I think when you love a thing, you want to know more about the thing. Fans want to know what made the creator of their media into that person. Sometimes you learn something that is terrible, sometimes it is delightful. As a middle schooler, I learned that Scott Stapp was out of control, and I stopped digging deeper. As an adult, I can't stop learning more about comic book creators. I love the crazy, the drama, the eccentricity, the motivation. Read up on the guys from the Golden Age. They were crazy and hard working. Fletcher Hanks, Victor Fox, Will Eisner, Harry Donenfeld, Carmine Infantino...
If you truly love comics and are a serious collector, you are very likley to be deeply interested in writers, artists and the history / production of comic books. If you consume comics for little more than entertainment then you're unlikely to be interested. When great art and great creative writing is recognised (and celebrated) as being essential ingredients for great comics, then a genuine interest is typically developed. Its the difference between a thinking reader and a consumer.
I'm an artist and I know the work of many illustrators. Its not important to know all about an artist, but knowing their art background can give you an idea about why somebody does the work the way they do.
Agree with what you’re saying. When I read a comic or go to a concert, I’m trying to take a break from real life. If I want opinions on politics or world events, I’ll go to CNN or Daily Wire.
This is an interestin subject, with many ramifications, but I am gonna try to linger on some of those based on your points. 1. You assume everyone has a good family tree to pull back from and learn, that might not be correct, and fir those alienated drom their own physically or emotionally, entertainment, for better or worse, is an escape, one that can emotionally connect and teach. With the time, many of us can connect so deeply with a product that we want to know more, or even as creators we just want to know the path it took to a creator in other to reach their goal (more for ondependent endeavours). That one point also make me realize that you somewhat was focusing on superheroics, because people might also want to know just the process for an author to get his creations out, rather tjan the output they put on a know IP licensed by a megacorporation. And in this part I agree witj you in the product side of things, were many, many people just want good product, not needing to know more (example, you dont always ask the background of the chef in your favourite dinner or fast food restaurant), but is the choice of the customer, student, or person, in what they want to delve into, when approaching to a favorite creator, or a creator of his favourite stories or products. Have a nice weekend all.
This is a tough one. While I agree that sometimes learning more about artists turns you off on them because they are assholes (I've experienced this first hand), sometimes their stories can be fascinating. So it think it depends on the creator.
I'm torn on this. On one hand, i don't try digging too far in someone else's life. However, you can unintentionally find little nuggets here and there. I'm a baseball fan and i think it's cool that Todd McFarland was a semi professional baseball player before he began making comic books. Just food for thought 🤔.
Some creators are interesting, but social media has bombarded us with too much info. It has turned me off of most of them. The creator of the Crow as an example, interesting.
Two sides. Personally I don't care, unless they have built up a substantial amount of work that I love, but ... if someone makes a fascinating video of course you can be satisfied/intrigued/entertained as they have created something worthwhile in itself.
You are not wrong. I don't mind a creator interjecting their beliefs in their creation. But when the story ends, so does the interaction. They are not my friend, they are someone who entertained me. I never thought about how we get more invested in them than we do our own families. This was a very interesting topic. Thank you for making this point!
It's definitely a fine line. I try to just enjoy the art and writing as it is. It's an escape for me. I do enjoy learning about where they've come from, what inspires them and who are their influences. That said, I also don't want to financially support bad people. People who are mean, rude to fans, instigate hate, belittle others, etc. Obviously don't want to support people who have committed crimes. Separating the art from the person isn't always easy. Outside of comics, but still in the nerd realm, I loved the books of David and Leigh Eddings (The Belgariad, Malloreon, etc) as a kid. Much later I learned that they were convicted of child abuse of their adopted children in the 70s. I haven't been able to read their books since.
Writer/artists/creators- I like some, not all, based on either fantastic artwork, or that story that grabbed me and it was the best one I read at that time in my life. Some artists are terrific IMO no matter what story they're illustrating. Todd is a good artist & he does nice action figures, but I know he's all about the money too. There's a lot of "creators" like that. I value Stickygoose's opinions, because they make me think in a different way, that's why I tune in as well.
