As an owner of an Island Packet I want to compliment you on your assessment. Very accurate. At 40k lbs wet, I like to describe mine as a mini battleship.
I have seen the IP370 many times at the Annapolis boat show, and have always been impressed by how substantial, comfortable, and safe it seemed. It makes Catalina and Beneteau look like cheap fair weather boats. Thanks for the excellent review. Steve O
Flew to BVI about a year ago to check out an Island Packet 38 which I had under contract. I was certainly pleased with her spotless condition, layout and extra gear. She had in mast mainsail which I am a big fan of, and good quality head sails. However, once we got off the mooring and started to sail my interest began to fade quickly. It was a typical BVI day, winds in the 7 to 12 knot range with a small sea running. Regardless of the point of sail the boat was dog slow. I am not a racer but I do expect some performance, and this boat did n to have it. Subsequently , I bought a Contest 38s which sails extremely well, while still providing livable accommodations and a high quality built. I was surprised you did not raise the issue of Island Packet's problem with chain plates in that you did a whole episode regarding them on your personal You Tube channel. Potential buyers should be aware of those issues which have arisen, especially when the title of this video is "What You Should Know".
370 chainplates are less of an issue due annealed 316L steel and weep holes and at least by 2022 there was no known failures with them. Still, the owner should re-bed the chainplate covers every 2-3 years to make sure there is no chance that water ever even gets there.
@@captratty2167 I had a Yankee 30 for 15 years. Bought it in 1988. When I was 25. Sailed from Hawaii to everywhere in South pacific for 10 years and back. Boat sailed very well. Regular 160 mile days in the trades. I have a tayana 37 now. Past 20 years I am much more comfortable at sea and and anchor and older now at 60. I loved that Yankee 30 . Great first boat.
And the IP is not plastic? Do tell…Of course serious cruisers go steel, but are doomed to forever chip rust and paint. Unless you have a willing crew, the best boat for cruising is the one you can comfortably sail solo, lets you sleep at sea and racks up good daily passage times. Then when it’s done, doesn’t require shore-side help to dock. I’m sure that IP make a good boat, but there are other builders just as good, or better….
The Island Packet is one of very few sailboats still built in the USA. The basic design has been perfected over 30 years, and the quality of materials and construction is impeccable. Many people misunderstand the use case, though, which is a shorthanded (a retired couple) extensively cruising or living aboard around Florida and in the Bahamas in the winter and sailing to the US NorthEast coast for the summer. It has a shallow draft, long keel, protected prop and rudder, excellent ventilation, a roomy cockpit, a comfortable galley, great sleeping accommodations, and tons of storage space. Great tankage also. BTW, quite a few Island Packets circumnavigated with no drama - this is a great trade wind vessel, very comfortable for the crew on any point of sail. My favorite of all time is an Island Packet 420, though...
Hi Tim-Linda here and still in the Bahamas. Your final product was well done. Thanks for allowing us to be a part of this. Our FB friends knew it was really us you were quoting when you referred to us grabbing a beer from the fridge. 😂. I hope our input helps others looking to live their dreams. Keep up the good work! ⛵️
Great to see you here at Practical Sailor! I have been watching your channel for years, so I know you pairing with them is going to make an awesome team.
Kid...... I'm gunna make you a star.... no, wait? you already are. Always enjoy your show and it's truly a benefit to the sailing community. Cheers from the captain of the Black Whale
lady K viewer here. I Like the in depth review and how you list the pros AND the cons. As an owner of a full keel boat(1980 Baba 30), a bow thruster I’d say is a must and as soon as I can afford it I’d like to add one to mine.
Concur with all said in this as an owner of a 2008 IP370. This is my 7th sailboat and my last two were ocean going catamarans. I'm living on her in the San Francisco Bay Area and getting ready to sail down to Mexico and beyond later this year - against the common characterization of arm chair sailors. Many Island Packets in remote places around the world, and the sea kindly motion and self tending vs. the cats (which I sailed across the Atlantic) make it a snap to single hand.
Well you had me hook line and sinker. I never pass up an IPY video - bought my 370 a year ago and enjoy it immensely. I’ll take safety and give up a knot in comparison. Sure the cost was more but the resale is also holding its own. Plan to enjoy for years to come! ⚓️💙
My favorite IP was the original centerboard equipped 31. Good pointing ability and shallow draft. Go anywhere and sit upright, if necessary, when you get there.
Tim Nice Review, Island packets are more expensive, and you do feel safer. I have frequently been out in 25 to 35 Knot winds on my IP40 and she purrs. Sadly, I am selling my IP40 this week, however I am remaining loyal to the brand and buying an IP439. I looked at dozens of other boats but always came back to IP. The build quality and factory support are unrivaled.
Welcome and thank you, learning a lot. Looking to do some solo sailing and need to learn a bit more about the different vessels available. Love the idea of the Loop too.😊👍
As an IP 370 owner, I couldn’t agree more with your review. I just completed a mostly single handed trip to Maine and back and can verify that this boat is very single hand friendly and fun to sail anywhere with just about any wind. It’s interesting to watch other boat hauling in sail when wind speeds exceed 25 knots and the 370 is ready for more. You will have to shorten sail at 35 knots on the beam though.
