I GUARANTEE that more than one had a gun on board. The vast majority of those who have a gun on board don't tell anyone and don't admit it. Many of them will go as far as to act like they are against it in the first place. It mitigates many problems, and there's nothing to gain from others knowing you're armed...
You've never watched Customs guys search your boat, have you? Guaranteed they've thought of every hiding spot you have, and quite a few you haven't. When their only job is searching for stuff, even guys that don't look overly proficient get good at the one job they've got. I've been to shady places where I might feel better with a firearm, but chances are, they're also the places you least want to be in Prison for having an illegal firearm. The Bribes to get yourself out are probably more than anyone would steal anyway.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 I wasn't talking about not telling customs or your host country... Only other sailors. That's not something you try and hide from customs lol
Thats what im going to do once i get my boat going. Agreed on nothing to gain from telling other sailors or locals. Lol completely play dumb, straight outa the Army play book. Taught to always act like you dont know anything and never show anyone what you can do until a situation calls for it. MAD DOG MATTIS - Always be the nicest person in the room, but have a plan to kill everyone in it.
Stand by the repel borders! In fact I do remember a talk with a guy who was managing a boat for some eccentric millionaire, and yes this owner did indeed want several historical cannons installed on deck, complete with one guy employed as a gunsmith to maintain them, and fire them off for ceremonial occasions. Interesting to see customs dealing with that - trying to confiscate them off the deck?
I've made my living as an oilfield service vessel captain (retired), traveling worldwide. Personal firearms for protection was always prohibited in foreign ports. However, as part of our safety gear, we were issued a 12 gauge Stevens line throwing gun. It shot a steel rod connected to a spool of messenger line. Always stowed mine in my state room, just in case....
If I were sailing and another sailer or anyone for that matter ask if I had a gun onboard I would say no. I would not advertise I had one. That’s just me.
AAAR matey. a word of wisdom, a spear gun is just as deadly, if not a bit more scary.. consider having a bow hunter with you. .lol.. archery does pretty well on water.. just saying.
Tim, I completely understand and respect your point of view. I would not expect to get struck by lightning either but it could happen. Same as being a victim.
Yeah is it wroth that one out of 20 changes for that to happen. It more likely that you will get caught with that gun and some of these countries you can go to prison for yrs and they are no joke. If a gun meant that much to me I would be sure where I bring it that it won’t cost me my freedom. My freedom means a lot to me. You can get lost in some of these countries.
It could happen, but how is having a gun going to help?. In most situations you would be outnumbered and in their area. If you are lucky and were able to fight them off then your problems will really start. The local police will just lock you up in a third world country unles you can pay your way out and your national government or embasy will be unable to lift a finger to help. Leave your gun at home and switch your brain on is the best advice I can give.
a guy I know who sailed around the world alone had an electric fence around the railing and a slingshot and a bag of half inch hexnuts. in one incident, the fence did the job and protected him, and once he had to shoot at an intruder on his boat with a hexnut. the formalities with guns, he said, are far too complicated if you sail internationally.
Quarter inch hex nut, ball bearing or fishing weights to the face is not something I want to be hit with. Strong enough slingshot and it cracks your skull open like a raw egg.
If it comes to protecting my wife, friends or family, property being a second to all of that, there's no way you can convince me that I should not meet danger with extreme force. If you are on my boat or in my house uninvited, you forfeit your safety and your life to me.
In a lot of Countries if you do that illegally by their Laws you will spend at least the next few years in Prison, and it will cost you everything you own to get out. And the chances are in a lot of poorer Countries any assailant won't have a firearm. America is the only Country other than the Philippines where everyone has a gun. Defending yourself with a fish spear or a gaff hook might be OK, but an illegal firearm will get you crucified. @James Adams - A lot of SE Asian Countries won't feed you enough in Prison to be a 'Real Man'. That kind of comes with the territory.
Really ? Some dirt poor peasant is trying to steal your $30 dollar jerry can of diesel and you're going to take his life for a lousy $30? You're my hero.
I’m seeing this three years after the initial posting as I am considering getting back into sailing. As a “Gun Owner” the context of this video is spot on. Owning/possessing a firearm for self protection is a very different animal from general gun ownership. Mistakes are often permanent as are the consequences. There can be no place for misplaced bravado in your decision. Great video!
Very helpful. I really appreciate how you organize and present the information. The language I prefer is from "gun" to "defensive firearm", which brings a clear context without all the political churn. On the story regarding two individuals approaching in a boat at night: they would have eventually drawn the gun to get what they wanted. As someone trained (and former LEO) I suggest couples discuss how they will handle such situations and then follow the plan. Fortunately having some individuals approach and meaning to do harm takes time and time gives you some options. A bit different than when suddenly held up at an ATM. I recommend Active Self Protection, a You Tube channel which is a great resource where you can learn from others mistakes and successes.
Never tell anyone you have firearms on the boat. Never show where you store them “hide” firearms are not for protecting property, there for protection of your life.
He not saying it not he just saying if you bring it to the wrong country you can end up going to prison and losing your freedom. That your choice if it wroth it or not. To him and many it wouldn’t be. Some countries would look very badly on it I must say I would want some kind of protection but it would’ve to be a legal kind because am not going to prison for anything.
Since I first watched this, I've met a person who was attacked while at anchor and he had a gun. He shot the gunman driving the boat, apparently killing him. The others fired back but one of them took over the helm and motored away at a high speed.
that's a good idea! LEO: IS THAT A CANNON!? SAILOR: OH THAT? ON THE BOW AND STERN? NAHH THOSE ARE DECORATIVE AND MAKES PEOPLE SECOND GUESS ROBBING ME. LEO: INTRESTING..I NOTICED YOU HAVE ALOT OF "DECORATIVE" CANNON BALLS ON YOUR RAILINGS. SAILOR: YEAH THEY SCREW ON SO I CAN THROW THEM IF NEEDED Mean while he has hidden powder sacks for quick re loads and the cannon balls quickly thread off the railings
that's a good idea! LEO: IS THAT A CANNON!? SAILOR: OH THAT? ON THE BOW AND STERN? NAHH THOSE ARE DECORATIVE AND MAKES PEOPLE SECOND GUESS ROBBING ME. LEO: INTRESTING..I NOTICED YOU HAVE ALOT OF "DECORATIVE" CANNON BALLS ON YOUR RAILINGS. SAILOR: YEAH THEY SCREW ON SO I CAN THROW THEM IF NEEDED Mean while he has hidden powder sacks for quick re loads and the cannon balls quickly thread off the railings
Been on the water for half of my life and my mother was leadership of an international shipping company. We always carry firearms. Her ships and crew all carry firearms. The fact is, when you've got nobody to depend upon but yourself then you need the right tools for the job. There is no better tool for self defense than a firearm. I get that your experience island hopping the Caribbean is done in large packs of other sailors. In that environment, maybe it's not so critical. However, the world is far larger than the Caribbean, it can be very dangerous, and 911 isn't reachable,... and you may not be, either.
I'll add another anecdote. I personally know a woman who was solo sailing in the Gulf of Mexico who was boarded in the middle of the night while sleeping. She did not have a firearm. She was kidnapped and drug to a jungle encampment in Colombia by guerillas. She was drugged and raped for 7 months until she was rescued in 2006 by the Colombian military after her family bribed the government to search for her. She spent 6 months in drug rehab after being brought back to the US and she has never sailed again. She has tremendous PTSD and permanent psychiatric issues. She told me that she regrets not having a firearm. Take that for what it's worth. If you dig around you can find more info about her story. I have heard many many stories and I have even experienced piracy at sea.
Oh, and by the way. Never sleep with an unlocked companionway. In Guatemala and Honduras sailors have been killed or hurt when they found intruders standing in their cabins and trying to mount an ineffectual defense from their bunk. Steel bars in hatches and companionways are worth there weight in gold. Be safe!
Guatemala and Honduras are two of the most dangerous places on the planet. You have to turn off AIS transmit because the pirates literally use it to find privately owned yachts, it tells them how big it is and if it’s privately owned. Big boat, big target. Just steer well clear of places like that.
From the little I know about guns onboard; it can be tricky. First, outside of territorial waters, boats are governed by their registered flag (e.g., US vessel in high seas, carrying gun is allowed). Each country has its own set of laws that apply. To avoid troubles, first check what are the applicable laws (sometimes guns are allowed but must be locked, sometimes guns are kept by the authorities from entry to departure, and sometimes guns are simply prohibited, sometimes authorization to carry gun can be requested prior to entry, etc..). Second, no matter what the rules are, always declare that you carry gun. Don't hide. Hiding guns will land you in jail in 99.99% of the cases + fines + vessel impounding. Finally, if you plan sailing in dangerous waters, check with international maritime organizations, and if you can afford, install an alert beacon onboard. As very well stated in the video, theft is the most frequent crime you may face. The best protection consists in making tools, engines, dinghy, and other accessories hard to take away.
I saw a You Tube video where a CO2 paintball gun was suggested and using rounds of very strong pepper balls instead of paint balls. These guns can carry huge amounts of rounds and can stop anybody in their tracks from a distance!! Non lethal minimizing the huge consequences of killing somebody with a lethal gun and Spending the rest of your life in prison in a third world country and becoming somebody’s bitch. In any self defense training rule number one is to never put your self in a situation or place where you are likely to become a victim. Rule number two is if You are in an area where the likelihood of becoming a victim is imminent then get the hell out of dodge as fast as your legs can carry You. Rule number three is if You are trapped and there is no way out You must try to negotiate and be ready to give up your wallet and other valuables. If it becomes clear that your life is in danger You MUST NEVER give the attacker any clue that You have martial arts training or other forms of combat training or that you are carrying a gun. The element of surprise means everything and when the time comes and you have a plan you must strike fast and hard and accurate to totally demobilize your attacker. If You have a gun You MUST have trained and trained and trained how to draw very fast and use it decisively and accurately and be prepared to pull the trigger either to wound or to kill if Your life depends on it!! The gun is the absolute last choice and bear in mind even if You are defending Your self You can still be charged in many countries. So Rule number one becomes the most important rule of them all!