I love video games mainly rpgs. So I wanted to know the history behind sony, sega, nintendo, microsoft and so on. Same can be said for tv shows that may have behind the scenes info whether its drama or how the cast came together. So knowing about your favorite comic creators is no different.
Being a comic book UA-cam comment creator, I want to share the story behind this comment. I was listening to you while watching Tate McRae shaking that thang on TikTok while holding back burps from all those deviled eggs I ate last night. My foot has been tingling all morning, probably from diabetes.
Needed content is epic or famous comic runs like Miller's Daredevil run etc. New collectors will not know this info. Professional career history and work on other books will inform of other books to buy by the same creators that are less known.
As a new collector of comics again people have changed like I entered another multiverse so I enjoy watching creator interviews because it gives me a look a who they are and that can save me a whole lotta money.
I enjoy most of StickyGoose’s content and I genuinely care about him as a person because he is a nice guy. I don’t agree with him on everything - but in all situations, I’m able to separate the person from the content. Also, I enjoy hearing opinions that I don’t agree with all of the time. It helps to make me a more well-rounded individual who can see things from another’s point-of-view. Shouldn’t we all strive to understand things from different perspectives?
Ethan Van Sciver was never 'cast out for his beliefs'. His contract wasn't renewed because he couldn't meet deadlines and wouldn't stop harassing people, mostly other creators, online.
what people always do is put them celebrities up on that pedestal because they have glossy cover eyes over them and don’t realize that the celebrities they put on them perfectly pedestals are just normal people nothing to special about them. But it’s just that one thing that person did or created has connected with that person in a big way in their life and they just sort or put value in those celebrities over the real relationship of people in their life’s. It’s a wild concept for some people to even comprehend because they are stuck still with glossy starry, covered eyes.
There are some comic creators worthy of an after career biography… Kirby, Miller, etc. yet beware… some of my favorite creators are actually crappy people in real life… such as Frank Miller who was a complete $hit bag to his ex-wife Lynn Varley…or John Byrne…who has always treated fans and the public like scum…yet I love most of their work.
Comic story noob. The more I know about the creatives the less I want to know (Mark Waid best example). A writers name on a book will sell me a book or put me off one. Even my fave writers have had bad days. Alan Moore Killing Joke, Frank Miller All Star Batman, Grant Morrison Xmen. If I see Alex Ross name on a book I will pick it up based upon previous books he has collab on that I have read. Those books seem to be thought provoking, beyond just mere fun. EVS comes across like a performative Heels Wrestler. I buy his older DC stuff Green Lantern and Flash Rebirth stuff. I am more keyed into artists now, but they don't sell me a book alone (beyond Alex Ross) it's the writer. If I can't seperate the art from the artist/company I buy pre-owned. The reseller gets the coin that being said 98.03% of my comic collection is pre-owned.
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I was reading a fun and interesting 2019 DC Halloween comic last evening when it suddenly dropped a derogatory Trump comment - it immediately took me out of the story. Keep your damn politics out of comics.
@@uglyewok6715 Thanks for your feedback. Would you care to share your reasoning on why you believe that I am wrong? I’m guessing that you won’t - or can’t provide any reasoning. Prove me wrong. I like to be challenged.
I think when you love a thing, you want to know more about the thing. Fans want to know what made the creator of their media into that person. Sometimes you learn something that is terrible, sometimes it is delightful. As a middle schooler, I learned that Scott Stapp was out of control, and I stopped digging deeper. As an adult, I can't stop learning more about comic book creators. I love the crazy, the drama, the eccentricity, the motivation. Read up on the guys from the Golden Age. They were crazy and hard working. Fletcher Hanks, Victor Fox, Will Eisner, Harry Donenfeld, Carmine Infantino...
If you truly love comics and are a serious collector, you are very likley to be deeply interested in writers, artists and the history / production of comic books. If you consume comics for little more than entertainment then you're unlikely to be interested. When great art and great creative writing is recognised (and celebrated) as being essential ingredients for great comics, then a genuine interest is typically developed. Its the difference between a thinking reader and a consumer.