I would have liked to have a 380 but found out a 350 was just enough for me and my dog. The boat and the IPYOA community is amazing. #116 "But A Dream" Also, congratulations working with Practical Sailor now.
I always knew the island packet was a great boat for offshore stuff, and this was useful to hear about exactly why. I’d love to hear your opinion about the older Moody boats. I’m in the middle of a refit on a 1986 Moody 34 and ponder how far I have to go.
Go Linda. Wish we where awith you guys. Only one thing can be taken from this video, it is SOLD I will take it. With this kind of information no boats will ever be for sale. Guess knowledge is power no matter on land or at sea. This Video gets an A++.
Glad to see PS joining the UA-cam world. Your C-380 (I'm a C-387 owner) and this article were very interesting and I look forward to future articles. How about something on Pacific Seacraft?
Another great video, Tim! As for future topics, I would love to see a video around money management while cruising distant waters. My sense is, a lot of the people and places you run into are not going to take plastic. Think the locals paddling up to your boat offering fresh fish or produce. So what’s the best way to cover this? How much cash do people tend to carry on board? Is the U.S. dollar pretty universally accepted? If not, is it a constant chore to be changing money as you travel from country to country? Tips and wisdom would be very useful to a wannabe cruiser like myself.
Interesting that you didn't show concern regarding the in-mast furling for an ocean boat Tim. I have a real fear of the system jamming, and the only time it will usually jamb is when it's blowing hard and needs to be furled. It won't jamb when the whole sail is out. That's easy, release the halyard and pull it down. But if it's partially furled and then won't release the only alternative is the knife, and that with great difficulty. Steer me straight if you have something I haven't thought of when the furler fails at the worst moment. I've had it happen on a boat when the wind wasn't blowing hard, just a regular "put the sail away" decision. It wasn't fun. Although slab reefing is more cumbersome, it's about as reliable as it can get. Great video!
I’ve sailed furling mains for over a decade. Had two jams which were remedied in less than five minutes. Once you’ve learned how to remedy it’s not very hard. More often than not the jam occurs when you deploy it, not when you’re furling it in.
Different experiences, different results. A sudden squall and the furler jammed after about 3 turns, the outhaul caught against the inside of the mast behind the furler. With the force of the wind on the sail and the effort required to start the furling process (a winch) we were unable to clear the jamb. Ended up heading into the wind under power and losing the leach of the main. Not my boat, I was just crew on an overnight coastal race, and this was a long time ago. But that encounter, in heavy rain and in the darkness, turned me away from in-mast furling. To each his own......
@@BertVermeerSailingI have had jams with standard main, but none at all with my fairly new Facnor. With a furling main, I'm almost never out of the safety of the cockpit.
On a charter boat in Greece last year had the in mast furler jam in only 10 knots of wind. OK so it was a charter boat and maybe had been abused. But never had an issue with old school slab reefing, so will stick to that, thank you. I would regard in mast furling as a deal breaker, along with teak decks and sail drives (grabs hat & coat).
Your sails need to be in good shape. Not bagged out. When in good shape they furl and unfurl like a piece of cake. Had my original to the boat 2002 main sail jam coming out for 45 minute in 2022 on IP420. New Mack sails, in and out super easy. Easy to furl when wind gets too much. I also use a Mikita 1/2 right angle cordless drill with Harken winch adapter to furl and unfurl main, furl jib and stay sail and hoist the dinghy. Work smarter not harder. Makes my 420 super easy to single hand. 420 #70
small criticism from what I'm seeing so far: Your vid/aud quality on Lady K FAR exceed these first 2 videos on Practial. Of course, the info is great as always.
I do love IP ‘s they were on my short list for my last and final boat . But I found Bristol yachts, and I would argue that they are a better boat. Not many people know a lot about them but at a closer look I believe they are a better blue water boat .
My final boat is a Bristol 40-the boat I always aspired to. It has classic good looks. Today’s boats are ugly in comparison and off-putting in their extreme complication.
Liking what you are doing for Practical Sailor! I tend to nerd out on electrical stuff, so any content along that line would be appreciated. Especially diving into 24 or 48v setups for your house bank etc. When you want to invert 2-3000 watts of power, high voltages just make a lot of sense to me. I'm testing out a 24v setup in my garage right now to see if I want to go that route on my boat.
Good review of the traditional Island Packet 370, but you should take a look at the next generation IP 349, which shares a hull with the 370. MANY of the drawbacks you point out in the 370 have been solved by Darrell Allen the new owner if Island Packet/Seaward Yachts -- amazingly without losing all of the "battleship" traits you point out of the previous generation. I purchased a new 349 in 2021 and we absolutely love it!
Looking at a IP 370 in Florida and living in Washington state. Now relocating to Cebu philippines as my girlfriend lives there and I love all the islands and she scuba dives. My issue is transporting it there. I know it is costly. The availability of good sailboats is limited there. I am searching companies to that transport sailboats but most only transport motor yachts and will not a sailboat. About 10000 miles sailing or 6+ weeks. The west coast of the US does not have a good choice of sailboats. Enjoyed your review of the 370. Always liked the IP 370. Insurance for a sailboat is over 2× of the US. Marinas are nonexistent in the Philippines, and the ones there look like getting in cities in the US and water as dirty as sewage. Love the Philippines but it lacks inforstruture, not because of not real moder but good away from cities and experts moved there an they treat it badly. They are into trafficking very young Filipinas to old retarded boys.