This is a great example of why you shouldn't call or wait around for authorities if you have to shoot someone in defense of your life and or family while in the middle of the ocean
Nice video Tim. With the exception of the Bud Light I found it a great video about the pro’s and con’s of guns on a boat. What was most helpful was you spending money to add to the local economy of wherever you were visiting. Those vendors you purchased from keeping an eye out for you.
I agree. No self respecting Canuck should be drinking Bud Light. Molson or Labatts at least. Or if you are a bit of a beer snob like me Sleemans hits the mark.
The good news to me is I'd never lose a friend over this subject. Anyone that would deny me the right to defend myself is no friend. I don't plan to commit anything resembling a crime with a gun. I also don't ever plan to beg for my life or my earning possessions. I'm happy to have 2 brothers and a handful of friends that I trust. Not looking to form a big collection.
We love the North Channel! We're from Michigan and spent all last season up there, spent only 4 nights in a marina all season. Beautiful anchorages!! Bahamas this year!
I do not know why your comments were at all controversial. I am an American Pro 2nd Amendment dude, and have and will carry a gun on my boat. However, anything you said was simply good advice. Most people, like the unfortunate lady that was shot, should not be carrying firearms. It takes training and then more training to be proficient with your weapon. You simply pointed out a mild opinion, and let us know about the ease, or difficulty of bringing a firearm into a different country. Thank You for Your Balanced approach.
Having a gun onboard is always an interesting subject. This is ‘S.V. Salty Paws’, cruising the western Caribbean (presently in Rio Dulce, Guatemala because it is hurricane season & this is the best hurricane hole). We believe the key question with a gun on board and if you pull the gun are you mentally prepared to pull that trigger & kill someone’? This is a huge decision for the average person. If you have law-enforcement or military experience & have dealt with serious self defense & possibly death before, then this is one thing. But the average individual does not have this exposure. Never pull a gun as a scare tactic (as in the story you told in your video), you MUST be prepared to pull that trigger, because the group you are confronting may fear for their lives & move against you, in self defense too. Simply be smart & do not go into countries, or areas of countries where there are reports of yacht robberies & piracy. Stay well off-shore & by-pass areas. In other words, do not put yourself in harms way. Cheers and fair winds, Don & Dawn.
Yeah I always say that am 60 yrs old and I never needed the help of a cop because I look out for myself I don’t put myself in a bad spot. I never needed help and probably never will. Sometimes people are looking for trouble and find it. Some people get to brave just because they have their gun on them.
Wave a gun around is a please shoot me flag. I am afraid of 2 tools. Table saw and gun. Both can very much end bad. Both can improve a situation. In the case of gun improve a bad situation. I ripped down a 1x4 to a 1x3 today saved me a trip to the lumber yard. Both can take your head off. Kickback on a table saw? Fucking fast hard. Guns? We know the dangers
if using a gun is a huge decision for you, don't carry one. While you are trying to decide the bad guy will simply take it away from you and use it on you and those with you, or use their own weapon. There is also a high likelihood you will make a bad decision and shoot out of fear when you didn't need to.
When asked , we always say no we don’t have fire arms. In reality we have 2 PS90’s with 50 round mags. And 2 two 9 mm hand guns. Always say no to other cruisers. Never know who will set you up to be robbed.
@@GoogleAccount-w3n I don't live in living hell here in Finland. There is no gun violence, our police is well educated (3 year in uni), we have free education and healthcare for everyone. There is no super rich and no super poor, so allmost everybody are quite happy, no one die in hunger and there is just some 100-200 homeless people in whole country. There are crimes and criminals in Finland too but rate of crimes is quite low because most of people doing well and there is not so many desperate people than USA (we have NOT 1% of our citizen in prison like in USA). We have lot of guns here in Finland but if you want to buy gun officials check our mental health, you need to join hunting or shooting club etc. And almost every man need to service in army 6-12 months (I service as Military Police), so almost every man is familiar with guns and know how to handle guns. Guns are not fetish or object of love for Finnish, guns are just tools. So, it is not very likely that I become a victim here in Finland. Or Europe. I understand that in USA you need to be scared, there is lot of desperate people in USA.
Excellent video. I’m glad I found your channel. I keep a mariner 12 gauge onboard whenever I board. Surrendered my firearms many times but usually they seal my lockbox and that includes Cuba if it’s just a shotgun or a pistol.
I saw an interview with Keith from Sailing Zatara where he is asked that question. Without going into great detail, I am sure you can find it on youtube, he made some great points as to why they no longer carry a firearm. The one take away I got from it was that most piracy occurs within national waters, and every country they visited confiscated the firearm while the boat was in those waters. He said it was more of a hassle than it was worth because if they did get attacked the firearm was in some custom's office miles away. He also said that due to the myth of the "American Gun Culture" most people assumed they had a gun onboard just for the simple fact that they flew the Stars and Stripes.
Yes i saw that. As one person said. They pulled out a toy m16 and the problem went away. In 1975 my father and i were driving accross the nullabore and were stopped by about 50 local aboroginals intimadatin people for what they could get. This is the middle of no where. Anyway i pulled my pump action from beside the seat a in plain view and the waves parted. 2 hours and 150 miles later we reported to police and their comment was "thanks for that. They are up to that again.' And a police car with a few police took of down the road. You see often you just have to to think you might hurt the purpetrator and they go away. Sometimes easy meat is better than being potentially the dead meat. I have been shooting for more than 60 years. Its hard to tell a toy from the real thing and i will not rish my ass just in case its not a toy. Its another option to explore
thank you very much for your video. Many of us are interested in knowing options to protect our families and property, and knowing that firearms are problematic to move between countries, I suggest reviewing other options. for example, crossbows, special bullets for flare guns, Tasers, even pepper spray. Also talk about sirens and light beams; where to install them and best practices in their use.
Spear guns. Nobody will think twice about you having a spear gun on a boat. Some of them are very powerful. They are not great on range but if someone is boarding your boat it is going to be short-range.
Oh, wow, a North Channel season! We're strongly considering sailing our new Hughes 40 up from Toronto next year to visit friends in Superior, WI, including cruising around the North Channel. It'd be fun to cross paths. (Okay, our "new" Hughes 40 -- which is a Northstar, properly -- isn't "new" by any measure, she's just new to us.)
The regulations for bringing a firearm into different countries is confusing and can change. I read, in “Caribbean Island Hopping”, by John Wright, that the 12-gauge flare pistol will disintegrate a ¾” inch sheet of plywood at 40 yards. That is further than you need for personal protection, in most situations. And flare pistols are often mandatory to have on board.
Be very careful with flare guns from what Ive read many countries consider trigger operated flare guns to be firearms. The boat is required to have flares not flare guns. They expect you to have the tube with the pull string kind of flares.
You can fire 12 Guage through a flare gun in an emergency. Its not very safe, but here in alaska its used as bear protection. Many laws likely also ban ammunition though.
Great info and it's really what I expected. Bringing the gas cans in at night is a bit odd considering the fumes that might be dangerous. (I'm not sailing yet, but plan to)
It's now known as Alec Baldwin rule. Never point a gun at someone you would not kill. That gives the other person fear and will likely shoot to defend himself. It's just like a duel: the one who shoots first wins. No one is faster than a bullet.
Did those other cruisers NOT have firearms or did they TELL you they did not have a firearm? IF you were to ask me, the answer I give you is "no." UNLESS you search my boat, you will never know if I told you the truth or lied to you. Just a point.
Great topic, and a great video. Thanks for showing that common sense goes a long way. Definitely buying stuff off the local at the dock equals an instant security guard for the dingy...
Personally, I do carry a firearm on the boat, and plan to while cruising. Having fought in two wars, I just can't imagine not being able to protect myself and my family, and I have experience taking on...well, very aggressive insurgents/soldiers, and people in firefights. No problem there. But it's better to deal with a foreign court and be alive then tied to an anchor. Regardless, even if you lose the firefight you went down with your boots on...and made them earn the boarding with quite a few lives. Maybe it's the military in me, maybe it's because I was raised in Wyoming, who knows...but I would never allow myself to go down without a fight and taking some of the bastards with me. I can only speak for myself and my wife however, I understand that opinions and needs will be relative, so I also support everyone else's decision. As far as the countries that don't allow them? Well, there are ways to deal with that.
Of all people you should know how to protect yourself and family without a gun. You won’t do your family any good in some prison in some third world country.
Great video. I am a gun owner, though i have them for entertainment purposes or nostalgia more than home defense. Thinking of all the 'legal' things onboard that would repel an unwanted border. Would make a interesting video. Subscribed.
The only place i feel like i would really wan t to carry one is if i was sailing/ hiking/adventuring in areas where there was a possibility of encountering bears or moose. I would love to sail Alaska but wonder how hard it would be to get through Canada customs with a handgun.
