The Most Mysterious Sample In Hip Hop
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Released in 2013, Yung Lean's Ginseng Strip 2002 has become one of the most notable songs in hip hop. From blowing up on UA-cam in 2013, to becoming the biggest song on tik tok in 2022, this song has gained attention from millions of people. But, there is something interesting about this song. The sample.
Where did the Gineseng Strip 2002 sample come from? Who sang the loop? What is the translation? Who solved the mystery? How long did people search for? All these questions will be answered in this video.
0:00 Ginseng Strip 2002 Background
1:18 The Sample
2:00 LEVEL 1: Laptop Chick
3:12 LEVEL 2: Loop 61
8:40 LEVEL 3: Heart of Asia
17:12 LEVEL 4: MLV
26:40 English Translation
27:56 Why this loop is important
29:46 Internet Reaction To Finding the Loop
31:24 Julian_Caesar Message
Outro Song 1: open.spotify.com/track/6GUlI2...
Outro Song 2: open.spotify.com/track/5Z1Wpt...
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Production quality is top-notch, glad to be apart of it 🖤
ceasar, you're a beast! AMAZING work!
Legend
u a legend for finding the samples hats off to u ceasar
my king 😇🤭
Thanks bro!
I just love how this feels like watching a true crime documentary but is a doc about a yung lean sample instead, props
WHO! SANG! THE LOOP! It's so dramatic and so well researched whilst still being so utterly unimportant. I love it.
on point bro xD
"INDSNSKRT" is short for "india sanskrit", one of the oldest languages.. carnatic music is usually in sanskrit, kannada, tamil or other south indian languages
Yeah haha that seemed intuitive to me as well
The sample is in Kannada actually!
Exactly tell em mane
for sure
indiansskrrrt
SOS / Sound On Sound magazine interviewed Eric Persing, the founder of Spectrasonics, in the July 2000 issue, and they asked him about the Heart Of Asia sample CD in a section about vocal recordings:
" _Where_ _do_ _you_ _find_ _these_ _great_ _ethnic_ _singers?_ "
" _Believe_ _it_ _or_ _not,_ _sometimes_ _we_ _just_ _ask_ _people_ _if_ _they_ _can_ _sing._ _On_ _a_ _road_ _in_ _Nepal,_ _we_ _passed_ _a_ _old_ _peasant_ _man_ _carrying_ _a_ _huge_ _load_ _on_ _a_ _cart._ _We_ _introduced_ _ourselves_ _and_ _asked_ _him_ _if_ _he_ _could_ _sing_ _something_ _for_ _us._ _He_ _sets_ _down_ _his_ _load,_ _we_ _press_ _record_ _on_ _the_ _portable_ _DAT_ _and_ _what_ _comes_ _out_ _of_ _mouth_ _is_ _one_ _of_ _the_ _most_ _powerful_ _and_ _passionate_ _voices_ _I've_ _ever_ _heard!_ _He_ _finishes_ _his_ _song,_ _packs_ _up_ _his_ _load_ _and_ _goes_ _on_ _his_ _merry_ _way!_ "
Yeah I don't believe they found the singer - I used to make sample packs you literally grab recordings of whoever's willing to do it
@@blakasmurf what? you basically just said the same shit he said
@@malikfairley9926 Lol someone needs a stick removed from their butt... I just confirmed that we ACTUALLY did that when doing some of these World Sample Compilations. I've done stuff for Big Fish, Hollywood Edge etc. You record anyone playing or singing and sort it out later.
@@malikfairley9926 he's providing extra context...
@@malikfairley9926 precisely, he is agreeing
Yung Lean up in the club for some morphine
no it’s yunggggggggggggggg leannnnnnnnnnnnnn upp in the clubbbbbbbbbb for some morphine(morphine)
Always thought he said “feel so morphine”
it‘s actually ‚in the cut‘ not club
@@ynpavo nope, makes also no sense
@@uniquegod1997why not? Most drug deals happen “ in the cut”
hi I'm an Indian music producer, the omnisphere samples are short for: Indian Sanskrit NO... and sample no 31 says NAARAAYAN(One of the indian trinity hindu god). I guess they wrongly labeled the sample as sanskrit as it is kannada
Correct 💯
Yes this is what I heard too, I knew this instantly because The Prodigy has a song with this name, which has a similar style of vocal sample, chanting the words "OM Namah Narayana" and I remember looking it up to figure out what it ment
Ok so. is it the same song? The loop and MLV?
