WG: We didn't want to give the RN CLs HE shells in order to not promote HE spamming from within smoke also WG: Here is the new Russian premium ship, the Smolensk
It is the fabled cheat of cooperation. Of course, this one has the added benefit of using two ships that complement eachother. And it is not as bad as that secondary speced carrier with two destroyers doing nothing in the whole game except laying smoke screeens. The latter example mean that three ships did the job of two, artificially making the carrier look good. Here we had a destroyer doing destroyer thing (smoke screens, spotting, torpedoes) so the combined effect was net positive compared to uncoordinated cruiser and destroyer.
Ladies and gentleman, in the green corner, tonight fighting his 100th match, we have a heavyweight champion and his buddy with a baseball bat, and in the red corner we have this one armed guy we found behind a dumpster.
@@thomaskositzki9424 well I'm not saying he's playing that ship wrong - that's what you supposed to do in a smolensk. But yeah still a good bedtime story..
@@ibnu9969 No, I didn't mean to imply that he did wrong. How could I, he got 450k damage. :D It's just very campy to play. I am Brit CL fan, so I don't blame him at all. ;)
It's almost as if, at a glance, you'd think it was a secondary build BB. Impressive that no one gave him a random detonation with HE as happens to some others.
Yeah, that's what I keyed in on. I'm new to the game and lucky to get 100. Some games, my claim to fame is I spotted the 3 ships that blew me out of the water :P
15 guns firing every 4 seconds (I think). It’s like walking auto cannon fire onto a target; once you get the range, you can drop 225 shells a minute once you get it tricked out. Combine that with a player who clearly knows how to play the ship, and this becomes possible.
@@danielhall4024 My only warships knowledge is from Jingles, but iirc detonations only happen if you don't have a flag equipped, and only noobs don't equip detonation flags.
Exhibit A on why I stopped playing over a year ago as well as WG's hypocrisy: "We can't give British CLs smoke AND HE shells, as that would be ridiculous. We're also going to remove the Belfast from sale because it's clearly overpowered. Here, have a Russian Atlanta with smoke AND HE shells AND heal AND torpedoes AND hydro whilst also having paper-thin armour that guarantees overpens. But it's okay, because it's a 'hard to earn' premium that only the best players can get..."
@@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias wow you really are trying to defend it, i remember jingles saying something about "russian bias" in a video and says that russians think that the bias is AGAINST them XD
@@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias Doesn't make it less toxic, especially when the OP was noting Wargaming's hypocrisy. It is also a very good example of bad balance because it encourages bad gameplay. It's like EBRs in WoT, those encourage yolo scouting and "holy crap I have been spotted 15 seconds in, better hide" gameplay.
@@marcochen9117 No you are wrong. I am not trying to defend it. In fact i rarely play it because i find it boring and underwhelming. What i am saying is this: The abysmally, unspeakably, unfathomably BAD playerbase is trying to find scapegoats for their immense ineptitude and one of those scapegoats is the totally imaginary "russian bias". PS: I am not Russian, these are not russian letters in my nickname ffs...
@@itatane The OP is stupid. First off the Mino is in my opinion vastly better. Second the 130s on the Smolensk don't pen SHIT (27mm WITH IFHE which messes your fire chance can even pen the bow of same tier cruisers). The Mino has only AP, yes, but it also has the best AP penetration angles, even better than the Des Moines. So it's fine.
@@SpeedyCM I think it's worse, because those are usually not totally OP and annoy the crap out of any other player. That Jingles is promoting this kind of play is actually kind of annoying.
@@KellyMallory Well honestly by itself the Smolensk is not totally OP and can be countered by any even marginally competent team. In this case though divved up with a smoking DD it can be very potent, but that is also the case for any team in warships using actual teamwork no matter the ships. It is teamwork which is OP.
@@SpeedyCM Sure, a bad player is a bad player, no matter the ship... or maybe just an unlucky player, since luck plays a big part in the game. That being said... it's pretty easy to be good in a Smolensk compared to most other ships. And what personally anoys me about it is. While other ships might be as OP they aren't as damaging to the fun for other players. There are several "firestarters" in the game. Some less, some more annoying. The Smolensk is on the far end of annoying. And about the argument its not the ship, its the team... yes. But that's always the case and doesn't change the fact that some ships are OP. Even if a brilliant player is in a Smolensk, it's still OP. ;)
It's rare for me to disagree with you Jingles but this time other than manouvering out of sight of the two Alaskas this was just HE spam and less exciting than a CV video
OMG BIG FAN JINGLES!!!! I've been watching since you were the Bohemian Eagle!!!! I'm glad Elgar asked decided to send my replay in! I know the replay was a bit cheesy, but I want to abuse the Smolensk a few more times before the captain rework nerfs it. (Believe me I am happy it is getting nerfed) My WOWS career is now set, thank you kind gnome overlord!!
Sorry Jingles, a video about a (very good) player in the most toxic, OP douchebag ship in the game isn't a good video, now if he'd done that in a Hindenburg, or a Henri, or any other tech tree ship, that would be impressive, but hiding in smoke like a coward and spamming ridiculous amount of shells (as I see in the comments below) turns a lot of people off.