My five cents. 1. It depends on which country you visit. The Western Caribbean is much more prone to attacks by locals, because of the history of civil wars and prevalence of weapons of war. Also theft is very common. 2. It depends on who is attacking you and how they are armed. You do not want to confront 5 guys armed with AK 47 when it is just you and your wife with a 38. Try to negotiate calmly or give up what they want. If you happened to cross the path of drug dealers, there is no good advice I can give. 3. Never permit anyone to approach you at night or board without you permission at any time. If they board anyway,, get below and lock yourself in behind steel bars and get a gun ready. If you speak the language, try to find out what they want and hand it to them from a safe spot. If they insist on breaking and entering, they will have a strong reason to do so, maybe rape, maybe kill or harm you, or they may be high on drugs or booze. In that case, I would warn them I am armed and will prevent them from entering at all cost. Then the decision is on them to leave or put themselves in harm's way. If they do, you know that bad things are going to happen, so start firing warning shots and aimed shots through the companionway. 4. Some people in high risk areas have scared boats off from approaching by brandishing guns or firing warning shots. It shows you are armed and ready to defend yourself. You may hurt an innocent fisherman's feelings, but in high risk areas it is worth a consideration. 5. When entering a country, declare your guns and have them secured. You won't need them on land. If your dinghy or your wife's necklace is stolen , go to the police, don't start a firefight. 6. In the Estern Caribbean, there is less danger. People just want to steal, not to kill. Living in the Western Caribbean for twenty years has taught me the danger of NOT being armed, as well as of using guns. I have escaped being killed by sheer luck, by being careful where NOT to go and by the right decisions made. Here, ignorant and desperate people carry weapons of war, the murder rates ate staggering and the perpetrators are seldom found. Often they act as killers for the drug cartels, that smuggle 90% of the US drug consumption by air and sea through this area. Be careful, please!!
No one needs a firearm until they do. Just like any other form of insurance. So, in your experience, 1 out of 300 cruisers admitted to having a gun onboard. Thats great intel. Thanks. How many of those 300 were solo sailors?
Ok I have guns on my boat i am a pro gun guy that said when I go crusing I won't. My understanding if you check in say in Havana you will need to check out in Havana. Puts a damper on plans. Patrick Childress sailing channel (RIP) Had 2 episodes on boat defence. The second one in comments there were great ideas. Fire extinguisher filled with hot pepper power for instance. I started looking into ideas. In Alaska they have 12v electric anti bear fences to protect a camp. Grounding would not be per instructions but I'm told it can be done on a boat. Gun is easy, you can use some inginuty and still be safe. Like a U.S. marine once told me "the only fair fight was the one you lost."
Good comment Scott. I'm with you on the pro gun side (2ndAmmendment) and I carry a CCW so in the USA I carry on the boat. My wife and I are planning a circumnavigation on retirement, and I won't be bringing my firearms. I also watched Patrick's videos on boat defense and there are some good ideas there. In one of his books (can't remember off hand which one) Fatty Goodlander outlines an alarm system he has used and recommendations for exterior boat lighting to discourage boarding. Then there is alway Joshua Slocum's "tacks on the deck."
@@deedcaro719 Being a Marine is not hard , any ammosexual with a GED can join run around Parris Island for a few weeks ,learn how to make your bed , fire a rifle proficiently and follow orders . Thousands do it every year .
Firearms are a USA thing, I have crusied in the Caribbean, South America, Bahamas and the USA. Very few non USA citizens carry a gun, a lot of USA citizens dump their guns overboard once they leave the USA as they find it's a lot of hassle importing them into different countries and actually they have no need of them.
Fast forward 2 years... Bud Light (ya, no controversy on this channel) and talking about guns. Way too funny. Spit my coffee out! And sirens too. Lol. Great videos.
wow you are addictive so far. thank you a lot ofstuff that you say and talk about in this video is all i have learnt having a motorhome travelling in spain ,morrocco and portugal.now that im turning my attention to sailing i hear you and agree on all you are saying .thank you .appreciated.
Read all the comments one mentioned Patrick Childress channel and a discussion on guns. It is a good read. I am a gun owner and have been all my life. At this time I will say a gun should be your last thing for defense. The first thing to use is you brain. Having a gun can lead to all kinds of problems the average person does not need. First of all most people are not trained to use a gun for self defense and I am including law officers. Using a gun and shooting it is not the mental state of mind that is needed for self defense. If you are not ready to kill a moment notice and most people are not showing a gun will get you killed. You pointed out the lady who pointed a gun was killed. Sadly that would not uncommon if it was a bad guy. If it wasn't a bad guy why point the gun. There all kinds way for self defense that don't put you in danger.....That could be a whole different tread .
And before the barrage, I mean you shouldn’t disclose to other boaters/cruisers that you have a firearm. Not disclosing to the proper authorities is never a good idea
For legal reasons from country to country I get why keeping a firearm on boat would be a problem. As an American, still free to own guns as I am writing this message, I cannot comprehend not having a gun with me at all times.
X-military, I am still pondering weather to take or not to. My concern is not in port or going to the market. You say the Caribbean is safe? What about off coast of Nicaragua? And now off coast of Venezuela? Out there is what’s concerns me.
Great video, lots of useful information. As a concealed carrier for years now, lots of training and practice, I can say, the lady who was shot, definitely was in the wrong. Rest her soul. You never pull a gun, especially never point it at someone, unless you're ready to fire. She definitely escalated the situation and may still be alive if she just let her husband attempt to deescalate verbally. At most, I would have gotten the gun, had it handy in that situation but kept it concealed until absolutely necessary. As others have said, I would be willing to bet more people than you realize have a gun for protection on board. There's very little to gain and a lot to lose by letting people know. Loose lips sink ships as they say.
A fire extinguisher 🧯 is what every boat has to have here in the USA. It’s as important as a flotation device for each person on board as well as flares and a sound horn.
@@aldona99 yeah. And a weapon is what every home should have to protect the inhabitants until the police arrive. Or do you think the bad people trying to break in and kill you will wait for the police if they are asked to do so. ?? No. A weapon levels the field a bit and give innocent victims a chance to survive until the police arrive. Just like a fire extinguisher does until the fire dept arrives.
Some countries have a caliber and ammo limit. MX for example will not let you bring in a gun caliber higher than 380 (9mm+ is illegal, 380 is 8.7mm). Bahamas will count the ammo and take pictures. All of them require it to be locked up with one key and some require a shot lock as well. For safety never carry it chambered... One big wave it and roll and should it go off your now sinking or worse. Just some little additions.
As someone who reloads both of these calibers I can assure you that 380 and 9mm are loaded with identical bullets. The only difference between the two are the case length of the 380 being 0.074” shorter than the 9mm Another misconception about firearms is that they can easily fire without actually pulling the trigger.Most modern quality firearms can be loaded cocked and dropped on concrete repeatedly with the safety off without discharging not that any one should attempt such a thing.Most handguns will only fire if you actually pull the trigger witch can take between 10-20# of force.Even with pulling the trigger some guns won’t fire with a round in the chamber because they need to be cocked first all though many firearms are cocked by the very act of chambering a round.Sorry for the long lecture but people need to understand how inherently safe firearms are.Certainly as a tool a gun is far safer than a car or chainsaw and kills less people butt like any tool can be deadly witch is why an operator of any tool should be competent and respectful of its power.I wish people were half as scared of cars as they are of guns.
Absolutely right about not leaving any gear out. We were docked at a marina for 1 night in Bimini while we went to "The Compleat Angler" and the beach tiki bar. Everything not locked down was stolen such as snorkeling gear left out to dry, the U.S. flag from the back stay, a sun shower bag, and even the Bahamian flag hung on the port stays. On that same trip, we first entered the Bahamas officially at Cat Key. The rifle I brought was no problem, just paperwork. My Dad's dog, however... was a big problem. I had previously sent away for forms I heard about in the cruising guide... But according to the Customs official that was "the wrong form". So he kindly took care of it for a C-note if you get my drift. Oh well, it was worth it ;)
Thank you for the information, I have been curious about this topic. If I end up trying this sailing lifestyle, I may have to find a high capacity flare gun 😊
So my question is 2 fold and I'm not sure if you can answer. The kind of sailing I'm going to be doing will be on the Great Lakes and up and down the East coast of the US. I'm a licensed CCW holder in the state of Ohio and obviously a US Citizen. What is the legality of taking a gun out into international waters say off the coast of the US, then re-entering US waters with it. And 2: If I'm out at sea just passing by a state, am I in state waters of federal waters? If that state doesn't share reciprocity with my CCW, I obviously can't take the gun off the boat. But what if I'm just sailing past or even just getting gas at a marina? I'm assuming the safe transport act would apply the same as if driving through on a car?
The best compromise I've seen is paintball guns that have pepper balls loaded. Paintball guns are considered non-guns in most all countries. That and pepper spray is about the only active defense against unarmed, no gun, intruders. Lights are another defense... make sure you have lights that will turn your boat into daylight if someone tries to get on board.
paintball with pepper balls is good ,, and there are handheld lights (torches) and large swivel lights (torches) that are so bright they literally blind you and make you see stars for a good 5 seconds ,,, hit them with a torch light first and then unload on them with the pepper balls ... i would still hide a revolver or 2 as last resort though
If you're going to pull a gun on someone you'd better be prepared to use it decisively. Otherwise, it will likely only serve to get you in trouble. Thus, as happened with that lady, a gun should not be used as part of a negotiation, and if you do have one, only use it in the last extremity (i.e., negotiations broken down, opposite guy clearly making to harm you).
Hi, I just stumbled across your posts. Already after 2 episodes I am very impressed. I am planning to go for a world sail after Corona or a bit later. Your statements about weapons on board are really much like I feel. At your quote for the Delos episode I smiled. Right now I am kind of locked in Moscow, Russia. I would like to stay in contact with you. Cheers Florian
Good vlog. You approached a touchy subject well. I would love to see you do a video on how you acquire your cruising skills. What advice do you have for a new sailor to learn about navigation, anchoring/mooring etc. I have a Catalina 25 across Lake St. Clair on the American side and I’m assuming during Covid and border closures I can’t even sail in Canadian waters?
My wife's uncle woke up in his boat in South America with a knife at his throat. He had two guns on his boat. Coast guard boarded and asked about guns. He said yes. Arrested, jailed. A retired judge took the case. Got off because this was his home, retired. But kept his guns! Between NJ & Pa fight over whose state he was in. Crazy!
You were specifically talking about being armed when going ashore. What about protection from being boarded while out to sea? I never figured I'd need a gun on land.
