
@@parisbeech2180 in my mind why did the state hospital staff go with them on mission ti see she was not crazy and super robots exist they could have helped in Terminator g the cop believe them
Yeah, THATS proper character development and brilliant acting. I miss the good old days when both male and female action heroes had proper development or they were established as veterans. Mary Sues like Dani Ramos are just so cringeworthy ("I vant to stend end feit!!" 🤮🤢).
@@TDKiller415 you couldn’t have said it any better. That’s why the franchise went to shit after the 2nd terminator. That and John Conor from 2 didn’t come back. They just went hella woke on the last one. Like cmon now. The women they put on the films was just a bad move. The build up to Sara Conor was just what made her even more badass and made it more believable.
Fun fact: There is no mirror in this shot. Linda Hamilton is working on a special effects Arnold with it's back to the camera. Linda Hamilton's twin sister was with the real Arnold in the "mirror" across the shot. Also, Edward Furlong did not need a body double, because he was on meth at the time and was able to run fast enough to position himself between camera shots.
3:54 "...so MOVE!" What power Linda Hamilton has in her voice. Perfect casting and an incredible character arc from the demure, feminine young woman she was at the start of the first movie. Bravo, Linda!
I can't believe he honestly let them remove his CPU, literally in direct conflict with his primary mission directive. Can't protect John if you're deactivated.
I think he actually in a way had no choice as it was suggested by John to do it, he has to listen to any instructions given to him by John even if it endangers the primary mission, such as saving Sara at the hospital and going back into town to try and stop her from killing Dyson later on in the film when they were safely near the Mexican border
@@ThePathStrider at 4:35 his display shows 1 minute 26 seconds offline when it would normally take less than 10 seconds to flip a switch on the cpu chip.
People overuse the hell out of that word, but this is a film deserving of that title. It is about as good as sequels ever get, and a good film in its own right.
I love how, after this moment, the terminator ceases to be just a machine You can start hearing feeling, emotion in his voice, he starts smiling and making jokes
The way they shot the scene with the mirror without showing the camera is pretty ingenious. There is no mirror. That's a fake wall and the "mirror" is actually a hole into another part of the room that's just meant to look like the reflection. The real Arnold is on the other side, facing the camera, while the "Arnold" on our side is a dummy. The real John is on our side, facing the camera, while on the other side is a double, facing away so it's harder to tell it's not him. But what about Sarah? She's facing side-on, so you can see the side of her face on both sides of the mirror and you can tell it's her. The one on our side is Linda Hamilton. The one in the mirror is Linda Hamilton's IDENTICAL TWIN SISTER. The while setup is fucking rad.
What the fuck..? Seriously??? Holy cow that's elaborate for one shot. It is hard to hide cameras and crew in mirrors though, so I get why they had to do this.
@@Kriegsbeil5577 Also the special effects makeup is always added on top. It would be kinda tricky to make a 3 inch hole into Arnold's skull and make it look credible.
Yup, her sister Leslie. Leslie was also in the climactic scene in the steel plant where the T-1000 disguises itself as Sarah to fool John and the real Sarah tells him to get down. I guess whenever you see two Sarahs, one is Linda and one is Leslie. They got it to work amazingly. They also used _another_ set of identical twins for the "must be my lucky day" hospital guard.
Sick acting from the Connors, really shows the fragility, fury and paranoia from Sarah and the innocence, kindness, strength and leadership potential from John.
@@nathannael6124 Yes. And you know what, they can yeet him whatever ways they like, as long as us fans never accepting it and not going to see their crap cashgrab products.
I've always seen the cut where this was removed and I'm glad I did. I think this scene is unnecessary and makes the terminator look awfully vulnerable.
@@noisevector My gosh. Vulnerability is exactly the point of the whole scene. T800 was a likeable character and he totally deserves the buildup. I'm glad that scene exists at least, makes you think and has excellent acting.
@@cybergothika6906 Not that early in the movie I think. It makes him look weak instead of the great protector. Skipping the whole chip removal scene and the laughing scene doesn't make him a less likable character in any way. He still learns to be more human towards the end.
Funnily enough, it wasn't removed outside the US. In Europe (or at least here in the UK) the Director's cut was the only version shown on TV and available on video. It was only once they started creating DVDs and used the US theatrical cut as the master copy that these scenes went missing.
That fade-out scene where the terminator stands guard and doesn't move from his task while the hours slide by. Remember Reese in the car telling younger Sara ..."and it absolutely will not stop, ever...until you are dead" There is so much to love about T2
I love how when John asks him if it hurts when he’s shot, he’s like “I detect injuries, and you could call the data pain.” It just shows how out of touch with humanity he really is at this stage. Like pain is just a check engine light to him.
At least he doesn't get shot anymore for the rest of the film, only manhandled and beaten up badly by the T2000 at the end of the film which basically destroys him
@@MondayNightRAWsRKO2024-xk9ew He gets shot a shit ton more at Cyberdine by the swat team and the cops after his mini gun surprise. The bullets tore half his face off remember? And it's T1000 not 2000.
Linda Hamilton’s twin Leslie was also in this scene: She is Sarah’s mirror image in this scene. Sadly, Leslie passed away unexpectedly in 2020 at age 63. Leslie was a nurse. 😢
“Makes you a more efficient killer right?” “Correct” All terminator models ever: *has multiple opportunities to crush a throat or punch a hole through the heart. Chooses to throw targets around.
I wonder how much of Michael Biehn's performance influenced Linda here. Sarah has all the hallmarks of Reese's traumatized personality; you can see it in her eyes when John's trying to talk her down. Steely and resolute when working, crazed expression and jerky movements when someone gets in her way. She's truly become Reese: a hardened warrior, desperate to do anything against things she's seen that nobody else could possibly understand, and amplified beyond him as a mother protecting her child. Linda at least deserved an Oscar nod for this fantastic job.
She didn't become Kyle Reese. Kyle was no where near as violent and mentally broken as Sarah is here. He was a lot more calm and rational with more self control. Sarah flies off the handle in almost every scene in T2.
@@SKBottom not saying he doesn't have PTSD just saying he had more of a grip on it. He would of had to in order to get the job done wether it's to protect Sarah or fight a war.
Its a good thing she didn't, would've put her in a vulnerable position to have the shit slapped out of her without consequence and the assailant have a standing ovation shortly after.
That was a really deep line by John to his mom. How is he supposed to be this great military leader if his own mother won't listen to him? Damn, that's powerful.
He's a smart kid. Hes been well taught and looked after by Sarah, Enrique and co. I imagine John would've excelled in school if he attended. Remember, he was supposed to meet Kate Brewster for a make out sesh and he wanted to go to the arcade with his buddy. A total bro lol
@@revolverocelot1380 I'd say they're diplomatic. They are robotic and emotionless in how they deliver words unless trying to change up (like the t-1000 does) will help them to infiltrate better. Think of them like soldiers. They are some of the most polite people you ever want to meet, but if they were in a way situation that same super polite soldier can put a bullet in the heads of an entire family.
Holy shit.... I actually don't remember this scene... this is one of my favorite movies of all time and I've never seen this scene. NOW IT MAKES SENSE WHY T-800 WAS ABLE TO DEVELOP EMOTION AT THE END
At 3:47 Sarah Connor: "You don't know what it's like to try to kill one of these things" John Connor: "Mom, let me tell you about my day at the Galleria"
It's funny how easy it was for them to remove and reattach this CPU. Even though CPU's in real life have a lot more steps in assembling and typically requires special tools and not these common ones.
If you freeze the T-800's vision at 4:34 it will tell you the elapsed time it was shut off, which is why the T-800 asked them if there was a problem...
