I love that Soresu is the most defensive form as you pointed out. It compliments how Obi wan fights in episodes 2 and 3. You can clearly see this in his fight with Dooku in AOTC and his fights against Grevious and Anakin in ROTS
@GetShaftedBuddy In the Revenge of the Sith novel, both Obi-Wan and Anakin switched up styles during the duel with Dooku. Of course, in that case they deliberately used forms that were less than ideal to trick Dooku.
@@zakkmylde1712 yeah and he had a definite connection to the force, but he wasn't as strongly connected naturally as plo, I would say he was perhaps a better scholar of the force though
I would love a Star wars type of game where you can choose your fighting style, your force abilities you wanna master, go on missions keeping the peace for the republic. I basically want the Hogwarts game for the ps5 but star wars
I love how in the Brotherhood novel, Kenobi's fighting style is described as an elegant dance of violence, and Anakin's fighting style is just the unrelenting destruction as if from a tank.
Fun Fact: While Maul normally used Form 7/Juyo, (a very ferocious and aggressive form of combat) when he faced against Darth Sidious alongside Savage in The Clone Wars, he immediately went with Form 3/Soresu. This was a good touch showing the genuine fear Maul had for his former master.
In the Kenobi show, it shows in the last fight with Vader that Ben can be offensive as well. He even did the behind the back twirl, often seen as Anakin’s move, which shows that Kenobi was the one who taught Anakin his moves in the first place. The dude really was THE master.
The form itself was meant to be purely defensive in technique. I've always seen this (and vice versa with every other form) to mean that the learning the form puts all of your focus into learning defense, but doesn't limit the user to pure defense for using it. It wouldn't surprise me that someone who focused on Serisu would also learn compatible offensive techniques to fill the void that the form has in that field. Obi-Wan is the obvious example in this. Focusing on Serisu would mean that yes, he's way more defensive than offensive, but doesn't necessarily mean that the Jedi/Sith themselves have no way to go offensive in this form through use of other compatible techniques. "Lacking kill moves" is a limit of the Form, not the Jedi using it - at least that's how I always saw Lightsaber Forms.
@@solugad Right. Plus we know Obi-Wan was VERY proficient in form IV from his padawan days. Not too far fetched that he made sure to train up his offense for the eventuality that Soresu wouldn’t be enough.
You can't deny how badass Obi-wan Kenobi is with the form Soresu. In the Clone Wars, whenever he uses this form one of the first scenes that came to mind are the three different fights scenes that he had throughout the series. Once in the Clone Wars movie when facing Ventress, once in S2 when fighting Pre Vizla and his team of Mandolorian from Death Watch, and once in S4 when Darth Maul has resurfaced and challenges Obi-wan for a rematch.
His fight against maul and savage on i think florum was masterful. took them both down in that hallway. They were literally running from him as Hondo stated lol
Loved the Soresu breakdown, hearing about the different lightsaber fighting forms is always fun! Would love to see a theory on What If Maul was Grand Inquisitor, and see how you think he and Vader would get along working together.. Cheers!
@@bigmonke1449 Hahaha, yessir! Jedi Master? Isaac! You seek Isaac! Lmao, all jokes aside, yeah I swing my saber around every once and awhile for fun 😁👊
I would like to know the combination of lightsaber forms, specifically if it’s better to be a master of one or skilled in each form to adapt to different situations. I know Anakin used Jar’Kai in his first duel with Dooku as to give him an edge. A sort of surprise if you will to the opponent, as Obi-Wan knew Anakin wouldn’t be able to hold off Dooku with just Form V.
Please make one about Trakata!! The most forgotten of all forms, igniting and retracting your saber to your advantage (Darach's way of killing Malgus' Master, Darth Vindican). Lightsabers are retractable (vs. traditional sword fighting) and I wish both sides used it to their advantage more (even though apparently the Sith are too proud)... imagine your lightsabers are about to clash and you sneakily retract your saber, dodge and immediately have a quick window to take down your opponent. Or mid-saber clash, retracting and dodging in a split second would throw off your opponents balance so effectively! With double-sided weapons (as Darach did), you can ignite that second side at a moments notice and totally catch your enemy by surprise. BTW, Love your content for years now, and thank you so much for bringing positive and inclusive vibes to the fandom!!!
