"Anytime i saw Jesse in a suit or James in a poofy dress, i never thought of that as something that didn't make sense, i just accepted that was who they were". By far the best thing said in this video and i 100% agree.
The sad thing is that “female character in traditionally masculine clothes” is not generally controversial and, in fact, it’s often portrayed as very attractive, only a male in traditionally feminine clothing (or as a Scotsman an article of clothing some might mock as looking like feminine clothing) is considered worthy of scorn.
That's what I like about Paradise Kiss. The characters heavily involve in story, but being bi and transgender don't defy them. I really love how fabulous Isabelle is
@@ravenfrancis1476 huh? are you referring to Angelica's mom? i don't quite remember, but i don't think it was condoning transphobia...I mean I could be wong
Every other country's version of censorship made so much more sense than America's. They are still my OTP though (Sailor Neptune is my favorite sailor guardian).
Haha, no matter how much they tried to change the dialog to go with the whole "cousins" angle, the looks they gave eachother and body language that was animated was just too intense. Also, I mean, Haruka was ALWAYS flirting with Usagi/Serena, how the heck does anyone explain that away?
@@PGOuma I...THINK that's a thing but it's also not socially acceptable I believe. I'd have to Google it but I also don't want to have to delete my browsing history XD
the void is nice Do you even listen to the song? That is NOT what the song is about. That is like saying I Shot the Sheriff is about a mass shooter, which is not.
Syaoran actually comes out to Sakura in one episode. His attraction to Yukito was one of the most charming and progressive aspects of the show, but this is rarely mentioned
I didn’t know I was bisexual until my adult years, and looking back at my early anime watching days, I can definitely see my favorite male characters were just disguised crushes.
Same, late bloomers, for me it was at 17 after realising I had a crush on my best friend but had a boyfriend at the same time, and also right before I started watching Kobayashi
I'd like to add that Maddie Blaustein (the first voice actor for Meowth on pokemon and other 4kids content) was a transgender woman and apparently 4kids was 100% cool with that and even gave her female roles after her transition (yes 4kids was still flawed regardless)
@@ChaosSwissroIl actually I think it's because of the same contract situation as the rest of the Pokemon cast being replaced. And maybe because she did pass a few years post transition :(
apology89 4Kids also used actors of a different gender besides just Meowth (Nyaasu), whereas it was originally voiced by a woman who sounds more like a cat, while in English it was voiced by a man who labeled himself as a woman. Gary (Shigeru) was voiced by a woman in Japanese, and by a man in English.
love that lily from zombieland saga is a trans girl, and the fact that it inst focused on is kind of nice because its like "hey these people exist and that's that" and as a trans woman myself it was just very nice and reassuring
I still dont understand how Lily was revealed to be Trans Nothing in the show, tht I recall, hinted at it Only thing was tht Lily had the name, Masao (a boys name; plenty of women hav masculine names) b4 dying. Unless the author of the manga confirmed outright. FYI Im not being transphobic; im just trying to find out where this info was confirmed, of the character.
@@Daigon95 The whole point of that episode was the reveal that Lily was a "boy" and the shock of discovering that she was going through masculine puberty is what killed her. The rest of the girls even have a discussion later about it when they find out that Lily was not born a girl. (And basically settle on "it doesn't matter, all that matters is how she identifies.") They never outright say the word trans, but it was still very very obvious. I remember there being an obnoxious conversation going around when that episode aired about whether she was actually trans or just a "trap", because some people were adamant there's a difference, but I've never seen anyone suggest that the idea they were trying to convey is anything other than that Lily was not born a girl.
@@Zeik56 hmmm I guess the wording and implications were altered, when I was watching Funimations dub. Yes I dont like watching subs unless its a last resort. lol idk its been a good few months since I seen the show, and I was never hinted towards Lily being born a boy. (probably bc, like I said above with the altered translation maybe) When I saw this pop up all over Rule 34 and hentai manga, I honestly thought, "I guess they just prefer Lily being a boy for their Trap hentai or whtever" Never thought it was actually canon and Lily was trans. lol
@@Daigon95 I actually remember watching it and one of the girls implied that it didnt matter what private parts she had or something along those lines, at least in the spanish translation
Erin Ebsen Since that show is a reference to how singers are treated in the idol industry or by major labels, what happened to Masao is like how child stars were abused physically and mentally by their parents, managers, and Hollywood. Kind of like what happened to Gary Coleman, Macaulay Culkin, and others.
Its interesting just how often obvious subtextual hints are thrown in that they are in a romantic relationship... small things like an interest in holding hands, shy exchanged glances, clothing purchases for a partner, jacket lending, and such... it's enough that a total aro-ace like me thinks its obvious (that it's way more than just platonic best friends, as I would normally ascribe to to dude friends in a shounen show). I wonder why it is that a big name shoujo manga of the '90s like Sailor Moon could feature leads who were lesbian, but why Shounen Jump won't let a pair of male leads to be out. I suppose you have the cultural context of Neptune & Mercury modeling the widely-accepted-but-taboo relationship seen in traditional Takarazuka musical theater, vs the more generally taboo relationship hinted at between Kirishima and Bakugou. Maybe as we approach the end of the story we'll get an indisputable canonical reveal.
@@BeastGuardian The sub voice actor for Bakugo openly said he thinks Kirishima is the one for him so I realllllllly think there is a chance. And taking BNHA Smash into consideration and that they og author did have a hand in writing some of it and has acknowledged it, the only reason I find for them to not have a big reveal at least on the end of Kirishima's sexuality is to avoid reactionaries getting upset, but being just revealing enough so that people who are paying close attention can see whats going on.
@@BeastGuardian maybe is just fan service, like the roof scene with detective Ichijou and Yusuke Godai in Kamen rider Kuuga or the libra house warming with Andromeda Shun and Cygnus Hyoga in Saint seiya.
That cousin stuff in SM didn't fool me when I was little. I knew they were together and figured they weren't actually related, but I couldn't figure out why the eng dub would lie to me haha
Because cousin-lovin is more acceptable in some circles than lady-lovin. 'Murica! (And yeah, that BS applies in "cosmopolitan" coastal cities as much as any rural areas.)
It's is the worst censorship ever...that is why is the best. It failed soo bad in being less...that it ended up being something scarier. ~~really just have the kid be religious,and the shadow realm sound way more scarier then death~~
Same the shadow realm sounded horrifying to me as a kid as it's more of a place where your soul would be forever trapped instead of being to go free. And it's not like anyone dies in Disney movies die, right?
"There's no way to censor the Sailor Starlights" Okay BUT! I had a friend who grew up with the show's Italian dub and she once informed me that they censored it in Italy by having it that the Starlights were the Male versions 'Twin Sisters' that they would go call for help when they were needed. Unfortunately me and that friend aren't really on speaking terms anymore so I can't confirm if I'm just remembering wrong T_T
The fact I see no JoJos on this list (Specifically my favorite couple Tiziano and Squalo from Golden Wind) is disappointing. One of the main Rules of JoJos is the gayer/ more androgynous the characaters are the stronger they are.
lol dude yes. I personally avoid both romance & lust entirely when it comes to myself, straight or otherwise, but I adore and greatly appreciate seeing it in others. So seeing couples with really good dynamics makes my heart happy. Also everyone in Jojo manages to be both as masculine & feminine as possible simultaneously and I love that so much.
