I always loved the bit where he jumped on the horse statue and it came to life :) I remember watching my parents play this when I was little, my Mum was the only one who could beat Jafar at the end.
Jordan Mechner (creator of Prince series) wrote a detail plot of Prince 2 SnF for developers. The pdf is available in internet. As per the document, the flying heads were meant to be of both men and women and even including children! In the mac version the heads with short hair are supposedly male while in ms dos version, all heads are female.
I couldn't hear the sound of this game because there was no sound card in my desktop when I played this game 30 years ago. Finally, I heard the sound of this game today for the first time and I realized once again how well-made this game is.
15:56 I'm amazed this part here made it past playtesting. The whole game you are meant to delay and avoid skeletons and now suddenly this particular skeleton you have to kill in this super specific, no room for error, kind of way.
Just pay attention to your surroundings and use your brain. Most likely if the devs added something, in this case this crumbling bridge, there's a reason to it. Especially when regular tactics don't work anymore all of a sudden. Not that hard.
Thanks for this upload 🙏 Back in the days when Apple wasn’t so popular - even now, gaming-wise, it’s not the case. But I distinctly remember feeling blessed to experience Prince of Persia 2 (POP2) on my trusty Mac LCIII. The graphical superiority of POP2 and its predecessor, coupled with Marathon outshining DOOM for us Mac users, made our gaming world truly unique. Comparing POP2 to POP1, the visuals were a marvel on my Mac LCIII, creating a more beautiful gaming landscape. However, the gameplay unfolded like a captivating yet slightly chaotic dance - not always in sync. Despite its stunning graphics, POP2 felt rushed and had its share of quirks. Still, I find myself yearning for a POP3, a conclusion to the original story with the hero we know and love, blending the cohesiveness of POP1 with the beauty of POP2 in the same 2D style. That's a dream I still hold onto. In the gaming landscape where Apple wasn't the primary player, those moments with POP2, POP1, and Marathon on my Mac felt like having exclusive tickets to a captivating show. Good times indeed!
Interesting to see the inspiration for the Sands of Time trilogy. I can see the forerunners to the Dark Prince (originally a doppelganger early in Two Thrones' development), the vizier (who is the doppelganger in this game), Farah (the princess) and possibly Kaileena (through the witch at the end). Warrior Within even recycled this game's broken sword idea. Perhaps the Two Thrones would have closer matched this game, if the developers had not changed the Two Thrones as much in the development cycle.
I played PoP1 in the 80s when it was first released. Years later when I saw PoP2 I didn't believe it could be any better. And nobody was recommending it. It was so much better and for the first time I was pleasantly surprised!
The spider terrified me when I fell through several floors and died in front of it. Scariest thing I'd ever seen in a game, and I knew I'd have to face it if I ever made it all the way down. Also the screaming and thuds were perturbing lol
Yes, I played the MS-DOS version as a 10 year old when it first came out in 1993. Even at that age the flying heads freaked me out a little bit. They made frequent appearances in my dreams at night. Definitely not a game for very young children. My computer didn’t have a sound card yet in 1993 either, so all the music and sound effects came through the PC Speaker. I’ll never forget the first time I opened a gate inside the ruins. The high pitched pulsing sound effect scared the crap out of me and I thought I had triggered some kind of head summoning device. It wasn’t until I understood the sound to be an off screen gate opening and closing in another room that I calmed down. The digitized gate sound effect is so much less jarring than the PC Speaker version. The PC Speaker version almost sounds like an alarm going off. The high pitched pulsing is reminiscent of the shower music in Hitchcock’s Psycho. Totally unsettling until you figure out why your computer is making that noise.
I agree. It was much darker and had some very scary and sad moments. Even the intro cutscene where you see Jafar’s metamorphosis as the “Prince” looking angry as the real Prince breaks free and jumps out the window was pretty scary.