The comment on preinstalled pull through lines and full length conduits is on the money. I have a whole bucket of negative words for Southerly who built my 135 as they seem to have gone out of their way to make it difficult to add anything else to this boat. To run the hoses end to end for the hydronic heating nearly killed me. I was dead lucky to find a path to run the cabling for the solar power, it would have been so much easier to have created these path ways at the construction stage. One thing you might find interesting, I decided to add a wind vane but am fitting a solar arch that extends to the end of the sugar scoop. But after some thought I have decided to cut a hole through the sugar scoop and install a glassed in bearing tube for the wind vane assembly. This tube finishes flush with the step, and a removable steering tube shaft which is supported by the solar arch frame above. The wind vane assembly that does the driving I discovered is not very complicated and fits under the solar panels to allow the vane itself to be either forward of aft of the end of the solar panels. It is going to be an interesting experiment, but I am keen to have a system that is just not there when not needed, but can be set up in 5 minutes.
I love all your videos. As an ex Royal Navy a=Artificer and a sailor I value the fine traditions of the sea. So it is like nails down the black board when you say things like 'bedrooms' Yours Aye, Buster
Sorry about that. Part of my vernacular stems from trying to make sailing more accessible to new people who get scared off by the language. I noticed also, when a boat has teak and holly under the feet I tend to call it a sole but, when it’s laminate I call it a floor. I’m weird sometimes.
Maybe you could touch on where or who we can get hard to find parts for sail boats that are no longer in production. The island packet my wife and I considered one, beautiful but tight and slow Awesome video,hope this site grows leaps and bounds we need this.
Really enjoyed this video and last weeks Catalina 380 review. I’ve been a longtime subscriber of your show and enjoy it - so much so that I am now a subscriber to the practical sailer magazine - thank you. If you ever want a review or feedback from a Catalina 36 owner, give me a shout!
Hey Tim, Good to see you here from Lady K channel. Love your comments. You asked us what we'd like you to review next? How about an aluminium hull boat? Specifically French made Allures 40.9 (regrettably now discontinued) or 45.9? Thank you!
Well done for joining Practical Sailor, this is great content and you're such a great man for the channel! My only suggestion is to use a clip on microphone and you might want to get a diffuser for your lights. Watching from Vanuatu...can't believe I am the first to comment :)
I have seen several of your boat reviews and the one thing I have never heard you mention if sea berths. The Island Packet is designed to sail long distance but it seems to only have 2 twin berths. Where do you sleep at sea? I defy anyone to get a good night's sleep on a double berth when rolling down the trades, you need a narrow berth with a lee cloth or preferably a padded leeboard on any boat that lays claim to being 'bluewater'
Hi Tim , can you do a vid on electronics ? It's an absolute nightmare trying to figure out what to get and compatibility between different manufacturers. Radar , navigation , fishfinder , AIS , autopilot , VHF etc , etc. It would probably take several episodes to cover it all.
Hi Tim, LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!! congrats on getting the PS gig!!! Background is kinda sterile! Also bigger pix when on our left!!! Liked your lady K background better. More inviting and relaxing!!! Keep doing a great job!!!!
The IP 370 became the IP 379. I absolutely love that boat and want one like no other. During the pandemic they discontinued making the 379. I think it may have something to do with your comment about insurance? I don't know that for sure but I thought it was very unfortunate that they made that decision. The IP 349 is similar in length but has less beam. I would love to see you do a video about Gozzard. Perhaps the 41RC.
IP is on my short list, when I can buy, but so is Amel. Love the Sharki and Maramu 46. Not sure I'd want an Amel Super Maramu though, don't like the layout, but and Amel 54, YES!
This is my dream boat. Nope, idc I won't win Thursday nights, idc I'll be making the odd extra tack & yes I will practice bringing my older IP into tight berths. Probably not a great first boat, however. _Off to Lady K next. I assume they drop together to pick up a 2-in-1 & you guys have differentiation in mind better than I do. Cheers._
Curious if you guys ever incorporate sailing footage in your vids? I haven't seen any yet. I think it would very much enhance the stories and keep the interest peaked.
And by the way -- the old problem of a "slow boat" has been solved with the advent of the new solent rig with a 170 headsail, while still retaining the self tacking jib. Genius!
The new ownership of IP allows the person who orders a new boat to pick the hull color and amount of exterior teak. As a result most newer IPs have zero exterior teak but the majority still have "Island Packet cream" hull color
Maybe you could do a segment on Gulfstars. They are not known as great boats but my friend has a 47' that sails very well and seems pretty well built for an older production boat.
Agreed there are great older cruising boats. Has your friend mentioned any isssues with getting insurance. Salty Dawg Sailing Ass. Just did an insurance zoom meeting. Insurers do not want to insure older (30 yrs or more) boats.
Review more pocket cruisers for us old folks that day sail and occasional overnight or short few day cruising. Examples may include old O'Day 28s, Catalina 27, 28mii, and 30s, or go small with a Pacific Seacraft Dana 24!
