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  • @jonahs.757
    @jonahs.757 Рік тому +1637

    Side note: Imagine being the guy who boiled a vat of piss until it started to glow? He must have been like "Yoooooooo whuut?"

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd Рік тому +161

      Hated by his neighbors and still no gold.

    • @jonahs.757
      @jonahs.757 Рік тому +27

      @@MetalheadAndNerd Damn

    • @kdkorz10211
      @kdkorz10211 Рік тому +43

      Thanks, you two. I needed that bit of levity after this one!

    • @KlodFather
      @KlodFather Рік тому

      @@MetalheadAndNerd - Aged containers of urine poured over wood ashes makes some of the components of gun powder... so it does not surprise me that urine extracts can be used for many things. Urea is part of insulation(that burns like hell) and is also made into a strong concentrated liquid injected into diesel exhaust to eliminate nitrogen compounds. Better living through chemistry. Scary shit.

    • @18Hongo
      @18Hongo 11 місяців тому +75

      "Yooooooo whut?" Pretty much sums up most scientific research in the Middle ages.

  • @Jimtheneals
    @Jimtheneals Рік тому +426

    The 70's TV show mash did an episode where a soldier had W.P. in a leg wound and to get them out they submerged him in water and turned off the lights to see them and remove them from his leg. Until now I didn't realize how accurate that was.

    • @Chris-hx3om
      @Chris-hx3om Рік тому +67

      There was a lot of things in M*A*S*H* that were quite factually accurate.

    • @johnschmitt5259
      @johnschmitt5259 Рік тому +48

      That was a really great show. Especially compared to the mind numbing crap on tv now.

    • @davidcox3076
      @davidcox3076 Рік тому +26

      I remember that episode. Even as a kid I knew who Mr. William Peter was. It was a very accurate portrayal of trying to treat the soldier.

    • @CrankyQuokka
      @CrankyQuokka Рік тому +20

      Was looking for exactly this comment. I've never forgotten that episode, along with others. M*A*S*H was an incredible show.

    • @Jimtheneals
      @Jimtheneals Рік тому +18

      @@CrankyQuokka It was, and I know they had a medical consultant but HOW accurate it was, was incredible.

  • @banana_milkshake3750
    @banana_milkshake3750 10 місяців тому +172

    I'm from Lithuania. For those that don't know where it is - we border the Baltic Sea. A sea that countries like Finland, Denmark, Russia, Sweden and Germany also have borders with. Right after WW2 ended, the soviet union didn't know where to throw their overwhelming stockpile of chemical weapons, so they dumped them right in the Baltic sea. Of course, as time went on the bombs started to rust, decay and release whatever was inside out into the water. Another thing you might need to know - we Lithuanians love amber. We have a whole museum here for it, and every year amber jewellery is sold basically everywhere. Another not so fun fact is that Amber is almost undistinguishable from White Phosphorus. Now the WP is consistently washing up on our shores along with amber, that people collect and put in their pockets, hold in their hands etc. Every year we have victims of the stuff setting on fire in their pockets or hands etc. I don't know if we've had people die from it yet, but I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @ShannonSouthAfrica
      @ShannonSouthAfrica 7 місяців тому +1

      That's hectic

    • @sleep_deprived_stormworker
      @sleep_deprived_stormworker 6 місяців тому +8

      russia moment

    • @VuldGarsk
      @VuldGarsk 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@sleep_deprived_stormworkerThese were captured German chemical weapons that were to be buried as a result of the Potsdam Conference, the USA and Great Britain also scuttled their part, so this is not only a “russia moment”

    • @Adam-if3zd
      @Adam-if3zd Місяць тому +1

      Does it wash up on the beeches at nida

    • @CloudParadox-is1jc
      @CloudParadox-is1jc 16 днів тому

      Jesus Christ.. that's good to know

  • @Ryuus1
    @Ryuus1 Рік тому +470

    Back in 2008 I was in Iraq and was the first Medic on scene for an IED strike. Little did I know at the time it was four 155 rounds (tank rounds) with White Phosphorus that the Hummv drove over. I tried everything to put our guys out. Used all of the water, burn blankets, Fire extinguishers, it wasn't until we buried them that the fire went out.

    • @todydn
      @todydn Рік тому +55

      Fuck dude ive read alot of comments but yours hits me in the nuts could serve but i try to understand for the vets in my family above and below the ground also since schools dont teach thus shit and the rest of my family are odly unpatriotic i have to teach the kids my daughter and my nephews about all this my cousin was a ranger on a striker team and i thought hed seen some messed up shit it took him years to say anything about it and im the only one that knows i did alot of damage to my liver and had to fight him to prevent a suicide attempt to get him to unload that shit im glad your open about it thats the hardest part thank you and your brothers in arms for your sacrifices and welcome home if you didnt get to hear it when you got back

    • @Ryuus1
      @Ryuus1 Рік тому +47

      @todydn it takes a lot to deal with it every day. I love the days I don't think about it, but I still have triggers. I find that at least telling others about it helps to prepare them for possible situations overseas. WP wasn't even on my mind at the time because no one talked about it. I look back on that day and try to focus on the guy I saved, and was able to get a medevac for.

    • @todydn
      @todydn Рік тому +19

      @@Ryuus1 dude thats hero shit dont let anyone or anything make you feel different my pops may he rip was a vietnam vet force recon marine im only here today as i was born in 94 because a medic and the boys of the soar flew in against orders to get him and his guys out my buggest goal is to do something impactful for the vets for now as im disabled trying to get back to work i just try to keep my cousin alive and stuff like this gives me lots of motivation to get better so i can make a change if i can the marines wouldnt have me but they cant stop me from helping lol

    • @todydn
      @todydn Рік тому +4

      @@Ryuus1 also i bet his family is realy greatful do you have contact with him by chance

    • @Ryuus1
      @Ryuus1 Рік тому +10

      @@todydn no, he wasn't from my unit. So all I had was his last name

  • @nickzigrang2664
    @nickzigrang2664 Рік тому +572

    About 25 years ago, our school had a vet (WW2 or Vietnam, don't remember) come in & talk. He said something about phosphorus grenades (IIRC). Immediately teary eyed, voice crumbled; you could tell it still haunted him. Honestly felt bad for the guy for what he experienced, not to mention what those around him endured

    • @joedavidson6556
      @joedavidson6556 Рік тому +13

      I kno they had Willy Pete’s in Vietnam. Unsure about WW2 but I thought they had them as well.

    • @ATruckCampbell
      @ATruckCampbell Рік тому +23

      @@joedavidson6556 It was used in WW2. You can also see it used in FURY, where at one point a German soldier comes running out of a building with WP burning through him.

    • @joedavidson6556
      @joedavidson6556 Рік тому +2

      @@ATruckCampbell Yea I thought so but I wasn’t 100% sure on that.

    • @tonymerrell
      @tonymerrell Рік тому +19

      I remember having a Vietnam vet come to our school too to talk about this. He said that he was hit with WP and tried getting in the river but was still on fire so they used mud and sand, packed in his wounds. He said when they got to the hospital and started cutting him open he burst into flames on the OR table. One of the worst things I remember about people coming to the school. The other was a very, very disgusting "movie" about drugs and their effects. To this day I don't like the song "Lean On Me".

    • @johnkacin1500
      @johnkacin1500 Рік тому +13

      white phosphorus shells. They would use it during night attacks.. I'm not going to redescribe what he told me but its horrific.

  • @jaytaylor629
    @jaytaylor629 Рік тому +1312

    That story of Razia is one of the worst and terrifying, gruesome things I have ever heard. That is honestly so sad that she and her family had to endure such horror.

    • @seanlanglois8620
      @seanlanglois8620 Рік тому +24

      Do they have a donation page

    • @Loralanthalas
      @Loralanthalas Рік тому

      That's US and Isreal who did that? I listen to a lot of true crime. But I. Wow. I guess I typically listen to just Luke murders and serial killers versus country.
      Fucking is it normal to burn kids up and shoot and first aid trying to help? I don't see that shit in any war hero action figure movie?

    • @TheManLab7
      @TheManLab7 Рік тому +51

      War is hell and it's always the general population that suffers the most.

