the thing about the lead singers is that the vocal style is extremely common for 80s new wave bands, so just going by "this guy has a similar voice" isn't really much of a lead
@@MrLapapa5 All bands sound the same in any particular time period. That's why you can say you like let's say 60's rock or rap from the 90's because every artist sounded similar at that particular time. And on the other hand, if you tell someone to listen to anything and tell them how this sounds so similar to something else, human brain automatically starts to find similarities. It's a common phenomenon so it's not really a solid proof.
The only explanation for no one coming out to claim it is that it was possibly a one-man band (which is really common) and the guy has passed many years ago, and if he had a band mate, he just does not use internet, as many people still don't do, especially older people, and thus cannot be reached to claim and explain the song.
@@chrisbole8339 at least we have the complete song to listen to and admire, and it being a sad post-punk song with unknown origins just adds a true aura of post-punk melancholy to it, unlike the other lost song known as Everyone Knows That, that only a few seconds exist and everything regarding it is a complete dead end.
I don't agree. This song is way too complex and thought through. It's technically on professional level of complexity. It's impossible it was some amateur. It must have been some collab between bands that is yet to be discovered among those trashy german EPs that are sold by volume.
@@kubastachu9860 ?!? So a one-man band can't be complex, well thought and technical? Dude, there are so many one-man bands in metal with better songs, have more professional and well-produced songs and sound than famous big bands. Some of the best bands I've listened to back in the day were one-man bands, and some of the most beloved too. What are you talking about? lmao
@@olliegoria You can do that on UA-cam. You might not win the case, but you can cause the uploader a lot of grief until they settle. I suppose you can do that in other environments, too. They've ruled out Ronnie on the TMS subreddit, for some very good reasons that I don't know.
I was a musician in Vienna in the 1980's, here are a few thoughts: - The song itself: it uses a very common chord progression that was repeated on many songs of that time, over and over again. It is what an amateur band of the time in Austria or Germany etc. would likely have used. There is a second part in the song, not really a bridge though, so this sounds like the "flagship" song of some unknown band that never made it. However, the scraped enough money together to pay for a recording studio. That was quite common at the time, and since studios were expensive, it is possible that they recorded two songs only for the front and back of a single. Or, another thing that wasn't uncommon, this could have been their only song, which was released on a sampler LP. If it is the latter, it is probably next to impossible to find it, at least without skimming through endless records and reading the fine print. - Production quality: it sounds like it was recorded in a proper studio, as opposed to a basement or garage. As for the synth, that might have been there in the studio, for rent. The drums are definitely not top notch, just listen to the hi-hat. The mixing is also not great, which points to the band doing everything themselves (you could hire a sound technician as well... then it would probably sound better). - Musicians: these are most likely not professionals, at least not anywhere close to high-end. Think about the elaborate guitar solos common in the 1980's, and their guitarist just strums the same notes. It's probably the best he could do. Same with the synth, a hallmark of the 1980's, there is so much more that a professional band could and would have done with this synth. - Recording technique: one thing that is mentioned in the video is that back then, each track was recorded individually. So I think it is possible that a drummer would not recognize or remember a song after he recorded his part (happened to me too). That is not proof, of course, but something to keep in mind. Sometimes bands would break up before the record was finished. - NDR1 "Musik für junge Leute": some episodes are up on youtube; their focus seems to have been to play underground music and/or unknown artists. The production quality of most songs was mich higher than for the "mysterious song", as well as the musical complexity. Since the song was played on radio only once (?), it is possible that someone asked a favor from his or her cousins or friends, or through some other connections (we did that too). Then the band split up, people got real jobs, and they stopped thinking about this song. So it could just be that they haven't watched this video... :)
This is pretty much what I’ve been thinking too. Most likely some friends somewhere in Europe back in the early to mid 80s got together and made a band for a while, recorded a track or two, split up after not very long, moved on with their lives, and forgot about most of it. Any tracks they made/songs they wrote faded into obscurity, and it was just by some fluke that the internet happened to find one of their songs and make it blow up online, decades later. I’m ok with never knowing who made this song, we now have the full track and that’s good enough for me, because it’s a great song!
I think it's just CF being overly cautious? I saw a similar vid abt TMS a couple weeks ago that played the song in full nesr the beginning and afaik that's still up
I think he was referring to the song he was comparing it to. I've seen multiple videos playing the whole song, and they've never been claimed. Even sparking jokes about how you know it's mysterious when even UA-cam doesn't give you a strike on behalf of Sony or Warner Chappell.
I rented a DX7 for a weekend in 1984 to record some songs with some friends. And we weren't any known band. In that time period it was pretty easy to get access to a DX7 without having to have been a well known band.
I think the price of the DX-7 is over emphasized. Every musician knows someone who spends all of their money on better gear. More importantly, the keyboard parts are not especially complicated nor are they essential to the song. It's very possible the DX-7 was something owned by the studio where they cut the song.
You seem to have missed the point. It’s not that you couldn’t put your hands on it if you weren’t famous, but, rather, WHEN. I also raised this point back when Whang did a video about this song. While the DX7 was released in 1983, at first it was only available in Japan. There was an insane amount of demand for it from all over the world, and even if you were famous, you were part of a line. It took until 1984 for the DX7 to finally be readily available elsewhere - and THEN you may have had the chance to put your hands on one. Therefore, it’s unrealistic to consider that this song is from 1983, when even some iconic names from the industry weren’t easily getting their units. THAT was the point.
Radio stations have been archiving their music since they began. They know its most likely at NDR. Surely someone currently working there would be curious enough to start digging around those dates. It's there somewhere.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they taped over it, it seems like a relatively small and unknown song so there would be no reason to keep the master tape for a small artist
@@GladeSwope looks like it was both "Between approximately 1967 and 1978, large quantities of videotape and film stored in the BBC's Engineering department and film libraries were wiped or destroyed to make way for newer programmes.[1] This happened for several reasons, primarily the belief that there was no practical value to its retention."
Tbf I was a heavy drug user when I was musician and I forgot a lot of things I did when I was a drug addict that decades later remembered when people told me about it
Makes sense. I mean, just look at David Bowie. Because all the stuff he was doing he didn't even remember having recorded Station to Station. Just, memory-holed out
Awesome video and very up to date. Considering how old this song is, we might be running out of time, but I hope we get to know the answer. Thanks for the shout-out!
If you got a DMCA strike - wouldn't that tell you who *filled* the claim, and therefore who owns the rights to the song? I mean you can't get a DMCA strike from no one.
@ChadWSmith I uploaded it to my channel and got a copyright claim, but it doesn't give you information on who owns the copyright. You could go ahead and try it yourself and see what happens. A claim is not the same as a strike. In a claim, the owner allows you to use the song. I kept the video private but the AI found out there was a claim on it.
