Going After Gandhi: A Perverted Purity

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  • @KnowingBetter
    @KnowingBetter  6 років тому +2636

    I say this at the end of the video, but for those who are already commenting: Many of the arguments I use here are the same ones used to attack Columbus; and many of the defenses used for Gandhi are dismissed when talking about Columbus. These two videos are a pair, designed to get you thinking about historical good guys and bad guys and how we fictionalize them both.

    • @majorD01
      @majorD01 6 років тому +27

      Thanks paul, really makes me think.

    • @77solsken
      @77solsken 6 років тому +17

      Do you have any more sources regarding Gandhi's hate for muslims/Islamophobia?

    • @halahmilksheikh
      @halahmilksheikh 6 років тому +15

      Why is Gandhi wrong in his observations? Is it because you feel that he is wrong?

    • @halahmilksheikh
      @halahmilksheikh 6 років тому +12

      PS people can tell when you delete comments. You intellectual coward ahahaha

    • @kaushikgupta9490
      @kaushikgupta9490 6 років тому +23

      Genghis Khan would be a great topic for future videos

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat 6 років тому +3859

    I have a poster of Gandhi up on the wall in my classroom. Now I will be taking it down. I mean, it's not like I did not know Gandhi was racist or did extremely inappropriate things, but goodness I just realized I need to stop singling out individuals as if they need to be glorified. I need to have posters that glorify ideas/ideals, not people.

    • @narayanansrinivasan6250
      @narayanansrinivasan6250 6 років тому +117

      He was quite ahead of his time. It's not like he invented racism, and he did manage to unlearn his views evidenced from him taking up the cause of untouchability (leaps ahead of his time). He's definitely a better role model than other powerful men* of his time -- most of them tyrants. But you're right; we're not in that time anymore so let's bring out the new posters. I recommend Peter Singer.
      Ninja Edit: typo in my excuse

    • @ppaaccoojrf
      @ppaaccoojrf 6 років тому +230

      +Atul Sharma
      You're completely ignoring his point because you're mad.

    • @jansprat4649
      @jansprat4649 6 років тому +8

      Read my comment to this "Knowing Better" fellow pinned above. The whole Racism charge against Gandhi for using the word "Kaffir" has been cooked up by the blacks. The truth about what the blacks and whites did to Indians over the last 300+ years will start coming out soon. This constant negative propaganda against Indians needs to end.

    • @Mrjmaxted0291
      @Mrjmaxted0291 6 років тому +8

      If you have any of Churchill you might want to take them down too, guy instituted a man made famine. Kind of lumps him in that rare famine club along with such illustrious individuals as Mao Zedong and Stalin.

    • @LukeCageforhire
      @LukeCageforhire 6 років тому +21

      Jan Sprat "the blacks" wow you're pretty dumb. Gandhi said it himself,. He's Arian. lol

  • @Kyle_Schaff
    @Kyle_Schaff 5 років тому +2139

    I understand Gandhi having monuments in India since he was a political giant for the nation, but having them in South Africa is absolutely absurd

    • @roccopiosaracino3681
      @roccopiosaracino3681 5 років тому +61

      There's a ghandi's statue in GHANA

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +132

      Gandhi is a disgrace to India because he didn't do anything expect make Indians look bad by his racism. Hitler liberated India by bankrupting the British Empire.

    • @SamvedIyer
      @SamvedIyer 5 років тому +44

      @@barbatvs8959 Hitler didn't. Subhas Chandra Bose did, by being the final nail in the coffin.

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +19

      @@SamvedIyer Nazis bombed London. Bose didn't even come close to taking down the British. You are quite deluded.

    • @SamvedIyer
      @SamvedIyer 5 років тому +23

      @@barbatvs8959 Not directly. Indirectly.
      Read "Bose or Gandhi: Who Got India Her Freedom?" by Major General G D Bakshi. You'll get my point.

  • @AmethystEyes
    @AmethystEyes 5 років тому +1059

    I saw a school art project once that had Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. shaking hands... it’s really awkward walking past that now. 😬

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +11

      Because tie-wearers are noose-wearers? I have a dream, that mankind will see how stupid that tie tradition is.

    • @AmethystEyes
      @AmethystEyes 5 років тому +41

      BARBATVS 89 tie? What does that have to do with what I said?

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +3

      @@AmethystEyes Methinks MLKJr wore a tie. It represents a noose.

    • @OttoGraff-fu8pj
      @OttoGraff-fu8pj 5 років тому +41

      BARBATVS 89
      Wat?

    • @MrCococda
      @MrCococda 5 років тому +28

      They’re both pretty flawed characters. Ones a racist ones a sexist.

  • @ALu-nq8rf
    @ALu-nq8rf 5 років тому +2994

    Can you cover mother Theresa in a similar manner? I've read...unsavory things regarding her patient care.

    • @rangv733
      @rangv733 5 років тому +28

      @@SaraH-jn5db Your sources?

    • @notallopinionswerecreatede4465
      @notallopinionswerecreatede4465 5 років тому +200

      @@SaraH-jn5db She wasn't vile per say; she just cared only for the Church and it's "mission".

    • @sambeck2510
      @sambeck2510 5 років тому +293

      @@SaraH-jn5db Not really, you gotta think of historical figures in the context that they lived in. Getting people to convert to Christianity was more important than healing them, because treating their spiritual ills was more important than treating their physical ills.
      If your view is that the soul last for eternity but the flesh lasts temporarily, and you have limited resources - then you yourself would try and tie these together; let me treat your spiritual woes and I'll treat your physical woes.
      She wasn't vile, she was just operating under a different moral preset than modern people.

    • @petertomov5728
      @petertomov5728 5 років тому +33

      @@sambeck2510 *some modern people

    • @ppaaccoojrf
      @ppaaccoojrf 5 років тому +23

      @@petertomov5728 most modern people

  • @pioneeringtech1592
    @pioneeringtech1592 3 роки тому +270

    Bro I am an Indian and u made a Great Video on the sides of Gandhi kept away from us in History textbooks .... U deserve 1.3 Billion likes

    • @hyhena-gaming9986
      @hyhena-gaming9986 2 роки тому +4

      You can condemn me for this poor excuse of a joke
      Will that give him enough karma to become a Brahmin caste?

    • @dynamitebsb4520
      @dynamitebsb4520 Рік тому +1

      He was racist first, cause he was educated from western University. Then he changed after the train incident. It opened his eyes

    • @Т1000-м1и
      @Т1000-м1и Рік тому +1

      This kind of comment is rare to find outside Eastern Europe

  • @georgejoseph3316
    @georgejoseph3316 4 роки тому +832

    This was an eye-opener. As an Indian, I always felt there was something really off about him. Now I know why.

    • @shimantohassan1414
      @shimantohassan1414 3 роки тому +32

      You shoulda said, Now I know better ! :P

    • @calm1tbh
      @calm1tbh 3 роки тому +7

      Well as a Canadian, I like him even more now.

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 3 роки тому +7

      @@AownAli-xi8jq Because he helped India fuxk up the brits and motivated them (he wasn't the main reason I know but he was a big motivation) and brits colonized Canada and I don't think anybody likes being colonized.

    • @g.w.f.212
      @g.w.f.212 3 роки тому +15

      @@BatCostumeGuy lmao come to india and ask for yourself what a lot of people think about the dude

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 3 роки тому +2

      @@g.w.f.212 Your point?

  • @SG-to4mf
    @SG-to4mf 5 років тому +2100

    1.3 bn dislikes? Seriously? You think Indians dont know their own history?
    Well you think right :/

    • @ishanbajpai6940
      @ishanbajpai6940 5 років тому +37

      I think he deserves all the dislikes one can get, but looking at the comment section it seems like he has been teaching to the choir. This video was trash and a literal abuse to Mahatma Gandhi's legacy.

    • @alex-made2225
      @alex-made2225 5 років тому +291

      @@ishanbajpai6940 how so

    • @CEO_Of_Racism-fk3qv
      @CEO_Of_Racism-fk3qv 5 років тому +265

      @@ishanbajpai6940 Ghandhi was a racist and didnt even acheive his goals

    • @ishanbajpai6940
      @ishanbajpai6940 5 років тому +28

      @@CEO_Of_Racism-fk3qv It is Gandhi, not ghandhi.
      Plus, he achieved 100x times whatever anyone on this comment section did or would ever achieve.
      If you don't actually study history then please shut the fuck up.

