Also, it doesn't help there is a market for cheaper meds. In a time when people are desperate to save money. Regardless of country. These meds aren't going anywhere. If governments implement rules that increase the cost of meds. People will be mad. I live in New Zealand where we have public health care. Government needs to pay for them meds somehow. It normally paid with increased tax. Go to America with no public health care. People pay out of their own pocket at the doctors. Do you risk it to save money to feed kids or do you not risk it and have less money for your kids food. I'm lucky as I am self employed but I understand that not everyone is in my position.
It would be accurate to say that the West is dangerously reliant on China for most of its manufacturing. I thought things would start to change after the pandemic but we just settled back into the status quo.
Also you figure the Evergiven/Suez Canal blockage would wake up companies to the necessity of at least more domestic/regional production so there's less places for shipping to go wrong. And when something does go wrong we can be tied over until things get fixed.
@@route2070won't happen simply cause outsourcing stuff is cheaper than doing it nativley. And in the end, the almighty dollar and the shareholders determine all of this.
When you disembowel your own manufacturing industry/ies, and rely on slave labor (ie low prices) sans any moral accountability? What could possibly go wrong?
We rely on China way too much in general. When its cheaper to pay, build and ship from China, than it is to do so in your own country.. there's a big problem somewhere.
Nah, it was cheaper to ship the manufacturing job to China, a lot bigger profits for the oligarchs. Do you ever wonder why even when they want to withdraw from CHina, they still don't bring the jobs home.
China don't follow all the net zero stuff so energy is cheap , if you want to see industrial destruction by energy starvation look at Germany . Shame that pipeline biden said they wanted gone mysteriously blew up , tho the resulting lng shipments have proven very lucrative for the US. Funny how the climate agenda only applies to plebs and gets pushed aside when big money interests are involved. Gloabl crisis but they dont include the footprint of manufacture and shipping from china so the firms get to pick up huge tax breaks and subsidies - almost as if a higher power was engineering the wests downfall
@@rap3208 Yes, even the Chinese are just putting plants in Vietnam and Mexico for final assembly but all they key parts/materials are coming from China. Politicians will strut around saying "look trade imbalances with China are down" but they are just more obfuscated. It is capitalism and lowest prices that rule the market.
Here in Hong Kong blood pressure medication is pretty expensive, there isn't state funded healthcare like it is in the UK, so we have to pay for everything like America, short wait times but man is it expensive sometimes. There's always good and bad things about each country's public services
Insulin already has supply problems into the UK - right now. My son and wife are type1. People are struggling to get a life saving medication - and this happening right now in the UK. I already know of people travelling round cities to find a pharmacy with insulin pens in 'stock' for dispensing. Vials (for pumps) seem ok for now, it seems injection pens have supply chain issues. Really worrying.
same here - I'm a t1d since i was 9, living in NL. I've been reliant on Fiasp as its the only insulin I'm not allergic to. I also use nuvaring, specific brand of antidepressants, specific brands of heart & BP meds. Other brands I'm allergic to or make me very sick. Guess what's barely available? All of the above. I've had to travel to belgium and germany to get my hands on the insulin and medicine despite requesting everything 2 weeks in advance. There just wasn't any supply AT ALL. It's so dangerous. This shortage and reliance on other countries for medicine (who have often questionable production methods and safety standards) will kill people, if it hasn't killed people already.
I read an interesting article about the differences between the US and Chinese business economies. One point made was in the US specifically (and the west overall) the economy is designed to help businesses grow and increase profitability. In China, that is secondary to maintaining or improving a strategic national position. Every decision, every approval, every investment, takes in to account the national interests first. This used to be a consideration but really started to swing away in the mid to late 80’s.
west cant compete on labour costs either , maybe that's why they are pushing a similar model to the ccp , wef/great reset for example. National interests first similar I think in Russia which is why they produce things alot cheaper, no money laundering taxpayer coffers which is then fed back through multinet corps and finance hubs so everyone in the long chain gets a slice. Most traded western manufacturing uses chinese labour to some extent also, alot was made on the pandemic and was beneficial to china , though with this latest scheme weapons are likely a diffeernt matter but the materials required are in the hands of non western nations also , expect africa to become of increasing interest to the spreaders of democracy . I gather President T was setting up pharma manufacturing in south American countries like Puerto Rico but which would have cut of the middle men and pulled a few snouts from the troff , think it was abandoned by the caring and democratic with the 'sharp ' leader , also the orange man bad wanted to reject net zero to entice manufacturing back - china also continues to expand its coal plants and cares not for UN pushed legislation so energy costs are significantly lower - everything costs more in the west
I heard a lot of cases/speculation about China's threat, but in reality, this is rarely the case (except the rare-earth ban on Japan in 2010s). But the West actuallt has +10000 sanctions on the rest of the world! They exclude Russia from SWIFT (how is Russia supposed to buy vaccine without access to international banking?). What makes this worse is there is NO direct conflict between Russia and the West, and the West is more than willing to apply such sanction RIGHT AWAY.
@@oceanwave4502 Over half of the world is sanctioned by the US. The problem with sanctions is they are easy to put on my studies show they are hard to remove. So if you are China, who do you fear? The US. So they want to be in everything to make themselves sanction proof. We are creating a competitor because they fear being cut off. The problem now is we have so many sanctions that for many countries it is dangerous to have the US as your supplier. Not to mention targeted sanctions don't work either because even if we sanction certain industries, our banks are too scared to be fined by US regulators so they won't process any transactions to the country whether it involves sanctioned products or not. We've gone crazy with sanctions.
So after the Arab oil embargo in the 1970s, the US established their own strategic oil reserves in case something like a war in the Middle East put America's petroleum needs in jeopardy. (Petroleum goes beyond energy. Nitrogen based fertilizers are produced from petroleum. You can't grow corn with lithium.) So why doesn't America have a strategic chemistry reserve so the chemicals needed to create medications don't suffer a similar crash?
We actually do have something like that, but only for certain medications. Also, that does nothing about the general consolidation in suppliers for many important drugs. Lastly, drugs expire in a way that petroleum does not, generally after no more than a few years. Expired medications can be less effective and even harmful. There's a reason why sale, dispensing, and distribution of expired drugs is illegal. That stockpile would require periodic (and very expensive) replenishment.
@@vic5015stockpile them and then hash out the drugs in regular circulation a year before expiration - then replenish the stockpile. It's not nearly as difficult as you're making it seem, and what I just said can be done with each specific medication, to account for different expiration dates. That said - I've taken expired everything, and never had an issue of any kind.. the only issue is degradation of its efficacy, and most drugs just don't expire to the point where they won't work at all. But, again, this can be avoided entirely. It comes down to cost vs reward - and they just don't care enough about the average person to put in that kind of effort. The bare minimum is the name of the game in regards to governments.