@@Psalm1267 Maybe it's an anonymous copyright troll making false claims without providing any information, because based of what I know so far, YT's automated copyright ID system can't just simply generate any copyright claims out of thin air because the artist or the label needs to submit all their copyright files in order to be verified by YT, and it can be easily exploited by any trolls pretending to be the original artist. Remember that invisible unicode letters actually exist and it's commonly used to make "blank" video title or "channels with no name". I'm pretty sure the troll uses that kind of invisible letter to "blank out" the artist name
I read a comment under one of the videos about this song which really fits. It went something like: "If the Internet ever ends (probably along with the whole world), this song will be the ending credits song to The Internet. ". The mood of the song really fits lol.
😂😂😂 I thought joy division as well!!!! Then put it to my google music player and solved that mystery super fast!!! Debunked! Statues in motion Alvin Dean Next mystery please!!!
The radio channel nrd where it come from was contacted, and a mystery show from germany went and talked about it, seemingly being THE ONLY song they don't remember playing
that's it, I believe this came from a parallel universe. There's too many things changing in our timeline, even the fucking place we are in in the milky way galaxy, and people wanna say "nah everyone is just having the same exact false memory, they misremembered" I would like you to remember the false memory theory was created by a bunch of abusers trying to silence their victims by saying all their trauma is just a false memory and that they shouldn't be mentally ill whatsoever.
I don’t know if it’s a symptom of the internet specifically. Lots of people enjoy not only reading mystery novels, but also enjoy working to solve open mysteries. The internet is just a tool to help facilitate that.
I like the way you talk so calmly, and I did not know about the 2 specific dates yet! I just finished my 25 year search for my personal music mystery (which turned out to be much more "trivial"/well-known than I thought and was solved by searching a little differently than I used to...), so I am "hungry" for new interesting facts about TMMS!
I called it the Cantering Notes but it is really Ayacucho by James Last/originally by Los Chaskis. 25000 clicks on UA-cam and no one could connect the dots until now... So I wish us all good luck connecting the dots right for TMMS
It’s on iTunes. It sounds great, I added it to my KTSW playlist, but iTunes gave credit to Alvin Dean and Statues in Motion, but that’s not who created it.
I wonder if a language expert has been engaged to determine the lead singers accent. I know, probably German, but maybe the region could be narrowed down.
Funny thing, I did and posted a cover on UA-cam (see my channel) and when I posted it, it said copyright material was detected, but that the owner allows free use. Seems strange.
Georgios (George) Dalambiras, aka Alvin Dean, sang this song. Doesn't everyone know this by now? After Statues in Motion broke up, he went to Germany, recorded his music, also made a demo with Yannis Beltekas. His song was played on the radio as a way of undercutting the producer that didn't feel it was ready. The rest is history. But, for some reason, people still feel the need to keep the mystery alive. It is his song and his voice.
i thought i was suffering a case of Mandela Effect as i swore i saw a video about this before... oh yeah. the channel All Things Lost covered THIS EXACT SAME STORY less than a month ago!
It looks a lot like the hypergraphia type of writing that you see in people with schizophrenia. Not saying he's schizophrenic, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was.
I've been convinced on alvin dean since it was brought up but i dont find the voices that much similar anymore, who knows maybe someone will randomly solve this one too one day.
Oddly similar personal situation. Ripped a song off Myspace as a kid in the early 2000s. Found it over a decade later on a burnt CD. No clue what it is. Not sure what the accept is or even if the entire song is in English. Never been able to identify it. Hopefully 40 years from now I won't still be searching.
This whole idea of a DX7 being premium and not used by bands is completely ridiculous. It was incredibly common in 1984. The middle school where I volunteer taught music had a dX7 sitting around. No one really liked it. It became legendary much later when 80's synth trash became kitsch. People liked moogs and such back then - like Rush
Song does not have a title. This was circulating on at least three handmade cassettes I acquired in trade in 1984 or 1985. The tapes were credited to Luther Blissett in one instance, and Monty Cantsin in the other two instances. These are open source artist names that anyone can create under. No performance rights would be claimed, so even if it were on radio there would not be documentation of the broadcast. It is unlikely the actual performer will ever be found. To my knowledge the song was only ever on DIY cassettes but it's far more professional than most Blissett or Cantsin tracks. My Luther Blissett copy of it has this song first, so possibly whoever did play it on the original broadcast had a copy of the same tape. None of my Blissett/Cantsin tapes had tracklists -- this just was not done in the Neoist era.
If this is true and you’re not trolling (judging by your username you probably are but in the off chance you aren’t) you should try to get the recordings off of the tapes you have, since it could potentially be the first known recording of the song not originating from Darius
Thanks for including me in your video at 18:58! The Yamaha DX7 was quite popular back then and basically every synth player owned one, so I think the chance that the band used it on TMMS is high. Although I used the VST version here and not the hardware itself, it does sound very close to the synth in the original record.
speaking of mysterious media although what I'm about to talk about isn't as mysterious but I looked nonstop for about a week before giving up both because I felt like I couldn't and because I was sick of losing sleep over something so pointless. It was a youtube series. I can't remember what any of the videos were titled, any of the characters, or the name of who made it. Now all I do is leave comments hopping someone knows what I'm talking about. But writting these comments takes 10 minutes so I'm not gonna say anything unless I know someone is listening
just because ronnie is angry and making threats doesnt mean he is less likely to be the co-author. why would anyone get angry and frustrated over something that's not theirs. if he was lying and trolling, he would be laughing by now. if he is the actual co-author and no one believed him, he has every right to be extremely angry. so angry that he is willing to make threats and go to jail.
I'm so glad there's a full length remaster of this. I love lost songs! My current favorite is a lost late 80's song called Without you solved on reddit. I can't stop listening! I'm compiling as many of these lost gems as I can!
Maybe whoever made the song had a friend at the radio station or just casually knew someone working there. Maybe this person simply handed over a tape and asked him to play it as a favor? Or someone at the station just played it because he thought it was interesting or just wanted to try something different?
German band called Clan of Xymox is my guess back in 84 they were just called Xymox and had an ep in 85 they have a song called Evelyn and it sounds similar
Listening to the amateur drumming on the song, it makes me think it was someone's high school band or something and was unlikely to be an established band that was out there touring or whatever. I'm guessing someone who worked on the radio station was acquainted with someone from that band, got asked to play it, and just did it once as a favor. They probably didn't want to list it in the logs since technically they shouldn't have been playing it. They may not have even announced the song after it played.
Elvin didn't even need to move to Germany if a producer found a cut track and decided to sell it to a foreign market without knowing who or what it belonged to.
Maybe the singer of this song is somewhere right now, as a ghost maybe, watching all the excitement about his song that he maybe never had big expectations of and looks like the cat that got the cream. Becoming the creator of one of the greatest mysteries in music history would be a good reparation for a premature dead for me 😂
So I'm 61 and have been on the internet since it's inception and this might actually be the craziest internet/real life story I have ever heard! It was A 5 WTFs' story for sure!