    • @Akash123-u6p
      @Akash123-u6p 5 років тому +208

      @@ishanbajpai6940 actually u should learn history more than those learned from school. Wht u learned from school r pure shit... Do some research and then bark. Against others...just congress made him look better

  • @greywolf9341
    @greywolf9341 5 років тому +1677

    I commend you on your research and objective narrative
    We are all fed up with the glorification of Gandhi and Nehru in Indian histrory

    • @adityashirapure
      @adityashirapure 5 років тому +16

      IKR

    • @arhamshahid5015
      @arhamshahid5015 5 років тому +90

      Even I as a Pakistani didn't know he did this crap.our leader jinnah is portrayed as some new age borderline prophet but the dude drank alcohol owned dogs ,wore western clothes and couldn't even speak Urdu.admittedly he wasn't completely bag suit crazy like Gandhi.

    • @panzerofthelake506
      @panzerofthelake506 5 років тому +32

      @@arhamshahid5015 Gandhi was a conservative politician. Nothing more.

    • @starrix4712
      @starrix4712 5 років тому +19

      He was most likely a freemasonic agent for the British. Just look at what’s happened to India (yes it probably wasn’t entirely him, but he was a key part). Of course the greatest manipulators don’t need violence. They’re more sinister and cunning than that.

    • @fourhorsemenmechanix757
      @fourhorsemenmechanix757 5 років тому +32

      @@arhamshahid5015
      what's wrong with owning dogs? Also, what's wrong about not being able to speak Urdu?

  • @alex-sv8ru
    @alex-sv8ru 5 років тому +473

    Well you'll be surprised to see how many Indians, themselves, hate Gandhi.
    I'm Indian but born in England, and Gandhi was portrayed to me as this god-figure, the perfect human being.
    I went to India during my secondary education, and i always thought the last thing you should do here is speak negatively about the Father of the Nation, Gandhi. But surprisingly, when i questioned my friends about him, they all said they hated him! This was schocking to me.
    But it's true, Gandhi was not only creepy in his personal life (being racist against blacks, sleeping with teenagers), but he also halted India's independence, and his, and Nehru's role in the partition was terrible.

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +8

      Indians hating Indians is not surprising. Especially hating frauds like Gandhi.
      By the way, teenagers have reached puberty in most cases, which according to science makes them adults. Think for yourself. Your society's opinions are libtarded. That same society says Gandhi was noble.

    • @dropmelon
      @dropmelon 5 років тому +33

      @@barbatvs8959 According to science, humans are considered as adults when their brain has fully developed which is 25 years old.
      Puberty is only the first step to adulthood.

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +1

      @@dropmelon Brains always evolve. And many children are wiser than some adults. Compare Bush to you as an old child. Are you dumber than Bush? Make me laugh.

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +2

      @@dropmelon PS The brain is a SLAVE to physics so it is not the mind that is FREE to think. That's an atheist materialistic lie.
      Spirit thinks. The brain is equivalent to a video game controller, not the real player.

    • @dropmelon
      @dropmelon 5 років тому +9

      BARBATVS 89 I was only correcting what you said.
      In science, puberty is not considered as adult yet.
      25 years old is just the average age for people to fully grown their brain.

  • @Suibhne
    @Suibhne 6 років тому +1404

    Dat hair though

    • @luke13hako13luke13
      @luke13hako13luke13 6 років тому +3

      Suibhne great videos.

    • @ArcheryGuy510
      @ArcheryGuy510 6 років тому +7

      milo yiannopoulos hair

    • @highlander2319
      @highlander2319 6 років тому +1

      Suibhne love your vids

    • @paulmuszynski5138
      @paulmuszynski5138 6 років тому +6

      I paused at "People love..." and can only imagine that he's going to say "Blue hair" when I un-pause.

    • @BongSalvador
      @BongSalvador 6 років тому +12

      Is it bluish grey or greyish blue..🤔

  • @TagusMan
    @TagusMan 6 років тому +1055

    There's no moral grey area about that hair.

    • @TheFranchiseCA
      @TheFranchiseCA 6 років тому +36

      More of a case of orange and blue morality.

    • @fearsomestm00c0w
      @fearsomestm00c0w 5 років тому +20

      The parting is what bothers me but I have no suggestion as to how to improve it.

    • @-Minuano-
      @-Minuano- 5 років тому +10

      He lost a bet.

    • @missrockcantswim
      @missrockcantswim 5 років тому +1

      Got em

  • @pepforlffie
    @pepforlffie 5 років тому +195

    I learnt about Gandhi in school, now I realise that i didn’t actually learn anything!

    • @professionalbandit2696
      @professionalbandit2696 2 роки тому +5

      thats why history books should neber be taken seriously thary are always written by those who were powerful at that time

  • @PlainsPup
    @PlainsPup 6 років тому +373

    The "K-word" comes from Islamic Arabic; it means "infidel." It later became a loan word in Afrikaans as a racial slur.

    • @alexwright4930
      @alexwright4930 6 років тому +32

      Thought I'd heard that word used by Islamists too.

    • @edgyteenboi3635
      @edgyteenboi3635 5 років тому +9

      First sensible person found

    • @saadm1670
      @saadm1670 5 років тому +46

      @@alexwright4930 Islamists? it's a normal word mostly used for nonbelievers.

    • @wes6363
      @wes6363 5 років тому +4

      I have a friend who is an Arab Muslim and he used the word "Ab'd" which he didn't know I know what it means. Look it up
      PS he still doesn't XP

    • @thegoat-ishere4414
      @thegoat-ishere4414 5 років тому +2

      PlainsPup yea I know that word very well as I was called that all the time by my fellow friendly Muslims

  • @Themonarkable
    @Themonarkable 4 роки тому +42

    In late May 2020, this information is incredibly relevant to the people who claim that Gandhi’s protests were non-violent and he was successful. It puts him and his movement into a new perspective. Thank you for making this video.

  • @chelseabougard8536
    @chelseabougard8536 5 років тому +300

    I live in South Africa and we've covered Gandhi in history class many times, yet this video was wayy more informative :)

  • @thomasridley8675
    @thomasridley8675 6 років тому +505

    Gandhi was a very complex individual. If it wasn't for his help in freeing india, he would have been just a very strange mentally disturbed guru.

    • @lowkey9871
      @lowkey9871 6 років тому +47

      Ghandi didn't free India lol go do some research. Ww2 get a clue?

    • @SunnySide388
      @SunnySide388 6 років тому +37

      Thomas Ridley
      That's just something Indians spread, he had nothing to do with India's independence.

    • @alexanderchristopher6237
      @alexanderchristopher6237 6 років тому +27

      @@SunnySide388 Really? You do know that he was active in the free India movement during the interwar period. Also, he had been championing Indian rights in the empire since before the late 1800s in South Africa and India, his work even reached the eye of the folks in the UK themselves.
      Also, if it hadn't been popular support for Indian independence that he helped formed, India will not gain independence in 1947. Yes, it is a shared effort, but if he had no influence, why is he well-regarded by the nation not only after independence, but during WW2 and before? And why is he the face of Indian independence from that same time period?

    • @HSingh-rw1eg
      @HSingh-rw1eg 6 років тому +73

      @@alexanderchristopher6237 oh God. India owes its independence largely to Subash Chandra Bose. And he never got credit for it because he disagreed with Gandhi's views on politics. I believe India would have gained independence a long long time ago if it had not been for Gandhi and his willingness to cooperate with the British. He definitely had influence, but is absolutely overrated.

    • @thefakedeal
      @thefakedeal 5 років тому +8

      @@HSingh-rw1eg Bose didn't do shit

  • @SteaksOnSpear
    @SteaksOnSpear 5 років тому +197

    asking for independence during a war is a great idea, when the super power is occupied, they cant stop you.

    • @suvamkumarsarangi6593
      @suvamkumarsarangi6593 5 років тому +22

      Exactly

    • @prashuram8135
      @prashuram8135 5 років тому +15

      Say that to an Indian liberal lol

    • @SamvedIyer
      @SamvedIyer 5 років тому +15

      @@prashuram8135 No wonder the liberals hate Subhas Chandra Bose.

    • @uniquestufforpheus1943
      @uniquestufforpheus1943 4 роки тому +4

      Asking for independence not demanding it is a bad idea

    • @fourthinternationalist_1917
      @fourthinternationalist_1917 4 роки тому +9

      No, the Indians held very little power in comparison to the the powers which were fighting the war for the cause, so if they didn't fight for the British other powers might had invaded them.