But in terms of gameplay and music, DOS > MAC, call me that because of nostalgia or whatever but I like it more than the mac version even if it has less graphics than mac
I would hesitate to say that it looks significantly better on the Mac even. Yes, the Mac version has higher resolution, but lacks the color depth of the DOS version. The DOS version utilized all 256 colors, but the Mac version had to set aside part of the palette for the Mac system interface. In total, the Mac version only utilized somewhere around 230-240 colors (a ballpark guess). Also, the Mac version didn’t utilize the full 640x480 screen resolution. It had a black frame around a centered picture, similar to what you see in Myst or Riven. Overall, the DOS implementation was far superior, especially if you use a Roland CM-32L for the music like I do.
I really wish someone would reverse-engineer Mac version of both PoP and PoP2 and re-release them to other platform like Windows and Linux. I know we have SDLPop but it's ported from DOS version in which graphics is hugely cheaper and the port isn't compatible with Mac version's game assets.
What's interesting is that the music in PoP2 sounds more authentic to the culture than in PoP. OtOH, the building architecture in the first level seems more like the Mughal Empire than Persia (and yes I know there was lots of...er...cultural exchange and tension between the two...culiminating in the hated invasion of Nader Shah and his sacking of Delhi). And the use of the title "Sultan" instead of "Shah" for the ruler of Persia is another example of cultural pastiche. We've come a long way since then, for the latest Prince of Persia features a literal throne of Jamshid and has characters with authentic Sassanid-era names.
It was fairly difficult. I got it in November 1993 when I was 10 but didn’t beat it until May 1995 shortly before I turned 12. In kid years, that’s a really long time.
Well... almost. I prefer the DOS version of those flying heads. They also have a loud shriek when they detect you. They also have a loud cry when they die that make you feel sad for killing them.
The performance is equally poor on both, as compared to PoP 1. You are sure to miss a tile at least once in the game while doing a running jump on PoP 2. The difference is between life and death.
Small black bars on the top and the bottom are result of PoP2's hardcoded resolution. That's why the best way to play is just vMac with enabled magnification. Black bars aren't visible in the video because of OBS settings, not the emulator's. You can try other emulators like BasiliskII or Sheepshaver, there is also an option to compile a custom version of vMac, but the problem is more on the game's side.
Sounds worse than radio quality, pauses with every single movement, and even in parts where there is no need for a keystroke, like in the cutscenes, it still pauses. This game was designed for MS-DOS, not for that Apple junk.
controls are horrible , and it is such a pity , because the game looks great , but honestly i tried 20 times to pass the 1st level , but always the same shit with the controls
This game was soooo weak. The OG will always be the best. I just saw a knock off of trying to capitalize on the first. Certainly not the first instance of this happening but the story was ridiculous.
Literally everything is the same as OG dos version...only change is graphical which looks even better....damn these criticisms be radiating low IQ energy.
![Prince of Persia 2: The Shadow and the Flame Longplay (PC DOS) [QHD] [Roland MT-32]](/img/n.gif)
17:46 😅
"Hey, can you hold it? Thanks" 👳
I always loved the bit where he jumped on the horse statue and it came to life :) I remember watching my parents play this when I was little, my Mum was the only one who could beat Jafar at the end.
It’s always great to see full playthroughs of Mac versions of games, and PoP2 in particular. Nice work!
Thanks!
Married and lived happily for 11 days is more than anyone can be happy these days 😊
Jordan Mechner (creator of Prince series) wrote a detail plot of Prince 2 SnF for developers. The pdf is available in internet. As per the document, the flying heads were meant to be of both men and women and even including children! In the mac version the heads with short hair are supposedly male while in ms dos version, all heads are female.
can you tell more about this book and where can I find it
Oh? But the MS DOS version also has heads with long hair, in fact you see short haired ones only later
@@JoeyQuintms dos has only female variants.
@@abhirajdeore1910 pop2bible pdf jordan mechner .... search in google
At the beginning, the way the guards would scream after being knocked off the roof would always crack me up 😂
I couldn't hear the sound of this game because there was no sound card in my desktop when I played this game 30 years ago.
Finally, I heard the sound of this game today for the first time and I realized once again how well-made this game is.
