The sword actually carries over between levels even if you don't physically collect it - it's a quirk in how the game handles state! Though yeah, if you're using cheats with 'prince improved', Shift+L would also let you skip to level 2 with a sword. But in speedruns we use the jump skip since it's possible without cheats.
Same. At least on PC. Our mom got a Windows 95 PC and this was the only ("real") game on it. I was pretty bad at it tbh, I don't recall ever getting very far, but it was a lot of fun regardless.
@@malcador the only way I finished this game was by using cheats. In MS DOS, if you appended "MEGAHIT" at the end of the launch, it'd enable cheats allowing for instant healing, unlimited time, additional life bars, instant killing an enemy, etc (it was "yippeeyahoo" for PoP S&F) - don't ask me why I remember this literally almost 30 years later when I can't recall what I had for breakfast this morning 🤣
@@Clavinovaman as an adult I have the same problem I had as a kid, I play 10 games at the same time in a rotation, and lose interest in most long before I finish, and those just get replaced with the next game which I will inevitably get sick of before I finish, ad etcetera ad infinitum.
@@teenspirit1 no doubt. I have one of those little Sega Genesis mini systems I hooked up to the computer and loaded up with roms from a few systems. My kids and I play some of the classics on it from time to time and those games are just so much more timing precise and stuff. Everything was analog back then too which made a difference with response time playing platformer games like Mario and such.
Very, very good play! Congratulation! I have download this game one week ago, after 30 years. I have finished it, but I always killed every guardian and take every superdrink I get. Very interesting to see this solution :D
I've played this game when I was 8 years old and this was only back in 2009 but I instantly fell in love with this game it's still one of my favorite games of all time
Back in the day I read in a gamer magazine that the main character is not just drawn. They took a video of the athletic son of a developer and based the animations on that.
So glad to see such an awesome speedrun of a DOS game as opposed to all the NES ones... I think I beat it in around 35 minutes as a kid, which was a massive achievement... yeah... 14 minutes, that's madness :D
Dude, if you beat the game in around 35 minutes... if you did that again, but recorded yourself running, you would be in 27th place on the Pop1 Speedrun.com leaderboard. Basicly, you are one of the best players. Might be a good time to get into speedrunning. Getting that Sub 20 feels so good!
@@TimothyMakin Ah..... then I must be misremembering that number, I really doubt I was speedrunner-levels of good, eventhough I played it a lot, lol. I definitely don't have the patience to be a speedrunner, which is why I respect it so much. Btw have you considered also doing PoP2? Now that one would be pure hell :D I've never even beaten it without cheats....
Well, that's 27th place out of 27 :P. Honestly, If you play this game you already are a speedrunner. If you just submitted any time you would be in 28th place. *I didn't submit untill I at least beat someone* Ya, I got to do PoP2 at some point... I honestly don't like it as much. I wish they haden't changed the gameplay... and I really really hate those floating head things.
@@TimothyMakin Yeah those were borderline unfair. I'm sure there's some strategy to them, but as far as I remember the sword just goes right through them, lol.
Such an interesting old classic! It was one of those games where everything was a bit of an event, the sound effects meant a lot too. Congratulations on the WR!!
Awesome, it feels good to be loved. Honestly, anyone can play this good if they have enough time. The game really has a low skill ceiling. There are no sub pixels and it only runs at 12 to 10 fps.
24 minutes is pretty impressive.... but you gotta try for that sub 20 man. You can do it. You know that with 24 minute run you would be 25th on the Speedrun.com leaderboard!?! That's pretty impressive.
That was kind of awesome. I had recently changed to ingame time, so I kept increasing my ingame PB. I also made a few mistakes/did things unoptimally, but I guess none of that mattered to the final score.
Played a lot in my childhood... could never finish. It was many years later I played again, and, after learning many tips and tricks I could finally complete this game, only once. But I was more than delighted. Reaching the ending on my own at last. Well, I needed much more time than this guy. 🙂
I don't know what version of Prince of Persia I played when I was a kid, but there was a level between level 1 and 2 that had potions with a letter above it. And I never beat the game because when I had to fight against my own reflection, when I killed it, I died as well, no matter if my health was like double more. Weird.
Yep, thats the game. the level between 1 and 2 is the copyright protection level and most speedrunners play a version that has that level removed. There is a way to get past your reflection without dying. I will gladly tell you if you don't mind spoilers.
@@TimothyMakin I looked up the solution and all I had to do is to put my sword away so my shadow would put it away as well. And I didn't know that at all XD
Since the game doesn't have any dialogue, it would've been cool if Jordan Mechner included a level that played with the mirror prince concept. Like imagine a level where you and your shadow are separated by a gate, and he mimics your actions - that would've been a perfect way to hint at the sword mechanic for the later fight!
I always thought I got the record with under 15+ (if I remember correctly) . But I was killing almost everyone and having the fastest way between screens (jump on the previous exactly to land so I do it the fasted way possible). I see here you loose time every now and then on on the extra moves but not fighting wins more time - so CONGRATS! Super impressive - my 16years old self would never decide not to kill the bad guys ;)
Okay, you mean with 15+ left on the timer? There is a 100% run where you kill every guard and drink every potion. I would love to learn of a faster way of doing any of the moves and so would the rest of the POP speedrunners. If you know something we don't know please share. www.speedrun.com/pop1?h=Any-standard&x=rklx8pnk-ylqj57nr.rqvvyeyq
Do you know the "math" behind being knocked through the closed gate at 10:13 on level 9? Is it the hit and the right movement timing that does it? I can pass through that same gate in a different way, exploiting that a horizontal displacement of his center of mass occurs when his sword is put away, but this is faster. The same trick must be possible to use elsewhere...
I don't know the Math but some members of the pop community do. This is actually a rather old run. We have discovered many new and exciting exploits. One of which actually allows you to skip most of level 8. You should check out the latest run.