Hi Tim, No mention of chainplate issues with IPYs. Is it because this is an IPY 370 and they were made with the better stainless steel grade? Thank you for the review and congrats on the new pastime!
Congratulations on your new position with Practical Sailor. I love your videos. One of your previous videos on the IPs warns of Chain Plate issues with the IPs built before 2000. Can you do a video of Chain Plate Repairs ----Actually go to the company doing them and show the process. Give detailed pricing. I love the IPs but am very leery now of their known Chain Plate issues -----and the potential 20-30K repair price. Also their is a significant price break on the IP 27s, 31s, 32s vrs the IP35s and the IP37s. The 35s and 37s are more than twice the price some times 4 times the price. Also, can you use the Chain Plate issue when negotiating price on any IP packet built before 2000???????
Hi. Good review! Have you looked at the Island Packet 29? I own a 1997, actually the last one built. I want to go offshore with it, but am nervous because of the size. Would you be willing to review one?
A strongly built smaller boat, which you have, would do well. Smaller boats just have less room for more people and all the conveniences of home. You know a lightbulb can survive a storm when something big breaks up. People have crossed oceans in dinghy-sized boats.
@@susanc.8009 Thats what I keep hearing, but I cant find many stories of an IP29 going to Bermuda and then the Caribbean. How would it do in a storm at that size? I also have a sloop and would have to modify.
Have owned a IP 380, an IP 27 and currently an IP 32…have also owned a Catalina 27, a Beneteau 350 & 360, a Jenneau 37 , an Oday 30 and a old Westerly 31..yes, my wife and I are addicts. All of these boats have their positives and negatives. We are obviously cruisers, not racers. That said, of them all, nothing ..NOTHING !..beats the quality of an IP..even with the chain plates and tankage issues. Best quote I ever heard was ..” step on one, sail it, spend a day on it and it’s yours…and they sail better than you might have been lead to believe..One heck of a sailboat..
@@practical-sailor I like to play only one time for something good. I don’t have enough money to pay twice, when I buy something in the first place just for learning 😉 Thanks 🙏 I will check it out
Great video- Thank you! ...I'm currently sailing a Cape Dory 30cutter and would never sail anything but a cutter rigged boat. Interested in going up to a 38-40 and strongly considered this IP370. Most I know say to go with another CD or a Pacific Seacraft for a good bluewater overbuilt sailboat. Please give me your thoughts on this, and why. ...Thank you again very much.
What is the catamaran version of an Island Packet? Most production cats I've come across seem to be more floating apartment than 'battle axe'. Used to think probably a Neel trimaran but I've since learned of serious production issues so looking for another boat to dream about
Every time I hear you talking about a boat, the value for everyone owning one goes up. I hope you never talk about my dream boat until after I buy it.
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@@SOLDOZER quite the presumption
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As an owner of an Island Packet I want to compliment you on your assessment. Very accurate. At 40k lbs wet, I like to describe mine as a mini battleship.
I have seen the IP370 many times at the Annapolis boat show, and have always been impressed by how substantial, comfortable, and safe it seemed. It makes Catalina and Beneteau look like cheap fair weather boats. Thanks for the excellent review. Steve O
Flew to BVI about a year ago to check out an Island Packet 38 which I had under contract. I was certainly pleased with her spotless condition, layout and extra gear. She had in mast mainsail which I am a big fan of, and good quality head sails. However, once we got off the mooring and started to sail my interest began to fade quickly. It was a typical BVI day, winds in the 7 to 12 knot range with a small sea running. Regardless of the point of sail the boat was dog slow. I am not a racer but I do expect some performance, and this boat did n to have it. Subsequently , I bought a Contest 38s which sails extremely well, while still providing livable accommodations and a high quality built.
I was surprised you did not raise the issue of Island Packet's problem with chain plates in that you did a whole episode regarding them on your personal You Tube channel. Potential buyers should be aware of those issues which have arisen, especially when the title of this video is "What You Should Know".
370 chainplates are less of an issue due annealed 316L steel and weep holes and at least by 2022 there was no known failures with them. Still, the owner should re-bed the chainplate covers every 2-3 years to make sure there is no chance that water ever even gets there.
Slow boat with a bowsprit? No thanks. I will stick to my S&S Yankee 30 and go anywhere the IP will go, cheaper and faster.
@@captratty2167 I had a Yankee 30 for 15 years. Bought it in 1988. When I was 25. Sailed from Hawaii to everywhere in South pacific for 10 years and back. Boat sailed very well. Regular 160 mile days in the trades.
I have a tayana 37 now. Past 20 years I am much more comfortable at sea and and anchor and older now at 60.
I loved that Yankee 30 . Great first boat.
And the IP is not plastic? Do tell…Of course serious cruisers go steel, but are doomed to forever chip rust and paint. Unless you have a willing crew, the best boat for cruising is the one you can comfortably sail solo, lets you sleep at sea and racks up good daily passage times. Then when it’s done, doesn’t require shore-side help to dock.
I’m sure that IP make a good boat, but there are other builders just as good, or better….