  • @eemelilounela1212
    @eemelilounela1212 5 років тому +409

    Every historical character should be evaluated in their original historical context. This aplies to Gandhi and Columbus. This point was kind of made in the video, but wanted to make it clear.

    • @starrix4712
      @starrix4712 5 років тому +33

      But you’re assuming everyone was like that. In the future more advanced people will probably look back and think overall that most of us were whiny, violent, twisted and backwards too. In reality, that’s just too many people that gain a lot of publicity and support as this is a cold world. Often the better you are, the more of a minority you are.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 5 років тому +12

      He said Ghandi spoke modern English so there isn't much room for interpretation. I do understand what you mean about historical context for a frame of reference.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 5 років тому +2

      Why did the Indians not burn the hedge down that separated them from the salt?

    • @Elite7555
      @Elite7555 5 років тому +28

      That is okay in study. But when worshipping somebody as a hero today then you also have to judge him by today standards.

    • @Jake007123
      @Jake007123 5 років тому +34

      @@Elite7555 Very true, if you are gonna make someone a hero or a role model, then you have to test him against modern morals. Which is not the same as demonising them, obviously.

  • @saiprasad1413
    @saiprasad1413 6 років тому +330

    I'm Indian and I have been binge-watching your content over the last couple of days. I like your channel.
    About Gandhi: Your fear of a billion dislikes is unfounded. There is size-able and growing rabid anti-Gandhi sentiment in India (Especially the younger generation and the current establishment). But not for reasons you might think. He is perceived as having acquiesced to Muslim demands for a separate homeland without putting forth strong resistance. And I can't say that that perception is baseless. (In fact, that was the reason for his assassination at the hands of a fellow-Hindu)

    • @nikhiljain2637
      @nikhiljain2637 6 років тому +7

      Yes I think this is the true reason.

    • @the_Fisher_King
      @the_Fisher_King 6 років тому +12

      Yes, I totally agree. An additional point would be his notorious Poona pact in which he forced Dr B R Ambedkar to not take the communal awards for dalits

    • @anonymouswhatever4987
      @anonymouswhatever4987 6 років тому +10

      Sai J, very true. The younger generation of india understands and can sort out its own priorities. Gandhism forces us to act like cripples although we r not and undergo 'sanyas' although we don't want to. Thats why there is opposition otherwise who don't want peace ?
      Bloody gandhians like nehru hv supressed the expanse of our national honour by limiting india into an anti martial and all tolerant state. How countries like pak and bdesh and china dare to try offend india now ?
      Its bcoz of us sticking to the gandhian ideology and not trying to deviate from it.
      Extreme violence or extreme tolerance is not an option for india and it never was.

    • @user-vc6hx4ko1m
      @user-vc6hx4ko1m 6 років тому +12

      Sai J All agreed! But somewhere, we fail to realise that inspite of all his flaws and mistakes, the people of India got something that kept them united. Even if it was a tainted person like Gandhi, he was the binding force of the millions of oppressed people of India which lead to our independence.
      We can speak and debate as much as we want regarding his misdoings and perverted views, but all we will be doing is giving one less reason for our people to unite as a whole.

    • @pradyumnbhatt6187
      @pradyumnbhatt6187 6 років тому +9

      Gandhi didn't unite India for shit. The real credit for consolidation goes to The Iron Man of India

  • @suvamkumarsarangi6593
    @suvamkumarsarangi6593 5 років тому +234

    Aryan in Sanskrit means "intellectual society" (close but not accurate) not white brotherhood.

    • @suvamkumarsarangi6593
      @suvamkumarsarangi6593 5 років тому +38

      @Stellvia Hoenheim Excuse me but can you tell me I am racist towards which race ?😂😂😂

    • @akashekhar
      @akashekhar 5 років тому +31

      Aryan literally means those who belong to Arya-varta, which was what India (before any partitions, of course) was called back in the ancient days.

    • @anonymous2964
      @anonymous2964 4 роки тому +36

      @@akashekhar arya just means people with high morals, great scientific knowledge, and who are in the path of truth aka dharma. Bharatvarsh called aryavarta because of that. Arya isn't any race as told by false western historians.

    • @parthbonde2106
      @parthbonde2106 4 роки тому +10

      Ya but I think this video is saying that he implied Aryan in the way that European thought of it since he was writing to one

    • @alphamikeomega5728
      @alphamikeomega5728 4 роки тому +7

      He says the Aryans he's talking about are also known as the Indo-Europeans. We now know these people as the Yamaya.
      These people spoke the common ancestor language of English, Hindi, Latin, Greek, Persian, Russian, Gaelic etc. (known as Proto-Indo-European). Around 1900, people thought that this also meant people from Ireland to (northern) India were largely descended from these people. With modern genetics, we now know that the Yamnaya account for about 10% of our DNA.

  • @Boredman567
    @Boredman567 6 років тому +434

    Regarding Gandhi's racism vs. Columbus' racism:
    Our modern concept of race wasn't nearly as 'developed' in Europe during the Renaissance. I believe it was well into the colonial period, when countries relied more heavily on black African slave labor, that people saw race as more "important". I'd argue that western society was more racist in the year 1900 than it was in the year 1500.

    • @Jake007123
      @Jake007123 5 років тому +11

      Pretty sure ancient Romans, Greeks and others examples were very racist (although Romans not as much as anyone would think), but still well said.

    • @alexanderjohnson3014
      @alexanderjohnson3014 5 років тому +56

      @@Jake007123 Kinda? It was weird. At the very least, slavery was a very different concept during the Classical Period. There wasn't nearly as muhc of a racial connotation when it came to slavery or forced servitude as there was back then.

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому +7

      One of the conquistadors was Juan Garrido from the Congo, showing how nice Spaniards were to other races. Also, demographics prove that the Spanish did not commit genocide like the macro-evolutionist British tended to do. Most Spanish speakers are one hundred percent Native American as you can tell just by looking at them. The Black Legend, propaganda of Britain, has deceived millions into hating and belittling the great Spanish Empire the first to go around the world, and the first on which the sun never set. You enjoy chocolate because of my people, and there would be no British Empire nor US and thereby no youtube, without the Spanish expeditions and the conquest of América and beyond.

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому

      @lelennyfox34 Atheists preach that we come from these contrived subhuman proto-blacks like Lucy (a reference to LSD and both to Lucifer the author of the racist myth that a race can become superiour by isolation and evolution), yet try to say Christianity is evil even though it says man comes from Adam regardless of race meaning all races are intellectually equal.... and Christianity also says that some people have cursed their bloodline which is not the fault of the race but of the individual ancestor that God hated enough to curse that much. I'm not a Catholic. They are heretics who worship Mary as the "Queen of Heaven."
      I did a video called and delivering: "Proof Macro-evolution is IMPOSSIBLE."

    • @barbatvs8959
      @barbatvs8959 5 років тому

      @lelennyfox34 PS Do you believe races have equal intelligence? Do you belive in IQ? I did a video proving that that is racist pseudo-science. :-)

  • @MuteMusicalMorgan
    @MuteMusicalMorgan 5 років тому +102

    No lie, I was watching this video as I walked into my apartment building, and the guy in front of me recognized your voice and said "hey, I know that guy. Knowing better?" And I replied with "yeah, I just found his channel today!" And we exchanged a high five. :)

    • @rey4059
      @rey4059 3 роки тому +8

      ...And then everyone clapped

    • @realkekz
      @realkekz 3 місяці тому

      ​@@rey4059This isn't that crazy of a story

  • @akshatsrivastava4280
    @akshatsrivastava4280 3 роки тому +45

    While one might find his statements on Muslims racist-ish, I was surprised by your surprise at the fact that he wrote those things in a “pre 9/11” world “before the first suicide bombing,” that’s an agonisingly America centric view of an Indian figure.
    Muslims have lived here much before even Colombus’s voyage to America. There is no doubt that compared to the Indian religions, Islam is more aggressive and warlike. I’d like to clarify I’m talking about the values and doctrines, not individual Muslims.
    In that context, and the fact that the Muslim elite of that time had started to view themselves as closer to the Arabs, Persians or Turks because of the so-called ‘common Islamic connection’ being stronger than centuries of being part of Indian civilisation, his comments are not racist but criticism of a religion and the views held by the religious elite-as is acceptable in any modern society…I hope.
    The man was literally assassinated for being too pro-Muslim. He held prayer meetings where gods of all religions were prayed to, but that can only work so well when one religion recognises many gods and the other believes their god is The Only True God. So that went as well for Hindu-Muslim unity as you’d think.