Jeremiah on Lazy Geckos carries (Marine), and they have episodes which show the check in/out procedures. Can't remember which country it was, perhaps it was T&C, that holds the gun until you leave.
I agree with most of what you said. Other channels have mentioned the waters off Panama especially to the east - northeast, Mexico except in tourist areas - in many areas just a block off tourist areas are controlled by gangs and cartels, east Africa - especially just north of South Africa and around Somalia, and around Thailand. There is a video off Panama where an apparent fast boat and mother ship like the Somali pirates use approach and the owner displays a shotgun. Everything I've see says the Carribean is safe for reasons you stated. Amazing how punishment can be a deterrent. Most counties that depend on tourists downplay or hide any crime. Many that allow firearms make it very difficult as you stated. Esysman covers a lot of this topic in a couple good videos as it pertains to super yachts. FYI: most of what I "know" is from other channels and books.
Firearms are like seat belts, not something you expect to need on any given day or hopefully ever but a prudent precaution and cheap insurance; for those who've had a reasonable amount of training (weapons, tactics, maintenance and relative legal). After serving 8 years as a combat arms soldier I'm perfectly comfortable being armed and prefer to be armed, just like I prefer to wear a seatbelt when driving...even though I've been driving for decades with zero accidents. The only issue with cruising is how much of a hassle dealing with international authorities would be with regard to carrying firearms onboard. BTW if I could only carry one gun on board it would be a shotgun. Pistols are very short range, dramatically underpowered relative to long guns and inherently difficult to shoot accurately. Unless you need to carry the weapon continually they aren't of much use for more than backup IMHO. Loaded with heavy buckshot or slugs shotguns are devastating weapons.
Thanks. This is such a sensible video and very connected advice. Thanks for your honesty and openness. In the UK the cruising community don’t really think about this and it’s never been a huge issue here because of our legislation but I think your advice is so helpful.
Corrosion resistant .44 Magnum or .45 Colt lever action carbine. Powerful, compact, good ammo capacity, utterly reliable, good balance, and does not look threatening to government officials, despite being quite powerful. Many countries are perfectly fine with transporting lever action rifles. They might need to be secured in a sturdy locker, though, while in port. With the right ammo, they can disable hostile boats, not to mention bad guys.
A gun of any sort is not meant to be used as a deterrent to crime. It is a tool in this case to be used to save your life. Once pulled it will only get you shot by the bad guys if you just display it.....
One discussion that I never see is that if one were to get into a gun fight with bad guys, there is ZERO good cover from high powered rifles on a boat.
Honestly the only time I'd deal with the hassle of bringing along a firearm is if I knew I'd be passing through costal waters of Nicaragua, or the Red Sea, and only because of piracy, not because I was worried about muggings ashore.
What you gonna do with your gun? Pirates have machine guns and that kind of stuff. We (every man) need to go to army here in Finland and we really know what to do with gun and what to NOT to do. You can do absolutely nothing against pirates with just hand gun or even with automatic rifle. Wake up, you are NOT movie hero who kill hundred enemy with hand gun and fancy moves.
@@ScotchIrishHoundsman Really? Did you remember that pirates (5-6 men on a boat) also have their FULL AUTO rifle and a few RPGs, so they have a lot more firepower. Their motorboat is 3-5 times faster and far more maneuverable. If you try to destroy this overwhelming enemy with your little weapon (FULL AUTO, of course) you are a very soon very sh*tty soldier because you sh*t your pants, before or after your death. John Rambo and Santa Claus are fictional characters. Imaginative things happen in movies and fairy tales. IRL one man in open terrain does not destroy an enemy that is numerically and technically superior. Grow up or wake up.
@@Beorninki It's called "hit the fking target" Shoot the captain and the fker to his right and the rest will likely run away. If not, fight like hell. A shot to the dome is a powerful thing. And don't aim to scare, get on target and shoot before they know you have a weapon. Shouldn't be hard for a trained soldier.
@@ScotchIrishHoundsman You don't remember that those pirates understand something about fighting too. They hit fking target too and they have much more firepower than you. NEVER underestimate enemy, enemy is NOT fool. Your "hit the fking target" may work against some kids on the street or sometimes against bad guys or soldiers too, if you are very lucky. But against poor pirates who really want your boat and money, your hit the fking target is just fantasy. Trained soldier is not bullet proof superman, he is just flesh, bones and blood. As I said almost every man need to go to army here in Finland. I am quite familiar with guns, I served as military police. I have no experience firearm battle but some experience with hand to hand combat IRL. I practice some 15 years martial arts too and I think that your thoughts about lonely sailor who kill many bad pirates with full auto rifle is just pure fantasy. Some of my friends are working on the cargo ships nearby somalia and they need warships to protect their ships against pirates.
so in the u.s the most paperwork you have when buying a gun maybe just a receipt. it all depends on what state you live in. some states still have private sales, in which case there is no paperwork for that.
AS THIS MAN SAYS DO SERIOUS RESEARCH ABOUT GOING TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY WITH SEVERAL WEAPONS!!!!! MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THEIR LAWS. Mexico, Cuba, Haiti, many other countries make gun ownership a real big thing.
I wonder how that is in the Philippines. I’m told by some other people that live there you’re not supposed to have one period, but with it being on the boat, I guess that’s a different situation. Thanks for the video.
Great discussion! Some ideas... I have a close friend who is a retired US Navy Seal. He personally built his own 38 ft steel hull sailboat to sail solo around the world. He was going to be in some known Piracy areas. His answer was he made four plywood hinged for stowage M-16 decoy guns. They were perfect plywood replicas spray painted black. From 10 yards away they looked real. He would hold one when he was approached by an unfriendly . And have the others displayed in the cockpit. His real assault weapon was numerous cans of WASP killer. Those things will shoot 20 feet in a blast. Hit the intruder in the face with Wasp killer and he can't breath and will be blinded. I thought he was brilliant!! No real guns on the boat but plenty of fire power !!
Interesting topic. I'm a big "gun guy" but I appreciate the hassle and legal liability the firearm represents. I wouldn't personally enjoy the frequent tense interactions with port authorities. Have you ever heard of boaters carrying dazzling lasers onboard to fend off the odd criminal? There's very powerful handheld units out there that would render attackers blind and/or burnt. Any idea of legality of such devices? Thanks, I look forward to any thoughts with interest. I found your advice on avoiding such scenarios in the first place very informative.
I GUARANTEE that more than one had a gun on board. The vast majority of those who have a gun on board don't tell anyone and don't admit it. Many of them will go as far as to act like they are against it in the first place. It mitigates many problems, and there's nothing to gain from others knowing you're armed...
You've never watched Customs guys search your boat, have you? Guaranteed they've thought of every hiding spot you have, and quite a few you haven't. When their only job is searching for stuff, even guys that don't look overly proficient get good at the one job they've got. I've been to shady places where I might feel better with a firearm, but chances are, they're also the places you least want to be in Prison for having an illegal firearm. The Bribes to get yourself out are probably more than anyone would steal anyway.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 I wasn't talking about not telling customs or your host country... Only other sailors. That's not something you try and hide from customs lol
Thats what im going to do once i get my boat going. Agreed on nothing to gain from telling other sailors or locals. Lol completely play dumb, straight outa the Army play book. Taught to always act like you dont know anything and never show anyone what you can do until a situation calls for it. MAD DOG MATTIS - Always be the nicest person in the room, but have a plan to kill everyone in it.
@@High_Desert_Tanner exactly, no gunners.....sigh
@@ser1es835 Lol,awsome!
If your boat isn't outfitted to deliver a full broadside you're doing it wrong.
AARGHH!
God bless you Sir, i thought for a minute Greta ruled the waves
AARGHH, HOIST THE COLORS AND RAISE THE BLACK!
Stand by the repel borders! In fact I do remember a talk with a guy who was managing a boat for some eccentric millionaire, and yes this owner did indeed want several historical cannons installed on deck, complete with one guy employed as a gunsmith to maintain them, and fire them off for ceremonial occasions. Interesting to see customs dealing with that - trying to confiscate them off the deck?
One of the best and most informative comments I have ever seen on youtube.
I never have firearms on the boat, unless I'm on it.
Man, I took all my firearms on a boat, and damn if we didn't capsize the thing in a hard turn and I lost them all to the bottom of the lake.
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Me too. Mine was in the Pacific
I swear gun owners are the absolute worst boat drivers.
Reminds me of a certain boat parade that made the news on September 5, 2020.
I've made my living as an oilfield service vessel captain (retired), traveling worldwide. Personal firearms for protection was always prohibited in foreign ports. However, as part of our safety gear, we were issued a 12 gauge Stevens line throwing gun. It shot a steel rod connected to a spool of messenger line. Always stowed mine in my state room, just in case....
I was thinking a good flare gun might be handy...
If I were sailing and another sailer or anyone for that matter ask if I had a gun onboard I would say no. I would not advertise I had one. That’s just me.
agreed
John Boone failing to notify authorities means prison!!… and that’s really when you’re gonna need it!!
So many people not willing to fight for what they have, our country is full of pussies...
Gary T. I was referring to other people in general, not authorities !
@@johnboone2581 well I hear 12 gauge shotgun shells work in a flare gun too...
As a future Pirate in training. Thank you for this great information. It is wonderful to know sailboats are gun free zones! 😉
Information can vary from boat to boat and free zones are not always guaranteed , especially on mine .😉
AAAR matey. a word of wisdom, a spear gun is just as deadly, if not a bit more scary.. consider having a bow hunter with you. .lol.. archery does pretty well on water.. just saying.
Damn that’s funny!!!
If you believe that I have an aircraft carrier I'd like to sell you.
Tim, I completely understand and respect your point of view. I would not expect to get struck by lightning either but it could happen. Same as being a victim.