The Island Packet is one of very few sailboats still built in the USA. The basic design has been perfected over 30 years, and the quality of materials and construction is impeccable. Many people misunderstand the use case, though, which is a shorthanded (a retired couple) extensively cruising or living aboard around Florida and in the Bahamas in the winter and sailing to the US NorthEast coast for the summer. It has a shallow draft, long keel, protected prop and rudder, excellent ventilation, a roomy cockpit, a comfortable galley, great sleeping accommodations, and tons of storage space. Great tankage also. BTW, quite a few Island Packets circumnavigated with no drama - this is a great trade wind vessel, very comfortable for the crew on any point of sail. My favorite of all time is an Island Packet 420, though...
Tim congratulations on the new gig. You are the best man for the job. Just like PS, you keep it real.
Hi Tim-Linda here and still in the Bahamas. Your final product was well done. Thanks for allowing us to be a part of this. Our FB friends knew it was really us you were quoting when you referred to us grabbing a beer from the fridge. 😂. I hope our input helps others looking to live their dreams. Keep up the good work! ⛵️
Great to see you here at Practical Sailor! I have been watching your channel for years, so I know you pairing with them is going to make an awesome team.
Practical sailor made a magnificent choice here
Kid...... I'm gunna make you a star.... no, wait? you already are.
Always enjoy your show and it's truly a benefit to the sailing community.
Cheers from the captain of the
Black Whale
lady K viewer here. I Like the in depth review and how you list the pros AND the cons. As an owner of a full keel boat(1980 Baba 30), a bow thruster I’d say is a must and as soon as I can afford it I’d like to add one to mine.
Haven't heard of a Baba 30 before, just googled it...sweet!! There's a few YT videos on them, good looking vessel indeed.
@@harbourdogNL thanks. Yeah it’s a classic Bob Perry design
IP 420 as my first sailboat, easy to learn on and solid as can be! Very tight community as well!
I’ve sailed that boat in the Channel islands for 3 days. Great boat!
Great review Tim.
So happy you are leading this Practical Sailor UA-cam initiative.
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Oh yeah, IPY 370, nice boat 🙂
Tim so glad to see you up on Practical Sailor!!!
Concur with all said in this as an owner of a 2008 IP370. This is my 7th sailboat and my last two were ocean going catamarans. I'm living on her in the San Francisco Bay Area and getting ready to sail down to Mexico and beyond later this year - against the common characterization of arm chair sailors. Many Island Packets in remote places around the world, and the sea kindly motion and self tending vs. the cats (which I sailed across the Atlantic) make it a snap to single hand.
I dreamed of owning an Island packet
Ended up with a Catalina 380.
I'm glad I got the 380..
Well you had me hook line and sinker. I never pass up an IPY video - bought my 370 a year ago and enjoy it immensely. I’ll take safety and give up a knot in comparison. Sure the cost was more but the resale is also holding its own. Plan to enjoy for years to come! ⚓️💙
My favorite IP was the original centerboard equipped 31. Good pointing ability and shallow draft. Go anywhere and sit upright, if necessary, when you get there.
Great job. We are in Salvador, Brazil, waiting for the winds to turn.
Tim Nice Review, Island packets are more expensive, and you do feel safer. I have frequently been out in 25 to 35 Knot winds on my IP40 and she purrs. Sadly, I am selling my IP40 this week, however I am remaining loyal to the brand and buying an IP439. I looked at dozens of other boats but always came back to IP. The build quality and factory support are unrivaled.
Welcome and thank you, learning a lot. Looking to do some solo sailing and need to learn a bit more about the different vessels available. Love the idea of the Loop too.😊👍
Great video. As a co-owner and new to sailing the video was very informative. My husband is the Old Salt ;)
Great feedback. We were looking at the 370 as a possible live aboard.
As an IP 370 owner, I couldn’t agree more with your review. I just completed a mostly single handed trip to Maine and back and can verify that this boat is very single hand friendly and fun to sail anywhere with just about any wind. It’s interesting to watch other boat hauling in sail when wind speeds exceed 25 knots and the 370 is ready for more. You will have to shorten sail at 35 knots on the beam though.
I would have liked to have a 380 but found out a 350 was just enough for me and my dog. The boat and the IPYOA community is amazing. #116 "But A Dream" Also, congratulations working with Practical Sailor now.
I've been a PS subscriber for years and I'm really liking these videos -- thanks for doing them and keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
I always knew the island packet was a great boat for offshore stuff, and this was useful to hear about exactly why.
I’d love to hear your opinion about the older Moody boats. I’m in the middle of a refit on a 1986 Moody 34 and ponder how far I have to go.
Loved this! The IP 370 is high on my list, so getting this detailed look assures me this will be a good choice.
One of the very best reviews I've been pleased to view. Very honestly informative, thanks so much from an old sea dog! FWCS fair winds...
Tim! Its always good to see you.
Go Linda. Wish we where awith you guys. Only one thing can be taken from this video, it is SOLD I will take it. With this kind of information no boats will ever be for sale. Guess knowledge is power no matter on land or at sea. This Video gets an A++.
Excellent coverage of the Island Packet. We’ve got the IP 44 And she’s a Beast.
Glad to see PS joining the UA-cam world. Your C-380 (I'm a C-387 owner) and this article were very interesting and I look forward to future articles. How about something on Pacific Seacraft?
Another great video, Tim!
