I love how Milo's stories never really drew much skepticism despite being too cool to be real and, in some cases, physically impossible, yet the story that he'd died suddenly at 79 was what roused everyone's suspicions.
@@sirrealism7300 Especially, when it's coming from someone who moderates a jailbait sub reddit or all things. My guess is that people who knew he was lying just ignored him as some loser creep while others straight up just don't know him.
It is funny, but I totally understand not raising an eyebrow at a user who claims to be a grizzled old vet having outlandish/exaggerated stories to tell any audience he can get his hands on. At the same time, I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow at his death personally, even though it did feel a bit too tidy in hindsight, in the moment I'd have likely just said RIP and moved on (assuming I cared at all, which I likely wouldn't have).
My money is still the same as when I first hear do this on redweb, mercenarys hiding their info on a borderline cp site. If you think about it, it kinda makes sense! If your a normal person, you don't go there. If your a sicko, you don't crack into the code to find the listings. Ether way, they probibly won't get caught posting hits on arms dealers!
I don't think I've ever seen a side of UA-cam grow so beautiful as the internet mystery side has. Like channels like nexpo and barely socialable and lemmino have gone from just explaining a story in decent detail to breaking them wide open with brand new research. It's just been a pleasure to see over the last few years
bro car review community, maker community, food community, game review community, whatever genre Internet Historian even is... I think the best growth ever though is the archaeology and the satellite archaeology community I've observed that for over a decade now we've learned so much about our past in that time, together. RIP cfrapps we miss you Chuck.
I haven’t heard of Lemmino. Will check him out. My two favorites are Nexpo and my number 1 would probably be Lazy Masquerade. Lazy is more frightening material, however. Like how Nexpo has some freaky shit but leans moreso into the mysterious, Lazy has some mysterious shit that leans more into the downright disturbing. Both channels are brilliant. My only problem with either one is I have no more footage to watch until the newest video comes out, because I got so addicted.
@@cosmosaic8117 LEMMiNO's stuff is top notch. I'd also recommend Quinton Reviews's trilogy on The Decline of the History Channel (insightful and funny) and, depending on what kind of content you're looking for, maybe Ahoy's video on Polybius, blameitonjorge, Calum, Down the Rabbit Hole, Paper Skies, TREY the Explainer, Zepherus, or some of Drachinifel's more dryly humorous videos like "The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron: Voyage of the Damned".
theres nothing like a good hour long youtube documentary on some disturbing thing that happened ten years ago that you know literally nothing about to lift your spirits
I heard someone float the idea that Milo actually stands for military Information Liaison Officer. It's a position referenced in intelligence handbooks. The guy who took over for him has a name that is common military jargon in Britain as well (twosix).
It's interesting that he uses British military slang as well. He mentions that he served in Palestine from 1946-1949. This refers to the British occupation of Mandatory Palestine from Israeli and Arab militia within the province. As far as I know, Americans did not serve or even assist Britain or the opposing forces in Palestine until the Israeli declaration of independence in 1948. MILOs also served exclusively in Cold War-era Germany in intelligence gathering operations and not in Mandatory Palestine. Which is strange because he mentions being raised in Pennsylvania and being American. It's seems, if any part of this story is true, it means that this man is not in fact an American, but a Brit.
@@belgebelgravia100 Huh, I didn't know any of that. Definitely fits with the idea that all the players were fabricated and that TwoSix and Milo are the same person.
It's not necessarily a British thing. In the US military those are callsigns. The first number designates what squad or platoon. The second number is their position. 6 is the officer in charge. 7 would be the highest NCO. It was even mentioned that 2-6 is a position not a specific person. Which checks out
Bro if I was Netflix, HBO Max, Hulu, etc I'd be FALLING OVER MYSELF trying to sign Nexpo to create and produce hour an long docuseries on mysteries exactly like this. If it ain't broke...
I cant believe people held this guy up as a sort of hero all the reddit posts ive seen say they loved this guy and he literaly posted cp what a horrible cess pool reddit is
I remember going on r/askreddit to find some rabbit holes, one of them mentioned the Milo guy so I checked his account and only his latest comment and I didn't think much about it until when I saw the thumbnail of this video so I checked it and I was horrified, I did not know any of the things shown (I did not know what's so special about the Milo guy so thankfully I did not idolize him)
Never heard of this guy before I watched this video. As soon as I heard that he was a mod on the jailbait subreddit, I immediately knew what kind of person he was and I did not like it
I almost skipped this one because it's such an old mystery everyone and their mother has made a video on, but you revealed plenty of new stuff in the second half. Well done!