@@Topunito it could have still been interesting hearing her talk about how in old scans they censored the relationship between sorbet and gelato tho, saying that they were only REALLY close friends jddkfgk
It's fine you get the representation. But not everything should be about lgbtq. Anyways it's a cartoon for kids, we know how much kids absorbed from just seeing things. Worldwide census are pretty much straight from what I know. So why should it be going full-on LGBTQ? Maybe if you need the show to fulfil your needs for a lgbtq representation maybe it's never in you to begin with. I know they world will all come to this. It's nothing we can run from but I know in the end there will be peace. Anyways I hope you have a good day. Don't worry on the wrong things. 😊
@@azizanputra It's absolutely the right thing to worry about. Kids might be LGBT+ as they might be straight and cis, and having media representation is important so they can know they are perfectly normal, feel accepted and realize they can accomplish things even when inserted in a, most often, homophobic society. I WISH everything would be LGBT+, as most things have always been straight, but they aren't. And I wish people like you wouldn't try to keep pushing false symmetry as if being openly LGBT+ and having LGBT+ characters is wrong or harmful. :)
@@shadow4040 people shouldn't be hated, ostracized and killed based on fantasy. Religion is fantasy and should not dictate anything outside the lives of the ones who choose to believe.
@@onionypeach6304 that's disrespectful to straight up say religion is fantasy. If that's your belief, fine, but do not state it as fact. Many LGBTQ+ people are still religious
People really be sleeping on doukyuusei, that's so sad. It's not as implicit as yuri on ice and has actual kissing that is not censored, it shows a realistic relationship with a slow build-up and the animation and voice acting is GREAT
*Series:* "Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune are together!" Awww. That's sweet! *Series:* "And it's because Sailor Uranus has both the qualities of a man and a woman!" O-okay. Stop drilling, you hit oil. *Series:* "And she can switch between the two whenever she wants so that it's okay..." STOP!
@@an8202 In the manga she was introduced as a man and even appeared in a Tuxedo Mask-esque costume. It was also explicitly stated that she had qualities of both men and women, that wasn't subtext at all. Haruka is a intersex bigender icon and WE STAN
Keane Waah They probably didn't translate the rest of the show. "Koui ni ataisuru yo" can be translated that way. They could use "I love you as a friend" for "Sukitte koto sa."
When I was a kid I had Sailor Moon on VHS and I thought the "Cousins who Loved Each Other" was a cultural thing from Japan that might not have translated well. I didn't realize that was wrong until I was a teen and I heard what they actually were to each other from people who had watched the Japanese dub.
UPDATE [Sunday/20191006]: The Canadian Anime "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" had two adult female characters (Lyra & Bonbon) proposing each others with wedding rings simultaneously (onscreen). -> Their wedding will be implied (offscreen), with their honeymoon travel & wedding dresses (onscreen) in the final episode of the series to be released on USA [Saturday 20191012].
Yes to that end note: How could you forget GIVEN!!! It has such good representation, characters and the MUSIC!! I honestly cried with it! one of the best of the year for me (and that a lot since we've had pretty good series this year.) Also, will anyone EVER please talk or remember The Rose Of Versailles, you know ,the one that inspired many of the series you mentioned here like RGUtena???!
GIVEN is also getting a movie . according to people who read the manga the movie will go more indept with the relationship between haruka [ ponytail guy idk if thats his name ] and akihiko im looking forward to it
pfwahaha nice spotting, I mean I am 100% sure they didn't think about it and it's just because they already had the ratios for Marill, but still amazing, that anyone would even notice ^^
I cannot tell you how happy I am to live in a time where anime is receiving well crafted, intriguing critical response videos, and I get to watch and share them. Thanks for another great video!
Before we cheer about how far we've come, I'd like a minute of silence for poor Shun being remade into a girl in the upcoming Saint Seya reboot, because pink Cloth I guess. 😒🙄
Tomoyo and Sakura were second cousin, since their mothers were first cousins, now... it was pretty obvious Tomoyo's mother had a crush on Sakura's mom, what's the thing with cousins?
I don't know, probably because they are people the same age that you hang out with a lot because your parents make you, but you are not siblings, more like friends, so you try stuff together. That's how I've seen it a lot irl
@@Cloverfr maybe it was censored in America, but in the dubs of my country (at least on UA-cam) didn't censor any of the relationships in the anime, there was an episode where Sakura was confused (abt Syaoran I think?) And she met Rika by chance and ended up asking for advice cuz she was able to confess to the teacher, after some heart to heart Sakura thanks her and while leaving she asks what she was doing there alone and Rika answers she's waiting for someone, right after Sakura left Tarada appears, he's like "was that Sakura?" And then asks Rika if he left her waiting (I think there were more details, but this is getting long). Kid me watching this: •__• ??? Edit: just some spelling adjustments
@@mariniendoh9109 The relationship was censored in the anime, I grew with the spanish version with no censorship , there is no explicit reciprocal relationship, while in the manga he openly proposed to her, and gave her an engagement ring, thing that never happened in the anime.
@@winterscott1512 there is no A my dude. The acronym ends at lgbt its not some alphabet soup. You can literally be cis and heteroromantic and be ace therefore it is not inherently lgbt.
So, I just finished rewatching Ouran High School Host Club, and while it still means a lot to me in how it shaped MY bi-dentity as a teen, it.. really hasn't aged well in some respects? I love Haruhi's dad for being canonically out as bi, but in both the dub and the sub that I found, both him and other characters use the word "t****y" to refer to either his job as a drag performer, or some general form of genderfluidity. And while Benibara still makes me SWOON, at the end of the day she is still portrayed as the predatory lesbian villain, and not a character in her own right. I got my hands on the manga though, which is a lot more explicit - while in the anime Haruhi seems more indifferent about being a host, maybe finding it interesting, in the manga she seems excited about the prospect of being swooned over by girls, heavily hinting that she's not completely straight. Thanks for also reminding me to watch Revolutionary Girl Utena!
It's been a long time since I read (or watched) Ouran, but regarding Haruhi's dad, my understanding is that (A) they used a term that is more connected to his job than his sexuality, and (B) Japan has a very different relationship with all flavors of gender-transgressive expression (among men, at least). There are scholarly books and documentaries about what is considered acceptable as a profession, versus personal sexuality, versus public gender expression, versus socio-political rights. Haruhi's dad never gets quite enough exploration as a character to really get into any of it, and honestly, I don't know how much the author even knew (or was able to include) about it, but you can look it up if you're interested.
Mandisa W Hey, that is interesting! I always figured that they were never using t****y as a slur and more just a descriptive word, but it always seemed like an awkward choice for the English dub and sub. I’m hoping that the more I read the manga, the more will be explained, in true Shojo Beat style there are loads of notes in the boarders of the pages explaining the context of Japanese phrases, words, translations etc. Thanks for pointing that out, will definitely be doing some research!
@@tabpanter5750 A lot of the terms used about and among LGBT people in Japan are in flux, just like in the US. So it's not all that odd that the expressions used in Ouran - in either language - are out-of-sync with modern usage.
i can see how the story hasnt aged well and certain terms dont translate well, although i personally disagree about Benibara. i know the lobelia girls were presented as the villains, but in the comedy, it really seemed to me like they were just a similar group from another school, and i really liked that they werent just the host club but girls :p idk im probably overthinking it, i just really love those gals haha
My 8 year old self was pretty aware that Yukito and Toya were a thing and that Tomoyo was in love with Sakura and I grew up to be a very functional adult, thanks to the Spanish dubs.
One thing I found really about Utena is that in the sub she uses boku to refer to herself. Which adds to how she views herslef since its usually used by males
When you hear that they said it was a lesbian relationship in sailor moon but technically Sailor Uranus identifies as being neither male or female in the original Japanese manga that the anime was based off of.
I have a gender non-conforming friend who identifies as a lesbian too, though... I'd say saying Sailor Uranus is in a lesbian relationship is as close as you can get, since the character is not real and can't say what they identify as...