BFK is divved with a Fletcher because divving with a t9 while playing a t10 guarantees 5 BB games without the stale back-of-the-map gameplay found in full t10 MM on the NA server. BFK plays to farm and goes for high damage matches to make the game interesting, so divisioning with a Fletcher guarantees a lot of hp for him to farm. He is also doing something called the Geargiong Experience here where the Fletcher plays smoke simp and lays smoke + spots for the high DPM ship to farm damage from. BFK himself does this on stream; as one of his mods, I highly recommend watching him for a bit and redeeming this ability for yourself. Also, Fletchiong is Dragon from O7, Most CVLUL accounts are alts; CVLUL is the home of the CV Hunting Lodge. CV hunting is another frequent experience on BFK's stream, and the 2x Kidd + Akizuki hunting divisions are quite fun to watch :) I edited this to fix a spelling error and now it's unpinned D: lol rip
push to the cap, not broadside to a entire team. Either bow on or lodge himself behind the island. this way the DD doesn't just get hammered by the other side. But instead, potato gotta potato and its broadside time.
i love pushing, i love brawling ,i love getting up close and personal.....but if im in a BB and i see a smolensk.....i go hard to starboard and go in the opposite direction.......i treat a smolensk like i treat a wall of shima torpedoes.....i stay TF away
yes but a carrier is in every game and requires no team coordination,smoke divison cheese actually requires more than 1 person and coordination...So carriers are pretty broken as playing against them is frustrating...
Another unpopular opinion: it works very, very well and requires some skill to get it to work. I have no issue with using game mechanics to your advantage, even if it's supremely annoying. The Smolensk however I do have an issue with. Overpowered, Russian premium. Please.
Not even close. Carriers are everywhere, have no effective counterplay other than half the team blobbing together for overlapping AA protection. Smoke divisions are rare and require coordination and teamwork - and as we all know, this happens once in ~1000 years, and only during a full moon, when Saturn, Mars and Venus align properly. The bigger problem is that Smolensk is OP like hell. It has good range for this calibre of gun (2,5km longer than Khaba, and 1,5 than Grozovoi, same type of guns) - with upgrades and skills, it can fire at ranges of 19km, 16 of them, smokescreen, hydro, good AA, surprisingly hard to hit citadel, good speed and agility (it is LITERALLY more agile than Khabarovsk, a destroyer) and a bloody heal. This is basically Flint on MEGA steroids, eliminating every single disadvantage Flint had - especially in terms of range (Flint has only 0,5km longer range than equivalent US DDs of the same tier).
Looks like you pissed off the Fanboys, however, shit like this is very cancerous. You can tell there was no consideration on actually winning the game only about farming damage and they just happened to win
@@frankdantuono2594 EXACTLY!! So Glad to see you get the point. WG won't change what they really believe makes them money, so go with the flow. It will drive someone to angry frustrated tears if they insist on placing their version of reality on the world. This is NOT a historical simulator in ANY way, it is an ARCADE game, so some things will be adjusted for "play balance" (just like the phrase Military Intelligence), and nothing is ever truly balanced, right? I like trying to play every ship line and see how to make them work. Everything has a strength, it really all depends on 2 things: 1) Recognize the strengths of a particular ship; and 2) Adjust your play style to fit and take advantage of the ship's unique characteristics, maybe even using them in very unusual and creative ways. Anything else, like insisting on playing something to its weaknesses is just utter fail stupidity and insanity. And yes for the record, I make PLENTY of my own FAIL MISTAKES and INSANE decisions, because I haven't figured something out yet, or I got over confidant (easy to do sometimes), or I forgot/ignored about something. Like Map/Situational Awareness. USE that mini map like your side and rear view mirrors when you drive on the road, glance at them ALL THE TIME. The life you save may be your own lols.
Hey I have gotten wrecked plenty of times, and even opening salvo deleted several times by unspotted BBs and even CAs while in the Smolensk. That over pen mechanic is not always reliable, and angling and bow tanking are NOT going to help you in any way ever lols. Playing Smolensk really well requires total map awareness as EVERY player on the enemy team will be looking for shots on you... that is, IF they know what's good for them as this video demonstrates. I have had many people charge me around an island, and gotten a full 5 torp spread as their reward ;) This is a ship that is best dealt with by BBs and CAs from bow and stern, unless you are sharp enough to switch to HE in a BB and then broadside delete it. Simple.
My favorite Jingles moment will ever be when he trolled Flambass on Twitch once. With he 24. subscription of the channel he wrote: "Two years of this shit and I still can't point to Croatia on a map!" 😂 Flambass' reaction was priceless
Play in your T10 with a T9 friend and you'll have guaranteed T8-T10 MM, if all division members are in T10 ships there's a very big chance it's going to be a T10 only match.
I was just think the exact same thing. playing in a division with T9 means a lower caliber of ships to contend with, he was probably trying to break his own record.
Save yourself 18 minutes of your life. . . Summary: Unicum player takes overpowered Soviet napkin ship, divs with American smoke, farms massive amounts of damage. It's about as amusing and impressive as watching a psychopath relentlessly kick puppies and kittens.
If they just made it a choice between smoke or heal I don't think the ship would be as bad. It Just has too much survivability for something that is supposed to be a glass cannon.
gonna be honest here, nothing satisfying in watching a smolensk replay, now not to take away from our star here in this replay, but featuring the most broken ship in the game that always boils down to sit in a smokescren and play farming simulator for the first half of the entire video just is no fun to watch and realy (again no mean to disrespect) i cannot be impressed by the result with that ship, but thats probasbly my bias speaking considering how many times ive woken with nightmares with smolensks burning everything and all
There were two Alaska's and plenty of battleships on his side. If they had been able to push together he would have been toast. But they didn't. So his teamwork beat them.