Considering how much of "milo"s online presence was either military stories or jailbait related, I assumed this was going to be a human trafficking story
On the surface it looks to be an illegal content sharing group, leaders got spooked and decided to erase their tracks before agencies found out who they were.
When a youtuber isn't a youtuber, this content is on a different stratosphere. The time and effort that went into this video is insane. Keep it up Nexpo you absolute beast.
@@1EliPrice exactly haha, Barely Sociable covered this like a year ago in only 30 minutes. Not anything against Nexpo but this is one of the most well known "internet mysteries" Edit: after finishing the video I admit I was wrong, Nexpo did a lot of independent research and revealed some info I've never heard before this point, so props to him
Seems like I’m in the minority here who had no idea this shit existed, which is fine by me because this was a wild ride. Fantastic video as always, excellent editing, awesome content, and fully engaging throughout the whole thing. Bravo again Nexpo, if I had the money to spare I’d chuck it all at you
Me too lol Most of the things Nexpo posts I've never heard before, because I don't really search for internet mysteries beyond the youtubers I follow. It's interesting hearing about these things, specially with the way Nexpo makes his videos. The use of imagery is really well done and his voice is a good one for narrating.
The way he says his age a few times in different threads while talking to people makes it feel like someone’s trying to establish a character. Most old people don’t want to reveal their age online because they feel like they’re taken less seriously. They benefit from the anonymity more than most because they can just be taken for their knowledge and experience. It’s definitely suspicious that a person would state their age more than once.
Damned if you do damned if you dont tbh. When I don’t make my age clear but people see my face, they don’t take me seriously because they think I’m like 19. When I do state my age, suddenly I’m too old for the internet. Granted users perceived as men likely have a different experience than mine. And when my face isn’t shown and no one knows my age that’s generally when information is taken the most seriously.
I actually knew an 80 year old who is pretty active on forums and such. He's chill, but talks nothing like Milo did; his tone was more grandfatherly and he never got agressive.
Staying active while you are elderly is important I’ve noticed, all the elderly people I’ve met who work active jobs for a long time since they were younger are way healthier than others I’ve met. Milo is active he was also ex mil and an active soldier of fortune dudes a confirmed piece of shit but he was active and that kept his mind active. Doesn’t justify his actions it just explains why he was so coherent for someone his age despite his….. very offensive proclivities. My grandma and others who I know who worked as clerks or customer service are all severely mentally and physically ill. All of the elderly folks I’ve met,60 year old driver for ups I helped when I was a seasonal driver helper for 3 years(the other 2 years from his recommendation because he thought I was a hard worker unlike other people my age) dude could throw 100 pounds over his shoulder like a feather and had more energy than I did and was fit af(he chugged Mountain Dew and are gummy worms like a monster on breaks like wtf this dudes a monster). I think we can all Scoff at the effect of working out or working hard jobs but I’ve seen the effects of it and it’s honestly awe inspiring at how much it effects your health even if you eat unhealthy working out seems extremely important to human biology.
There's no goddamn way Milo was really who he said he was. Born in 1930 and enlisted in the armed forces at age thirteen, fought in both World War II and the Vietnam War at some of the most famous and historically important battles of the century, but decides to retire from the military and retrain in his mid fifties to become a software engineer? That's already highly suspect. On top of that, he's somehow still employed at nearly eighty years old and yet has the time to converse with people on social media and moderate a subreddit created to host explicit images of underage girls, yeah fucking right. And of course he's a grizzled old war horse who is mean and ornery but has at least one friend in Angel Two Six who conveniently knows about his activities on Reddit and is willing to make an account just to tell everyone on his disgusting child pornography message board that he's passed away. The entire story absolutely reeks of fakery and bullshit. I also don't believe that any of these guys were secretly hitmen for hire or coordinated mercenaries. I believe they really wanted to be, but they were miserable maladjusted child-lovers who only felt comfortable among their own ranks. There's no way these losers were traveling around the world committing high profile assassinations.
I'm with you on this cause $3-$4k per job is shameful...like even that Texan cheerleader's mom was tryin' to pay a livable hit wage 😂 Also, I'd be like totally embarrassed to put "Team lead assassin for the execution of just one guy" on my CV..."Special skills that make me a nightmare for people like you: pillow holder"
I think that’s exactly what this is. Just some sad pathetic pedo that spends his time online lying to feed his delusions of grandeur and need for attention
My first video of Nexpo. Can't believe we get documentaries like this for FREE on UA-cam nowadays. Great times. Keep up the great work, man. Absolutely loved it.
