Universal BuildS: Part 2 The Parts Breakdown!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- We have spent the last 6 months dedicated to this universal build project and we are so stoked with the information we have learned!! We are extremely happy with how this machine performs and truly how tough it is! Below we will link every part used that made this build so successful! Don't forget that when you call into SuperATV to get the universal machine package to say I want the Slikrok Universal Machine Package and you will get $350 off your order! Huge thank you to SuperATV for being the company that is willing to listen to their customers and for always striving to be better at what they do! Hats off to you guys! The Canam X3 XRS Max Universal build will soon follow and we will be breaking that all down just like this as well!
*We apologize, apparently math is not our strong suit! The total for all parts mentioned is $5,509.70 minus the $350.00 with the package discount brings the total to $5159.70.
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4" Portal Gear Lift
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AtlasPro High Clearance Boxed A Arms
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Aluminum Rear Suspension Links Radius Rods
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HD Rear Trailing Arms
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Heavy Duty Axles - Rhino 2.0
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Polaris RZR Frame Stiffener
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Heavy Duty Tie Rods
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Great point on the gravity center point. A lot of people don't quite understand that. Which I totally get, when your sitting that high your mind wants to tell you that you could just tip right over.
Midwest ATV Thank you sir!
One of the best videos, I have seen on portals, parts and information... Thank you
Seriously appreciate that Deon!! Send me an email and I will get you some decals coming.
I've got everything on the list except the portals and they are next . Great info keep the vids coming
That is awesome Jay! Appreciate the support!
Sorry....N00B here. What are portals?
No worries man! Portals are a gear reduction hub that mount at each tire. They give you a 30% gear reduction, 4" more clearance and 8" wider. Pretty awesome! Go to superatv.com and look them up or check out our youtube channel we have done several videos on them! Hit us up with any questions!
SlikRok Productions Cool....thanks again for the heads up!
very welcome!
That’s awesome. Complete game changer for 5k. Can’t wait to build mine.
Thanks Dan! Keep us posted on your build!
Nice informative videos, thank you! Your opinion and upgrades on the Can-am X3 would be great. I'm a Can-am guy but respect Polaris for sure. Keep up the good work!
What up man! Thank you! We respect both machines and it all comes down to having fun!
Awesome stuff guys. That's a killer price, just looking forward to when CAD and USD are close to par again, we get rooked up here.
Thank you man! Yes it is. That sucks, hopefully that happens soon!
The universal kit should work great with a Dynamix XP4 Turbo, correct? I assume the shocks are stock. Thanks for working so hard to find the perfect all purpose machine. Love your videos.
Hey Kevin! Yes that is actually the machine we used in this project! Yes they are.
thank you soooo much for this video!! This answered most of the questions i have had and some i didnt think about to get a universal type rig. I have a turbo 4 that I want to do a similar set on.
The biggest thing I have concerns about that you didnt talk much about is how the portals affect top speed and with portals is there any clutch work that needs to be looked into?
Thanks again for a great informative vid!
muadeab Appreciate the comment and with a 4” portal and 34-36” tire we do not do any clutching. We only run oem clutching. With a 35” tire we only loose about 5-6mph off the top end!🤘
Hey thank you for the break down
Thank you for the support!
Great video guys 🤯 🙃 I already have everything but the portals 😎
Sweet you are golden! Thank you Ryan!
hey ryan. bring rick back.lol
yeah i allready have a bunch of super atvs stuff on my rig. portals are on my wish list too. i love the slick rock rigs. if i had the money mine would be just like it. i ride with some jeeps with 44s . i need portals. got some 32 " bighorn knockoffs(made by journy) gonna try to runnem without portals in my xp1000. hope i dont just smoke belts. lol
@@SlikRokProductions great vids. im only subscribed to 4 people and u guys are one of them. keepem coming. your spot on with superatv. they build everything the way polaris should with a much better warrenty.
@@nathonsmithson3024 I have 32s on my turbo just have a clutch kit mine does fine you should be good I would think
Really appreciate that Nathon!! The support is why we do this! That is the best way I have heard it worded!
Love your videos! It's great to see how the upgrades perform and to get your opinions. I want to build this exact machine. You didn't mention anything about the shocks. Are they stock? Wouldn't the extra weight and leverage require springs and revalve?
Thank you we appreciate the support! We actually for the first half of testing ran stock shocks and it performed good, then we put Zbroz tenders on all for corners and it performed better and last step we just had MTS offroad to a full revalve and spring kit and it is awesome! Is it necessary no, but the ride is so much more enjoyable now.