The US is also fighting for cobalt and lithium to produce electronics by proxy in the Congo against China. Volunteering to build roads, hospitals and train tracks obviously weren't going to be free, the Africans should have considered the risks of being sandwiched between the power struggle of 2 massive countries 😮
@@vic5015 This person knows. And the stockpile is mainly focused on BioWarfare (coz we all love a good war, right!). There's plenty of cipro to deal with an anthrax attack, but nothing for Granny's blood pressure.
@@1PhoenixRising That makes sense. Still, we don't know when or if China could invade Taiwan or how long our country could support them before China pulls the plug.
Not willing to pay more, we don't have a choice when they are needed to keep living... For Profit should be illegal, if a company is caught price fixing and so on, the Board and CEO should be imprisoned for 10 years, no appeal, no release before full time served.
Self sufficient nations are a myth. Ask how North Korea and Cuba are doing being self sufficient That's not to say that we should put the majority of our production in the hands of an ideological enemy
One aspect rarely considered in western world: without China's products and India's service, western people would soon realize they're not that rich as they think they are.
There's currently a global shortage of certain diabetes medications that does not appear to be related to China. If big pharma can drop the ball on something this important during a normal situation, if there's a geopolitical crisis, a lot of us are going to get ill or die while the pharmaceutical industry ramps up production. 😢
If you are talking about ozempic and those that cause weight loss. That’s a the doctors need to be regulated and not allowed to prescribe meds unless the person has the condition that requires the meds. Doctors do this stuff all the time without proper studies. Another med they love to prescribe for pain is gabapentin. It’s an anti seizure med. not a pain med. the preliminary studies are showing there isn’t much relief for pain. It’s also highly addictive and now docs are going to create the next generation of drug addicts. Just like they did with opioid pain meds.
I wouldnt say always. EU was build on an idea that if we are dependent on each other we Can not wage wars with each other... And thankfuly France and Germany (and with them half of the continent) did on fight for +- 80 years
It was America that imposed sanctions upon China in 2017/18, not the other way around. This was done in a malicious intent to prevent China's apparent advancement in every science & economy sector despite the fact that China's success in no way diminishes anyone else's, America included.
@@andrejmaslo5056individual European countries have very little natural resources. The EU is the only way Europe stays competitive in a world where the little guy can finally start building and owning things for himself. This didn't come out of any enlightened idea of Unity.
Even disruption of friendly supply chains can cause severe problems. One of the drugs I rely on comes from Canada, and during the Covid disruption it wasn't coming to Australia in sufficient quantity to fulfil demand.
if you take into account how less money the actual production cost is in comparison to the shelf price in western countries, it should be no big deal if production cost rises 30%. I mean look how much you have to pay for insulin in the us and compare it to other countries, even in the EU. But i have a feeling that its more like +30% of shelf pricing... And if manufacturers don't act fast enough and we get a price crunch, then we a really f in the a.
I’m not really a fan of government overreach but instead of banning TikTok maybe the US government shouldn’t allow US pharmaceutical companies to manufacture drugs in China
Wait what stop share holders making money never going to happen with the government basically under the thumb of lobby groups and large corporations pulling the strings.
Why? The pharmaceutical companies lobby the politicians to keep it this way on purpose so they can have insane profits. If they didn’t use China, how would they make all of their money?
We are dangerously reliant on China for everything. Since covid struck our local production of almost everything has accelerated beyond recovery for almost every sector. You can't blame the consumer though, Chinese products direct are often less than 1/3 price direct
A large part of that equation is that it is difficult to find Made in the USA products anywhere, let alone some as tightly regulated as medications. The percentage of goods in the American market that are made in China is well over 60%, and if anywhere else besides USA that percentage is closer to 90%. We can change this, but it will take a longtime.
This problem is hardly unique to pharmaceuticals... China controls what 80% of the rare earth metal mining/refining. No one else wants to do it cuz its inefficient, messy, environmentally damaging and not financially worthwhile in general, better to let China do it for us and suffer all the consequences and then we can just buy it from them... Problem is, they see us as the enemy and in any major conflict they can just... not sell us rare earth metals... which would destroy basically the entire high tech industry WHICH IS COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON RARE EARTH FUCKING METALS, COMODITIES FOR WHICH CHINA CONTROLS 80% OF THE SUPPLY. Everyone thinks of China as the place that manufacturers cheap low-quality toasters and knock off Nike's, in truth they have their hands in everything and near monopolies on many commodities which are vital to industries around the world. The US Japan and the EU might design the chips that make the world go round, but China mines the raw materials that make the manufacture of those chips possible... What about steel... The US doesn't make steel... we recycle it of course, but we sell iron ore to China, and they actually smelt it and make the steel... This problem is hardly unique to pharmaceuticals...
The problem for China, however, is that if they do indeed shut off the supply of these drugs, they will essentially be signing their death note. Not only would they lose the revenue, but it would undoubtedly cause an equal or more significant reaction from almost every nation in the world. The problem with China being such a manufacturing powerhouse is that you need people and countries to sell all of that product too.
All we have to do to stop the chinese is stop buying their shit. I try as often as possible to not buy products made in China but it doesn't do much good when most if not all goods contain precursor chemicals or components made in China.
There is the whole world out there aside from the G7 consisting of more than 7 billion people. Don't twist it around and make your death knell be China's if they stop supplying your medecines.
Yup. There's a reason their former blast furnace of an economy has been slowing down for a while, now. Chinese labour USED to be cheap simply because they had a massive population they could mobilize and pay peanuts to make cheap crap. But, those people made money, they saved it, and they're now in a position where their labour is more in demand and, thus, more valuable; a reasonable portion of this is due to China's slow demographic collapse because they aren't having enough children on their own and immigration basically doesn't exist, there. With more and more people either aging out of the workforce or emigrating somewhere they can get paid better, that pool of available labour is shrinking steadily. They're trying to fix the problem by forcing the Uighurs into slavery, but that's only a bandaid solution that's left them in a severely compromised position since slavery is...kinda frowned upon by most people. And, that's only gonna cause those Uighurs that CAN leave to piss off somewhere they won't get sent to a work camp for the high crime of being Muslim. And, given how ruthlessly profit-focused modern deregulated capitalism is, it makes perfect sense that they'd start finding other places where the cost per person of labour is even lower than in China. Preferably some place most people either don't give a shit about, or at least has better optics. Then, they can slap "Not made with Chinese slave labour, we promise! :D" stickers on their products, ratchet the price up 50%, and laugh as they set briefcases full of money on fire in front of homeless orphans. And, thus, the cycle will continue. The next country will get a booming economy, raise the local standard of living, causing labour to become more expensive, then the vultures will bugger off to the next country they can exploit in the global race to the bottom. Hooray! :D
I don’t think they intend to cut off supply. They gain more by supplying the products to everyone else. It seems pretty obvious that the Chinese intend to win by growing bigger than their competitors, not by making their competitors smaller.