After having watched barely sociable's video on this (his video was great as well), this blew my mind when I saw it was an hour long. I seriously have respect for the amount of time you spend researching about the topics of your videos Nexpo. You found out so much more info on this, even hired private investigators to help, your content is truly amazing.
I mean, probably just a coincidence, but the fact that 2-6 felt the need to bring up RoP's cat, not only the reddit death post, but also the HTML post, being given to the neighbor, only to have things later fall into the hands of someone named MadamMeow, seems like something at least worth talking about
Good catch, the name was weird (didn't seemingly sync up much with the others); fits well and I never assumed it was actually a woman...but could easily be a persona connected to the whole exchange.
Hired a P.I.? Does he show receipts? Did he confirm that he wasn't just saying that for dramatic effect for the sake of good storytelling? He is a great storyteller and setting the atmosphere in this way would make sense whether he actually used a licensed P.I. (or multiple) or if he just asked his roommate to "investigate" some links... I'm of the opinion that the nexpo creators are quite literally elite level private investigators themselves, in regards to all things internet... they would be hard pressed to find and also hire a more effective internet investigator. Maybe they just gave themselves a bonus.
I thought that I knew everything there was to know about LCQP. Turns out, I was wrong. I always felt like there was a lot more to this story and every UA-camr that covered this topic merely only scratched the surface. Thanks for the deep dive.
I was up all night digging through all the pastebin links, and very few of the uploaded images were still able to be downloaded. Plus, it was open to the public, as well, so increase the needle in haystack. I had a website run a site map on the email contacts list from the crystalwind archive, and if memory serves, it's like 3000 individual pages. That type of text was used alot in at least one of the r/lcqp subs. Around the same time as word was getting around about the page source code, u/godsoldercousin posted a bunch of obfuscated text with the thread titled compromised (I can't remember if it was fashioned the same way or not, but that account is still active to this day). There are more reddit accounts involved, as well that at least pretended to be in the know or whatever. It's crazy that it's even bigger than this hour long video.
Can you imagine how many messed up things or even mysteries are happening right now that we'll only discover years from now. This world is an intriguing place
It's fascinating but depressing, isn't it? How much trafficking, murder, and CP is going on at this _very moment?_ All the while people are getting away with it due to knowing people with lots of money or power. And people wonder why overall trust and real-world socializing of people has gone down since the internet was invented. Hard to trust anyone when you're made aware of how horrible people are in secret - people you might literally pass by on a walk.
I love how a deeper dive into the mystery actually raises more questions than it answers. I was so content with the simple answer of "it's an assassination ring."
I did my own investigation awhile back. One thing you didn’t mention is that many of the archived photos also add extra layers of perplexity, some of which add to the strangeness of the story, given the context. 1. Locations - many of the pictures feature locations from around the world. On the surface, these look like tourist photos. However, the pictures aren’t of famous sites or typical travel features (landscape views, selfies, activities, etc.). Many of them are outside pictures of hotels and nondescript buildings, things that would otherwise be uninteresting to the average tourist. 2. Architecture - some of the pictures are odd, out of place photos of doors and windows, with no context or description. Others are of specific entry points with a particular focus on signs that denote the entry point as being alarmed. 3. The woman - There are several photos posted across different years that feature an Asian woman in various locations around the world. It is the same woman in all the pictures.
He didn't touch on the fact of the website itself at all. Like yes, i understand the connections he made etc etc, but what about the purpose of the website itself, the coded messages and everything else? Why go so far to make it look like some kind of assassin marketplace when you are just going to fake your own death anyway? Definitely much more to the story than what was mentioned
Further to this; if you read the final line in the bottom post at 38:05 - there is a very dubious line from the LCQP admin noting how everyones"pics, hard work, and memories" were hosted on the site. _Memories_ is the odd part that stuck out to me here. Hard work could imply the effort of gathering JB image collections, ...but "memories?" - to me this suggests images relating to the jobs were hosted on the site. Makes sense for a global operation - someone scouts out the location and uploads entry points etc, and those executing whatever mission travel in with increased success rate due to better planning / having appropriate tools etc. OP I've not seen the pictures you but I would imagine it's all evidence, and, if the places could be tracked down, it may be possible to ask around and find out what strange events happened during the relevant timeline at the locations. This could prove an important piece of the puzzle in confirming or denying the claim that the jobs were "heist/smuggling ops". Hope you have the pics archived.
