$160,000 Sailboat Purchase - Ep 205 - Lady K Sailing
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- This week we look at buying $160,000 sailboats and what's currently on the market. We also talk about changing the steering in a sailboat and different sailboat models for cruising the Caribbean. Bonus, Tim's favorite boat makes an appearance!
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1980 I bought a Hallberg Rassy 352 and I still have it, 43 years of the greatest pleasure, sailing with familj, friends and very many times singel handed. The best!!
Tim, could you do a section in one of your videos of "asking price" and 'bought price", and what the average percentage differance is?
Bristol 45.5 has a long fin keel. It is not a full keel. However, the prop is in a skeg/rudder aperture like a full keel.
First...just in time....I woke up to our first snow this morning...
YAY! and YIKES!
Me too, in New Hampshire
Hello ,i love this channel ,my favorite sailboat is the HANS CHRISTIAN 48T , the same one from Sailing FAIR ISLE .Greetings from a Canadian Chilean Sailboat Lover ..
I like the beneteau 473 oceanis. 2001 would be fine
Dude I really love your channel and this series! I'm out for a boat atm (actually loved the Bavaria 37) and I will book an hour consultation with you to learn if this is the correct boat for me. Also love that you don't take 200 $/h.. 60$ is very reasonable and I'll gladly pay that to get your expertis! See you very soon my man :)
Never sailed but I love the Hallberg- Rassy in one ofyour videos.
I'm just between a Beneteau 45 and a 48...probably will get the best deal of the two!!!
I'm loving the C&C Landfall. I haven't got her yet but I'm on the hunt!
The interior overhead on the Barvaria looks like the inside of a commercial airliner!
I'm a bit of an old-fashioned guy when it comes to yachts and in my wish list is the flying 35 designed by uffa fox
but if money was not an issue I am rather taken by any of the spirt yachts over 40 foot
if only I was not a boat builder and sailing instructor I might of had the cash to buy a dream yacht
Catalina 470 sits at the top of my list. Seems like the best balance of ocean credibility, comfort, and fancy lounge chairs for my wife. Price is in this same range but I have concerns about what refits might be lurking. That one in New York has been sitting for awhile…
Go over your favorite boat with a certfied marine surveyor to detail post purchase expenses for sea worthiness! Mahalo!
Thanks for your help. Santorini is on my list of possibles. Husband loves the marimu but WAY out of our price range unless we win the lottery. Currently a 160k listing in Italy on YachtWorld that I showed husband immediately after sharing this video with him.
Great show . I’m all about the 40 foot jennies. Single handed .
Love the episodes Tim, hope you’ll keep doing this up to a million dollars.
Love the Oceanis! Good job Tim
we havent decided but want one with a pilot house... maybe a gulf...
Thanks for another great video!
I love your quick qualification of the Skag hung comment. Bavaria’s are great boats for the those fin folks. LOL have fun.
Randy from Captain Q did a great video on quadrants , the bolts attaching to the cable should be on the same side and used as locking nuts . Not one on ether side 👍.
Wow! Great episode! I can't afford one (yet), but they surely are super-tempting, as to restructure finances to reach these beauties!! Thanks for this great set of boats. They are just incredible!
Wow, great video along with some awesome sailboat. Bavaria & the Catalina 42… dream boats😊sailboat
Great job, teaching the ropes.
island packet, pacific sea craft. own a Catalina, owned 26 Columbia mkll
I was on a friend's Bavaria. I couldn't believe how thin the lay-up was. Be vary careful about former charter boats. Nobody really knows how they've been used/abused. You could easily find yourself shelling out for a new suite of sails way before you thought you'd need to
I love the Gossard 44 ketches
Fantastic video with a two awesome sailboats, dream boats. Bavaria & the Catalina 42
Great channel Tim… Thank You!
Not sure how much you may have touched on this but it would be interesting to see videos on Nonsuch, gaff rigs, junk rigs, etc. I think some "out of the box" boats would be cool. love the videos!
so, found your channel today and already binged my way from 60k to 160k. As you would, when the boat is on the hard. Mine is rather at the other end of the spectrum, a Sirius 26 (Streuer, not the Canadian one) and that also sort of defines what my current dream boat is: a Sirius 310 DS or a 35DS, with the 35 mainly being desireable since the longer hull makes for nicer proportions.