The SNES version is very charming. I love the dust that the kid kicks up when he slides.... nice attention to detail. I wish it played more like the DOS version, but it had to work with a controller. There are some nice speedruns of the dos version.
Question: Why does the timer stop at 14:04 when there still seems to be control and gameplay? The video in the lower-right seems to continue the timer where the current game has stopped. Where is the Time!-spot supposed to be?
We have an autospliter. The in game time stops when Jaffar dies. The real time continues till the last moment. Our speedruns are based on the in game time not the real time because the in game time ignores things like loading between screens.
I had recently switched from a real time autospliter(the one in the replay) to an in game time autospliter. That's why I am so confused at the end. I didn't realise I was doing as good because I was still used to the old numbers from my previous autospliter.
Always felt the fat guard was tougher than Jaffar, also when the fat guard dies, his body's position is different compared to the other guards and Jaffar
@@TimothyMakin If I remember correctly, when he dies, he lies on his back and his head faces the viewer instead of the body lying sideways like the other guards
5:14 the fat máster... Hardest guard on the game, in my childhood i spent countless hours until i finally finish the game, with only 15 seconds on the clock!!!
The good thing about THAT guard(on level 8 actually) is that he is very consistent. A new strat is to actually have him push you through a wall that leads to the very end of the level.
Yes, usually you would go get the sword first because otherwise you can't pass the guard, unless you can get past the guard without killing him. There are two ways of doing this, first you can jump over him like I do here, but you can also lure him into the next room and drop down behind him.
I actually have a tutorial on how to do it on my channel. Although you can actually easily go around him instead of getting the sword. If you lure him into the next room past where you fall, you can climb up and around him and not have to go get the sword.
In level 8, at 6:36, you can save another 30 secs, by aiming to jump across from the edge, catch the other corner, and then leave shift to catch the below ledge. This is far more smoother.
man my uncle showed me this game on his pc when i was a lil kid. Used to play this game a lot🙌💯good times&the animations were so good back in the days.
Dooood this was a nice run! As for me, the farthest I could get was level 8. In the end I used that "prince megahit" exe cheat that allowed me to skip levels. lol at Jafar falling to his death instead of beaten in an epic sword battle
Level 8 is kind of the hump you have to get over to beat the game... The cool thing about "Prince Megahit" / "prince improved" is that you could use them to replay level 8.
There is a Pacifist version of this run... Unfortunatly, the last door won't open unless Jaffar dies so runners often say "Jaffar I mean you no harm" before making him fall down the hole.
There must be a bunch of swords just lying on the steps to the later levels. It was just programed that way. Probably so that the Level skip (shift-L) will work.
Well, I have made a few videos of how to do specific strats. So that is kind of a guide for Speedrunning already. I haven't made all the videos for all the strats yet. I am a teacher and I don't have a lot of time to make videos.
Thanks, that's the cool thing about speedrunning. Most people only see that one run where you didn't fail a bunch :P So the really impressive part isn't the skill per se but the tenasity.
Hi, congratulations on the fantastic execution! Question: How can I also have the SHIFT, CTRL, RESTART LEVEL, LEFT, RIGHT, JUMP, etc. keys at the bottom of the game screen? Thank you
But you did eventually beat it. I am guessing. It isn't a very hard game, but it is very unintutative. Beating Pop is like beating two games at once. You have to master these strange mechanics and then use them to beat the game. But you do feel a great sense of accomplishment when you finally beat it.
@@TimothyMakinActually, yes I beat it... and I even worked at Ubisoft on another Prince of Persia title thereafter, which included a version of this game bundled in as an extra. One of our devs had to hex-hack out the timer from the game to make it more palatable to a more modern audience ;) Still, great run!
Salve, complimenti per l'esecuzione fantastica! Domanda come faccio ad avere anche io i tasti SHIFT,CTRL,RESTART LEVEL,LEFT,RIGHT,JUMP,ecc.in basso nella schermata di gioco? Grazie Amedeo
I think I remeber acidentally jumping over a guard once as a kid, but I really didn't think it was Viable until I saw CapnClever's GDQ run: ua-cam.com/video/USv8OQbg73M/v-deo.html
Ctrl+G will save the game but I beleve that it only works from level 3 on. Ctrl + L will Load your save but you will always start off at the beginning of the level. I made a video about using Quick Save and Quick Load using a different version of DOS Box ... I often use that version for practicing, but it isn't allowed for Speedruns and I am not sure it would be good for them anyway.
So we know the Princess is the only daughter of the Sultan. We also know that she is not married. That makes the prince himself possibly a foreign suitor. He could be from anywhere. Most likely a viking prince, since they traveled far and wide and their presence in Persian territory was nearly constant. Viking soldiers were some of the most elite soldiers in Persian armies. That would also explain the prince's blond hair. Alternatively, could be Kievan Rus prince, or some pre-viking scandinavian prince.
A very large percentage of that area was white/caucasian, Macedonia being a perfect example. Same with Syria. The reason the demographics became darker was due to Arab Muslim infiltration from further east. They even changed the name from Persia to Iran when white Christians became the minority after Muslim invasion, the same as Constantinople in Turkey.
I played a version on Mac. The mouse played a important role in the game. The prince was dressed up as a Arab medieval warrior and as far as I remember he has to fight Jaffar at the last round....
The mouse 🐁 usually has an important role in level 8, but the in the speedrun we usually skip the mouse... However! Recently we discovered a way to have the first level 8 guard knock us through a wall landing us at the end of level 8 and the mouse saves us again!
I remember having somehow a different version. The level's color are either grey/blue or yellow/brighter, but green as in level 3 or brown/olive as in level 9. The sound was also a different one. The saw blades had higher and sharper sound just like the spikes. Being hurt by an enemy was also more a sound than a voice.