@@eightbo I actually do! A few of them anyways. I just took a few of the ones that stood out to me the most, but I remember there were quite a few, and I hadn’t even gone through half the archive. Edit: So now I can’t even pull up LCQP on the Wayback Machine. I’m hoping it’s an error on my end
@@bsgfan1The archive being wiped/disappearing is highly peculiar, especially when taking into account the various accounts on the forum that were also wiped (or ‘hacked’..). If there is more to it than what meets the eye, it would make sense for someone to be scrubbing all of, or as much of, the evidence as possible. Beyond this being suspicious or questionable, it’s also rather disappointing, as I’d been hoping to dig into this mystery a bit further myself. That being said, I’m almost certain others would have complete backups of the data.
Man, after everything that happened involving the events surrounding Lake City Quiet Pills, I'm just glad one thing is made assuredly clear... thank god Fat Tommy and Stu are okay
Damn it. Why don't I feel like this is over yet? The most comprehensive dive into this subject, with, at least to me, new information. Yet despite this I feel like this just opened up new wormholes to crawl through
They were furries in real life who did some perv stuff on Second Life. That explains their interest in 3D model packs. When the image board died they went to a TOR server instead.
I thought barelysociable had gotten all the info there was and that it would remain a mystery forever but goddamn did NEXPO really did into this and gather some really crucial details. That being said, i kind of wish that he mentioned if he tried those encryption keys on the LCQP messages that no one has been able to crack.
The whole Milo death story sounds more like code to me as do his different characters. It reads like a movie script and I have to wonder if things like "gave his old scruffy cat to the little girl next door" is code for something, along with the birth and death dates. The cat thing and even Milo himself are such cliches and it's interesting that they take the time to mention giving "the cat" to the "next door neighbor" twice. Cue spoopy spy music.
Dunno if somebody else already explained it, but I think the 43:30 "Email Contacts" link is a classic spam trap. Basically, the site would be set up so that it'd produce an infinite number of those pages of fake e-mail addresses, so that spambots trawling the web (and unable to notice the text "Don't use these") would endlessly add the fake addresses to their database and crash.
Does dovetail into the disdain for spammers, too. I thought the list was supposed to be a maze of some sort where something would be hidden in one specific path through all the links, but I think the spam trap approach makes more sense.
I thought I’d say this but 2-6 is often related to the Marine Corps infantry unit 2nd Battalion 6th Marine regiment. Angel is usually a short nickname for Guardian Angel which is common term associated with DM “designated marksman” or snipers. At the end of your video there was a guy who said commented to Angel 2-6 saying Semper Fi which is the Marine Corps motto
@@nervesinapattern7261 He may have been entirely fake and so turning into a different person to find the body of 'Milo' would be no more difficult. Especially since nobody bothered to sleuth it in real life like 4chan does at the drop of a hat nowadays. Most likely not an ARG either. Probably just a bunch of online war/militia nerds roleplaying. Even if they were actually criminals of some sort they could have been massively gussying up their resumes for potential clients.
It's possible the "Don't use these Email Contacts" link could be an anti-scraper tool. Back in the day some web developers (myself included) would add a page that contained "garbage" addresses in hopes it would flood web scrapers with useless information. I can't say for sure that's the case here, but figured I'd share this anyway.
Lets appretiate that this guy checked years of internet site history, reddit posts, went through fucking child phodn sites and even hired fucking private investigators to provide us with this one hour of content. Literally as high effort as it gets.
My initial thought is that Lake City Quiet Pills would be a pretty blatant reference to bullets. Lake City is a massive gov-owned ammo plant in the US, they make a lot of the military's ammo. If you ever look at the headstamp on a cartridge and see a big ol' LC, it's from the Lake City plant. Edit: Nevermind, you got it. This is why you watch the whole video first, kids.
I got the reference immediately, when I first got into guns I thought milspec was the coolest. I thought I was cool because was shooting Lake City 5.56😂😂. I almost posted something until I scrolled down and saw your post lol.