It was a really ingenious way to do the scene with practical effects and it still holds up. It reminds me if the hotel room eyeball scene from the first terminator though with that its pretty obviously a molded prosthetic.
Respectfully, I disagree. There's small traces of it left in the film, such as when she breaks down crying in front of Dyson's family after realizing he's not responsible for Skynet at that point. Linda completely sold both sides of that whole scene, going from someone who's almost a Machine in her own mind, to having her sanity restored when she sees the genuine fear on her victim's face.
I think she simply doesn't trust terminators or skynet period add to the fact it looks like the one that stalked and tried to kill her and also killed kyle and well its more then understandable in fact if she was chummy or comfortable with it that would have been a major red flag to me at least@@Dee_Nice89
It's chilling when she said "You don't know what's like to try to kill one of this things" at 3:50. That's show Sarah still consumed by her traumatic experience from the first Terminator.
@@ArtofLunatik the original mission programming was likely completely erased by the resistance. The resistance just kept parts of the original programming, like the robot controllers, and all that. But the original mission directive code was wiped and re-written
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz Okay. They explained why he did it in the film, and Arnold made the very idea of that funny, but whatever. I am just tired of the dark fate bashing. If you don't like the film, fine. But people need to stop being so nasty towards it.
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz Yeah, you have that right, as your lack of eloquence put so delicately. But no one has the right to criticize someone they don't know, and no one deserves to be demeaned because of their gender or nationality, which is what I constantly see people doing with this film. Aren't all human beings born with the same rights as everyone else?
Man Stan Winston's practical makeup effects, Puppetry and Prop design were just absolutely amazing in this film. Still to this day I love the T-800's design, down to every little detail. It's so cool to see how the Neural Net Processor is completely protected with so many layers.
What I really fucking love is that the neural net processor has the layers of squares. If you look at the architectural diagrams of tesnor core cpus (ie, gpus) that's pretty much what it looks like, even if the chip itself is shaped differently to how they actually look. Tensor core cpus are massively faster than standard CPUs for neural networks because can more efficiently resolve matrix math. For reference, the modern concept of AI is decades old and was limited by hardware. Most of the basic concepts around neural networks and tensor core cpus existed at the time of this movie. I have no idea if this shits luck, probably is. But if it was it's a great moment of luck.
@@generaloberstmoon9876 Yeah 3 is ok. 2 is definitely the best one hands down. I actually liked Salvation. Genesis is tolerable. Haven't seen Dark Fate yet.
I liked the weird terminator designs in Salvation, like the bike terminators and the eels. The rest of the sequels seem to just reuse the t-800 and liquid metal / morphing ability but slightly changed, Genisys and Dark Fate are guilty of that.
@@doudymac In Dark Flop, John Conner is murdered and the T-800 goes on to live a mediocre, ordinary life and he appears just a short time and the rest SUCKS. No John Conner, No Arnold Schwarzenegger, No SkyNet EVER EXISTED. They replaced John to some mexican girl, the T-800 to a SJW-1000, SkyNet to thing called, Legion. All that hard work to save John....for NOTHING....!😡 They'll never get my money! I'll never support (dark flop) that sorry excuse for a movie!! 😤
Exactly, his character is what gave T2 it's human compassion feel and helped make the franchise what it was. They totally disregarded all of that when they killed him at the beginning of Dark Fate. As if he never mattered
In John's defense, he turned out to be right. In Sarah's defense, you don't know what it's like to kill one of these things... at least in the first three movies.
The transformation of sarah connor in the second movie is so real, i can totally buy it...i rewatched terminator 1 just yesterday and reese actually talks about how sarah learned john everything while still a child...such attention to detail, amazing...two different movies , one is horror thriller and the other is an action blockbuster but the transition is so seamless, perfect...cameron truly is a master...
Love how Cameron saved on loads of digital effects and money in this scene by the fact of just simply using Linda's twin sister as if she is her mirror opposite-simple, saving on cash and did the job perfectly!! 👍👏👏
Killing people fast vs. throwing them around is a deliberate choice by its psychological warfare module. It evaluates the situation and if there is some SFX-budget left, he throws his opponents around instead of killing them. That's why the first movie was the best, not enough budget to weaken the villain. ;)
Resets the pin switch "erases all resistance programming" puts cpu back in with restored factory settings "terminate john connor" lol sara be like i told you not to trust IT !!!
If that was possible he would tell them cuz it's conflicts with his main mission "Defend John Conor" though to let them get to CPU conflicts with it either.
The chip was probably completely wiped clean before-hand, so even if resetting it erased the resistance programming, the T-800 would just end up having no mission and not know anything. He would basically be like a robot baby.
This scene is great because you see how a childish teen starts tranforming into THE John Connor. Rational cold thinking, traits of a good leader. Great script.
I disagree. He's acting on emotion. Plus, him thinking that being a great leader when he's 30 means he should be trusted as such when he's 10. Not smart. Weird that Sarah falls for that one. Maybe she separately came around to thinkin it's not such a bad idea anyhow.
@@nthgth He is acting on emotion because he has come to see the Terminator as a friend, yeah, but he also makes some very good rational points there. Plainly speaking, everything he says it's true: Without the T-800 they don't stand a chance against the T-1000 and it's also the only proof they have of the future that's going to pass (it's literally how they convince Dyson to help them prevent Skynet's birth). Also, if not even his mother will listen to him, who will? That last line is what finally makes Sarah relent. Also, Sarah isn't really acting rationally at all there. She is merely trying to destroy the T-800 based on her own fear and resentment of the prior model that tried to kill her. But she has seen what the T-1000 is capable of at this point. Destroying the best ally they have against that more advanced model is just stupid, period. It's also important to consider that the rest of the movie does makes you understand how Jon could grow to become a good leader. He is compassionate but also crafty and a quick thinker.
He really starts on that path when he realizes how much his actions have consequences when he sics the terminator on a guy only for the terminator would try to kill the guy. He starts to get real and serious at that point.
I love how John is in this scene, stopping his Mom from destroying the Terminator. You can just tell how he speaks to his mother that he'll be a great leader. This is why I didn't watch the newest Terminator movie. 3:35
Sarah: You're no good to us if you can't pass for human". Also Sarah: "Deglove your entire forearm and permanently expose your robot hand for them to see."
Today, we call that "practical effects". And the realism of them is why J.J. Abrahms went that route for a lot of what he (and Rian Johnson) did in the Star War sequel trilogy. Hell, they even used real film instead of digital!
This scene was way too important to have been deleted, I always wondered how a futuristic robot killing machine learned human emotions while becoming a Stepfather. They really, really needed to leave this scene in the theatrical release.
In the theatrical release they simply replaced the scene with a dialogue of the T-800 saying that he adapts to human behaviour because of the neural net processor. This extra scene was just made for some eye candy and to show how Sarah feels about the situation.
Sweet Candy Suga Army Now I'm wondering if a terminator could kill Pennywise I mean, he's weakened by lack of fear, and a machine is incapable of fear...
@Mike Driggs the fact that John Connor was killed makes the movie bad, terminator fans want a terminator movie where we see John Connor leading the human to victory during 2029 and the movie ends with humanity rebuilding itself
killing john connor like that was dumb. If they didn't want him in the film they could just say that he was living a life in another city far from his mother
Dev Sharma you can really see and feel ur age when this movie comes on TV. I just sit there and watch it like it was the first time as a kid. Omg im getting freaking old lmao
This is the first sign you see why John Connor would become a militairy commander. Most kids woulda just stood there and watch. But here he becomes extremely assertive and confident as he makes a tactical decision to protect the CPU and potentially sacrificing his hands. It wasnt just his friend, the Terminator was too powerful as a potential ally.