Reason why alot of medicines stopped working during and since the pandemic.Its better for them to give a placebo than nothing at all money and panic involved.
A very depressing scenario. As is the manufacturing industry of many products. If all these global companies want to put profit above ethics, then they can’t start throwing their, metaphorical dummies out of their prams, and start making complaints!
Hey, Simon, I'm wondering. You made two videos, one avout the abused child Genie and another with the film Cannibal Holocaust. Weirdly, I can't find the video on your channel. Do you know were I can find it somewhere?
One of my teachers, Dr. Robert Svoboda, is first westerner to have graduated from an Indian university of Ayurveda. Paraphrasing him, modern materialistic and scientific medicine is most effective at treating acute conditions with invasive treatments, e.g. chemo for cancer, surgery, etc. Indigenous or traditional medical systems such as ayurveda or daoist medicine are more likely to suggest lifestyle and herbal treatments that are more likely to promote long-term balance in the organism (a more difficult claim to test) than the relatively immediate and intensive effects of modern medicines. For example, if a modern psychiatrist prescribes an antidepressant, there may be a short-term observable benefit to that drug while the long-term consequences and impact of taking that substance on a daily basis remain unstudied and unknown. By contrast, following a suitable exercise routine and spending more time doing breathing exercises in a forest and adjusting your diet to suit your individual body's needs can take a long time to dial in, but in many cases could be more effective in the long term.
@@martinus4873yes, actually. China is very much a capitalist state, despite the name of the ruling political party. You can literally buy stock in the bank of China. If you seriously think using the name of communism is all it takes to be communist, you understand neither communism nor capitalism.
Capitalism is so bad that people are willing to die to get to capitalist countries. Except for North Koreans, NO ONE takes risks to get into communist countries.
I think China is fighting a different war than the US. They are fighting an economic / political war, while the US is trying to fight a military one. Only time will tell who is fighting the right one.
Every government should have a department for disaster Response which just sits down and plans for disaster and buys long lasting resources to be stored
I remember discussions on this years ago. not made in america due to wrong PE ratio or something? Related to brick and mortar going out of style? maybe wall street can figure out a way to use AI to make drug factories in a few days
We'll be happy to do trade with the west. Indians themselves tend to be consumerists and use a lot of Western services/products. India is a very neutral country without an expansionist agenda.
At least India is a democracy. Not a communist dictatorship. India doesn't threaten its neighbours, and neither does India have a repressive security apparatus. India is a free, democratic nation. Red China is like the DPRK, but with money.
Wow. I take several generic drugs daily. This makes me rather nervous. I also take a monoclonal antibody treatment for MS, but at least that is manufactured in the US.
if you rely on a drug to survive do what you have to keep a 180 day supply , most times the disruption won't last that long and even if it does the demand for it will drop considerably when people dependant on it that didn't prepare expire .
China is always so much cheaper with so many things that companies commit to buying from China. Soon the companies become totally dependent on China. Thereby China then manipulates its dominance to its advantage. We now know that China is looking out for what is in its best interests. They may conflict with Western interests.
I knew China was making all the drugs but did I catch that right that now since the Chinese need the same drugs they are starting to be concerned about quality??? Do you know where the narcotics for the drug trade are manufactured? China
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid the US is when it comes to reliance of foreign countries (especially China) for so many things. How have we not learned??? Sometimes, greed is not good.
We Sardinians are experiencing China's tight grip first hand, they're expropriating our land to build wind farms and solar plants, while at the same time trumping our economy. The excuse? “Increasing the production of renewable energy by 2025”, even though Sardinia isn't allowed to stop using carbon energy plants until 2028. They're using the same tactics they adopt in China: threats, intimidation, massive expropriation and relocation, and sketchy bureaucracy.
@@Thenewbronzeagecollapse So they all of a sudden arrived at your doorstep threatening you, did they? Your government obviously sought to do business with them for some sort of benefit but didn't consider the long term risks
sure are alot of dodgy links between brandon and china/ukrne - pandemics and wars pay well , so does energy . Global elites still have access to the eastern cookie jar , but they use the crisis they create to get rich and push the need for domestic and foreign policy changes that continue to enrich them at the expense of the cnn/bbc viewers that voted them in
The issue is not a country. The issue is money. If you’re wealthy you can get what you need or want. Which in my opinion is why so called leaders globally don’t want to change anything. They’re good. It’s the poor and middle classes that aren’t good but who cares about them. Keep voting for rich people like they care about you.
not necessarily.. i remember my adult twins birthday a few years back. my dad gave them a few hundred dollars i gave them a pack of toilet paper... they laughed and said i was stupid, i told them to take those hundreds and come back with a pack of toilet tissue.... yeah. when they are out they are out.
It's the same for most synthetic uhh hypolegal pharmaceuticals. Even 'fun' stuff like fent and now the even deadlier nitazenes comes straight from legally registered chinese labs
Isn't the second manufacturer of meds India? Also, the world did nothing to address the issues raised by a modern pandemic, much less has any plans in place for catastrophes.
Assuming the government acts in the best interests of it's people, is it better to pass the increased cost to the consumer, or let the corporation making billions take the hit?
GSK used to get ingredients from a Chinese company called organic herb in the UK in drums with false labels on the outside and unmarked silver foil packets inside of god only knows what inside, I was told it'd be a waste of money to test it prior to use and got to train my Slavic replacement that wouldn't ask questions 4 weeks later
I’ve decided that’s why we are all scratching our heads over Gen Z. How in this world did an entire generation get to adulthood without knowing that humans working together is how wonderful things happen
@@williambrennan5701 I'm skeptical that even that will cause us to work together. I feel like there'll be some douchebag or conglomerate or douchebags that will try to screw over the rest of humanity in an alien invasion, in an all too common shortsighted attempt at consolidating their wealth/power. I don't think the threat of extinction is enough to stop sociopaths from being sociopaths
This reminds me of the way Europe had become so reliant on importing Russian hydrocarbons for their energy needs by February 2022 that Vladimir Putin was able to blackmail them by threatening to cut off the supply. It was only able to avoid a disaster that winter due to European governments having the political will not to bend to Putin's demands and spending the enormous amount of money required to transition over to the Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) which is available in large quantities from Norway, the United States, and other reliable sources.
Yup. They will never make enough food domestically to support their population. They already fished their own oceans to death. That's why they constant invade SEA waters. Its literally because they want food security, only make it seem like a show of force to distract from the fact that they will suffer from food shortages.
@@jordanhicks5131 I wonder if they have some alternative food source who will gladly help them out... Hm, who could that be - some country with big territories and developed agriculture... Someone with whom they are friends, I wonder...
@@skforgplus but then Russia has to cut someone else off, probably in Africa, to sell the Chinese the immense amount of food imports required. I feel like if the Russians could be supplying their friend with the food instead of the US, it would already be happening
If there's an actual military conflict though which is increasingly likely due to China's increasing rhetoric towards Taiwan and its daily increasing aggression in the South China Sea they would.