I love the PC speaker sound. That's how I originally played it. I think that PC sound messes with percise input needed for Speedrunning. Although I couldn't explain why.
@@andrejnovota5023 NyLan uploaded it two years ago, but unfortunately not the whole game. Still, these are the sounds I remember, although in my memory, they're still a bit higher, like the saw blade.
I think you could beat it... You have to remember that with Prince of Persia, the progression happens in the player not in the game. You get better at the game. The game does not get easier to beat.
Dude, this was years ago so my memory might be wrong. But at 5:20, i think you just stand their for a while and something happens, like the shadows moves or something and you get a shortcut. Can't remeber, but like falling down was bad. Are you not purposefully not taking the shortcut?
I got into this in 2020 and managed to finish the game in about 15 min and 30 sec [ish]. There was a few tricks I couldn't manage. I couldn't do the 10th stage shortcut when you jump into that pit and reapear few screens to the right / up. Also I had tons of problems getting through that level 5 shortcut. I couldn't get it to work. I also couldn't jump passed any guard but the first two so I went around them which takes a sec more per guard aprox. Also - I never was able to figure out how to go straight through the level 7 chompers. There's a trick btw to make them jam, but I couldn't do it. And also there's an amazing shortcut on level 9 that will save you extra time but I couldn't pull it off. Like the last guard can send you through that last door. The rest I was able to figure out and it was pretty awesome :D Also - I think I've seen some new insane tricks not too long ago, but I can't remember. I think it had to do with shortening the level 8..... ow man I forgot :((
Ya, we got a friend of ours on the Prince of Persia speedrunning discord to figure out that level 8 trick. You should really rechord and submit a run if you are able to do sub 20! You should join the prince of Persia speedrunning discord.
@@TimothyMakin Yeah I wanted to do it but I was too lazy to be honest. I'd have to install a screen capture app etc. Under 20 min is easy. It's those minutes below that are really hard to chop away. Also I didn't really consider my gameplay that interesting to upload as it didn't really stand out in any way. I had a pretty good start to level 7 figured out but nothing special.
@@TimothyMakin Also : I had real problems jumping pass the guards. Like I only managed to jump pass the first two and even that took me like 10 to 15 takes... and it's really time consuming to get everything right so eventually I just kind of gave up :D I have to say though' it was a lot of fun. I installed the game in march 2020 during the quaranteene and then I just played it for like 2 months and got my time down to about 30 minutes. I initially played like "no lives lost" kind of thing but then I saw a speedrun and I was like WTF.... :o O.o it blew my mind and of course I had to try and learn and it took about a month to figure most of the things out, however I had a lot of problems with some of the shortcuts and specially Level 5 beginning gave me so many problems.
I'm surprised that somehow in my childhood I've achieved beating the game and writing my nickname in the scoreboard taking in account that I'm absolutely stupid at gaming.
How do you run past the enemies without fighting them? I played this game and I thought it was forced for you to fight enemies? Is it a glitch? Just remember this game being really difficult
The game is difficult, although probably not more difficult then most Retro games from it's time. Three things make this game rather fun to speedrun: one once you know the layout of the levels it becomes trivial to navigate the levels, Two the game is low frames per second(12 out of combat and 10 in combat), Three there is few moments of RNG(Although the moments remaining are emancely frustrating). Jumping guards is usualy frame perfect.... although the lower frame rate helps. Also you don't have to worry about subpixels. I do believe that there are some versions of the game where you Have to fight the enemies... In the DOS version you can jump past them(Considered a glitch by the comunity) or you can advance past them put away your sword and run away(not considered a glitch.)
Jumping guards is considered a glitch... although I only view it as very very hard. but switching sides and running aways isn't considered a glitch.... just perhaps cowardly :)
Some version of the game have more than 14 levels, Particularly the SNES version with 20. The Dos version only has 14 and the last two aren't even considered full levels.
Jordan Mechner. He actually published his Journals during the making of pop1 and pop2. I was also lucky enought to get mentioned in the back of that book.
“Okay so ah… that’s a new world record”😅. It didn’t sound like humblebrag, it sounded like you were coming back from another dimension hehe! Congrats!!
Ya, I was really confused... I probaby should have known better, but I had recently switched over to In Game Time on my timer, and I did make a few small errors and I was convinced they were much worse then they actually were. It was like I crossed the finishline balancing on one tire.
Ah, the "Lurker" fortunatly because he is soooo aggressive he is actually MORE consistent and allows for a really cool NEW strat on level 8: ua-cam.com/video/Kw4li-hOkE4/v-deo.html
The Prince of Persia game is really difficult. We want to go out the door and find a sword to fight the enemy in order to save the princess trapped in the palace and also forced to marry by the head of the king.
As with any thing it is only hard because you don't know stuff. Specifically, you don't know the route the prince has to take and you don't know the controls. The route can be studied, but the controls need to be practiced. Honesty, I feel that any one can beat the game in two weeks two hours a day. And anyone who has beaten the game can immediately beat it again.
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Something feels odd. He didn't pick up the sword on level 1 yet he has it later.
The sword actually carries over between levels even if you don't physically collect it - it's a quirk in how the game handles state! Though yeah, if you're using cheats with 'prince improved', Shift+L would also let you skip to level 2 with a sword. But in speedruns we use the jump skip since it's possible without cheats.
Prince of Peace: "Violence is not the solution".
I'm a lover not a fighter
The very first game I ever remember playing. A very massive kudos to you, Gamer!
It was one of the first time I remeber playing too. The first game I remember playing that I was any good at anyway.
My very first game too
Same. At least on PC. Our mom got a Windows 95 PC and this was the only ("real") game on it. I was pretty bad at it tbh, I don't recall ever getting very far, but it was a lot of fun regardless.