Considering that the T-800 was getting slapped around, it is still essentially their ONLY "Tank." Those two alone weren't going to put up a fight for long.
I think there was an out of universe reason for him saying that. Because that ain't no mirror. That is Linda Hamilton's twin sister working on Arnold while Linda Hamilton works on a dummy. Their movements had to be synchronous and Arnold saying "Do it" was a command for both of them to start.
andrew moore Man, I cant get over this, but isn’t sex with twins technically incest? I mean, it would be SUPER hot to actually do it, but I would just be weirded out by the twins fucking each other. What kind of up bringing do you have to have to think ‘Yeah, I wanna fuck a guy with my sister’?
Because it doesn't make sense, future John reprogrammed it and while he had the chip out he would have notice the two modes and their functions along with the reset switch and would have done it himself. By that point in the war he would have an extreme understanding of their software and hardware. Plus why would the terminators have this function and not use it.
@@ifedhimspaghetti unless they're also built to be sociopathic and strictly obedient, which they should have been. Lots of people can think but don't have empathy
Terminator 3 makes the first two Terminators pointless, and that one turned John into a useless junkie and had a female villain and a female character giving orders to the T-850, but nobody complained about muh SJW feminism back then because the world hadn't turned into a plague pit of festering tumor people yet
Agreed, it would've been way more interesting if she was left out. The idea that terminators will always exist and a "John Connor" will always exist to fight them, means it's all a long pointless battle of mutual destruction. Which is honestly an interesting analogy about war and humans connection with it.
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It's incredible how clean and crisp this film looks even 30+ years later, and the effects really stand up even today.
Its the kind of movie that you get when all of the people involved in the production actually care about what they are making.
It's part of filming on the right material. It's why you can get (some) 4k movies of old films, without too much upscaling.
Thought the same
Since Terminator 2, the effects have got progressively worse. Compare the T-800 from the intro of T2, to the CGI T-800s from later sequels. T2 makes the later efforts look like cartoons in comparison. Because that's exactly what they are.
Facts
I just love the detail of her saying "it makes you a more efficient killer" and he agrees. She remembers him chasing her and he can't remember it at all. Because it wasn't him.
Exactly, such a good detail. But I also think think that the Terminator would still agree with Sarah even if he did remember chasing her in the first movie. It would simply be a statement of a fact that wouldn't bother the Terminator in any emotional way.
@@Nick__1409 You're right, it wouldn't bother him at all, just good that they reset his chip and makes him a bit emotional. Also she remembers how scary he was while chasing her, is why she brings up that efficient killer line.
Karl
@@Nick__1409 it’s a different T-800 with same same human model, Arnold. He’s human model 101
Ok whatever
I love how when Connor lifts the terminator arm you can hear the servos in his arm moving. That's attention to detail.
It's not just servos moving - which are normally silent. It's the servos RESISTING being moved! Which if you think about it - is even BETTER attention to detail!
@@logandarklighter your 100% right. They should've kept that scene in the movie.
It’s when they made good movies
they did spend $100m making this movie.
@@logandarklighter you can hear them moving as well when the t800 is crawling to get the Grenade Launcher
I love how the reason the Terminator asked "was there a problem" at the end of the surgery when he is reactivated is because he noticed the Elapsed Time on his screen was 1:26, which was a lot longer than he was expecting. I didn't notice that until I reviewed this scene a couple years ago.
And he asks right after the text shows up, thats great
@@stickykeys7413and later he states, there is one more chip, knowing the significance of pointing out the access port to Sarah for the last time.
Although interestingly enough, at least 1 minute 52 seconds had elapsed in realtime.
Yeah, it's a great detail.
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"Pull to break the seal."
Well, there goes his warranty
Nah brah they didn’t get him wet I think they are still good.
I tried calling customer service to get a refund on my terminator, but they keep sending another back in time to try and kill me. Worst product ever, 0/10 😤😤.
I tried resetting the switch, but messed up. Now it won't stop speaking Spanish.
@@atheros69 have you tried wiggling it? XD
Please hold while I transfer your call (Terminator theme music plays)..
This is a KEY SCENE that should never have been left out of the movie. This is the scene in which the Terminator is freed up to actually begin learning. It's a great scene, and key to John and the Terminator bonding.
I only watch the longer version now.
While i like this scene, it makes sense why it was cut, resetting a T800 is dangerous and stupid.
It was a bad idea from this little brat, it could have backfired big time.
It was in the movie, as seen on British TV.
@@ianinkster2261must’ve missed it
“Doesn’t want you to think too much”
“Correct”
Even AI knows to not let its AIs get to smart/independent
It may start getting like the AI in certain video games, where they're supposed to be helping you and they're standing there saying "Ooh, look at the pretty clouds."
Happened in the Sarah Conner Chronicles. A T-1001 went rogue.
@@480JD Happens in real life, it's called religion. Not much thinking is allowed there or else you'll find out that it's all bullshit.
@@xxxod I guess you took “Edge 101” in college.
@GrapeSkoda As a religious person myself, i half agree. The other half is based upon fitra(human conscience nature). Some people call it "empathy". It's a general instinct that tells us which is right or wrong.
1:24 that part is just incredible. Tells you so much about Skynet. Doesnt even trust the terminators thinking on their own as a group incase they disagree with Skynet. Not wonder it decided humanities fate in a microsecond. But then what else can you expect from a defence computer that became self-aware: everything is either an enemy or a potential enemy.
It was also proven why the T-1000 is a VERY limited model. Due to its ability to be nanites, always changing its processor meant that it was more active, thus "thinking freely."
@@ajdominguez1002 Is that in the T2 novel? Still stuck on the T1 novel.
There was a myth spreading around that Skynet wasn't able to tell the difference between the army and the Soviet army. Like, enemies and allies. It thought everyone was an enemy. Another part of that myth was that Skynet came to the conclusion that starting a war was a mistake, probably because it lost.
I don't even think Skynet neccessarily had to be self-aware. It's a military application, the programming was probably just off. Self-awareness is not neccessary to have a system react like this.
@@identitymatrix based and AGI-pilled
Lore says that this was why Skynet didn't make more T-1000's - they went out read-write, and started to _enjoy_ what they were doing... Skynet was afraid of a coup.
4:30 Just noticed that the Terminator immediately knows there was an issue because of the time elapsed message on the top right of his HUD. He crosschecked the times and knew it shouldn't have taken so long to flip a switch.
You mean at 4:33 the elapsed time mark in his HUD
@obzen9503 Usually when I timestamp I add a few seconds so you don't have to immediately figure out what the heck is going on within a few microseconds
@@dsdy1205 I counted the seconds after the terminators deactivation, and the machine was off-line for longer than what the elapsed time says in his HUD
It’s actually more like 1 minute and 46 seconds.
Since I believe it’s a 10 second time skip between the shot were John Connor picks up the CPU from the toolbox, and then, the very next shot, where he reinstalls the component back inside of the Terminator.
@floridahighwaypatrol7713 well, it ain't a perfect system. I personally work with embedded systems that are supposed to track time elapsed when the system is off, but they can be off by up to an hour if you leave them off for a whiles.
“Was there a problem?” 😂😂😂
Her acting in this movie shouldve warranted her an Oscar. Seriously, she really does have the affect of someone whos suffered an insane shock and has been institutionalized. Amazing performance.
She has bipolar. So I think she uses her experience and struggles with it for her acting here.
@@ericglasgo7828 bipolar disorder is about going through consecutive manic and depressive mood swings, and not personality splits, hearing voices or anything like that.
No. She didn't deserve an Oscar. She's a good actress, but not distinguished
Linda Hamilton gave an Oscar worthy performance as a mad woman suffering from PTSD and psychological trauma.