    • @shiannecostello6228
      @shiannecostello6228 Рік тому +70

      Not a lot of things make me queezy, or get under my skin. I like learning about this stuff, because they don't teach the horrors of war in the US. They don't teach that we're sometimes the bad guys. But unless we make a change and start to teach our children about these monstrous actions, they will just continue. I know it will never be perfect, but god damn. I just don't understand how people can see this happen and not feel any guilt or sympathy. I know war does intense things to peoples minds, but this is why it needs to stop. God. My heart hurts so badly for her. I had my second child a year ago, and I just can't. I can't imagine that pain. I don't want to.

    • @danielwolf6875
      @danielwolf6875 Рік тому +5

      same.... 😔

  • @jrmckim
    @jrmckim Рік тому +570

    In nursing school, I wrote a paper on phossy jaw (Phosphorus Necrosis of the Jaw) and learned about sequestrum. That's when an area of bone dies and breaks off becoming loose inside the tissue. It gave me nightmares for a few nights.

    • @Allen667sjja
      @Allen667sjja Рік тому +2

      I’ve seen a man whose balls were the size of a bowling ball because his intensities poked through the abdominal wall somehow into there

    • @awsumaustin7650
      @awsumaustin7650 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Allen667sjjawhy have you seen This?

    • @MrFuzzyGreen
      @MrFuzzyGreen Рік тому +81

      Medical care involves a certain amount of dispassionate necessity when dealing with the live and cognisant jumble of meat that is us. . And at the same time is an extreme amount of compassionate empathy to be able to push through and give care and solace at it's most immediate point of need. Not everyone can remove themselves entirely from the extreme horrors that may face you then but bless their bravery for doing it anyway. These are the people that prove we as a species are still worth believing in.

    • @Buglife.352
      @Buglife.352 Рік тому +14

      @@MrFuzzyGreenwell said

    • @Aaron-zu3xn
      @Aaron-zu3xn Рік тому

      a fire that can't be put out because it re-ignites later then when you finally figure out how to stop the fire you still die because it absorbs thru your skin/lungs(as vapor) and replaces all the calcium in your bones so they glow in the dark as little as 55 mg can be fatal

  • @DanSoloha
    @DanSoloha 10 місяців тому +437

    The fact that the use of this terrifying chemical isn’t a war crime is honestly almost mind boggling

    • @hellspyro666420
      @hellspyro666420 9 місяців тому

      The irony of using tear gas is a war crime but not this. Also tear gas is allowed to be used against American citizens but not active war combatants

    • @Fightre_Flighte
      @Fightre_Flighte 9 місяців тому +12

      Some could argue it's literally mind boggling.

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase 9 місяців тому +17

      @@Fightre_Flightedefinitely boggling my mind, but then again, whos enforcing war crimes???

    • @WowUrFcknHxC
      @WowUrFcknHxC 8 місяців тому +33

      When used in populated areas, shot at civilians, or intended to cause burns or toxicity, it is a war crime. The only legal way to use it is as a smokescreen

    • @Fightre_Flighte
      @Fightre_Flighte 8 місяців тому +3

      @@junyaiwase
      The rest of the world, arguably...
      It's boggling your mind? Did the U.S. put up a "tactical smoke screen" in your AO?

  • @midwestchem368
    @midwestchem368 Рік тому +320

    The white smoke from white phosphorus is actually fine particulate of a substance called phosphorus pentoxide. This stuff is incredible as it can rip water out of lots of chemicals. It can even rip water out of sulfuric acid to make sulfur trioxide. It does this and makes phosphoric acid. Needless to say that smoke is also horrifying as well but in its own way.

    • @jerrywatt6813
      @jerrywatt6813 11 місяців тому +11

      Well that's reassuring!!😊

    • @Acavando
      @Acavando 11 місяців тому +7

      Never thought about what the smoke was. Talk about useful

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 10 місяців тому +6

      Yup it makes an awesome smoke screen, one that is effective against most thermal imaging systems as well. It isn't good to inhale or have eyes exposed to for obvious reasons though. 😮

    • @phils4634
      @phils4634 10 місяців тому +1

      If you want to keep tour products REALLY dry, P2O5 has always been the "go-to" desiccant. Remarkably unpleasant stuff though, and you always place it on a Teflon or ceramic watch glass, since when hydrated, the resulting phosphoric acid is VERY corrosive.

    • @midwestchem368
      @midwestchem368 10 місяців тому

      @@phils4634 is it really good? I know it's a strong dehydrating agent but doesn't it sort of get passivated by a layer of h3po4?

  • @QueenofTNT
    @QueenofTNT 11 місяців тому +173

    The timing of this video is terrifyingly coincidental. Thank you for giving a clear, brutal description of the effects of WP.

    • @NexusAkayuki
      @NexusAkayuki 10 місяців тому +16

      I do not think the timing of the video is coincidental at all, honestly.

    • @Svensk7119
      @Svensk7119 10 місяців тому +12

      I wondered about that myself.
      But two months is more time than the current events in Israel.

    • @alainsaaiman4975
      @alainsaaiman4975 10 місяців тому

      Israel uses something else, it looks like white phoshorous when deployed.

    • @darrellb6583
      @darrellb6583 10 місяців тому +4

      I thought the same thing..

    • @johnhopkins5712
      @johnhopkins5712 9 місяців тому

      Not at all coincidental. A pro-Hamas, anti-Israel production.
      Unfortunately, I am finished with this channel.

  • @2255223388
    @2255223388 Рік тому +146

    SCIENTISTS IN THE 1600's: "I want to turn metal into gold.... I know, I'll boil my piss"

  • @joshuahoover6841
    @joshuahoover6841 Рік тому +222

    Long time ago I was at a convention and a Marine who suffered phosphorus burns in Vietnam gave a speech. The pain he endured was horrifying.

    • @MrShysterme
      @MrShysterme Рік тому +13

      I think I saw the same guy talk over 30 years ago
      Did he make a joke about taking off his prosthetic ear and playing the piano with it “by ear”?
      Not making a bad joke, I really remember that…he mixed in humor in his talk
      The man I saw wore a dark wig, heavy set, and his face was burned

    • @joshuahoover6841
      @joshuahoover6841 Рік тому +12

      @@MrShysterme it was in 98 if memory serves. He may have made a joke like that; he was remarkably positive all things considered, but I only remember him being in his Marine blues. From what I recall, I believe he was bald

    • @joshuahoover6841
      @joshuahoover6841 Рік тому +8

      I wouldn't say fat but yes he was more on the heavyset side and yes sadly, badly burned.

    • @stevesestrich5143
      @stevesestrich5143 10 місяців тому

      And now Israel is dropping it on women and children in Gaza.

  • @GodsServant52
    @GodsServant52 Рік тому +232

    It's not death, it's the time it takes to die.

    • @halfsourlizard9319
      @halfsourlizard9319 Рік тому +12

      Death always takes a lifetime.

    • @GodsServant52
      @GodsServant52 Рік тому +5

      touche...(imagine snotty accent)

    • @hung8969
      @hung8969 Рік тому +15

      I’ve had a near death experience on a jet ski. Uncle died, cousin lost an eye and I was unconscious under water for 2 mins before coming up. All I can say is. Death is very very welcomed when suffering has reached a stand point. Such as trying to hold your breath. Felt like the gravity of earth forced my mouth open and lungs to suck water in. As going, all I thought was “f*ck I’m dying here, right now.” Slight panic then comfortability.

    • @GiveMeaFuckingBreakDude
      @GiveMeaFuckingBreakDude Рік тому

      I wash my balls with it everyday .

    • @mho...
      @mho... 11 місяців тому +4

      just like you can jump from any height, it will *NEVER* kill you!
      only the landing might be tricky!

  • @bandit5875
    @bandit5875 8 місяців тому +62

    My grandpa got a WP or napalm burn on his calf in Vietnam during a firefight (he just remembers it sticking), and had to shove his leg into the mud to prevent it from burning off. He got out of Vietnam with 7 wounds, 4 of which were gunshots, 1 burn, and 2 shrapnel impacts. He walked with a very slight, almost unnoticeable limp, afterwards. He told my brother and I that he had “done enough fighting for 10 generations”, and didn’t want anyone in our family signing up to go to war.
    He endured some of the horrors of WP, seeing child soldiers set on fire after grenades were launched into the trees, smoldering adolescent corpses, burnt women and even male combatants torched by the flame.
    It’s been years since he passed, but here’s a paraphrased quote from the late Sergeant Major.
    “They looked like zombies, as they stumbled, and burnt with the relentlessness of a prank candle. The sparks coming off their bodies reminded me of fireworks. With that .30, I chopped them down as they emerged from the bush, putting many out of their misery. Hearing someone scream as their lungs bubbled up, seeing the bloody foam shoot from their mouth as the agony continued will haunt me forever, and I can only pray that another draft never happens for you boys.”
    He volunteered to sign up at 16 or 17, illegally. He spent his entire life making up for the sins he committed and atrocities he witnessed in Vietnam.
    I hope his soul got the rest he deserved, because no one should face such horrors.

