My Dialog cc came with one cartridge instead of box of a box of 5. My unit is black with a Broad nib. I did get the leather pouch and booklet. The trap door seal isn’t airtight which explains why you do get a slight hard start. I’ve been using Pelikan Schwartz black ink. I like the weight and girth.
It looks so modern and the color looks satiny and deep. But it also reminds me of a pepperoni stick. I must still be hungry. The nib seemed pretty good after the adjustment. I'll be tuned in tomorrow for the nib swap!
Great addition seeing you talking while doing the review, thanks for all your great reviews, there’s a lot of love (you can play “Whole Lotta Love” while reading) on every piece that you produce and great humor.
Good review. I owned a Lamy Dialog 3 a while ago and sold it. The issue is that it dried up after 2 or 3 days. It has to do with the retractable ball design - not completely sealed.
Hi Doug, thanks for the review - classy as always! I wasn't surprised to hear your criticisms re the Dialog cc - it's shorter than the Dialog 3, but still definitely a girthy pen! Mine is a wet writer, too, especially for EF - but I quite like it that way. Hope you're able to enjoy it for its good qualities, despite the drawbacks - I'll be interested to see if it grows on you over time!
I like it because it is cool looking and a cool gadget. But you know how some pens just make your handwriting seem effortless and beautiful? This ain't that.
@@InkquiringMinds Thus far I feel the same way, it's definitely a cool pen, but I have other pens that write better. Sad to say my favourite capless pen right now is the Majohn clipless "copy" of the Pilot VP...
Thank you for including the Momento Zero Grande as a benchmark for what grips you consider comfortable. That was a helpful aspect of the review. I seem to have a higher ceiling on what's comfortable for me. I was able to make a comparison with my Maiora Alpha, which I find girthy but still comfortable. This gave me the confidence to try out the Lamy Dialog. Wish me luck!
Great review Doug!! I've never really thought much of Lamy as far as looks. The safari or AL is about the only pen that looks decent enough to me that I'd buy from them. I know so many people love Lamy, but they just aren't for me looks wise. I like the nib you got with this Lamy for it's flex. I just got a Conklin Mark Twain Crescent filler in vintage green. It was either that or a Pilot E-95S. I chose the Mark Twain because at 82 dollars U.S. I couldn't pass it up, not for that price when some are going for 140 dollars. The next day it went back to 125 dollars haha The E-95S will be my next pen for sure. I also got the Mark Twain in a fine nib. I took it out and ordered a rose gold Omni-flex nib and assembly from Goulet pens. It looks amazing and more vintage with a gold looking nib than the black one it came with. Love this nib. It's not as flexible probably as a Pilot Falcon or the FA nib in the Pilot Custom 912, but it's rather bouncy and I can get some decent line variation with it. I also bought a set of Iroshizuku Inks. It came with three different 15ml glass bottles of ink. Kon-Peki, Take-Sumi, and Tsuki-Yo. I put the Kon Peki in my Mark Twain and love it. Should of listened to your gushing over it a long time ago. I put the Take-Sumi in my Conklin cracked ice duragraph and love it as well. Can't wait to try the Tsuki-Yo. It really does seem like the Iroshizuku inks are well lubricated and just more slippery through feeds and nibs. Feels like my nibs are more smooth with those inks running through them too. Do you have any recommendations on red ink? I want a deep red not a dark or maroon color I already have Oxblood. I want like a nice really red, red color Like a Cardinal Bird. Thanks for the reviews and keep them coming.
Thanks for sharing, William! You already have my favourite reddish ink; Oxblood. The Iroshizuku inks are incredible and Kon-Peki is by far my favourite of the collection.
Thanks for this review. I’d been thinking of purchasing this pen and your review gave me some pause, as I don’t particularly like a wet nib, and I’m certainly not as brave as you to start tuning one, however, the beauty and the engineering has me won over and I think I’ll go ahead and pull the trigger. Thanks again
Thank you, Doug. It is a very informative review. I had considered purchasing this pen but like you my hands are medium - small. Such a large width of the barrel without any contour would not be for me. My largest width pen is the Sailor King of Pen and is a joy to use. I thought I would get the Leonardo Momento Zero Grande and your recommendation makes me convinced that is the way to go.