If you call over-emotional worthy an Oscar that's fine. She did great in T1 but that acting style didn't do the trick in T2 anymore.
It’s funny that the terminator’s cpu can be accessed with common tools, yet here I’m struggling to fix my Nintendo DS without the stupid tri tip screwdriver.
Terminator is set in a timeline where right to repair won out by a large margin
military equipment or very expensive machine are generally made to by fixed more easily , it only the cheap stuff that is made to not be fixed so you have to buy new one
@@johnsmith-yj2cn Have you tried fixing any Apple products before?
TheSly442 the true cause of the war.
@@MrCakerape cheap as in cheap quality, not cheap as in cheap price.
Sarah Connor says he doesn't know what it's like to kill one of these things, but John somehow captured one and reprogrammed it AND sent it back to protect him. So I think the line to his mom saying that she should start listening to his leadership ideas was actually really powerful. This scene also explains why suddenly a machine learns to smile and joke around all of the sudden when he didn't up to this point.
yeah I like that line, minus the whole bs about "he is my friend", overall I'm ok with this scene cut.
This john didn't. This john is a punk kid, not the 40 year old battle harden vet.
@@darkzero79techincally he does know what it's to kill a Terminator he just hasn't done it yet. If none of this were true it would've been pointless to even protect him
At this point he doesnt know any of that
@@yaahlabanyamyan144 Thats not what TECHNICALLY MEANS.
The moment Sarah was about to destroy the CPU, I guess she forgot they were being chased by an even deadlier terminator.
@Time Lord they didn't cut the scene? It's still in the movie
@@deadasfboi it wasnt in the original cut in cinemas and on video for the US. Europe got it included in some cuts. This is all way back when.
It was cut in the original French version I can tell you. The one we had at the cinema.
She just got overwhelmed by her anger and fear of the Terminator after what happened in 1984.
It’s her PTSD acting out and PTSD’s aren’t exactly rational. She associate death and destruction with the T-800 model even though T-1000 is much deadlier. It’s a human thing.
Terminator: "Yeah, just pull out my CPU and hit the readonly switch"
John flips switch
Terminator: "Fooled you! That was the factory reset switch"
(T1 Police Station Assault OST)
lol If that happened, the T-800 would revert to it's basic standard programming and terminate any humans as the programming that the Resistance did on the CPU would of been wiped off.
Is he run on Linux or Android?
@@steliannikolov4163 quantum computer probably
@@IwinMahWay as a kid I imagined his "real" processor being like those in the Casio calculators. No joke ...
The fact this scene was removed from the theatrical version still shocks me. Such an amazing and emotional scene.
티미네이티있을까요?배운행
it ruins the flow IMO cool deleted scene though.
In a way, that scene gives a good lore to Dark Fate Sarrah, with her hate of Carl. And it gives Carl a higher praise for beeing able to bypass Skynet lock.
cause it wouldn't make sense because they are being pursued by an even deadlier terminator.
It's because of how lame the "he's my friend" line is delivered.. really grates.
Sarah paints an entire picture's worth of emotions in the few seconds after she pulls the switch. Incredible acting.
2:04 DON'T LOOK AT THE CAMERA, JOHN!!!
Idk why I laughed so hard but his face
@YounginLafond LMFAOOOOO
They brought in lindas twin for this scene. They have to learn to mirror each others movements for the mirror with no camera scene but john fucked it up and it got deleted. John fucked up
@@YON_RO if that was the case, it would be in the special edition directors cut but they have it as a deleted scene
lmaoo I never noticed that til reading your comment.
4:33 when the Terminator was back online it showed on his screen that he was offline for 1 min and 26 seconds.. that's why he asked was there any problem.. thats some good detail in this movie👏
🍷👍 Nice detail, bet only few noticed it. Thanks just had to go back to check that after reading your comment.
I noticed that detail, and I also noticed the detail when, later on during the chase, the T1000's actions in the helicopter causes the Terminator to drop one of the shells.
After a lot of jostling around and evasion and evasive maneuvers and shooting back, the Terminator reaches right back to where the shell fell. No mere human would have remembered that detail. They *might* have remembered that they dropped it, but they wouldn't know exactly where.
@@007Thanos007 After crashing into a crane at that steel mill, you'd think that shell would have been flung into the distance
yes but the dialogue and everthing else went on for 1 min 55 seconds - nice idea but they could of got this right but however not intrical to the story
Indeed. If you look closely at the CPU in the brief moment when Sarah looks at it, you can actually see the switch he mentioned on the chip, right below the metal tab, clearly visible. As such, it would have taken less than ten seconds to pull the chip out, flip the switch, and put it back in, which is another reason why he asked if there was a problem.
4:31 I love the detail of the T-800 keeping track of how long he was shut down, hence why he asked if there was a problem.
있을까요?티미이네티2배운행
Jeez. That's a good spot.
I've never really read the words on the Terminator's head's up display, but there seem to be some cool little details in there. For example, I've just realised that this one is Cyberdyne systems, series 800, model 101, version 2.4!
@@bowmaj8666 Meaning there are variations of the T800, maybe there's a version modeled after Peter Dinklage with a penis the size of his left leg.
great catch!
This scene is possibly the biggest reason why I'll only ever watch the director's cut. Why this 3 and a half minutes of footage was cut I'll never understand. It adds so much, letting you see just how much Sarah does not trust the T-800, but also how much she's willing to trust her son. And then later when Sarah is thinking to herself about how the terminator could be the best father figure John could have, her newfound trust in the terminator is so much more meaningful after seeing what all happened in the earlier garage scene.
because there was a risk of factory resetting the terminator by tinkering with his cpu....people would've questioned it.....Also if the terminator was supposed to have emotions then the future John Connor would've done that already
It's a good scene but it interrupts the pacing of the movie, and we already know that Sarah has intense distrust of the T800. And future John already reprogrammed the T800, so this is redundant.
@JitzyJT well as far as it is know this was the only T800 they ever successfully re programmed in this timeline
@@Bowiiihowdy Truth is, it also creates a plot hole. You are telling me they disabled the T-800, removed its data drive somehow, rewrote its code and then reinstalled it...and somehow never knew it had a 'develops emotions' switch on its cpu.
And important to note, *John* has also does this before since this already happened.
It also just makes far more sense that they used its own cpu to rewrite to the data to begin with, which would have required the switch.
@@fearedjamesdog not allowed ect
I still find it amazing how different Sarah is from the first movie. She went from a meek, terrified woman to a total badass. She's a bit psychotic but that's understandable considering everything she's been through and knows. Linda Hamilton is incredible.
Yes she is
@@parisbeech2180 in my mind why did the state hospital staff go with them on mission ti see she was not crazy and super robots exist they could have helped in Terminator g the cop believe them
@@JustinMacri007 umm it's called a script????
Yeah, THATS proper character development and brilliant acting. I miss the good old days when both male and female action heroes had proper development or they were established as veterans. Mary Sues like Dani Ramos are just so cringeworthy ("I vant to stend end feit!!" 🤮🤢).
@@TDKiller415 you couldn’t have said it any better. That’s why the franchise went to shit after the 2nd terminator. That and John Conor from 2 didn’t come back. They just went hella woke on the last one. Like cmon now. The women they put on the films was just a bad move. The build up to Sara Conor was just what made her even more badass and made it more believable.
3:42 arnie deserves an oscar for this acting
Sarcasm?
😂
He moved
Yupp
For staying still? Really? I can do that.