@@Jpdt19 are you realy asking teamwork of the potatoes in wows? YOu havent been playing very long it seems (jk) In honesty though teamwork shouldnt be factor in this, with how rarely it is displayed in this game, puzshing into a smolensk is a death sentence as the iowa showed, wich means you have to dedicate several ships into rushing down a smolensk, that aloone is sign that it is too strong, that you need to delegate several ships in order to counter one. Besides maybe they would have killed him, but there are enough monkeys of his own team sailing around that would have either stopped them in the first place or would have killed them after, either way there was no winning scenario
@@Jpdt19 thats sadly the way it is, also one of the reasons why i dislike smolensk and cvs so much, you have to specialy delegate several ships just in order to take a single ship out of the game, but mighty spreadsheet say is fine comrade
Smolensk... A perfect demonstration of what is wrong with cruiser meta these days. Basically the only way a cruiser can survive at high tiers is what it can hide behind an island, smoke or when it is not a cruiser - as in - pseudo DD, like Smolensk, or has a range advantage, like super-cruisers. Classic cruisers find themselves kind of sandwiched, hammer-anvil kind of situation, where they have to be sneakier than DDs as they lack defensive measures almost completely in comparison to other types of ships, making them ironically the squishiest of them all.
"They ain't gonna sink themselves." Anyone recall a few years back when Jingles posted a video where a destroyer player suckered a carrier into torpedoing itself? It was long before the carrier rework mind you, not sure it would happen now, but boy was it hilarious 😂
@@danh7411 100% healable doesn't mean one heal will restore all your HP. It varies between nations, but one BB heal restores 14% of your HP generally. One perma-fire eats 20% of the health of a BB. You can slightly improve these numbers with flags and captain skills, but overall, one perma-fire roughly eats one heal in most scenarios. If you have two perma-fires, and are low HP you will go down even if healing. In terms of theoretical HE dpm of Smolensk is 2 times that of Hindi. And even practically, if you look at the effective damage output of the salvos in this video, he was managing ~2K per HE salvo, by comparison, Hindi can put ~4K per HE salvo in practice (slightly more on unsaturated parts, less if saturated), but Smolensk can put out almost 3 salvos by the time Hindi reloads. And that's ignoring the ludicrous fire chances. AP is also quite nasty, you see 4K to 8K damages on BBs, Hindi can manage 12K, but again, at a lower rate of fire. Minotor is a bit like Smolensk and can actually deal a bit more damages, but can't ignite multiple fires. Smolensk is also weirdly able to tank shells at close range thanks to overpens where the Mino can get dev strikes easily. Lastly aiming with the Smolensk is way easier compared to the Mino thanks to the faster shells.
@@kakwa and don't you think that in this battle scenario with those BBs and Alaskas, Hinden with 50mm HE pen will have much better effective DPM and therefore have better results?
Whilst I give the player credit for doing an extremely good job playing the Smolensk. The reality is ships like the smolensk, are the reason I stopped playing WOWS.
Gotta love Jingles description. "That's how you get an armor piercing hit on a Smolensk. The armor piercing round travels the length of the ship and has time to detonate in the superstructure ". Your a gunner in the rear turret of a Smolensk happily working away when a 16" round decides to come through the back turret wall and say "hello".
This is y I stopped playing this game for 10 minutes this dude just sat in one sector of the map and clicked a button.... takes no skill wows is such a meme dude😂😂
Kaga actually gets 200mm secondary guns; the same ones as the stock guns on the Furutaka Sure, she also has some 127mm ones but no 100mm guns ...Jingles, what are you doing with that shotgun?
Bfk is a great player. My pp has grown by 5mm since i started watching his streams and my winrate is skyrocketing. But honestly, hes a hilarious guy and its really entertaining to watch him play
It can be fun but the other users are a55holes. All critics and big mouths when you don't play they way they want. And avoid ranked battles. All stressed out cry babies
This player: You see it's really facking simple. While your guns go pew pew my guns go brrrrrrrrrt *all the way to 1500 hits* Also this game is proof no matter how good you are. How well you play. You can't carry stupid always.
Funny thing is, had that Alaska at the start turned in, rather than out, he'd have been in radar range and plenty of ships could have shot him... One single decision made such a big difference
This is exactly what is wrong with this game, OP ships that never existed during the time period covered by the game, that have these magical guns that do way more damage than they could ever have done in reality. Pair that with a Div mate who is feeding you smokes and spotting for you, and you see why high teir game play is just broken for most solo players. The other interesting thing is how he doesn’t miss a single slavo, they all had a shell hit something. This ship should have never been put into the game. I don’t blame the player, it’s not his fault, congrats to him on the good round.
It's actually quite easy Jingles, the reason a T9 divs up with a T10 is because the cances of getting into a T10 battle whilst playing a T9 are astronomically high anyway. And when you're facing higher tier opponents than you, you get more XP out of the damage you do. So basically it doesn't really matter.
Why THAT Fletcher? Because that is an alt account in a clan comprised of very good super unicums that hunt CVs. You could put them all in tugboats and they would somehow win most of the time.
Smolensk ? Can I have one from the Royal Navy or Kriegsmarine, it would have 1/4th HE pen and would pen 32mm naturally. Sounds super balanced, I swear.
How players are allowed to get away with what this guy did in this match is beyond me. The enemy team had no chance. So blatantly unfair. I probably would've used all of my reports for the day against BFK and his division mate. Absolutely disgusting.
yeah, but he needed his Fletcher buddy to do all that damage. Would my top damage in a ship count if everyone on the other team was AFK and I killed them all? How about if I had buddies in all the ships on the enemy team and they let me kill them? I know those are two extreme examples, but they fall in the same category: if I bring other people into a match for the purpose to inflate my damage done, should it count at the same level as someone who accomplished the same task solo?
t10s diving with t9s are just abusing MM to get guaranteed top tier matches. an absolute scum thing to do. no surprise it's top clans doing it since they're just a bunch of PR farmers. obviously there was no malicious intent in you promoting this behavior but unfortunate all the same
Thanks, Jingles. Now everybody and their mother is going to get their Smolenk back out again and we're going to have to deal with it for weeks. I'm seriously considering mashing the dislike button.