Alright, so I sended an email to the NDR and asked for information if they have archives of the dates you gave. And if they do, if there is a possibility to check for the song.
Seeing how people have attacked and dissected basically every single angle - there is one angle I haven't seen mentioned in videos af this mystery: the lyrics. Sure, the lyrics of one short song is hardly an ample sample - but maybe enough to make lingusitic conclusions what language the author's native tongue might be... (because I guress there is kind of a concensus that the band isn't British, American or of any other English spaking nation... Anyone knows anything about this line of investigation?
I am trying to find a song from an old fifa game. At first I thought it was from fifa 99 but after listening tot all the fifa songs from fifa 96 to 2005 I couldn't find it. At least i believe it's from fifa. Maybe a different football/soccer game. I remember a game menu, and in there, the song goes as follows: a man singing loudly, maybe multiple men: lyrics are: when we go we go oh oh oh. Then a high trumpet that goes like: tiiht tiiiht tiiht. I am not sure if it's "when we go or we roll, you row" or whatever. But this is all I can remember. It's definitely 2005 or older!!! Whoever finds it is a LEGEND forever.
@abandonedaccount.6834 I checked so many soccer games but sadly still not found. Even fifa street. It could be that while my friends were playing fifa on ps1 someone had the radio on and that song played or something. Thanks for the tip anyways.
@@johncarlo1862 No problem, hope you find it. Ask on subreddits dedicated for finding songs and if no one can identify it then post it to the lostwave subreddit. Good luck in finding it.
Just because the song has a patch from a DX7 doesn’t mean it couldn’t have been produced by someone earlier. Electronic music is extremely flexible and an infinite amount of sounds could have been produced. 1. Everyone says it *almost* exactly the same. Nobody can prove it. 2. Even if it could be proved, some one could have reproduced it previously 3. Where did the Yamaha tech get the patch from? He might have been copying/modifying a previously known patch. I don’t believe that this is a limiting factor. The sound is from that period. That is all we can say.
Dude, you didn't talk to me or camspiracy. Anyway: Played October 28th, 1984 by NDR2 Substitute DJ Wolfgang Hahn. The song was a new rendition of the Statues in Motion demo "Checking in/ Checking out," but re -recorded with Alvin Dean on vocals, Yannis Beltakis on the lead Guitar, and two members of Forward Music Quintet (FMQ) with the Drums played by "Von Claus" -(Alvin's Friend) and Natasha Syregella (Streuberg) who recreated Billy Knight's synth work using a DX 7; just as she did on a cover of a Parthenogenesis song from her first FMQ album. Some how, someway Alvin (or Yannis Beltakis) got it to Wolfgang Hahn for him to sneakily play it during Octoberfest.
@@anxyietoo Yeah, I’m more than skeptical of their claim without any evidence whatsoever, especially since we already know several people who created narratives around this song.
"You should stop all this bruhaha about it. It's a classic song from INTEMPESTIVE TROLLS. The only reason you can't find the recordings is the contention on the copyrights. Ed Gerszon ( born and raised in East Germany) did the vocals and guitar. She claims he wrote the song solely. D.B. Lloyd ( bass, keyboards) has always sustained. She wrote the lyrics. Gary Bell (drums) owns the master tape, But on that ill faded trip to Sweden in winter time, back in 1984, allegedly driving to Paul studios where he would do the remaster. That's the reason The vocals are mixed, so detached from the bulk of the song. Gerszon publish the song at Editions Jannick, Dresden,, but Debbie Lloyd did the same elsewhere in the UK. as long as all band members are dead there's no future developments to this song and all this left of " The Doggy Laughed" and "Pasewalk Strut" our recordings on friends hands." - User GraachAhim
Ronnie's strange initial email is probably some premade message he sends everyone, because unfortunately with many of these unidentified song searches, people get contacted all the time even when those leads have been debunked. This is also why recently a lot of people are investigating in private groups in order not to scare people off from suddenly getting flooded with messages
It seems to me that we basically have the answer to this big question, but nobody has actually gone to the trouble of getting a solid confirmation from one of the few people who can provide it. The song has Alvin Dean on vocals. That much is obvious to me. A song recorded after Statues In Motion split. Could’ve sworn I saw something about one of the other musicians Dean worked with during that time frame making reference to a dispute with the record label he was signed to at the time, which ended with them not allowing some of his later recorded material to be officially marketed. And that this was one of those songs, and it just somehow made its way into the hands of a radio DJ one day and got played once. Though there has been speculation that Alvin Dean may have passed away, nobody has actually found any documentation of such. If anything, there have been a few hints that he’s still alive, and likely living in Australia. He has a unique real name. Find him. Buy the guy dinner in exchange for talking about his music career to clear everything up. It’s probably that easy. If you can’t find him, several other musicians he recorded with during that period are out there. A similar dinner/conversation with them could lead to some sort of confirmation. Confirmation which… we basically already got, when the last thing Billy Knight said on the subject of the song was that “Alvin made it.” That’s a pretty confident, declarative statement. Though he initially tried to say SIM recorded it as a demo, he eventually conceded that it was actually just Alvin’s project. Someone doing a real, on the record, journalistic interview with Billy may even be enough. Pissing him off on Facebook is all that anyone has really accomplished with him yet. Alvin Dean is the answer. Someone just needs to be the hero in this story and interview him and/or his friends. Who’s gonna follow through?
@@nullinlack585 Let’s think back to the case of Edde Edman for a minute. Lostwave community didn’t believe he was the artist behind Fond My Mind/Feels Like A Wish. People called him a liar. He felt disrespected and got confrontational about it (justifiably so, as he was just trying to provide the answer). He had no “proof” because he recorded the song so long ago. Everyone wrote him off as being “debunked.” Turns out he was telling the truth. He wrote the song. If someone else didn’t eventually find the tape (to provide doubters physical “proof”) he would have been labeled a liar forever. It was such a disappointing story, which the entire lostwave community should LEARN FROM. I feel Billy Knight is the same situation. He has already clarified that he helped write the song we know as Like The Wind, and that Alvin Dean was the artist who made the recording that we have of the song now. If Alvin Dean is in fact dead, and Eli Kane (the guy who wrote the lyrics) is also deceased, that means Billy is one of the only people alive with the answer. Just like with Edde Edman, as soon as people started calling him a liar, he felt disrespected and got confrontational. I don’t blame him. Maybe he’s a liar. Who knows? But to write off the lead completely would be a gigantic mistake. He has nothing to gain financially by telling us the background of the song. We’re honestly a bunch of jerks for treating him like this. Abandoning leads is a huge mistake. Christopher Booth was sitting on Reddit as a lead for months with nobody following up on it until recently. Same with K-Girls. Don’t abandon leads. Investigate them fully. And in the case of Billy Knight, a real RESPECTFUL journalistic follow up with him about it could be the answer. He has absolutely not been “debunked.”