Fun fact: There is no mirror in this shot. Linda Hamilton is working on a special effects Arnold with it's back to the camera. Linda Hamilton's twin sister was with the real Arnold in the "mirror" across the shot. Also, Edward Furlong did not need a body double, because he was on meth at the time and was able to run fast enough to position himself between camera shots.
I lost it at the Edward Furlong fun fact xD
This comment had a better twist than the Sixth Sense
Wait...
D Dixon no cgi here!
Hahahaha brilliant!
3:54
"...so MOVE!"
What power Linda Hamilton has in her voice. Perfect casting and an incredible character arc from the demure, feminine young woman she was at the start of the first movie.
Bravo, Linda!
I assume you saw the original. She made a HUGE transformation from the first one to this one and it's even more amazing.
That was her main condition to doing the second film. She didn't want to return and play Sarah as cowardly or weak, all over again.
I can't believe he honestly let them remove his CPU, literally in direct conflict with his primary mission directive. Can't protect John if you're deactivated.
I think he actually in a way had no choice as it was suggested by John to do it, he has to listen to any instructions given to him by John even if it endangers the primary mission, such as saving Sara at the hospital and going back into town to try and stop her from killing Dyson later on in the film when they were safely near the Mexican border
@@shanes3060 Correct.
Absolutely. I guess that´s why they removed this scene from the final cut.
@@marianom5873 Exactly. it was an incongruity
Wait They remove this scene I still remember watching this scene on tv. Been aged
Terminator: Was their a problem?
John: Just mom wanted to smash your CPU when you were offline.
Terminator: Understandable.
Terminator : *holds peace sign*
Terminator : understandable. Have a great day.
Terminator: *drives off*
*both gets killed by T 1000*
He probably realised from his system clock that he was offline longer than he would have estimated.
@@ThePathStrider at 4:35 his display shows 1 minute 26 seconds offline when it would normally take less than 10 seconds to flip a switch on the cpu chip.
There
Lol
You know a film is a masterpiece when even the deleted scenes are all great.
@G E T R E K T This scene definitely was NOT in the Theatrical version.
It was DVD watching it as a kid
People overuse the hell out of that word, but this is a film deserving of that title. It is about as good as sequels ever get, and a good film in its own right.
I love how, after this moment, the terminator ceases to be just a machine
You can start hearing feeling, emotion in his voice, he starts smiling and making jokes
Anyone else always thought the Terminator's CPU looks like a bar of chocolate?
Then chocolate will.be our doom........
ME!! LOL
Raspberry flavoured
My son said that the other day
Nestle crunch lol
The way they shot the scene with the mirror without showing the camera is pretty ingenious. There is no mirror. That's a fake wall and the "mirror" is actually a hole into another part of the room that's just meant to look like the reflection. The real Arnold is on the other side, facing the camera, while the "Arnold" on our side is a dummy. The real John is on our side, facing the camera, while on the other side is a double, facing away so it's harder to tell it's not him. But what about Sarah? She's facing side-on, so you can see the side of her face on both sides of the mirror and you can tell it's her. The one on our side is Linda Hamilton. The one in the mirror is Linda Hamilton's IDENTICAL TWIN SISTER. The while setup is fucking rad.
What the fuck..? Seriously??? Holy cow that's elaborate for one shot. It is hard to hide cameras and crew in mirrors though, so I get why they had to do this.
@@Kriegsbeil5577 Also the special effects makeup is always added on top. It would be kinda tricky to make a 3 inch hole into Arnold's skull and make it look credible.
Yup, her sister Leslie. Leslie was also in the climactic scene in the steel plant where the T-1000 disguises itself as Sarah to fool John and the real Sarah tells him to get down. I guess whenever you see two Sarahs, one is Linda and one is Leslie.
They got it to work amazingly.
They also used _another_ set of identical twins for the "must be my lucky day" hospital guard.
M:I Rogue Nation did a similar in-camera mirror trick. Ingenuity is not dead yet!
All that just for the scene to be cut.
Sick acting from the Connors, really shows the fragility, fury and paranoia from Sarah and the innocence, kindness, strength and leadership potential from John.
And yet, they straight out yeeted john connor in dark fate
@@nathannael6124 Yes. And you know what, they can yeet him whatever ways they like, as long as us fans never accepting it and not going to see their crap cashgrab products.
I couldn't agree more!
Man, it hurts that they murdered the Terminator franchise with dark flop!!
😤😖😢
Yet *Dark Fate* just SHITS all over it....
That is one my reasons why John doesn't need to be killed off in Dark Fate.
I love the way Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong interact in this movie. They really behave like mother and son.
You spend 9 months with someone, almost every day, and you will eventually bond with them on some level. Its only natural.
A billion times better than me and my mom
That scene should have NEVER been removed from the main cut.
I've always seen the cut where this was removed and I'm glad I did. I think this scene is unnecessary and makes the terminator look awfully vulnerable.
@@noisevector My gosh. Vulnerability is exactly the point of the whole scene. T800 was a likeable character and he totally deserves the buildup. I'm glad that scene exists at least, makes you think and has excellent acting.
@@cybergothika6906 Not that early in the movie I think. It makes him look weak instead of the great protector. Skipping the whole chip removal scene and the laughing scene doesn't make him a less likable character in any way. He still learns to be more human towards the end.
Funnily enough, it wasn't removed outside the US. In Europe (or at least here in the UK) the Director's cut was the only version shown on TV and available on video. It was only once they started creating DVDs and used the US theatrical cut as the master copy that these scenes went missing.
It didn't im sure i saw this years ago as i remembered exactly what happened
"It's not a tumor."
At all
Boys have a
Good one...
No, its a neural net processor. A learning computer.
uuuultra ✔️ lmao best line in a movie when I was growing up, got in trouble many times just repeating it lmao
That fade-out scene where the terminator stands guard and doesn't move from his task while the hours slide by. Remember Reese in the car telling younger Sara ..."and it absolutely will not stop, ever...until you are dead" There is so much to love about T2
I love how when John asks him if it hurts when he’s shot, he’s like “I detect injuries, and you could call the data pain.” It just shows how out of touch with humanity he really is at this stage. Like pain is just a check engine light to him.
At least he doesn't get shot anymore for the rest of the film, only manhandled and beaten up badly by the T2000 at the end of the film which basically destroys him
@@MondayNightRAWsRKO2024-xk9ew He gets shot a shit ton more at Cyberdine by the swat team and the cops after his mini gun surprise. The bullets tore half his face off remember? And it's T1000 not 2000.
Pain for humans is more or less what the terminator says, nervous system data telling you that damage is being done to a certain part of the body.
pain is just signals in your body, dude. You're out of touch with yourself. Touch is also just signals being sent in your body.
Physical pain actually is like that for humans so your reaction is weird.
Elapsed Time Mark 00:01:26
Terminator: Was there a problem?
He knows that took longer than it should have.
You got that tight
elapsed time mark
Battery backup.
Attention to detail!
lol who puts a time stamp like that and then types *time elapsed mark*
Linda Hamilton’s twin Leslie was also in this scene: She is Sarah’s mirror image in this scene. Sadly, Leslie passed away unexpectedly in 2020 at age 63. Leslie was a nurse. 😢
I always wondered why her movements were so slow and methodical. That explains it, two people not looking at each other trying to copy movements. HA!
I didn't know that... 😔😭
Aww I didn't know she passed Rest In Peace Leslie
Oh I did not know that. RIP Leslie
😥😥😥😥😥😥
2:04 - John is looking at the camera.
Oh yeah
More like 2:05 ish
Yes!!
Wow nice find
🌤️ Where is the camera, I don’t see ? 😇 🙏 💛
My heart nearly dropped when Sarah almost destroys the CPU with the hammer. Gosh! Even the buildup that makes this scene become more shocking.