Whats great about soresu is that its one of most of practical and easiest forms to use. You dont have to be acrobatic like yoda to use it. Soresu is all about defense, and its ready stance reflects that. From jedi knight academy. Soresu means your lighstaber should be held in a tight neutral guard or close to your body. Lightsaber held in front of you aligned with your belly so you can easily block from all angles. If you play something like vader immortal vr, its a great game to practice soresu. You would also find out how practical soresu it is.
I love content relating to lightsaber combat so much; it's one of my biggest obsessions within the Star Wars universe. I'm personally more partial to Form II: Makashi for it's elegance, balance (physical and mental) and purist expression of the lightsaber as an exotic weapon of swordsmanship; the reverence for duelling as evident with Count Dooku (his lightsaber design also being my favorite next to Qui-Gon's). Of course, I love all forms for different reasons, and feel it's highly beneficial to know at least one or two additional forms in conjunction with a preferred specialty in order to compensate for inherent weaknesses, or to complement a certain strength.
This reminds me how much I love Qui-Gon and how he was a big part of what Obi-Wan became. -------------- (Master and Apprentice, Claudia Gray, 2019.) Just before Obi-Wan would leave the room, Qui-Gon said, "Once, you asked me about the basic lightsaber cadences. Why I'd kept you there, instead of training you in more advanced forms of combat." Obi-Wan turned reluctantly to face him again. "I suppose you thought I wasn't ready for me. The same way I'm not ready to believe in all this mystical__" "That's not why." After a long pause, Obi-Wan calmed to the point where he would listen. "Then why, Qui-Gon?" "Because many Padawans - and full Jedi Knights, for that matter - forget that the most basic technique is the most important technique. The purest. The most likely to protect you in the battle, and the foundation of all knowledge that is to come," Qui-Gon said. "Most apprentices want to rush ahead to styles of fighting that are flashier and more esoteric. Most Master let them, because we must all find our preferred form eventually. But I wanted you to be grounded in your technique. I wanted you to understand the basic cadences so well that they would become instinct, so that you would be almost untouchable. Above all, I wanted to give you the training you needed to accomplish anything you set your mind to later on." -------------- (Revenge of the Sith novelization, Matthew Stover, 2005.) There is an understated elegance in Obi-Wan Kenobi's lighsaber technique, one that is quite unlike the feel one might get from the other great swordsbeings of the Jedi Order. He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elen of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become. He is simplicity itself.
Qui Gon, Obi Wan, and Anakin’s forms fit their characters and their philosophies so well. Form 4 is aggression while relying on the force to guide you, once you commit to a move you have to see it through regardless of the outcome you are at the mercy of the move. Qui Gon adhered to the living force above all else even if it lead to his demise. Form 3 is defensive until an opportunity presents itself to counter, even with blaster deflected never reflected. Obi wan adhered to the Jedi code even when the truth was presented he didn’t take the opportunity to strike first and it cost the Jedi and the republic. Too much defense without offense only delays the inevitable. Form 5 is Aggressive taking the fight to the enemy returning their strikes with heavy counters. Anakin is an aggressive duelist hammering away his opponents defenses hatefully, passionately, fearfully ultimately leading to his downfall to the darkside.
2:55 That could be another reason why Obi-Wan never killed Vader despite having the chance on two occasions. Additionally, it would explain how Maul managed to survive for so long.
I think my favorite use of Kenobi's brilliance was his final duel with Maul, he opens up with his Soresu but then switches to Ataru, pretty sure he got inside mauls head with that stance but in the middle of 3 movements switches back to Soresu and ends the fight. beautiful. I think there was a coversation between Windu and some one else talking how Obi is THE master of form 3, is it better to be a master of a traditional form or to be a master of a new form (Vapaad)
I would love to see an analysis video on what lightsaber form would have better suited an aging Kenobi. Maybe a theory video where Kenobi secretly learns Vaapad from Windu before his death.
I was all about the 3 forms when I dominated on Jedi Outcast and Academy back on PC. The good old days. Best lightsaber combat in a video game ever done
I got form four on Leia's Lair quiz, so I'm excited to hear your breakdown of that form in particular. I also want to know more about form 7 because it's my second favorite.