My yacht got hit by lightning by the previous owner. Shit happens
Yeah is it wroth that one out of 20 changes for that to happen. It more likely that you will get caught with that gun and some of these countries you can go to prison for yrs and they are no joke. If a gun meant that much to me I would be sure where I bring it that it won’t cost me my freedom. My freedom means a lot to me. You can get lost in some of these countries.
It could happen, but how is having a gun going to help?. In most situations you would be outnumbered and in their area. If you are lucky and were able to fight them off then your problems will really start. The local police will just lock you up in a third world country unles you can pay your way out and your national government or embasy will be unable to lift a finger to help. Leave your gun at home and switch your brain on is the best advice I can give.
@@timphillips9954some people plant to surrender before a event even happens. Some people plan differently.
I got struck by lightning and shot within 50 days of each other this last year!
a guy I know who sailed around the world alone had an electric fence around the railing and a slingshot and a bag of half inch hexnuts. in one incident, the fence did the job and protected him, and once he had to shoot at an intruder on his boat with a hexnut. the formalities with guns, he said, are far too complicated if you sail internationally.
I know guys with sling shots for bait casting from their yachts. Hard to cast with a rod from a yacht.
Quarter inch hex nut, ball bearing or fishing weights to the face is not something I want to be hit with. Strong enough slingshot and it cracks your skull open like a raw egg.
@@thehawkeyesnest5208 exactly. so why hassle with a gun?
also in many countries air rifles are not guns, and nowadays they make really really big air rifles.
@@anonpers0n Good point. A big air rifle is capable of killing an elk.
If it comes to protecting my wife, friends or family, property being a second to all of that, there's no way you can convince me that I should not meet danger with extreme force. If you are on my boat or in my house uninvited, you forfeit your safety and your life to me.
Perfectly phrased! A warning to all pirates and thieves: real men still exist, especially in the boating community.
In a lot of Countries if you do that illegally by their Laws you will spend at least the next few years in Prison, and it will cost you everything you own to get out. And the chances are in a lot of poorer Countries any assailant won't have a firearm. America is the only Country other than the Philippines where everyone has a gun. Defending yourself with a fish spear or a gaff hook might be OK, but an illegal firearm will get you crucified. @James Adams - A lot of SE Asian Countries won't feed you enough in Prison to be a 'Real Man'. That kind of comes with the territory.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 simply shoot and scoot
Really ? Some dirt poor peasant is trying to steal your $30 dollar jerry can of diesel and you're going to take his life for a lousy $30? You're my hero.
@@robgorman8961 Where is your house? I'll come take whatever you deem less worthy than my life
I’m seeing this three years after the initial posting as I am considering getting back into sailing. As a “Gun Owner” the context of this video is spot on. Owning/possessing a firearm for self protection is a very different animal from general gun ownership. Mistakes are often permanent as are the consequences. There can be no place for misplaced bravado in your decision. Great video!
Very helpful. I really appreciate how you organize and present the information.
The language I prefer is from "gun" to "defensive firearm", which brings a clear context without all the political churn.
On the story regarding two individuals approaching in a boat at night: they would have eventually drawn the gun to get what they wanted. As someone trained (and former LEO) I suggest couples discuss how they will handle such situations and then follow the plan. Fortunately having some individuals approach and meaning to do harm takes time and time gives you some options. A bit different than when suddenly held up at an ATM.
I recommend Active Self Protection, a You Tube channel which is a great resource where you can learn from others mistakes and successes.
Never tell anyone you have firearms on the boat. Never show where you store them “hide” firearms are not for protecting property, there for protection of your life.
Absolutely last resort !
Unless that property is in your dwelling.
the sign of a good friendship... you can agree to disagree and still be friends. Personally I think it's a matter of personal choice.
He not saying it not he just saying if you bring it to the wrong country you can end up going to prison and losing your freedom. That your choice if it wroth it or not. To him and many it wouldn’t be. Some countries would look very badly on it I must say I would want some kind of protection but it would’ve to be a legal kind because am not going to prison for anything.
@@ratj4715 flare guns can make pirates think twice.
So do I, be a friend and don't let them become a victim for crying out loud! Wake up
Since I first watched this, I've met a person who was attacked while at anchor and he had a gun. He shot the gunman driving the boat, apparently killing him. The others fired back but one of them took over the helm and motored away at a high speed.
What country/state/province?
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ it was in international waters out on the ocean, but the attackers were probably from Venezuela.
While at anchor, out on the ocean, in international waters.... Something doesn't add up here mate.
My good buddy has a 4" Canon on the bow of his boat...no concealment needed
I carry mine under the belly...
that's a good idea!
LEO: IS THAT A CANNON!?
SAILOR: OH THAT? ON THE BOW AND STERN? NAHH THOSE ARE DECORATIVE AND MAKES PEOPLE SECOND GUESS ROBBING ME.
LEO: INTRESTING..I NOTICED YOU HAVE ALOT OF "DECORATIVE" CANNON BALLS ON YOUR RAILINGS.
SAILOR: YEAH THEY SCREW ON SO I CAN THROW THEM IF NEEDED
Mean while he has hidden powder sacks for quick re loads and the cannon balls quickly thread off the railings
that's a good idea!
LEO: IS THAT A CANNON!?
SAILOR: OH THAT? ON THE BOW AND STERN? NAHH THOSE ARE DECORATIVE AND MAKES PEOPLE SECOND GUESS ROBBING ME.
LEO: INTRESTING..I NOTICED YOU HAVE ALOT OF "DECORATIVE" CANNON BALLS ON YOUR RAILINGS.
SAILOR: YEAH THEY SCREW ON SO I CAN THROW THEM IF NEEDED
Mean while he has hidden powder sacks for quick re loads and the cannon balls quickly thread off the railings
Sadly, I lost my guns in a tragic boating accident.
Remember it's very common these days to lose your guns in a boating accident 🤣
Been on the water for half of my life and my mother was leadership of an international shipping company. We always carry firearms. Her ships and crew all carry firearms. The fact is, when you've got nobody to depend upon but yourself then you need the right tools for the job. There is no better tool for self defense than a firearm. I get that your experience island hopping the Caribbean is done in large packs of other sailors. In that environment, maybe it's not so critical. However, the world is far larger than the Caribbean, it can be very dangerous, and 911 isn't reachable,... and you may not be, either.
I'll add another anecdote. I personally know a woman who was solo sailing in the Gulf of Mexico who was boarded in the middle of the night while sleeping. She did not have a firearm. She was kidnapped and drug to a jungle encampment in Colombia by guerillas. She was drugged and raped for 7 months until she was rescued in 2006 by the Colombian military after her family bribed the government to search for her. She spent 6 months in drug rehab after being brought back to the US and she has never sailed again. She has tremendous PTSD and permanent psychiatric issues. She told me that she regrets not having a firearm. Take that for what it's worth. If you dig around you can find more info about her story. I have heard many many stories and I have even experienced piracy at sea.
Oh, and by the way. Never sleep with an unlocked companionway. In Guatemala and Honduras sailors have been killed or hurt when they found intruders standing in their cabins and trying to mount an ineffectual defense from their bunk. Steel bars in hatches and companionways are worth there weight in gold. Be safe!
Guatemala and Honduras are two of the most dangerous places on the planet. You have to turn off AIS transmit because the pirates literally use it to find privately owned yachts, it tells them how big it is and if it’s privately owned. Big boat, big target. Just steer well clear of places like that.
@@brownnoise357 No, an accidental discharge from a flare gun with a "machete stopper" 410 insert, blew the polycarbonate hatch out.
@@brownnoise357 Is 3/4 inch thick thin?
@@brownnoise357 Are you a democrap, you just won't accept a fact, and lost any rational brain function you may have had.
From the little I know about guns onboard; it can be tricky.
First, outside of territorial waters, boats are governed by their registered flag (e.g., US vessel in high seas, carrying gun is allowed).
Each country has its own set of laws that apply.
To avoid troubles, first check what are the applicable laws (sometimes guns are allowed but must be locked, sometimes guns are kept by the authorities from entry to departure, and sometimes guns are simply prohibited, sometimes authorization to carry gun can be requested prior to entry, etc..).
Second, no matter what the rules are, always declare that you carry gun. Don't hide. Hiding guns will land you in jail in 99.99% of the cases + fines + vessel impounding.
Finally, if you plan sailing in dangerous waters, check with international maritime organizations, and if you can afford, install an alert beacon onboard.
As very well stated in the video, theft is the most frequent crime you may face. The best protection consists in making tools, engines, dinghy, and other accessories hard to take away.
Who knew the bud light would end up being the most controversial part of this video haha
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Haha. I'm not even a minute in and the Bud Light can already tells me Lady K is a gun free zone😂
I saw a You Tube video where a CO2 paintball gun was suggested and using rounds of very strong pepper balls instead of paint balls. These guns can carry huge amounts of rounds and can stop anybody in their tracks from a distance!! Non lethal minimizing the huge consequences of killing somebody with a lethal gun and Spending the rest of your life in prison in a third world country and becoming somebody’s bitch. In any self defense training rule number one is to never put your self in a situation or place where you are likely to become a victim. Rule number two is if You are in an area where the likelihood of becoming a victim is imminent then get the hell out of dodge as fast as your legs can carry You. Rule number three is if You are trapped and there is no way out You must try to negotiate and be ready to give up your wallet and other valuables. If it becomes clear that your life is in danger You MUST NEVER give the attacker any clue that You have martial arts training or other forms of combat training or that you are carrying a gun. The element of surprise means everything and when the time comes and you have a plan you must strike fast and hard and accurate to totally demobilize your attacker. If You have a gun You MUST have trained and trained and trained how to draw very fast and use it decisively and accurately and be prepared to pull the trigger either to wound or to kill if Your life depends on it!! The gun is the absolute last choice and bear in mind even if You are defending Your self You can still be charged in many countries. So Rule number one becomes the most important rule of them all!