  • @TaylorIserman
    @TaylorIserman 5 років тому +377

    I love that you pointed out Ghandi’s nuclear inclination in Civ 😂

    • @DaveMiller6042
      @DaveMiller6042 4 роки тому +7

      I honestly believe that it's actually impossible to talk about Gandhi and not at least mention his CIV self

    • @troyebeyonce
      @troyebeyonce 3 роки тому +3

      what does civ mean??

  • @animalia5554
    @animalia5554 6 років тому +45

    Who was it who said "There are no great men who are also good men?"

    • @anonymoussecret5948
      @anonymoussecret5948 5 років тому +2

      @@nikhilmannava22 i dont think that's the intended quote but still, the one you provided is a good one :)

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 6 місяців тому +1

      Honestly, Tolkien fulfills both!

  • @Octoberfurst
    @Octoberfurst 5 років тому +19

    Thank you for this video. I used to idolize Gandhi. My first introduction to him was through Richard Attenborough's 1982 film "Gandhi" which completed sanitized Gandhi and made him appear to be a saint. It made it seem as if he stood for civil rights for all and was always kind and considerate. In recent years I found out that was not true. He truly was racist and was also manipulative and arrogant. I can still admire him for pushing for non-violent solutions but I no longer consider him a role model.

  • @dub_works
    @dub_works 5 років тому +52

    Your comment about how ‘starting an independence movement during wartime is ridiculous’ makes sense out of context but it’s important to note that the British declared martial law in the Raj on the 29th of September 1939 and stripped all power away from the elected provincial governments to give power back to the British government in India. This was justified as a necessary measure to ensure the colony contributed the maximum amount to the war effort, however this did not sit well with the people. The British government’s detached way of running the nation led to famines in the past, and many other problems, and their mismanagement of food supplies would be a major factor in how devastating the Japanese invasion of Burma was to the Bengal region.
    Also, you said the British promised independence during the war and that was just a lie. They did send the Cripps mission in which a representative (Stafford Cripps) gave vague promises of future dominion status, but that was all, and this was really only to appease the Americans who were anti imperialism. To Indian officials in the 1940’s, fighting a war against fascists to uphold the dominance of the imperialists simply wasn’t justifiable. That was the reason for Quit India, and I will add that Quit India was not led by Gandhi or the Congress. It was so massive in scale that it was pretty much just led by whoever was around at a particular protest. It grew out of the control of Gandhi’s political group.
    The final decision to leave India was also only taken because the British literally couldn’t afford to pay the people they needed to run the country after being bankrupt by the war.
    Also, most of what you said about the All-India Muslim League wasn’t really that accurate and could definitely mislead some people.

    • @iprabhatvikas9750
      @iprabhatvikas9750 3 роки тому +1

      True man . Also , some points didn't make sense to me. Historically, form what I know, aren't untouchables basically a part of shudras ?The ones who cleaned and stuff. That's why they were "untouchables" because they were too "dirty" to touch or socialise

  • @Ricecooka
    @Ricecooka 6 років тому +739

    Totally laid down naked next to the subscribe button, but I couldn't resist touching it...RIP vital fluids

    • @DheerajBhaskar
      @DheerajBhaskar 6 років тому +18

      BokehDon haha this joke was masterful

    • @IamJenJen101
      @IamJenJen101 6 років тому +6

      OMG what a genius with words you are NOT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      His joke was better then your comeback man. What's your problem anyway?
      Edit: Fixed after @kiwii was kind enough to point out mistakes

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 6 років тому +7

      Perhaps he was touched by Ghandi as a child.

    • @chicagoliightsx
      @chicagoliightsx 6 років тому +1

      @@IamJenJen101 His* joke, your* comeback 🤦🏻

    • @IamJenJen101
      @IamJenJen101 6 років тому

      @kiwii oops, gotcha. Anything else lead editor?

  • @aneshia8675
    @aneshia8675 4 роки тому +59

    This is eye opening. And people love this man. What a world we live in.

    • @palmarum9634
      @palmarum9634 3 роки тому +6

      They don't love him in India also anymore. His political party is finished.

    • @professionalbandit2696
      @professionalbandit2696 2 роки тому

      yes he was a bloody racist and rapist

  • @kevinandyogeeta
    @kevinandyogeeta 6 років тому +455

    “history is written by the victors” - Winston Churchill

    • @napoleonbonaparte9249
      @napoleonbonaparte9249 6 років тому +62

      Kevin LaRocque Winston Churchill was a racist, drunk, and a fraud.

    • @thaddeuskyle572
      @thaddeuskyle572 6 років тому +89

      Napoleon Bonaparte I'd expect to hear that from Napoleon.

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 6 років тому +9

      Napoleon Bonaparte Ad hominem

    • @jimmylozano2378
      @jimmylozano2378 6 років тому +4

      Napoleon Bonaparte thats a lie and he even made a video

    • @napoleonbonaparte9249
      @napoleonbonaparte9249 6 років тому +32

      It's not a lie. Churchill killed thousands of Indians. That's a fact.

  • @christophertrout2508
    @christophertrout2508 6 років тому +12

    Dude you do not get enough views. Tremendous editing, calm voice, relaxing background music that isnt too high, and insane attention to detail. You also explain everything so well. I wish I had you as a history teacher in school

  • @kevinellis9533
    @kevinellis9533 2 роки тому +7

    "All of his pent up... power." 🤣 I just started watching your videos and I can't get enough. So informative, comical and fundamentally memorable. Thank you so much for everything you post for us, your viewers!

  • @OldmanXan
    @OldmanXan 6 років тому +15

    Good work. Thank you for going places others shy from.

  • @annaczgli2983
    @annaczgli2983 2 роки тому +4

    Wow. This was an eye-opener indeed! Thanks for this well-researched video.

  • @SamvedIyer
    @SamvedIyer 5 років тому +259

    The younger generation in India increasingly identifies with nationalists like Subhas Chandra Bose and great economists and social reformers like Dr. B R Ambedkar, who was once a student at Columbia University.

    • @barathivaasan5876
      @barathivaasan5876 3 роки тому +4

      Oh, the hypocrisy here

    • @aneesh7038
      @aneesh7038 3 роки тому +8

      @@barathivaasan5876 what's the hypocrisy?

    • @karwanekamran
      @karwanekamran 3 роки тому +5

      WRONG!! They identify with mass murderer and human rights abuser narinder modi, who is hindu extremist and nazi sympathizer
      Please stop spreading lies.

    • @ishikinokami1575
      @ishikinokami1575 3 роки тому +2

      Hey,aren't you a writer on Quora?

    • @potatoface1041
      @potatoface1041 3 роки тому +30

      Subhas Chandra Bose was also flawed, he actually allied with Nazi troops against the British rule. Moral is to not idolize anybody and be your own person.

  • @Tekrothebountyhunter
    @Tekrothebountyhunter 6 років тому +19

    I have long ago came to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a Good Guy and a Bad Guy...just people that are generally better or worse than others. All the heroes have an alterior motive, and all the villains have honest motivations. So we can't ever catagorize anyone as being one or the other, but we can judge for ourselves whether we are willing to love them for their qualities or hate them for their flaws.

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 Рік тому +1

      Except Anna Pavlova; She's a plain good girl.

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 5 років тому +98

    I was watching a video on the origin of Civilization's nuke-happy version of Gandhi.
    There was a comment war on whether Gandhi was a racist pervert or a saintly man. There was a lot of rage. I think someone called someone else a heretic over this.

    • @Redfungi164
      @Redfungi164 5 років тому +7

      WHO WENT AGAINST THE WORD OF THE EMPEROR

    • @m_uz1244
      @m_uz1244 5 років тому +17

      it's youtube comments, what do you expect? In fact, if "heretic" is the worst thing someone said to someone else then that comment section is one of the nicest political debate comment sections on this website.

  • @alexhennigh5242
    @alexhennigh5242 5 років тому +9

    This channel is amazing! I always thought I was at the very least semi-educated but here I am learning a metric fuck ton of new information in just a day of learning of this channels existence.