Ah i am first Form 1: Shii-cho Form 2: Makashi Form 3: Soresu Form 4: Ataru Form 5: Shien & Djem so Form 6: Niman Form 7: Vaapad or Juyo And i said all of these by memory. Why did i do this... cuz i am bored
Obi Wan was definitely a calm and collective fighter, this style definitely fits him. I’ve always had a question that’s off subject, where were the temple guards during order 66? Did Anakin/Vader kill them? Or did the 501st overwhelm them? Always been super curious about them.
Really shows how Grievous would have easily killed Obi Wan if he didn't have plot armor One sword can block one sword, all Grievous had to do was force him to block and attack him with his three remaining free arms, easy
Count Dooku recognized that Obi-Wan had become the master of form 3 as well when they fought, he also recognized that not only was he ridiculously good defensive, but he would switch to form 2 and form 4 offensively against the count as well
Man I gotta say one could argue that Darth Bane won when reading the book and how it ended lol. He was having a problem with his right arm the entire time and once the essence transfer was complete Darth Zanna was clinching her right hand opening and closing it as if it felt weird to have the pain gone from the body. So it makes for good conversation thats for sure lol.
I think Obi Wan should have been swapped with Boba Fett in the Obi Wan show. Imagine Boba Fett saving Leia only to hunt her down in the empire strikes back. It's like poetry, it rhymes. I do like having more Obi Wan but if feels like disney doesn't think their shows through
@StarWarsTheory Love the information on this. Thank you also for your recommendation of “Dath Plagueis” Audiobook….it was absolutely an incredible adventure.
Obi Wan was really the perfect Jedi (as perfect as someone can be) it helped that Qui-Gon was one of the best pure Jedi and then Anikan was the opposite so he was exposed to both sides and was able to use either side when needed
Can imagine as a Jedi gets older due to how incredibly brutal, an vicious, an taxing, Saber battles, even if they're just duels.. there comes a time when old Jedi just CAN'T handle fighting and combat tasks anymore. Even if THAT was their specialty and what they was known for in their prime an early years. Since we saw SO MANY old Jedi Masters an knights far from the front lines. Like the Librarian Jocasta, Yoda after awhile on his death bed meant his dueling days had to have been long done, an in this video just shows Kenobi's prime by the Original Trilogy was long over too. Imagine in some alternative verse even extremely powerful and gifted saber fighters like Mace and Anakin in some alternative reality eventually got way too old to effectively swing their blades anymore an basically became the next Sin Dralic or Jocasta Nu
You should make a video on why Vader never went looking for R2-D2. After revenge of the sith? He went out of his way to retrieve R2 once during the clone wars.
Even though this doesn't have anything to do with this particular video, for some reason watching it got me thinking, why didn't the clones turn on Anakin during order 66? I mean I know that he was technically Sith at that point, and was also technically Darth Vader, but I doubt the clones would have knows about that second one since it was established to have been a secret Vader wouldn't have wanted known. You couldn't even argue that because he wasn't a Jedi anymore that they didn't see him as a target, since they still went after Ahsoka and Maul, and neither of them were Jedi. Is it possible the Sith had built in immunity to the order? When Palatine issued order 66 to Rex he responded by saying "Yes, Lord Sidious". Rex shouldn't have know Palpatine was Sidious, not unless that information was built into the inhibitor chips. I wonder how the particulars of that work... Anyone got any thoughts on this?
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
In my personal opinion, as good as Kenobi is at form 3. I think it is his downfall during SOME fights not all. In the phantom menace we see Obi Wan go against maul using the aggressive form 4 and show absolutely insane lightsaber combat feats. Then in episode 2 he uses form 3 and gets his ass handed to him by Dooku. In AOTC he didn't seem nearly as good as he was in TPM. By ROTS he used it perfectly against Anakin and Grevious because form 3 counter both of them but still gets whooped by Dooku. In Kenobi you see him switch between form 3, form 4, and even form 5 at some points. And he beats Vader.
I think I’ve discovered another practitioner of Form III, and he isn’t even in Star Wars: Rafiki. I kid you not. Go watch the original animated lion king movie, watch the battle at the end of the film and tell me: is that not a Soresu stance that Rafiki takes with his staff? Also like a Soresu master, he also seems to strike only when the Hyenas make the first move to attack but he’s just quick enough to intercept them with his own counters.