@@whocares3530 He dreams of a socialist Utopia where money doesn't exist and we all work together. He would be the first to volunteer to be a roofer and clean septic tanks for the good of everyone. Gotta admire that.
I get the concern, but there’s no way the US government would not react to something where they would do affect these types of chains of goods. Also, you have to remember that if China does that to the United States, every other country in the world will be hesitant to ever work with them out of fear they will do the same so then maintaining that relationship with United States also maintains the relationship with everybody else And I’m sorry that if it came to that, I have a belief that the United States would find a way to make those types of chemicals very quickly
Ohhhh if only those files were public. I'm reformed now but I've spoken to people in mainland China brazenly selling fentanyl and synthetic analogs of THC, ketamine, MDMA, amphetamine - and bragging about getting subsidies from the Chinese government.
It was never a secret. Fentanyl was first derived in the 60s. "White china" was fentanyl that appeared in tye 70s. Once a chemical compound is found to have important properties, it's relatively easy for decent chemist to reverse enguneer
So we haven't learnt our lesson after the circus of 2020. We are way to dependent on red China for way too much. Red China is most likely to become an adversary in the future. We really find alternative sources for our needs. Putting our bets on red China really is a bad idea.
China is only producing (relatively) low-value compounds. We were able to outsource the precursors so quickly because the processes are simple to set up. Repatriation will be rapid once there is a financial incentive.
This is just an exaggeration, first the west and china are both dependent on each other, secondly history has it that US likes to use economic hegemony against countries that don't share the same idiologies as them while china doesn't necessarily associates politics with trade so if there is a government to worry is maybe 😏 china, china should de-risk or decouple from the west
While this is a dangerous place to be in and threats can be made, this IS a double edged sword. You can cut off your customers, but then who pays you if you do? In other areas of manufacturing, there has been a slow exodus since covid which had left some Chinese suppliers scrambling for orders and some shops closing down. Their economy is not in the best place and cutting off medical supplies would not make it any better. That said, dumb people do dumb things and maybe Xi, like Putin, has a few dumb mistakes and miscalculations up his sleeve.
We trust China with pharmaceuticals, recording equipment and even airline parts… yet they have the worst security reputation in the world.. we’re living in weird times 😂😂
First, I agree with the basic premise that too much reliance on China for various products is risky. I agree many companies have hooked their wagons to suppliers from a country that has unfettered government control over those suppliers. However, this content’s premise and repeated insinuations that China has complete control over pharmaceutical production is beyond exaggeration, and is riddled with misleading script. Additionally, the content mixes “precursors” with “active ingredients,” using both in multiple instances interchangeably when they are not necessarily the same chemical. To my point of misleading script, past 3:30, “only a few companies are in total control of every step involved in the production of each drug” which is said following reference to China’s 40% of global production and fails to identify the “few” companies controlling “every step.” As stated, those few companies could be Norwegian. And since multiple references are made to either precursors or active ingredients, which are both subsets of the entirety of steps to the final pharmaceutical, contradicts the claim of “every step.” There are more instances, but such a waste of time to list. The annoying heartbeat that seeps in later reminds me of a thriller movie soundtrack…pitiful for an informative intent. Who writes this drivel for you Simon?
@serriajohn it's a forever enemy. Their fight over a glacier has proved that. They beat each other to death in giant stick fights in the mountains. That's an enemy, and not due to national interest. Don't be foolish
And the worst thing is that it didn't have to be this way.
It was the American side that broke the relations with China in 2017/18 when Trump imposed sanctions against China. Not the other way around.
But with share holders demanding more and more profit it was always going to happen.
Also, it doesn't help there is a market for cheaper meds. In a time when people are desperate to save money. Regardless of country. These meds aren't going anywhere. If governments implement rules that increase the cost of meds. People will be mad. I live in New Zealand where we have public health care. Government needs to pay for them meds somehow. It normally paid with increased tax. Go to America with no public health care. People pay out of their own pocket at the doctors. Do you risk it to save money to feed kids or do you not risk it and have less money for your kids food. I'm lucky as I am self employed but I understand that not everyone is in my position.
Correct! Shortsighted politicians and billionaire that don't care about other people is why we go to this point. Cheers!
It would be accurate to say that the West is dangerously reliant on China for most of its manufacturing. I thought things would start to change after the pandemic but we just settled back into the status quo.
Because it works. It's only when one party has nefarious intentions that it becomes a problem
We learned not a single thing from the PPE shortage from China during COIVD. China prioritizing domestic use first over exports? Pika.jpg
Lol they changed the title
Also you figure the Evergiven/Suez Canal blockage would wake up companies to the necessity of at least more domestic/regional production so there's less places for shipping to go wrong. And when something does go wrong we can be tied over until things get fixed.
@@route2070won't happen simply cause outsourcing stuff is cheaper than doing it nativley. And in the end, the almighty dollar and the shareholders determine all of this.
When you disembowel your own manufacturing industry/ies, and rely on slave labor (ie low prices) sans any moral accountability?
What could possibly go wrong?
We rely on China way too much in general. When its cheaper to pay, build and ship from China, than it is to do so in your own country.. there's a big problem somewhere.
Nah, it was cheaper to ship the manufacturing job to China, a lot bigger profits for the oligarchs. Do you ever wonder why even when they want to withdraw from CHina, they still don't bring the jobs home.
China don't follow all the net zero stuff so energy is cheap , if you want to see industrial destruction by energy starvation look at Germany . Shame that pipeline biden said they wanted gone mysteriously blew up , tho the resulting lng shipments have proven very lucrative for the US. Funny how the climate agenda only applies to plebs and gets pushed aside when big money interests are involved. Gloabl crisis but they dont include the footprint of manufacture and shipping from china so the firms get to pick up huge tax breaks and subsidies - almost as if a higher power was engineering the wests downfall
That capitalism problem 🤣 they want more profit over security
Yes, the big problem is greed at the tops of the markets
@@rap3208 Yes, even the Chinese are just putting plants in Vietnam and Mexico for final assembly but all they key parts/materials are coming from China. Politicians will strut around saying "look trade imbalances with China are down" but they are just more obfuscated. It is capitalism and lowest prices that rule the market.
Here in Hong Kong blood pressure medication is pretty expensive, there isn't state funded healthcare like it is in the UK, so we have to pay for everything like America, short wait times but man is it expensive sometimes. There's always good and bad things about each country's public services
Insulin already has supply problems into the UK - right now. My son and wife are type1. People are struggling to get a life saving medication - and this happening right now in the UK. I already know of people travelling round cities to find a pharmacy with insulin pens in 'stock' for dispensing. Vials (for pumps) seem ok for now, it seems injection pens have supply chain issues. Really worrying.
same here - I'm a t1d since i was 9, living in NL. I've been reliant on Fiasp as its the only insulin I'm not allergic to.