As for future topics, I would love to see a video around money management while cruising distant waters. My sense is, a lot of the people and places you run into are not going to take plastic. Think the locals paddling up to your boat offering fresh fish or produce. So what’s the best way to cover this? How much cash do people tend to carry on board? Is the U.S. dollar pretty universally accepted? If not, is it a constant chore to be changing money as you travel from country to country? Tips and wisdom would be very useful to a wannabe cruiser like myself.
Interesting that you didn't show concern regarding the in-mast furling for an ocean boat Tim. I have a real fear of the system jamming, and the only time it will usually jamb is when it's blowing hard and needs to be furled. It won't jamb when the whole sail is out. That's easy, release the halyard and pull it down. But if it's partially furled and then won't release the only alternative is the knife, and that with great difficulty. Steer me straight if you have something I haven't thought of when the furler fails at the worst moment. I've had it happen on a boat when the wind wasn't blowing hard, just a regular "put the sail away" decision. It wasn't fun. Although slab reefing is more cumbersome, it's about as reliable as it can get. Great video!
I’ve sailed furling mains for over a decade. Had two jams which were remedied in less than five minutes. Once you’ve learned how to remedy it’s not very hard. More often than not the jam occurs when you deploy it, not when you’re furling it in.
Different experiences, different results. A sudden squall and the furler jammed after about 3 turns, the outhaul caught against the inside of the mast behind the furler. With the force of the wind on the sail and the effort required to start the furling process (a winch) we were unable to clear the jamb. Ended up heading into the wind under power and losing the leach of the main. Not my boat, I was just crew on an overnight coastal race, and this was a long time ago. But that encounter, in heavy rain and in the darkness, turned me away from in-mast furling. To each his own......
@@BertVermeerSailingI have had jams with standard main, but none at all with my fairly new Facnor. With a furling main, I'm almost never out of the safety of the cockpit.
On a charter boat in Greece last year had the in mast furler jam in only 10 knots of wind. OK so it was a charter boat and maybe had been abused. But never had an issue with old school slab reefing, so will stick to that, thank you. I would regard in mast furling as a deal breaker, along with teak decks and sail drives (grabs hat & coat).
Your sails need to be in good shape. Not bagged out. When in good shape they furl and unfurl like a piece of cake. Had my original to the boat 2002 main sail jam coming out for 45 minute in 2022 on IP420. New Mack sails, in and out super easy. Easy to furl when wind gets too much.
I also use a Mikita 1/2 right angle cordless drill with Harken winch adapter to furl and unfurl main, furl jib and stay sail and hoist the dinghy. Work smarter not harder.
Makes my 420 super easy to single hand.
420 #70
Excellent as always. Keep it true as you always do and tell the the good and so-so and bad. Everything is a comprise.
small criticism from what I'm seeing so far: Your vid/aud quality on Lady K FAR exceed these first 2 videos on Practial. Of course, the info is great as always.
Great video Tim. You impart important insights coupled with a very entertaining style. Thanks again, I really enjoyed the ride! Marty
I think you are adding a ton of value to PS. Nice job.
Loved the review Tim. Be grateful if Practical Sailor reviews the Hylas 46.
Your videos are really professional. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great job with all these videos Tim!
I do love IP ‘s they were on my short list for my last and final boat . But I found Bristol yachts, and I would argue that they are a better boat. Not many people know a lot about them but at a closer look I believe they are a better blue water boat .
Who's looking to "argue"? Relax, mon! Life can be good on any sailboat. :-)
My final boat is a Bristol 40-the boat I always aspired to. It has classic good looks. Today’s boats are ugly in comparison and off-putting in their extreme complication.
@@SOLDOZER Good troll statement, I suggest you recheck your numbers
@@SOLDOZER And that reason is...? ;-)
@@BlackheartCharlie I’d argue you don’t know the full definition of argue.
Liking what you are doing for Practical Sailor! I tend to nerd out on electrical stuff, so any content along that line would be appreciated. Especially diving into 24 or 48v setups for your house bank etc. When you want to invert 2-3000 watts of power, high voltages just make a lot of sense to me. I'm testing out a 24v setup in my garage right now to see if I want to go that route on my boat.
Good review of the traditional Island Packet 370, but you should take a look at the next generation IP 349, which shares a hull with the 370. MANY of the drawbacks you point out in the 370 have been solved by Darrell Allen the new owner if Island Packet/Seaward Yachts -- amazingly without losing all of the "battleship" traits you point out of the previous generation. I purchased a new 349 in 2021 and we absolutely love it!
Looking at a IP 370 in Florida and living in Washington state. Now relocating to Cebu philippines as my girlfriend lives there and I love all the islands and she scuba dives. My issue is transporting it there. I know it is costly. The availability of good sailboats is limited there. I am searching companies to that transport sailboats but most only transport motor yachts and will not a sailboat. About 10000 miles sailing or 6+ weeks. The west coast of the US does not have a good choice of sailboats. Enjoyed your review of the 370. Always liked the IP 370. Insurance for a sailboat is over 2× of the US. Marinas are nonexistent in the Philippines, and the ones there look like getting in cities in the US and water as dirty as sewage. Love the Philippines but it lacks inforstruture, not because of not real moder but good away from cities and experts moved there an they treat it badly. They are into trafficking very young Filipinas to old retarded boys.
I love all Practical Sailor videos!
As always, good, honest and useful content. Thank you!