If u can could you do a video explaing what the force exactly is and its history in star wars lore ive always wondered what the force is so if u could do a vid that would be great
Hey Star Wars theory maybe I should know this but what is the form where you hold it over your head like mace and Palpatine did in one shot or Anakin vs count dooku, etc.
Age is a small factor, the biggest thing is, is that he didn't practice and keep physically fit after dueling vader on that moon and leaving him there.
Obi wan was so cool that he could make the most boring style of lightsaber fighting, an appealing one. how i wished we had more of him in live action after episode 3, made by george lucas... perhaps someday.
I love that Soresu is the most defensive form as you pointed out. It compliments how Obi wan fights in episodes 2 and 3. You can clearly see this in his fight with Dooku in AOTC and his fights against Grevious and Anakin in ROTS
Then the Kenobi show forgets how it works.
@@mongooseunleashed lol man was using the high ground form
@@mongooseunleashed after the cave in scene he started using form 4 ataru,, because reasons
@GetShaftedBuddy I agree I just wanted to be more condescending lol
@GetShaftedBuddy In the Revenge of the Sith novel, both Obi-Wan and Anakin switched up styles during the duel with Dooku. Of course, in that case they deliberately used forms that were less than ideal to trick Dooku.
Obi wan is truly the embodiment of the light side of the force, even his combat form is based around preserving life
Nah you need to research plo koon mote
@@LukeHuber I can agree with Plo but there is also Qui Gon.
@@zakkmylde1712 yeah and he had a definite connection to the force, but he wasn't as strongly connected naturally as plo, I would say he was perhaps a better scholar of the force though
@@LukeHuber I can agree with that. Plo was absolutely naturally gifted, case in point force judgment.
@@zakkmylde1712 true and some of the powers he found as part of the baran do were pretty good, weather manipulation and some other interesting stuff
The Master of Soresu
The Negotiator
The Master of Trolling
And…
The Master of the High Ground
But not the master of walking around fences.
@@John_Locke_108 He's Obi-Wan kenobi, not Obi-juan kenobi
@@majorastorm Ha!! That reply is awesome
I would love a Star wars type of game where you can choose your fighting style, your force abilities you wanna master, go on missions keeping the peace for the republic.
I basically want the Hogwarts game for the ps5 but star wars
That would be the best Game
That would be an absolute dream come true.
Hogwarts legacy will be on pc too.
This is an awesome idea
KOTOR comes close to that.
I love how in the Brotherhood novel, Kenobi's fighting style is described as an elegant dance of violence, and Anakin's fighting style is just the unrelenting destruction as if from a tank.
Fun Fact: While Maul normally used Form 7/Juyo, (a very ferocious and aggressive form of combat) when he faced against Darth Sidious alongside Savage in The Clone Wars, he immediately went with Form 3/Soresu. This was a good touch showing the genuine fear Maul had for his former master.
In the Kenobi show, it shows in the last fight with Vader that Ben can be offensive as well.
He even did the behind the back twirl, often seen as Anakin’s move, which shows that Kenobi was the one who taught Anakin his moves in the first place.
The dude really was THE master.
The form itself was meant to be purely defensive in technique. I've always seen this (and vice versa with every other form) to mean that the learning the form puts all of your focus into learning defense, but doesn't limit the user to pure defense for using it.
It wouldn't surprise me that someone who focused on Serisu would also learn compatible offensive techniques to fill the void that the form has in that field. Obi-Wan is the obvious example in this.
Focusing on Serisu would mean that yes, he's way more defensive than offensive, but doesn't necessarily mean that the Jedi/Sith themselves have no way to go offensive in this form through use of other compatible techniques. "Lacking kill moves" is a limit of the Form, not the Jedi using it - at least that's how I always saw Lightsaber Forms.
@@solugad Right. Plus we know Obi-Wan was VERY proficient in form IV from his padawan days. Not too far fetched that he made sure to train up his offense for the eventuality that Soresu wouldn’t be enough.