Ouran high school host club! Is amazing, when it comes to LGBT+ representation, the main character literally states that they don’t care about gender as a whole and that a person is a person no matter what gender they are! Honestly haruhi made me be happy as the non binary person! Also the fact that all of the male characters found haruhi attractive even when she did look like a boy and even when they didn’t know she it a boy!
I'm so happy that I read the Card Captor Sakura manga when I was little! It had the original story, names and intentions. I'm not sure HOW accurate the german translation is but I definetley noticed the things between Touya and Yukito as well as Tomoyos feeling. What they did to the anime in america really is a war crime
It was quite strange. The people behind the localization were given the task of making it set in a generic USA town and to retarget the audience to boys ages 8-12. KidsWB was hoping for a new Pokemon phenomenon. I really do not understand why they felt the need to change the setting, as Digimon did quite well for Fox Kids without attempting to change the setting (deriving easy English nicknames from the kids' original japanese names). The push to make Syaoran Li a more equal main character, rather than focusing on Sakura as the lead, was a very confusing one, they ended up editing the original 70 episodes into a 39 episode series to try to match that requirement. The production companies involved feared that they would be attacked by conservatives if the show was too japanese or had anything that was vaguely homosexual and feared that they wouldn't sell enough toys to boys if it seemed like the show was just about a girl. Well, when it was first released, the religious and cultural conservatives attacked KidsWB because the Clow Cards looked too much like tarot cards ^^;. Maybe they shouldn't have worked so hard editing everything out...
I wish there was more transgender woman and men characters in anime and manga. The only manga I read that was close to having a transmen character as lead was called, damnit I forgot....... it but was good manga though. We need most transmen characters.
One good manga with a trans male character as one of the protagonists was called Ghost Tower-can’t remember the Japanese name atm-and I haven’t finished reading but it portrays multiple LGBT+ characters. There are a few questionable things including the way we find out about the main character being trans is through nudity (I know, it really annoyed me and kinda gave me dysphoria but) and is slightly sexualized by the covers, but other than that the actual content is pretty amazing
Try Ranma 1/2, author later went on to make Inuyasha. Male protagonist transforms into a girl by getting splashed with water. Situational comedy heavy, 90's shonen vibe. As to the nature of the "trans-ness", I'm sure it's up for debate.
@@ficklebar If someone asks for anime with trans representation and you give them an anime where A: the fact Ranma switches genders is something that's almost exclusively played for laughs and B: the trans-ness is "up for debate" maybe you shouldn't be reccommending that anime.
U.S. Sailor moon censors: How do we censor this lesbian relationship Other U.S. Censor: what about not just a lesbian couple, but lesbian incest U.S. Censor: Yup that’s better.
Pretty sure CLAMP's multiverse is canon. I never quite finished XXXHolic & Tsubasa, but once they linked the Clow stuff (including Cardcaptor Sakura) with the greater CLAMP Campus universe (X, Tokyo Babylon, CLAMP Campus, etc), that pretty much cinched it. Maybe mythological stuff like RG Veda and Shirahime are outside, but everything original connects in one way or another. (I think even Clover is supposed to be part of the "robotics" timeline with Chobits and that toyetic one with the battle-bot toys.) [Edit: Angelic Layer]
@@lovesoderpalm1555 Yup! They didn't do the mech designs in Geass (Sunrise, makers of Gundam, have plenty of in-house talent for that). But Rayearth and Clover have good examples of CLAMP in full-out mecha sci-fi mode. (The robots in Chobits and Angelic Layer are more human-looking, so I didn't mention them, but that's their work as well.)
So...Bananafish wasn't on the list cos it's sad?! Best anime in recent times and- Okay, no ranting on the internet but that omission is super disappointing. Other than that, great video as always :) And Given! How could you leave out GIVEN?!!!
Love Stage is the only one that I can add to the list that wasn’t previously mentioned. I kinda like it, but the, uh, I’ll just say it, assault-ey beginning of that relationship does hinder my enjoyment of the show somewhat.
I'm also kinda disappointed the blonde one with glasses turned out to just be a cis man that can pass for a girl really well as opposed to a trans woman.
I don't really agree with the representation the main couple gives. Granted I haven't seen/read it in a long time so I don't remember how their relationships changed and developed. Gotta give brownie points for the brother's relationship with the manager though because I honestly loved the two of them so much (it's canon in the manga and they have their own scenes but they were cut from the anime- i assume for time)
I feel like I should mention Princess Jellyfish. The male lead loves to dress in drag and feels completely normal and confident in it. The show also addresses self confidence and the animation is wonderful
In one of the latest manga chaps, Kobayashi and Tohru have what is basically a date and in the end, she tells Tohru that she does quite in fact *like* her and well is shown that there is some attraction towards her as shes also blushing while she says that.
Yet another signal boost here too. It's unfortunate that it can be pretty hard to find good ace representation, or even just something as simple as support or recognition. Makoto Sunakawa from the anime My Love Story!!/Ore Monogatari!!, the best friend of the lead character just seems happy to be the aro ace third wheel to the adorable titular love story. I don't know if I was just projecting, or if Utena of Revolutionary Girl Utena has some asexual vibes too... she doesn't want to just fall in love with a prince, she wants to be a prince.
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. has an ace main character. The only other one I know isn't an anime, but is a great lgbtq manga series with an ace character, called Our Dreams at Dusk: Shimanami Tasogare
The censorship in the American Sailor Moon bothered me so much, they even changed some of Haruka's lines to make it appear that she had a crush on Mamoru
I'm 50 seconds in and it's my favorite demonetized episode of GITR, thus far. I'm assuming it's demonitized. I'd like to ask for a video delving into why there's so much incestuous attractions in anime, but tbh I'm kind of burnt out on relationship based episodes for the moment.... plus there may not be a good explanation for it...
The quick answer would be that incest is not illegal in Japan (generally at least. Don’t know about specifics though). However, I think a lot of series prove that something not being illegal doesn’t mean that it is immoral. And, you can definitely see that there is a lot of hesitation when those relationships start to form. -Adrian
I think a lot of it has to do with POV from a young girl's perspective. It feels horribly wrong considering the actions of the man, but that's not the point - it's about wish fulfillment for young girls fantasizing about older men, which obviously can't be fulfilled IRL.
I remember I was watching Cardcaptor Sakura on vrv and I suddenly heard the English cut out and I look to the screen and I saw it was the scene where Sakura figured out Sharon's crush on yukito! So at least the vrv English version kept it!
Oí Kobayashi loves her Tohru even formed a great family with her, its just as she said in her own words '' not used to being wanted, Thats never happened to her before'' wich is very sad...
What are your opinions on Love Stage? It was one of the first BL I watched and I think it did a good job of knowing boundaries (yaoi wise). After Ryouma did...certain indecent things to Izumi, they didn't just go, "Welp, I guess we're a lovey-dovey couple now.". Ryouma heavily apologized and Izumi told him that he didn't feel the same way feelings-wise, but they could still be friends. I'm not saying what Ryouma did was okay, but the show knew that. They let the characters develop a strong friendship which turned into more, later on, which for me, made everything more meaningful than most other yaoi anime. The show also had the subtle incorporation of Rei and Shougo's relationship. As cheesy as some people may think this show is, it will forever be in my Top 10.
Like people have already said, Given has great lgbt rep. It portrays the relationships between the main cast beautifully and heartbreakingly well, and shows how one can heal after losing a loved one (which I feel is especially important considering one of the author’s inspirations for writing Given in the first place was Banana Fish, which... you know how that went. I’m still bitter) For an even more recent example though, I’d recommend looking into Hoshiai no Sora (Stars Align) which is looking to be a very promising anime for many reasons, one of the biggest being it recently revealing a male lgbt character right from episode 2 (out of 3 episodes so far!), having a crush over one of the other male characters - which was immediately understood and normalized by the main character, who treated it like any other person would treat a straight crush. There’s also very nice representation in the cast in general. There is recent controversy over the ED though which was a pretty bad move on the staff’s side but I’d advise you to look past that because the show is much more than that.