How much clearance do you get in the narrowest spot between the portals and wheel? I think I've heard you mention those are 15" wheels right? Also, in your opinion, for primarily mud/trail riding, what size tire would push you to say you would "need" a 45% reduction vs a 30%?
Not sure on the exact measurement but the 15" wheel has ample clearance. I would have to run a 40+ inch tire to go to 45% reduction.
Great videos and thanks for all the information. I was wondering if you had any concerns about not being able to keep the front sway bar with the boxed A arms, does it lean too much when cornering hard? Thanks!
Hey Richard, thank you! To be honest Richard first thing we do when we get a new machine is take off the front sway bar and throw it away.
Yeah I’ll take the SlikRok deal 🤘😁🤘 yeaaaah 💪😎👍 hey I’ve got a couple of ideas to run by ya that help the other end of the spectrum... the states with 60” Laws 👌
Awesome man, we are always open to hear how we can help. Can't wait to see what you have for us!
Just I installed 4in portals on my 900s. It's an awesome look and feel. My question is to you guys run limit straps with your potals?
james myers we run them on two of our rigs but not of any of the others. We run them because we had clearance issues with the tie rods and a Arms combinations.
What size of tire do you run to keep the top speed? With the portal gear reduction you will need larger tire to get top speed back?
Yes you are correct. We have found that with a 34" tire you are still gain a little bit more lower end but still hit 64mph. Ideally to be to a 1:1 ratio you should run a 35" or 36" tire.
Quick question I do a lot of mud riding here in Texas I already have a 3 to 5 inch bracket lift on my 17 highlifter when I add these portals would it be ok to leave the bracket lift on or ideal to remove it?
In our opinion removing the bracket lift when adding the portals will give you alot better and more comfortable ride and your machine will articulate so much more.
Great setup and thanks for the info. My ranger is about the same setup. Question is for now. I was thinking of buying a rzr but what model would you recommend. There isn't a trails and rock in a 4 seater this year. What would you re the base model, dynamic or high lifter. Do you think the dynamic shocks would be good for the rock climbing.
Hey Kris! We have 2 dynamic machines and they are very impressive, I would definitely lean that way. My suggestion is take them both for a test drive and see which you like better!
@@SlikRokProductions would you say that the turbo version is overkill for the most part, I mean for the rock climbing portion. I don't plan on doing dunes. I was looking at the high lifter edition with the lower low gear. I am not going to get it wet but I am defiantly going to have a 4 seater. I do like the Dynamic edition with the ride command. But the Highlifter has a 50% lower low gear and I could install the Ride command. Don't get me wrong I love the Turbo S but don't know if it way overkill for light trails and Rock.
@@SGTKILLJOY Yes I would agree the Turbo is not necessary for rock climbing but it comes in handy for the Dunes and on the Highways between trails.
Well I am pulling the trigger on a 2019 turbo S. I appreciate all of your info. One other question how do you feel about a duraclutch clutch in one of these rigs. I won't be doing dunes. And as far as superatv ATV and your universal build I will be going the same way. I guess you could say you have got me addicted to your build. I have a duraclutch on my ranger and it is awesome for the mountain climbing in the desert. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on it. Thanks alot I think I will need a slickrock logo for my new rig.
@@SGTKILLJOY That is awesome and congrats on the new purchase. We can get you some decals no problem just email us your info. We actually have never ran a dura clutch and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction.
So basically almost 10 grand after the cage and wheels..... Having said that I'm saving my pennies hoping my rzr xp1000 4 seater non-turbo can turn 32's without losing too much power LOL
You can do the whole suspension and portals like this set up under 6k
i would like to see u guys do a teryx 4
That is on our short list so hopefully soon!
On the portals what did you change for the dunes? I’m thinking about portals
Hey Doug! We didn't change anything with the portals we built the suspension around the portals to be able to take the added rolling mass and strain!
How monstrous of a trailer do you need for this sick rig? Like how wide for portals and 35s do you need?
This rig is 80" wide outside tire to outside tire!
Great video as always! 1 thing tho, what about upgraded power steering to handle the portals and big tires? Is that a necessary upgrade or will the factory steering be fine?
Factory steering will be fine, we are working on a fix to bring the outer tie rod back to factory geometry to eliminate bump steer and over turning without sacrificing turning radius. This is only a problem with the forward offset a arms.
SlikRok Productions Thanks for the info! Any update on the tie rod fix yet? Also would the 34s fit without the forward offset in the a arms?