I never realized that him being the NEGOTIATOR complemented his fighting style, trying to get the enemy to stop fighting is very Jedi.
You can't deny how badass Obi-wan Kenobi is with the form Soresu. In the Clone Wars, whenever he uses this form one of the first scenes that came to mind are the three different fights scenes that he had throughout the series. Once in the Clone Wars movie when facing Ventress, once in S2 when fighting Pre Vizla and his team of Mandolorian from Death Watch, and once in S4 when Darth Maul has resurfaced and challenges Obi-wan for a rematch.
His fight against maul and savage on i think florum was masterful. took them both down in that hallway. They were literally running from him as Hondo stated lol
@@nickjohnson4397 Fr, this was the moment where Obi-wan went full-on Ultra Instinct on both Maul and Savage like a goat.
I think it's also a testament to Kenobi's strength and willpower to still be able to still survive and persevere so long with Soresu.
Loved the Soresu breakdown, hearing about the different lightsaber fighting forms is always fun! Would love to see a theory on What If Maul was Grand Inquisitor, and see how you think he and Vader would get along working together.. Cheers!
Its the lightsaber form that Anakin hated the most he still suffers PTSD from it
Personally, Obi-Wan’s fighting form is my favourite! I’ve been practicing it for quite a while!
My favorite is form four and seven, but I keep on getting form four most of the time on Leia's Lair.
You've been practicing it⁉️ you a Jedi???
@@bigmonke1449 Hahaha, yessir! Jedi Master? Isaac! You seek Isaac!
Lmao, all jokes aside, yeah I swing my saber around every once and awhile for fun 😁👊
Ive been trying to do the spin where he spins it and then points with his fingers @@IsaacHolland2021
" You can't win Darth if you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine."
"Best defense is a good offense."
Count Dooku: *Observe*
Twice the pride double the fall
I would like to know the combination of lightsaber forms, specifically if it’s better to be a master of one or skilled in each form to adapt to different situations. I know Anakin used Jar’Kai in his first duel with Dooku as to give him an edge. A sort of surprise if you will to the opponent, as Obi-Wan knew Anakin wouldn’t be able to hold off Dooku with just Form V.
Please make one about Trakata!! The most forgotten of all forms, igniting and retracting your saber to your advantage (Darach's way of killing Malgus' Master, Darth Vindican). Lightsabers are retractable (vs. traditional sword fighting) and I wish both sides used it to their advantage more (even though apparently the Sith are too proud)... imagine your lightsabers are about to clash and you sneakily retract your saber, dodge and immediately have a quick window to take down your opponent. Or mid-saber clash, retracting and dodging in a split second would throw off your opponents balance so effectively! With double-sided weapons (as Darach did), you can ignite that second side at a moments notice and totally catch your enemy by surprise.
BTW, Love your content for years now, and thank you so much for bringing positive and inclusive vibes to the fandom!!!
I love seeing the different forms of lightsaber duals. Keep these comin!!
Whats great about soresu is that its one of most of practical and easiest forms to use. You dont have to be acrobatic like yoda to use it.
Soresu is all about defense, and its ready stance reflects that. From jedi knight academy.
Soresu means your lighstaber should be held in a tight neutral guard or close to your body. Lightsaber held in front of you aligned with your belly so you can easily block from all angles.
If you play something like vader immortal vr, its a great game to practice soresu. You would also find out how practical soresu it is.
I love content relating to lightsaber combat so much; it's one of my biggest obsessions within the Star Wars universe. I'm personally more partial to Form II: Makashi for it's elegance, balance (physical and mental) and purist expression of the lightsaber as an exotic weapon of swordsmanship; the reverence for duelling as evident with Count Dooku (his lightsaber design also being my favorite next to Qui-Gon's). Of course, I love all forms for different reasons, and feel it's highly beneficial to know at least one or two additional forms in conjunction with a preferred specialty in order to compensate for inherent weaknesses, or to complement a certain strength.
Since Shien grew out of Soresu, the question arises: Would a Shien master (e.g. Plo Koon) have any reason to study Soresu?
This reminds me how much I love Qui-Gon and how he was a big part of what Obi-Wan became.
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(Master and Apprentice, Claudia Gray, 2019.)