Nice pen - beauty of a nib. I think the "visual effect" of the pen looking slimmer is because of the colors. Darker colors will always make things look slimmer / smaller. White will always make things bigger than they are.
This is my most (and the only) desirable Lamy, but I was relieved when you said it’s a little too chunky.. I couldn’t have comfortably held this in my small hand.. More importantly I had to sell my property to afford it here in India 😉
Hi Doug, first off, Happy Birthday for the other day c: I'm sorry I haven't communicated in ages having a few mental health issues and problems at work (hospitality blues). Anyways, so now you're a GoldSpot spokesperson. Does this mean you're going to save Tom (a reference to Pen Boy Roy's podcast, haha)? Chels
Your reviews are always appreciated. In comparison I have a Dialogue 3 as well as the knock off. I have a love hate with my Dialogue. The nib fails to stay wet overnight which is a major pet peeve of mine on any fountain pen, but even more so on a vp style pen. I also agree on the width. It's just a little too wide overall. As for the knock off. it's 'ok.' It actually seals a little better than the original...meaning I can get two days before the nib goes dry. I simplly dont have this issue with my Pilot VPs or even the 2 Majohn A1s I have. I have found the EF Majohn nib handles Noodlers 54th Mass so well for my writing, I just ordered another.
It´s one of these pens that I wanted to like but couldn´t. With this series Lamy somehow lost track of "form follows function". The Lamy Studio Palladium or the Lamy Studio lx all-black are wonderful pens though.
I’ve been on the fence for a while about swapping my Dialog 3 Matt Black for the newer Lamy CC Navy but you’ve persuaded me not to. My May pen list is now culled to two; the Leo Mosaico Hawaii and the Pelikan M605 Tortoiseshell Black. Thanks for helping my decision making.
Hi, I have a Lamy Studio with a steel F nib and an Lamy 2000 with a M nib, both write flawless but the 2000 glides on the pages, I been thinking on buying a retractable pen but seeing your review I think I will go with a Pilot Vanishing Point, I don't want to write with a pipe! Thank you for the review, Best regards from Romania!
Thanks again. So the Lamy Safari disappointed me but this one has my attention. Love the thumbnail insert of you speaking with us, and it never ceases to amaze me of your encyclopedic knowledge of appropriate film clips. And lastly, "....all my loops were filled in." I have that problem too but people say it makes me an interesting person!
I have 3 lamy pens but in the normal configuration,i have looked at all Lamy twist action pens & they look to me like you are writing with a stick of rock which i would find to cumbersome.
Hi Doug very good review as always. The pen itself seems like a well designed pen that’s thoughtfully put together and writes beautifully. I do agree with you that I prefer the VP style of pen to this (having also held a fake dialog) the way the vp fills my hand vs this is much more pleasant to write with over longer writing sessions. Lamy built a really nice pen. The pen is just not for me. It is a very beautiful shade of blue though
Hello, Doug! On my journey of the fountain pen world, I was finally ready to face the utilitarian purposes of a clickable fountain pen. I watched your vod on the Moonman replica and considered it as an option, until your review of its nib was in. I took a hard “No” stance at that point. Even though it is so much cheaper than the Vanishing Point! The Curidas was also a no for me. Too clunky, plastic, and a very long Knock. Along with the cracking issues I’ve heard about. In the end I decided on the Vanishing Point. Is it exactly what I was hoping for? Not really. It fulfills the need and want of a click pen. But I wish it came in more finishes that are more affordable. The Decimo has many finished but is thinner and not metal. So I will sit and consider one of those in future. Doug, you’re honesty and consideration is always so very welcomed. Cheers
I have had an Esterbrook J come in a homemade box that size... And I still don't get a box big enough to double as a steamer trunk... Doesn't make the pen write any different. Any sort of retractable nib pen, except maybe a vintage safety pen, really doesn't trip my trigger, and most Lamy are just not my taste, but they do a generally good job (nibs seem to be hit or miss on occasion.) Good thing that there is enough types of pens out there today for everyone to get something that they like. Hope you enjoy your Dialog CC! Eventually.