Jessie and James are bi icons who give no f*cks about gender roles and I aspire to be as awesome as they are!
Roni Finn Same.
Bicons if you will. ayyyy
Roni Finn No they’re not tf
Ballerz24 Are you ten? Seriously, everyone knows they’re Bi.
Nils Hughes just because you aren’t in an LGBT relationship doesn’t mean you’re not LGBT.
"Anytime i saw Jesse in a suit or James in a poofy dress, i never thought of that as something that didn't make sense, i just accepted that was who they were".
By far the best thing said in this video and i 100% agree.
The sad thing is that “female character in traditionally masculine clothes” is not generally controversial and, in fact, it’s often portrayed as very attractive, only a male in traditionally feminine clothing (or as a Scotsman an article of clothing some might mock as looking like feminine clothing) is considered worthy of scorn.
Jake C she’s 100% right
I thought it was a joke
@@AnimeOtaku2 is k for woman to wear jeans. Guy can't wear dresses
To be honest I never question it
Paradise kiss.
1. canon Bi male character George
2. Isabelle canonically transgender male-female character
Both are treated as normal and respected.
That's what I like about Paradise Kiss. The characters heavily involve in story, but being bi and transgender don't defy them.
I really love how fabulous Isabelle is
Paradise Kiss is amazing. Hope everyone watch it.
Isabella is a trans woman.
@@fandomgaymertransgirl2.0 that's what I said genius
‘Course, there’s room for stories ABOUT being LGBT+, but there’s also room for it to be treated as set dressing
Carole and Tuesday gets bonus points for WOMEN WITH NOSES.
We can always trust on Watanabe's works when it comes to character design, they are full of personality.
Unfortunately it loses those points for the transphobia.
@@ravenfrancis1476 huh? are you referring to Angelica's mom? i don't quite remember, but i don't think it was condoning transphobia...I mean I could be wong
Fernando Siqueiros Here’s a hint: if your only depiction of trans people are villains and/or the punchline to a joke, it’s transphobic
DAwwweewWWw MAayunnn! Now I have to rewatch the series to pay attention to every woman with a nose!!! How sucky
so they preferred the characters be Incestuous before lesbian ... yikes.
Every other country's version of censorship made so much more sense than America's. They are still my OTP though (Sailor Neptune is my favorite sailor guardian).
Haha, no matter how much they tried to change the dialog to go with the whole "cousins" angle, the looks they gave eachother and body language that was animated was just too intense. Also, I mean, Haruka was ALWAYS flirting with Usagi/Serena, how the heck does anyone explain that away?
Can't you marry your cousin though in Japan?
@@PGOuma I...THINK that's a thing but it's also not socially acceptable I believe.
I'd have to Google it but I also don't want to have to delete my browsing history XD
@Davin Gilbert Truue
“We’re cousins”
SWEET HOME ALABAMA!
*wheeze
the void is nice Do you even listen to the song? That is NOT what the song is about. That is like saying I Shot the Sheriff is about a mass shooter, which is not.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 I guess they're just using its meme notoriety.
Luis Morales, have you ever heard of a joke?
You're a legend
Could you imagine if they tried that kind of censorship with No.6? "I'm kissing my bro goodnight, Nezumi"
Coco Loco
they’d just throw in a beam of light. 🤷🏽♀️
Or replace the whole scene with a hug
That would honestly be awkward to watch of it was censored
Syaoran actually comes out to Sakura in one episode. His attraction to Yukito was one of the most charming and progressive aspects of the show, but this is rarely mentioned
IKR?! I just get so angry about how EVERYONE forgets to mention that
@@shoranputo5474 the coming out ??
@@zusuky03 about Shaoran crush for Yukito. I believe it was a big aspect for the character
Do you know what episode?
I thought Syaoran was attracted to Yukito because he could feel Yukito's magic.
I didn’t know I was bisexual until my adult years, and looking back at my early anime watching days, I can definitely see my favorite male characters were just disguised crushes.
Same, late bloomers, for me it was at 17 after realising I had a crush on my best friend but had a boyfriend at the same time, and also right before I started watching Kobayashi
Same, but for girls. I'm not really out yet but admitting it makes so many thing make sense
i just came out as pan at 17, never knew what the word for me was
I found out a little earlier. And some of my favorite female characters, I realized, I had crushes on too.
I'd like to add that Maddie Blaustein (the first voice actor for Meowth on pokemon and other 4kids content) was a transgender woman and apparently 4kids was 100% cool with that and even gave her female roles after her transition (yes 4kids was still flawed regardless)
@@ChaosSwissroIl actually I think it's because of the same contract situation as the rest of the Pokemon cast being replaced. And maybe because she did pass a few years post transition :(
apology89 4Kids also used actors of a different gender besides just Meowth (Nyaasu), whereas it was originally voiced by a woman who sounds more like a cat, while in English it was voiced by a man who labeled himself as a woman. Gary (Shigeru) was voiced by a woman in Japanese, and by a man in English.
IIRC she actually came out because of a Meowth-centric episode.
Personally I love Sylveon as the unofficial trans pokemon.
apology89 omg I just searched her up and and passed away
@@yahyeet2203 I think it was related to the stomach
Well in Japan, all-girl high schools have a popular phrase (translated): “when all the boys are gone, the girls become lesbian”
I wonder if thats the same with all-boys schools lol
nico nightmare I’ve heard it’s more fights than anything but yeah also couples
When a submarine goes down for a months long deployment, 60 men go down, 30 couples come up.
Connor Harris so basically they become homiesexual
@@user-we4kf5xm5u If they only do it on the sub are they homosubual?
Rebecca Sugar: LGBT censorship? Heheh... *_Not on my watch._*
_Cyrusis _ Especially in the Ed Edd and Eddy doujin
Ÿė ye
Rebecca Suger: A mustache let's put HER IN THE DRESS.
Also Rebecca Sugar: *Art consistency? NOT ON MY WATCH*
@@diegobrando2750 Ouch
I wanna put Given on the list for wholesome bl anime
yessssss
Daniel Vi Britannia yup
Yes yes yessss!!
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I see she didn't mention them on purpose...
love that lily from zombieland saga is a trans girl, and the fact that it inst focused on is kind of nice because its like "hey these people exist and that's that" and as a trans woman myself it was just very nice and reassuring
I still dont understand how Lily was revealed to be Trans
Nothing in the show, tht I recall, hinted at it
Only thing was tht Lily had the name, Masao (a boys name; plenty of women hav masculine names) b4 dying.
Unless the author of the manga confirmed outright.
FYI Im not being transphobic; im just trying to find out where this info was confirmed, of the character.
@@Daigon95 The whole point of that episode was the reveal that Lily was a "boy" and the shock of discovering that she was going through masculine puberty is what killed her. The rest of the girls even have a discussion later about it when they find out that Lily was not born a girl. (And basically settle on "it doesn't matter, all that matters is how she identifies.") They never outright say the word trans, but it was still very very obvious.
I remember there being an obnoxious conversation going around when that episode aired about whether she was actually trans or just a "trap", because some people were adamant there's a difference, but I've never seen anyone suggest that the idea they were trying to convey is anything other than that Lily was not born a girl.
@@Zeik56 hmmm I guess the wording and implications were altered, when I was watching Funimations dub.