Graduated in 2013 and this song wasn’t popular then
@@wobseed6376 it wasn't popular in the mainstream. Yung Lean blew up in the alternative rap circuit. I remember his style + the production style of Yung Gud and Clams Casino being coined as "Cloud Rap" because of the ethereal sounds
Basically popular for anyone who was chronically online, meanwhile the mainstream stuff like Future, A$AP Rocky, Drake, etc. were dominating. At least that's what I observed as a high school sophomore back then. I graduated 2015
That sample definitely deserves a 30 min vid about it
sarcasm?
@@rehab_herr haha ya I was sarcastic when I 1st typed it , but thinking about it now and after watching tha whole video ; that sample is hard to find n definitely deserves its own vid
@@stabaholic187No bro. Just no lol
Only piece of advice on these videos bro, if you spoke to an Indian music expert or something (a lil zoom call) - that would’ve added so much more depth and context - amazing video, keep going
Exactly, like… ask somebody
true!
He didn't talk to anyone because I think he was (rightfully) afraid that this information might "leak" and subsequently make this video less impacting. That's understandable. Look at at what Tracklib did. Didn't even credit the redditors who found the samples. Disgusting behavior and no one cares.
@@juliuscaesar8163Or maybe because as a small time youtuber I'd be hard to get traction. I suspect if he wanted to do a follow up he'd get quite a few volunteers.
Ikr instead of butchering the words lol
Two things:
1. The original vocal of the sample does not necessarily have to come from MLV. A trained ear could tell you that it’s most likely not her in the four loops, and also, she was quite old even during the time the Ginseng track was made, and the person who laid the vocals down for the sampling is definitely younger. The song itself is a prayer song from the 1400s, so it’s definitely not uncommon to have a lot of Carnatic musicians sing it. Here’s a hypothesis:
Audio engineers and samplers go on literal adventures to find voices and sounds they could sample for posterity. Folk music and troubadourist culture is very much alive in the South Indian subcontinent, ranging from the Pakistani Frontier, Punjab, Kashmir and Balouch in the north to the various Carnatic languages in the South, languages such as Maithali in Bihar, eastwards to Bengal (which has its own treasure trove of a history of folk/troubadour culture) and the various tribes of East India and Myanmar. The original sampler might’ve just found a sweet, strong voice singing this common devotional song, be it from an anonymous, travelling troubadour or a companion, and recorded it, later to process it and lay it down as samples. As famously sung, “The hills are alive with the sound of music.”
2. That was fantastic, dude. I see a lot of comments futilising your effort, but this was a very well put together, methodical documentation of the search and find of various facets of a piece of “lost media”. And the community, and you in the end, jumped various cultural hoops to finally solve this puzzle. Kudos to you. It’s funny to me how my musical influences now were connected to the music of my homeland through such a cryptic adventure. Good going, best wishes.
Great video. I’m not convinced MLV sang that though, really doesn’t even sound like her. There’s timbre in the voice that isn’t quite matching up.
You should email/get ahold of the engineer who recorded the sessions from spectrasonics and find out who exactly did that.
I can see them bringing in a singer (doesn’t have to be popular) to sing the song. I mean really.