  • @Ghipoli
    @Ghipoli 6 років тому +398

    Great video!
    One thing I found especially interesting is the fact that 'Kaffir' was apparently an Indian slur for black people. In Afrikaans (That Dutch daughter language in South Africa) the most common racial slur for black people is (or was) "Kaffer", which also found its way to The Netherlands, where some have used the word "Kaffer" as the closest thing to "the N-word" in Dutch. Never knew that word had its origins in the Indian communities of South Africa.
    Edit: forgot to add, the word is also used as a non-racial insult in some regions. I didn't originally explain this because I didn't think of it as relevant.

    • @Ghipoli
      @Ghipoli 6 років тому +80

      So the word went from Arabic to Hindi to Afrikaans to Dutch... Damn.

    • @rahul-qm9fi
      @rahul-qm9fi 6 років тому +36

      Kafir in india is a term used by muslims to insult others you idiot

    • @jansprat4649
      @jansprat4649 6 років тому +6

      Ghipoli, This kind of media propaganda is nothing short of a criminal behavior and needs to be addressed. These videos are being made to pull in Indians to these videos and increase the number of hits. We have taken this up with Google to see how they are allowing such videos to monetize on such blatantly wrong propaganda. I have written a rebuttal to this moron to his pinned comment above. Its time to expose the reality of how Indians were treated by both Blacks and Whites. Read my comment above addressed to "Knowing Better" who ironically doesn't know any better.

    • @SpazzMatticusTheGreat
      @SpazzMatticusTheGreat 6 років тому +12

      Ghipoli Of course the dude talking about the Netherlands has a windmill profile picture.

    • @xecoq
      @xecoq 6 років тому +4

      Im Dutch and we definitely dont use that word.

  • @hide-zh4mz
    @hide-zh4mz 5 років тому +470

    Normies: No nut November
    Gandhi: hold my fluids

  • @dhawalsingh1071
    @dhawalsingh1071 3 роки тому +7

    As a citizen of India, I fully endorse what was said in this video, Gandhi was a shrewd man who only brought disaster whereever he went. We can all see the current state of Africa, that was only because people failed to criticize his viewpoints there but India is recovering for the nationalist didn't buy into his false ideals of non-violence which led to the death of millions of Dharmic people and resorted to just violence or else our current state would have been despicable.

    • @kingofrexdale8598
      @kingofrexdale8598 3 роки тому

      Thank you for being Honest and objective and not letting nationalism cloud your judgment sir ✅

  • @upandatom
    @upandatom 6 років тому +210

    This video is excellent :)

    • @CJ-ob2kv
      @CJ-ob2kv 6 років тому +1

      Up and Atom eyy

    • @kumarharsh6987
      @kumarharsh6987 5 років тому +1

      Except it has almost all the points half cooked, check my comment in the main thread if you want details

    • @rohittantia4020
      @rohittantia4020 4 роки тому +1

      He is lying, He is Biased, He is Clueless

    • @CoolMan-ig1ol
      @CoolMan-ig1ol 3 роки тому +6

      @@rohittantia4020
      All he said was very true. But we should never forget that he had a lot of positive sides too. Instead of either idolizing Mahatma Gandhi or throwing him in a ditch, keep him just as other freedom fighters...

  • @masonluo4049
    @masonluo4049 5 років тому +74

    Wendover: planes
    Polymater: China
    Knowing Better: Columbus

    • @mindlesswav
      @mindlesswav 4 роки тому +13

      knowing better: genocides

    • @dripsval6212
      @dripsval6212 4 роки тому +8

      @@mindlesswav hotel: trivago

  • @Wygruce
    @Wygruce 6 років тому +18

    Great video. Minor quibble, Islam is a religion not a race.

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 6 років тому +14

    Splendid!!
    Fancy doing a similar piece on Mother Theresa?

  • @ppaaccoojrf
    @ppaaccoojrf 5 років тому +264

    "Gandhi thought that Muslims were too intolerant of criticism and that they should welcome criticism of the Qur'an"
    That's not Islamophobia, that's having a reasonable and accurate stance on the issue.

    • @schechter01
      @schechter01 5 років тому +40

      I had the same thought. Presumably Knowing Better is already aware of the Danish cartoon riots, the Charlie Hebdo massacre, etc. If he's _really_ plugged in then he might be aware of strong-arm tactics used by on-campus orgs such as the MSA against pro-Israel activists.

    • @sajidteg4682
      @sajidteg4682 5 років тому +40

      U cant generalize all Muslims in the same area. Not all of us are the same

    • @ppaaccoojrf
      @ppaaccoojrf 5 років тому +34

      @@sajidteg4682 I understand that perfectly, but that's not really an argument against Gandhi's statement.

    • @KevinUchihaOG
      @KevinUchihaOG 5 років тому +58

      @@sajidteg4682 Of course not. When i say "catholic priests should molest children less" i'm not saying ALL catholic priest molest children, but a worrying number of them. Seemingly more catholic priests molest children than priests of other religions. Calling them out isn't saying that all catholics condone it, but it saying that catholics should own up to the fact that there is an issue within their community. Change needs to come from within.
      Criticism of Christianity is accepted and widely spread throughout Christian nations. We have criticised christianity so much that people don't even realise it when i happens, it's normal life for western countries. South Park have had Jesus Christ in the show many many times. They have made fun of basically all religions. But once they made fun of Islam and Muhammad they suddenly got death threats in the thousands and the episodes had to be pulled and you can no longer get a hold of them. This is unlike any other religion.

    • @sayidadam3728
      @sayidadam3728 5 років тому +1

      i agree with you. to take some understandable meaning from 2 or more group society. we need some argument base on fundamental book. but the majority people in my group just bunch of stupid. they cant satify your question and anybody who has some sharp question and need much detail information.

  • @sknova88
    @sknova88 6 років тому +8

    great work! keep making these videos.

  • @FrankieCoto
    @FrankieCoto 6 років тому +828

    He can't be as bad as your hair style lol

    •  6 років тому +44

      Frankie Coto he's blue ....dabba dee dabba do..... lol

    • @TheTemper-King
      @TheTemper-King 6 років тому +3

      Danial Howe it’s actually (Im blue, if i was green I would die)

    • @raphaelamor
      @raphaelamor 6 років тому +8

      Looks kinda hot to me, though I cant be sure if ist blue or grey?

    • @SJNaka101
      @SJNaka101 6 років тому

      @@TheTemper-King nope

    • @angelaphsiao
      @angelaphsiao 6 років тому

      Harsh

  • @speedwagon1824
    @speedwagon1824 2 роки тому +4

    Why should India care if the protest was in the middle of the war? It would make more sense to protest at that time anyways.

  • @iamsimran2402
    @iamsimran2402 3 роки тому +29

    As an Indian i already know some of this..he was never my idol (not for a lot of Indians actually)
    I was rather surprised that he is famous outside of India. We all know he did almost nothing for freedom from Britain...he was just a bit smarter and educated than most people back then and played his game well

    • @palmarum9634
      @palmarum9634 3 роки тому +1

      He was Britains B team

    • @manasjain2034
      @manasjain2034 2 роки тому +2

      Well, Gandhi did a lot but he was a politician more than anything. The stabilisation of India also depended on him and other intellectuals. Independence could have been delayed even longer, the country could have been fractured and India could have become much more nationalistic.

  • @kaibaCorpHQ
    @kaibaCorpHQ 5 років тому +21

    6:51 I see why ghandi would start at 0 aggression and then halfway into the game he would go nuclear by declaring war on everyone.

    • @mydearfriend007
      @mydearfriend007 3 роки тому +1

      It's Gandhi not Ghandi. Are you that visually challenged?

    • @hiftylonghead892
      @hiftylonghead892 3 роки тому

      @@mydearfriend007 Its, who cares. He's a pervy racist.

    • @levthemapperxd
      @levthemapperxd Рік тому

      @@mydearfriend007A minor typo is somehow a bad thing?

  • @seni_oo
    @seni_oo 5 років тому +3

    Bro the intro to this video really stuck with me and it's so true. We believe we're so 3d but take everyone else at face value disregarding all reason so we can place them into the box we want to fit them into

  • @Neverhoodian
    @Neverhoodian 6 років тому +17

    At least we still have Fred Rogers in the "genuinely good person" category...for now.