Catalina 42 MkII. I know you like these, can you please review like you did the 380 and today's IP370? Thanks Tim.
Great information, and great to see your new channel..
The comment on preinstalled pull through lines and full length conduits is on the money. I have a whole bucket of negative words for Southerly who built my 135 as they seem to have gone out of their way to make it difficult to add anything else to this boat. To run the hoses end to end for the hydronic heating nearly killed me. I was dead lucky to find a path to run the cabling for the solar power, it would have been so much easier to have created these path ways at the construction stage.
One thing you might find interesting, I decided to add a wind vane but am fitting a solar arch that extends to the end of the sugar scoop. But after some thought I have decided to cut a hole through the sugar scoop and install a glassed in bearing tube for the wind vane assembly. This tube finishes flush with the step, and a removable steering tube shaft which is supported by the solar arch frame above. The wind vane assembly that does the driving I discovered is not very complicated and fits under the solar panels to allow the vane itself to be either forward of aft of the end of the solar panels. It is going to be an interesting experiment, but I am keen to have a system that is just not there when not needed, but can be set up in 5 minutes.
I love all your videos. As an ex Royal Navy a=Artificer and a sailor I value the fine traditions of the sea. So it is like nails down the black board when you say things like 'bedrooms' Yours Aye, Buster
Sorry about that. Part of my vernacular stems from trying to make sailing more accessible to new people who get scared off by the language. I noticed also, when a boat has teak and holly under the feet I tend to call it a sole but, when it’s laminate I call it a floor. I’m weird sometimes.
Fantastic yachts, bullet proof and solid, I wish there were more in the UK available
In my opinion, the UK produces Rustler boats, one of the best sailing boats in the world.
Hey Tim,
Another great job!
Do you guys ever do older vessels, such as a Gulfstar 36?? ⛵️
Maybe you could touch on where or who we can get hard to find parts for sail boats that are no longer in production. The island packet my wife and I considered one, beautiful but tight and slow Awesome video,hope this site grows leaps and bounds we need this.
Greatly informative video Tim!
I learned a whole lot more about Island Packets!
I was wondering why you didn’t mention the chainplate issue?
This boat is post 2000 after IP stopped using 304 stainless
Really enjoyed this video and last weeks Catalina 380 review. I’ve been a longtime subscriber of your show and enjoy it - so much so that I am now a subscriber to the practical sailer magazine - thank you. If you ever want a review or feedback from a Catalina 36 owner, give me a shout!
Yes! Would love that feedback. That’s a boat we need to talk about. Can you email me at comments@ practical dash sailor dot com?
Hey Tim,
Good to see you here from Lady K channel. Love your comments.
You asked us what we'd like you to review next? How about an aluminium hull boat? Specifically French made Allures 40.9 (regrettably now discontinued) or 45.9?
Thank you!
I'll check it out!
Well done for joining Practical Sailor, this is great content and you're such a great man for the channel! My only suggestion is to use a clip on microphone and you might want to get a diffuser for your lights. Watching from Vanuatu...can't believe I am the first to comment :)
Thanks for the tips!
I have seen several of your boat reviews and the one thing I have never heard you mention if sea berths. The Island Packet is designed to sail long distance but it seems to only have 2 twin berths. Where do you sleep at sea? I defy anyone to get a good night's sleep on a double berth when rolling down the trades, you need a narrow berth with a lee cloth or preferably a padded leeboard on any boat that lays claim to being 'bluewater'
A lot of IP owners who want a sea berth rig lee cloths for the saloon settees.
Hi Tim , can you do a vid on electronics ?
It's an absolute nightmare trying to figure out what to get and compatibility between different manufacturers.
Radar , navigation , fishfinder , AIS , autopilot , VHF etc , etc.
It would probably take several episodes to cover it all.
Thanks for the great vid. I would love to see a review of a HH44 Cat!!
I have been eyeing that IP370 in Anacortez. So close but so far.
Hi Tim, LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!! congrats on getting the PS gig!!! Background is kinda sterile! Also bigger pix when on our left!!! Liked your lady K background better. More inviting and relaxing!!! Keep doing a great job!!!!
The IP 370 became the IP 379. I absolutely love that boat and want one like no other. During the pandemic they discontinued making the 379. I think it may have something to do with your comment about insurance? I don't know that for sure but I thought it was very unfortunate that they made that decision. The IP 349 is similar in length but has less beam. I would love to see you do a video about Gozzard. Perhaps the 41RC.
Love the post. What's your take on Pacific Seacraft or Hallberg-Rassy?
IP is on my short list, when I can buy, but so is Amel. Love the Sharki and Maramu 46. Not sure I'd want an Amel Super Maramu though, don't like the layout, but and Amel 54, YES!
This is my dream boat. Nope, idc I won't win Thursday nights, idc I'll be making the odd extra tack & yes I will practice bringing my older IP into tight berths. Probably not a great first boat, however.
_Off to Lady K next. I assume they drop together to pick up a 2-in-1 & you guys have differentiation in mind better than I do. Cheers._
Curious if you guys ever incorporate sailing footage in your vids? I haven't seen any yet. I think it would very much enhance the stories and keep the interest peaked.
Subscribed. I love the channel.