T800 is like the innocent visitor sitting in the living room while the psycho family argues in the kitchen 😂
Nicholas Chen ohh i can relate to that.
The fact that you call a fucking terminator “innocent” kills me 😂
Too real...
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@@crazy4sian you want to watch movies nd Tv show? Just follow @Sorian Michaelson
I love how everything feels so real and not like CGI garbage.
Its like "The Thing"
It's not cgi, it's a dummy
CGI should only be used to enhance practical effects
The CGI was used for the T-1000. Actually, it still holds up well even today.
@@warlockpaladin2261 The T-1000 was actually done with a mix of CGI and practical effects. Thats why it holds up well even today.
“Makes you a more efficient killer right?”
“Correct”
All terminator models ever: *has multiple opportunities to crush a throat or punch a hole through the heart. Chooses to throw targets around.
Not in T1 or T2 and has far as I'm aware there were no subsequent Terminator movies.
Well “don’t want you to think too hard”
Salvation tho
Only in the garbage sequels that followed T2
To be fair, those throws should have killed them (or at least paralyze them). But plot armor is stronger.
using the sound of a slow moving drill when John moves the T800's arm is genius foley
I wonder how much of Michael Biehn's performance influenced Linda here. Sarah has all the hallmarks of Reese's traumatized personality; you can see it in her eyes when John's trying to talk her down. Steely and resolute when working, crazed expression and jerky movements when someone gets in her way. She's truly become Reese: a hardened warrior, desperate to do anything against things she's seen that nobody else could possibly understand, and amplified beyond him as a mother protecting her child. Linda at least deserved an Oscar nod for this fantastic job.
In the director's cut there are like 3 scenes where kyle talks to her and Michael reprised the role. But they too were cute
She didn't become Kyle Reese. Kyle was no where near as violent and mentally broken as Sarah is here. He was a lot more calm and rational with more self control. Sarah flies off the handle in almost every scene in T2.
@@ericglasgo7828 true, but Kyle still had his fair share of PTSD. I mean, how could he not?
@@SKBottom not saying he doesn't have PTSD just saying he had more of a grip on it. He would of had to in order to get the job done wether it's to protect Sarah or fight a war.
Its a good thing she didn't, would've put her in a vulnerable position to have the shit slapped out of her without consequence and the assailant have a standing ovation shortly after.
That was a really deep line by John to his mom. How is he supposed to be this great military leader if his own mother won't listen to him?
Damn, that's powerful.
Not really, that's just a manipulative little kid move.
@@Guitarisforgrins Manipulation and Persuasion are two very different things.
@@Guitarisforgrins a little kid doesn’t even know what manipulation means
@@higaiwokeru kid felt emotion for t800 and had a strong emotion that he's there to protect him, pretty simple
He's a smart kid. Hes been well taught and looked after by Sarah, Enrique and co. I imagine John would've excelled in school if he attended. Remember, he was supposed to meet Kate Brewster for a make out sesh and he wanted to go to the arcade with his buddy. A total bro lol
Love how John refers to the terminator being a stone cold killer with a very militaristic disposition as being a "dork"
Well duh they are dorks. Lol ever hear special forces tell you how they do things? It's like a dork explaining dungeons and dragons 🤓🤓
@@revolverocelot1380 I'd say they're diplomatic. They are robotic and emotionless in how they deliver words unless trying to change up (like the t-1000 does) will help them to infiltrate better. Think of them like soldiers. They are some of the most polite people you ever want to meet, but if they were in a way situation that same super polite soldier can put a bullet in the heads of an entire family.
@@robinabernathy2829 I was mostly joking I know.
And " My Friend "
2:04 John's eye just slips to the camera for a millisecond..
Holy shit.... I actually don't remember this scene... this is one of my favorite movies of all time and I've never seen this scene.
NOW IT MAKES SENSE WHY T-800 WAS ABLE TO DEVELOP EMOTION AT THE END
You didn't saw it because it was cut :0
The same thing happened with me
This is the Director's cut
It was only in the special edition. It was cut from the theatrical release. But so far as I know it's canon now.
I've seen this scene back when it was released on VCR tape
Didn't know it was cut.
Why on earth anyone would cut this beauty??
@@josealejandropalomogonzale5299 I don't understand either. This changes the story so much imo.
At 3:47 Sarah Connor: "You don't know what it's like to try to kill one of these things"
John Connor: "Mom, let me tell you about my day at the Galleria"
😂😂😂😂😂
She already knows, from the prison bars scene
@CST1992 im pretty sure she got too emotional and forgot about the fact that John has already encountered a T-1000
“Ok, done, putting the CPU back in”
Linus: “wait, let’s overclock it”
haha he totally would
No Linus would just drop it in a clumsy way, because Linus :D
Haha! He would drop that shit and break it.
He would watercool the Terminator first
It's funny how easy it was for them to remove and reattach this CPU. Even though CPU's in real life have a lot more steps in assembling and typically requires special tools and not these common ones.
If you freeze the T-800's vision at 4:34 it will tell you the elapsed time it was shut off, which is why the T-800 asked them if there was a problem...
that's a cool mirror effect of 3 double actors
It was a really ingenious way to do the scene with practical effects and it still holds up. It reminds me if the hotel room eyeball scene from the first terminator though with that its pretty obviously a molded prosthetic.
Actually two doubles and one prosthetic dummy.
@@mickgrey8056 Hey, Arnold’s acting isn’t that bad!
@@mickgrey8056 You’re so mean! 😂
They used Linda's twin for the acting, so the camera would not get seen in postproduction.
Linda Hamilton such a good actress. She's a complete different character in t2 vs v1. Not a single trace of her innocence is left
Also, no trace of her bra was left either. Not complaining, just saying.
@@bobby1970 Flat-chested? She's not huge, for sure, but saying flat-chested is just wrong.
Respectfully, I disagree. There's small traces of it left in the film, such as when she breaks down crying in front of Dyson's family after realizing he's not responsible for Skynet at that point. Linda completely sold both sides of that whole scene, going from someone who's almost a Machine in her own mind, to having her sanity restored when she sees the genuine fear on her victim's face.
Single scene and Linda's acting is way better than her dark fate part.
"Correct."
I mean it helps when you are working with a script written by human beings
Negative
@@NYG5 as opposed to robot David Goyer who was in fact programmed by Skynet to ruin movies
Affirmative
Exactly! Fuck that selfish greedy movie! Them fools in Hollywood make no damn sense.
They did need the terminator... no way in hell they were gonna beat the t-1000 without the t-800.
She mistook the T-800 for the T-101 from the first movie lol
@@Dee_Nice89 They’re both T800 Series Model 101 Terminators.
@@tiger_lord305 She thought it was the bad Terminator
I think she simply doesn't trust terminators or skynet period add to the fact it looks like the one that stalked and tried to kill her and also killed kyle and well its more then understandable in fact if she was chummy or comfortable with it that would have been a major red flag to me at least@@Dee_Nice89
@@Dee_Nice89yep - PTSD
It's chilling when she said "You don't know what's like to try to kill one of this things" at 3:50. That's show Sarah still consumed by her traumatic experience from the first Terminator.
Still she must to understand that this cyborg is their important weapon against T1000, and sended by her son from future for reason.
shes right though, i wouldnt of been able to trust that thing either lol. hell of a risk if it goes back to its original programming
@@ArtofLunatik the original mission programming was likely completely erased by the resistance. The resistance just kept parts of the original programming, like the robot controllers, and all that. But the original mission directive code was wiped and re-written
3:56 - I always loved this moment where it hits home to Sarah that her son is right about his decision making skills…..