Other than the MLV claim seriously amazing video.
great video but the vocalist is probly some random session musician and not the iconic MLV. imagine if someone wanted to find a sample that's from a jazz standard, so they listened to a few covers and thought it sounded most like ella fitzgerald. you wouldn't be sure it's The Ella Fitzgerald now imagine jazz is a weird foreign genre you never heard growing up and the particular jazz standard is ANCIENT and the usa has over a BILLION people in it
you just would not be prepared to figure out which vocalist recorded anything, especially without speaking the language
but what you did find is all top notch, apart from being overconfident of that one thing, you killed this video
i agree. the final answer is still up in the air. you can't just find a similar singer and make a guess. you have to back it up.
the crediting with samples on non-western music is brutally imprecise because of a lack of documentation/care put into respecting foreign cultures.
look into deep forest if you want a similar story. their song sweet lullaby devolved into a legal battle over sample rights between the original recording's owner and the band, not even involving the original singer. it's likely she never heard the outcome of the sample nor received any compensation. it's a damn shame at best and a crime at worst.
the video was great up until that leap of logic. but until someone affiliated with spectrasonic gives an answer as to who they recorded for the song, we will never know the voice behind the sample.
Was gonna come here to say the same thing, glad other people are saving me the time!
I doubt they even booked a session just close miced in someone who was willing to sing for them maybe in their own home somewhere. I used to make sample packs you literally grab recordings of whoever's willing to do it
so happy this is being brought up. why would a small recording company go and seek one of the most popular singers just for some sample work? work that doesn't even credit her....? it makes absolutely no sense... of course to save on expenses they would get a random/no name singer that doesn't have a large asking price! 0% chance its her. so imo, unless the recording company Spectrasonics themselves can find out who they recorded, we'll likely never truly know
regardless i absolutely loved watching this video, was so well put together and im so happy those that originally found the sample packs are getting proper credit for it!
I agree, also I think bro missed a huge detail, MLV died back in 1990, the Heart of Asia sounded pretty freaking crisp, so it had to be new
music history class in 40 years
Great video, and I think it was really wholesome that you gave credit for the people who found it
this is crasy now we need lean and MLV linkup
😂😂
gonna be tough, since MLV died 6 years before Yung Lean was even born... maybe we can use some of that time travel technology that Spectrasonics used.
@@machinaterip 🙏
@@machinateso it had to be the other lady?
She has passed away sadly
i personally dont think either of the singers sound like the loop, its very possible theyre just a singer they hired that doesn’t record or release their own music so it truly might be unfindable. u cant say u found the singer when its not confirmable at all. i dont wanna seem rude though this video is very well made and enjoyable 👍❤️
I highly doubt it's MLV, she died in 1990, and the recording sounds quite modern.
@@machinatethe pack was released in November 1994, it’s not her.
@@TheresAlwaysATalisman this is the piece of information that I don’t know why he didn’t mention, MLV passed away before the release of the pack and I don’t think Spectrasonics kept on a paycheck for years the engineers in India for some recordings, probably it all happened in months or less. The video tho is really nice
doesnt mean it wasnt recorded in 1990. shit takes a long time to release@@TheresAlwaysATalisman
Wow this was so insightful and just utterly amazing! I’m blown away! Thank you for sharing ❤
Great video! I just wanted to point out an interesting fact, that it's not "nadayana" but "narayana". It's the same Sanskrit word you can here in the Prodigy song "Narayan". Apparently “Narayana” is a Sanskrit word which translates to English as 'one who sleeps in the waters'. Nar ( pronounced naar) = water, Ayan = Sleep. It refers to the god Vishnu.
Narayan is one of the gods in Indian mythology
Nice video bro, You should make videos like this on all sorts of samples. I would watch.
Thanks. You did a fantastic job. It was like a feature length Song Exploder episode.
I'm so impressed that you went to the effort to translate the vocal into English.
Incredible work man. That sample is a banger.
its crazy that archive people and people who find stuff with situations like this are rarely ever recognized and its kinda become a part of being a part of the archive community
The internet is communism baby
Great video dude. I was bumping Yung Lean back in 2013. It's pretty wild seeing how much he has progressed over the past decade. Much love, hope to see more deep dives into samples.
this is gonna blow up
Great vid bro, thanks!
I cant stop talking about this video. Honestly you killed this. Keep this style content going dude. 100/10 for me. Great editing, story telling, and investigative work. I LOVED THIS. Cant wait for another one similar.