22:22 The NDR has the one of the biggest music libraries in Europe. Then there is also the DRA for the entire ARD. Sometimes programmes are shared between the member stations. The Popnacht for example shares the SWR programme with HR3, NDR2, MDR Jump, RBB, SR1 and WDR1. So sometimes it might not be the NDR directly, but the BR sends via the Stern to other stations. I wrote it under another video already that suggestion.
NDR's 10khz line is believed to be caused by a standard piece of equipment. This doesn't confirm NDR as the broadcaster but it makes them very likely. The "drift" in the line is more likely to be caused by the tape running at different speeds in the machine than the tower. Unfortunately the Yugoslavian lead was disproven as quickly as it came up. You're also wrong about all of the songs being found on the playlists Madam Butterfly ( ver Maxi) was never found on the radio playlists. This is of course pedantic.
There's a song called "Casanova, please don't say it's over" I had saved it, in a playlist, I had found it on the internet...anyway, for some reason I deleted the playlist, then a year later, I'm trying to find it and there's no sign of it...anywhere, I think the artist's name is Dylan, beautiful song
One angle no one has talked about is this band had to record this in a studio. Is there a way to check records at various studios? Maybe the records will show who it is.
English is not my native language, but the accent in this song sounds very familiar. I can understand the lyrics of the song easily. If it helps, i can give some info
There are thousands lost songs out there. There will just always be art that can't be tracked back to its original creator. There is a Undercover Runway Fashion Show video on UA-cam and the last song that plays in that video is so beautiful, and everyone in the comments is wondering who this song made. It's probably just a song made by an artist who could be compared to an artists who nowadays would have 10 listeners on Spotify. And that's sad. But also, that's just life, I guess.
I have two songs I know nothing about singers/producers. one is the three bells (trois cloches) sung by what seems to be a vocoder like voice and kraftwerk like tune, the other is sung by a female voice, in a punk rock style, the refrain goes like " let's go to china "...
I wonder how many people actually found the song already but decided to keep it to themselves just to keep the steady flow of redigested, over-romanticized drama/mystery going. It's certainly what I would do at this point. This is way more entertaining than 2 minutes in some random internet "hall of fame".
Funny thing, I did and posted a cover on UA-cam (see my channel) and when I posted it, it said copyright material was detected, but that the owner allows free use. Seems strange.
13:16 Either this guy is completely fed up with getting contacted about the song (it does look like it's a pre-made email) or it's an impersonator. Either way, you're getting trolled.
the thing about the lead singers is that the vocal style is extremely common for 80s new wave bands, so just going by "this guy has a similar voice" isn't really much of a lead
Yes exactly
My thoughts too
Absolutely.
oh if you can name at least 5 bands from 1983 to 1985, with the same style and with the identical singer
@@MrLapapa5 All bands sound the same in any particular time period. That's why you can say you like let's say 60's rock or rap from the 90's because every artist sounded similar at that particular time. And on the other hand, if you tell someone to listen to anything and tell them how this sounds so similar to something else, human brain automatically starts to find similarities. It's a common phenomenon so it's not really a solid proof.
Worst part is the song is an absolute banger too, so that makes the mystery even more frustrating
This is a mediocre track at best. Meh.
this song is objectively better than 'everyone knows that' and it should be found and have the attention it has
They're both so dull. Zoomers herding around a topic because others herded around it, again.
nO yOuR tAsTe iN mUsIc SuCkS
@@soulsawyour mom's mediocre
The only explanation for no one coming out to claim it is that it was possibly a one-man band (which is really common) and the guy has passed many years ago, and if he had a band mate, he just does not use internet, as many people still don't do, especially older people, and thus cannot be reached to claim and explain the song.
Good call, I was thinking the same kind of situation. Who knows how many songs are forever lost to time?
@@chrisbole8339 at least we have the complete song to listen to and admire, and it being a sad post-punk song with unknown origins just adds a true aura of post-punk melancholy to it, unlike the other lost song known as Everyone Knows That, that only a few seconds exist and everything regarding it is a complete dead end.
Yes maybe
I don't agree. This song is way too complex and thought through. It's technically on professional level of complexity. It's impossible it was some amateur. It must have been some collab between bands that is yet to be discovered among those trashy german EPs that are sold by volume.
@@kubastachu9860 ?!? So a one-man band can't be complex, well thought and technical? Dude, there are so many one-man bands in metal with better songs, have more professional and well-produced songs and sound than famous big bands. Some of the best bands I've listened to back in the day were one-man bands, and some of the most beloved too. What are you talking about? lmao
"I can't play too much of the song due to DMCA."
- FROM WHO?
@Siyual
@Siyual "FROM WHO?" From Ronnie Rocket for his song that he used for voice comparison.
@@Psalm1267So some rando waltzed in, said "yeah that sounds like a song I'd write, pay me" and they rolled with it?
@@olliegoria You can do that on UA-cam. You might not win the case, but you can cause the uploader a lot of grief until they settle. I suppose you can do that in other environments, too.
They've ruled out Ronnie on the TMS subreddit, for some very good reasons that I don't know.
@@olliegoria That's what happened on Spotify. So now every time you Shazam it, it gets credited to the moron on Spotify. 😑 I hate being here bruh
What's DMCA?
I was a musician in Vienna in the 1980's, here are a few thoughts:
- The song itself: it uses a very common chord progression that was repeated on many songs of that time, over and over again. It is what an amateur band of the time in Austria or Germany etc. would likely have used. There is a second part in the song, not really a bridge though, so this sounds like the "flagship" song of some unknown band that never made it. However, the scraped enough money together to pay for a recording studio. That was quite common at the time, and since studios were expensive, it is possible that they recorded two songs only for the front and back of a single. Or, another thing that wasn't uncommon, this could have been their only song, which was released on a sampler LP. If it is the latter, it is probably next to impossible to find it, at least without skimming through endless records and reading the fine print.
- Production quality: it sounds like it was recorded in a proper studio, as opposed to a basement or garage. As for the synth, that might have been there in the studio, for rent. The drums are definitely not top notch, just listen to the hi-hat. The mixing is also not great, which points to the band doing everything themselves (you could hire a sound technician as well... then it would probably sound better).
- Musicians: these are most likely not professionals, at least not anywhere close to high-end. Think about the elaborate guitar solos common in the 1980's, and their guitarist just strums the same notes. It's probably the best he could do. Same with the synth, a hallmark of the 1980's, there is so much more that a professional band could and would have done with this synth.
- Recording technique: one thing that is mentioned in the video is that back then, each track was recorded individually. So I think it is possible that a drummer would not recognize or remember a song after he recorded his part (happened to me too). That is not proof, of course, but something to keep in mind. Sometimes bands would break up before the record was finished.
- NDR1 "Musik für junge Leute": some episodes are up on youtube; their focus seems to have been to play underground music and/or unknown artists. The production quality of most songs was mich higher than for the "mysterious song", as well as the musical complexity.