¨Was there a problem?¨
Yeah...it´s called Dark Fate
Actually, that movie is fine. Great, even. Problem is fanboys.
@@NeoConnor1 The movie might be great to you but not to me. The T-800 has a family and sells drapes? Hell no!
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz Okay. They explained why he did it in the film, and Arnold made the very idea of that funny, but whatever. I am just tired of the dark fate bashing. If you don't like the film, fine. But people need to stop being so nasty towards it.
@@NeoConnor1 It´s a free country and a free world I can speak my mind and bash a film if it pleases me just like you can defend it
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz Yeah, you have that right, as your lack of eloquence put so delicately. But no one has the right to criticize someone they don't know, and no one deserves to be demeaned because of their gender or nationality, which is what I constantly see people doing with this film. Aren't all human beings born with the same rights as everyone else?
Man Stan Winston's practical makeup effects, Puppetry and Prop design were just absolutely amazing in this film. Still to this day I love the T-800's design, down to every little detail. It's so cool to see how the Neural Net Processor is completely protected with so many layers.
That design is so perfect it barely changed in a 35 year timespan. Stan Winston is a god amongst men.
What I really fucking love is that the neural net processor has the layers of squares. If you look at the architectural diagrams of tesnor core cpus (ie, gpus) that's pretty much what it looks like, even if the chip itself is shaped differently to how they actually look. Tensor core cpus are massively faster than standard CPUs for neural networks because can more efficiently resolve matrix math.
For reference, the modern concept of AI is decades old and was limited by hardware. Most of the basic concepts around neural networks and tensor core cpus existed at the time of this movie.
I have no idea if this shits luck, probably is. But if it was it's a great moment of luck.
Can we reset the switch so I can unlearn about all the garbage sequels made after this
@@generaloberstmoon9876 Yeah 3 is ok. 2 is definitely the best one hands down. I actually liked Salvation. Genesis is tolerable. Haven't seen Dark Fate yet.
I liked the weird terminator designs in Salvation, like the bike terminators and the eels. The rest of the sequels seem to just reuse the t-800 and liquid metal / morphing ability but slightly changed, Genisys and Dark Fate are guilty of that.
@@doudymac
In Dark Flop, John Conner is murdered and the T-800 goes on to live a mediocre, ordinary life and he appears just a short time and the rest SUCKS.
No John Conner, No Arnold Schwarzenegger, No SkyNet EVER EXISTED.
They replaced John to some mexican girl, the T-800 to a SJW-1000, SkyNet to thing called, Legion. All that hard work to save John....for NOTHING....!😡
They'll never get my money! I'll never support (dark flop) that sorry excuse for a movie!! 😤
They Ruined Dark Fate With That Questionable Woman Which Looks Like Ellen, And Cannot Be Taken Seriously lol
Exactly....
I still wanna know how they reset the switch. Was there just a tab like on SD Cards that you flip up to set to read-only.
Since they couldn't access it digitally there must be a mechanical reset. Also, John is talking about a pin switch.
you can see the switch on the chip when they take it out
You pull the catridge out first, blow it 3 times real quick, then put it back into the slot.
Jumper switch, like on a mobo.
And if you fill the CPU cavity with liquid nitrogen you can overclock your terminator! Makes them buggy though, and who wants that..
Can’t believe they really killed this John Connor pisses me off.
What the hell? Really? When?
@@claycarmine7466 dark fate
It's not canon.
Exactly, his character is what gave T2 it's human compassion feel and helped make the franchise what it was. They totally disregarded all of that when they killed him at the beginning of Dark Fate. As if he never mattered
What do you mean
To be honest, T-800's CPU looks like mini-chocolate bar.
Always thought that when I was a kid.
"Some stay dry and others feel the pain"
It's made by IBM.
I want to eat....😋😋😋
It’s a Raspberry Pi.
In John's defense, he turned out to be right. In Sarah's defense, you don't know what it's like to kill one of these things... at least in the first three movies.
His decisions are more important for the future then her personal feelings. So she definitely needed to start to let him take the lead with shit.
3:18 i love how john reacts
있을까요?티미이네티2배운행
@@배운형-d7j ok
@@배운형-d7j,
soka
The transformation of sarah connor in the second movie is so real, i can totally buy it...i rewatched terminator 1 just yesterday and reese actually talks about how sarah learned john everything while still a child...such attention to detail, amazing...two different movies , one is horror thriller and the other is an action blockbuster but the transition is so seamless, perfect...cameron truly is a master...
Love how Cameron saved on loads of digital effects and money in this scene by the fact of just simply using Linda's twin sister as if she is her mirror opposite-simple, saving on cash and did the job perfectly!! 👍👏👏
Also, it helped a lot that Arnold had tons of empty space in his cranium which made it easy for special effects to insert the CPU housing prop.
"I have detailed knowledge of human anatomy... I just like to throw people around instead of crushing their windpipes immediately."
Devs really need to step up with the AI, smh.
He has detailed files of human anatomy but didn't know what crying was. Ok.
@@gearsofwar3xXx Human anatomy as in how to kill them, not how humans get weepy-eyed when they're sad.
@@windowsVD Sorry, I guess I missed the part where the Terminator felt the overwhelming need to explain exactly what he meant.
Killing people fast vs. throwing them around is a deliberate choice by its psychological warfare module. It evaluates the situation and if there is some SFX-budget left, he throws his opponents around instead of killing them. That's why the first movie was the best, not enough budget to weaken the villain. ;)
“Pull to break the seal.”
“I can’t it’ll void the warranty.”
If skynet sues you for warranty fraud it's never pretty lol.
Matty Ice Nope 😂😂😂😂😂
Do not break Terminator seal. No user serviceable parts inside.
I think the warranty was already voided when they hacked it and sent it to this timeline to protect John
@@mattyice2099 You think Skynet's Terminators are bad?
Wait till you see it's lawyers....
1:34 I noticed how that knife looks exactly like the same knife the T-800 used in the first film to fix his eyes.
Some said Arnold caught a big headache later after this shot.
'It might be a tumour' 'It's not a Toomah!
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@@razer0072073 chill out
dickwad
@@razer0072073 That's how Arnie speaks.
@@razer0072073 "who is your daddy and what does he do"
@@crashpal is he a wrestler
Resets the pin switch "erases all resistance programming" puts cpu back in with restored factory settings "terminate john connor" lol sara be like i told you not to trust IT !!!
😂😄
@@NicholasPeters1 lol its kinda funny when u think about it :P
If that was possible he would tell them cuz it's conflicts with his main mission "Defend John Conor" though to let them get to CPU conflicts with it either.
@Dominic KEKW yes because every place casually has enough acid to melt a terminator. Not to mention it was molten steel
The chip was probably completely wiped clean before-hand, so even if resetting it erased the resistance programming, the T-800 would just end up having no mission and not know anything. He would basically be like a robot baby.
This scene is great because you see how a childish teen starts tranforming into THE John Connor.
Rational cold thinking, traits of a good leader.
Great script.
Traits of a machine.
I know now why you cry but it is something I can never do.
I disagree. He's acting on emotion. Plus, him thinking that being a great leader when he's 30 means he should be trusted as such when he's 10. Not smart.
Weird that Sarah falls for that one. Maybe she separately came around to thinkin it's not such a bad idea anyhow.
@@nthgth He is acting on emotion because he has come to see the Terminator as a friend, yeah, but he also makes some very good rational points there. Plainly speaking, everything he says it's true: Without the T-800 they don't stand a chance against the T-1000 and it's also the only proof they have of the future that's going to pass (it's literally how they convince Dyson to help them prevent Skynet's birth). Also, if not even his mother will listen to him, who will? That last line is what finally makes Sarah relent.