    • @natcalverley4344
      @natcalverley4344 2 місяці тому +5

      May he rest peacefully.

    • @s.alpinus8395
      @s.alpinus8395 Місяць тому +1

      It's good he understood what he had been a part of. So, so many Americans just go "thank them for their service", when in fact those soldiers have been invading forces killing civilians en masse.
      Korea, Vietnam, Iraq - all illegitimate invasions or proxy wars.

  • @frankproductions14
    @frankproductions14 Рік тому +53

    I studied white phosphorus to put it into my dungeons and dragons game. I described what it was doing to people as a result of a terrorist attack in the game and my players said it was the most disturbing thing they could recall ever hearing.

    • @Ice-yp4wg
      @Ice-yp4wg 8 місяців тому +8

      that must've been one *hell* of a dnd session

    • @pineappleman7914
      @pineappleman7914 8 місяців тому +16

      What kinds of dnd were you playing
      The 2008 Iraq War dnd campaign 😂

  • @TheBorderRyker
    @TheBorderRyker Рік тому +399

    Every soldier knows and fears white phos! It really is the stuff of nightmares.

    • @TheBorderRyker
      @TheBorderRyker Рік тому +7

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket yeah but Marines are a different breed altogether. 🪖😉

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd Рік тому +42

      @billythekid9061 That's the difference between the ones shooting it and the ones receiving it.

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 Рік тому +3

      ​@@MetalheadAndNerdNow technically you can't fire WP munitions into people or structures people are in. But...most smoke generation devices contain some amount of white phosphorus. So concentrated smoke grenade byproduct is quite toxic.

    • @dxruling
      @dxruling Рік тому +4

      Civilian victims: amateurs

    • @theythinkimmadyouknow
      @theythinkimmadyouknow Рік тому

      So shooting it into civilian areas is a clear war crime!

  • @RavenFilms
    @RavenFilms Рік тому +146

    Dead god! This is horrific! I’ve been a first responder for years, not much can make me squirm, but the description of the baby and then the child sure did. (Not even because they were kids, but of the actual description!)

    • @Silentgrace11
      @Silentgrace11 Рік тому +9

      @billythekid the difference being one is still legalized for militant use because of a cruel loophole

    • @Bluesit32
      @Bluesit32 Рік тому

      @@Silentgrace11 Agent orange is like radiation. It's the "gift" that keeps on giving. It just doesn't leave the body. And given the rate of miscarriages and birth defects, it can pass on to the child. Even if it seems perfectly healthy, they probably have a high risk of cancer.

    • @TheRandompaint
      @TheRandompaint 4 місяці тому

      Is it true though?

  • @wander_boi69
    @wander_boi69 Рік тому +396

    First time I'd heard of white phosphorous was in Spec Ops: The Line and the sequence is very haunting and very much embedded in my mind that it was a war crime level substance. Kinda effed up to find out its use isn't even a war crime and that it's still being regularly used by militaries in ways that affect and burn civilians, and frankly some of those stories told in this will probably haunt me every time its name comes up.

    • @mcgibs
      @mcgibs Рік тому +51

      The fucked thing is, those people in the game GOT OFF EASY. They just burned up right then and there, and didn't have to live in agony for days on end until death.

    • @highlow1212
      @highlow1212 Рік тому

      i was aviation we know all a about white phos
      flachettes are nasty too they are covered in anti coagulant so people that get tagged bleed out quick

    • @ThaGVPSon
      @ThaGVPSon Рік тому +4

      ​@mcgibs theyd probably feel fine with iv oxycodone or fentanyl even with the burns

    • @nameunknown2510
      @nameunknown2510 Рік тому +7

      Same doing that level stayed with me

    • @zsaz4453
      @zsaz4453 Рік тому +19

      I hated me after that game

  • @gageballard6906
    @gageballard6906 11 місяців тому +116

    The fact that this stuff isn’t a war crime, will never be lost on me.

    • @georgemacdonell2341
      @georgemacdonell2341 10 місяців тому +5

      But you never forget how it broke up the attack and saved your ass and the platoons...willypeet. wanna talk about napalm strikes from the perspective of troops that needed them? Next time maybe, out.

    • @JackFrost008
      @JackFrost008 10 місяців тому

      you clearly do not understand how evil white phosphorous is then do you @@georgemacdonell2341

    • @CursedCommentaries
      @CursedCommentaries 6 місяців тому +5

      Who is geneva to tell the world how to fight a war?

    • @oliverearnshaw6189
      @oliverearnshaw6189 6 місяців тому

      It is a war crime to use white phosphorus in built up urban areas

    • @simonlhill-si4sx
      @simonlhill-si4sx 5 місяців тому +4

      History is determined by the victors

  • @MariU9
    @MariU9 10 місяців тому +44

    It's almost eerie how this was posted exactly a month before it would become extremely relevant.

    • @aparametric
      @aparametric 9 місяців тому +20

      Yes, very eerie. So sad to think of the Gazans that are being subjected to it right now 😥

  • @TheGriffon
    @TheGriffon Рік тому +77

    Phosphorus Grenades were issued to us in Vietnam. I saw what the outcome of using them was. I had to cut a slab of meat off my buddy’s left arm when he got splashed by it. Of all the Horrific things I saw in Three Tours, WP and some Booby Traps gave me the Horrors. WP has to be the nastiest thing ever issued and Deployed in Warfare. It is still available in Grenades to this day! WHY?

    • @shihtzu291
      @shihtzu291 11 місяців тому +4

      Sorry to hear that I can imagine something like that can stay with you for a long time. Personally I think White Phosphorus should be a band munition as I'd say that tenically it's a chemical weapon. They were use in Afghanistan but I never witnessed us ever using them. 🇬🇧

    • @andrebartels1690
      @andrebartels1690 11 місяців тому +2

      I'm sorry to hear you had so grim experiences. I hope you can find peace in your life.

    • @phrenologisto
      @phrenologisto 10 місяців тому +3

      I think you tragically answered your own question

    • @xtnuser5338
      @xtnuser5338 10 місяців тому

      I'll tell you why. Because we humans are animals that do terrible, horrible things to each other. People who imagine some future utopia wherein there is never any war are delusional. There will always be war, and people will always try to win no matter the cost. Human decency is a, "first world problem," so to speak. As soon as we're fighting for our lives, it is forgotten about.

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 8 місяців тому

      Because politician are almost without question, sadistic psychopaths. Its a miracle the concept of a war crime exists at all. Since our leaders enjoy inflicting suffering.

  • @haldorasgirson9463
    @haldorasgirson9463 Рік тому +154

    Burn debridement is one of the most painful medical treatments people can undergo. And it leaves extensive open wounds that are easily infected. What a horror show.

    • @FYMASMD
      @FYMASMD Рік тому +1

      Except to wound care nurses.
      It’s to grim for me to do.😬

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 Рік тому +4

      @@FYMASMD I'm not sure this truly stops at just being a burn. The toxicity is also a thing to compete with.

    • @terryrose6208
      @terryrose6208 Рік тому +8

      Went through burn debridement for a week without pain medication. When I complained a little, the male nurse said that some people just couldn't endure a little pain.

    • @mho...
      @mho... 11 місяців тому

      exactly why military loves fire weapons.... 🙄

    • @JackFrost008
      @JackFrost008 10 місяців тому

      "treatment"...

  • @ClassicRiki
    @ClassicRiki Рік тому +22

    The irony of using it as a smokescreen is itself a smokescreen to allow its use.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure Рік тому +1

      Well, no, because it's literally used as a smoke screen.

    • @mvmusic8467
      @mvmusic8467 7 місяців тому

      @@InitialFailureYeah sure, its definitely only used as a “smokescreen”….. talk about gullible.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure 7 місяців тому

      @@mvmusic8467 yea cause I used the word "only" in my comment.
      Talk about looking for a reason to be outraged.

  • @beornthebear.8220
    @beornthebear.8220 9 місяців тому +21

    I saw a US vet that had hit in Vietnam by one of these grenades. He dove into water, but every time he came back up he would reignite. It's amazing he survived.