The game and the movie is legendary, I grown with this game.
Great game, great memories. How I wish they would make a remaster of this game for the current hardware...
15:56 I'm amazed this part here made it past playtesting. The whole game you are meant to delay and avoid skeletons and now suddenly this particular skeleton you have to kill in this super specific, no room for error, kind of way.
I never made it past that skeleton. The game ended for me just there.
Those old 90s games were hard, that was the fun part. Try playing Titus the fox...
And it took good time trying to figure out how to beat him.
yah... that bridge frustrated me to the point of "you know what ? fuck it .. I'm outta here" and went to live a happy life
Just pay attention to your surroundings and use your brain. Most likely if the devs added something, in this case this crumbling bridge, there's a reason to it. Especially when regular tactics don't work anymore all of a sudden. Not that hard.
32:34
I remembered when my friend did this on my computer and I lost my mind...
Sidenote: releasing Jinnee (the little guy at 47:20) is completely optional. However, in different versions of the game, Jinnee opens the main gate.
I always wondered what was its use, now that would make more sense!
Thanks for this upload 🙏
Back in the days when Apple wasn’t so popular - even now, gaming-wise, it’s not the case. But I distinctly remember feeling blessed to experience Prince of Persia 2 (POP2) on my trusty Mac LCIII. The graphical superiority of POP2 and its predecessor, coupled with Marathon outshining DOOM for us Mac users, made our gaming world truly unique.
Comparing POP2 to POP1, the visuals were a marvel on my Mac LCIII, creating a more beautiful gaming landscape. However, the gameplay unfolded like a captivating yet slightly chaotic dance - not always in sync. Despite its stunning graphics, POP2 felt rushed and had its share of quirks. Still, I find myself yearning for a POP3, a conclusion to the original story with the hero we know and love, blending the cohesiveness of POP1 with the beauty of POP2 in the same 2D style. That's a dream I still hold onto.
In the gaming landscape where Apple wasn't the primary player, those moments with POP2, POP1, and Marathon on my Mac felt like having exclusive tickets to a captivating show. Good times indeed!
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm thinking about doing the Marathon playthrough soon.
@@RetroGamingKat that would be so sick bro looking forward to it 🔥
Interesting to see the inspiration for the Sands of Time trilogy. I can see the forerunners to the Dark Prince (originally a doppelganger early in Two Thrones' development), the vizier (who is the doppelganger in this game), Farah (the princess) and possibly Kaileena (through the witch at the end). Warrior Within even recycled this game's broken sword idea. Perhaps the Two Thrones would have closer matched this game, if the developers had not changed the Two Thrones as much in the development cycle.
My child game, this game have Memory i love this game.
Thanks for sharing man
Tomb Raider was definitely inspired by this game. It reminds me so much of Lara's janky movements as well as the platform jumping.
I played PoP1 in the 80s when it was first released.
Years later when I saw PoP2 I didn't believe it could be any better. And nobody was recommending it.
It was so much better and for the first time I was pleasantly surprised!
Man Mac ports of these two games was my initiation into gaming. Haven't stopped yet lol.
best port of the game so far
17:12 Not a big fan of prince 2 but both graphic detail and your playthrough is GOOD. Nicely done.
You sure swashed those buckles.
5:48 Headless Horseman laugh
The graphic is amazing
thanks to the internet we can see hidden gems like these. I thought this never existed.
lol, PoP2 is darker than first game. this is scary for children haha
The spider terrified me when I fell through several floors and died in front of it. Scariest thing I'd ever seen in a game, and I knew I'd have to face it if I ever made it all the way down.
Also the screaming and thuds were perturbing lol
スペランカーよりましです あっちに行くと危険だよと分かりますね
Yes, I played the MS-DOS version as a 10 year old when it first came out in 1993. Even at that age the flying heads freaked me out a little bit. They made frequent appearances in my dreams at night. Definitely not a game for very young children.