Big damage but boring to watch; no need to spread HE spam. I expect the next vid to be a smolensk getting in constant knife fights to earn a Kraken, now that would be entertaining.
NA is so full of potatoes I’m not surprised he was able to get away with this without anyone actually attempting to punish him or reduce the amount of targets available to him.
Jingles: *doesn’t feature videos if the player is pink 10,000 times out of 10,000* Also Jingles: “oh he streams and is in O7 it’s going to be hard to smell anything after I make this video and it won’t be due to the Rona, don’t mind that he’s pink”
At least once you get the thunderer caught with its pants down it is dead. This ship tends to be overpened and has smoke so it has very much the potential to get away.
WG: We didn't want to give the RN CLs HE shells in order to not promote HE spamming from within smoke
also WG: Here is the new Russian premium ship, the Smolensk
Smokelensk
Witch has no smoke firing penalty, like every other cruiser in game.
@@terot8341 You fucking what? Are you serious?
WG: Kutuzov is also OP
@@19Crusader91 It does but due to its LOW caliber guns 130mms "Russian dd guns" its penalty is very low. At least i think thats how it works.
Impressive damage but a smoke division smolensk is kinda like watching a boxing match where one guy gets a fucking shotgun
More like a full auto 50cal.
if it takes this to win, abuse it :D
@@MetalMachine131
more like a minigun
It is the fabled cheat of cooperation. Of course, this one has the added benefit of using two ships that complement eachother.
And it is not as bad as that secondary speced carrier with two destroyers doing nothing in the whole game except laying smoke screeens. The latter example mean that three ships did the job of two, artificially making the carrier look good. Here we had a destroyer doing destroyer thing (smoke screens, spotting, torpedoes) so the combined effect was net positive compared to uncoordinated cruiser and destroyer.
Jep absolutley NOTHING to be proud of.....disgusting!
Ladies and gentleman, in the green corner, tonight fighting his 100th match, we have a heavyweight champion and his buddy with a baseball bat, and in the red corner we have this one armed guy we found behind a dumpster.
Is that a guy who is armed or a guy who only has one arm?
Damn funny comment spit up my coffee 😂👍🏽
@@bent404 I've never seen someone so armed and unarmed at the same time. Ridiculous advantage in the red corner, this match is rigged
I guarantee no one on the enemy team had fun that game.
I had fun, until the Smolensk ran me down.
@@VypreStrike Cv's dont count :P
No one on his team did either.
Spreadsheets say everybody had fun. Who are you to question?
@@AH-pq7yw haha, WeeGee hide behind their spreadsheet
War Thunder is better for this reason
If it wasnt because Jingles narrating this video I would've been bored to death
Watching it live was extremely fun because BFK and the people in the voice chat with him were flipping out and the chat went crazy.
Completely agree. World of Warships is incredibly boring to look at these days.
smoke up, pew pew pew pew, pause, smoke up, pew pew pew pew....
@@thomaskositzki9424 well I'm not saying he's playing that ship wrong - that's what you supposed to do in a smolensk. But yeah still a good bedtime story..
@@ibnu9969 No, I didn't mean to imply that he did wrong. How could I, he got 450k damage. :D
It's just very campy to play. I am Brit CL fan, so I don't blame him at all. ;)
Oh man, I didnt realize how much my blood-jingles level has fallen in the past weeks...
Also... 1500 hits my fucking god...
It's almost as if, at a glance, you'd think it was a secondary build BB. Impressive that no one gave him a random detonation with HE as happens to some others.
Yeah, that's what I keyed in on. I'm new to the game and lucky to get 100. Some games, my claim to fame is I spotted the 3 ships that blew me out of the water :P
15 guns firing every 4 seconds (I think). It’s like walking auto cannon fire onto a target; once you get the range, you can drop 225 shells a minute once you get it tricked out. Combine that with a player who clearly knows how to play the ship, and this becomes possible.
@@scottdrone-silvers5179 Make that 16 guns with a BASE reload of 4 secs (can be further improved :))
@@danielhall4024 My only warships knowledge is from Jingles, but iirc detonations only happen if you don't have a flag equipped, and only noobs don't equip detonation flags.
Exhibit A on why I stopped playing over a year ago as well as WG's hypocrisy: "We can't give British CLs smoke AND HE shells, as that would be ridiculous. We're also going to remove the Belfast from sale because it's clearly overpowered. Here, have a Russian Atlanta with smoke AND HE shells AND heal AND torpedoes AND hydro whilst also having paper-thin armour that guarantees overpens. But it's okay, because it's a 'hard to earn' premium that only the best players can get..."
Out of 18 tier 10 cruisers the Smolensk is 15th in win rate.
@@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias wow you really are trying to defend it, i remember jingles saying something about "russian bias" in a video and says that russians think that the bias is AGAINST them XD
@@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias Doesn't make it less toxic, especially when the OP was noting Wargaming's hypocrisy. It is also a very good example of bad balance because it encourages bad gameplay. It's like EBRs in WoT, those encourage yolo scouting and "holy crap I have been spotted 15 seconds in, better hide" gameplay.
@@marcochen9117 No you are wrong. I am not trying to defend it. In fact i rarely play it because i find it boring and underwhelming. What i am saying is this: The abysmally, unspeakably, unfathomably BAD playerbase is trying to find scapegoats for their immense ineptitude and one of those scapegoats is the totally imaginary "russian bias".