  • @Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    @Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 25 днів тому +4

    And now Israel is using this thing againts Palestinians

  • @BigMobe
    @BigMobe Рік тому +135

    It's only a war crime if you lose the war.

    • @chickensalad3535
      @chickensalad3535 Рік тому +16

      The unfortunate truth.

    • @mikewarpula911
      @mikewarpula911 Рік тому +4

      Yes some armys,and countrys are Teflon no charges ever stick

    • @BigMobe
      @BigMobe Рік тому +12

      @@mikewarpula911 Pretty much the ones with nukes.

    • @amb1u5
      @amb1u5 Рік тому +4

      ​@BigMobe pretty much anyone attached to the us/nato, anyone remember when nato bombed civilians? Don't hear too much about that...

    • @SlapShotTakes
      @SlapShotTakes Рік тому

      Are we talking about when they stopped a genocide? And fought against combatants not only hiding in civilian areas but also using indiscriminate munitions?

  • @timothymcchickenburger4385
    @timothymcchickenburger4385 Рік тому +152

    My old therapist served in the Falkland Wars, I remember him telling me that in training they were taught how to use a knife to dig out chunks of White Phosphorus from their flesh, as of course if some is left in it can reignite when the medics are trying to fix you up. Disgusting stuff.

    • @mcalax5901
      @mcalax5901 Рік тому

      You have just repeated what was stated in the video.
      Why?
      UA-cam really is the home of idiocy.

    • @marconius101
      @marconius101 Рік тому

      in the Army they gave us small pieces of bandage wit copper sulfate (1995) to extinguish the phosphorus. but you could not use more than 1dm2 otherwise you died of that. But if you see once how it looks when only one phosphorus grenade explodes, you know it was all bullshit...

    • @Blargaha
      @Blargaha Рік тому +9

      @@mcalax5901 because he might have written it before it was stated?

    • @timothymcchickenburger4385
      @timothymcchickenburger4385 11 місяців тому +12

      ​@@mcalax5901 People say stupider shit all the time, relax dude.

  • @LuciusTheBat
    @LuciusTheBat Рік тому +85

    I first learned about White Phosphorus in Spec Ops: The Line. Used it to bomb soldiers only then to discover you killed civilians

    • @6767anton
      @6767anton Рік тому

      Same. That game is fucked

    • @finncatwillhelm2457
      @finncatwillhelm2457 Рік тому +18

      There is an Easter egg on the screen when you use it, the character is smiling like a madman in the reflection.

    • @outpost206
      @outpost206 Рік тому +10

      That game had me shook like no other game before it or since. Just a really, really powerful game.

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt Рік тому +11

      That part in that game haunts me to this day.

    • @hainleysimpson1507
      @hainleysimpson1507 Рік тому

      That’s military service in powerful nations these days. Fuck you and follow orders.

  • @duffman638
    @duffman638 Рік тому +63

    When I was in the Air Force my first duty location was at Davis Monthan AFB in Tucson, AZ. There I was a weapons loader and weapons systems maintenance for the A-10 Warthog. We loaded lots and lots of white phosphorus rockets. Anytime we were loading white phosphorus rockets the ammo trailer, trailer that would bring us bombs, rockets, and other munitions, would have a large ammo can full of water on the front of the trailer for us to submerge our arms in if any got onto us. We were also told to keep them submerged and use the knife in our tool boxes to dig it out of the affected arm and/or other body parts. Making 100% sure not to remove the body part from the water till A. we get to the hospital or B. you are 100% certain you got everything off.

    • @bruce5579
      @bruce5579 Рік тому +6

      Same here. And wasn’t WP used in the fuses in Napalm bombs if I remember correctly. USAF MMS 77-81☮️

    • @chillnspace777
      @chillnspace777 11 місяців тому +1

      Holy crap

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 10 місяців тому +2

      This gets the yikes award. 😮 the first step is smothering and digging bulk wp out. The next step is chemical removal, iodine works great for this. Makes HI dnd phosphoric acid that can be washed away. ❤

  • @jdosser
    @jdosser Рік тому +21

    I read about a story in WW2 during Operation Overlord, when a British soldier became trapped in barred wire following a German ambush. During the ambush, the soldier had a White Phosphorus Grenade hanging on his field webbing. A bullet from a German machine gun hit the grenade, setting it off and causing the soldier to burn from the grenade while trapped in the wire. His surviving squadies swore off carrying Phosphorus grenades in their own webbings after seeing this.

  • @metlyze7124
    @metlyze7124 Рік тому +37

    "Do you feel like a hero yet?"

    • @Bluesit32
      @Bluesit32 Рік тому +2

      It's Konrad's fault. All of it.

  • @tommiefunk2099
    @tommiefunk2099 Рік тому +29

    The "Into the Shadows" and "Warographics" crossover I always wanted.

  • @styxzero1675
    @styxzero1675 Рік тому +108

    The story about Razia really made me tear up, that is horrible. How cruel is humanity...

    • @NIL0S
      @NIL0S Рік тому +7

      You're not alone, but please remember this is possibly one of the worst examples. It has nothing to do with humanity. It's an inhumane weapon.

    • @HIFLY01
      @HIFLY01 Рік тому +27

      Notice the country that did it. They're really not humane to anyone if you look into it

    • @griffinmckenzie7203
      @griffinmckenzie7203 Рік тому +10

      ​@@HIFLY01No nation in that portion of the earth is civil or humane.

    • @johanahonen8627
      @johanahonen8627 Рік тому

      ​@@HIFLY01what Israel is doing to Palestine is truly horrible, and a large part of the world (the us) is cheering them on

    • @Yadid1
      @Yadid1 Рік тому +8

      ​@@griffinmckenzie7203"bOtH SiDeS"

  • @think1st363
    @think1st363 11 місяців тому +6

    Curious that the “victims” are the ones employing this chemical the most, and will continue to do so in Gaza and Iran

  • @Richabralack
    @Richabralack 3 місяці тому +11

    I'm so glad you discussed the horrors in Gaza. It's shocking to think how much worse things have gotten in the 9 months since this video was published.

  • @nyxspiritsong5557
    @nyxspiritsong5557 Рік тому +36

    Idk how as a parent you can watch your child suffer that much. (Referring to the story of Razia)
    Honestly at that point i think death would be more merciful. God forgive me but that's how i feel after listening to what she went thru. That sounded like h'll for both her and her father. I hope she's doing OK....

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 Рік тому +5

      Each one of us has to draw a line... define a point at which we'd be so damaged and incapable of healing that to go on would be cruelty, itself. At that point, or beyond it, then death is the kinder fate. It sucks, but it's life and death literally... AND there are fates worse than dying. ;o)

    • @kev-larscuba2323
      @kev-larscuba2323 Рік тому

      I understand your sentiment, but I doubt Razia‘s parents felt the same way as most of them would be deeply religious in her area, and they would truly and completely consider it. God‘s will, whether their children lived or died.. having this level of faith is certainly a legendary and the perceived placebo power of belief can, and does perform miracles. In this case, life found a way when all of the odds were against life itself-- this is exactly what war really looks like.
      Stay safe and blessed out there in the world 🌎 ❤

    • @sabre22b
      @sabre22b Рік тому +3

      It wouldn't be the first time allegedly that a medic gave too much morphine. Allegedly. Some suffering is just too great.

    • @nathanjohnson2932
      @nathanjohnson2932 Рік тому +2

      Agreed. . That toeture would be relived daily.... death wpuld be far more merciful.

  • @xVMouseVx
    @xVMouseVx Рік тому +53

    everyone and their mom knows what wp is and what is really used for
    the fact that its use is not banned shows that those in power dont care about foreign civilians its only until they themselves feel the effects for such a weapon will they change their minds

  • @atrumluminarium
    @atrumluminarium Рік тому +79

    It's also horrific to think that technically speaking, in a war white phosphorus can be synthesised from your enemies' bones.

    • @derekstein6193
      @derekstein6193 Рік тому +37

      This reads like something a chaotic evil, alchemy enthusiast, necromancy wizard would come up with D&D.

    • @atrumluminarium
      @atrumluminarium Рік тому +10

      @@derekstein6193 Or some crazy Wagner skinhead. They strike me as a very "ritualistic" bunch like the SS was and would probably dabble in something like this.