I also use nuvaring, specific brand of antidepressants, specific brands of heart & BP meds. Other brands I'm allergic to or make me very sick.
Guess what's barely available? All of the above.
I've had to travel to belgium and germany to get my hands on the insulin and medicine despite requesting everything 2 weeks in advance. There just wasn't any supply AT ALL.
It's so dangerous. This shortage and reliance on other countries for medicine (who have often questionable production methods and safety standards) will kill people, if it hasn't killed people already.
I thought this was bc of brexit tho
That is a direct result of Brexit, nothing else
@@aaronolivas6970 It is
Brexit is the cause here
I read an interesting article about the differences between the US and Chinese business economies. One point made was in the US specifically (and the west overall) the economy is designed to help businesses grow and increase profitability. In China, that is secondary to maintaining or improving a strategic national position.
Every decision, every approval, every investment, takes in to account the national interests first.
This used to be a consideration but really started to swing away in the mid to late 80’s.
Thats because all big companies are owned by international investors
west cant compete on labour costs either , maybe that's why they are pushing a similar model to the ccp , wef/great reset for example. National interests first similar I think in Russia which is why they produce things alot cheaper, no money laundering taxpayer coffers which is then fed back through multinet corps and finance hubs so everyone in the long chain gets a slice. Most traded western manufacturing uses chinese labour to some extent also, alot was made on the pandemic and was beneficial to china , though with this latest scheme weapons are likely a diffeernt matter but the materials required are in the hands of non western nations also , expect africa to become of increasing interest to the spreaders of democracy . I gather President T was setting up pharma manufacturing in south American countries like Puerto Rico but which would have cut of the middle men and pulled a few snouts from the troff , think it was abandoned by the caring and democratic with the 'sharp ' leader , also the orange man bad wanted to reject net zero to entice manufacturing back - china also continues to expand its coal plants and cares not for UN pushed legislation so energy costs are significantly lower - everything costs more in the west
I heard a lot of cases/speculation about China's threat, but in reality, this is rarely the case (except the rare-earth ban on Japan in 2010s). But the West actuallt has +10000 sanctions on the rest of the world! They exclude Russia from SWIFT (how is Russia supposed to buy vaccine without access to international banking?). What makes this worse is there is NO direct conflict between Russia and the West, and the West is more than willing to apply such sanction RIGHT AWAY.
@@oceanwave4502 Over half of the world is sanctioned by the US. The problem with sanctions is they are easy to put on my studies show they are hard to remove. So if you are China, who do you fear? The US. So they want to be in everything to make themselves sanction proof. We are creating a competitor because they fear being cut off. The problem now is we have so many sanctions that for many countries it is dangerous to have the US as your supplier. Not to mention targeted sanctions don't work either because even if we sanction certain industries, our banks are too scared to be fined by US regulators so they won't process any transactions to the country whether it involves sanctioned products or not. We've gone crazy with sanctions.
So after the Arab oil embargo in the 1970s, the US established their own strategic oil reserves in case something like a war in the Middle East put America's petroleum needs in jeopardy. (Petroleum goes beyond energy. Nitrogen based fertilizers are produced from petroleum. You can't grow corn with lithium.)
So why doesn't America have a strategic chemistry reserve so the chemicals needed to create medications don't suffer a similar crash?
We actually do have something like that, but only for certain medications. Also, that does nothing about the general consolidation in suppliers for many important drugs. Lastly, drugs expire in a way that petroleum does not, generally after no more than a few years.
Expired medications can be less effective and even harmful. There's a reason why sale, dispensing, and distribution of expired drugs is illegal. That stockpile would require periodic (and very expensive) replenishment.
@@vic5015stockpile them and then hash out the drugs in regular circulation a year before expiration - then replenish the stockpile. It's not nearly as difficult as you're making it seem, and what I just said can be done with each specific medication, to account for different expiration dates.
That said - I've taken expired everything, and never had an issue of any kind.. the only issue is degradation of its efficacy, and most drugs just don't expire to the point where they won't work at all. But, again, this can be avoided entirely.
It comes down to cost vs reward - and they just don't care enough about the average person to put in that kind of effort. The bare minimum is the name of the game in regards to governments.
The US is also fighting for cobalt and lithium to produce electronics by proxy in the Congo against China. Volunteering to build roads, hospitals and train tracks obviously weren't going to be free, the Africans should have considered the risks of being sandwiched between the power struggle of 2 massive countries 😮
@@vic5015 This person knows. And the stockpile is mainly focused on BioWarfare (coz we all love a good war, right!). There's plenty of cipro to deal with an anthrax attack, but nothing for Granny's blood pressure.
@@1PhoenixRising That makes sense. Still, we don't know when or if China could invade Taiwan or how long our country could support them before China pulls the plug.
Not willing to pay more, we don't have a choice when they are needed to keep living...
For Profit should be illegal, if a company is caught price fixing and so on, the Board and CEO should be imprisoned for 10 years, no appeal, no release before full time served.
Self sufficiency is gone. Greed will kill us all.
It only takes the greed of a few to cause the deaths many
Self sufficient nations are a myth. Ask how North Korea and Cuba are doing being self sufficient
That's not to say that we should put the majority of our production in the hands of an ideological enemy
Okay boomer.
@@nnkk7742 ironic 😂 the boomers are the ones with money and prestige.
One aspect rarely considered in western world: without China's products and India's service, western people would soon realize they're not that rich as they think they are.
And all the problems can be traced right back to our FOR PROFIT Healthcare system here in the US
BINGO!
Thank you for telling the truth.
A very large number of those active ingredients also come from India, where there are massive plants as well.
They still get most of the precursors from China
India is heavily depend on china of api
Answered in a word "outsourcing". The drive for lower costs and larger profits.
There's currently a global shortage of certain diabetes medications that does not appear to be related to China. If big pharma can drop the ball on something this important during a normal situation, if there's a geopolitical crisis, a lot of us are going to get ill or die while the pharmaceutical industry ramps up production. 😢
If you are talking about ozempic and those that cause weight loss. That’s a the doctors need to be regulated and not allowed to prescribe meds unless the person has the condition that requires the meds. Doctors do this stuff all the time without proper studies. Another med they love to prescribe for pain is gabapentin. It’s an anti seizure med. not a pain med. the preliminary studies are showing there isn’t much relief for pain. It’s also highly addictive and now docs are going to create the next generation of drug addicts. Just like they did with opioid pain meds.
Honestly being too dependant on any foreign country much less Chian is always a horrible idea.
People already forgot the PPE shortage from China lmao.
I wouldnt say always. EU was build on an idea that if we are dependent on each other we Can not wage wars with each other... And thankfuly France and Germany (and with them half of the continent) did on fight for +- 80 years
The only thing worse would be if we had to rely on Chili.
It was America that imposed sanctions upon China in 2017/18, not the other way around. This was done in a malicious intent to prevent China's apparent advancement in every science & economy sector despite the fact that China's success in no way diminishes anyone else's, America included.