Just before Obi-Wan would leave the room, Qui-Gon said, "Once, you asked me about the basic lightsaber cadences. Why I'd kept you there, instead of training you in more advanced forms of combat."
Obi-Wan turned reluctantly to face him again. "I suppose you thought I wasn't ready for me. The same way I'm not ready to believe in all this mystical__"
"That's not why."
After a long pause, Obi-Wan calmed to the point where he would listen. "Then why, Qui-Gon?"
"Because many Padawans - and full Jedi Knights, for that matter - forget that the most basic technique is the most important technique. The purest. The most likely to protect you in the battle, and the foundation of all knowledge that is to come," Qui-Gon said. "Most apprentices want to rush ahead to styles of fighting that are flashier and more esoteric. Most Master let them, because we must all find our preferred form eventually. But I wanted you to be grounded in your technique. I wanted you to understand the basic cadences so well that they would become instinct, so that you would be almost untouchable. Above all, I wanted to give you the training you needed to accomplish anything you set your mind to later on."
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(Revenge of the Sith novelization, Matthew Stover, 2005.)
There is an understated elegance in Obi-Wan Kenobi's lighsaber technique, one that is quite unlike the feel one might get from the other great swordsbeings of the Jedi Order. He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elen of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become.
He is simplicity itself.
You have a very comforting voice! Also you should do more lightsaber reviews
Great video Theory.
When I think about Form 3 and Kenobi I think about how it not only reflects his fighting style but his personal philosophy.
“The strongest defense is a quick and decisive offense.”
Form 3 and Form 5 seem to be an interesting mix to develop. Wearing down your opponent with defence until an opening presents itself.
The master of the high ground would approve this
Yes I remember these videos General Theory bring em back🎆⚔️💙 I always loved how Matthew Stover ROTS Novel described Form 3
I wanna see Theory doing every form during the videos
"The Sith Emperor plagued the galaxy with schemes and plots"
hmm
"Schemes and plots are the same thing" -Tyrion Lannister (GoT Season 2)
Thank you for alll the uploads my friend. I love these videos.
I've been lokking forward to this !
May the force be with you my master
I love the fighting style lore so much. These little details is what drives us fans, sad they don't do that anymore.
Qui Gon, Obi Wan, and Anakin’s forms fit their characters and their philosophies so well.
Form 4 is aggression while relying on the force to guide you, once you commit to a move you have to see it through regardless of the outcome you are at the mercy of the move. Qui Gon adhered to the living force above all else even if it lead to his demise.
Form 3 is defensive until an opportunity presents itself to counter, even with blaster deflected never reflected. Obi wan adhered to the Jedi code even when the truth was presented he didn’t take the opportunity to strike first and it cost the Jedi and the republic. Too much defense without offense only delays the inevitable.
Form 5 is Aggressive taking the fight to the enemy returning their strikes with heavy counters. Anakin is an aggressive duelist hammering away his opponents defenses hatefully, passionately, fearfully ultimately leading to his downfall to the darkside.
2:55 That could be another reason why Obi-Wan never killed Vader despite having the chance on two occasions. Additionally, it would explain how Maul managed to survive for so long.
I think my favorite use of Kenobi's brilliance was his final duel with Maul, he opens up with his Soresu but then switches to Ataru, pretty sure he got inside mauls head with that stance but in the middle of 3 movements switches back to Soresu and ends the fight. beautiful.
I think there was a coversation between Windu and some one else talking how Obi is THE master of form 3, is it better to be a master of a traditional form or to be a master of a new form (Vapaad)
i'd say it's better to be a master of a whole new form because then your opponents won't know your moves
Meetra Surik is a really interesting character. A video on her would be cool.
This is the earliest I've ever gotten to a video
This may be my favorite form
These are my favourite videos of yours, keep them coming!
Great video. Congrats on the channel. I'm a huge fan, A New Hope was the first film I ever saw when I was two years old.
Form 3 has always been my favorite.
Master Yoda uses the force to help with his arthritis and to make those acrobatic movements as well as put Power behind a strikes
Did someone mention my name?
I would love to see an analysis video on what lightsaber form would have better suited an aging Kenobi. Maybe a theory video where Kenobi secretly learns Vaapad from Windu before his death.