@@malcador the only way I finished this game was by using cheats. In MS DOS, if you appended "MEGAHIT" at the end of the launch, it'd enable cheats allowing for instant healing, unlimited time, additional life bars, instant killing an enemy, etc (it was "yippeeyahoo" for PoP S&F) - don't ask me why I remember this literally almost 30 years later when I can't recall what I had for breakfast this morning 🤣
That's always a good way to practice the hard parts.
As someone that never beat this game, despite playing it on multiple different systems, this was fun to watch.
I think you could beat it. Maybe if you focus on just one version?
You never beat it? It was one of the few games I beat when I was younger.
games were hard back then.
@@Clavinovaman as an adult I have the same problem I had as a kid, I play 10 games at the same time in a rotation, and lose interest in most long before I finish, and those just get replaced with the next game which I will inevitably get sick of before I finish, ad etcetera ad infinitum.
@@teenspirit1 no doubt. I have one of those little Sega Genesis mini systems I hooked up to the computer and loaded up with roms from a few systems. My kids and I play some of the classics on it from time to time and those games are just so much more timing precise and stuff. Everything was analog back then too which made a difference with response time playing platformer games like Mario and such.
60 minutes to save the princess!
Speedrunner: I have enough time to save her and her 3 sisters...
And he didn't kill all the other bachlors in persia!
@@TimothyMakin 😂
And the mouse!
well, he uses glitches in this run, so its like flexing not to real gameplay. (f.e. 5:49 )
Ya I totally use a lot of glitches in this run
I love how the guards look depressed when the prince puts his sword back and just runs away from them
I forget how funny that is. It does remand me of the Steve Miller song "take the money and run"
There goes my overtime 😢
They don't look depressed, they just look NOT READY. When they see prince, they get into their ready appearance.
God I remember playing this in my childhood with my father! This is amazing 💪💪 Thank you for the video!
Me and my brother played this a lot. I think our first copy was actually pop4D a hack of the game.
@@TimothyMakin Wow! Awesome! Thank you again and keep being amazing ♥️
Very, very good play! Congratulation! I have download this game one week ago, after 30 years. I have finished it, but I always killed every guardian and take every superdrink I get. Very interesting to see this solution :D
That's also a fun way to play. There is a 100% category where people do just that.
I've played this game when I was 8 years old and this was only back in 2009 but I instantly fell in love with this game it's still one of my favorite games of all time
Ya, that is why I originally started streaming myself playing it.
Wow... Impossible to forget these sound effects. And the animation is so smooth!
I think that is what originally attracted me to this game.
Back in the day I read in a gamer magazine that the main character is not just drawn. They took a video of the athletic son of a developer and based the animations on that.
Actually, the Developers little brother. ua-cam.com/video/ZW_eExHpTZI/v-deo.html Althought the fighting is taking directly from an Errol Flynn movie.
@@TimothyMakin very cool. Thanks for the link! 🙂
The daily walk to school from your parents, when they were late.
I remember walking home from school. :)
I loved this game back in the day. What did i just watch...it boggles my mind. Well done man.
Thank you there are much better runs of this game oneline.
So glad to see such an awesome speedrun of a DOS game as opposed to all the NES ones...
I think I beat it in around 35 minutes as a kid, which was a massive achievement... yeah... 14 minutes, that's madness :D
Dude, if you beat the game in around 35 minutes... if you did that again, but recorded yourself running, you would be in 27th place on the Pop1 Speedrun.com leaderboard. Basicly, you are one of the best players. Might be a good time to get into speedrunning. Getting that Sub 20 feels so good!
@@TimothyMakin Ah..... then I must be misremembering that number, I really doubt I was speedrunner-levels of good, eventhough I played it a lot, lol. I definitely don't have the patience to be a speedrunner, which is why I respect it so much. Btw have you considered also doing PoP2? Now that one would be pure hell :D I've never even beaten it without cheats....
Well, that's 27th place out of 27 :P. Honestly, If you play this game you already are a speedrunner. If you just submitted any time you would be in 28th place. *I didn't submit untill I at least beat someone* Ya, I got to do PoP2 at some point... I honestly don't like it as much. I wish they haden't changed the gameplay... and I really really hate those floating head things.
@@TimothyMakin Yeah those were borderline unfair. I'm sure there's some strategy to them, but as far as I remember the sword just goes right through them, lol.
Every move that you showed is perfect!!! Since I played it in 1990, I've finished it recently.
I wish. You should check out the current WR, It's even better.
Such an interesting old classic! It was one of those games where everything was a bit of an event, the sound effects meant a lot too.
Congratulations on the WR!!
Thanks. This is actually only the former World Record. The Current WR is held by an exilent runner "uvq3tsa"
I’m in love with you ❤️ seriously you played so well !
Awesome, it feels good to be loved. Honestly, anyone can play this good if they have enough time. The game really has a low skill ceiling. There are no sub pixels and it only runs at 12 to 10 fps.
About 24 minutes was my best speed run. Your speed run my friend, was inspiring!
24 minutes is pretty impressive.... but you gotta try for that sub 20 man. You can do it. You know that with 24 minute run you would be 25th on the Speedrun.com leaderboard!?! That's pretty impressive.
I love welding kitchens
Earn more sessions by sleeving.
I've done it too with this time, but discovering all secret traps and all potions
that moment at 15:11 when he realizes that not only did he get on his personal best board after all, but got the world record
That was kind of awesome. I had recently changed to ingame time, so I kept increasing my ingame PB. I also made a few mistakes/did things unoptimally, but I guess none of that mattered to the final score.
Haha, that was priceless, probably my best memory on Twitch :D
Played a lot in my childhood... could never finish. It was many years later I played again, and, after learning many tips and tricks I could finally complete this game, only once. But I was more than delighted. Reaching the ending on my own at last. Well, I needed much more time than this guy. 🙂
If you can beat the game once you can beat it again... Maybe you should try for a shorter time?