The box the big Lamy box came in looked like it was from Amazon. You know, you order a stick of gum and it comes in a shipping container with one piece of bubble wrap.
@@InkquiringMinds Same thing happens with eBay. 😁 When you order something tiny, it's regularly in an air freight size container that would hold a V8 engine. And like you said, a tiny bit of bubble wrap. Or enough bubble wrap to plug the Pacific ocean... And 84 layers of packing tape... For no discernable reason...
@@paulherman5822 At least I've found a way to get into those bubble wrap bricks with the one, not in a box, pen inside. I just cut the end off and extract the pen from the cocoon without having to unravel miles of bubble wrap.
@@InkquiringMinds With a frankly indestructible Esterbrook, there's usually cardboard, tape, Saran wrap, Ziploc bags, bubble wrap, and miles of packing tape. To "protect" a pen that rattled around worse than what the postal service can do for about 50 years before it was mailed to me, in the back of a desk drawer. 😁 I love the few that just use a padded envelope and nothing else.
Thanks for the candid review! The design aesthetic vs the Vanishing Point for the price point was a huge turn-off for me; hearing your talk about the difficulties with the writing experience was quite eye opening also. Do you find that it dries out quickly if you’re not using it often? Or is the seal good enough to keep it wet and primed if put down for days at a time?
It's $439 on their website... I order it from somewhere else but return it, it was disappointing at $351... lots of hard starts, very unacceptable at that price point
Mm, nah! The pen also needs to fit in my stands. I learned from a huge Ranga pen, that not being able to place it in my stands is very annoying. That gold nib though… maybe…
I can understand their anger over Moonman/Majohn as they clone some pens so they are equal to the original (M800, A1) but Narwhal? I think TWSBI thinks Narwhal has copied their filling mechanism. But until thousands of customers start complaining of cracked plastic, it isn't a copy of a TWSBI.
In general I just do not appreciate the retractable pens, so I have not used either the Vanishing Point, the Dialog, or the Platinum (I forgot the name). Your review just reinforced my aversion. Actually I thank you for that fact because I will not waste any more money on this hobby! :)
If I were still going to the office everyday, the Pilot VP would be the pen of choice. But I'm mainly a desk pen person now and don't need that convenience.
I checked the price of this Dialog CC in my country... with the same price tag I felt Leonardo Officina Italiana Momento Grande is much more worth it. So I will pass this, lol.. In fact Lamy design and price tag do not appeal to me at all.
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Nothing like quality, friends, review and 🖊 pens. Thank you Doug.
Right on! Thanks, Wendy!
Sooooo BlueTiful!! You can always be the only kid on the block who has a Safari with a beautiful gold nib.
True. But why? LOL
My Dialog cc came with one cartridge instead of box of a box of 5. My unit is black with a Broad nib. I did get the leather pouch and booklet. The trap door seal isn’t airtight which explains why you do get a slight hard start. I’ve been using Pelikan Schwartz black ink. I like the weight and girth.
Thank you for sharing this!
It looks so modern and the color looks satiny and deep. But it also reminds me of a pepperoni stick. I must still be hungry. The nib seemed pretty good after the adjustment. I'll be tuned in tomorrow for the nib swap!
It doesn't taste like pepperoni1
@@InkquiringMinds Too bad 🍕
wow. that`s a piece of art.
I was waiting to see when you’d review this pen! Thanks!
My pleasure!
Great addition seeing you talking while doing the review, thanks for all your great reviews, there’s a lot of love (you can play “Whole Lotta Love” while reading) on every piece that you produce and great humor.
Much appreciated!
Another great review, Doug. I appreciate your honesty when reviewing your pens. Nice classy pen you've got there. 👍👍
Thank you kindly!
Good review. I owned a Lamy Dialog 3 a while ago and sold it. The issue is that it dried up after 2 or 3 days. It has to do with the retractable ball design - not completely sealed.
Hi Doug, thanks for the review - classy as always! I wasn't surprised to hear your criticisms re the Dialog cc - it's shorter than the Dialog 3, but still definitely a girthy pen! Mine is a wet writer, too, especially for EF - but I quite like it that way. Hope you're able to enjoy it for its good qualities, despite the drawbacks - I'll be interested to see if it grows on you over time!