My computer didn’t have a sound card yet in 1993 either, so all the music and sound effects came through the PC Speaker. I’ll never forget the first time I opened a gate inside the ruins. The high pitched pulsing sound effect scared the crap out of me and I thought I had triggered some kind of head summoning device. It wasn’t until I understood the sound to be an off screen gate opening and closing in another room that I calmed down. The digitized gate sound effect is so much less jarring than the PC Speaker version. The PC Speaker version almost sounds like an alarm going off. The high pitched pulsing is reminiscent of the shower music in Hitchcock’s Psycho. Totally unsettling until you figure out why your computer is making that noise.
I agree. It was much darker and had some very scary and sad moments.
Even the intro cutscene where you see Jafar’s metamorphosis as the “Prince” looking angry as the real Prince breaks free and jumps out the window was pretty scary.
No sorry it's just a game
pro tip: in the beginning you can just run straight ignoring the guys behind you
This was one hard game to complete. A lot of hours spent trying to figure out things
Such a good looking game!! :D I've only played the beginning to this (can't remember the platform) and I've played a good chunk of the 1st game! :)
MY FAV GAME ONES UPON A TIME
This looks like it would've been a really good game at the time.
Mann waren dass Zeiten 1992
I doesn't know the mac version has better graphics than the DOS version
Yeah I keep noticing nearly every single old computer game looks better on mac
Lol mac version is pretty much remastered POP2
But in terms of gameplay and music, DOS > MAC, call me that because of nostalgia or whatever but I like it more than the mac version even if it has less graphics than mac
I would hesitate to say that it looks significantly better on the Mac even. Yes, the Mac version has higher resolution, but lacks the color depth of the DOS version. The DOS version utilized all 256 colors, but the Mac version had to set aside part of the palette for the Mac system interface. In total, the Mac version only utilized somewhere around 230-240 colors (a ballpark guess). Also, the Mac version didn’t utilize the full 640x480 screen resolution. It had a black frame around a centered picture, similar to what you see in Myst or Riven. Overall, the DOS implementation was far superior, especially if you use a Roland CM-32L for the music like I do.
@@MordacksOrgan Also, the caves look quite weird.
Ok, I am certain I did beat this game as a kid. There is no way I would have figured out the ending puzzles
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I am glad that i didnt have soundcard at that times, music is beyond horrible.
I always, always burned on the blue fire. It was impossible to know what to do there!
54:30 My dad and I never beat the level 3-4 haha
Забавно, но в "1000 и 1 ночи" визирь Джафар очень положительный персонаж :)
He turned Super Sayen Blue!!! 🤯
The Mac version is like a superior Prince of Persia compared to other platforms. 😄
I really wish someone would reverse-engineer Mac version of both PoP and PoP2 and re-release them to other platform like Windows and Linux. I know we have SDLPop but it's ported from DOS version in which graphics is hugely cheaper and the port isn't compatible with Mac version's game assets.
Hi there, did you play the game on original hardware or used an emulator?
I used Macintosh emulator called Mini vMac II.
Misheard:
Lord walt Track Wall Wacky!!!
56:00
What's interesting is that the music in PoP2 sounds more authentic to the culture than in PoP. OtOH, the building architecture in the first level seems more like the Mughal Empire than Persia (and yes I know there was lots of...er...cultural exchange and tension between the two...culiminating in the hated invasion of Nader Shah and his sacking of Delhi). And the use of the title "Sultan" instead of "Shah" for the ruler of Persia is another example of cultural pastiche. We've come a long way since then, for the latest Prince of Persia features a literal throne of Jamshid and has characters with authentic Sassanid-era names.
omg dude i use to play tis when i was like 7 years old when in like 2010
لعبت اللعبة من أكثر من 27 سنة . فما أسرع الايام 😢😢
😢
This needs a remaster
Nice walkthrough, thanks! But why didn't you take a big bottle on level 5?
Thanks! When I was practicing this level, a texture for that bottle usually didn’t load correctly. So I just skipped it like every other time.