Since the song was played on radio only once (?), it is possible that someone asked a favor from his or her cousins or friends, or through some other connections (we did that too). Then the band split up, people got real jobs, and they stopped thinking about this song. So it could just be that they haven't watched this video... :)
This is pretty much what I’ve been thinking too. Most likely some friends somewhere in Europe back in the early to mid 80s got together and made a band for a while, recorded a track or two, split up after not very long, moved on with their lives, and forgot about most of it. Any tracks they made/songs they wrote faded into obscurity, and it was just by some fluke that the internet happened to find one of their songs and make it blow up online, decades later. I’m ok with never knowing who made this song, we now have the full track and that’s good enough for me, because it’s a great song!
it was a test pressing, that never released after. Maybe farewell. Test pressing ltd.5
Post punk new wave greek
It's actually drum machine in TMMS!
@@andrewcocos ??? Band ?
EKT has fallen, now it's time to go back to the original, most mysterious song
EKI* (EVERYONE KNOWS IT)
Well... Hopefully this one won't be literally a banger
@@gamingchickenstudios oh let's hope (I understood your comment)
@@armyshopebefore we knew the lyrics we just called it everybody knows that
Amen to that. Although I think this song has been identified long ago. The singer is George Dalambiras
how does one get DMCAd by the most mysterious unknown song on the internet?
thats what i thought
I think it's just CF being overly cautious? I saw a similar vid abt TMS a couple weeks ago that played the song in full nesr the beginning and afaik that's still up
I think he was referring to the song he was comparing it to. I've seen multiple videos playing the whole song, and they've never been claimed. Even sparking jokes about how you know it's mysterious when even UA-cam doesn't give you a strike on behalf of Sony or Warner Chappell.
I thought that too. Wouldn't getting DMCA'd add to the investigation?
what are you talking about
song writer / composer got DMCA'd by their own song because youtube system is fucked up
I rented a DX7 for a weekend in 1984 to record some songs with some friends. And we weren't any known band. In that time period it was pretty easy to get access to a DX7 without having to have been a well known band.
I think the price of the DX-7 is over emphasized. Every musician knows someone who spends all of their money on better gear.
More importantly, the keyboard parts are not especially complicated nor are they essential to the song. It's very possible the DX-7 was something owned by the studio where they cut the song.
And where were you living in 1984?
@@kolejnytrup Uhh, probably in a house 💀 cornball ass "gotcha!"
You seem to have missed the point. It’s not that you couldn’t put your hands on it if you weren’t famous, but, rather, WHEN.
I also raised this point back when Whang did a video about this song. While the DX7 was released in 1983, at first it was only available in Japan. There was an insane amount of demand for it from all over the world, and even if you were famous, you were part of a line. It took until 1984 for the DX7 to finally be readily available elsewhere - and THEN you may have had the chance to put your hands on one. Therefore, it’s unrealistic to consider that this song is from 1983, when even some iconic names from the industry weren’t easily getting their units. THAT was the point.
Radio stations have been archiving their music since they began. They know its most likely at NDR. Surely someone currently working there would be curious enough to start digging around those dates. It's there somewhere.
10,000 plus records and it even then MIGHT not have been on vinyl format
I wouldn’t be surprised if they taped over it, it seems like a relatively small and unknown song so there would be no reason to keep the master tape for a small artist
No, but maybe scipts of the broadcast, paperwork with notes or other stuff.
Archives get trashed all the time. The BBC tapes over master episodes of Doctor Who
@@GladeSwope looks like it was both "Between approximately 1967 and 1978, large quantities of videotape and film stored in the BBC's Engineering department and film libraries were wiped or destroyed to make way for newer programmes.[1] This happened for several reasons, primarily the belief that there was no practical value to its retention."
Seeing Whang in other people’s videos is such a cool full circle moment for me.
Tbf I was a heavy drug user when I was musician and I forgot a lot of things I did when I was a drug addict that decades later remembered when people told me about it
A lot of 70s kids were born that way (mostly alcohol one night stands)
@@dertythegrower definitely lol
@@dertythegrowerAh yes the degen generation . Lovely..
Makes sense. I mean, just look at David Bowie. Because all the stuff he was doing
he didn't even remember having recorded Station to Station. Just, memory-holed out
Awesome video and very up to date. Considering how old this song is, we might be running out of time, but I hope we get to know the answer. Thanks for the shout-out!
Everytime I listen to this song, I get such an eerie feeling. It actually creeps me out a bit. Don't understand why though.
Same for me lol
Me too, this song is kinda creepy to me.
It has that Molchat Doma vibe about it even though they aren’t even close to the same style or time.
it's like the band has been trapped in a room since 1984 playing the same song over and over until we find out who they are
On a side-note, Statues in Motion is a totally badass name for a band
i got this upload confused with LEMMINO , but still tho thats like the best compliment ever
how
@@RYRY1002 Lemmino is the goat of youtube documentaries
@@NielsRenkema Lemmino is freakin fantastic! I have seen most of his vids multiple times.
Lemmino is one of the best "documentary" youtubers here tbh. Wish he'd post more though
I clicked for the same reason
. Was expecting that signature voice but then it went south
If you got a DMCA strike - wouldn't that tell you who *filled* the claim, and therefore who owns the rights to the song? I mean you can't get a DMCA strike from no one.
@ChadWSmith
I uploaded it to my channel and got a copyright claim, but it doesn't give you information on who owns the copyright. You could go ahead and try it yourself and see what happens.
A claim is not the same as a strike. In a claim, the owner allows you to use the song. I kept the video private but the AI found out there was a claim on it.
In an ideal world, sure, Encyclopedia Brown. However, copyright trolls are a thing, especially since UA-cam doesn't have the most robust DMCA system.
@@Psalm1267 Maybe it's an anonymous copyright troll making false claims without providing any information, because based of what I know so far, YT's automated copyright ID system can't just simply generate any copyright claims out of thin air because the artist or the label needs to submit all their copyright files in order to be verified by YT, and it can be easily exploited by any trolls pretending to be the original artist.
Remember that invisible unicode letters actually exist and it's commonly used to make "blank" video title or "channels with no name". I'm pretty sure the troll uses that kind of invisible letter to "blank out" the artist name
I read a comment under one of the videos about this song which really fits. It went something like:
"If the Internet ever ends (probably along with the whole world), this song will be the ending credits song to The Internet. ". The mood of the song really fits lol.
That was Joy Division singing in German.
Hahaha no it wasn’t.
😂😂😂 I thought joy division as well!!!! Then put it to my google music player and solved that mystery super fast!!! Debunked! Statues in motion Alvin Dean Next mystery please!!!
The radio channel nrd where it come from was contacted, and a mystery show from germany went and talked about it, seemingly being THE ONLY song they don't remember playing
that's it, I believe this came from a parallel universe. There's too many things changing in our timeline, even the fucking place we are in in the milky way galaxy, and people wanna say "nah everyone is just having the same exact false memory, they misremembered" I would like you to remember the false memory theory was created by a bunch of abusers trying to silence their victims by saying all their trauma is just a false memory and that they shouldn't be mentally ill whatsoever.