I like it because it is cool looking and a cool gadget. But you know how some pens just make your handwriting seem effortless and beautiful? This ain't that.
@@InkquiringMinds Thus far I feel the same way, it's definitely a cool pen, but I have other pens that write better. Sad to say my favourite capless pen right now is the Majohn clipless "copy" of the Pilot VP...
@@jamerelbe The A1 is an excellent clone. Like the M800 as well.
Thank you for including the Momento Zero Grande as a benchmark for what grips you consider comfortable. That was a helpful aspect of the review. I seem to have a higher ceiling on what's comfortable for me. I was able to make a comparison with my Maiora Alpha, which I find girthy but still comfortable. This gave me the confidence to try out the Lamy Dialog. Wish me luck!
Glad it was helpful!
Great review Doug!! I've never really thought much of Lamy as far as looks. The safari or AL is about the only pen that looks decent enough to me that I'd buy from them. I know so many people love Lamy, but they just aren't for me looks wise. I like the nib you got with this Lamy for it's flex. I just got a Conklin Mark Twain Crescent filler in vintage green. It was either that or a Pilot E-95S. I chose the Mark Twain because at 82 dollars U.S. I couldn't pass it up, not for that price when some are going for 140 dollars. The next day it went back to 125 dollars haha The E-95S will be my next pen for sure. I also got the Mark Twain in a fine nib. I took it out and ordered a rose gold Omni-flex nib and assembly from Goulet pens. It looks amazing and more vintage with a gold looking nib than the black one it came with. Love this nib. It's not as flexible probably as a Pilot Falcon or the FA nib in the Pilot Custom 912, but it's rather bouncy and I can get some decent line variation with it. I also bought a set of Iroshizuku Inks. It came with three different 15ml glass bottles of ink. Kon-Peki, Take-Sumi, and Tsuki-Yo. I put the Kon Peki in my Mark Twain and love it. Should of listened to your gushing over it a long time ago. I put the Take-Sumi in my Conklin cracked ice duragraph and love it as well. Can't wait to try the Tsuki-Yo. It really does seem like the Iroshizuku inks are well lubricated and just more slippery through feeds and nibs. Feels like my nibs are more smooth with those inks running through them too. Do you have any recommendations on red ink? I want a deep red not a dark or maroon color I already have Oxblood. I want like a nice really red, red color Like a Cardinal Bird. Thanks for the reviews and keep them coming.
Thanks for sharing, William! You already have my favourite reddish ink; Oxblood. The Iroshizuku inks are incredible and Kon-Peki is by far my favourite of the collection.
@@InkquiringMinds Oxblood is still one of my favorite inks and it was my very first I bought! I'm thinking Of Pelikan Edelstein Garnet.
Thanks for this review. I’d been thinking of purchasing this pen and your review gave me some pause, as I don’t particularly like a wet nib, and I’m certainly not as brave as you to start tuning one, however, the beauty and the engineering has me won over and I think I’ll go ahead and pull the trigger. Thanks again
The best thing about Lamy is how these nibs are so easy to exchange. I hope you enjoy yours!
Thank you, Doug. It is a very informative review. I had considered purchasing this pen but like you my hands are medium - small. Such a large width of the barrel without any contour would not be for me. My largest width pen is the Sailor King of Pen and is a joy to use. I thought I would get the Leonardo Momento Zero Grande and your recommendation makes me convinced that is the way to go.
The Sailor KOP's grip section is still a full millimeter less than the Lamy Dialog.
@@InkquiringMinds to use the vernacular, damn!
What about the MZG Grande?
Nice pen - beauty of a nib.
I think the "visual effect" of the pen looking slimmer is because of the colors.
Darker colors will always make things look slimmer / smaller. White will always make things bigger than they are.
I agree 100%.
This is my most (and the only) desirable Lamy, but I was relieved when you said it’s a little too chunky.. I couldn’t have comfortably held this in my small hand.. More importantly I had to sell my property to afford it here in India 😉
Yeah that's pricey!