    • @tinyrobot9989
      @tinyrobot9989 6 років тому +5

      Neverhoodian Mr. rogers will always be amazing

    • @TheMouseAvenger
      @TheMouseAvenger 5 років тому +3

      Well, Gandhi is still a very good person...just more complicated than we may have originally realized. :-)

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 3 роки тому +1

      There is no for now. To be mentally stable:
      1. Take your paranoia and drop it.
      2. Crush it underfoot.
      3. Scatter it to the winds.
      4. ???
      5. Profit.

  • @niharreddy4378
    @niharreddy4378 5 років тому +15

    The whole thing about Muslim not taking criticism well has now become true for a good number of Hindu’s in India too now.

  • @Levacque
    @Levacque Рік тому +2

    I haven't even watched it yet, but thank you! I'm tired of being the only jackass in the room willing to say that Ghandi was a creepy dude. Now I have somewhere to send people who argue with me.

  • @lightdrgn20
    @lightdrgn20 6 років тому +6

    My first game of Civ. 6, I was going for a religous victory (as Saladin), India spammed apostles, I did the next best thing and went crusading, needless to say, I didn't have friends afterwards.

  • @espeon91
    @espeon91 6 років тому +6

    As an Indian, a few points on the video:
    Good:
    1. Thanks for covering the "dark" bits of Gandhi. In our history books, he is portrayed as a saint who could do no wrong. His racist sentiments towards Africans is totally glossed over in India. 3. His weird fetishes are also never mentioned in our books
    2. Gandhi was a transparent man. His writings are exhaustive and available freely online.
    3. His role in our freedom movement is exaggerated due to whitewashing of our history books by the Congress Party (his old party)
    4. His ideals for a modern India were antiquated and called for a return to the old Vedic ages.
    Bad:
    1. He was soft towards Muslims. He was even killed by a Hindu extremist because of the same perceptions. His "criticism" of Islam was that it takes itself too seriously, which is not Islamophobia. In a modern society, nothing is above criticism,.
    2. Muslim league was a minor player in Indian politics of the time. The two state theory was advocated by both Hindu and Muslim extremists and was seen as the best way to avoid a massive civil war. Even so, the partition of India was a brutal time, involving displacement of millions of people.
    3. He never directly advocated violence. In 1921, he called off the Non-Cooperation movement precisely because people burned policemen for firing at them. His snake-oil of Satyagraha led to several thousand Hindus being killed by Moplas (muslims) in Kerala.
    4. What is not mentioned in the video is that he was an incredibly populist figure throughout the India of 1930-1940s. This was why the Brits were cautious in dealing with him. His words could sway people regardless of religion.
    PS: If you want a billion dislikes, do a video critical on Narendra Modi, our current PM :P He is being propped up into a demi-god just like Gandhi was.

  • @irvin5839
    @irvin5839 2 роки тому

    These videos make me want to look my self in a room on my off and listen to how my history classes in school should have been taught, it's unbiased and factual and makes me see things in a better light . Keep up the good work!!!

  • @emperorpalpatine6170
    @emperorpalpatine6170 6 років тому +15

    I agree with this video but it does have one flaw . And that’s you can’t be racist against Muslims because Muslim isn’t a race idk how you can put that against him, he was just being critical of Islam

    • @karlazeen
      @karlazeen 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah Islam deserves a lot of criticism but there's a difference between criticism and bigotry.

    • @hijack69
      @hijack69 3 роки тому +5

      @@karlazeen any criticism of Islam is seen as bigotry

    • @karlazeen
      @karlazeen 3 роки тому +3

      @werid person Yeah that's good

    • @karlazeen
      @karlazeen 3 роки тому +3

      @werid person criticism of a groups practices is good

  • @MrRed424
    @MrRed424 6 років тому +165

    As an Indian thank you. We are all complex even “saints” like Ghandi aren’t perfect.

    • @TheGuideCenter
      @TheGuideCenter 5 років тому +22

      Normal people aren't perfect, he's not even close to be a normal good human being, he's a sick racist homophobic

    • @subaruyagami2327
      @subaruyagami2327 5 років тому +3

      @@TheGuideCenter lol, racist? Have you even read his autobiography?

    • @psi9899
      @psi9899 5 років тому +17

      @@subaruyagami2327 did you see the video?

    • @TheGuideCenter
      @TheGuideCenter 5 років тому +7

      @@subaruyagami2327 Are you blind? Yess he's racist af

    • @infinitedeathloop5517
      @infinitedeathloop5517 5 років тому +3

      @@psi9899 this guy made the same video as "you don't see in 4k" his channel is based on talking trash while sounding really smart. He does research equivalent to a 4th grader searching for how to overclock a GPU. His content is trash.

  • @unicornknight165
    @unicornknight165 4 роки тому +2

    As an Indian we are taught in school to consider Gandhi as our idol and he is almost SOLELY credited for India’s independence. Although we learn about non-Gandhi lead movements, they were “violent” and hence were not taught with half the importance given to that man’s “non-violent” movements.
    Yes it’s true the father of our nation was helped in achieving independence but they should also teach and show the dark side of him, thus making him more human, because he is described as nearly a saint in Indian history textbooks.
    Time for other Indian freedom fighters to take the podium.
    Thank you for this video!

  • @WiraStudio
    @WiraStudio 5 років тому +13

    That Civ meme gets me every time

  • @EdwinDover
    @EdwinDover 6 років тому +13

    Oooo Great video, but I am sure it will get its share of hate sadly. Do Mandela next!!

    • @KnowingBetter
      @KnowingBetter  6 років тому +2

      Surprisingly, not as much as the Columbus one so far. Fingers crossed!

    • @EdwinDover
      @EdwinDover 6 років тому

      I really dig your channel, it shocks me that it doesn't have more subs when so many of the topics are current and relevant :/ Do you have any help making them?

    • @KnowingBetter
      @KnowingBetter  6 років тому

      I do not, it's all me. I bounce ideas off of friends and other creators of course, but all the research, writing, filming, and editing is me. Which is why it's been taking a bit longer than usual to put out content.
      Occasionally I'll have a friend draw something for me (my channel art for example) but that's it.

  • @GeneralLiuofBoston1911
    @GeneralLiuofBoston1911 2 роки тому +1

    I was scrolling through the old videos and never knew this one existed until now

  • @namasterick
    @namasterick 6 років тому +5

    Superb presentation. Interesting, nicely edited, entertaining and informative, Well done! you have another follower.

  • @MrFlotterpeter
    @MrFlotterpeter 6 років тому +4

    Great video as always !

  • @DuraiRaj-of7hq
    @DuraiRaj-of7hq 4 роки тому +1

    We all know the truth, glad you are able put it all in one video, wish you could able to add more unsong heroes 🙏

  • @EmilioSanderson
    @EmilioSanderson 6 років тому +16

    You opened my mind to Gandhi, I'm just now realizing how bad my high school education was. Thanks

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy 6 років тому +8

    It is in the habit of people to glorify those who liberated their country. In a sense this is what Gandhi did but without starting a war. I actually recall hearing this story in a book about the Gandhi movie where one of his followers wanted them to include the darker aspects of his nature simply to keep it from glorifying him because he preferred it that way. In a sense it is better to include these things because we need to remind people that you don't need to be a saint to do a great good or to help people. Incidentally I think the Indian/African racism went both ways. In Uganda at one point Idi Amin deported everyone of Indian descent from his country and seized their property - an act of genocide - which I believe had great support at the time in Uganda. It didn't help matters in the country but these things are not uncommon as we might believe.

  • @5P3C73R
    @5P3C73R 5 років тому

    I thank you for sharing and teaching me this, not because it may be used as an excuse for ...stuff, but it confirms my suspicion that there are no right or wrong, being "right" or "good" is relative, while I would be "right" in one part of the world, I would also be "wrong" in another. The educators should stop revering people and disregard their bad actions, like W. Churchill that hated Indians and let them starve, the Nazis with Jews, teachers and other groups, the Norwegians with Samis, Japanese with Burakumins, the Americans and the Indians (Native Americans), Mother Theresa and now Ghandi
    We should judge a character based on his/her actions, and regardless of their actions, whether it resulted in good or bad, none should be revered, but seen as a lesson to perhaps not let it happen again.
    If we forget our history, we are bound to repeat it again.
    You have opened my eyes, thank you my friend.