My brother doesn't want this mystery to even be solved.
Its a symptom of the Internet that we think all answers should be available.
I don’t know if it’s a symptom of the internet specifically. Lots of people enjoy not only reading mystery novels, but also enjoy working to solve open mysteries. The internet is just a tool to help facilitate that.
Humans have always been curious and seeking the truth behind mysterious things. It‘s not a symptom of the internet. It‘s just human nature
I like the way you talk so calmly, and I did not know about the 2 specific dates yet! I just finished my 25 year search for my personal music mystery (which turned out to be much more "trivial"/well-known than I thought and was solved by searching a little differently than I used to...), so I am "hungry" for new interesting facts about TMMS!
what was it 🙏
I called it the Cantering Notes but it is really Ayacucho by James Last/originally by Los Chaskis. 25000 clicks on UA-cam and no one could connect the dots until now... So I wish us all good luck connecting the dots right for TMMS
Chill Fuel is back baybay!
It’s on iTunes. It sounds great, I added it to my KTSW playlist, but iTunes gave credit to Alvin Dean and Statues in Motion, but that’s not who created it.
What if Alvin Dean sang it alone or he just has a similar singing style?
99% of mystery songs on the Internet are just Sandstorm by Darude.
Came here from Professor of Rock's Video also covering this song you can hear more of it there and it's from June17th , 2024
I wonder if a language expert has been engaged to determine the lead singers accent. I know, probably German, but maybe the region could be narrowed down.
How can you be DMCA'd if nobody can prove the actual artist or owner?
@MR0KITTY I think he's more worried about Ronnie's song.
Funny thing, I did and posted a cover on UA-cam (see my channel) and when I posted it, it said copyright material was detected, but that the owner allows free use. Seems strange.
@@TheDeadEndFriendsSound There's talk of whoever is copyright claiming it is doing it is a fraud.
Georgios (George) Dalambiras, aka Alvin Dean, sang this song. Doesn't everyone know this by now? After Statues in Motion broke up, he went to Germany, recorded his music, also made a demo with Yannis Beltekas. His song was played on the radio as a way of undercutting the producer that didn't feel it was ready. The rest is history. But, for some reason, people still feel the need to keep the mystery alive. It is his song and his voice.
Source?
@@sya_7489 Sorces(s): Trust me bro....
That’s a theory. It’s never been confirmed.
For a lostwave to be considered solved there must be concrete evidence of who the author is. Speculation alone won't work...
Welp, thanks for the reminder that 1984 was 40 years ago... 👵
i thought i was suffering a case of Mandela Effect as i swore i saw a video about this before...
oh yeah. the channel All Things Lost covered THIS EXACT SAME STORY less than a month ago!
GOOD FAKE SONG
Lots of folks have covered it :)
Right I was like how have I heard all this story and even the song before? 😂
Still good enough to hear again
Seriously, one channel blows up with another repeat retold Reddit thread then all the clout chasers copy it.
@@ivan4087fake? sure bud.
There are no links in the description
Ronnies email, if it really his email, is trying really hard to be a scam email lol
His attitude is perfactly in line with being an austrian artist from Vienna, tho.
It looks a lot like the hypergraphia type of writing that you see in people with schizophrenia. Not saying he's schizophrenic, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was.
I've been convinced on alvin dean since it was brought up but i dont find the voices that much similar anymore, who knows maybe someone will randomly solve this one too one day.
Oddly similar personal situation. Ripped a song off Myspace as a kid in the early 2000s. Found it over a decade later on a burnt CD. No clue what it is. Not sure what the accept is or even if the entire song is in English. Never been able to identify it. Hopefully 40 years from now I won't still be searching.
upload the song
Upload it so maybe someone might recognize it.
A buddy of mine in a club band had a Yamaha DX7 in 1984
This whole idea of a DX7 being premium and not used by bands is completely ridiculous. It was incredibly common in 1984. The middle school where I volunteer taught music had a dX7 sitting around. No one really liked it. It became legendary much later when 80's synth trash became kitsch. People liked moogs and such back then - like Rush
There was a a very good version of the song played in its entirety here on UA-cam. Look for the version with a cassette playing as the video.
makes me think about all the other songs lost and forgotten through time
I actually remember hearing this song on the radio, but I had no idea when this must've been a song that sounded similar
Song does not have a title. This was circulating on at least three handmade cassettes I acquired in trade in 1984 or 1985. The tapes were credited to Luther Blissett in one instance, and Monty Cantsin in the other two instances. These are open source artist names that anyone can create under. No performance rights would be claimed, so even if it were on radio there would not be documentation of the broadcast. It is unlikely the actual performer will ever be found. To my knowledge the song was only ever on DIY cassettes but it's far more professional than most Blissett or Cantsin tracks. My Luther Blissett copy of it has this song first, so possibly whoever did play it on the original broadcast had a copy of the same tape. None of my Blissett/Cantsin tapes had tracklists -- this just was not done in the Neoist era.
If this is true and you’re not trolling (judging by your username you probably are but in the off chance you aren’t) you should try to get the recordings off of the tapes you have, since it could potentially be the first known recording of the song not originating from Darius
Thanks for including me in your video at 18:58! The Yamaha DX7 was quite popular back then and basically every synth player owned one, so I think the chance that the band used it on TMMS is high. Although I used the VST version here and not the hardware itself, it does sound very close to the synth in the original record.
speaking of mysterious media although what I'm about to talk about isn't as mysterious but I looked nonstop for about a week before giving up both because I felt like I couldn't and because I was sick of losing sleep over something so pointless. It was a youtube series. I can't remember what any of the videos were titled, any of the characters, or the name of who made it.
Now all I do is leave comments hopping someone knows what I'm talking about. But writting these comments takes 10 minutes so I'm not gonna say anything unless I know someone is listening
just because ronnie is angry and making threats doesnt mean he is less likely to be the co-author. why would anyone get angry and frustrated over something that's not theirs. if he was lying and trolling, he would be laughing by now. if he is the actual co-author and no one believed him, he has every right to be extremely angry. so angry that he is willing to make threats and go to jail.
I'm so glad there's a full length remaster of this. I love lost songs! My current favorite is a lost late 80's song called Without you solved on reddit. I can't stop listening! I'm compiling as many of these lost gems as I can!
Maybe whoever made the song had a friend at the radio station or just casually knew someone working there. Maybe this person simply handed over a tape and asked him to play it as a favor? Or someone at the station just played it because he thought it was interesting or just wanted to try something different?
German band called Clan of Xymox is my guess back in 84 they were just called Xymox and had an ep in 85 they have a song called Evelyn and it sounds similar
this song is literally my goth post punk dream it sucks that no one knows it, would add to my playlist in a heartbeat
You can though, it’s on Apple Music, it’s just called The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet by The Most Mysterious Band.