The beauty of those boats is, that through the decksaloon layout, they offer the living room of a 40ft/45ft boat on 31/35ft and still are considered to be sailing really well. Here in the Baltic, choices of marinas shrink, when you go above 40ft and 6ft draft, especially so among the Danish islands
Anti seize on all bolts. We use the copper stick type for convenience.
really enjoyed this episode, watched three times
My dream boat is the Sirius 35 or 40 DS but my more realistic boat is a Oceanis 34.1 or 38.1
Beneteau 42 CC is my favorite boat it has bigger size too but out of my budget
Just a bit concerned that in charter there would be unreported groundings that causes hidden damage. 😮
I agree with the amel and bristol being excellent options. As for my favorite, I will mention a few, like a passport 42ac, a bristol 43.3 or a 45.5, a shannon 43 or 50 ketch and hinckley sou'wester or a Bermuda mid 40s! Hopefully, next year I be able to pick an example of the previously mentioned vessels!
Love these vids. Informative, and without the fluff. My budget is $250k, but am having a difficult time finding a good one here in the Philippines. I will keep looking, and a few do come up here, but nothing that is exceptional. Not looking for a project. Thank you for your effort!
I owned a Bene 41.1 and have sailed the 45 and 48 in rather spirited blue water conditions. These boats are all great in coastal small chop and perform well in light wind conditions, but will knock your teeth out in the open ocean. The comfort ratio on the 45 is 20.99, which is about as low as you can go and the capsize ratio is not that great at 2.14. Great coastal cruisers and Caribbean island hoppers, but not something I want to cross an ocean with. When buying a boat, the first question you need to ask yourself is what is your mission?
Once again, a great episode! We're looking for a Hans Christian 33 or similar (that has the pullman berth). Got our eyes on a couple...
I really think the person 385 checks all my boxes. Plus the price is great. Center cockpit, 2 cabins, fin keel skeg hung rudder. I really like that layout
385 did for me as well. I have hull#21. Love it.
Ahoy Tim!
I'm looking at a Dickerson 37 ketch 1985 tomorrow morning.
Have to laugh at myself, Tim. You're sitting there in your beer tee shirt and as you started out your video, I thought for a second you said, "This episode is brought to you by Bryan and Michelob! Wouldn't that be awesome!
I love the big heavy battleship ocean crossers. you picked some great examples for this price point. Why do I always like the expensive ones?
Agree with you on the the Bavaria. Good coastal cruiser to sail around the islands. Very little use during COVID years for charters. Be careful with the Amel. These are complex boat with complicated system that will need to be replaced if not already done. The Bristol looks better to me. I Also Like the Beneteau 45 but there is only one for sale at Mooring charter now and they are all hurricane damaged. Not for me. Great video.
Shannon 47/52 for me. If I had to pick a Beneteau, it would be the 57
Great episode. Can you do a west coast special at some point...I realize you are a Great Lakes dude but you probably can pull it off.
Tim thanks for all the videos, any set plans for heading back down south on Lady K? Would love to watch another series out in the Caribbean the water.
Would you cross the pacific in an Oceanis 45 ?
Context I live in Australia where 2nd hand boats are a lot more expensive so the retirement plan is to buy in US/caribian or UK/Med and sail home the long way taking 5 to 10 years to do it.
Realistic dream boat for me a moody late 90's 42 center cockpit.
Unlimited money a HH 44 hybrid Cat
Nice video I’m a fan of the 41.1 though I definitely can’t argue about that 45 and I don’t wanna project boat I want something I can go sailing on I’m just trying to get it for around that price may be a little bit more just worried about charter boats being too worn out appreciate the information just hunting for my yacht dream
Good episode. Any hurricane damage on the 2015 45 Oceanis?
Love to watch the occasional episode but you made a subscriber when you spoke about "letting" your partner go ashore in the Bahamas during your firearms onboard episode. Real men know that they can empower and support their partner. BZ to you Sir.
About the beneteau oceanis 45 but personally I'm not a fan of the long galey, I'd prefer the L shape. and get a saloon on both both sides.