Hi Doug, first off, Happy Birthday for the other day c: I'm sorry I haven't communicated in ages having a few mental health issues and problems at work (hospitality blues). Anyways, so now you're a GoldSpot spokesperson. Does this mean you're going to save Tom (a reference to Pen Boy Roy's podcast, haha)?
Chels
Glad to see you back Chels. I doubt I'll be saving Tom from anything! LOL
Congratulations on your new acquisition 😀
Thank you! 😁
Your reviews are always appreciated. In comparison I have a Dialogue 3 as well as the knock off. I have a love hate with my Dialogue. The nib fails to stay wet overnight which is a major pet peeve of mine on any fountain pen, but even more so on a vp style pen. I also agree on the width. It's just a little too wide overall. As for the knock off. it's 'ok.' It actually seals a little better than the original...meaning I can get two days before the nib goes dry. I simplly dont have this issue with my Pilot VPs or even the 2 Majohn A1s I have. I have found the EF Majohn nib handles Noodlers 54th Mass so well for my writing, I just ordered another.
The A1 is one of the best clones MaJohn makes. As is the M800.
@@RBartsy Vanishing Point
@@RBartsy Pilot Vanishing Point retractable pen.
It´s one of these pens that I wanted to like but couldn´t. With this series Lamy somehow lost track of "form follows function". The Lamy Studio Palladium or the Lamy Studio lx all-black are wonderful pens though.
Witty and informative. My thanks for another great review.
I’ve been on the fence for a while about swapping my Dialog 3 Matt Black for the newer Lamy CC Navy but you’ve persuaded me not to. My May pen list is now culled to two; the Leo Mosaico Hawaii and the Pelikan M605 Tortoiseshell Black. Thanks for helping my decision making.
That's a tough choice between the Leo and the Pelikan! The Pelikan is 14k gold though.
thank you for this video, I can know about this dialog cc despite not owning it.
Thank you Yomin Rak. That is much appreciated!
Great review, as usual! I dunno ... I'm still liking the looks of my Dialog 3 more than this one. Oh well, to each, their own, I guess.
Fair enough! Thanks, Dave!
Hi, I have a Lamy Studio with a steel F nib and an Lamy 2000 with a M nib, both write flawless but the 2000 glides on the pages, I been thinking on buying a retractable pen but seeing your review I think I will go with a Pilot Vanishing Point, I don't want to write with a pipe! Thank you for the review, Best regards from Romania!
Cheers from Canada!
Thanks again. So the Lamy Safari disappointed me but this one has my attention. Love the thumbnail insert of you speaking with us, and it never ceases to amaze me of your encyclopedic knowledge of appropriate film clips. And lastly, "....all my loops were filled in." I have that problem too but people say it makes me an interesting person!
Thank you MrCabimero. That is much appreciated!
I have 3 lamy pens but in the normal configuration,i have looked at all Lamy twist action pens & they look to me like you are writing with a stick of rock which i would find to cumbersome.
It is a stick alright!
Hi Doug very good review as always.
The pen itself seems like a well designed pen that’s thoughtfully put together and writes beautifully. I do agree with you that I prefer the VP style of pen to this (having also held a fake dialog) the way the vp fills my hand vs this is much more pleasant to write with over longer writing sessions. Lamy built a really nice pen. The pen is just not for me.
It is a very beautiful shade of blue though
Totally agree!
Great review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Hello, Doug!
On my journey of the fountain pen world, I was finally ready to face the utilitarian purposes of a clickable fountain pen.
I watched your vod on the Moonman replica and considered it as an option, until your review of its nib was in. I took a hard “No” stance at that point. Even though it is so much cheaper than the Vanishing Point!
The Curidas was also a no for me. Too clunky, plastic, and a very long Knock. Along with the cracking issues I’ve heard about.
In the end I decided on the Vanishing Point. Is it exactly what I was hoping for? Not really. It fulfills the need and want of a click pen. But I wish it came in more finishes that are more affordable.
The Decimo has many finished but is thinner and not metal. So I will sit and consider one of those in future.
Doug, you’re honesty and consideration is always so very welcomed.
Cheers
Thanks for sharing, SoulWatcher Paranormal !