@@MusicLover-kz6rc yeah i just found out you can add it on spotify a month ago
The person WHO sang IT was possibly in HIS 30's or 40's and now would be in his 70's or 80's
Listening to the amateur drumming on the song, it makes me think it was someone's high school band or something and was unlikely to be an established band that was out there touring or whatever. I'm guessing someone who worked on the radio station was acquainted with someone from that band, got asked to play it, and just did it once as a favor. They probably didn't want to list it in the logs since technically they shouldn't have been playing it. They may not have even announced the song after it played.
Elvin didn't even need to move to Germany if a producer found a cut track and decided to sell it to a foreign market without knowing who or what it belonged to.
Incredible how Brazil is always in the crime scene
I've been interested in this story but not actively following it, so I appreciate this video a lot 🥰
Maybe the singer of this song is somewhere right now, as a ghost maybe, watching all the excitement about his song that he maybe never had big expectations of and looks like the cat that got the cream.
Becoming the creator of one of the greatest mysteries in music history would be a good reparation for a premature dead for me 😂
It definitely sounds demo-y and has a new wave style. but the problem is most bands of the early-mid 80s pop charts were new wave bands.
8:55 I was fully convinced he was gonna say Ronnie Radke 😂
Edit: He seems to be even more insane than Radke
21:56 lol that is when my dad turned 1 year older
So I'm 61 and have been on the internet since it's inception and this might actually be the craziest internet/real life story I have ever heard! It was A 5 WTFs' story for sure!
i made many demo records for years and i am sure that this song was a demo of some young musicians but did not make any sense at that time.
I pray for the mysterious song on the internet to get found this year in 2024
"Blind the Wind" doesn't make sense. "Like the wind" seems more logical to me.
Or "Ride The Wind"?
Glad to have you back bro
Alright, so I sended an email to the NDR and asked for information if they have archives of the dates you gave. And if they do, if there is a possibility to check for the song.
The "Everyone Knows That" song mystery is another great search for lost media.
It has to be fake lmao
That song is crap
Yea it's solved now
@@TheTicassShow ts did NOT age well 😭🙏
@@TheTicassShow Eating your words much? 😅
i thought this was going to be EKT at first, now i know of 2 possibly never to be found songs. hm
There's a lot more lost songs out there then those 2 😅 alot
@@loneknight3357 i know, i was meaning the 2 there were in this video
@@bassblaster505 oh yes ofc, its rabbit for sure
Seeing how people have attacked and dissected basically every single angle - there is one angle I haven't seen mentioned in videos af this mystery: the lyrics. Sure, the lyrics of one short song is hardly an ample sample - but maybe enough to make lingusitic conclusions what language the author's native tongue might be... (because I guress there is kind of a concensus that the band isn't British, American or of any other English spaking nation... Anyone knows anything about this line of investigation?
The internet is just so damn interesting
I am trying to find a song from an old fifa game. At first I thought it was from fifa 99 but after listening tot all the fifa songs from fifa 96 to 2005 I couldn't find it. At least i believe it's from fifa. Maybe a different football/soccer game. I remember a game menu, and in there, the song goes as follows: a man singing loudly, maybe multiple men: lyrics are: when we go we go oh oh oh. Then a high trumpet that goes like: tiiht tiiiht tiiht. I am not sure if it's "when we go or we roll, you row" or whatever. But this is all I can remember. It's definitely 2005 or older!!! Whoever finds it is a LEGEND forever.
try checking other football games. tried checking pes' old osts?
@abandonedaccount.6834 I checked so many soccer games but sadly still not found. Even fifa street. It could be that while my friends were playing fifa on ps1 someone had the radio on and that song played or something. Thanks for the tip anyways.
Is it K'NAAN - Wavin' Flag ?
@@NameGoesHere988 no but thanks anyway.
@@johncarlo1862 No problem, hope you find it. Ask on subreddits dedicated for finding songs and if no one can identify it then post it to the lostwave subreddit. Good luck in finding it.
I feel like the song was from some popular band until they fell into obscurity
The person who made the music is Martin Kott
Just because the song has a patch from a DX7 doesn’t mean it couldn’t have been produced by someone earlier. Electronic music is extremely flexible and an infinite amount of sounds could have been produced.
1. Everyone says it *almost* exactly the same. Nobody can prove it.
2. Even if it could be proved, some one could have reproduced it previously
3. Where did the Yamaha tech get the patch from? He might have been copying/modifying a previously known patch.
I don’t believe that this is a limiting factor. The sound is from that period. That is all we can say.
Dude, you didn't talk to me or camspiracy. Anyway: Played October 28th, 1984 by NDR2 Substitute DJ Wolfgang Hahn. The song was a new rendition of the Statues in Motion demo "Checking in/ Checking out," but re -recorded with Alvin Dean on vocals, Yannis Beltakis on the lead Guitar, and two members of Forward Music Quintet (FMQ) with the Drums played by "Von Claus" -(Alvin's Friend) and Natasha Syregella (Streuberg) who recreated Billy Knight's synth work using a DX 7; just as she did on a cover of a Parthenogenesis song from her first FMQ album. Some how, someway Alvin (or Yannis Beltakis) got it to Wolfgang Hahn for him to sneakily play it during Octoberfest.
Is this from reddit
Interesting, where did you get it from ? Tried searching Streuberg on the subreddit only to find one post that really didn't point to anywhere
@@anxyietoo Yeah, I’m more than skeptical of their claim without any evidence whatsoever, especially since we already know several people who created narratives around this song.
Simon Whistler snippet detecteeeeed
*as the internet dies this song plays it’s unknown when but soon*
"You should stop all this bruhaha about it. It's a classic song from INTEMPESTIVE TROLLS. The only reason you can't find the recordings is the contention on the copyrights. Ed Gerszon ( born and raised in East Germany) did the vocals and guitar. She claims he wrote the song solely. D.B. Lloyd ( bass, keyboards) has always sustained. She wrote the lyrics. Gary Bell (drums) owns the master tape, But on that ill faded trip to Sweden in winter time, back in 1984, allegedly driving to Paul studios where he would do the remaster. That's the reason The vocals are mixed, so detached from the bulk of the song. Gerszon publish the song at Editions Jannick, Dresden,, but Debbie Lloyd did the same elsewhere in the UK. as long as all band members are dead there's no future developments to this song and all this left of " The Doggy Laughed" and "Pasewalk Strut" our recordings on friends hands." - User GraachAhim
Chill Fuel: Return of the King 👑🔥
Thank God he remembered his favourite hobby 🤲🏼
Ronnie's strange initial email is probably some premade message he sends everyone, because unfortunately with many of these unidentified song searches, people get contacted all the time even when those leads have been debunked. This is also why recently a lot of people are investigating in private groups in order not to scare people off from suddenly getting flooded with messages
It seems to me that we basically have the answer to this big question, but nobody has actually gone to the trouble of getting a solid confirmation from one of the few people who can provide it.