@@TimothyMakin Oh, yeah... a few days ago I tried again, and got stuck on level 3. Missed one jump or another all the time. But I might try again.
That jump over the gap is a huge challenge! It's timed.... which really sucks.
I don't know what version of Prince of Persia I played when I was a kid, but there was a level between level 1 and 2 that had potions with a letter above it. And I never beat the game because when I had to fight against my own reflection, when I killed it, I died as well, no matter if my health was like double more. Weird.
Yep, thats the game. the level between 1 and 2 is the copyright protection level and most speedrunners play a version that has that level removed. There is a way to get past your reflection without dying. I will gladly tell you if you don't mind spoilers.
@@TimothyMakin I looked up the solution and all I had to do is to put my sword away so my shadow would put it away as well. And I didn't know that at all XD
Since the game doesn't have any dialogue, it would've been cool if Jordan Mechner included a level that played with the mirror prince concept. Like imagine a level where you and your shadow are separated by a gate, and he mimics your actions - that would've been a perfect way to hint at the sword mechanic for the later fight!
I always thought I got the record with under 15+ (if I remember correctly) .
But I was killing almost everyone and having the fastest way between screens (jump on the previous exactly to land so I do it the fasted way possible).
I see here you loose time every now and then on on the extra moves but not fighting wins more time - so CONGRATS!
Super impressive - my 16years old self would never decide not to kill the bad guys ;)
Okay, you mean with 15+ left on the timer?
There is a 100% run where you kill every guard and drink every potion.
I would love to learn of a faster way of doing any of the moves and so would the rest of the POP speedrunners. If you know something we don't know please share.
www.speedrun.com/pop1?h=Any-standard&x=rklx8pnk-ylqj57nr.rqvvyeyq
10:38 Can you make a tutorial on how to do this trick?
ua-cam.com/video/KPaoLhPQric/v-deo.html Here you go.
Do you know the "math" behind being knocked through the closed gate at 10:13 on level 9? Is it the hit and the right movement timing that does it?
I can pass through that same gate in a different way, exploiting that a horizontal displacement of his center of mass occurs when his sword is put away, but this is faster.
The same trick must be possible to use elsewhere...
I don't know the Math but some members of the pop community do. This is actually a rather old run. We have discovered many new and exciting exploits. One of which actually allows you to skip most of level 8. You should check out the latest run.
Imagine how all the guards now serve him as their prince.
Well, I tried not to kill them all.
Usain of Persia ... 45min 20 sec left to play tetris with the princess...
Me and the Princess are going to order some Pizza and open a bottle of wine.
SNES version is my favorite version! Great job! So fun watching after all these years!
The SNES version is very charming. I love the dust that the kid kicks up when he slides.... nice attention to detail. I wish it played more like the DOS version, but it had to work with a controller. There are some nice speedruns of the dos version.
ua-cam.com/video/haJGkoTn8wo/v-deo.html
I remember that glitch in Level 7 to get on the 2nd level, but I couldn’t figure out how to do it on command 🤣
Luckly for speedrunners it can be done consistency, unlike some of the newer glitches.
10:39 What happened there?
That is another glitch.... I believe it's another integer overflow glitch.
Good job, really enjoyed watching this. I havent even completed this game. Weird that you thought it was a bad run but you beat the world record 😂
I had recently switched over to in game time, I had been running strictly real time on my timer for quite a while...
Question: Why does the timer stop at 14:04 when there still seems to be control and gameplay? The video in the lower-right seems to continue the timer where the current game has stopped. Where is the Time!-spot supposed to be?
We have an autospliter. The in game time stops when Jaffar dies. The real time continues till the last moment. Our speedruns are based on the in game time not the real time because the in game time ignores things like loading between screens.
@@TimothyMakin I suspected something like that, but then why does the replay in the lower right continue after Jaffar dies?
I had recently switched from a real time autospliter(the one in the replay) to an in game time autospliter. That's why I am so confused at the end. I didn't realise I was doing as good because I was still used to the old numbers from my previous autospliter.
@@TimothyMakin Gotcha. Thank you 🙂
This video comes into my feed and it is really cool. Used to spend my childhood playing this game.
Me too. My brother wouldn't allow me to play on his Nintendo so I was stuck with the computer and DOS.
He says he messed up a bunch...Sense of accomplishment is always subjective lol
You always fell that way. The more you know the more you know what you did wrong.
Always felt the fat guard was tougher than Jaffar, also when the fat guard dies, his body's position is different compared to the other guards and Jaffar
I'm not sure if I have seen Jaf-fat dead very often... usually I would knock him down the well.
@@TimothyMakin If I remember correctly, when he dies, he lies on his back and his head faces the viewer instead of the body lying sideways like the other guards
@@TimothyMakin ua-cam.com/video/WiijQQi4yRM/v-deo.html
You might find this intresting www.speedrun.com/pop1/guide/kxbch
5:14 the fat máster... Hardest guard on the game, in my childhood i spent countless hours until i finally finish the game, with only 15 seconds on the clock!!!
naah, he's easy. the lvl 9 guy is much worse, the one that never walks forward
The good thing about THAT guard(on level 8 actually) is that he is very consistent. A new strat is to actually have him push you through a wall that leads to the very end of the level.
Maybe i remember wrong, but dont you have to obtain the sword first?
Yes, usually you would go get the sword first because otherwise you can't pass the guard, unless you can get past the guard without killing him. There are two ways of doing this, first you can jump over him like I do here, but you can also lure him into the next room and drop down behind him.
"Jaffar, I tried my best! He just jumped through me, though"
I sometimes don't think Jaffar pays them enough to really try.