Great coverage of the IP370. You should review a blue water boat that likes to sail, like a Valiant 40!
You should try to get out on an IP 420. They sail amazingly well. She likes 15 plus to get going. Assume a Valient would also.
@@jd850norton have not sailed an IP 420, but the Valiant does not need 15+ to get going
And by the way -- the old problem of a "slow boat" has been solved with the advent of the new solent rig with a 170 headsail, while still retaining the self tacking jib. Genius!
Excellent. Any chance to do an in depth on insurance for beginners, do marinas insist etc.
I don't know about Practical.. but I have a thing for Swans.. especially the S&S Swans.. I'd love to hear you talk about them.
The new ownership of IP allows the person who orders a new boat to pick the hull color and amount of exterior teak. As a result most newer IPs have zero exterior teak but the majority still have "Island Packet cream" hull color
I’d like to see a review of the cat ketch, Freedom 44 and/or 40.
Maybe you could do a segment on Gulfstars. They are not known as great boats but my friend has a 47' that sails very well and seems pretty well built for an older production boat.
Agreed there are great older cruising boats. Has your friend mentioned any isssues with getting insurance. Salty Dawg Sailing Ass. Just did an insurance zoom meeting. Insurers do not want to insure older (30 yrs or more) boats.
Review more pocket cruisers for us old folks that day sail and occasional overnight or short few day cruising. Examples may include old O'Day 28s, Catalina 27, 28mii, and 30s, or go small with a Pacific Seacraft Dana 24!
Hello
I’m refitting a Carl Alberg Sea Sprite 23 feet. Great sailing boat handled Lake Erie 3-5 footers with ease 😎
Glad I came across your"new job". Sub.
Thanks for this. I like hearing about REAL blue waters.
Great overview. I’d love to have any boat even the junkiest of junk lol
Liked and subscribed! Looking forward to more great videos like this one.
How about a review of the IP 38?
Hi Tim, No mention of chainplate issues with IPYs. Is it because this is an IPY 370 and they were made with the better stainless steel grade? Thank you for the review and congrats on the new pastime!
Yep. After 1999 model year they used 316 👏 good catch!!
Any opinion on Kraken Yachts? Or are they too niche/low volume??
Keep up the great work!
Congratulations on your new position with Practical Sailor. I love your videos. One of your previous videos on the IPs warns of Chain Plate issues with the IPs built before 2000. Can you do a video of Chain Plate Repairs ----Actually go to the company doing them and show the process. Give detailed pricing. I love the IPs but am very leery now of their known Chain Plate issues -----and the potential 20-30K repair price. Also their is a significant price break on the IP 27s, 31s, 32s vrs the IP35s and the IP37s. The 35s and 37s are more than twice the price some times 4 times the price. Also, can you use the Chain Plate issue when negotiating price on any IP packet built before 2000???????
Great review- thanks!
Hi. Good review! Have you looked at the Island Packet 29? I own a 1997, actually the last one built. I want to go offshore with it, but am nervous because of the size. Would you be willing to review one?
A strongly built smaller boat, which you have, would do well. Smaller boats just have less room for more people and all the conveniences of home. You know a lightbulb can survive a storm when something big breaks up. People have crossed oceans in dinghy-sized boats.
@@susanc.8009 Thats what I keep hearing, but I cant find many stories of an IP29 going to Bermuda and then the Caribbean. How would it do in a storm at that size? I also have a sloop and would have to modify.
@@htd10463 I wouldn’t be concerned at all about sailing your boat offshore. It was built for it. Size doesn’t matter.
Thanks Tim great review
Have owned a IP 380, an IP 27 and currently an IP 32…have also owned a Catalina 27, a Beneteau 350 & 360, a Jenneau 37 , an Oday 30 and a old Westerly 31..yes, my wife and I are addicts. All of these boats have their positives and negatives. We are obviously cruisers, not racers. That said, of them all, nothing ..NOTHING !..beats the quality of an IP..even with the chain plates and tankage issues. Best quote I ever heard was ..” step on one, sail it, spend a day on it and it’s yours…and they sail better than you might have been lead to believe..One heck of a sailboat..
Interesting. What do you think of Pacific Seacraft?
Sounds amazing, thank you so much for your passion 🙏☺️
Which one could you recommend from this company over 40?
Have an amazing day
Depends how much your want to spend $$$ Check out the 440 and 420 :)
@@practical-sailor I like to play only one time for something good.
I don’t have enough money to pay twice, when I buy something in the first place just for learning 😉
Thanks 🙏
I will check it out
Another great vid. Thank you
Great video- Thank you! ...I'm currently sailing a Cape Dory 30cutter and would never sail anything but a cutter rigged boat. Interested in going up to a 38-40 and strongly considered this IP370. Most I know say to go with another CD or a Pacific Seacraft for a good bluewater overbuilt sailboat. Please give me your thoughts on this, and why. ...Thank you again very much.
How about a comparaison with the Hallbert Rassy
What is the catamaran version of an Island Packet? Most production cats I've come across seem to be more floating apartment than 'battle axe'. Used to think probably a Neel trimaran but I've since learned of serious production issues so looking for another boat to dream about
I’d love to hear your take on Catalina 270.
Excellent review
OK, I'll try this channel. Another youtube channel reccomended it. 😉