The song has Alvin Dean on vocals. That much is obvious to me. A song recorded after Statues In Motion split. Could’ve sworn I saw something about one of the other musicians Dean worked with during that time frame making reference to a dispute with the record label he was signed to at the time, which ended with them not allowing some of his later recorded material to be officially marketed. And that this was one of those songs, and it just somehow made its way into the hands of a radio DJ one day and got played once.
Though there has been speculation that Alvin Dean may have passed away, nobody has actually found any documentation of such. If anything, there have been a few hints that he’s still alive, and likely living in Australia.
He has a unique real name. Find him. Buy the guy dinner in exchange for talking about his music career to clear everything up. It’s probably that easy.
If you can’t find him, several other musicians he recorded with during that period are out there. A similar dinner/conversation with them could lead to some sort of confirmation.
Confirmation which… we basically already got, when the last thing Billy Knight said on the subject of the song was that “Alvin made it.” That’s a pretty confident, declarative statement. Though he initially tried to say SIM recorded it as a demo, he eventually conceded that it was actually just Alvin’s project. Someone doing a real, on the record, journalistic interview with Billy may even be enough. Pissing him off on Facebook is all that anyone has really accomplished with him yet.
Alvin Dean is the answer. Someone just needs to be the hero in this story and interview him and/or his friends. Who’s gonna follow through?
You? :) It’s not like Reddit/Discord members haven’t tried to find him.
@@GustavoSantos88I don’t live in Australia. Others involved in the search are.
Debunked
@@nullinlack585 Let’s think back to the case of Edde Edman for a minute. Lostwave community didn’t believe he was the artist behind Fond My Mind/Feels Like A Wish. People called him a liar. He felt disrespected and got confrontational about it (justifiably so, as he was just trying to provide the answer). He had no “proof” because he recorded the song so long ago. Everyone wrote him off as being “debunked.” Turns out he was telling the truth. He wrote the song. If someone else didn’t eventually find the tape (to provide doubters physical “proof”) he would have been labeled a liar forever. It was such a disappointing story, which the entire lostwave community should LEARN FROM.
I feel Billy Knight is the same situation. He has already clarified that he helped write the song we know as Like The Wind, and that Alvin Dean was the artist who made the recording that we have of the song now. If Alvin Dean is in fact dead, and Eli Kane (the guy who wrote the lyrics) is also deceased, that means Billy is one of the only people alive with the answer.
Just like with Edde Edman, as soon as people started calling him a liar, he felt disrespected and got confrontational. I don’t blame him.
Maybe he’s a liar. Who knows? But to write off the lead completely would be a gigantic mistake. He has nothing to gain financially by telling us the background of the song. We’re honestly a bunch of jerks for treating him like this.
Abandoning leads is a huge mistake. Christopher Booth was sitting on Reddit as a lead for months with nobody following up on it until recently. Same with K-Girls. Don’t abandon leads. Investigate them fully.
And in the case of Billy Knight, a real RESPECTFUL journalistic follow up with him about it could be the answer.
He has absolutely not been “debunked.”
Statues in motion. Possibly without the lead singer.
Probably the lead singer without Statues In Motion.
22:22 The NDR has the one of the biggest music libraries in Europe. Then there is also the DRA for the entire ARD. Sometimes programmes are shared between the member stations. The Popnacht for example shares the SWR programme with HR3, NDR2, MDR Jump, RBB, SR1 and WDR1. So sometimes it might not be the NDR directly, but the BR sends via the Stern to other stations. I wrote it under another video already that suggestion.
I am sorry that this dude replied so threatening. I can speak German, maybe I can help with the radio station.
I think if we specify with all the details we have, I think NDR can find a match
NDR's 10khz line is believed to be caused by a standard piece of equipment. This doesn't confirm NDR as the broadcaster but it makes them very likely. The "drift" in the line is more likely to be caused by the tape running at different speeds in the machine than the tower.
Unfortunately the Yugoslavian lead was disproven as quickly as it came up.
You're also wrong about all of the songs being found on the playlists Madam Butterfly ( ver Maxi) was never found on the radio playlists. This is of course pedantic.
I missed the videos from this channel.
Hope you upload more often, it is really good content.
I've seen all the videos.
I like how the guy posted in the *Joy Division* subreddit. 😀
If anyone knows where my old bands Tascam 4 track demo tape from 1986 is let me know.
Do you have a link to what radio stations broadcasted the song for the search? I can only find the paul baskerville broadcast on UA-cam
There's a song called "Casanova, please don't say it's over" I had saved it, in a playlist, I had found it on the internet...anyway, for some reason I deleted the playlist, then a year later, I'm trying to find it and there's no sign of it...anywhere, I think the artist's name is Dylan, beautiful song
Interesting. What genre was it and from what year you think it was from?
And do you remember any lyrics from it?
One little songs that has made quite a journey
One angle no one has talked about is this band had to record this in a studio. Is there a way to check records at various studios? Maybe the records will show who it is.
English is not my native language, but the accent in this song sounds very familiar. I can understand the lyrics of the song easily. If it helps, i can give some info
Wow you went deep dude, this was interesting. Keep it up
There are thousands lost songs out there. There will just always be art that can't be tracked back to its original creator. There is a Undercover Runway Fashion Show video on UA-cam and the last song that plays in that video is so beautiful, and everyone in the comments is wondering who this song made. It's probably just a song made by an artist who could be compared to an artists who nowadays would have 10 listeners on Spotify. And that's sad. But also, that's just life, I guess.
Can you give me the source?
Can you give me the source?
7:54 god i hope this was actually just this guys own demo reel and this was just a like idea he had to market it lol
I have two songs I know nothing about singers/producers. one is the three bells (trois cloches) sung by what seems to be a vocoder like voice and kraftwerk like tune, the other is sung by a female voice, in a punk rock style, the refrain goes like " let's go to china "...
wait you said the song would get you DMCA'd on yt if you played more of it, but who would it be claimed by, if no-one knows who made it?
Trolls claim it
Heres another mystery for you guys the full track has never been found Quench the fire by Nicky seizure good 🤞 guys
FOUND! blind the wind - alvin dean and the statues in motion
Is that true 😯
no
Bro is dyslexic in sound
I wonder how many people actually found the song already but decided to keep it to themselves just to keep the steady flow of redigested, over-romanticized drama/mystery going.
It's certainly what I would do at this point. This is way more entertaining than 2 minutes in some random internet "hall of fame".
Funny thing, I did and posted a cover on UA-cam (see my channel) and when I posted it, it said copyright material was detected, but that the owner allows free use. Seems strange.
Can some explain how the song is in English if it was on a German radio station?
13:16 Either this guy is completely fed up with getting contacted about the song (it does look like it's a pre-made email) or it's an impersonator. Either way, you're getting trolled.
A lost timeline..
If non of the people who claimed they made the song were lying the song is probably lost media or was only broadcasted once from an unfamous band