The amount of work and obsession that went into this deserves admiration and respect ! Thank you for sharing this .
Spectrasonics most likely just hired some random female singer to do the vocal loops. Honestly you could probably find the singer in the credits for the heart of Asia pack.
for sure thats how it usually is, but its not unlikely theres no credit to the singer
Am I living in some alternate universe or did you just not watch the video?
@@COALEDasICE This guy obviously didn't find the real singer💀 he wrapped things up real quick because he wanted to drop this video and you can tell.
There’s no credits on the pack
@@Adam-sn4zi go back and watch the video then delete your original comment so you don't continue to look like an idiot
I remember seeing Tracklibs sample breakdown on this song. Despite never hearing it before I couldn't help but admire the ingenuity on how it was built. And I'm glad you're shedding some light on who originally found it, as well as the song. The singer is still contentious, but we're definitely on the right track. Epic!
Class! More sample mysteries would be awesome!
The editing and music is on point with channels like LEMMiNO, this is actually insane.
Insane vid well done, the sample flip on the end wrapped up beautifully.
Amazing video, watched every second of this video, didn't even skip a second. Dude seriously keep make these pop culture rabbit hole research projects.
Excellent work and super well. Delivered, shared, liked, saved! Smashed it!!!
Had to put ts on 1.75 x speed
@Based138 bros can't watch a video longer than 5 minutes 💀yall's attention span is cooked.
@@FrequencyFilthynah the dude jus talks hella slow
@@FrequencyFilthyput it on 1.75. It sounds like a normal person talking.
u so right, video is good but slow asl
@@FrequencyFilthymaybe we just got jobs yk?
The fact that this video exists is the best example of go outside and touch some green grass I've ever witnessed.
This is such a clean video edit. With waveforms playing and colors, I don't know how you did it. I love it. Props to you for mentioning the real og's that found the original ginseng sample! ✌✌
that fact that he keeps saying INDSNSKRT before each number every time is driving me nuts. cool shit tho
Insane
😂😂😂😂😂
Great finally a full video about this! Thanks
Bro I didn’t know the fourth part, fucking insane work, love this, thanks so much
Great job breaking it all down. Made for an interesting watch
The pacing of this video is hilariously annoying its like hes trying to stretch everything twice as long as necessary
Yes!! I agree… I gave up 10:32 into it.
2x
Dude does tell us to get a snack at the beginning.
crazy video man, this is straight up art history, should be some thesis about this song in the next century🙌
Mad respect to you bruh. This much of research bruh madness, from a single loop to its original indian composer, cover singers even the meanings of lyrics. You deserve separate royalty for this...
Incredible work dude, great video. Thought you were done then saw I was only halfway through the video haha. Fantastic stuff
Great ressearch! Would like to see more videos like this
Amazing video and hope the people who discovered it get all the credit they deserve!
loved the vid and I can't get enough! great job man!
awesome, keep up the good work man
Crazy you only have 1.4k subs! Very captivating video, looking forward to more mysteries like this one
super awesome video man , you got me hooked couple second into the video, it surprised me!
keep up the good work cause this shit should blow up!
It's gonna sound cliché but Ginseng Strip 2002 was genuinely ahead of its time
Definitely, but also give some cred to Clams Casino
@@funnyyellowdog8833 for sure, however Lil B’s rap style is more akin to old school hip hop. Aside from production, Yung Lean’s rap style is vastly different and when Ginseng Strip 2002 came out it took a few years for it to take off, moreover even despite its attention it took a further few years for people to look back and appreciate the song. I do think that the beat itself carries but that’s arbitrary.
not necessarily ahead of it's time but it's a timeless beat
Damn man. You put so much work into this video. You deserve so much more.
Danm bro that some dedication #greatworkbrother❤
damn, this video is interesting throughout and never halts the pace. hope it gains some traction
great video and music. keep going!
Amazing research and presentiation we need more videos like this
unbelievable video, love it
Really great video production young man. Very impressive!
Really nice video, keep up the work!
this is legendary, thank you for that
Great job! ❤🎉
Super dope video man- well done
Impressive video, super cool to see the origin of a very nostalgic song for me!