Without writers and artists there would be no comics.
I'm an artist and I know the work of many illustrators. Its not important to know all about an artist, but knowing their art background can give you an idea about why somebody does the work the way they do.
Agree with what you’re saying. When I read a comic or go to a concert, I’m trying to take a break from real life. If I want opinions on politics or world events, I’ll go to CNN or Daily Wire.
This is an interestin subject, with many ramifications, but I am gonna try to linger on some of those based on your points.
1. You assume everyone has a good family tree to pull back from and learn, that might not be correct, and fir those alienated drom their own physically or emotionally, entertainment, for better or worse, is an escape, one that can emotionally connect and teach. With the time, many of us can connect so deeply with a product that we want to know more, or even as creators we just want to know the path it took to a creator in other to reach their goal (more for ondependent endeavours).
That one point also make me realize that you somewhat was focusing on superheroics, because people might also want to know just the process for an author to get his creations out, rather tjan the output they put on a know IP licensed by a megacorporation.
And in this part I agree witj you in the product side of things, were many, many people just want good product, not needing to know more (example, you dont always ask the background of the chef in your favourite dinner or fast food restaurant), but is the choice of the customer, student, or person, in what they want to delve into, when approaching to a favorite creator, or a creator of his favourite stories or products. Have a nice weekend all.
This is a tough one. While I agree that sometimes learning more about artists turns you off on them because they are assholes (I've experienced this first hand), sometimes their stories can be fascinating. So it think it depends on the creator.
You’re 100% correct.
I'm torn on this. On one hand, i don't try digging too far in someone else's life. However, you can unintentionally find little nuggets here and there. I'm a baseball fan and i think it's cool that Todd McFarland was a semi professional baseball player before he began making comic books. Just food for thought 🤔.
Some creators are interesting, but social media has bombarded us with too much info. It has turned me off of most of them. The creator of the Crow as an example, interesting.
Two sides. Personally I don't care, unless they have built up a substantial amount of work that I love, but ... if someone makes a fascinating video of course you can be satisfied/intrigued/entertained as they have created something worthwhile in itself.
You are not wrong. I don't mind a creator interjecting their beliefs in their creation. But when the story ends, so does the interaction. They are not my friend, they are someone who entertained me. I never thought about how we get more invested in them than we do our own families. This was a very interesting topic. Thank you for making this point!
I think people want other people to relate to. People wanna know that other people struggle like they do especially.
It's definitely a fine line. I try to just enjoy the art and writing as it is. It's an escape for me.
I do enjoy learning about where they've come from, what inspires them and who are their influences.
That said, I also don't want to financially support bad people. People who are mean, rude to fans, instigate hate, belittle others, etc. Obviously don't want to support people who have committed crimes.
Separating the art from the person isn't always easy.
Outside of comics, but still in the nerd realm, I loved the books of David and Leigh Eddings (The Belgariad, Malloreon, etc) as a kid. Much later I learned that they were convicted of child abuse of their adopted children in the 70s. I haven't been able to read their books since.
agree
Writer/artists/creators- I like some, not all, based on either fantastic artwork, or that story that grabbed me and it was the best one I read at that time in my life. Some artists are terrific IMO no matter what story they're illustrating. Todd is a good artist & he does nice action figures, but I know he's all about the money too. There's a lot of "creators" like that. I value Stickygoose's opinions, because they make me think in a different way, that's why I tune in as well.
I love video games mainly rpgs. So I wanted to know the history behind sony, sega, nintendo, microsoft and so on. Same can be said for tv shows that may have behind the scenes info whether its drama or how the cast came together. So knowing about your favorite comic creators is no different.
Being a comic book UA-cam comment creator, I want to share the story behind this comment. I was listening to you while watching Tate McRae shaking that thang on TikTok while holding back burps from all those deviled eggs I ate last night. My foot has been tingling all morning, probably from diabetes.