Good episode and all good looking boats. :D Keep 'em comin'!
I agree the oceanis is a good one but....I would go with the Amel...
As tempting as the big 40 plus footers are, if I have 160,000 I’m looking for a Hallberg Rassy 36 mkii , Catalina 387, IP 350/380 or something along those lines.
Great episode! Tnak you very much :) My dream boat - Noordkaper 40
Made from aluminum if possible.
Thank you for everything you do for us. You described my perfect boat. Perfect for island hopping n safe enough to cross oceans. In mast furling generator. Air conditioning massive tankage. And all new sails n rigging. So what is it? Oh ya 200 to 300k.
@@robertgranafei2781 lol I am looking for that range 200 to 300k with 100 to 200 down payment
Great Video!
Excellent video and advice!!!
Was surprised to hear that both the Bristol and Amel only had 50 hp diesels. Pretty low for 45 foot boats, especially the Bristol with its heavy displacement. Otherwise, both look to be nice boats for their age.
Cheoy Lee 68 motorsailer!
Two options with in-mast furling. Great idea for short handing, but what happens when the furling gear craps out and you need to shorten sail?
Also, why’s a ketch best for ocean passages. I would have thought all the extra rigging would be a pain in the %#$$ (although I’m thinking short handed).
Great job.
i'm right there with you also a favorite of Oceanis for it's proper owner state room ... if not most pilot house/deck saloons in the 50 range also give you big owner state rooms , typically ugly ass boats but i like that kind of trawler layout (a trawler with free propulsion that is)
Why do you say one wants a ketch to cross the ocean? More sails to manage 24/7 and a single masted boat with proper mail reefs and twin foresail furling seems much better and simpler to manage then a ketch? What factor am I missing?
My favourite has to be Oyster but I have a Cool-aid budget 😳
I’d like a Southerly 38 or 42RS
good
Are you using a new light, I ask because your face is glowing! It could just be me. As always love the video, I enjoy listening to you talk about boats, the passion and knowledge you have is truly inspiring. Even though I have never been on anything bigger than a 20' pontoon boat on a lake in the middle of the desert, sad days. lol
Yep - was testing it and I think it was too bright
Love your episodes, I've learned a ton! Just a little video feedback, seems like the contrast or something is a little odd (maybe high contrast with some smoothing added?). The light is great, but I'm guessing it's adding a little bit of editing changeup for you. Figured since you're in the new studio some feedback might be helpful. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks yes, too much light. Was testing it out :) thanks
@@LadyKSailing I'm excited to see how your studio comes together!
Boat I'll be looking to buy in 12mth, Catalina 387 or 400 mk2, both Aft cabin.
Your last comment is what I'm counting on because I'm nowhere near ready to buy yet.
I'm not sure increments of 10k make sense at this stage
First, what's your shirt say, in full?
Second, I've fallen in love with your boat's slightly taller sister, the Oceanis 54. Every once-in-a-while I find myself just sort of idly, you know, casing banks or jewelry stores to rob, so I can maybe get one of these boats.
Third, why wasn't the rudder bearing tube run, in fibreglass, up to the bottom of that stuffing box? That "mount it at the end of a run of radiator hose" just seems an open invitation to having it seize to the rudder stock. I mean, why wouldn't it? Set up the way it is, it has little incentive to ever move with respect to that rudder stock, and so seizing seem inevitable. I don't think I've ever heard of a propeller shaft where the stuffing box was not mounted to the top of the shaft tube. (Though, I'd have to allow that those engage in much higher RPMs than a rudder shaft ought.)
Absolute dream boat would be Oyster 495 but I would have to win the lottery first.
What do you think about the newer Oceanis 30 from Beneteau?
Hey Tim.. do you have a line on insurance for a "classic" I'm ready to transfer funds for a excellent Morgan 41 and after looking for liability insurance for the last week I'm a bit stunned. Nobody wants to insure it because I haven't had any other boat's and I have no sailing experience, the companies that are willing to take my money want to take all of it. Like 5 to 5800 a year. I live in Texas and it's at a nice marina waiting for me.. thanks 👍
I had a similar issue with my '81 C&C Landfall 38, my first boat. Only company I could get insurance from was Progressive (in Maryland). I did get $500k liability (marina required) and comprehensive.