    • @nouhorni3229
      @nouhorni3229 Рік тому +7

      ​@@atrumluminarium "some wagner mercenaries probably make war crimes from their enemies bones" bruh what? 💀

    • @atrumluminarium
      @atrumluminarium Рік тому +9

      @@nouhorni3229 I didn't say they ACTUALLY do it lol. Just that they've been known to have some deranged individuals in their ranks after their mass prison recruitments.

    • @needsmetal
      @needsmetal Рік тому +3

      @@atrumluminarium Nah the US gave Ukraine Wp and depleted uranium munitions

  • @ryanhampson673
    @ryanhampson673 Рік тому +19

    Prior Army EOD tech here (Bomb squad) WP is commonly labeled as “bursting smoke”. When fired from mortars are artillery shells when it bursts it creates a very quick smoke screen. The smoke canisters on armored vehicles fire bursting smoke canisters creating a thick smoke screen in the matter of a couple seconds. I remember doing some demo on old WP rockets. When blew them up into the air to make sure all of the WP burns away. When we went back down to check to see if everything was destroyed I noticed my boot was smoking. I had stepped on a small piece of WP and exposed it to air and it had started to smolder on my sole. Fortunately I was able to cover it back up to extinguish the flame but it definitely got the heart pumping for a few seconds…Fun times.

    • @Buglife.352
      @Buglife.352 Місяць тому

      Damn bro you got MASSIVE stones. Much respect

  • @Kaiquintos
    @Kaiquintos Рік тому +10

    I have a very strong belief that fire is the most horrific way to die. Because fire is never fast, it will burn and use the body fats to keep burning. Death by fire often comes from asphyxiation or smoke inhalation. A few instances have a victim pass out due to the high temperature. The survivors are generally always in pain. For many years. The reconstruction of their bodies may take a decade or longer.
    So when you start using something that functions like WP it just makes the entire thing far worse. And the sad part about this all is that incendiary munitions won't go out of military use. And no international law will ever be enough to stop some from using it.

  • @AlphaAchilles
    @AlphaAchilles Рік тому +22

    I had a white phosphorus rocket almost hit me in Afghanistan in 2013. There’s actually a picture of me somewhere in an article trying to put the fire out. That was before I knew it was WP. When I noticed the stripe on intact tail piece I noped right the fuck out of there.

  • @itsapittie
    @itsapittie Рік тому +94

    My father, who was a Korean War veteran, had burn scars on his chest which he said were from a white phosphorus grenade. I never got the whole story so I don't know if it was a US or a Chinese grenade. BTW, because soldiers are crude and irreverent, during my time in the service, we often referred to it as "wooly peter" instead of willie pete.

    • @avaevathornton9851
      @avaevathornton9851 Рік тому +2

      Sorry, why is "wooly peter" more crude than "willie pete"?

    • @SlapShotTakes
      @SlapShotTakes Рік тому

      Seems to work given the blockbuster movies and internationally renowned comedians we keep churning out.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie Рік тому

      @@avaevathornton9851 "Peter" is a euphemism for a male sex organ. Therefore, a wooly...ummm...guy part.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie Рік тому +3

      @@theassasinboy13 If you expect me to be ashamed of that, you're going to be disappointed.

    • @whacker9265
      @whacker9265 Рік тому

      @@theassasinboy13 I can absolutely assure you that one’s proclivity to have a “level” of crudeness isn’t affected by nationality. Wake up and stop taking pride in being godless.

  • @khorix51
    @khorix51 Рік тому +56

    I used to know a security guard from Australia who was in the special forces and said that he was at the battle of Fallujah and saw American planes drop white phosphorus on the city. He said he thought they were dropping smoke to cover the assault that his team was gearing up for. He also said that his team was sent into the city some time later to clear out any remaining insurgents. He didn’t describe the scene but he said while cold sober that since that day he would now rather fight the American army than fight with it. He got out of the armed forces as soon as he could.

    • @Rob-157
      @Rob-157 Рік тому +2

      Pretty sure he wouldn't have had to worry about fighting with them from what you said.

    • @feraleyedea9710
      @feraleyedea9710 Рік тому

      Australia doesn't want any smoke with America! Remember how Australia started as a country? Oh yeah Prison colony for EU! Also if it wasn't for America Australia wouldn't exist!

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure Рік тому +4

      Australia in Fallujah?
      Oh, he was "special forces"

  • @93xZam
    @93xZam 10 місяців тому +4

    Full circle back to the Gaza Strip, huh?

  • @AyaanAhmed12
    @AyaanAhmed12 9 місяців тому +5

    Israel has a history of using White Phosphorous on civilians in Gaza & Lebanon. Human Rights Watch & Amnesty International are raising this issue since a decade.

  • @jacob5373
    @jacob5373 Рік тому +23

    What a fantastically, difficult watch. Well done to the team.

  • @salvsays
    @salvsays Рік тому +25

    Simon just glossed over the guy trying to make the philosopher stone so hard

    • @salvsays
      @salvsays Рік тому +3

      Never mind he said it

    • @IrishMike22
      @IrishMike22 Рік тому +3

      He did an in-depth video on the guy whom saved and boiled his urine for a long time, I'm guessing it was the same dude he mentioned here.

  • @eurosonly
    @eurosonly Рік тому +5

    So it's like xenomorph blood?

  • @jss-ue7ju
    @jss-ue7ju Рік тому +79

    I was in Afghanistan in 2009, phosphorus ammuntion is trully the stuff of nightmares. We never had any to use, but the enemy sure did and will never forget seeing what it can do. Great video by the way.

    • @MercilessBreed
      @MercilessBreed Рік тому +1

      Care to share more details?

    • @ThePeacePlant
      @ThePeacePlant Рік тому +1

      Share more please

    • @r.b.ratieta6111
      @r.b.ratieta6111 Рік тому +29

      I remember listening to an account from a Marine who fought in Fallujah in 2007 and he said white phosphorus had been dropped through a U.S. artillery strike without informing the Marines. (Read More)
      He said none of the Marines were hit by the artillery, but when they went through to clear the area and secure the sector, he saw firsthand what WP does to human beings.
      In his own words (paraphrased based on memory), he said it looked like someone had dumped a huge vat of acid on every person before baking them in an oven, and they were "randomly melted through" with smoke billowing through their clothes and wounds. Flesh, muscle, bone, you could see everything at random intervals on every person.
      He said he and a Lance Corporal, basically his battle buddy, were told to secure an alleyway and make sure it was clear, but it horrified them so much that they turned back, ran around the corner, dawdled for a few minutes trying not to throw up, then lied and reported they'd secured the alleyway.
      He said they were later told the U.S. was "trying out a new compound" in their artillery shells, but a platoon commander who made a hobby of studying weapons and warfare technologies from different parts of history suspected very heavily it was white phosphorus, and the explanation of "a new compound" was just a way of covering the young Marines' asses if any were questioned by the press.
      The Marine stated in later years he did a bit of research on his own to see the effects of white phosphorus, and sure enough, what he could find seemed to match what he and the other Marines saw in Fallujah.
      He mentioned it still gives him nightmares.

    • @ozarkmountainwanderer3472
      @ozarkmountainwanderer3472 Рік тому

      ​@@OxTheHerdzz😂 I shake n baked plenty of Taliban in Kunar prov and on the Pak border as a former Artilleryman... shame your coward ass wasn't there... Simp on though lefty

    • @chrisoffersen
      @chrisoffersen Рік тому +10

      @@OxTheHerdzzThat’s the kind of thinking that perpetuates war… honestly.

  • @ChaseSchleich
    @ChaseSchleich Рік тому +57

    I've been terrified of white phosphorus since that scene in We Were Soldiers. That dudes skin fell off like it was clothing being removed. Seemed very accurate. Fucking nightmare fuel.

    • @TheHobbyist412
      @TheHobbyist412 Рік тому +21

      I believe the use of napalm was being depicted in that particular scene. It was horrific nonetheless

    • @lessgoofyone
      @lessgoofyone Рік тому +8

      ​@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketand innocent civilians?

    • @nzkshatriya6298
      @nzkshatriya6298 Рік тому

      are all civillians innocent?@@lessgoofyone

    • @thifarthefacetious
      @thifarthefacetious Рік тому +2

      ​@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketYou said that and your enemy said the same

    • @sabre22b
      @sabre22b Рік тому

      Most unintentionally inappropriately funny comment ever. I laughed. Then I didn't.