This is a great example of why you shouldn't call or wait around for authorities if you have to shoot someone in defense of your life and or family while in the middle of the ocean
Nice video Tim. With the exception of the Bud Light I found it a great video about the pro’s and con’s of guns on a boat. What was most helpful was you spending money to add to the local economy of wherever you were visiting. Those vendors you purchased from keeping an eye out for you.
Lol
Yes, don't you know that guns and alcohol don't mix!
I agree. No self respecting Canuck should be drinking Bud Light. Molson or Labatts at least. Or if you are a bit of a beer snob like me Sleemans hits the mark.
(north) American "beer"... 😂
So glad to be living in Germany atm
The good news to me is I'd never lose a friend over this subject. Anyone that would deny me the right to defend myself is no friend. I don't plan to commit anything resembling a crime with a gun. I also don't ever plan to beg for my life or my earning possessions. I'm happy to have 2 brothers and a handful of friends that I trust. Not looking to form a big collection.
We love the North Channel! We're from Michigan and spent all last season up there, spent only 4 nights in a marina all season. Beautiful anchorages!! Bahamas this year!
I do not know why your comments were at all controversial. I am an American Pro 2nd Amendment dude, and have and will carry a gun on my boat. However, anything you said was simply good advice. Most people, like the unfortunate lady that was shot, should not be carrying firearms. It takes training and then more training to be proficient with your weapon. You simply pointed out a mild opinion, and let us know about the ease, or difficulty of bringing a firearm into a different country. Thank You for Your Balanced approach.
Having a gun onboard is always an interesting subject. This is ‘S.V. Salty Paws’, cruising the western Caribbean (presently in Rio Dulce, Guatemala because it is hurricane season & this is the best hurricane hole). We believe the key question with a gun on board and if you pull the gun are you mentally prepared to pull that trigger & kill someone’? This is a huge decision for the average person. If you have law-enforcement or military experience & have dealt with serious self defense & possibly death before, then this is one thing. But the average individual does not have this exposure. Never pull a gun as a scare tactic (as in the story you told in your video), you MUST be prepared to pull that trigger, because the group you are confronting may fear for their lives & move against you, in self defense too. Simply be smart & do not go into countries, or areas of countries where there are reports of yacht robberies & piracy. Stay well off-shore & by-pass areas. In other words, do not put yourself in harms way. Cheers and fair winds, Don & Dawn.
Avoiding trouble is always the preferred option! Great advice.
very well put
Yeah I always say that am 60 yrs old and I never needed the help of a cop because I look out for myself I don’t put myself in a bad spot. I never needed help and probably never will. Sometimes people are looking for trouble and find it. Some people get to brave just because they have their gun on them.
Wave a gun around is a please shoot me flag. I am afraid of 2 tools. Table saw and gun. Both can very much end bad. Both can improve a situation. In the case of gun improve a bad situation. I ripped down a 1x4 to a 1x3 today saved me a trip to the lumber yard. Both can take your head off. Kickback on a table saw? Fucking fast hard. Guns? We know the dangers
if using a gun is a huge decision for you, don't carry one. While you are trying to decide the bad guy will simply take it away from you and use it on you and those with you, or use their own weapon. There is also a high likelihood you will make a bad decision and shoot out of fear when you didn't need to.
When asked , we always say no we don’t have fire arms. In reality we have 2 PS90’s with 50 round mags. And 2 two 9 mm hand guns. Always say no to other cruisers. Never know who will set you up to be robbed.
Sad story. You live in hell if you need to be so scary.
Why the PS90 instead of an AR or AK? Ammo for both is much easier to come by.
@@Beorninkiyou will become a victim with that mindset.
@@crashm1light ammo and the speed of a missile work for u.
@@GoogleAccount-w3n I don't live in living hell here in Finland. There is no gun violence, our police is well educated (3 year in uni), we have free education and healthcare for everyone. There is no super rich and no super poor, so allmost everybody are quite happy, no one die in hunger and there is just some 100-200 homeless people in whole country. There are crimes and criminals in Finland too but rate of crimes is quite low because most of people doing well and there is not so many desperate people than USA (we have NOT 1% of our citizen in prison like in USA). We have lot of guns here in Finland but if you want to buy gun officials check our mental health, you need to join hunting or shooting club etc. And almost every man need to service in army 6-12 months (I service as Military Police), so almost every man is familiar with guns and know how to handle guns. Guns are not fetish or object of love for Finnish, guns are just tools. So, it is not very likely that I become a victim here in Finland. Or Europe. I understand that in USA you need to be scared, there is lot of desperate people in USA.
Thank you for a very level-headed commentary on what can be a very divisive topic. And looking forward to the North Channel series.
Excellent video. I’m glad I found your channel.
I keep a mariner 12 gauge onboard whenever I board. Surrendered my firearms many times but usually they seal my lockbox and that includes Cuba if it’s just a shotgun or a pistol.
I saw an interview with Keith from Sailing Zatara where he is asked that question. Without going into great detail, I am sure you can find it on youtube, he made some great points as to why they no longer carry a firearm. The one take away I got from it was that most piracy occurs within national waters, and every country they visited confiscated the firearm while the boat was in those waters. He said it was more of a hassle than it was worth because if they did get attacked the firearm was in some custom's office miles away. He also said that due to the myth of the "American Gun Culture" most people assumed they had a gun onboard just for the simple fact that they flew the Stars and Stripes.
Yes i saw that. As one person said. They pulled out a toy m16 and the problem went away. In 1975 my father and i were driving accross the nullabore and were stopped by about 50 local aboroginals intimadatin people for what they could get. This is the middle of no where. Anyway i pulled my pump action from beside the seat a in plain view and the waves parted. 2 hours and 150 miles later we reported to police and their comment was "thanks for that. They are up to that again.' And a police car with a few police took of down the road. You see often you just have to to think you might hurt the purpetrator and they go away. Sometimes easy meat is better than being potentially the dead meat. I have been shooting for more than 60 years. Its hard to tell a toy from the real thing and i will not rish my ass just in case its not a toy. Its another option to explore
in international waters, rules applied onboard are those of the vessel's flag
A topic I was curious about, thanks for bringing it up.
You don’t have to believe in guns. All you need to know is criminals surely do.
thank you very much for your video. Many of us are interested in knowing options to protect our families and property, and knowing that firearms are problematic to move between countries, I suggest reviewing other options. for example, crossbows, special bullets for flare guns, Tasers, even pepper spray. Also talk about sirens and light beams; where to install them and best practices in their use.
Spear guns. Nobody will think twice about you having a spear gun on a boat. Some of them are very powerful. They are not great on range but if someone is boarding your boat it is going to be short-range.
Oh, wow, a North Channel season! We're strongly considering sailing our new Hughes 40 up from Toronto next year to visit friends in Superior, WI, including cruising around the North Channel. It'd be fun to cross paths.
(Okay, our "new" Hughes 40 -- which is a Northstar, properly -- isn't "new" by any measure, she's just new to us.)
The regulations for bringing a firearm into different countries is confusing and can change.
I read, in “Caribbean Island Hopping”, by John Wright, that the 12-gauge flare pistol will disintegrate a ¾” inch sheet of plywood at 40 yards. That is further than you need for personal protection, in most situations. And flare pistols are often mandatory to have on board.
I mite have to look into a box of shot gun shells in double "00"...
Please don't fire live ammunition from a flare gun. Probably will not end well.
I know from personal experience a flare gun with shot gun shells will blow up in your hand. Please don't try it.
Be very careful with flare guns from what Ive read many countries consider trigger operated flare guns to be firearms. The boat is required to have flares not flare guns. They expect you to have the tube with the pull string kind of flares.
You can fire 12 Guage through a flare gun in an emergency. Its not very safe, but here in alaska its used as bear protection. Many laws likely also ban ammunition though.
Great info and it's really what I expected. Bringing the gas cans in at night is a bit odd considering the fumes that might be dangerous. (I'm not sailing yet, but plan to)
It's now known as Alec Baldwin rule. Never point a gun at someone you would not kill. That gives the other person fear and will likely shoot to defend himself. It's just like a duel: the one who shoots first wins. No one is faster than a bullet.
Did those other cruisers NOT have firearms or did they TELL you they did not have a firearm? IF you were to ask me, the answer I give you is "no." UNLESS you search my boat, you will never know if I told you the truth or lied to you. Just a point.
Great topic, and a great video. Thanks for showing that common sense goes a long way. Definitely buying stuff off the local at the dock equals an instant security guard for the dingy...
Personally, I do carry a firearm on the boat, and plan to while cruising. Having fought in two wars, I just can't imagine not being able to protect myself and my family, and I have experience taking on...well, very aggressive insurgents/soldiers, and people in firefights. No problem there. But it's better to deal with a foreign court and be alive then tied to an anchor.
Regardless, even if you lose the firefight you went down with your boots on...and made them earn the boarding with quite a few lives. Maybe it's the military in me, maybe it's because I was raised in Wyoming, who knows...but I would never allow myself to go down without a fight and taking some of the bastards with me.
I can only speak for myself and my wife however, I understand that opinions and needs will be relative, so I also support everyone else's decision.
As far as the countries that don't allow them? Well, there are ways to deal with that.
Of all people you should know how to protect yourself and family without a gun. You won’t do your family any good in some prison in some third world country.
Great video. I am a gun owner, though i have them for entertainment purposes or nostalgia more than home defense. Thinking of all the 'legal' things onboard that would repel an unwanted border. Would make a interesting video. Subscribed.
The first part of seeing your firearm should be the muzzle flash. Never reveal unless you are prepared to kill.
The only place i feel like i would really wan t to carry one is if i was sailing/ hiking/adventuring in areas where there was a possibility of encountering bears or moose. I would love to sail Alaska but wonder how hard it would be to get through Canada customs with a handgun.