Hey Jacob, most the steering issues with these machine comes from running the forward offset a arms because it changes the factory geometry of the tie rod allowing to over steer and bump steer. Have have started making our own brackets that weld to the protal brackets to set the tie rods back to factory geometry. Without forward offset a arms you will rub with a 34" tire. Hope that helps!
Do the boxed arms work with the turbo front sway? I know you said you had to trim the bumper brackets off the arms but is there sway mounts? Thanks!!
cory little yes there are mounts for the factory front sway bar. Go check out our install video it has some close ups.
Was wondering if you are going to do a yxz1000r to
It is on the list!
Hello, Do you know if they are making tha atlas boxes a arms in the 1.5 forward version? I was told no on the phone, but not sure if she knows what she was talking about. And if they are not making them will the 34 inches tires clear with 4 inch portals? Thanks.
Yes they are making the atlas boxed a arms in the forward offset. Only issue is they say they don't offer them for the turbo models because of the sway bar tabs on them will puncture the radiator on compression. So just order the arms for the non turbo, cut the tabs off and use there bushing kit for the older model.
@@SlikRokProductions Ok well I just got off the phone with them again and they did confirm that they are not making them. They are only making the tubular style. So I would like the boxed style but I am wondering if the non forward style will fit 34 inch tires? Thanks I appreciate it.
Do a Polaris general rescue version
Does superatv still have the package deal
Yes if you call in a talk with Corey Jackson
Thank ya
Need to build a turbo s or who would b the best to talk to about a custom cadge
That one is on the list as soon as they come out with a 4 seater. Hopefully this November! I would get ahold of Dekon at Vent Racing or Vern at Rebel Style kustoms. Both do great work just comes down to what style you like!
How did the electronic sway bar turn out never seen anymore on it
So far it has performed great. We are a little behind on that follow up but it really has been a great and well thought out product!
What size tires could you fit under this if need be? The reason I ask is because although we want to go to a universal build since we are traveling the country going to different riding terrains, the closest one to our house that we visit often is a pure mud park. We still need to be able to stuff large mud tires for clearance.
With the 4" portals we have found that a 34"-36" tire is perfect with the gear reduction ratio. You could probably squeeze a 37" in there but would rub if it is wider than 10"
Thanks so much for the information. I sent my wife these vids and she is onboard for doing this upgrade. We mainly ride Alabama/Florida mud, but are going to Paiute/Moab in July and are planning to a different ride somewhere different every month. This setup will be perfect for us I think since we are planning on tackling all types of terrain. Been working my way through your vids. Great info.
That is awesome John and very jealous of your travel plans! You are very welcome and reach out anytime. Appreciate the support!
SlikRok Productions I'm sorry to keep pestering you man, but I have another question. I don't own the turbo, I own the High Lifter. It has a 55% reduction in low gear. To get a similar "universal" type build, how would you go about it? It isn't unquestionable to sell it and buy a turbo, but I would rather not since it is a 2018 and we paid cash, so I would lose my ass on the sale.
John Morrison Don't ever apologize for asking us questions! There is no need to sale your machine unless you are wanting the turbo. We can achieve the same universal build with your highlifter. So when we go to the 4" portals with the 30% gear reduction we are actually offsetting that ratio by running bigger tires. I.E. 30% gear reduction substituted for a 30% larger tire. We run 34"-36" and have found those work really well. So all in all if you go to bigger tires your low gearing and high gearing should be about the same as you are experiencing now.
Is there a version of this for the X3?
Sweet deal under 5K! Maybe next year. I’ve already spent 15K in upgrades! You know how fast money flies doing upgrades.
Check out my build. Suspension is next. Love your videos man!
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Oh trust us we know! Yes pretty awesome to have such quality parts that are affordable! Hit us up anytime man!
SlikRok Productions Will do, I Subscribed because I love how you guys don’t BS and you keep it real with what works and what doesn’t. Thanks again.
You are the man! Really appreciate the support and we just call it how we see it!
No way the portals alone are 3,300
I have the exact same setup other than the 2" wheel spacers. Does the spacers cause any issues? I've had issues with the back sides of my front wheels rubbing my brake lines.
What size wheel you running? With the spacers you definitely feel it in the steering.
@@SlikRokProductions I'm running a 10" wide wheel with 32" rocktanes. I was thinking about stepping up to a 34" or 35". I do alot of rock crawling and trail riding.
Oh nice, we really like the 34" roctane
@@SlikRokProductions just ordered the 2" spacers, I guess we will see the difference.
Keep me posted, what size wheel do you have? 14" 15"?