  • @high-cfruitpunch1216
    @high-cfruitpunch1216 6 років тому +11

    TEACH US THAT HISTORY DADDY

  • @_danvasco
    @_danvasco 5 років тому +13

    Tyler “Ninja” Blevins 30 years after leaving twitch

  • @sbabios
    @sbabios 2 роки тому +1

    What a mind-bomb! I knew Ghandi was a racist, but I didn't know how deep it ran. Man! #knowingbetter Thank you for all the great content!

  • @randomamateur1583
    @randomamateur1583 3 роки тому +4

    I love how you just state the facts.. I mean, I've got no words. Please do not disappear and keep up the good work. We need youtubers like you to keep going amongst this huge trashload of bullshit on the internet these days.

  • @cs0345
    @cs0345 6 років тому +69

    Calling for Independence during a World War is exactly what Ireland did and managed to succeed.

    • @explodethebomb
      @explodethebomb 6 років тому +17

      Ireland became independent in 1922. WW1 ended in 1918

    • @WillHayes44
      @WillHayes44 6 років тому +4

      Not to mention, they were supported by Germany, while Irish Soldiers died in trenches on the continent as well. What a glorious effort...

    • @alexwright4930
      @alexwright4930 6 років тому +11

      The Easter Rising by Irish nationalist insurgents was in 1916 during WWI, and it was crushed.

  • @janhaviverma5180
    @janhaviverma5180 Рік тому +4

    There's also a super complex perception of Gandhi in India. There's a faction of centrist-ish liberals who view him pretty highly and might defend/disregard valid criticism. Then, there's the right wing that hates him - not because of the valid criticism, but because of his affiliation with the Nehru family and his centrist-liberal political stance. And finally, there's the faction I agree with, which strongly dislikes him for all the critique, especially his stance on the caste system and the role of liberal caste-privileged Hindus in the continuation of the caste system in direct and indirect ways.
    Personally, I'd much rather see a pan-national lauding of figures like Dr. B R Ambedkar, rather than just Gandhi and other caste Hindus actively interested in perpetuating caste.

    • @Kokila_Parag_Modi
      @Kokila_Parag_Modi Рік тому +1

      I'd say now he's like hated by atleast 30% of the population
      40% don't care at all
      The remaining 30% defend him

  • @alexanderchippel
    @alexanderchippel 6 років тому +47

    Will you do one on Hitler, Stalin, or Che Guevara?

    • @ShubhamBhushanCC
      @ShubhamBhushanCC 6 років тому +8

      Alexander Chippel Che Guevara murdered tyrants. I am okay with it

    • @konradsartorius7913
      @konradsartorius7913 6 років тому +38

      Shubham Bhushan Che was a tyrant. This bizarre worship of Che Guevara in certain circles on the left is something that warrants an anti Che video in its own right.

    • @HappyRoach1
      @HappyRoach1 6 років тому +5

      Che Guevara was an overrated one hit wonder. Helped overthrow Batista in Cuba, and it was downhill from there. Tried to help overthrow several other governments and failed. He was a smart and photogenic pretty boy who took a great pic that made the girls wet their panties. I believed his so called buddy Fidel sold him out in Bolivia, after Che mouthed off about the Russians.

    • @chestercopperbottom
      @chestercopperbottom 6 років тому +8

      Shubham Bhushan In addition to suppressing free speech and executing hundreds of people without trial during the Cuban Revolution, and that's not to mention the hard-on he got for nuclear weapons. Che Guevara was trash.

    • @luiscarlosarenas9370
      @luiscarlosarenas9370 6 років тому +2

      Not to mention he went all-out racist when his campaign in the Congo failed miserably.

  • @Dragondude2525
    @Dragondude2525 6 років тому +21

    Literally everyone is in the grey, no one person is all good or all bad

    • @TheMouseAvenger
      @TheMouseAvenger 5 років тому +3

      Precisely! Like Walt Disney, or Jim Jones, or Bill Cosby, or Christopher Columbus...

    • @gabrielfraser2109
      @gabrielfraser2109 5 років тому +6

      I don't know, Hitler falls pretty comfortably into the "bad" category. I mean, he was big on animal rights, but that's about it.

    • @oanaalexia
      @oanaalexia 5 років тому +2

      @@gabrielfraser2109 that single thing keeps him in the grey area as well. In his mind he never wanted bad things for his people but all these don't justify or rationalize his actions.

    • @oanaalexia
      @oanaalexia 5 років тому +1

      @@boredguy5463 He lied about being curly. It's a big no no.

    • @oanaalexia
      @oanaalexia 5 років тому

      @@boredguy5463 yes, let's not forget about that, even the devil needs compassion.

  • @Geofinnstar
    @Geofinnstar 2 роки тому +1

    "I'm starting to think that your only purpose in this script is to set up my next argument" *mysterious music plays*

  • @canadianturtle7240
    @canadianturtle7240 6 років тому +48

    You Gandhi be kidding me

  • @5h0rgunn45
    @5h0rgunn45 6 років тому +22

    A Hindu Indian hating on Muslim Indians isn't racism because they're the exact same race. It's religion-based bigotry (I hate the term "Islamophobe" because it's far too ill-defined to be used in intellectual discourse).

    • @illuminatea6868
      @illuminatea6868 6 років тому

      doesn't really change the point of the video though

    • @5h0rgunn45
      @5h0rgunn45 6 років тому

      Shuaib Ahmed Syed Gilani
      I'm not sure you understand what a 'race' is. Then again, the term 'race' is extremely ill-defined, so I'm not sure I understand it either. But I know enough to know that Indians are all the same race. There are many ethnicities and even a variety of skin tones, but they're all the same race. In fact, I'm pretty sure Indians and Europeans are the same race. Africa is the same way--the Koi-San people of South Africa, for example, are much lighter-skinned than the Bantus of east Africa, but they're also considered to be the same race.

    • @5h0rgunn45
      @5h0rgunn45 6 років тому

      As far as I know, there are three races in the world: African, Asian, and White. As I said, that's a bad definition for race, since it doesn't account for, what, 2 or 3 billion people? If you're using a different definition from the one most people think of that's fine, but maybe you should lead with that.
      That said, I still don't see what any of that has to do with the main point of my original comment. Hating someone because of their religion is not racist. Even if the two people are different races. Although in that case, racism could be a part of it.

    • @anantasheshanaga3666
      @anantasheshanaga3666 3 роки тому

      There's also the issue of Islamic terrorism and genocide. The prophet Mohammad was a pedophile as well.

  • @cookies23z
    @cookies23z 3 роки тому

    after the 5year survey, I go back to watch a bunch of videos I missed (or ones that I didnt watch since I found you not *too* long ago)
    Old intro baby! that is what I wanted to say...

  • @DarkBrawlerLink
    @DarkBrawlerLink 5 років тому +5

    I couldn't stop staring at your hair during the entire video. So mesmerizing.

  • @dpring777
    @dpring777 6 років тому +7

    I'm glad I found your videos, sir. We are like-minded people.

  • @surya-ravi
    @surya-ravi 4 роки тому +2

    As someone ignorant about this, thank you for educating us.

  • @kaushikgupta9490
    @kaushikgupta9490 6 років тому +97

    I am an Indian and I don't think gandhi as "Father of the nation"

    • @yousexythang208
      @yousexythang208 6 років тому +4

      Out of interest, who (if anyone) do you consider it to be? I'd put Nehru at the top of the list, but of course there were other important players such as Jinnah and even Cripps, though neither were Indians at their time of death.

    • @alecity4877
      @alecity4877 6 років тому

      Chandra gupta

    • @Nchinnam
      @Nchinnam 6 років тому +8

      Nehru was also a horrible person who was just trying to gain wealth and fame.

    • @SauravDasGuptaIN
      @SauravDasGuptaIN 6 років тому +5

      Bose

    • @Nchinnam
      @Nchinnam 6 років тому +8

      The Pirate Persian India was always a hindhu nation, why else do everyone convert to Christianity and Islam in India to gain minority benefits. Cuz it's a hindhu majority country. And past Congress members weren't all bad it's just a few that ruined it's reputation. Lal bahadhur sastry was a Congress party member and we ain't bashing on him. It's just a few that screwed up big time just like other members of other parties. Why do you have to involve religion into this, us hindhus don't care about other religions as long as they stop converting our people. We are cool with sharing our space with everyone.

  • @omkardubey8654
    @omkardubey8654 3 роки тому +3

    As an indian , I really hope we remove his photo from Indian currency.