@@TimothyMakinFor starters, it's Jaffar not Jafar. The other guy turns into a snake! This guy just blahs.
What a fun run. the ending is also priceless. Couldnt tell if it was a bit at first XD
During this run I had recently changed over to the in-game timer so I was confused.
Cool dealing with Jaffar there
Thanks! There are actually a couple of ways to get past Jaffar This is kind of just the standard way.
so cool I never knew you could jump past the first guard I tried that so many times as a kid
I actually have a tutorial on how to do it on my channel. Although you can actually easily go around him instead of getting the sword. If you lure him into the next room past where you fall, you can climb up and around him and not have to go get the sword.
I remember trying to figure this out and dyeing over a hundred times.
One of my favorite games back in the day. Scorched Earth, Prince of Persia, and King's Quest 5.
I personally think the gameplay still holds up.
Scorched Earth? that's the one that is like Gorillas but with tanks that can move right?
@@TimothyMakin Indeed. I forgot about the Qbasic awesomeness that had Gorillas and Nibbles lol!
In level 8, at 6:36, you can save another 30 secs, by aiming to jump across from the edge, catch the other corner, and then leave shift to catch the below ledge. This is far more smoother.
Thanks for the advice. There is actually a brand new strat for this level that skips most of the level ua-cam.com/video/TTg9DwFRzlM/v-deo.html
Anyone know how where to find and run it on W10?
ua-cam.com/video/I_1clmv-ri0/v-deo.html
@@TimothyMakin thank youu
man my uncle showed me this game on his pc when i was a lil kid.
Used to play this game a lot🙌💯good times&the animations were so good back in the days.
It's pretty easy to get it up and running on modern computers using DOSBox.
Dooood this was a nice run! As for me, the farthest I could get was level 8. In the end I used that "prince megahit" exe cheat that allowed me to skip levels. lol at Jafar falling to his death instead of beaten in an epic sword battle
Level 8 is kind of the hump you have to get over to beat the game... The cool thing about "Prince Megahit" / "prince improved" is that you could use them to replay level 8.
Super game of its time. Thanks for reminding me those days.
No problem. It's an important thing for me too.
"this probably isn't world record, but it's a good run."
Ya, it was kind of a shock. Of course it's not uncommon I think for speedrunners to think they did much worse then they actually did.
TIL, you don’t need to defeat the swordsmen. This was great!
There is a Pacifist version of this run... Unfortunatly, the last door won't open unless Jaffar dies so runners often say "Jaffar I mean you no harm" before making him fall down the hole.
Hang on. How did he get the sword when he skipped that in the first level?
There must be a bunch of swords just lying on the steps to the later levels.
It was just programed that way. Probably so that the Level skip (shift-L) will work.
wat a platform on it ?
Best version its on NES
This is the DOS version.
Phenomenal! I have never seen anything like it.
Thanks! There is even a faster run here ua-cam.com/video/Kw4li-hOkE4/v-deo.html by my friend Esteban Figueroa who currently has the WR.
Please Are you make the speedrun guide?
Well, I have made a few videos of how to do specific strats. So that is kind of a guide for Speedrunning already. I haven't made all the videos for all the strats yet. I am a teacher and I don't have a lot of time to make videos.
Played this with my brother and father, eventually beat the game after many tries and several tips from my father's coworkers. Good times
Ya, I think most of these games were team effort when we first played them. The entire family helped with Monkey Island when I was a kid.
Ahh Moneky Island, another gem right there.
brings back memories.. haven't played this game since forever
Ya, it's honestly a fun game even to just play casually.
This is so what 60’s action movies felt like.
Since the sword fighting is taken dirrectly form an Errol Flynn movie more like 1930's acton movie?
Very impressive gaming skills, sir! Well done!
Thanks, that's the cool thing about speedrunning. Most people only see that one run where you didn't fail a bunch :P So the really impressive part isn't the skill per se but the tenasity.
10:53 Surely, He's the master guard of the game.
He is the only guard that has a gate behind him like that... some of the newer runs use a stragity where this guard pushes you through the gate.
@@TimothyMakin also he is one of the toughest guards with unpredictable moves indeed.
I agree.
Hmmmm this is the point in which he improved from the previous run. Cause he was lagging behind the whole play, until here.
Hi, congratulations on the fantastic execution! Question: How can I also have the SHIFT, CTRL, RESTART LEVEL, LEFT, RIGHT, JUMP, etc. keys at the bottom of the game screen?
Thank you
You can do this with an OBS plugin called "input overlay"
obsproject.com/forum/resources/input-overlay.552/
Never thought that the hardest part of this game would be to realize it is a world record run :)
This happened when we switched from a real time Autosplitter to an in game time auto splitter.
Thanks for reminding me all of the times I ended up short on time in Level 13...
But you did eventually beat it. I am guessing. It isn't a very hard game, but it is very unintutative. Beating Pop is like beating two games at once. You have to master these strange mechanics and then use them to beat the game. But you do feel a great sense of accomplishment when you finally beat it.
@@TimothyMakinActually, yes I beat it... and I even worked at Ubisoft on another Prince of Persia title thereafter, which included a version of this game bundled in as an extra. One of our devs had to hex-hack out the timer from the game to make it more palatable to a more modern audience ;)
Still, great run!
The sands of time speedrun is pretty awesome too.
They should put it in the Sot remake.
I remember once making it without knowing anything about the save function!
Ya, I didn't know about the save function. Now that you mention it I don't think I have ever used it.
Great run! I beat this game in 27 years, 77 days, 14 hrs
27 is a good run too. If you reran it today you wouldn't be to far down the list.
Salve, complimenti per l'esecuzione fantastica! Domanda come faccio ad avere anche io i tasti SHIFT,CTRL,RESTART LEVEL,LEFT,RIGHT,JUMP,ecc.in basso nella schermata di gioco?