  • @hunterG60k
    @hunterG60k Рік тому +35

    What kind of sociopaths are in charge that they can know what this stuff does and just let it carry on existing? I mean, I just answered my own question but it still horrifies me.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому +2

      Sanctimonious drivel.

    • @BruceBoyde
      @BruceBoyde Рік тому

      ​@@eadweard.Oh yeah, fuck this guy who thinks that we shouldn't be using a pointlessly cruel, toxic material to kill each other. I for one think that we should find more painful ways to kill civilians.
      What kind of brainrot has people going around online and *attacking* people for suggesting that we don't cause needless suffering?

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому +2

      ​​​@@BruceBoydeWell I'm sceptical that comments like his will be effective in reducing human suffering - and I harbour just the slightest of suspicions that they are more intended to make the person making them appear morally righteous.

    • @BruceBoyde
      @BruceBoyde Рік тому +5

      @@eadweard. That's better. I can't say I entirely disagree with you, but I would counter that they may have just learned about white phosphorus weapons and their continued use. The response I'd expect is one of disgust, and every new person who learns about it is a person who might spread the word and in a perhaps eventually pressure policymakers. There's a solid argument that the U.S.' eventual disengagement from Vietnam was due to increasing public awareness (whether you think that was a good or bad thing). I don't really have faith in that happening, but hey.
      Or maybe they do just want a few upvotes.

    • @danielpeters2282
      @danielpeters2282 Рік тому +3

      The ones who want to win 😊

  • @ArlingtonAlbertson
    @ArlingtonAlbertson Рік тому +12

    Curious if anyone's ever thought if Greek fire was actually at least partially phosphorus based?

    • @todydn
      @todydn Рік тому

      Nope just higly refined oil and pine resin

    • @teresabenson3385
      @teresabenson3385 11 місяців тому

      It's crossed my mind, especially since no one has been confidently able to reproduce it.

  • @AxeMan808
    @AxeMan808 8 годин тому

    It's that long lastingness of its effect; the danger to the doctors and nurses, which should make it a war crime.
    I remember in middle school (6-8grade) they had an auditorium thing with a Vietnam Vet who had been almost killed by a Willy Pete grenade. I gave him huge props just for still staying with this whole "Life" thing.

  • @leonaire5876
    @leonaire5876 28 днів тому +4

    The fact that israel is able to consistently use this on civilians and recieve no consequences is actually fucking nuts

  • @magnushindborg
    @magnushindborg Рік тому +10

    Imagine the thought process though..
    "How to create a stone that turns other metals into gold.... hmm.. hard challenge.. i know! Ill piss in cup and boil it! Then ill light the residue on fire! Surely that must be the way to go!"

  • @papabob53johnson46
    @papabob53johnson46 10 місяців тому +4

    So now we can understand why the US is hated in certain parts of the world

  • @CraftAero
    @CraftAero Рік тому +9

    I really appreciate your "no none-sense" approach and delivery on this topic.
    Bang on man.

  • @imdoneplus
    @imdoneplus 11 місяців тому +11

    It’s being used in Gaza right now.

    • @damndude4649
      @damndude4649 6 місяців тому

      Thank God it's in the hands of a state easily held accountable! Hope accidents don't happen.

    • @TheRandompaint
      @TheRandompaint 4 місяці тому

      Good❤

    • @imdoneplus
      @imdoneplus 3 місяці тому

      @@TheRandompaint admitting you love war crimes against innocent civilians is a weird flex, but okay. If your innocent civilians were subjected to these war crimes, I wonder if you’d keep that same energy.

  • @ravendickens8425
    @ravendickens8425 Рік тому +12

    I love the topics you choose to tackle, the critical points that get made on this channel are professionally subtle and well evidenced and posed, really solid work from Simon and whoever wrote the script as always!

  • @crwydryny
    @crwydryny Рік тому +52

    Crazy thing is it is a war crime to use it directly on human targets... But it can be used to mark targets to the point that many officers are trained to shout "keep marking the target" if there's a chance that war reporters are in the area so they don't get brought up on war crimes when using WP
    And honestly im not surprised the US has blocked motions to get it banned.the US military still usesva lot of weapons that other countries consider illegal including cluster munitions with more than 5 sub munitions snd artillery launched mines

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 Рік тому

      Well, good f***in' luck legislating warfare to accomplish a g** d*** thing other than punishing the people who abide said "rules". The end of WWII was the only time in history that war criminals were sought out and actually brought to any justice, and even then, a LOT of them (more than faced justice) escape punishment, even with the vast majority of the world motivated to do so.
      The problem with trying to regulate any "rules of engagement" is that this is WAR you're talking about. It's a crime in and of itself, industrialized murder no matter how you try to define it. People are fighting for their lives, and that comes with desperation. Criminals don't give a sh*t about your rules, so only the decent people involved get limits, and limits in warfare are inherently WEAKNESS... period.
      Not once in all of human history has anyone won the war by dying for his country. He won it by making OTHER PEOPLE die for theirs... SO getting all gung-ho about going off to war and declaring war and finding a shooting solution isn't as nice or technical or a fancy affair. It's an undignified brawl to the deaths of hundreds and/or thousands... millions... more... AND then there's the public demands for more retribution... more revenge... a non-stop cycle... from whatabout-ism to generational divides and all the excuses used to justify the next atrocity.
      When YOUR ass is on the line, you'll be damnably thankful the weapon or countermeasure works, and not too picky about what kind of hell is getting rained down on "the enemy" that's hellbent to kill you... maim you... drag you down some gods-awful pit and torture you... or worse. ;o)

    • @PaIaeoCIive1684
      @PaIaeoCIive1684 Рік тому

      The US deliberately fired WP into basements in Fallujah and elsewhere as a tactic to avoid their troops clearing buildings and risking themselves. Only Channel 4 news showed the piles of glowing civilian corpses resulting from this war crime, but some WP use on civilians were also later revealed in Julian Assange's Wikileaks of US/UK war crimes. No wonder he's held as a political prisoner in the west.

    • @NearQuasar
      @NearQuasar Рік тому +3

      Most weapons that are banned are weapons that are relatively impractical, but cause unnecessary suffering. For example gas killed very few people in WW1 compared to artillery and machine guns, but since gasses like Chlorine can cause permanent blindness.

    • @Schwarzvogel1
      @Schwarzvogel1 Рік тому +4

      @@NearQuasar That's the sad aspect of things... the horrific stuff that kills people very well isn't banned. The gnarly stuff which kills people not as well, but in rather gnarly ways tends to be banned or simply falls out of use when people find some better way to deliver painful death to their designated enemies but with far less risk to themselves.
      For instance, flamethrowers were _never_ banned by the Geneva Convention. Neither were triangular-profile bayonets. Almost nobody uses flamethrowers anymore because we developed better ways of delivering heat to the enemy, like incendiary rockets, which provide a human barbecue on demand but _without_ risking one of your own lads' life by sending him forward with a 70-lb Super Soaker designed in hell strapped to his back.
      Likewise, triangular bayonets are not common in armies anymore because bayonets are no longer effective casualty-causing agents on the battlefield, _and_ because some clever people figured out the following about a hundred years ago:
      1. In an age of repeating rifles and machine guns, the bayonet is pretty much useless as a weapon for incapacitating enemy combatants.
      2. Soldiers still need knives--occasionally for opening up people wearing the wrong colours, but more often for opening up packages, cutting through wire, etc.
      3. Soldiers are already carrying enough stuff--why load them down with a bayonet _and_ a utility knife when you can have the bayonet double as their utility knife (or vice versa).
      Triangular bayonets are only good for poking holes in people. Knives are useful for cutting and poking holes in a variety of things besides people. The thought behind making triangular bayonets was _not_ an increase in wounding potential as much as a desire to make a stabbing implement that was cheap to make and robust (not as likely to snap or break in the field under normal, or even heavy use). It's cheaper and easier to make a strong pointed spike than to make a knife blade which is rigid and strong enough to withstand repeated use as a thrusting and stabbing implement. Even before the bayonet was invented, there were various examples of stabbing or thrusting weapons designed with triangular or rhomboid blades, such as stilettos and some rapiers. The thought behind these was again to make weapons purely optimised for stabbing over cutting.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure Рік тому

      Please cite where Officers are literally trained to* say "keep marking the target".

  • @doclewis8927
    @doclewis8927 Рік тому +25

    Poor child. I've had to endure one skin graft. I could not imagine being a child (or seeing a child) endure such a painful process repeatedly. Hopefully, someone will hear her story and help. Bless, Razia and her father, may they find the help they need. It disgusts me that humans do this to each other.