PS: I am not Russian, these are not russian letters in my nickname ffs...
@@itatane The OP is stupid. First off the Mino is in my opinion vastly better. Second the 130s on the Smolensk don't pen SHIT (27mm WITH IFHE which messes your fire chance can even pen the bow of same tier cruisers). The Mino has only AP, yes, but it also has the best AP penetration angles, even better than the Des Moines. So it's fine.
The only rewarding part of this video is when the CV gets sunk.
:(
Yes, I agree as much as I hate the Smolensk
If you follow Bfkfrlyfe on Twitch, you will know that was probably his favorite kill of the match.
Seems to me the MVP’s were the Fletcher and the Ibuki. No way he would have done that damage without his pals smoke
And Honestly, that is the whole point of the video. This was about great teamwork, and working to each others strengths to win.
This guy is seal clubbing at Tier 10...
Oh, a Smolensk sitting in smoke, spamming away... yawns.
Agreed it's about as interesting as a non-brawling BB or kiting CA replay.
@@SpeedyCM I think it's worse, because those are usually not totally OP and annoy the crap out of any other player. That Jingles is promoting this kind of play is actually kind of annoying.
@@KellyMallory Well honestly by itself the Smolensk is not totally OP and can be countered by any even marginally competent team.
In this case though divved up with a smoking DD it can be very potent, but that is also the case for any team in warships using actual teamwork no matter the ships.
It is teamwork which is OP.
@@SpeedyCM I take that you haven’t had the pleasure of meeting an 18km smoked Smolensk.
@@SpeedyCM Sure, a bad player is a bad player, no matter the ship... or maybe just an unlucky player, since luck plays a big part in the game. That being said... it's pretty easy to be good in a Smolensk compared to most other ships. And what personally anoys me about it is. While other ships might be as OP they aren't as damaging to the fun for other players. There are several "firestarters" in the game. Some less, some more annoying. The Smolensk is on the far end of annoying. And about the argument its not the ship, its the team... yes. But that's always the case and doesn't change the fact that some ships are OP. Even if a brilliant player is in a Smolensk, it's still OP. ;)
bfk_fer1yfe: "None of you seem to understand... I'm not locked in here with you... YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!"
It's rare for me to disagree with you Jingles but this time other than manouvering out of sight of the two Alaskas this was just HE spam and less exciting than a CV video
OMG BIG FAN JINGLES!!!! I've been watching since you were the Bohemian Eagle!!!! I'm glad Elgar asked decided to send my replay in! I know the replay was a bit cheesy, but I want to abuse the Smolensk a few more times before the captain rework nerfs it. (Believe me I am happy it is getting nerfed) My WOWS career is now set, thank you kind gnome overlord!!
Sorry Jingles, a video about a (very good) player in the most toxic, OP douchebag ship in the game isn't a good video, now if he'd done that in a Hindenburg, or a Henri, or any other tech tree ship, that would be impressive, but hiding in smoke like a coward and spamming ridiculous amount of shells (as I see in the comments below) turns a lot of people off.
Agreed.
First Jingles video I've ever disliked. I have no interest in watching T10 seal clubbing via an invisible minigun.
BFK is divved with a Fletcher because divving with a t9 while playing a t10 guarantees 5 BB games without the stale back-of-the-map gameplay found in full t10 MM on the NA server. BFK plays to farm and goes for high damage matches to make the game interesting, so divisioning with a Fletcher guarantees a lot of hp for him to farm.
He is also doing something called the Geargiong Experience here where the Fletcher plays smoke simp and lays smoke + spots for the high DPM ship to farm damage from. BFK himself does this on stream; as one of his mods, I highly recommend watching him for a bit and redeeming this ability for yourself.
Also, Fletchiong is Dragon from O7, Most CVLUL accounts are alts; CVLUL is the home of the CV Hunting Lodge. CV hunting is another frequent experience on BFK's stream, and the 2x Kidd + Akizuki hunting divisions are quite fun to watch :)
I edited this to fix a spelling error and now it's unpinned D: lol rip
This is such a sad match to watch
:D I knew staying up this late would be worth it
Right
Its 5 pm foe me
lol it's 5:30am for me
To all the hampsters that yell for BB's to push at the start of a match, that Iowa is a prime example of why we don't.
Theres a difference in yolo suicide, supporting your DD,s and pushing as one
push to the cap, not broadside to a entire team.
Either bow on or lodge himself behind the island. this way the DD doesn't just get hammered by the other side.
But instead, potato gotta potato and its broadside time.
i love pushing, i love brawling ,i love getting up close and personal.....but if im in a BB and i see a smolensk.....i go hard to starboard and go in the opposite direction.......i treat a smolensk like i treat a wall of shima torpedoes.....i stay TF away
In a perfect world that would be the carrier's job
@@Legendendear it is,but that takes a brain to figure out,so that rules out about 85% of the entire playerbase
Unpopular opinion time: Smoke division cheese is just as toxic as carriers, if not more so.
Could have been worse. Could have been 2 Smolensk's
yes but a carrier is in every game and requires no team coordination,smoke divison cheese actually requires more than 1 person and coordination...So carriers are pretty broken as playing against them is frustrating...
Another unpopular opinion: it works very, very well and requires some skill to get it to work. I have no issue with using game mechanics to your advantage, even if it's supremely annoying. The Smolensk however I do have an issue with. Overpowered, Russian premium. Please.
Not even close. Carriers are everywhere, have no effective counterplay other than half the team blobbing together for overlapping AA protection.
Smoke divisions are rare and require coordination and teamwork - and as we all know, this happens once in ~1000 years, and only during a full moon, when Saturn, Mars and Venus align properly.