@@andrejmaslo5056individual European countries have very little natural resources. The EU is the only way Europe stays competitive in a world where the little guy can finally start building and owning things for himself. This didn't come out of any enlightened idea of Unity.
Even disruption of friendly supply chains can cause severe problems. One of the drugs I rely on comes from Canada, and during the Covid disruption it wasn't coming to Australia in sufficient quantity to fulfil demand.
if you take into account how less money the actual production cost is in comparison to the shelf price in western countries, it should be no big deal if production cost rises 30%.
I mean look how much you have to pay for insulin in the us and compare it to other countries, even in the EU. But i have a feeling that its more like +30% of shelf pricing...
And if manufacturers don't act fast enough and we get a price crunch, then we a really f in the a.
I’m not really a fan of government overreach but instead of banning TikTok maybe the US government shouldn’t allow US pharmaceutical companies to manufacture drugs in China
Or allow China to invest in a majority share of a company in the US taking the profits and goods when the relationship ultimately tanks.
Trump was trying to get manufacturing moved to south America , but 'they' didn't like that
Wait what stop share holders making money never going to happen with the government basically under the thumb of lobby groups and large corporations pulling the strings.
Why not both?
Why? The pharmaceutical companies lobby the politicians to keep it this way on purpose so they can have insane profits. If they didn’t use China, how would they make all of their money?
Well that’s terrifying.
We are dangerously reliant on China for everything. Since covid struck our local production of almost everything has accelerated beyond recovery for almost every sector. You can't blame the consumer though, Chinese products direct are often less than 1/3 price direct
A large part of that equation is that it is difficult to find Made in the USA products anywhere, let alone some as tightly regulated as medications. The percentage of goods in the American market that are made in China is well over 60%, and if anywhere else besides USA that percentage is closer to 90%. We can change this, but it will take a longtime.
On the plus side as long as any conflict has such obvious economic costs it is less likely to break out.
Since 2023 there's already a shortness of asthma medication in the Netherlands,it's crazy !
This problem is hardly unique to pharmaceuticals... China controls what 80% of the rare earth metal mining/refining. No one else wants to do it cuz its inefficient, messy, environmentally damaging and not financially worthwhile in general, better to let China do it for us and suffer all the consequences and then we can just buy it from them... Problem is, they see us as the enemy and in any major conflict they can just... not sell us rare earth metals... which would destroy basically the entire high tech industry WHICH IS COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON RARE EARTH FUCKING METALS, COMODITIES FOR WHICH CHINA CONTROLS 80% OF THE SUPPLY. Everyone thinks of China as the place that manufacturers cheap low-quality toasters and knock off Nike's, in truth they have their hands in everything and near monopolies on many commodities which are vital to industries around the world. The US Japan and the EU might design the chips that make the world go round, but China mines the raw materials that make the manufacture of those chips possible... What about steel... The US doesn't make steel... we recycle it of course, but we sell iron ore to China, and they actually smelt it and make the steel... This problem is hardly unique to pharmaceuticals...
The problem for China, however, is that if they do indeed shut off the supply of these drugs, they will essentially be signing their death note. Not only would they lose the revenue, but it would undoubtedly cause an equal or more significant reaction from almost every nation in the world. The problem with China being such a manufacturing powerhouse is that you need people and countries to sell all of that product too.
All we have to do to stop the chinese is stop buying their shit.
I try as often as possible to not buy products made in China but it doesn't do much good when most if not all goods contain precursor chemicals or components made in China.
Exactly, the threat of doing it is far more powerful than actually doing it.
There is the whole world out there aside from the G7 consisting of more than 7 billion people. Don't twist it around and make your death knell be China's if they stop supplying your medecines.
Yup. There's a reason their former blast furnace of an economy has been slowing down for a while, now. Chinese labour USED to be cheap simply because they had a massive population they could mobilize and pay peanuts to make cheap crap. But, those people made money, they saved it, and they're now in a position where their labour is more in demand and, thus, more valuable; a reasonable portion of this is due to China's slow demographic collapse because they aren't having enough children on their own and immigration basically doesn't exist, there. With more and more people either aging out of the workforce or emigrating somewhere they can get paid better, that pool of available labour is shrinking steadily.
They're trying to fix the problem by forcing the Uighurs into slavery, but that's only a bandaid solution that's left them in a severely compromised position since slavery is...kinda frowned upon by most people. And, that's only gonna cause those Uighurs that CAN leave to piss off somewhere they won't get sent to a work camp for the high crime of being Muslim.
And, given how ruthlessly profit-focused modern deregulated capitalism is, it makes perfect sense that they'd start finding other places where the cost per person of labour is even lower than in China. Preferably some place most people either don't give a shit about, or at least has better optics. Then, they can slap "Not made with Chinese slave labour, we promise! :D" stickers on their products, ratchet the price up 50%, and laugh as they set briefcases full of money on fire in front of homeless orphans.
And, thus, the cycle will continue. The next country will get a booming economy, raise the local standard of living, causing labour to become more expensive, then the vultures will bugger off to the next country they can exploit in the global race to the bottom. Hooray! :D
I don’t think they intend to cut off supply. They gain more by supplying the products to everyone else. It seems pretty obvious that the Chinese intend to win by growing bigger than their competitors, not by making their competitors smaller.
Reason why alot of medicines stopped working during and since the pandemic.Its better for them to give a placebo than nothing at all money and panic involved.
I have wondered when people would realize this.
A very depressing scenario. As is the manufacturing industry of many products. If all these global companies want to put profit above ethics, then they can’t start throwing their, metaphorical dummies out of their prams, and start making complaints!
Hey, Simon, I'm wondering. You made two videos, one avout the abused child Genie and another with the film Cannibal Holocaust. Weirdly, I can't find the video on your channel. Do you know were I can find it somewhere?
One of my teachers, Dr. Robert Svoboda, is first westerner to have graduated from an Indian university of Ayurveda. Paraphrasing him, modern materialistic and scientific medicine is most effective at treating acute conditions with invasive treatments, e.g. chemo for cancer, surgery, etc. Indigenous or traditional medical systems such as ayurveda or daoist medicine are more likely to suggest lifestyle and herbal treatments that are more likely to promote long-term balance in the organism (a more difficult claim to test) than the relatively immediate and intensive effects of modern medicines. For example, if a modern psychiatrist prescribes an antidepressant, there may be a short-term observable benefit to that drug while the long-term consequences and impact of taking that substance on a daily basis remain unstudied and unknown. By contrast, following a suitable exercise routine and spending more time doing breathing exercises in a forest and adjusting your diet to suit your individual body's needs can take a long time to dial in, but in many cases could be more effective in the long term.