Great footage and preservation. I shall try the way you played it, I can never get mac emulation to work for whatever reason
Thanks! I’ve found Mini vMac II the most stable for PoP2.
Wow. What Mac model would this have been played on, typically?
Macintosh Classic II, Macintosh LC II, Performa 200 etc. Any Macintosh that had 68030 processor.
I played this with my sister when I was a child
How did your sis react during the levels of flying heads?
@@supratikghoshal5561 It's was fun playing on my family computer
No wonder I never completed the game, too hard for 12 year old. lol
It was fairly difficult. I got it in November 1993 when I was 10 but didn’t beat it until May 1995 shortly before I turned 12. In kid years, that’s a really long time.
Prince of Persia games on Mac were much good looking compared to the original DOS versions that looks like Minecraft games.
Well... almost. I prefer the DOS version of those flying heads. They also have a loud shriek when they detect you. They also have a loud cry when they die that make you feel sad for killing them.
The performance is equally poor on both, as compared to PoP 1. You are sure to miss a tile at least once in the game while doing a running jump on PoP 2. The difference is between life and death.
Why they not choose to make pixel art PoP again. Making it with the same art style and brutal like Blasphemous
Try the rogue prince of persia
i really wish we can buy that game on GOG :(
good grafic
I love the graphics.
Does anyone know how I can download these graphics and play this game on a Windows machine?
Any input would be helpful.
Emulation. Download a Macintosh emulator and the game's ROM. Everything is on Google
The mac version has better graphics than dos version.
Kat's ENIAC, how to get full screen like your in Mini vMac II? Thanks.
Press and hold down the ‘CTRL’ key and, without releasing it, press 'H', then 'F' key.
@@RetroGamingKat Thanks, but my Windows resolution is 1920x1080
and doing CTRL+H+F works, but remains black borders also up and down.
Small black bars on the top and the bottom are result of PoP2's hardcoded resolution. That's why the best way to play is just vMac with enabled magnification. Black bars aren't visible in the video because of OBS settings, not the emulator's. You can try other emulators like BasiliskII or Sheepshaver, there is also an option to compile a custom version of vMac, but the problem is more on the game's side.
11:35 HEW~ 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Is this Prince of Persia 2 or Alladin game, really confused.
Which key to attack with sword?
Essa versão 2 do jogo foi uma decepção muito grande.....😢 Mais ainda tem quem gosta......nada contra 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Anyway to play this version on windows PC
Can you do download tutorial please
54:27 Game Over.
It's meant to do that in order to get blue flame.
OR IS IT?!!!
@@azuredragonofnether5433 Not really Game Over
Como se puede sacar la espada
I see Prince Have a different hat
ゲームとは？と思い知らせて もらったゲームです 支持が高いことが 驚いています 難度高く優良ゲームですねΣ(￣ロ￣lll)
This is the 2nd chance
I need link
Why do u got 100k views?
Bro anyway to play it on Android, through emulation I have played the remake but that's trash.
Не прошёл дальше 4:50
I wish the character/characters said ‘Allah hu Akbar’ before they killed or got killed.
What the fk is wrong with you
That was before islam destroyed this culture
Графика лучше👍
Sounds worse than radio quality, pauses with every single movement, and even in parts where there is no need for a keystroke, like in the cutscenes, it still pauses.
This game was designed for MS-DOS, not for that Apple junk.
controls are horrible , and it is such a pity , because the game looks great , but honestly i tried 20 times to pass the 1st level , but always the same shit with the controls
Controls are fine. If you can’t pass the first level you have no skill. Keep trying.
This game was soooo weak. The OG will always be the best. I just saw a knock off of trying to capitalize on the first. Certainly not the first instance of this happening but the story was ridiculous.
The mechanics are nearly identical. You sound like you’re still bitter that your parents wouldn’t get you the game, lol.
Literally everything is the same as OG dos version...only change is graphical which looks even better....damn these criticisms be radiating low IQ energy.
Terrible 😮
The soundtrack is horrible 🤦🏻🤢
SNES POP is so much better than this.