Damn man you really got deep into the search. Amazing video
Man respect for your work huge Respect+
Bro you're a legend, your research is top notch!! Respect
Well done man. Great video
I thought I was just gonna watch 5-10 mins of this video, but ended up finishing the whole thing in one sit. Well made video doc!
Parabéns pelo vídeo! Como produtor de Boom Bap, eu curto muito descobrir samples, e também fazer bons cortes, e gosto de saber a origem de samples de outros beats famosos também! Muito bom!
Damn, great work dude. 💪🏽💯
goated video fr crazy how this was made by a yt channel with less than 1k subs
You did a great job.
I listened to the whole thing without the visuals. I was thankful that you referenced something on the screen and then had either recorded audio or you were reading it out loud.
The music was good and the levels were consistent.
10/10
One question: once you had the lyrics you stopped.
You stopped finding factual verification of the songs origin and you let your bias get in the way.
The person that sing the song is more than likely still alive.
yeah, there's a lot that speaks against mlv being the singer and a lot more for a younger and more unknown singer at the time.
I like your stuff bruh, im definitely subscribing.
Brilliant work
all i can say is this channel is way underrated , keep going 🔥
Fucking beautiful story progression, editing and passion for music!
damn, beginning to end a well made video AND The song at the end is also pretty fire. just DLd it.
Props to you for not doing just enough. You went down that rabbit hole that 99% of people wouldn’t bother to do. Never heard of the guy but I enjoyed the process.
Fire video man crazy story 🔥
Bro. I never go out of my way to comment but I’m so fucking impressed by this doc. Everything about it is so good. Well done man 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you for setting the record straight and giving credit where it's due. Had me on the edge of my seat during this intriguing spectacle.
Do more vids like this!
samples come and go brah, but you know i stay
You got a sub for this. You do a couple videos this good a year? You’ll probably have a long career. Once a quarter? Once you have an audience that’ll be a good career! As a former producer/Dj myself I appreciate that obsessive need to figure out a sample, so as soon as I saw this video I was in. Great stuff man.
Love the lore and stories around artists like Yung Lean, Spooky Black, Corbin, Bobby Raps, and more. ❤
insanely underrated, you deserve more subs
Great work man, your efforts are actually commendable. I remember seeing the tracklib video and trying to find the actual song myself as I was more curious being an Indian. I discovered some things but you have finally solved it for everyone. Fascinating story and amazing storytelling. Thank You Sir.
Edit: Another awesome story from Indian Mythology : I checked out Ajamila's tale (mentioned in loop) in which the brahmana falls in love with a vicious woman and leaves his wife along with his pure saint life submitting to temptation. He pollutes himself with gambling, drinking and other sins. He has 10 children with the woman and names the youngest one Narayana (also mentioned in the loop). It is also a second name of Lord Vishnu, one of the three most prominent Indian Gods. While on his deathbed, he speaks out his son's name so the men of lord appear before the messengers of death coming to carry him. They have a dialogue on righteousness and punishment that states a sinful to redeemed even by utterance of the Divine's name. He witnesses all this exchange and realizes the vile life he led claiming he is unworthy of saving but ultimately he achieves moksha.
your style reminds me of nexpo. great stuff
Appreciate you!
quality content, though that title can *definitely* be argued against
MF DOOM's "Fazers" still hasn't been found
Insane video!!!!! Subscribed!!!!
Wow you put in work... Done well
Wow! Would be an excruciating watch if I had that much free time to waste. Keep up the work! 🖤
I have to say, I found the whole “and now we have all the pieces… or do we?” thing a bit obnoxious but regardless, this was a super fun and informative video with great production quality so keep going (:
amazing video bro
you just got a new subscriber
Never heard of Young Lean or this song, but good video!
Was expecting all links in the description especially the one you said you'd link. Maybe another day, if not thank you Sir.
Thank you Julian Casablancas. You are legend
great video bro
haiiii
riashvashir
really good video!!
What an amazing video 🔥🙌