Excellent. Thanks man. Had loads of questions.
My five cents.
1. It depends on which country you visit. The Western Caribbean is much more prone to attacks by locals, because of the history of civil wars and prevalence of weapons of war. Also theft is very common.
2. It depends on who is attacking you and how they are armed. You do not want to confront 5 guys armed with AK 47 when it is just you and your wife with a 38. Try to negotiate calmly or give up what they want. If you happened to cross the path of drug dealers, there is no good advice I can give.
3. Never permit anyone to approach you at night or board without you permission at any time. If they board anyway,, get below and lock yourself in behind steel bars and get a gun ready. If you speak the language, try to find out what they want and hand it to them from a safe spot. If they insist on breaking and entering, they will have a strong reason to do so, maybe rape, maybe kill or harm you, or they may be high on drugs or booze. In that case, I would warn them I am armed and will prevent them from entering at all cost. Then the decision is on them to leave or put themselves in harm's way. If they do, you know that bad things are going to happen, so start firing warning shots and aimed shots through the companionway.
4. Some people in high risk areas have scared boats off from approaching by brandishing guns or firing warning shots. It shows you are armed and ready to defend yourself. You may hurt an innocent fisherman's feelings, but in high risk areas it is worth a consideration.
5. When entering a country, declare your guns and have them secured. You won't need them on land. If your dinghy or your wife's necklace is stolen , go to the police, don't start a firefight.
6. In the Estern Caribbean, there is less danger. People just want to steal, not to kill.
Living in the Western Caribbean for twenty years has taught me the danger of NOT being armed, as well as of using guns. I have escaped being killed by sheer luck, by being careful where NOT to go and by the right decisions made. Here, ignorant and desperate people carry weapons of war, the murder rates ate staggering and the perpetrators are seldom found. Often they act as killers for the drug cartels, that smuggle 90% of the US drug consumption by air and sea through this area. Be careful, please!!
No one needs a firearm until they do. Just like any other form of insurance. So, in your experience, 1 out of 300 cruisers admitted to having a gun onboard. Thats great intel. Thanks. How many of those 300 were solo sailors?
As what I know.... A US registered and Flagged Vessel is considered US territory. And since we have the 2nd Amendment...
Ok I have guns on my boat i am a pro gun guy that said when I go crusing I won't. My understanding if you check in say in Havana you will need to check out in Havana. Puts a damper on plans. Patrick Childress sailing channel (RIP) Had 2 episodes on boat defence. The second one in comments there were great ideas. Fire extinguisher filled with hot pepper power for instance. I started looking into ideas. In Alaska they have 12v electric anti bear fences to protect a camp. Grounding would not be per instructions but I'm told it can be done on a boat. Gun is easy, you can use some inginuty and still be safe. Like a U.S. marine once told me "the only fair fight was the one you lost."
Good comment Scott. I'm with you on the pro gun side (2ndAmmendment) and I carry a CCW so in the USA I carry on the boat. My wife and I are planning a circumnavigation on retirement, and I won't be bringing my firearms. I also watched Patrick's videos on boat defense and there are some good ideas there. In one of his books (can't remember off hand which one) Fatty Goodlander outlines an alarm system he has used and recommendations for exterior boat lighting to discourage boarding. Then there is alway Joshua Slocum's "tacks on the deck."
Damn it man. Your statement is so true. Nobody and I mean nobody fights to lose..
@@erichyney6287 Marines have lost every fight they got into since WW2 so they should stay the fuck at home
@@deedcaro719 Being a Marine is not hard , any ammosexual with a GED can join run around Parris Island for a few weeks ,learn how to make your bed , fire a rifle proficiently and follow orders . Thousands do it every year .
@Retired & Restless So Shrub was a leftist who knew . What about the Draft Dodger in Chief that Salutes North Korean Generals is he leftist also ?
Don't ask , don't tell
Firearms are a USA thing, I have crusied in the Caribbean, South America, Bahamas and the USA. Very few non USA citizens carry a gun, a lot of USA citizens dump their guns overboard once they leave the USA as they find it's a lot of hassle importing them into different countries and actually they have no need of them.
If solid channel right here! I like that information, no bs just real information. Lady K!
Thanks for watching!
Fast forward 2 years... Bud Light (ya, no controversy on this channel) and talking about guns. Way too funny. Spit my coffee out! And sirens too. Lol. Great videos.
wow you are addictive so far. thank you a lot ofstuff that you say and talk about in this video is all i have learnt having a motorhome travelling in spain ,morrocco and portugal.now that im turning my attention to sailing i hear you and agree on all you are saying .thank you .appreciated.
Tim, keep putting out videos! I love your real life stuff. It's not all roses out there, but it sure looks fun! Keep it up!
Read all the comments one mentioned Patrick Childress channel and a discussion on guns. It is a good read. I am a gun owner and have been all my life. At this time I will say a gun should be your last thing for defense. The first thing to use is you brain. Having a gun can lead to all kinds of problems the average person does not need. First of all most people are not trained to use a gun for self defense and I am including law officers. Using a gun and shooting it is not the mental state of mind that is needed for self defense. If you are not ready to kill a moment notice and most people are not showing a gun will get you killed. You pointed out the lady who pointed a gun was killed. Sadly that would not uncommon if it was a bad guy. If it wasn't a bad guy why point the gun.
There all kinds way for self defense that don't put you in danger.....That could be a whole different tread .
And before the barrage, I mean you shouldn’t disclose to other boaters/cruisers that you have a firearm. Not disclosing to the proper authorities is never a good idea
For legal reasons from country to country I get why keeping a firearm on boat would be a problem. As an American, still free to own guns as I am writing this message, I cannot comprehend not having a gun with me at all times.
X-military, I am still pondering weather to take or not to. My concern is not in port or going to the market. You say the Caribbean is safe? What about off coast of Nicaragua? And now off coast of Venezuela? Out there is what’s concerns me.
Don't go to places that you feel you need a gun.
Great video, lots of useful information. As a concealed carrier for years now, lots of training and practice, I can say, the lady who was shot, definitely was in the wrong. Rest her soul. You never pull a gun, especially never point it at someone, unless you're ready to fire. She definitely escalated the situation and may still be alive if she just let her husband attempt to deescalate verbally. At most, I would have gotten the gun, had it handy in that situation but kept it concealed until absolutely necessary. As others have said, I would be willing to bet more people than you realize have a gun for protection on board. There's very little to gain and a lot to lose by letting people know. Loose lips sink ships as they say.
I have a fire extinguisher too. And it is loaded.
Not because I think there might be a fire, but just in case there is a fire,,,
I am prepared.
A fire extinguisher 🧯 is what every boat has to have here in the USA. It’s as important as a flotation device for each person on board as well as flares and a sound horn.
@@aldona99 I think you might have missed the subtext.
@@svlulalime9293 guess I did
@@aldona99 yeah. And a weapon is what every home should have to protect the inhabitants until the police arrive. Or do you think the bad people trying to break in and kill you will wait for the police if they are asked to do so. ?? No.
A weapon levels the field a bit and give innocent victims a chance to survive until the police arrive. Just like a fire extinguisher does until the fire dept arrives.
How many people die from fire extinguishers each year? Is it zero? I bet it is zero.
Some countries have a caliber and ammo limit. MX for example will not let you bring in a gun caliber higher than 380 (9mm+ is illegal, 380 is 8.7mm). Bahamas will count the ammo and take pictures. All of them require it to be locked up with one key and some require a shot lock as well. For safety never carry it chambered... One big wave it and roll and should it go off your now sinking or worse.
Just some little additions.
As someone who reloads both of these calibers I can assure you that 380 and 9mm are loaded with identical bullets. The only difference between the two are the case length of the 380 being 0.074” shorter than the 9mm Another misconception about firearms is that they can easily fire without actually pulling the trigger.Most modern quality firearms can be loaded cocked and dropped on concrete repeatedly with the safety off without discharging not that any one should attempt such a thing.Most handguns will only fire if you actually pull the trigger witch can take between 10-20# of force.Even with pulling the trigger some guns won’t fire with a round in the chamber because they need to be cocked first all though many firearms are cocked by the very act of chambering a round.Sorry for the long lecture but people need to understand how inherently safe firearms are.Certainly as a tool a gun is far safer than a car or chainsaw and kills less people butt like any tool can be deadly witch is why an operator of any tool should be competent and respectful of its power.I wish people were half as scared of cars as they are of guns.
@@SOLDOZER the technical term is accidental discharge.
@@SOLDOZER awesome! Don't think i ever declared to be an "expert".
Absolutely right about not leaving any gear out. We were docked at a marina for 1 night in Bimini while we went to "The Compleat Angler" and the beach tiki bar. Everything not locked down was stolen such as snorkeling gear left out to dry, the U.S. flag from the back stay, a sun shower bag, and even the Bahamian flag hung on the port stays.
On that same trip, we first entered the Bahamas officially at Cat Key. The rifle I brought was no problem, just paperwork. My Dad's dog, however... was a big problem. I had previously sent away for forms I heard about in the cruising guide... But according to the Customs official that was "the wrong form". So he kindly took care of it for a C-note if you get my drift. Oh well, it was worth it ;)
Thank you for the information, I have been curious about this topic. If I end up trying this sailing lifestyle, I may have to find a high capacity flare gun 😊
So my question is 2 fold and I'm not sure if you can answer. The kind of sailing I'm going to be doing will be on the Great Lakes and up and down the East coast of the US. I'm a licensed CCW holder in the state of Ohio and obviously a US Citizen. What is the legality of taking a gun out into international waters say off the coast of the US, then re-entering US waters with it. And 2: If I'm out at sea just passing by a state, am I in state waters of federal waters? If that state doesn't share reciprocity with my CCW, I obviously can't take the gun off the boat. But what if I'm just sailing past or even just getting gas at a marina? I'm assuming the safe transport act would apply the same as if driving through on a car?