I think form 1 would have been better because of it's simplicity and ease of use
I always considered Kenobi the most offensive Form III practitioner from spending so many years as a Form IV user as a padawan under Qui Gon
Please continue this series lol I’m very interested in this
I was all about the 3 forms when I dominated on Jedi Outcast and Academy back on PC. The good old days. Best lightsaber combat in a video game ever done
I just love the pose he does.
Awesome please go over in detail all 7 forms thanks 🙏
Love your Videos
When will we get part 2 of the vader fan film?
I got form four on Leia's Lair quiz, so I'm excited to hear your breakdown of that form in particular. I also want to know more about form 7 because it's my second favorite.
Random but I’m playing Jedi knight 2 on the hardest difficulty and I’m about to snap. I’m ready to go to the dark side lol
Lmao
Ah i am first
Form 1: Shii-cho
Form 2: Makashi
Form 3: Soresu
Form 4: Ataru
Form 5: Shien & Djem so
Form 6: Niman
Form 7: Vaapad or Juyo
And i said all of these by memory.
Why did i do this... cuz i am bored
Form 69: Ni-ce
Defensive forms of fighting usually require intelligence and patience; qualities Obi posses in abundance 🖖
I was waiting for this video!
I hope that we get to choose Cal Kestis's lightsaber dueling form in Jedi Survivor!
If we do I'm either choosing form III, Or Form V or if we can mix the styles together to throw off the adversary.
Obi Wan was definitely a calm and collective fighter, this style definitely fits him. I’ve always had a question that’s off subject, where were the temple guards during order 66? Did Anakin/Vader kill them? Or did the 501st overwhelm them? Always been super curious about them.
The grand inquisitor, who was one of them at the time, killed them, thus allowing the 501st and Anakin to easily breach the temple.
@@dominikvystyd560 I did know that the Grand Inquisitor was one of them, I just didn’t know he killed them all. Thank you!
Really shows how Grievous would have easily killed Obi Wan if he didn't have plot armor
One sword can block one sword, all Grievous had to do was force him to block and attack him with his three remaining free arms, easy
Count Dooku recognized that Obi-Wan had become the master of form 3 as well when they fought, he also recognized that not only was he ridiculously good defensive, but he would switch to form 2 and form 4 offensively against the count as well
The most practical form imo.
Man I gotta say one could argue that Darth Bane won when reading the book and how it ended lol. He was having a problem with his right arm the entire time and once the essence transfer was complete Darth Zanna was clinching her right hand opening and closing it as if it felt weird to have the pain gone from the body. So it makes for good conversation thats for sure lol.
Lil know fact Obi-Wan master 2 forms and was able to switch between the 2 or combine them at will. As seen in the Obi-Wan series fighting Vader.
What if Ashoka was in the Siege of Mandalore with Obi-Wan and Anakin?
She was there lol you mean with if obi and ani were there
@@TrePerk No, I meant what would happen the three went to Mandalore to capture Maul.
@@josiahpurtee1156 then they would have found out about palpatine from maul , I suppose
@@TrePerk Yeah.
Such a formidable style.
I think Obi Wan should have been swapped with Boba Fett in the Obi Wan show. Imagine Boba Fett saving Leia only to hunt her down in the empire strikes back. It's like poetry, it rhymes. I do like having more Obi Wan but if feels like disney doesn't think their shows through
Please continue this theory
in the last episode of Obiwan, it’s cool seeing Obiwan use Soresu and Ataru against Vader
@StarWarsTheory Love the information on this. Thank you also for your recommendation of “Dath Plagueis” Audiobook….it was absolutely an incredible adventure.