Yes I dont like watching subs unless its a last resort. lol
idk its been a good few months since I seen the show, and I was never hinted towards Lily being born a boy. (probably bc, like I said above with the altered translation maybe)
When I saw this pop up all over Rule 34 and hentai manga, I honestly thought, "I guess they just prefer Lily being a boy for their Trap hentai or whtever"
Never thought it was actually canon and Lily was trans. lol
@@Daigon95 I actually remember watching it and one of the girls implied that it didnt matter what private parts she had or something along those lines, at least in the spanish translation
Erin Ebsen Since that show is a reference to how singers are treated in the idol industry or by major labels, what happened to Masao is like how child stars were abused physically and mentally by their parents, managers, and Hollywood. Kind of like what happened to Gary Coleman, Macaulay Culkin, and others.
"Bi-dentity" is an awesome word that I'm using from now on.
^^^ THIS
God Bear are you Bi?
@@baconmacon5553
Well let's just say I like my coffee like I like my men. 😏
I don't like coffee. 😂
Why not *Hetero-flexible*
💖
2:29
**Shows Kirishima and Bakugou.**
Lovely. I-I can't even say anything about this it's just amazing.
Its interesting just how often obvious subtextual hints are thrown in that they are in a romantic relationship... small things like an interest in holding hands, shy exchanged glances, clothing purchases for a partner, jacket lending, and such... it's enough that a total aro-ace like me thinks its obvious (that it's way more than just platonic best friends, as I would normally ascribe to to dude friends in a shounen show). I wonder why it is that a big name shoujo manga of the '90s like Sailor Moon could feature leads who were lesbian, but why Shounen Jump won't let a pair of male leads to be out. I suppose you have the cultural context of Neptune & Mercury modeling the widely-accepted-but-taboo relationship seen in traditional Takarazuka musical theater, vs the more generally taboo relationship hinted at between Kirishima and Bakugou. Maybe as we approach the end of the story we'll get an indisputable canonical reveal.
@@BeastGuardian
You see this human?
I love em'
Lmao I said the same thing
@@BeastGuardian The sub voice actor for Bakugo openly said he thinks Kirishima is the one for him so I realllllllly think there is a chance. And taking BNHA Smash into consideration and that they og author did have a hand in writing some of it and has acknowledged it, the only reason I find for them to not have a big reveal at least on the end of Kirishima's sexuality is to avoid reactionaries getting upset, but being just revealing enough so that people who are paying close attention can see whats going on.
@@BeastGuardian maybe is just fan service, like the roof scene with detective Ichijou and Yusuke Godai in Kamen rider Kuuga or the libra house warming with Andromeda Shun and Cygnus Hyoga in Saint seiya.
That cousin stuff in SM didn't fool me when I was little. I knew they were together and figured they weren't actually related, but I couldn't figure out why the eng dub would lie to me haha
Because cousin-lovin is more acceptable in some circles than lady-lovin. 'Murica! (And yeah, that BS applies in "cosmopolitan" coastal cities as much as any rural areas.)
BlackSheepNara same here lol
Mandisa W at least it didnt claim they were from kentucky lol
Same! It was sooooooooo freaking obvious! 😂
The Shadow Realm was one of the best things that ever happened to Yu-Gi-Oh.
Alyson Moon it was 4Kids best censor to date
i had no idea it was a change until today lol
It's is the worst censorship ever...that is why is the best. It failed soo bad in being less...that it ended up being something scarier. ~~really just have the kid be religious,and the shadow realm sound way more scarier then death~~
Extroier gamer plays the shadow realm sounds beyond horrifying haha
you mean longest running meme?
5:37 wait, the Shadow Realm wasn’t a thing? It was just the censorship of DEATH?! I thought it was supposed to be a fate worse than death 😭
Same the shadow realm sounded horrifying to me as a kid as it's more of a place where your soul would be forever trapped instead of being to go free.
And it's not like anyone dies in Disney movies die, right?
Just like with the incestuous sailor scouts, these censorship attempts are actually making everything worse xD
“Although they are cousins”
Don’t do it
Don’t do it
Sweet home...
ALABAMA
*A L A B A M A*
*C a l i f o r n i a*
Little Galaxy Cat What the?
@@duxhunt Yes
You guys should've spelt it "kweer" so UA-cam doesn't demonetize this ;)
We have a whole list of words for what will get demonetized. But, it’s not worth the censor!
Dude I see you everywhere
@@GetInTheRobot I honestly respect that. Censorship is bad in any form in my opinion, nice to see people not give in.
The struggle is real
@@LivefromBooYork trans ladies are called women and trans men are called men :P simple as that.
Adrian is prob my fav cast member and I feel more deeply connected to him despite never seeing him
Ckk 312 ❤️
Your name sounds like a planet name
"There's no way to censor the Sailor Starlights"
Okay BUT! I had a friend who grew up with the show's Italian dub and she once informed me that they censored it in Italy by having it that the Starlights were the Male versions 'Twin Sisters' that they would go call for help when they were needed.
Unfortunately me and that friend aren't really on speaking terms anymore so I can't confirm if I'm just remembering wrong T_T
The Italy trivia is actually a true fact.
WHY TOONAMI DIDN'T THINK OF THAT
You remember right sir!
Now is a good time to speak with him/her again. Now u have a reason. A video reason.
FUN FACT: Toga is actually Bi
Really?
@@sakuraflower640 She is actually pan.
@Riso Its actually cannon! :)
@Riso It has, indeed, been confirmed.
Riso *cough cough* spectrum *cough cough*
The fact I see no JoJos on this list (Specifically my favorite couple Tiziano and Squalo from Golden Wind) is disappointing.
One of the main Rules of JoJos is the gayer/ more androgynous the characaters are the stronger they are.
lol dude yes. I personally avoid both romance & lust entirely when it comes to myself, straight or otherwise, but I adore and greatly appreciate seeing it in others. So seeing couples with really good dynamics makes my heart happy. Also everyone in Jojo manages to be both as masculine & feminine as possible simultaneously and I love that so much.
It didn't get a proper adaptation until now though, and she's talking about old censored anime.
@@Topunito it could have still been interesting hearing her talk about how in old scans they censored the relationship between sorbet and gelato tho, saying that they were only REALLY close friends jddkfgk
I also love the outward display of emotions such as sadness and friendship in Jojo.
@murdoc’s literal wife there's no changing Araki's words or Dio's actions in Part 3.
And it's a shame that Steven Universe and other cartoons are ALSO censored when it comes to LGBT+ action
It's fine you get the representation. But not everything should be about lgbtq. Anyways it's a cartoon for kids, we know how much kids absorbed from just seeing things. Worldwide census are pretty much straight from what I know. So why should it be going full-on LGBTQ? Maybe if you need the show to fulfil your needs for a lgbtq representation maybe it's never in you to begin with. I know they world will all come to this. It's nothing we can run from but I know in the end there will be peace. Anyways I hope you have a good day. Don't worry on the wrong things. 😊
@@azizanputra It's absolutely the right thing to worry about. Kids might be LGBT+ as they might be straight and cis, and having media representation is important so they can know they are perfectly normal, feel accepted and realize they can accomplish things even when inserted in a, most often, homophobic society. I WISH everything would be LGBT+, as most things have always been straight, but they aren't. And I wish people like you wouldn't try to keep pushing false symmetry as if being openly LGBT+ and having LGBT+ characters is wrong or harmful. :)
@@shadow4040 people shouldn't be hated, ostracized and killed based on fantasy. Religion is fantasy and should not dictate anything outside the lives of the ones who choose to believe.
@@onionypeach6304 *glances over at Ruby* Yeah...