Yeah bro they make pills for that it will be fine
Needed content is epic or famous comic runs like Miller's Daredevil run etc. New collectors will not know this info. Professional career history and work on other books will inform of other books to buy by the same creators that are less known.
As a new collector of comics again people have changed like I entered another multiverse so I enjoy watching creator interviews because it gives me a look a who they are and that can save me a whole lotta money.
I enjoy most of StickyGoose’s content and I genuinely care about him as a person because he is a nice guy. I don’t agree with him on everything - but in all situations, I’m able to separate the person from the content.
Also, I enjoy hearing opinions that I don’t agree with all of the time. It helps to make me a more well-rounded individual who can see things from another’s point-of-view. Shouldn’t we all strive to understand things from different perspectives?
Modern creators yeah I literally don’t give a shit about them. But the old timers is completely different.
Ethan Van Sciver was never 'cast out for his beliefs'. His contract wasn't renewed because he couldn't meet deadlines and wouldn't stop harassing people, mostly other creators, online.
what people always do is put them celebrities up on that pedestal because they have glossy cover eyes over them and don’t realize that the celebrities they put on them perfectly pedestals are just normal people nothing to special about them. But it’s just that one thing that person did or created has connected with that person in a big way in their life and they just sort or put value in those celebrities over the real relationship of people in their life’s. It’s a wild concept for some people to even comprehend because they are stuck still with glossy starry, covered eyes.
Matttt has great videos
I heard They/Theminem plays overwatch too.
Can you separate the person from the art or ability? Michael Jackson? OJ?
They might play Magic the gathering though?😜
There are some comic creators worthy of an after career biography… Kirby, Miller, etc. yet beware… some of my favorite creators are actually crappy people in real life… such as Frank Miller who was a complete $hit bag to his ex-wife Lynn Varley…or John Byrne…who has always treated fans and the public like scum…yet I love most of their work.
Can I get a Sticky Goose autograph?
Me
Comic story noob. The more I know about the creatives the less I want to know (Mark Waid best example). A writers name on a book will sell me a book or put me off one. Even my fave writers have had bad days. Alan Moore Killing Joke, Frank Miller All Star Batman, Grant Morrison Xmen. If I see Alex Ross name on a book I will pick it up based upon previous books he has collab on that I have read. Those books seem to be thought provoking, beyond just mere fun. EVS comes across like a performative Heels Wrestler. I buy his older DC stuff Green Lantern and Flash Rebirth stuff. I am more keyed into artists now, but they don't sell me a book alone (beyond Alex Ross) it's the writer. If I can't seperate the art from the artist/company I buy pre-owned. The reseller gets the coin that being said 98.03% of my comic collection is pre-owned.
U don't care about Anthony Kiedis and his girlfriends that get younger and younger and younger as he gets older?😂
6:33 TOP ARTIST of mine, a troubled youtube sticky soul
A true wandering Artiste of a GENERATION !
With Artists 99/100 are terrible writers
+ 99/100 times they are too cheap to hire a writer, so the indie book scene can never get books that deliver A-Level art + story
+ I Would like to see you efap this video, who fooled you, who did not from a hairless UA-cam Sensation ! guy has two videos on the subject
Musicians That Wear Wigs | Controversial Truth rockstars Zach Adkins
Wait a minute, people read tom King comics?
Wait! There is people actually creat this crap??? I just buy them cause they look cool
I was reading a fun and interesting 2019 DC Halloween comic last evening when it suddenly dropped a derogatory Trump comment - it immediately took me out of the story. Keep your damn politics out of comics.
Comics have always been political - and the creators’ personal perspectives have always been reflected in them.
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@@uglyewok6715 Thanks for your feedback. Would you care to share your reasoning on why you believe that I am wrong?
I’m guessing that you won’t - or can’t provide any reasoning. Prove me wrong. I like to be challenged.
7:48 AMEN 🙏
I wish you watched your own videos and took your own advice.
I literally talked about that in the video
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Who cares about comicbook creator's.. comicbook creator's mothers.😅. And of course the tax man..