    • @stevesestrich5143
      @stevesestrich5143 10 місяців тому

      And now Israel is dropping it on women and children in Gaza.

  • @WheatSn4ckBread
    @WheatSn4ckBread Рік тому +76

    I had no idea Shake and Bakes were a war crime. During artillery training we did a lot of Shake and Bake fire missions, and this was years after the battle of Fallujah.

    • @danielpeters2282
      @danielpeters2282 Рік тому +14

      It’s not

    • @EastBayFlipper
      @EastBayFlipper Рік тому

      ​@@danielpeters2282 only to the US military 🤦🏻‍♂️
      ..and it's client states.😫
      The rest of the planet knows this is chemical warfare and can be replied to in kind😳😬
      ....be sure that someone will deploy much nastier chemicals in retaliation eventually, it's damn near a guarantee

    • @Buglife.352
      @Buglife.352 Рік тому

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketdlc package lol

    • @SEAZNDragon
      @SEAZNDragon Рік тому +22

      I served 2008-2014 as a mortarman and was told shake and bakes were illegal. However I quickly realized there was a bit of a loophole: WP is used as marker and we aim where the WP hit so we’re still doing a “shake and bake” even if we didn’t call it that.

    • @robdeskrd
      @robdeskrd Рік тому

      Everything about Iraq was a war crime, the people in the Bush administration only waited for an excuse to invade Iraq so they blew up the WTC and lied about WMDs...... what you don't think it's a strange that both times people tried to blow up the WTC a Bush was president?
      Those guys who so much evil & murder around the world world for wealth & power wouldn't do it here too? Of course they would.

  • @ATruckCampbell
    @ATruckCampbell Рік тому +15

    It is not a warcrime if you are in NATO.

  • @Dragonited
    @Dragonited Рік тому +4

    The problem with trying to charge the US and Russia with war crimes is that they do not acknowledge the Haag war crime tribunals jurisdiction. So even if it were fully classified as a war crime the tribunal have no way to charge the US or Russia for it.

  • @GutRot1113
    @GutRot1113 Рік тому +6

    Despite how horrific willie pete actually is world militaries are still going to use it. They'll swear it's for masking and making smokescreens but there are other ways to do that that doesn't have to use a chemical weapon that's melts bodies. One of the best depictions of willie pete in fiction is from Spec Ops: The Line. You play as the villian, though you don't know it, but there is a moment where you basically use WP to murder a bunch of civilians. While only being fiction it really shows the horror of just how dangerous WP actually is.

  • @DarkWarchieff
    @DarkWarchieff Рік тому +7

    so how about Napalm's sucessors? these incendiary liquids. Are these legal? are they better or worse in regards of suffering?

    • @Tmaget
      @Tmaget Рік тому +4

      Both stick to flesh like glue and just keep Burning and I would also say that this level of pain has no metric for measuring

    • @NearQuasar
      @NearQuasar Рік тому

      ⁠@@TmagetPain from burns like this actually only occur for a short while until it burns away all the nerves that detect pain.

  • @jeddkeech259
    @jeddkeech259 Рік тому +7

    As a person who has worked in a phosphate mine, and my dad made a career there. I wonder how many chickens I fed, Coca Cola I made, and chemical weapons we unintentionally made

  • @Shacthulhu
    @Shacthulhu Рік тому +7

    Thank you for educating with compassion. I believe this production is the best I’ve yet seen from your channel. High marks considering the trove of great work to be found throughout.

  • @evanblake5252
    @evanblake5252 Рік тому +7

    I think a very effective example of the horror of white phosphorus comes from the game "Spec-ops: The Line". Brutal scene, both physically, and emotionally speaking.

    • @nizar70707
      @nizar70707 11 місяців тому +1

      i always think about that game and scene when I see news about white phosphorus

    • @evanblake5252
      @evanblake5252 11 місяців тому

      It really is brutal. The whole game, but that scene is among the worst. @@nizar70707

  • @ericwarmath1091
    @ericwarmath1091 Рік тому +5

    I went to college with a Vietnam veteran who had 9 circular scars on his body from cutting WP out of his skin.

  • @theinfamoust4670
    @theinfamoust4670 Рік тому +5

    Yup, Willie Pete is some nasty stuff. The difference between smoke screen and war crime is plausible deniability.

  • @wyattterrell
    @wyattterrell Рік тому +6

    I was thinking VX but ok

    • @DeliveryMcGee
      @DeliveryMcGee Рік тому +2

      VX is relatively quick-acting, though, and there's an antidote. I mean, it's still suffocation from all your muscles seizing up, and even if you get the double auto-injector in time and survive it's still going to ruin your month, but ...

  • @erustownsend9790
    @erustownsend9790 8 місяців тому +2

    Only a war crime if you agreed to the treaty and the US did not.

  • @kathrynvanwaart
    @kathrynvanwaart Рік тому +9

    The story of razia, poor girl. I can just imagine the pain and horror all of them went through. This is stuff not even my nightmares dare to imagine

    • @trollmastermike52845
      @trollmastermike52845 Рік тому

      It is honestly an indictment vs mankind.
      The Jewish people survived a genocide, just to try on doing it to someone else.
      Truly evil incarnate

    • @946towguy2
      @946towguy2 11 місяців тому +1

      You are assuming she actually existed and that it wasn't just a made-up propaganda story.

  • @wither5673
    @wither5673 10 місяців тому +4

    I still think that who ever thought of using it in warfare should just straight up be put on trial for war crimes, along with anyone who authorizes its use and uses it. Its just so horrific that I dont care if it possibly has tactical advantages, it SHOULD NOT be used.

    • @joeallan3706
      @joeallan3706 4 місяці тому +1

      the idea of war crimes is laughable. anyone can and will use anything to advance there objectives and only the winner will decide who committed them, so lets drop the whole charade

  • @proanimali
    @proanimali Рік тому +7

    Thank you for this video. Maybe it can alert more people to this horrific chemical and cause more people to protest against the use of it in war. But, I'm not hopeful.

  • @itzbuilder5034
    @itzbuilder5034 Рік тому +9

    First to watch the War Crime vid!
    Edit: ITS NOT A WAR CRIME?!?!?

    • @AliceBowie
      @AliceBowie Рік тому +3

      War Crimes are more stuff like hollowpoint bullets, serrated knives, mace, pepper spray, wearing disguises, etc.
      I'm totally serious, the Geneva convention stuff is just what cops do everyday, while the stuff that isn't a war crime is stuff like nukes and white phosphorus, land mines, etc

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому +2

      ​@@AliceBowieBarely coherent drivel.

    • @Plaprad
      @Plaprad Рік тому +1

      @@AliceBowie None of those are actually warcrimes except in certain circumstances.
      For instance, the Hague Convention is why people think hollowpoints are a warcrime. But if you read it, it's only a warcrime if they're used against "civilized" armies. All those treaties, conventions, articles and such are just "How can we make this seem illegal, but we can still do it?"

    • @Bluesit32
      @Bluesit32 Рік тому +2

      Of course not. Why would a smoke screen be a war crime? Sure, it's a bit dangerous when misused...
      This is the logic at play here.

    • @propershroper
      @propershroper Рік тому +1

      It's the misuse of it that's a war crime. And since it's regularly and deliberately being misused it needs an outright ban.

  • @JackFrost008
    @JackFrost008 10 місяців тому +2

    her daughter *melted* in her arms...
    *for anything ignorant enough to say white phosphorous is not a war crime. LOOK AT WHAT IT DOES TO PEOPLE.*
    for your own sanity don't go looking at photos.

  • @maskich06
    @maskich06 8 місяців тому +2

    - This is your fault, goddammit!
    - Stop right there, Lugo!
    - But it is! He wouldn't listen!
    - We didn't have a choise!
    - He turned us into fucking killers!

    • @Bluesit32
      @Bluesit32 8 місяців тому

      Which is pretty funny considering how many people they killed to get that far. I guess they didn't count.

  • @midnite_rambler
    @midnite_rambler Рік тому +20

    Man's inhumanity to man never ceases to amaze me.
    Things like this just shows that psychopaths run wars.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому +2

      Self-satisfied drivel.

    • @amymason156
      @amymason156 Рік тому +4

      ​@@eadweard. Sounds more like an expression of extreme dissatisfaction with others than satisfaction with self.