The best compromise I've seen is paintball guns that have pepper balls loaded. Paintball guns are considered non-guns in most all countries. That and pepper spray is about the only active defense against unarmed, no gun, intruders. Lights are another defense... make sure you have lights that will turn your boat into daylight if someone tries to get on board.
paintball with pepper balls is good ,, and there are handheld lights (torches) and large swivel lights (torches) that are so bright they literally blind you and make you see stars for a good 5 seconds ,,, hit them with a torch light first and then unload on them with the pepper balls ... i would still hide a revolver or 2 as last resort though
If you're going to pull a gun on someone you'd better be prepared to use it decisively. Otherwise, it will likely only serve to get you in trouble. Thus, as happened with that lady, a gun should not be used as part of a negotiation, and if you do have one, only use it in the last extremity (i.e., negotiations broken down, opposite guy clearly making to harm you).
Hi, I just stumbled across your posts. Already after 2 episodes I am very impressed.
I am planning to go for a world sail after Corona or a bit later.
Your statements about weapons on board are really much like I feel. At your quote for the Delos episode I smiled.
Right now I am kind of locked in Moscow, Russia.
I would like to stay in contact with you.
Cheers
Florian
You might want to check "Lazy Gecko Sailing" channel. They carry while abroad and often discuss the process at each island.
@@SOLDOZER I diddnt know that.
I'm curious about hunting. Where do liveaboards n cruisers who enjoy hunting (say deer, duck, etc) keep their firearms?
While walking around can we carry pepper spray for personal protection. I keep some in purse and sometimes clipped to bag.
Good vlog. You approached a touchy subject well. I would love to see you do a video on how you acquire your cruising skills. What advice do you have for a new sailor to learn about navigation, anchoring/mooring etc. I have a Catalina 25 across Lake St. Clair on the American side and I’m assuming during Covid and border closures I can’t even sail in Canadian waters?
Thanks for the great information! Simple and direct with the information. Safe travels.
My wife's uncle woke up in his boat in South America with a knife at his throat.
He had two guns on his boat. Coast guard boarded and asked about guns. He said yes. Arrested, jailed. A retired judge took the case. Got off because this was his home, retired. But kept his guns! Between NJ & Pa fight over whose state he was in. Crazy!
I didn’t catch the part if it’s legal or not and what countries/ports allow it or don’t allow it?????
This is very useful and thoughtful. Thank you.
as a full time cruiser including the Caribbean. 22 gauge alloy flair gun . 12 gauge insert ss. one in each hand is great of the coast if ven lol
You were specifically talking about being armed when going ashore. What about protection from being boarded while out to sea? I never figured I'd need a gun on land.
Jeremiah on Lazy Geckos carries (Marine), and they have episodes which show the check in/out procedures. Can't remember which country it was, perhaps it was T&C, that holds the gun until you leave.
I agree with most of what you said. Other channels have mentioned the waters off Panama especially to the east - northeast, Mexico except in tourist areas - in many areas just a block off tourist areas are controlled by gangs and cartels, east Africa - especially just north of South Africa and around Somalia, and around Thailand. There is a video off Panama where an apparent fast boat and mother ship like the Somali pirates use approach and the owner displays a shotgun. Everything I've see says the Carribean is safe for reasons you stated. Amazing how punishment can be a deterrent.
Most counties that depend on tourists downplay or hide any crime. Many that allow firearms make it very difficult as you stated.
Esysman covers a lot of this topic in a couple good videos as it pertains to super yachts.
FYI: most of what I "know" is from other channels and books.
6:04 loved being in Haiti 🇭🇹 🌞 🏝️ ⛵️
1st time I've seen the topic on this. thank you.
Firearms are like seat belts, not something you expect to need on any given day or hopefully ever but a prudent precaution and cheap insurance; for those who've had a reasonable amount of training (weapons, tactics, maintenance and relative legal). After serving 8 years as a combat arms soldier I'm perfectly comfortable being armed and prefer to be armed, just like I prefer to wear a seatbelt when driving...even though I've been driving for decades with zero accidents. The only issue with cruising is how much of a hassle dealing with international authorities would be with regard to carrying firearms onboard.
BTW if I could only carry one gun on board it would be a shotgun. Pistols are very short range, dramatically underpowered relative to long guns and inherently difficult to shoot accurately. Unless you need to carry the weapon continually they aren't of much use for more than backup IMHO. Loaded with heavy buckshot or slugs shotguns are devastating weapons.
Thanks. This is such a sensible video and very connected advice. Thanks for your honesty and openness. In the UK the cruising community don’t really think about this and it’s never been a huge issue here because of our legislation but I think your advice is so helpful.
Hey thanks man!!!! pure info no bs
Corrosion resistant .44 Magnum or .45 Colt lever action carbine. Powerful, compact, good ammo capacity, utterly reliable, good balance, and does not look threatening to government officials, despite being quite powerful. Many countries are perfectly fine with transporting lever action rifles. They might need to be secured in a sturdy locker, though, while in port. With the right ammo, they can disable hostile boats, not to mention bad guys.
A gun of any sort is not meant to be used as a deterrent to crime. It is a tool in this case to be used to save your life. Once pulled it will only get you shot by the bad guys if you just display it.....
I always had a gun and never told anyone 🤣🤣
Theres no firearm on my boat but there is a loose cannon...
One discussion that I never see is that if one were to get into a gun fight with bad guys, there is ZERO good cover from high powered rifles on a boat.
Spot on. But that doesn't mean one need roll over. Every situation will be different. Sometimes it's wise to wait your turn.
Honestly the only time I'd deal with the hassle of bringing along a firearm is if I knew I'd be passing through costal waters of Nicaragua, or the Red Sea, and only because of piracy, not because I was worried about muggings ashore.
What you gonna do with your gun? Pirates have machine guns and that kind of stuff. We (every man) need to go to army here in Finland and we really know what to do with gun and what to NOT to do. You can do absolutely nothing against pirates with just hand gun or even with automatic rifle. Wake up, you are NOT movie hero who kill hundred enemy with hand gun and fancy moves.
@@Beorninki If you can't stop pirates with a full auto, you are a sh*tty soldier.
@@ScotchIrishHoundsman Really? Did you remember that pirates (5-6 men on a boat) also have their FULL AUTO rifle and a few RPGs, so they have a lot more firepower. Their motorboat is 3-5 times faster and far more maneuverable. If you try to destroy this overwhelming enemy with your little weapon (FULL AUTO, of course) you are a very soon very sh*tty soldier because you sh*t your pants, before or after your death. John Rambo and Santa Claus are fictional characters. Imaginative things happen in movies and fairy tales. IRL one man in open terrain does not destroy an enemy that is numerically and technically superior. Grow up or wake up.
@@Beorninki It's called "hit the fking target" Shoot the captain and the fker to his right and the rest will likely run away. If not, fight like hell. A shot to the dome is a powerful thing. And don't aim to scare, get on target and shoot before they know you have a weapon. Shouldn't be hard for a trained soldier.
@@ScotchIrishHoundsman You don't remember that those pirates understand something about fighting too. They hit fking target too and they have much more firepower than you. NEVER underestimate enemy, enemy is NOT fool. Your "hit the fking target" may work against some kids on the street or sometimes against bad guys or soldiers too, if you are very lucky. But against poor pirates who really want your boat and money, your hit the fking target is just fantasy. Trained soldier is not bullet proof superman, he is just flesh, bones and blood. As I said almost every man need to go to army here in Finland. I am quite familiar with guns, I served as military police. I have no experience firearm battle but some experience with hand to hand combat IRL. I practice some 15 years martial arts too and I think that your thoughts about lonely sailor who kill many bad pirates with full auto rifle is just pure fantasy. Some of my friends are working on the cargo ships nearby somalia and they need warships to protect their ships against pirates.
I would rather have one and never need it than need it and not have it.
I totally agree.
Really great explanation on guns on boats , cleared up a lot for me. Thank you.
so in the u.s the most paperwork you have when buying a gun maybe just a receipt. it all depends on what state you live in. some states still have private sales, in which case there is no paperwork for that.
good info my wife and i are moving on a boat soon and i plan on having my guns on bored thanks for the info
AS THIS MAN SAYS
DO SERIOUS RESEARCH ABOUT GOING TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY WITH SEVERAL WEAPONS!!!!! MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THEIR LAWS. Mexico, Cuba, Haiti, many other countries make gun ownership a real big thing.
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Great channel well done Covering a Lotta good topics
I wonder how that is in the Philippines. I’m told by some other people that live there you’re not supposed to have one period, but with it being on the boat, I guess that’s a different situation. Thanks for the video.
Great discussion! Some ideas... I have a close friend who is a retired US Navy Seal. He personally built his own 38 ft steel hull sailboat to sail solo around the world. He was going to be in some known Piracy areas. His answer was he made four plywood hinged for stowage M-16 decoy guns. They were perfect plywood replicas spray painted black. From 10 yards away they looked real. He would hold one when he was approached by an unfriendly . And have the others displayed in the cockpit. His real assault weapon was numerous cans of WASP killer. Those things will shoot 20 feet in a blast. Hit the intruder in the face with Wasp killer and he can't breath and will be blinded. I thought he was brilliant!! No real guns on the boat but plenty of fire power !!
Interesting topic. I'm a big "gun guy" but I appreciate the hassle and legal liability the firearm represents. I wouldn't personally enjoy the frequent tense interactions with port authorities. Have you ever heard of boaters carrying dazzling lasers onboard to fend off the odd criminal? There's very powerful handheld units out there that would render attackers blind and/or burnt. Any idea of legality of such devices? Thanks, I look forward to any thoughts with interest. I found your advice on avoiding such scenarios in the first place very informative.