@@onionypeach6304 that's disrespectful to straight up say religion is fantasy. If that's your belief, fine, but do not state it as fact. Many LGBTQ+ people are still religious
They changed them to cousins without changing any of the subtext. That's straight up hilarious XD
People really be sleeping on doukyuusei, that's so sad.
It's not as implicit as yuri on ice and has actual kissing that is not censored, it shows a realistic relationship with a slow build-up and the animation and voice acting is GREAT
Also i read the original manga and spoiler alert!
they get engaged! ^^
@@nicomoist5336 do u follow the manga series? cause they're in a pretty painful transition rn lol
the current volume is called blanc
@@_verdeng ooh thx for the recommendation!
*Series:* "Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune are together!"
Awww. That's sweet!
*Series:* "And it's because Sailor Uranus has both the qualities of a man and a woman!"
O-okay. Stop drilling, you hit oil.
*Series:* "And she can switch between the two whenever she wants so that it's okay..."
STOP!
Wait I must clear something up.
Haruka is always a woman. Sailor scouts only can be woman.
@@an8202 In the manga she was introduced as a man and even appeared in a Tuxedo Mask-esque costume.
It was also explicitly stated that she had qualities of both men and women, that wasn't subtext at all.
Haruka is a intersex bigender icon and WE STAN
the author was trying to write her as a butch lesbian, but she didn't know the proper terminology.
I died at “You are worthy of my grace” 😂🤣
It means "I like you".
Keane Waah They probably didn't translate the rest of the show. "Koui ni ataisuru yo" can be translated that way. They could use "I love you as a friend" for "Sukitte koto sa."
In the manga Shinji is definitely bisexual.
So done telling people how that isn't censorship
I love seeing this pop up in every episode of theirs about LGBT themes
When I was a kid I had Sailor Moon on VHS and I thought the "Cousins who Loved Each Other" was a cultural thing from Japan that might not have translated well. I didn't realize that was wrong until I was a teen and I heard what they actually were to each other from people who had watched the Japanese dub.
UPDATE [Sunday/20191006]:
The Canadian Anime "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" had two adult female characters (Lyra & Bonbon) proposing each others with wedding rings simultaneously (onscreen).
-> Their wedding will be implied (offscreen), with their honeymoon travel & wedding dresses (onscreen) in the final episode of the series to be released on USA [Saturday 20191012].
Oh! I knew they were a couple! Glad to know it's gonna be acknowledged! Even if without a wedding on screen yet...
Yes to that end note: How could you forget GIVEN!!!
It has such good representation, characters and the MUSIC!! I honestly cried with it! one of the best of the year for me (and that a lot since we've had pretty good series this year.)
Also, will anyone EVER please talk or remember The Rose Of Versailles, you know ,the one that inspired many of the series you mentioned here like RGUtena???!
GIVEN is also getting a movie . according to people who read the manga the movie will go more indept with the relationship between haruka [ ponytail guy idk if thats his name ] and akihiko im looking forward to it
OMG ROSE OF VERSAILLES!!!!! IT NEEDS MORE RECOGNITION!!!
I'm sad that Given wasn't included, too. I also think they should have included Doukyuusei.
Sailor Moon: the leather bdsm season
Pfff. Dom wannabes at most. I've seen more serious leather bdsm in a 50 Shades trailer. 😋
@@quentindevlay3359 You should keep looking then because 50 shades is the farthest thing from BDSM.
@@sita1993m r/whoosh
Speaking of Pokémon, a female Azurill has a 50% chance of becoming a male Marill due to different gender ratios. 25/75 to 50/50.
pfwahaha nice spotting, I mean I am 100% sure they didn't think about it and it's just because they already had the ratios for Marill, but still amazing, that anyone would even notice ^^
Dorrie: *Talking bout anime *
Screen: *Shows Kirishima and Bakugou *
Hitoshi Shinsou SCREEEEEEE we stan (≧∀≦)
My favorite ship in the show
@@noodle13_91 We stan the lesbian queens.
It’s not even censorship in a lot of these examples, it’s erasure
censorship is erasure.
And erasure is one form of censorship.
@@infinitemultiverse520 censorship still acknowledges it's existence, erasure seeks to pretend it doesn't exist
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow That's your opinion. I respectfully disagree.
I cannot tell you how happy I am to live in a time where anime is receiving well crafted, intriguing critical response videos, and I get to watch and share them. Thanks for another great video!
Before we cheer about how far we've come, I'd like a minute of silence for poor Shun being remade into a girl in the upcoming Saint Seya reboot, because pink Cloth I guess. 😒🙄
Because a soft spoking, caring and not so violent male is bad for kids, I guess?
Tomoyo and Sakura were second cousin, since their mothers were first cousins, now... it was pretty obvious Tomoyo's mother had a crush on Sakura's mom, what's the thing with cousins?
I don't know, probably because they are people the same age that you hang out with a lot because your parents make you, but you are not siblings, more like friends, so you try stuff together. That's how I've seen it a lot irl
Well, they also had a minor and a teacher being a het couple... even as a kid I thought that was a little...
@@mariniendoh9109 Rika and Terada? They were never a couple in the anime, it was just a one side crush, the manga in the other hand...
@@Cloverfr maybe it was censored in America, but in the dubs of my country (at least on UA-cam) didn't censor any of the relationships in the anime, there was an episode where Sakura was confused (abt Syaoran I think?) And she met Rika by chance and ended up asking for advice cuz she was able to confess to the teacher, after some heart to heart Sakura thanks her and while leaving she asks what she was doing there alone and Rika answers she's waiting for someone, right after Sakura left Tarada appears, he's like "was that Sakura?" And then asks Rika if he left her waiting (I think there were more details, but this is getting long). Kid me watching this: •__• ???
Edit: just some spelling adjustments
@@mariniendoh9109 The relationship was censored in the anime, I grew with the spanish version with no censorship , there is no explicit reciprocal relationship, while in the manga he openly proposed to her, and gave her an engagement ring, thing that never happened in the anime.
9:17 clearly, they would pretend the male forms and female forms are twins
oh god your so right they totally would
@@FMAxEdwin twins who mysteriously just know the other's lives exactly
Or they'd say, they called their sisters for help.
Magicalkat1 🤣🤣
That was what Italy briefly did with them.
Im not entirely sure if he is ace but ‘the disastrous life of saiki k’
He's totally ace
ok but being ace isnt lgbt
@@helptheresbatseverywhere what do you think the A is for? if it aint straight or cis it's LGBT+
@@helptheresbatseverywhere Being ace is definitely LGBT+
@@winterscott1512 there is no A my dude. The acronym ends at lgbt its not some alphabet soup. You can literally be cis and heteroromantic and be ace therefore it is not inherently lgbt.
Not to mention that those were lilies (in the CCS confession panels), a flower often used in Japanese media to indicate FF relationships/love
yeah the word 'yuri' translates to lily
So, I just finished rewatching Ouran High School Host Club, and while it still means a lot to me in how it shaped MY bi-dentity as a teen, it.. really hasn't aged well in some respects? I love Haruhi's dad for being canonically out as bi, but in both the dub and the sub that I found, both him and other characters use the word "t****y" to refer to either his job as a drag performer, or some general form of genderfluidity. And while Benibara still makes me SWOON, at the end of the day she is still portrayed as the predatory lesbian villain, and not a character in her own right.
I got my hands on the manga though, which is a lot more explicit - while in the anime Haruhi seems more indifferent about being a host, maybe finding it interesting, in the manga she seems excited about the prospect of being swooned over by girls, heavily hinting that she's not completely straight.
Thanks for also reminding me to watch Revolutionary Girl Utena!