Grazie
Amedeo
Puoi farlo con un plugin OBS chiamato "input overlay"
obsproject.com/forum/resources/input-overlay.552/
@@TimothyMakin Grazie
4:22-4:33, 5:50 what was that? A bug?
Yes and really easy to reproduce. You can get to that level using the command "Prince improved 7"
Sitting here laughing my ass of watching him avoid fights lunging across people. Didn't know that was possible.
I think I remeber acidentally jumping over a guard once as a kid, but I really didn't think it was Viable until I saw CapnClever's GDQ run: ua-cam.com/video/USv8OQbg73M/v-deo.html
Great job. Love the music. What sound card did you choose in dosbox? Sounds better than my old Adlib.
It's complicated. So there is this program called Munt MT-32 Emulator.
@@TimothyMakin I got Munt working the other day for Sierra games. Sounds awesome.
Do you know how to quicksave and quickload?
Ctrl+G will save the game but I beleve that it only works from level 3 on. Ctrl + L will Load your save but you will always start off at the beginning of the level. I made a video about using Quick Save and Quick Load using a different version of DOS Box ... I often use that version for practicing, but it isn't allowed for Speedruns and I am not sure it would be good for them anyway.
5:53?how did that happen?is there a bug there? and 10:41??
Sure is. The game tracks your position even when you are off screen, and doesn't switch screens as long as you are continually backing up.
My first computer game , i ve never finished it
No reason you can't finish it now. I think if you gave it two attempts a day for a week you could finish it.
Pretty sure at 11:44 should have fallen down that hole. Bit of a glitch?
That is an example of what we call "hard jump." Not sure why we decided to call it that, but it's stuck.
ПРивет Дугин, классно играешь!
Скорее Маркс!
What I always wanted to know was how someone so milk toast white could exist in Persia.
So we know the Princess is the only daughter of the Sultan. We also know that she is not married. That makes the prince himself possibly a foreign suitor. He could be from anywhere. Most likely a viking prince, since they traveled far and wide and their presence in Persian territory was nearly constant. Viking soldiers were some of the most elite soldiers in Persian armies. That would also explain the prince's blond hair. Alternatively, could be Kievan Rus prince, or some pre-viking scandinavian prince.
It actually depends on what graphic setting you choose.
A very large percentage of that area was white/caucasian, Macedonia being a perfect example. Same with Syria. The reason the demographics became darker was due to Arab Muslim infiltration from further east. They even changed the name from Persia to Iran when white Christians became the minority after Muslim invasion, the same as Constantinople in Turkey.
Depends the version you're running of PoP1. Because skipping a guard is impossible with the first 2 version. You will be just killed by once.
That's not correct.
That's what always happened to me when I tried to skip a guard. He just killed me instantly.
you can skip the guard in any of the DOS versions of this game. And in most other versions as well.
I played a version on Mac. The mouse played a important role in the game. The prince was dressed up as a Arab medieval warrior and as far as I remember he has to fight Jaffar at the last round....
The mouse 🐁 usually has an important role in level 8, but the in the speedrun we usually skip the mouse... However! Recently we discovered a way to have the first level 8 guard knock us through a wall landing us at the end of level 8 and the mouse saves us again!
I remember having somehow a different version.
The level's color are either grey/blue or yellow/brighter, but green as in level 3 or brown/olive as in level 9.
The sound was also a different one.
The saw blades had higher and sharper sound just like the spikes. Being hurt by an enemy was also more a sound than a voice.
There are many graphics and sound settings that drastically change those aspects of the game.
Type prince of persia 1989 with pc speakers :)
Probably this is the sound for what you re looking for
I love the PC speaker sound. That's how I originally played it. I think that PC sound messes with percise input needed for Speedrunning. Although I couldn't explain why.
@@andrejnovota5023
NyLan uploaded it two years ago, but unfortunately not the whole game.
Still, these are the sounds I remember, although in my memory, they're still a bit higher, like the saw blade.
That's great transition from WWE to Prince of Persia for Mick Foley
Oh, I will never live down the Mick Foley comparison. Oh well.
me...14 years and still struggling
I think you could beat it... You have to remember that with Prince of Persia, the progression happens in the player not in the game. You get better at the game. The game does not get easier to beat.
So basically a "show me your sword, I'll show you mine" pacifist speedrun, huh? :)
There is actually a pacifist category now. Currently 7eraser7 has the WR in that category.
Amen brother
11:00 fíjate bien.
Dude, this was years ago so my memory might be wrong. But at 5:20, i think you just stand their for a while and something happens, like the shadows moves or something and you get a shortcut. Can't remeber, but like falling down was bad. Are you not purposefully not taking the shortcut?
If there's some kind of cool shortcut here... you've just revolutionized pop speedrunning... but I don't think there is.
I will test it out when I have some time.
I got into this in 2020 and managed to finish the game in about 15 min and 30 sec [ish]. There was a few tricks I couldn't manage. I couldn't do the 10th stage shortcut when you jump into that pit and reapear few screens to the right / up. Also I had tons of problems getting through that level 5 shortcut. I couldn't get it to work. I also couldn't jump passed any guard but the first two so I went around them which takes a sec more per guard aprox. Also - I never was able to figure out how to go straight through the level 7 chompers. There's a trick btw to make them jam, but I couldn't do it. And also there's an amazing shortcut on level 9 that will save you extra time but I couldn't pull it off. Like the last guard can send you through that last door. The rest I was able to figure out and it was pretty awesome :D Also - I think I've seen some new insane tricks not too long ago, but I can't remember. I think it had to do with shortening the level 8..... ow man I forgot :((
Ya, we got a friend of ours on the Prince of Persia speedrunning discord to figure out that level 8 trick. You should really rechord and submit a run if you are able to do sub 20! You should join the prince of Persia speedrunning discord.