The bigger problem is that Smolensk is OP like hell. It has good range for this calibre of gun (2,5km longer than Khaba, and 1,5 than Grozovoi, same type of guns) - with upgrades and skills, it can fire at ranges of 19km, 16 of them, smokescreen, hydro, good AA, surprisingly hard to hit citadel, good speed and agility (it is LITERALLY more agile than Khabarovsk, a destroyer) and a bloody heal.
This is basically Flint on MEGA steroids, eliminating every single disadvantage Flint had - especially in terms of range (Flint has only 0,5km longer range than equivalent US DDs of the same tier).
Looks like you pissed off the Fanboys, however, shit like this is very cancerous. You can tell there was no consideration on actually winning the game only about farming damage and they just happened to win
This would be an impressive result if it were not a FUCKING SMOLENSK FIGHTING TIER 8 AND 9 SHIPS!!!
RNJesus giveth...
@@claytonwhitman1608 and Russian bias makes sure RNJesus doth not taketh away...
Cry harder
@@frankdantuono2594 EXACTLY!! So Glad to see you get the point. WG won't change what they really believe makes them money, so go with the flow. It will drive someone to angry frustrated tears if they insist on placing their version of reality on the world. This is NOT a historical simulator in ANY way, it is an ARCADE game, so some things will be adjusted for "play balance" (just like the phrase Military Intelligence), and nothing is ever truly balanced, right? I like trying to play every ship line and see how to make them work. Everything has a strength, it really all depends on 2 things: 1) Recognize the strengths of a particular ship; and 2) Adjust your play style to fit and take advantage of the ship's unique characteristics, maybe even using them in very unusual and creative ways. Anything else, like insisting on playing something to its weaknesses is just utter fail stupidity and insanity. And yes for the record, I make PLENTY of my own FAIL MISTAKES and INSANE decisions, because I haven't figured something out yet, or I got over confidant (easy to do sometimes), or I forgot/ignored about something. Like Map/Situational Awareness. USE that mini map like your side and rear view mirrors when you drive on the road, glance at them ALL THE TIME. The life you save may be your own lols.
"just look at it as a destroyer that has a citadel"
You mean "... PRETENDS to have a citadel"? Not like its actually there where bbs are concerned
Hey I have gotten wrecked plenty of times, and even opening salvo deleted several times by unspotted BBs and even CAs while in the Smolensk. That over pen mechanic is not always reliable, and angling and bow tanking are NOT going to help you in any way ever lols. Playing Smolensk really well requires total map awareness as EVERY player on the enemy team will be looking for shots on you... that is, IF they know what's good for them as this video demonstrates. I have had many people charge me around an island, and gotten a full 5 torp spread as their reward ;) This is a ship that is best dealt with by BBs and CAs from bow and stern, unless you are sharp enough to switch to HE in a BB and then broadside delete it. Simple.
Totally sucks the fun out of the game, this playstyle.
Jingles is now my fav yt his sense of humor is just golden... :)
The golden 'inner child'?
Why wasn’t he previously?
I thought, we all liked Jingles, because he is such a beauty, but yeah his humor beats anything...
My favorite Jingles moment will ever be when he trolled Flambass on Twitch once. With he 24. subscription of the channel he wrote: "Two years of this shit and I still can't point to Croatia on a map!" 😂 Flambass' reaction was priceless
Play in your T10 with a T9 friend and you'll have guaranteed T8-T10 MM, if all division members are in T10 ships there's a very big chance it's going to be a T10 only match.
I was just think the exact same thing. playing in a division with T9 means a lower caliber of ships to contend with, he was probably trying to break his own record.
Division MM counts the highes tier ship in the division and nothing else.
@@janniszimbalski6652 You've obviously never tried this.
And this is the perfect demonstation of what is wrong with this game and why I stopped playing it.
Absolutely that and the dumbass rework
"American smokescreen....big...lasts forever..." That's a profound observation MJ. :)
Only in America!!!
Save yourself 18 minutes of your life. . .
Summary: Unicum player takes overpowered Soviet napkin ship, divs with American smoke, farms massive amounts of damage.
It's about as amusing and impressive as watching a psychopath relentlessly kick puppies and kittens.
remember when WG nerfed the Smolensk by reducing it's armor by a couple of millimeters? I remember because I thought it was hilarious.
Out of 18 tier 10 cruisers the Smolensk is 15th in win rate.
If they just made it a choice between smoke or heal I don't think the ship would be as bad. It Just has too much survivability for something that is supposed to be a glass cannon.
Losing 30mm on the side is not a small nerf.
@@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias you’ve got me interested now do you know what the top is?
@@blaynsaw1990 Stalingrad, Petro, Goliath, Venezia.
•yawn• any noob can sit in a smokescreen spamming HE all day. This isn’t newsworthy.
You do 400k then
gonna be honest here, nothing satisfying in watching a smolensk replay, now not to take away from our star here in this replay, but featuring the most broken ship in the game that always boils down to sit in a smokescren and play farming simulator for the first half of the entire video just is no fun to watch and realy (again no mean to disrespect) i cannot be impressed by the result with that ship, but thats probasbly my bias speaking considering how many times ive woken with nightmares with smolensks burning everything and all
There were two Alaska's and plenty of battleships on his side. If they had been able to push together he would have been toast. But they didn't. So his teamwork beat them.