I love the fight stance of Form III Soresu
Obi Wan was really the perfect Jedi (as perfect as someone can be) it helped that Qui-Gon was one of the best pure Jedi and then Anikan was the opposite so he was exposed to both sides and was able to use either side when needed
Can imagine as a Jedi gets older due to how incredibly brutal, an vicious, an taxing, Saber battles, even if they're just duels.. there comes a time when old Jedi just CAN'T handle fighting and combat tasks anymore. Even if THAT was their specialty and what they was known for in their prime an early years. Since we saw SO MANY old Jedi Masters an knights far from the front lines. Like the Librarian Jocasta, Yoda after awhile on his death bed meant his dueling days had to have been long done, an in this video just shows Kenobi's prime by the Original Trilogy was long over too. Imagine in some alternative verse even extremely powerful and gifted saber fighters like Mace and Anakin in some alternative reality eventually got way too old to effectively swing their blades anymore an basically became the next Sin Dralic or Jocasta Nu
I wish Vibroblades were still relevant
You should make a video on why Vader never went looking for R2-D2. After revenge of the sith? He went out of his way to retrieve R2 once during the clone wars.
amazing he was able to get in tune without getting hit by Anakins barrage of strikes
Even though this doesn't have anything to do with this particular video, for some reason watching it got me thinking, why didn't the clones turn on Anakin during order 66?
I mean I know that he was technically Sith at that point, and was also technically Darth Vader, but I doubt the clones would have knows about that second one since it was established to have been a secret Vader wouldn't have wanted known. You couldn't even argue that because he wasn't a Jedi anymore that they didn't see him as a target, since they still went after Ahsoka and Maul, and neither of them were Jedi.
Is it possible the Sith had built in immunity to the order? When Palatine issued order 66 to Rex he responded by saying "Yes, Lord Sidious". Rex shouldn't have know Palpatine was Sidious, not unless that information was built into the inhibitor chips. I wonder how the particulars of that work...
Anyone got any thoughts on this?
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Obi-Wan's power level against Vader in the finale would be able to take on Palpatine at that point
Not necessarily. Vader’s conflicting thoughts could also have been a contributing factor as to why he lost against Obi-Wan.
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
That's actually good to ponder about. What do you think?
@@chibidakis1 That would be fantastic because the Night of a Thousand Tears wouldn't happen, which means Sundari wouldn't be destroyed. 😁👍
Great video.
You should make a video on the Sith Emperor, he is cool and probably the most powerful *character* in star wars
In my personal opinion, as good as Kenobi is at form 3. I think it is his downfall during SOME fights not all. In the phantom menace we see Obi Wan go against maul using the aggressive form 4 and show absolutely insane lightsaber combat feats. Then in episode 2 he uses form 3 and gets his ass handed to him by Dooku. In AOTC he didn't seem nearly as good as he was in TPM. By ROTS he used it perfectly against Anakin and Grevious because form 3 counter both of them but still gets whooped by Dooku. In Kenobi you see him switch between form 3, form 4, and even form 5 at some points. And he beats Vader.
I love these videos
I cant wait to go over djem sho and shien.
I think I’ve discovered another practitioner of Form III, and he isn’t even in Star Wars: Rafiki.
I kid you not. Go watch the original animated lion king movie, watch the battle at the end of the film and tell me: is that not a Soresu stance that Rafiki takes with his staff?
Also like a Soresu master, he also seems to strike only when the Hyenas make the first move to attack but he’s just quick enough to intercept them with his own counters.
If u can could you do a video explaing what the force exactly is and its history in star wars lore ive always wondered what the force is so if u could do a vid that would be great
just got a golden harvest V3 WOOOT
I have a temper, so if I were a Jedi I could ONLY study Form III, lest I fall to the Dark Side from my anger.
What if Ahsoka told the council what Maul said about Anakin?
What if Ahsoka and I had babies
They'd probably look like freaks, hairs and tentacles, but I'm still down
Hey Star Wars theory maybe I should know this but what is the form where you hold it over your head like mace and Palpatine did in one shot or Anakin vs count dooku, etc.
Age is a small factor, the biggest thing is, is that he didn't practice and keep physically fit after dueling vader on that moon and leaving him there.
I've been subscribed for some time and I popped in and out of your videos
I would love to see a video of a form for lightsaber
Sir, Obi-Wan didn’t lose to Vader in episode IV, he gave up the ghost to become even more powerful 👍🏽
In the future would make a video on darth nihilus please and thank you for making amazing content.
I would love to see a video of lightsaber from four
Obi wan was so cool that he could make the most boring style of lightsaber fighting, an appealing one. how i wished we had more of him in live action after episode 3, made by george lucas... perhaps someday.
Is the style he uses in ROTS the same as TPM. In TPM his style seems more aggressive.
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Are there ways to get around Form 3?