@@TimothyMakin Yeah I wanted to do it but I was too lazy to be honest. I'd have to install a screen capture app etc. Under 20 min is easy. It's those minutes below that are really hard to chop away. Also I didn't really consider my gameplay that interesting to upload as it didn't really stand out in any way. I had a pretty good start to level 7 figured out but nothing special.
@@TimothyMakin Also : I had real problems jumping pass the guards. Like I only managed to jump pass the first two and even that took me like 10 to 15 takes... and it's really time consuming to get everything right so eventually I just kind of gave up :D I have to say though' it was a lot of fun. I installed the game in march 2020 during the quaranteene and then I just played it for like 2 months and got my time down to about 30 minutes. I initially played like "no lives lost" kind of thing but then I saw a speedrun and I was like WTF.... :o O.o it blew my mind and of course I had to try and learn and it took about a month to figure most of the things out, however I had a lot of problems with some of the shortcuts and specially Level 5 beginning gave me so many problems.
I have a tutorial for jumping past the first guard on my channel.
BTW sub 20 is like a HUGE achevement! You should definately post a video of it.
I love how he just ignores the guards
I am so glad I do the some of the Guards really tick me off.
I'm surprised that somehow in my childhood I've achieved beating the game and writing my nickname in the scoreboard taking in account that I'm absolutely stupid at gaming.
Maybe you are just good at cinematic platformers. Have you played Flashback or Out of This World?
It's kind of an achievement considering how hard people say this game is.
@@TimothyMakin they both look out of this world now :D
How do you run past the enemies without fighting them? I played this game and I thought it was forced for you to fight enemies? Is it a glitch? Just remember this game being really difficult
The game is difficult, although probably not more difficult then most Retro games from it's time. Three things make this game rather fun to speedrun: one once you know the layout of the levels it becomes trivial to navigate the levels, Two the game is low frames per second(12 out of combat and 10 in combat), Three there is few moments of RNG(Although the moments remaining are emancely frustrating). Jumping guards is usualy frame perfect.... although the lower frame rate helps. Also you don't have to worry about subpixels. I do believe that there are some versions of the game where you Have to fight the enemies... In the DOS version you can jump past them(Considered a glitch by the comunity) or you can advance past them put away your sword and run away(not considered a glitch.)
Jumping guards is considered a glitch... although I only view it as very very hard. but switching sides and running aways isn't considered a glitch.... just perhaps cowardly :)
Man how would anybody think to do 11:27! Crazy! Looked hard
I don't know. I stole that strat from watching CapnClever's run!
I played this game a lot during computing class in elementary school but it was so hard I neve finished it. It feels good to see it getting completed
I remember beating it as a kid. My brother wouldn't let me play on his NES so the computer was my only source of games.
I also want to see Prince of Persia 2 speed run!😄
I have actually yet to beat Pop2. It was one of my goals, but I am a teacher now and I don't have as much free time as I used to.
I dont get. How did he manager to get to The end with only 15 levels?
Some version of the game have more than 14 levels, Particularly the SNES version with 20. The Dos version only has 14 and the last two aren't even considered full levels.
@@TimothyMakin tks for the info. I never played other than the snes version
The Snes speedruns are even crazyer.
You are the true Prince of Persia!
Thanks I try!
Thanks! Hopefully I will find some time and get my old World Record back!
i watched a documentary about the guy who made this game. the animations look really cool even now
Jordan Mechner. He actually published his Journals during the making of pop1 and pop2. I was also lucky enought to get mentioned in the back of that book.
It seems a lot harder than i remember 😂😂
I really don't think it is any harder then any other retro game.
“Okay so ah… that’s a new world record”😅. It didn’t sound like humblebrag, it sounded like you were coming back from another dimension hehe! Congrats!!
Ya, I was really confused... I probaby should have known better, but I had recently switched over to In Game Time on my timer, and I did make a few small errors and I was convinced they were much worse then they actually were. It was like I crossed the finishline balancing on one tire.
incredible action! good job
Thanks!
13:25 is that a glitch?
Yes, it is an integer overflow bug.
A bliss to watch this speedrun, nearly perfect, only some little mistakes!
Thanks, there are a lot better runs out there now. you sould check them out also.
Love this game. Played for hours on end during my childhood years. My fastest time was like 29 minutes though… thanks to that stiff guard in level 8.
Ah, the "Lurker" fortunatly because he is soooo aggressive he is actually MORE consistent and allows for a really cool NEW strat on level 8: ua-cam.com/video/Kw4li-hOkE4/v-deo.html
insane dude
Thanks! I really hope to one day do go back and get my World Record back. But that would take a lot more time then I have now.
this game feels oddly satisfying to speedrun kinda like you have parkour when you do
I love the feeling of acomplishment speedrunning. Every second faster feels so good.
Actually, the first time I saw parkour, I though it was like Prince of Persia! 😄
لا يتذكرها سوى مواليد الثمانينات ونظام MS DOS
نعم انا من مواليد 1981
The Prince of Persia game is really difficult. We want to go out the door and find a sword to fight the enemy in order to save the princess trapped in the palace and also forced to marry by the head of the king.
As with any thing it is only hard because you don't know stuff. Specifically, you don't know the route the prince has to take and you don't know the controls. The route can be studied, but the controls need to be practiced. Honesty, I feel that any one can beat the game in two weeks two hours a day. And anyone who has beaten the game can immediately beat it again.
That moment when you accidently improve the WR by 2 minutes
Also, came here after the WR Progression of Prince of Persia vid.
I hope Otterspocket puts out another! There are a bunch of impressive new runner to talk about!
Wait you can beat the first level without getting the sword 🤯🤯
Ya I suppose it's so you have the sword even if you Shift-L to the next level.