@@Jpdt19 are you realy asking teamwork of the potatoes in wows? YOu havent been playing very long it seems (jk) In honesty though teamwork shouldnt be factor in this, with how rarely it is displayed in this game, puzshing into a smolensk is a death sentence as the iowa showed, wich means you have to dedicate several ships into rushing down a smolensk, that aloone is sign that it is too strong, that you need to delegate several ships in order to counter one. Besides maybe they would have killed him, but there are enough monkeys of his own team sailing around that would have either stopped them in the first place or would have killed them after, either way there was no winning scenario
@@warsowgamer4fun haha been playing almost 5 years. But I hear you yep
@@Jpdt19 thats sadly the way it is, also one of the reasons why i dislike smolensk and cvs so much, you have to specialy delegate several ships just in order to take a single ship out of the game, but mighty spreadsheet say is fine comrade
Oh waw, a Smolensk match...
I'd rather take on 2 CV's in a match than this piece of cancer...
Title sounds like from the Terminator series.
no that was put the coffin down lol in Judgement day
this ship is just disgusting
Hold my smoke screen
And this is why I stopped playing WoWS as much. Tier 8 and up is just ....... this...... thing.
Smolensk... that doesnt count. One of those ships that needs to be deleted from the game.
Smolensk replay. BLEEECCHHHHHHHHH
Smolensk... A perfect demonstration of what is wrong with cruiser meta these days.
Basically the only way a cruiser can survive at high tiers is what it can hide behind an island, smoke or when it is not a cruiser - as in - pseudo DD, like Smolensk, or has a range advantage, like super-cruisers.
Classic cruisers find themselves kind of sandwiched, hammer-anvil kind of situation, where they have to be sneakier than DDs as they lack defensive measures almost completely in comparison to other types of ships, making them ironically the squishiest of them all.
Then they get perma-spotted by carrier aircraft, making all their efforts pointless. This is why I've quit this game.
"They ain't gonna sink themselves." Anyone recall a few years back when Jingles posted a video where a destroyer player suckered a carrier into torpedoing itself? It was long before the carrier rework mind you, not sure it would happen now, but boy was it hilarious 😂
I REMEMBER THAT ONE!!!
I know I'm late, but does anyone have the link to that?
i'm even later, but i too, would like that link
24 fires set, easily killing battle ships - this is just wrong
then you realize fires are 100% healable.
and you can kill a BB much faster with Hinden, Mino, etc
@@danh7411 100% healable doesn't mean one heal will restore all your HP. It varies between nations, but one BB heal restores 14% of your HP generally. One perma-fire eats 20% of the health of a BB.
You can slightly improve these numbers with flags and captain skills, but overall, one perma-fire roughly eats one heal in most scenarios. If you have two perma-fires, and are low HP you will go down even if healing.
In terms of theoretical HE dpm of Smolensk is 2 times that of Hindi. And even practically, if you look at the effective damage output of the salvos in this video, he was managing ~2K per HE salvo, by comparison, Hindi can put ~4K per HE salvo in practice (slightly more on unsaturated parts, less if saturated), but Smolensk can put out almost 3 salvos by the time Hindi reloads. And that's ignoring the ludicrous fire chances.
AP is also quite nasty, you see 4K to 8K damages on BBs, Hindi can manage 12K, but again, at a lower rate of fire.
Minotor is a bit like Smolensk and can actually deal a bit more damages, but can't ignite multiple fires.
Smolensk is also weirdly able to tank shells at close range thanks to overpens where the Mino can get dev strikes easily.
Lastly aiming with the Smolensk is way easier compared to the Mino thanks to the faster shells.
Fire is the death of any ship. Always has been, always will be, whether on water or in space ;)
@@kakwa and don't you think that in this battle scenario with those BBs and Alaskas, Hinden with 50mm HE pen will have much better effective DPM and therefore have better results?
Damn, his trigger finger most be powerfull. Bet his girlfriend is very happy with it :P
Great vid as always jingles.
Best wishes for 2021
Pretty sure it would be a Boyfriend...
"This is not, the most damage in NA.... It's only a tribute..."
Underrated comment lol
Whilst I give the player credit for doing an extremely good job playing the Smolensk. The reality is ships like the smolensk, are the reason I stopped playing WOWS.
There are countless comments like this and I don't blame ye.
Gotta love Jingles description. "That's how you get an armor piercing hit on a Smolensk. The armor piercing round travels the length of the ship and has time to detonate in the superstructure ". Your a gunner in the rear turret of a Smolensk happily working away when a 16" round decides to come through the back turret wall and say "hello".
This is y I stopped playing this game for 10 minutes this dude just sat in one sector of the map and clicked a button.... takes no skill wows is such a meme dude😂😂
I haven’t watched this yet but I’m sure I’m going to find it extremely disturbing!
ahh the magic smolensk - good game and also the reason i left wows :)
Jingles, stop promoting cancer ships ! You are already cursing 2021, haven't you heard of that terrible 2020 year of the CV already?
Me before watching this.
"Wow, that's a lot of dislikes. Wonder why."
*Sees the boat*
"Oh I see now."
This ship needs to be removed
Smolensk game now? Really ... Like 2020 never ended😊
Never before have I wanted the “hero” of one of these videos to get sunk, so badly.
Could just be that he wanted t9 mm so went with a t9 dd
Yeah nothing wrong with the balance of the game..... this is one of the reasons i uninstalled....
Kaga actually gets 200mm secondary guns; the same ones as the stock guns on the Furutaka
Sure, she also has some 127mm ones but no 100mm guns
...Jingles, what are you doing with that shotgun?
Bfk is a great player. My pp has grown by 5mm since i started watching his streams and my winrate is skyrocketing. But honestly, hes a hilarious guy and its really entertaining to watch him play
Gosh ! It's videos like this that make me really want to play this game !
Not.