It's been a long time since I read (or watched) Ouran, but regarding Haruhi's dad, my understanding is that (A) they used a term that is more connected to his job than his sexuality, and (B) Japan has a very different relationship with all flavors of gender-transgressive expression (among men, at least). There are scholarly books and documentaries about what is considered acceptable as a profession, versus personal sexuality, versus public gender expression, versus socio-political rights. Haruhi's dad never gets quite enough exploration as a character to really get into any of it, and honestly, I don't know how much the author even knew (or was able to include) about it, but you can look it up if you're interested.
Mandisa W Hey, that is interesting! I always figured that they were never using t****y as a slur and more just a descriptive word, but it always seemed like an awkward choice for the English dub and sub. I’m hoping that the more I read the manga, the more will be explained, in true Shojo Beat style there are loads of notes in the boarders of the pages explaining the context of Japanese phrases, words, translations etc. Thanks for pointing that out, will definitely be doing some research!
@@tabpanter5750 A lot of the terms used about and among LGBT people in Japan are in flux, just like in the US. So it's not all that odd that the expressions used in Ouran - in either language - are out-of-sync with modern usage.
i can see how the story hasnt aged well and certain terms dont translate well, although i personally disagree about Benibara. i know the lobelia girls were presented as the villains, but in the comedy, it really seemed to me like they were just a similar group from another school, and i really liked that they werent just the host club but girls :p idk im probably overthinking it, i just really love those gals haha
Haruhi’s dad is an Okama if I recall. They entertain people just like hosts but they dress up as women. The term t****y doesn’t translate it well.
You forgot the one anime gayer than yours on ice
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Me, a proud Sailor Moon Fan: *Sees Sailor Uranus in thumbnail*
Me: *Clicks on video*
Paradise Kiss has some interesting bi representation, especially the fact that the coolest, second most important character is a bi guy.
My 8 year old self was pretty aware that Yukito and Toya were a thing and that Tomoyo was in love with Sakura and I grew up to be a very functional adult, thanks to the Spanish dubs.
You're bi?! My gosh, you're gonna make a girl (or a boy) very happy some day :)
Ikr, she's so sweet.
idk how to put this. But watching/listening to Dorrie gives me the same feeling as watching Steve from Blues Clues
Ikr
One thing I found really about Utena is that in the sub she uses boku to refer to herself. Which adds to how she views herslef since its usually used by males
When you hear that they said it was a lesbian relationship in sailor moon but technically Sailor Uranus identifies as being neither male or female in the original Japanese manga that the anime was based off of.
I have a gender non-conforming friend who identifies as a lesbian too, though... I'd say saying Sailor Uranus is in a lesbian relationship is as close as you can get, since the character is not real and can't say what they identify as...
Still lesbian, or sapphic
4:21 "¡¡Yo soy James el guajolote Marcias!!" Some people might get the reference.
Ahí, madre!
Te mamaste guey
A man of culture
Para extender nuestro reino hasta la vecindad del chavo del 8!!
Miau así es
In the Cardcaptor Sakura Spanish version, Touya even says to Yukito: I LIKE YOU.
I love how kirishima and bakugo are there too
Me: *Sees Kirishima*
Me: Oh, how nice!
Me: *Sees Bakugo a few seconds later*
Me: I like where this is going.
I really enjoyed the anime NO.6 it's a bit of a tragedy but in the end, I think it's still a good story.
You should check out banana fish if you want your heart broken but a good story
The manga ending is much MUCH better
@@mode9200 For No.6 or Banana Fish?
@@Mara_1337 No.6
Hope we get a CLAMP multiverse video. I need to know I’m not alone lol
YOU’RE NOT ALONE MY SWEET CHILD
HELLO FELLOW FRIENDS
@@shoranputo5474 HEWWO!!!!
Ouran high school host club! Is amazing, when it comes to LGBT+ representation, the main character literally states that they don’t care about gender as a whole and that a person is a person no matter what gender they are! Honestly haruhi made me be happy as the non binary person! Also the fact that all of the male characters found haruhi attractive even when she did look like a boy and even when they didn’t know she it a boy!
I'm so happy that I read the Card Captor Sakura manga when I was little! It had the original story, names and intentions. I'm not sure HOW accurate the german translation is but I definetley noticed the things between Touya and Yukito as well as Tomoyos feeling.
What they did to the anime in america really is a war crime
Every time I think about "cArDcApToRs" I cry
It was quite strange. The people behind the localization were given the task of making it set in a generic USA town and to retarget the audience to boys ages 8-12. KidsWB was hoping for a new Pokemon phenomenon. I really do not understand why they felt the need to change the setting, as Digimon did quite well for Fox Kids without attempting to change the setting (deriving easy English nicknames from the kids' original japanese names). The push to make Syaoran Li a more equal main character, rather than focusing on Sakura as the lead, was a very confusing one, they ended up editing the original 70 episodes into a 39 episode series to try to match that requirement. The production companies involved feared that they would be attacked by conservatives if the show was too japanese or had anything that was vaguely homosexual and feared that they wouldn't sell enough toys to boys if it seemed like the show was just about a girl. Well, when it was first released, the religious and cultural conservatives attacked KidsWB because the Clow Cards looked too much like tarot cards ^^;. Maybe they shouldn't have worked so hard editing everything out...
@@BeastGuardian im.really glad i never saw that version xD
I can’t believe best girl flipped off best girl
I wish there was more transgender woman and men characters in anime and manga. The only manga I read that was close to having a transmen character as lead was called, damnit I forgot....... it but was good manga though. We need most transmen characters.
One good manga with a trans male character as one of the protagonists was called Ghost Tower-can’t remember the Japanese name atm-and I haven’t finished reading but it portrays multiple LGBT+ characters. There are a few questionable things including the way we find out about the main character being trans is through nudity (I know, it really annoyed me and kinda gave me dysphoria but) and is slightly sexualized by the covers, but other than that the actual content is pretty amazing
Zombiland saga has Lily, a trans girl
Try Ranma 1/2, author later went on to make Inuyasha. Male protagonist transforms into a girl by getting splashed with water. Situational comedy heavy, 90's shonen vibe. As to the nature of the "trans-ness", I'm sure it's up for debate.
There’s Our Dreams At Dusk.
@@ficklebar If someone asks for anime with trans representation and you give them an anime where A: the fact Ranma switches genders is something that's almost exclusively played for laughs and B: the trans-ness is "up for debate" maybe you shouldn't be reccommending that anime.
U.S. Sailor moon censors: How do we censor this lesbian relationship
Other U.S. Censor: what about not just a lesbian couple, but lesbian incest
U.S. Censor: Yup that’s better.
English sailor moon be like:
*SWEET HOME ALABAMA*
Clamp world seem like a awsome world 😁. Beside the whole having to save the world every second year
Well, it's not too different than the real world, just that it is a duty we should all try to fulfill.
Pretty sure CLAMP's multiverse is canon. I never quite finished XXXHolic & Tsubasa, but once they linked the Clow stuff (including Cardcaptor Sakura) with the greater CLAMP Campus universe (X, Tokyo Babylon, CLAMP Campus, etc), that pretty much cinched it. Maybe mythological stuff like RG Veda and Shirahime are outside, but everything original connects in one way or another. (I think even Clover is supposed to be part of the "robotics" timeline with Chobits and that toyetic one with the battle-bot toys.) [Edit: Angelic Layer]
Mandisa W Wasn’t code geass character designs also made by clamp?
@@lovesoderpalm1555 Yup! They didn't do the mech designs in Geass (Sunrise, makers of Gundam, have plenty of in-house talent for that). But Rayearth and Clover have good examples of CLAMP in full-out mecha sci-fi mode.
(The robots in Chobits and Angelic Layer are more human-looking, so I didn't mention them, but that's their work as well.)