I know exactly what the page at 43:28 is supposed to be! I've unfortunately forgotten who originally made this and what it was called (this was in late 1990s), but basically, someone wrote a program that you could deploy on your own web page that would generate random email addresses and links that would lead to the same page. The idea was that bots that harvested email addresses for spammers would have their database flooded with bogus addresses, and get caught in a loop of fetching that stuff over and over. That's why the link to the page says "Don't use these email contacts"; the thing is supposed to be a bait for the bots and not exactly intended for human readers. As said, I don't remember who originally made the thing, but it was open source and it was widely discussed among the anti-spam community at the time.
I remember reading about thos... I'm not sure but maybe it was in a Issue of 2600 I say that because it was the only paper magazine I would ever read. Good catch bro.
My current working theory: Mike was a technical writer who was down on his luck yet ambitious. He originally started the Crystal Wind page to try and create a consulting firm, but in the end it amounted to nothing. Parallel to this, he began getting involved with the wrong crowd, a CP ring that was highly skilled when it came to technical stuff (that line of code could’ve very well just been a project one of them had been showing off). They would even meet up, forming a sort of close-knit community (probably all the same locale too, since it operated solely from New Jersey and they seemed to expect everyone to know why the site would be down due to storms). Along the way, Mike created a couple of online personas that could be seen on the well-tread pages of the Internet, where he indulged in his fetish more openly and even hosted his own image sharing website to the point he got tired (or paranoid) of the mainstream and decided to start killing his more-public personas one by one to separate himself from them and go back into obscurity. Eventually, probably because he finally wanted to get his life back on track or something much darker (maybe he even got a job which explains how he can pay for the site), he disappeared entirely and the main HQ for his former pornography crew to gather kept getting traded to new admins who couldn’t keep it running (and, considering that most of them just up and ran, probably had to escape the country or were arrested). DSF would eventually be pretty much the only place left, only for the 2017 event to take place. My guess is that Mike changed his ways and came back with a vengeance, tearing everything apart for his former comrades, but that probably is too optimistic. Another guess could be that someone realized they could get got by authorities and attempted to cover their tracks.
Im on this theory, still alot of the shit doesn't add up, like wtf is up with the whole Persona, the whole hidden Hitman stuff on the site before people really noticed. I mean why would you do that kind of stuff, maybe to set people off but Idk, it just seems weird. It really seems more hoax then reality. But some Cp was probably involved.
@@IndicatedGoodLife I know I’m late but like it’s weird bro right? Like what if he was just doing it for himself, I can’t believe he thought so many people would look into it that deep, Idk it’s just so weird
Nah, it was all just a hoax by a troll. I know everyone wants to believe in huge conspiratorial rings but real life is usually simpler. Barely Sociable confirmed it was just a hoax all along
Yeah but it better be good and not some reup load bs. His last videos have been weak asf. And this one has already been dove into by Barely Sociable 2 years ago so let’s see.
Jesus, how long does he take investigating?! Not even me for my college degree thesis lmao. It's truly amazing how much effort this man puts into these videos.
There's A+ and then there's "You're way too damn good for this shit, you should be the professor!" kind of A+. lol all jokes aside, the amount of work he puts in to try and figure out who this catfish account is is commendable and entertaining. I can't wait for more
I must admit, I was a bit annoyed when I first saw this video, because EVERYONE has covered this. (I was introduced by Barely Sociable) But after watching it, you easily have the best, most painstakingly researched version of this mystery, and it's one of your very finest uploads. Well done Ryan
I was skeptical too. It took me about 6 days to actually watch this. I’m just now finally finishing this. Like I swear to god some of these UA-cam’s could be detectives.
Those UA-camrs that have covered this topic only covers it for a few minutes (10 at most) and moves on. This guy goes into every small detail of the topic and made it look interesting. Respect to Nexpo!
@shiny♡igglybuff♡gaming That's what I thought, but he made what is normally a 10-15 min video into an hour long extremely detailed fantastic video filled with "new" details that you won't find in the other videos. I love Barely Sociable, but Nexpo has him beat on Lake City Quiet Pills lol not to mention the aesthetics are perfect here.
I know this isnt the newest video, I'm catching up. But having been a fan since around like 2017. You're editing and oveall production style has gotten so insanely good. I feel like its so distinct and makes the videos so much more engaging and interesting. Just really impressed and happy for all you've achieved.