Thank you
Capitalism… that is how… full stop. Greed knows no bounds.
yea the Chinese communist parties capitalism is rampant around the globe
@@martinus4873yes, actually. China is very much a capitalist state, despite the name of the ruling political party. You can literally buy stock in the bank of China. If you seriously think using the name of communism is all it takes to be communist, you understand neither communism nor capitalism.
Capitalism is so bad that people are willing to die to get to capitalist countries. Except for North Koreans, NO ONE takes risks to get into communist countries.
This is a national security problem. We need to find new sources from friendly countries and domestically!
Sure ,if you willing to pay 5 times of the cost there always an alternative. Just don’t complain about the price.
I think China is fighting a different war than the US. They are fighting an economic / political war, while the US is trying to fight a military one. Only time will tell who is fighting the right one.
Checked my daily prescriptions and they’re from the Netherlands and made domestically so hopefully should be ok 🤞
Every government should have a department for disaster Response which just sits down and plans for disaster and buys long lasting resources to be stored
I remember discussions on this years ago. not made in america due to wrong PE ratio or something? Related to brick and mortar going out of style? maybe wall street can figure out a way to use AI to make drug factories in a few days
The western nations have been so short sighted - its baffling.
Well if we didn't then we would just be Dangerously Reliant on India...
Dr. Reddy has you covered always! I assure 👍🏾
India has its issues, but they aren’t colonialists. With reeducation camps.
We'll be happy to do trade with the west. Indians themselves tend to be consumerists and use a lot of Western services/products.
India is a very neutral country without an expansionist agenda.
At least India is a democracy. Not a communist dictatorship. India doesn't threaten its neighbours, and neither does India have a repressive security apparatus. India is a free, democratic nation. Red China is like the DPRK, but with money.
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Wow. I take several generic drugs daily. This makes me rather nervous. I also take a monoclonal antibody treatment for MS, but at least that is manufactured in the US.
if you rely on a drug to survive do what you have to keep a 180 day supply , most times the disruption won't last that long and even if it does the demand for it will drop considerably when people dependant on it that didn't prepare expire .
On today's episode of Things That We've Known For A Long Time Already...
China is always so much cheaper with so many things that companies commit to buying from China. Soon the companies become totally dependent on China. Thereby China then manipulates its dominance to its advantage. We now know that China is looking out for what is in its best interests. They may conflict with Western interests.
@serriajohn Yes in Canada they tax everything. They have taxed away the good life we used to have.
This kind of thing scares me more than the supersonic rockets or 1st island chain of defense stuff.
amazed by the war factories of u.s. how they turned the tides of war. this is saddening.
I knew China was making all the drugs but did I catch that right that now since the Chinese need the same drugs they are starting to be concerned about quality???
Do you know where the narcotics for the drug trade are manufactured? China
FYI the high end of Simon's voice is very sharp. Quite difficult to listen to.
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid the US is when it comes to reliance of foreign countries (especially China) for so many things. How have we not learned??? Sometimes, greed is not good.
We Sardinians are experiencing China's tight grip first hand, they're expropriating our land to build wind farms and solar plants, while at the same time trumping our economy. The excuse? “Increasing the production of renewable energy by 2025”, even though Sardinia isn't allowed to stop using carbon energy plants until 2028. They're using the same tactics they adopt in China: threats, intimidation, massive expropriation and relocation, and sketchy bureaucracy.
@@Thenewbronzeagecollapse So they all of a sudden arrived at your doorstep threatening you, did they? Your government obviously sought to do business with them for some sort of benefit but didn't consider the long term risks
no apostrophe on it's
How much more margin do they mean to increase if they keep reducing the expenses and increasing the price?
Most tentions between China and the "West"... is the USA
Bulk of us in Europe, while we have tentions with China, we are not worried
Really? I don't believe that most politicians in Europe are as comfortable with the situation as you say.
@@DenisR-tt1oeThey are pressured by the US to stand against China. The US sees China as its number one competitor, not so much for Europe.
Worked great with Russian gas.
We should be just as concerned about red China as the US. Personally, I haven't forgotten about 2020
So its F around and find out scenario..
sure are alot of dodgy links between brandon and china/ukrne - pandemics and wars pay well , so does energy . Global elites still have access to the eastern cookie jar , but they use the crisis they create to get rich and push the need for domestic and foreign policy changes that continue to enrich them at the expense of the cnn/bbc viewers that voted them in
I'm waiting for the "Into The Shadows" episode where Simon exposes VPNs as intelligence agencies operations through a series of front companies.
The issue is not a country. The issue is money. If you’re wealthy you can get what you need or want. Which in my opinion is why so called leaders globally don’t want to change anything. They’re good. It’s the poor and middle classes that aren’t good but who cares about them. Keep voting for rich people like they care about you.
Agree 100%. Profit over people - or over the good of the COUNTRY.
not necessarily.. i remember my adult twins birthday a few years back. my dad gave them a few hundred dollars i gave them a pack of toilet paper... they laughed and said i was stupid, i told them to take those hundreds and come back with a pack of toilet tissue.... yeah. when they are out they are out.
It's the same for most synthetic uhh hypolegal pharmaceuticals. Even 'fun' stuff like fent and now the even deadlier nitazenes comes straight from legally registered chinese labs
Isn't the second manufacturer of meds India?
Also, the world did nothing to address the issues raised by a modern pandemic, much less has any plans in place for catastrophes.
Russia has patents for all basics meds like antibiotics and like the 5 basics that the only ones usually needed for anything.
Assuming the government acts in the best interests of it's people, is it better to pass the increased cost to the consumer, or let the corporation making billions take the hit?
Western nations have brought this upon ourselves, big companies chasing profits in a cheaper labour market.
GSK used to get ingredients from a Chinese company called organic herb in the UK in drums with false labels on the outside and unmarked silver foil packets inside of god only knows what inside, I was told it'd be a waste of money to test it prior to use and got to train my Slavic replacement that wouldn't ask questions 4 weeks later
Don't worry the Swiss will save us all as per usual
When will the world come to the simple conclusion that we need each other
the day aliens attack us, not a moment before
I’ve decided that’s why we are all scratching our heads over Gen Z. How in this world did an entire generation get to adulthood without knowing that humans working together is how wonderful things happen
@@williambrennan5701 I'm skeptical that even that will cause us to work together. I feel like there'll be some douchebag or conglomerate or douchebags that will try to screw over the rest of humanity in an alien invasion, in an all too common shortsighted attempt at consolidating their wealth/power. I don't think the threat of extinction is enough to stop sociopaths from being sociopaths
@@evelynmartinez8045 we don't. We did fine before this new globalized economy.
@@jordanhicks5131 no country has everything a modern world needs really right??
The Chinese could just not sell us gunpowder too, since it’s mostly made in China.
This reminds me of the way Europe had become so reliant on importing Russian hydrocarbons for their energy needs by February 2022 that Vladimir Putin was able to blackmail them by threatening to cut off the supply. It was only able to avoid a disaster that winter due to European governments having the political will not to bend to Putin's demands and spending the enormous amount of money required to transition over to the Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) which is available in large quantities from Norway, the United States, and other reliable sources.