@@TheDigitalMermaid I looked at progressive, they only insure under 35'. I put the boat in as a 34' on the online quote thing, came back with a $800 a year for liability coverage, which is fair.. that Xtra 6' for the 41' Morgan is unacceptable for some reason.
@@ThatSandersboy really!? I'm 38', no issues last February...
That bristol 45.5 is beautiful but a beta marine 50 is hilarious underpowered for a boat that size. I would be surprised if she hits 6 kts at full power and into any kind of wind you could be looking at a dangerous situation.
Bering 78
BUT, as some of your experienced commenters warned ⚠ Some BVI charter buyer experiences were absolute NIGHTMARES ❗ for the buyers (Go read some of the comments in the previous video). BASED on what I have read I would NEVER buy from them without a local lawyer down there, and IRON-CLAD contractual language so they don't "perennially" delay your taking possession. IMO they sell all the time, so they KNOW how to play games with poor inexperienced BUYERS. BE CAREFUL PEOPLE... Remember this is not their FIRST RODEO....⚠
THIS is a very GOOD example of EXACLTY what's wrong with BUYING a sailboat ⚠⚠❗❗ One person on ONE video TYPES in CAPS and SYMBOLS ❗❗ in a scary way. The ACTUAL facts are - hundreds of charter boats are sold every year and of course, you will hear a bad story from time to time. BUT ❗❗ FEAR is not the answer. Get to know a GOOD charter COMPANY and GET a survey before you buy. I am sure there is a WRONG way to DO it. But the IS A right way as well. Without the FEAR MONgerING. Don't be afraid to shop people :)
@@LadyKSailing LOL - well responded!
For a long time I’ve looked at the charter boats at BVI. I can’t understand why more people do that the purchasing there. I’ve wasted so much time in the US dealing with lazy brokers and people that publish photos of their boats 10 years prior to the listing. Shopping in the US also sucks and has many delays. I highly agree with purchasing a charter boat and please give us more information!
@@mikeh720 Go ahead cowboy 😂 Pull that trigger. Let us know how it goes for you 😊
@@LadyKSailing Om Im careful alright, and I happen to know a lot more than I can let on for a variety of reasons right now. "Following your dreams" can bite you in the front and back if you are not vigilant. Having good judgment on the front end can make all the difference in life. Especially when contracting with people who have the "upper hand" in so many ways.
Theresa similar amel in NZ for a 165K NZ dollars ,
What do you think about a Vagabond 42 or the line in general?
ever skip thru a bene Sense? i like that...uhhh...monomaran is it? design spec
Hi Tim, I also love Oceanis, but you should also check Elan Impression 45. In my opinion is even better - better layout, more spaces and it doesn't have ugly arch on the top of coach roof ;) If you can find one with 2 cabins, 2 heads layout that is grate. One youtube review of this boat here: ua-cam.com/video/Zjqtqrs-jjU/v-deo.html The prices for used ones in Europe were lower then Oceanis and practically you get the same boat. The only big downside is the steps in the saloon - but you get used to them as well. ;) I also can not afford one, but I have charted a few of them and they are really nice. In my opinion better value for money then Oceanis. My ultimate boat would be anyhow Amel, but that one is even further from my wallet ;)
Tim this sounds like it may be the new Lady K?
Some day!
@@LadyKSailing
same here!
"The mast isn't deck stepped." Do you prefer deck stepped masts? Why???
I said it wrong lol sorry. Meant it isn't keel stepped
Easy answer: the bought and paid for Catalina 42😇
Was the seizing caused by galvanic corrosion?
That and 40 years being in there I think
Salt water ruins a boat.
I am not happy with you. You steal too much of my time. You provide the kind of review of world cruisers that I crave. Please stop. But I do have a request. I have spent some time on an Oyster 485. IMO Oyster provides a living space in the deck saloons that is just amazing. Yet I'm not aware of any episode commenting on an Oyster deck saloon. Also you tend to limit the size of boats for short handled sailing. My experience on the Oyster is that it can easily be sailed single-handed or short handled. Can you address the Oysters?
OH - SHE - AAN - ESS - listing to yank pronunciation makes my ears bleed.