  • @dahlola
    @dahlola 5 років тому

    Wow I didn't know this, but now I know better! Great video as always.

  • @kuttapi3255
    @kuttapi3255 3 роки тому +6

    Sadly majority of indians still worship him and calls him the father of the nation

  • @joenuclear8533
    @joenuclear8533 6 років тому +6

    I'm of the Christian race myself, sub-race Protestant of the family Calvinist. I find most youtubers and commenters to be extremely racist against my people.

  • @WheelerPro2000
    @WheelerPro2000 5 років тому

    Oof! What a hefty topic. Great job for discussing about this!

  • @frislander4299
    @frislander4299 5 років тому +4

    The worst bit about the "Aryan Brotherhood" thing is that it's actually half-right, since English and Hindi are both Indo-European languages. However this doesn't work on a more general racial level (because race as an idea is a crock of shit), and doesn't work for all Indians (because southern Indians such as Tamils and Malayalees are Dravidian-speakers, and there are loads of non-Indo-European speakers in the north-east).

    • @adrenalinevan
      @adrenalinevan 5 років тому +1

      And not all white people speak indo-european languages, like Hungarian, Finnish, or Basque people

  • @safs4929
    @safs4929 3 роки тому +46

    Dude, I agree with most of what you say but the part about Gandhi talking about criticism of Islam thing is spot on and shouldn't be considered racist.
    I mean, how many Islamic countries you know allow criticism of the religion?? NONE. They all severely punish those who criticized Islam or anything related.

    • @leftenantthunder
      @leftenantthunder 3 роки тому +4

      Islam fucking sucks and Indians know that better than anyone. Literally hundreds of years of invasion and millions of deaths

    • @remy7663
      @remy7663 3 роки тому +6

      True, Islamism as a national ideology is fucking cancer. Islam as a religion, I couldn't care less, but when they make Sharia law the country's law, now that's when shit goes to storm.

    • @italianstalian331
      @italianstalian331 2 роки тому

      Yeah muslims are the most intolerant , yet when they come over to Canada or us because they are sick of living in fear they want to bring all their bullshit they left over hear , and we get called racist for telling them to not try and change our traditions

    • @TheGj24
      @TheGj24 2 роки тому +6

      Exactly, how is it racist to have debate and discourses on backward religious practices, be it Christian Hindu or Muslim

    • @guptabhishek
      @guptabhishek 2 роки тому

      It shows how even this channel can go against anybody to criticise them but not those that can behead him if they fell like it

  • @mitzipulido5658
    @mitzipulido5658 4 роки тому

    I subscribed when i saw a ferret. I know it was posted 2 years ago but with all the riots going on, i find this a very relevant video.

  • @jeffreygao3956
    @jeffreygao3956 5 років тому +8

    16:57 Not me, I like my history to be nuanced and multilayered. Through some research of my own, I had doubts that Mohandas Gandhi was as good as many people think.

    • @rohittantia4020
      @rohittantia4020 4 роки тому

      He is Clueless and Biased about Gandhi.
      Columbus pushed 10-11 years old girls into Sex Slavery, Killed & Enslaved 10000s, Wiped of Natives from their own Lands and Exploited their Resources. Black & Indian people are still facing Racism and inequality even after 500 years. You Underplay & Justify what Columbus did and expect us to believe that you care about Racism by Comparing a Mass-Murderer, Slave-Owner, tyrant with Gandhi???
      World doesn't Respect Some 20 year old Boy but Mahatma Gandhi who fought against Oppression throughout his life, when Gandhi Reached Africa he was in his 20s. In India we don't have Black People, now Imagine being aware about Black Community and their Suffering in a world without TV, Radio, Internet or such Modern Inventions of Information. Gandhi and most Indian were clueless about Black People at that time, for them they were Tribals or just savages who lived in Jungles or just totally Clueless about their Existence. Gandhi Reached their and saw Black People with eyes of Whites who were ruling half of the world. Indians in Africa were Educated, Civilised and Wealthy compared to Oppressed & Enslaved Black People who were illiterate and Extremely Poor. Of Course they were not equal, not equal in a country where people were divided by Whites based on Racial characters. Gandhi's views on Black Community in his earlier years were Indeed Problematic, but he was neither a Slave Owner nor a Associate or advocate of people who Discriminated. You Expected him to fight for Indians as well as Black South Africans at the Same Time? You are Criticising him because he Fought for Rights of Brown Indians but didn't fight for 4 Centuries Old Institutionalised Discrimination? Sorry, a Person has some Limitations... But this Movement later Motivated and Inspired Black leaders or anyone who was Opreesed. Indian followers of Gandhi were marching Along Side Mandela when he was leading the movement in Africa.
      'Harijan' do you even know what this word means? Did you even bother to Research? Untouchability was pretty much relevant 100 years ago, Untouchables were called with highly racists and insulting words; instead Gandhi started using 'Harijan' , which literally means People-Of-God. You talked about Untouchables and used a trimmed clip from Kee & Peele but you didn't talk about how he was Always Against Untouchability from the very first day. He was in support of Cast System in begining but over the years his views changed when he saw their suffering and inequality. He made a real change in life of millions of intouchables, he tought common Indians that they are just like them, you would know this if you actually Researched.
      You talked about his Vow of Celibacy, belief in power of Maintaining & Controlling Sexual Desire and sensationalised the whole thing. There are books of no nutting and people who claim that they Achieved Success & Greater Discipline by simply doing the same. Yes, his Sexual Experiments were weird af.
      "I learnt from Hussain how to achieve Victory while Opreesed" - Gandhi . You are Clueless about Gandhi, his Values, Politics & History of India. That 'Sacrifice' Quote was incomplete and that was said after only 16 Sikhs could reach Delhi Alive out of 1000 Sikhs who started Journey from Pakistani side of Punjab after Partition. Just google about Condition of Minorities in Pakistan in 21st century you Clueless immature man. Gandhi was a Secular leader , he always Criticised Radical Hindus and Muslims both, you can Cherry pick his Criticism of Radical islam and try to make him sound an Islamophobic. He advocated Brotherhood between Hindus & Muslims throughout his life and anyone who is aware about India know this very well. India was ruled by Muslims kings for more 6 Centuries and at least half of them were Pretty unfair with Native Hindus, also the endless Invasion and Loots over the Centuries. Radical Islamists still Kill & Behead people over Criticism of Islam, do you think it's fine? Hindus are better with this, we Criticise and Question our own Gods and Scriptures, even watch movies who Mocks our own Gods, you are Fcking Clueless about India or anything you are talking about.
      'Communal Award' Advocated for Separate Electorate based on Castes and Religion; Sorry, that we didn't accepted Proposal of Further more Division of our Country by British.
      'Freedom in the middle of War' Whose War Exactly ? it was certainly not India's War, Indians Sacrificed Themselves for British in two World Wars.You say "Political pressure of Imperial Rule was Built" after 200 years of Total Exploitation , Drainage of Wealth & Heritage, Division of India, and Torture & Murders of Millions of Indians..... Just White Colonial Stuff

  • @موسى_7
    @موسى_7 4 роки тому +5

    14:45 The George Washington and the cherry tree business is not a complete lie. As we see in the final episode of Ben 10 Omniverse, the cherry tree was an analogy for Vilgax's spaceship, so it has basis in truth.

  • @emmawilliams8119
    @emmawilliams8119 6 місяців тому

    I just wanted to say, I appreciate the nonpartisan view of history you offer on your channel. I haven’t seen a lot of history teachers who are successful in keeping their opinions out of their retellings of history, so I appreciate that you aren’t intentionally villainizing or elevating any historical figures 😅

  • @HDxEXoThERMiA
    @HDxEXoThERMiA 5 років тому +4

    Got about one minute in. Paused to go listen to I've Never Met a Nice South African. Back now.

    • @Jake007123
      @Jake007123 5 років тому

      Thank you, I just discovered Spitting Image thanks to you and I'm having a blast right now!

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite 6 років тому +20

    How is criticizing Islam and people who follow Islamic beliefs racist?

    • @UltimaSigmarAlonso
      @UltimaSigmarAlonso 6 років тому +4

      Bad Dragonite he’s a SJW

    • @Dragoncam13
      @Dragoncam13 6 років тому +6

      Alot of Muslims and non Muslims nowadays act like it's a race