  • @georgepalmer5497
    @georgepalmer5497 Рік тому +5

    White phosphorus appears sometimes in the movies. In the movie "Platoon" an American soldier is hit with white phosphorus while they're attacking a bunker, and another American soldier digs it out with a knife. I think the Americans might have used white phosphorus to clear a hiding place when the Americans burn down that village. It also occurred in the movie "Fury". German soldiers are flushed out by white phosphorus and they have white phosphorus on them. An American soldier says, "let them burn", but an American soldier humanely kills they with a .50 cal. machine gun. I don't remember the name of the movie, but there is a movie about an Israeli intelligence unit that uses white phosphorus to kill a room full of Arab intelligence operators. The Israelis said they used the white phosphorus to burn all the oxygen out of the air, suffocating the Arabs. It's been a long time since I saw that movie. ..... White phosphorus is very useful to put up a smoke screen, but as long as we have it some dumb private is going to use it to clear out a bunker or a room.

  • @kdkorz10211
    @kdkorz10211 Рік тому +4

    It is absurd that use of WP is not legally a war crime. This is such a clear cut example of the difference between what is legal and what is moral.

  • @elin_
    @elin_ 10 місяців тому +2

    It's always the civilians who are suffering when the men in power decides that they want more power... *sigh*

  • @EnriqueGavel-m8d
    @EnriqueGavel-m8d Рік тому +1

    Willy Pete is some wicked stuff. I never hv understood why some things are war crimes but others more horrific things aren’t. We can’t use napalm but Willy Pete and du rounds are perfectly fine. We can’t use tear gas to disperse a could but we can fire upon a violent crowd during war.

  • @vdogg1987
    @vdogg1987 11 місяців тому +5

    The timing of this video is... intriguing.

  • @shadiy6374
    @shadiy6374 Рік тому +5

    I am surprised that more of these comments center around WP in Vietnam and those horrors as opposed to the fact that the US and Israeli militaries are both the largest perpetrators of these war crimes in recent times having literally razed cities with it…

    • @TheRandompaint
      @TheRandompaint 4 місяці тому

      Not cities, rat dens.😊

    • @shadiy6374
      @shadiy6374 3 місяці тому

      @@TheRandompaintalright incel, what an enlightened comment.

  • @cameronmadden8723
    @cameronmadden8723 Рік тому +6

    Jesus, at least nukes kill instantly

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee Рік тому +4

      Well if you're in the blast zone. If not you get to die from ars.

    • @vipervidsgamingplus5723
      @vipervidsgamingplus5723 Рік тому

      If you are in the blast zone yes, further out you get radiation burns then further out you get cancer. Depending how far you are from it, the lower your chances of cancer are but it is still higher than not being near it at all.

  • @rebelroar78
    @rebelroar78 10 місяців тому +2

    “Unfortunately what he created doesn’t make people rich”
    The global arms industry: hold my illegal “illumination” munitions.

  • @theoptimisticskeptic
    @theoptimisticskeptic Рік тому +14

    One of my best friend's father served in Viet Nam in the USMC and he was on a ship that had an accident with some white phosphorous. He said there was a crewmate that was trying to clean up and picked up a jagged piece of meta that a bit of phosphorous on the tip and when bent back to throw it off the ship, in kind of a football pass motion, it barely touched his arm just below the elbow and he ended up throwing that entire part of his arm in the water alone with the piece of metal. His arm came apart that quickly.

    • @theoptimisticskeptic
      @theoptimisticskeptic Рік тому +2

      That story always stuck with me ever since I was a kid.

    • @todydn
      @todydn Рік тому +1

      ​@@TravellingLampever heard the reports from the guy at nagasaki he said he tried to help a lady if the ground and the skin came off her arms like gloves nucleation of protiens is crazy

  • @solrinin
    @solrinin Рік тому +10

    Ah yes, the classic obvious loophole that can't be closed excuse. We humans are so good at justifying any kind of evil we do to each other.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому +1

      There is no loophole. You're not allowed to fire it at people.

    • @Hurricayne92
      @Hurricayne92 Рік тому +1

      @@eadweard. Tell the to the US

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому

      @@Hurricayne92 Why?

  • @DanStevenson
    @DanStevenson Рік тому +4

    When my drill sergeant fought in Vietnam they threw white phosphorus grenades into a VC trench position. When my drill sergeant's unit advanced my drill sergeant ran up to the trench to see what his white phosphorous grenade did to the VC. The WP burnt through the top of the VC's head causing smoke to come out of the VC's nose and mouth and there was a weird whistling and clicking noise coming from the VC's nose. I was told this story in 1988 and my drill sergeant fought in 1968 my drill sergeant told me whenever heard a tea post whistling he is reminded of that day.

  • @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
    @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg Рік тому +5

    White phosphorus is used against residential areas of Gaza by the Israeli Defence Forces, every time they mount one of their punitive raids against the enclave. Its terror effect is the only reason for using this weapon, but as the narrator says this is not a war crime: if used against the military. Attacks on civilians are, however, crimes. Attacks on civilians using white phosphorus are an atrocity.

    • @eyalamit5120
      @eyalamit5120 Рік тому

      Literally no evidence we used this to INTENTIONALLY harm civilians. Stop lying. It's common knowledge that Hamas and IJ hide their stuff in civilian areas to deter us from attacking. Today we have measures against it like roof knocking. There's plenty to criticize about my mess of a country that doesn't include literally lying about the Israel-Palestine conflict. Also it hasn't been used since this incident.

    • @eyalamit5120
      @eyalamit5120 Рік тому

      Though I agree it shouldn't have been used at all it's ridiculous and I condemn it. What the fuck was the IDF smoking in 2008...?

  • @lombardo141
    @lombardo141 Рік тому +2

    Of course a German Scientist came up with it. 😂

  • @ACuteLilUFO
    @ACuteLilUFO 2 місяці тому +1

    This is truly evil that people would ever use such a terrifying and agonizing weapon against their fellow humans.

  • @abbadi2000
    @abbadi2000 8 місяців тому +6

    Free palestine 🇵🇸✌️

  • @Sienisota
    @Sienisota Рік тому +4

    14:20 The loophole is ridiculous! By this rule, you could use *mustard gas* as a "smokescreen". Heck, you can use *everything* as a "smokescreen". It isn't very good at it, but I'm using [insert deadly toxin] as a smokescreen. Not to *harm* anyone, that isn't its' purpose! /s

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd Рік тому +1

      I've heard phosgene smells like freshly cut grass. So it might also be used as air freshener.

    • @Bluesit32
      @Bluesit32 8 місяців тому +1

      If it doesn't WORK as a smokescreen, the excuse doesn't fly. Mustard gas would be a terrible smokescreen.

  • @BackYardScience2000
    @BackYardScience2000 Рік тому +11

    As someone who's had 2nd and 3rd degree burns from WP before, I can say first hand that the burns hurt worse than anything that you could ever imagine and it truly will vaporize your skin quickly.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure Рік тому

      It doesn't vaporize anything.
      It burns stuff.

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 10 місяців тому

      ​@@InitialFailurecome back when you have experience with WP burns. I lived the nightmare, you haven't. Come back when you've had 60% of your hand burned off like I did. It burns hotter than almost anything and that's enough to vaporize many things, including skin and hair. Don't believe me? View my post in the community section on my page showing the burns. Thankfully (or not), people with actual experience are here to show what it's really like to those who know nothing about it....

  • @soonmeekim930
    @soonmeekim930 8 місяців тому +2

    I’d love to see a video (if you haven’t already) about victims of agent orange and its effects today

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies Рік тому +2

    Russia is using this in Ukraine, on cities, etc.

  • @prophoenix212
    @prophoenix212 Рік тому +11

    Israel should be punished..

    • @CowToes
      @CowToes Рік тому +5

      *shouldn't exist
      Ftfy

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому

      ​@@CowToesExterminationism has never been so hip

    • @Plaprad
      @Plaprad Рік тому +4

      They never have been and likely never will be for all the things they've done.

    • @nochannel1q2321
      @nochannel1q2321 Рік тому +1

      The rocket attacks launched on the Israeli civilians prior to the counterattacks would probably be counted as the punishment had Israel not been countering them.

    • @CowToes
      @CowToes Рік тому

      ​​@@eadweard.Pft. Tell that to Palestine. You've already proven yourself stupid and disingenuous. Way to really make that even more clear.