Also, Sarah isn't really acting rationally at all there. She is merely trying to destroy the T-800 based on her own fear and resentment of the prior model that tried to kill her. But she has seen what the T-1000 is capable of at this point. Destroying the best ally they have against that more advanced model is just stupid, period.
It's also important to consider that the rest of the movie does makes you understand how Jon could grow to become a good leader. He is compassionate but also crafty and a quick thinker.
He really starts on that path when he realizes how much his actions have consequences when he sics the terminator on a guy only for the terminator would try to kill the guy. He starts to get real and serious at that point.
It's incredible how clean and crisp this film looks even 30+ years later, and the effects really stand up even today!!
Imagine if the t1000 came while the chip was out.
That was dark
Or if they sent the T-1000 back in 1984 instead of Arnold
Lol they would’ve been in trouble😂😂😂
Suddenly good guy John as T3000 comes and saves the day
@@tommyallen4683 I'm suprised that they didn't do that. Since time travel is a thing it doesn't matter when the T-1000 was made.
I love how John is in this scene, stopping his Mom from destroying the Terminator. You can just tell how he speaks to his mother that he'll be a great leader. This is why I didn't watch the newest Terminator movie. 3:35
Also she does realize there's a liquid metal Terminator after them right?
4:19 plot twist: Sarah wanted to hit it, but she missed and covered it up by saying "play it your way" xD
Sarah: You're no good to us if you can't pass for human".
Also Sarah: "Deglove your entire forearm and permanently expose your robot hand for them to see."
I love how everything looks so tactile and feels intimate, not the shiny CG we get these days.
Special effects still hold up👌
They used doubles. It’s all practical.
Today, we call that "practical effects". And the realism of them is why J.J. Abrahms went that route for a lot of what he (and Rian Johnson) did in the Star War sequel trilogy. Hell, they even used real film instead of digital!
This scene was way too important to have been deleted, I always wondered how a futuristic robot killing machine learned human emotions while becoming a Stepfather. They really, really needed to leave this scene in the theatrical release.
In the theatrical release they simply replaced the scene with a dialogue of the T-800 saying that he adapts to human behaviour because of the neural net processor. This extra scene was just made for some eye candy and to show how Sarah feels about the situation.
You’re *too important!*
Sarah:"IT, John, not him. IT."
John:"Ok, IT. But we need IT."
IT (Pennywise):" Did someone mention needing me?" *Dances into the room*
This needs more likes!
Sweet Candy Suga Army Now I'm wondering if a terminator could kill Pennywise
I mean, he's weakened by lack of fear, and a machine is incapable of fear...
Sarah and John Connor: (in unison) *SHUT UP, PENNYWISE!!!!*
How has this comment not receive many likes?
IT is more scary than a terminator. Shudder
0:32 Always loved this bit when John lifts the bullet riddled jacket up and the light shines through the holes
"Can we reset the switch?"
*"Hello my name is Carl and I run a drapery business"*
"Can we reset the switch back?"
Lol yes
@Mike Driggs the fact that John Connor was killed makes the movie bad, terminator fans want a terminator movie where we see John Connor leading the human to victory during 2029 and the movie ends with humanity rebuilding itself
@Mike Driggs And that makes you superior? We don't dislike movies to just hate on them. Dark Fate killed John Connor after all.
killing john connor like that was dumb. If they didn't want him in the film they could just say that he was living a life in another city far from his mother
@Mike Driggs You're not a real Terminator fan are ya? Dark fate was garbage.
*This movie brings back the childhood memories of 90's kids.*
Yes it does 😭
Dev Sharma you can really see and feel ur age when this movie comes on TV. I just sit there and watch it like it was the first time as a kid. Omg im getting freaking old lmao
This movie had a huge impact on that summe
So true. this movie takes me back to my earliest memories. best Terminator movies were the first two.
This is the first sign you see why John Connor would become a militairy commander. Most kids woulda just stood there and watch. But here he becomes extremely assertive and confident as he makes a tactical decision to protect the CPU and potentially sacrificing his hands. It wasnt just his friend, the Terminator was too powerful as a potential ally.
Considering that the T-800 was getting slapped around, it is still essentially their ONLY "Tank." Those two alone weren't going to put up a fight for long.
at 3:03 you can hear the servos in the T-800's arm as John moves it.
I love when John says "He's my friend!"
When he said “do it”
I felt like he was excited for the switch. Like he knew he’d be better.
I think there was an out of universe reason for him saying that.
Because that ain't no mirror. That is Linda Hamilton's twin sister working on Arnold while Linda Hamilton works on a dummy. Their movements had to be synchronous and Arnold saying "Do it" was a command for both of them to start.
Terminator: do it
Palpatine: *dew it*
Fun fact: Linda's twin sister is in mirror image with real Arnold.
And she was in the nuclear explosion scene too
Exactly.
@StreamerGeo look at her hand in the mirror. It doesn't move the same.
andrew moore Man, I cant get over this, but isn’t sex with twins technically incest? I mean, it would be SUPER hot to actually do it, but I would just be weirded out by the twins fucking each other. What kind of up bringing do you have to have to think ‘Yeah, I wanna fuck a guy with my sister’?
Isaac Shaun alright back to the cave for you
4:41, another example of subtle acting.
This is actually a pretty important scene and it's incredibly well acted with great special effects. Why would you cut this scene out of the movie?
Because it doesn't make sense, future John reprogrammed it and while he had the chip out he would have notice the two modes and their functions along with the reset switch and would have done it himself. By that point in the war he would have an extreme understanding of their software and hardware. Plus why would the terminators have this function and not use it.
@@ericglasgo7828 Because every thinking entity, given sufficient time and access to this function, will develop empathy.
Lots of good scenes get cut simply for time
@@ifedhimspaghetti unless they're also built to be sociopathic and strictly obedient, which they should have been. Lots of people can think but don't have empathy
@@nthgth True, we'll have to make sure we don't subtly haze the machines for most of their lives
2:50 It reminds me when I saw a naked woman for the first time.
The amount of equal energy being told from this comment is to true😂😂😂
@@Jesuschrist-qm1fj hello
Linda Hamilton never should have came back for Terminator Dark Farce. Killing off John makes the first 2 Terminators pointless indeed!
Exactly 😔😑
Feminism baby!
Terminator 3 makes the first two Terminators pointless, and that one turned John into a useless junkie and had a female villain and a female character giving orders to the T-850, but nobody complained about muh SJW feminism back then because the world hadn't turned into a plague pit of festering tumor people yet
Agreed, it would've been way more interesting if she was left out. The idea that terminators will always exist and a "John Connor" will always exist to fight them, means it's all a long pointless battle of mutual destruction. Which is honestly an interesting analogy about war and humans connection with it.
No Dark Fate is what was pointless and Dark Fate is what made Dark Fate pointless alone
0:37
John: Does it hurt when you get shot?
(Skips to 10 seconds later)
Terminator: yes
Terminator: yes
Sarah: good
@@mr.foogle3004
Terminator: It won't kill or slow me down though!
Sarah: 😒 SHit!
Cameron and Arnold so much argued for this scene to be included in the theatre version.
They're dumb
Glad it got brought back for the Directors Cut.
the directors cut version is pure garbage..
@@robertblowstein7291 No.
@@robertblowstein7291 why
2:44 - The origin of "chocolate chip".
Love that this and other scenes were put back in the Directors Cut on the DVD! The movie felt more complete with meaningful moments like this.
Can we all take a second to appreciate how good an actress Leslie Hamilton, Linda's identical twin sister (RIP 2020) is?
RIP
It looks Like she's giving him a haircut.
When he goes back online she slaps him and says “I like ya cut, G!”