I have had an Esterbrook J come in a homemade box that size... And I still don't get a box big enough to double as a steamer trunk... Doesn't make the pen write any different.
Any sort of retractable nib pen, except maybe a vintage safety pen, really doesn't trip my trigger, and most Lamy are just not my taste, but they do a generally good job (nibs seem to be hit or miss on occasion.) Good thing that there is enough types of pens out there today for everyone to get something that they like. Hope you enjoy your Dialog CC! Eventually.
The box the big Lamy box came in looked like it was from Amazon. You know, you order a stick of gum and it comes in a shipping container with one piece of bubble wrap.
@@InkquiringMinds Same thing happens with eBay. 😁
When you order something tiny, it's regularly in an air freight size container that would hold a V8 engine. And like you said, a tiny bit of bubble wrap. Or enough bubble wrap to plug the Pacific ocean...
And 84 layers of packing tape... For no discernable reason...
@@paulherman5822 At least I've found a way to get into those bubble wrap bricks with the one, not in a box, pen inside. I just cut the end off and extract the pen from the cocoon without having to unravel miles of bubble wrap.
@@InkquiringMinds With a frankly indestructible Esterbrook, there's usually cardboard, tape, Saran wrap, Ziploc bags, bubble wrap, and miles of packing tape. To "protect" a pen that rattled around worse than what the postal service can do for about 50 years before it was mailed to me, in the back of a desk drawer. 😁
I love the few that just use a padded envelope and nothing else.
Thanks for the candid review! The design aesthetic vs the Vanishing Point for the price point was a huge turn-off for me; hearing your talk about the difficulties with the writing experience was quite eye opening also.
Do you find that it dries out quickly if you’re not using it often? Or is the seal good enough to keep it wet and primed if put down for days at a time?
I haven't used it for a week and just tried now because of your question. Wrote first time, no issue. Very wet.
It's $439 on their website... I order it from somewhere else but return it, it was disappointing at $351... lots of hard starts, very unacceptable at that price point
Ouch!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks, Tic Tac!
How does this blue one compare to the Piano White version?
I don’t know. I’ve never held the white one.
thanks fir the review,
Mm, nah! The pen also needs to fit in my stands. I learned from a huge Ranga pen, that not being able to place it in my stands is very annoying. That gold nib though… maybe…
I got a Rickshaw 3 pen sleeve for my oversized pens; Ranga 3C, Ranga 4C and Opus 88 Bela.
@@InkquiringMinds, I just measured my horizontal stands; it will fit.
Just out of curiosity, what is your view of the Twsbi ultimatum on pulling their pens from retailers that sell Moonman / Majohn and Narwharl?
I can understand their anger over Moonman/Majohn as they clone some pens so they are equal to the original (M800, A1) but Narwhal? I think TWSBI thinks Narwhal has copied their filling mechanism. But until thousands of customers start complaining of cracked plastic, it isn't a copy of a TWSBI.
I've heard some people prefer the older style nibs, with the breather hole. Did you find any difference you would ascribe to the versions?
I don't think it has any affect on the nib performance even though this one is super soft.
I have all of Lamy's gold nibs. This one, the Z58, is the springiest of them all.
In general I just do not appreciate the retractable pens, so I have not used either the Vanishing Point, the Dialog, or the Platinum (I forgot the name). Your review just reinforced my aversion. Actually I thank you for that fact because I will not waste any more money on this hobby! :)
If I were still going to the office everyday, the Pilot VP would be the pen of choice. But I'm mainly a desk pen person now and don't need that convenience.
Look into "The Hypnotic Eye" .... ⚠🚫
'Throw Momma From The Train'..... 😸
Thank you Star Gazer. Glad you liked it!
So not so much of a baseball bat as the Dialog 3; better suited for rounders, perhaps? 😄
Still feels like a bread-stick! LOL
Great review as always, too bad such a cool pen wasn’t to your liking
It is a VERY cool pen. My writing says different though.
iinsane view. take care! =)
I checked the price of this Dialog CC in my country... with the same price tag I felt Leonardo Officina Italiana Momento Grande is much more worth it. So I will pass this, lol.. In fact Lamy design and price tag do not appeal to me at all.
There is no question the Leo is the better choice!