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The Free Market shouldn't be unrestricted. Duh.
3, 2, 1 backups are obvious for data. Should be obvious for other things.
An episode on Chinese reliance of food imports
Yep
No corn or flour from the American midwest or Canada? They would starve.
Yup. They will never make enough food domestically to support their population. They already fished their own oceans to death. That's why they constant invade SEA waters. Its literally because they want food security, only make it seem like a show of force to distract from the fact that they will suffer from food shortages.
@@jordanhicks5131 I wonder if they have some alternative food source who will gladly help them out... Hm, who could that be - some country with big territories and developed agriculture... Someone with whom they are friends, I wonder...
@@skforgplus then why aren't they buying from them now? Why do business with he evil west when they can buy from friends?
@@skforgplus but then Russia has to cut someone else off, probably in Africa, to sell the Chinese the immense amount of food imports required. I feel like if the Russians could be supplying their friend with the food instead of the US, it would already be happening
China wouldnt cut off the supply because they would lose the leverage. Similar to europe weening itself off russian energy.
If there's an actual military conflict though which is increasingly likely due to China's increasing rhetoric towards Taiwan and its daily increasing aggression in the South China Sea they would.
@@TheHandgunhero war is a given. Outside of war they wouldn't pull that plug.
medicine or the field of medical research and progress, should NEVER be "for profit".
Do you work for free?
@@Lemmon714_ i live in mississippi, so basically, yes.
so it should be a hobby? A labor of love? Love doesn’t pay the bills or the employees
@@whocares3530 He dreams of a socialist Utopia where money doesn't exist and we all work together. He would be the first to volunteer to be a roofer and clean septic tanks for the good of everyone. Gotta admire that.
Cool story bro. And who will research new medicine? Who will design surgery tools? Who will invent MRIs?
Please get a mic cover, your 'S's are so sharp in the recording it's very harsh sounding
Hate being that guy: ITS (not it"s)
🙄Russia’s gotten around every sanction we put on them… so what’s everyone worried about? 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Who cares as long as a few people get massively rich?
I get the concern, but there’s no way the US government would not react to something where they would do affect these types of chains of goods.
Also, you have to remember that if China does that to the United States, every other country in the world will be hesitant to ever work with them out of fear they will do the same so then maintaining that relationship with United States also maintains the relationship with everybody else
And I’m sorry that if it came to that, I have a belief that the United States would find a way to make those types of chemicals very quickly
Given how much of everything in w west tiwan is faked, i find our over-reliance on their meds quite concerning.
CHYNA!
This is how they learned the secret recipe for fentanyl
Ohhhh if only those files were public. I'm reformed now but I've spoken to people in mainland China brazenly selling fentanyl and synthetic analogs of THC, ketamine, MDMA, amphetamine - and bragging about getting subsidies from the Chinese government.
It was never a secret. Fentanyl was first derived in the 60s. "White china" was fentanyl that appeared in tye 70s. Once a chemical compound is found to have important properties, it's relatively easy for decent chemist to reverse enguneer
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo enguneer hurrdurr
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo No youre wrong. It was secret. I bet you dont even have a college degree like me.
None of this surprises me in he least. Greed is one thing the US never needs to import.
It’s not just the US though.
We are entirely to reliant on China for everything.
Huzzah for the many and varied near peer contests! When can we call it Cold War 2.0?
Last year the US try to replace Chinese pharm with Indian pharm, killed 3 people
Only 3?
So we haven't learnt our lesson after the circus of 2020. We are way to dependent on red China for way too much. Red China is most likely to become an adversary in the future. We really find alternative sources for our needs. Putting our bets on red China really is a bad idea.
China is only producing (relatively) low-value compounds. We were able to outsource the precursors so quickly because the processes are simple to set up. Repatriation will be rapid once there is a financial incentive.
I saw something a year or two ago about the us moving it to isreal because they already have a good set up there
Bharati generics got back. Now pop off Tiny Tim Teetotaler…and go fetch some crumpets for the queen.
This is just an exaggeration, first the west and china are both dependent on each other, secondly history has it that US likes to use economic hegemony against countries that don't share the same idiologies as them while china doesn't necessarily associates politics with trade so if there is a government to worry is maybe 😏 china, china should de-risk or decouple from the west
While this is a dangerous place to be in and threats can be made, this IS a double edged sword. You can cut off your customers, but then who pays you if you do? In other areas of manufacturing, there has been a slow exodus since covid which had left some Chinese suppliers scrambling for orders and some shops closing down. Their economy is not in the best place and cutting off medical supplies would not make it any better. That said, dumb people do dumb things and maybe Xi, like Putin, has a few dumb mistakes and miscalculations up his sleeve.
Be alright just switch companies that make drugs for animals to making drugs for people
We trust China with pharmaceuticals, recording equipment and even airline parts… yet they have the worst security reputation in the world.. we’re living in weird times 😂😂
Time to fire the copy editor 😝 *its*
The United States can make all those pharmaceuticals here....
Or hear me out... Peace with China?
two nation states with egos and arrogant pride too big to be contained by their own borders? making peace with each other? you sure about that?
Is it just me or is his audio weird??
"Even though I believe we should promote Chinese medicine, I personally do not believe in it. I don't take Chinese medicine."
-- Mao Zedong
China makes the cheap test, dbol, deca, and tren raws, which my local UGL uses to manufacture my "supplements".
I ain't gonna kick the hornets nest.
First, I agree with the basic premise that too much reliance on China for various products is risky. I agree many companies have hooked their wagons to suppliers from a country that has unfettered government control over those suppliers. However, this content’s premise and repeated insinuations that China has complete control over pharmaceutical production is beyond exaggeration, and is riddled with misleading script. Additionally, the content mixes “precursors” with “active ingredients,” using both in multiple instances interchangeably when they are not necessarily the same chemical.
To my point of misleading script, past 3:30, “only a few companies are in total control of every step involved in the production of each drug” which is said following reference to China’s 40% of global production and fails to identify the “few” companies controlling “every step.” As stated, those few companies could be Norwegian. And since multiple references are made to either precursors or active ingredients, which are both subsets of the entirety of steps to the final pharmaceutical, contradicts the claim of “every step.” There are more instances, but such a waste of time to list.
The annoying heartbeat that seeps in later reminds me of a thriller movie soundtrack…pitiful for an informative intent. Who writes this drivel for you Simon?
Even offshoring to India is problematic, what’s to stop India becoming similarly antagonistic toward the West in the future?
Their mutual hatred of China
India already is antagonistic towards the West over its relationship with Russia.
@serriajohn it's a forever enemy. Their fight over a glacier has proved that. They beat each other to death in giant stick fights in the mountains.
That's an enemy, and not due to national interest.
Don't be foolish
Its not it’s