So...Bananafish wasn't on the list cos it's sad?! Best anime in recent times and- Okay, no ranting on the internet but that omission is super disappointing. Other than that, great video as always :)
And Given! How could you leave out GIVEN?!!!
We filmed this before Given blew up. Haha, although, I do make a mention at the very VERY end.
2:29 this just proves that kiribaku might as well be cannon
6:41 at first I heard "sailor yuriness"
I am so sorry xD
_Bodacious Space Pirates_ - Lots of Yuri in there and everyone just acts like it's normal.
Rewatching that is interesting when you know two of the girls are an item before it’s explicitly shown.
And it has a fantastic opening theme!
@@namewithheld8115 I like the end theme.
Love Stage is the only one that I can add to the list that wasn’t previously mentioned.
I kinda like it, but the, uh, I’ll just say it, assault-ey beginning of that relationship does hinder my enjoyment of the show somewhat.
I'm also kinda disappointed the blonde one with glasses turned out to just be a cis man that can pass for a girl really well as opposed to a trans woman.
@@ravenfrancis1476 I mean crossdressers would like some recognition too. It doesnt HAVE to be just trans.
Vin Sama Well yeah but trans people are represented significantly less than cis crossdressers
I don't really agree with the representation the main couple gives. Granted I haven't seen/read it in a long time so I don't remember how their relationships changed and developed. Gotta give brownie points for the brother's relationship with the manager though because I honestly loved the two of them so much (it's canon in the manga and they have their own scenes but they were cut from the anime- i assume for time)
@@ravenfrancis1476 umm love stage is a YAOI so I don’t think it would make sense for the mc to be trans woman
The familial relationship between Sakura and Tomoyo is a bit complicated, but their mothers were cousins.
I was just thinking about Steven Universe when she Talks about it .-.
Also- The creator (Rebecca Sugar) is Non-Binary!
Bringing up Utena is good.
Not mentioning the Pixar Cars ending of the movie is greater.
Can we get a colored "Get in the Robot" symbol on a colored t-shirt plz 🙏. I don't like wear white clothes. They get dirty too fast.
Lemme run it by our graphic designer! We’ll try to make something work!
I feel like I should mention Princess Jellyfish. The male lead loves to dress in drag and feels completely normal and confident in it. The show also addresses self confidence and the animation is wonderful
Wait Dorrie! Miss Kobyashi does reciprocate Tohru's feelings in the Valentines Day OVA! Don't give up! The ship has sailed!
Ehh... sort of. Read volume 5 of the manga for some real proof. (At least, that's what the wiki told me...)
In one of the latest manga chaps, Kobayashi and Tohru have what is basically a date and in the end, she tells Tohru that she does quite in fact *like* her and well is shown that there is some attraction towards her as shes also blushing while she says that.
"How could you forget.." Mizuki's straight forward affections toward kei in ef: a tale of memories?
Nicholai baylog My heart, it hurts. -Adrian
Nicholai baylog My heart, it hurts. -Adrian
Need a list of ace characters and anime ...
HoshiSanada Signal boost!
Signal boost^2
Yet another signal boost here too. It's unfortunate that it can be pretty hard to find good ace representation, or even just something as simple as support or recognition. Makoto Sunakawa from the anime My Love Story!!/Ore Monogatari!!, the best friend of the lead character just seems happy to be the aro ace third wheel to the adorable titular love story. I don't know if I was just projecting, or if Utena of Revolutionary Girl Utena has some asexual vibes too... she doesn't want to just fall in love with a prince, she wants to be a prince.
I would love to see ace/aro representation at a time like this.
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. has an ace main character. The only other one I know isn't an anime, but is a great lgbtq manga series with an ace character, called Our Dreams at Dusk: Shimanami Tasogare
"CLAMP started out by making yaoi doujin"
Oh no
Did you lay this egg
2:29 is the best part of this entire video
I thought you would talk about Doukyuusei and Sarazanmai because they were in the intro 💔but I still enjoyed this video :)
Bi-dentity speaks to my soul
The censorship in the American Sailor Moon bothered me so much, they even changed some of Haruka's lines to make it appear that she had a crush on Mamoru
They showed kirishima and bakugou when talking about LGBTQ+ representation in anime my life is complete
I'm 50 seconds in and it's my favorite demonetized episode of GITR, thus far. I'm assuming it's demonitized.
I'd like to ask for a video delving into why there's so much incestuous attractions in anime, but tbh I'm kind of burnt out on relationship based episodes for the moment.... plus there may not be a good explanation for it...
The quick answer would be that incest is not illegal in Japan (generally at least. Don’t know about specifics though). However, I think a lot of series prove that something not being illegal doesn’t mean that it is immoral. And, you can definitely see that there is a lot of hesitation when those relationships start to form. -Adrian
I think a lot of it has to do with POV from a young girl's perspective. It feels horribly wrong considering the actions of the man, but that's not the point - it's about wish fulfillment for young girls fantasizing about older men, which obviously can't be fulfilled IRL.
Thank you for mentioning Carole and Tuesday! LOVE that show!
Nailed it. Balance achieved. Keep beep-booping and crushing on Tuxedo Mask
I remember I was watching Cardcaptor Sakura on vrv and I suddenly heard the English cut out and I look to the screen and I saw it was the scene where Sakura figured out Sharon's crush on yukito! So at least the vrv English version kept it!
Thanks for mentioning Dragon Maid
I can only recommend GIVEN as a BL anime.
I'm not sure whether it's targeted at LGBTIQ (there are several LGBT characters), but I like it.
And they were cousins..!
*And they were cousins...* ;)
2:29
I legit screeched when I saw that one scene from the Two Heroes movie
good lord I need to stop
Hellish Ashe same
@@trash_gremlinn YES
I’m a very simple man. I see “Get In The Robot” uploaded a video, click, see Dorrie and smile.
Oí Kobayashi loves her Tohru even formed a great family with her, its just as she said in her own words '' not used to being wanted, Thats never happened to her before'' wich is very sad...
Do you think the anime will continue because of the whole you know
Akenaton Ghallard I never liked the show. It's perverted. Being perverted is not love, that's gross.
I was thinking Ouran High School Host Club XD
What are your opinions on Love Stage? It was one of the first BL I watched and I think it did a good job of knowing boundaries (yaoi wise). After Ryouma did...certain indecent things to Izumi, they didn't just go, "Welp, I guess we're a lovey-dovey couple now.". Ryouma heavily apologized and Izumi told him that he didn't feel the same way feelings-wise, but they could still be friends. I'm not saying what Ryouma did was okay, but the show knew that. They let the characters develop a strong friendship which turned into more, later on, which for me, made everything more meaningful than most other yaoi anime. The show also had the subtle incorporation of Rei and Shougo's relationship. As cheesy as some people may think this show is, it will forever be in my Top 10.
"Crystelle, this one is for you, baby!"
C L O C K E D
Like people have already said, Given has great lgbt rep. It portrays the relationships between the main cast beautifully and heartbreakingly well, and shows how one can heal after losing a loved one (which I feel is especially important considering one of the author’s inspirations for writing Given in the first place was Banana Fish, which... you know how that went. I’m still bitter)
For an even more recent example though, I’d recommend looking into Hoshiai no Sora (Stars Align) which is looking to be a very promising anime for many reasons, one of the biggest being it recently revealing a male lgbt character right from episode 2 (out of 3 episodes so far!), having a crush over one of the other male characters - which was immediately understood and normalized by the main character, who treated it like any other person would treat a straight crush. There’s also very nice representation in the cast in general. There is recent controversy over the ED though which was a pretty bad move on the staff’s side but I’d advise you to look past that because the show is much more than that.
I prefer every shonen ever. Clearly the undying love and tension is so obviously there it can't be argued against.