It can be fun but the other users are a55holes. All critics and big mouths when you don't play they way they want. And avoid ranked battles. All stressed out cry babies
Hahahahaha, too right.
smolenskin a smoke and arty are on the same level of entertainment
This player: You see it's really facking simple. While your guns go pew pew my guns go brrrrrrrrrt *all the way to 1500 hits*
Also this game is proof no matter how good you are. How well you play. You can't carry stupid always.
Ah womble. So many good quotes (Cyanide too)
Man, it must be nice to not have like 4 ships in range and not fire a single shot at you for 7 full minutes
Watching paint dry is more fun than watching this video jingles.....
Funny thing is, had that Alaska at the start turned in, rather than out, he'd have been in radar range and plenty of ships could have shot him... One single decision made such a big difference
This is exactly what is wrong with this game, OP ships that never existed during the time period covered by the game, that have these magical guns that do way more damage than they could ever have done in reality. Pair that with a Div mate who is feeding you smokes and spotting for you, and you see why high teir game play is just broken for most solo players. The other interesting thing is how he doesn’t miss a single slavo, they all had a shell hit something. This ship should have never been put into the game. I don’t blame the player, it’s not his fault, congrats to him on the good round.
Yay jingles is back from his little break was getting bored of watching old videos
It's actually quite easy Jingles, the reason a T9 divs up with a T10 is because the cances of getting into a T10 battle whilst playing a T9 are astronomically high anyway.
And when you're facing higher tier opponents than you, you get more XP out of the damage you do. So basically it doesn't really matter.
Why THAT Fletcher? Because that is an alt account in a clan comprised of very good super unicums that hunt CVs. You could put them all in tugboats and they would somehow win most of the time.
Yeah 🤣
I was just going through old videos XD
hee jingles i hope you and your wife have a healthy 2021
I quit playing this version of the game after this ship came out and console(xbox legends) version became available.
Glad to see some warships vids. With the guy from Croatia deciding to not do WOWS vids much anymore,,, and you on holiday,,, I needed a fix.
Stopped Playing World of HE Spam a month ago. Much less stress.
Game is pure bullshit recently and getting steadily worse. I find myself playing less and less.
I quit a long time ago. The game was kinda fun for a while, but now it seems that it's just getting worse and worse with every patch.
Smolensk ? Can I have one from the Royal Navy or Kriegsmarine, it would have 1/4th HE pen and would pen 32mm naturally. Sounds super balanced, I swear.
How players are allowed to get away with what this guy did in this match is beyond me. The enemy team had no chance. So blatantly unfair. I probably would've used all of my reports for the day against BFK and his division mate. Absolutely disgusting.
yeah, but he needed his Fletcher buddy to do all that damage. Would my top damage in a ship count if everyone on the other team was AFK and I killed them all? How about if I had buddies in all the ships on the enemy team and they let me kill them? I know those are two extreme examples, but they fall in the same category: if I bring other people into a match for the purpose to inflate my damage done, should it count at the same level as someone who accomplished the same task solo?
t10s diving with t9s are just abusing MM to get guaranteed top tier matches. an absolute scum thing to do. no surprise it's top clans doing it since they're just a bunch of PR farmers. obviously there was no malicious intent in you promoting this behavior but unfortunate all the same
Thanks, Jingles. Now everybody and their mother is going to get their Smolenk back out again and we're going to have to deal with it for weeks. I'm seriously considering mashing the dislike button.
You are kind of subconsciously asking for dislikes by uploading a Smolensk high dmg game🤬I hate this ship!! So unbalanced!!
Wow. I need a shower. I feel dirty.
And poeple ask why I switched to blitz, because this shit dos the happen there that's why! Imagine actualy having fun in your game.
Big damage but boring to watch; no need to spread HE spam. I expect the next vid to be a smolensk getting in constant knife fights to earn a Kraken, now that would be entertaining.
Wait... did Jingles call all the ships by their correct name and type? What is this magic?
it involves zero skills to sit comfortably inside a smoke and HE spam. I wonder how this bfk for life guy would do with non-he spam ships.
Ibuki did it's part by chewig down the health of the first Alaska
Video number Idon'tevenremember as to why I don't play WoWs anymore. This game started decent and has become hot garbage.
Remove thunder smolensk stalingrad smaland fdr riechtoven ie balance
no no no just nerf it
And this is why WOWS is losing players. So much fun had by the opposing team...
Njet problem, normal balans
I just quit the game yesterday. This video makes me glad I did. Thanks Jingles.
lol
Soviet ship. I will not comment that. :)
Well, I enjoyed seeing the Benham get blasted in this “fun and engaging” display at least.
I knew skipping my afternoon nap would be worth it
first it's russian op shit thrower ships. but for tactics of concealment a good match up.
every time I watch a replay like this with a smolensk afterwards I always have an overwhelming urge to take a long shower
NA is so full of potatoes I’m not surprised he was able to get away with this without anyone actually attempting to punish him or reduce the amount of targets available to him.
EU server is much harder than NA server
Smolensk is like seal clubbing at TX
I've always hated facing off against a Smolensk, unless you can focus them down or sneak some torps in on it you should just avoid the damned things.
Stupid broken ship
Please hide this it will be used as evidence for buffing cv’s
Jingles: *doesn’t feature videos if the player is pink 10,000 times out of 10,000*
Also Jingles: “oh he streams and is in O7 it’s going to be hard to smell anything after I make this video and it won’t be due to the Rona, don’t mind that he’s pink”
And people complain about carriers, when this ship still is in the game..... (and Thunderer).
At least once you get the thunderer caught with its pants down it is dead. This ship tends to be overpened and has smoke so it has very much the potential to get away.