Yo Nexpo have you heard of the indigo mystic? Her story is insane, she started out on UA-cam and her (I think now deleted) videos shows her progression to insanity and I think you'd be able to cover the story beautifully, the best part about it is that the events carried out happened about 2 years ago so it's relatively obscure from what I could tell on youtube
Man i dont know whether to thank you or to curse at you what an awful rabbit hole to go down but god thank you for spreading the word about this horrible situation prayers go out to jessicas daughters and especially the family of the deputy who was killed i cant believe something like this wasnt talked about more
@@justdark863 honestly man its not really much of a spooky mystery rabbit hole and just the rabbit hole of a mother with mental illness having her life taken along with a deputy while her children film and cry from upstairs honestly just a heart breaking situation for everybody and i think the best thing to do would not have too many people get into it and just let her daughters have peace you know how some internet “sleuths” will harass people but if youre curious i would check it out but just under the notion not to harass anyone because its really a horrible situation noone should have to go through
@@justdark863 the indigo mystic was an insane woman that would constantly overspend and overstay her welcome wherever she lived, being unable to afford proper housing for her children and keeping them away from their father. She trained them to record any argument she had or anything so she could blast them on UA-cam, and one day she got into an argument with a police officer I believe, and her kids recorded it as she shot him. I’m probably getting a few details wrong as it’s been a few months since I’ve looked at a video about it
absolutely CRUSHED the edit on this one dude !! the spooky early internet atmosphere, the transitions, the whole vibe, just wOw. honestly one of my favorite uploads of yours to date. keep it up🤙🏼
around 47 days ago, Milo's account had another unintelligible post made which linked to another website. The account might have been hacked but it’s still creepy to think about it.
and angels means an altitude in thousands of feet. angel 2-6 = 26,000 foot altitude also considered to be the height at which humans can no longer breathe without supplementary oxygen.
"Dutch Milo" would be someone with a Dutch surname; Milo could be his actual first name, a nickname, or the abbreviation, thus he becomes "Dutch Milo" to specify _that_ one. 2-6 is interesting. -6 usually denotes a CO or leader (they're at the six o'clock position in a formation; the novel _RAINBOW Six_ is named after its main character, the CO of Rainbow Team, for instance), while 2 could be a second force: Angel 2-6 sounds like a call sign, A (Angel, Alpha) 2 (second group) 6 (leader).
I was first introduced to this topic through Barely Sociable, and was immediately hooked. Thank you for such an in depth and fascinating look into this mystery! Keep up the great work!
I was feeling some MAJOR deja vu when I saw this vid and was worried I was going insane when I saw the upload time. Thank you for reminding me that I’m (somewhat) mentally stable.
This is vladimir Putin, President of Russia Some people kidnapped me and put my duplicate in Russia. I didn't start the war, he did. I escaped and now hiding in your country. Can you send me 3000rs so I can go back to Russia and stop this war. This is real me.
The most blatant piece of evidence that this site isn't a front for a group of paramilitary assassins is that I don't think an operation like that would get off the ground if the guy running it can't see the very obvious problem with tying an image hosting service for borderline-cp to the same URL. That's like hiding records of tax evasion in the stolen car you keep on your front lawn...
I always figured his 'name' being 'Milo' was itself a sort of joke and cover, a reference to First Lieutenant Milo Minderbinder from Catch-22, who was also an amoral business man that skirted the various realities of the modern world with his unflappable thinking. Separately if you've never read Catch-22 dear lord do so, it's sincerely in the running for the most amusing book ever written. It's like a War Novel co-written by Lewis Carroll & Douglas Adams.
ahh. i love catch-22 so much. but, yes, i did indeed notice many similarities throughout the lcqp explanation and catch-22- granted, i haven't read the latter since 4th grade so my memory is a little hazy lol but yeah it really does seem like the reference to six and twos is a very common thread within the lcqp story, and, of course, just the title of the book itself. i cant recall if 6 had any significance in the story of catch-22 so i'll definitely have to reread it in the next couple days and come back to this video!
That’s a good way of putting it. Though the accidental-murder-then-suicide of two main characters was intense. Part of the point of the book, though, WAS the intensity of war
the biggest thing that gives the guy away as not actually 79 y/o is his lack of double spacing between sentences. he would have learned how to type on a typewriter and, without a doubt, would double space between a period and the start of a sentence. i’m only 25 and it’s how my mom taught me to type on a computer bc it’s how she learned on a typewriter.
His military background and whatever work he was still doing as a liaison would have meant he was trained in modern tech like the internet. This was a giant thing in intelligence in the 90s and even the old guys were tech literate.
He would have been basically trained on how to use the internet as it grew, on an internet well above what civilians had, well into his 40s when he retired and went into contract work.
Angel 26 sounds like the callsign for a military flight. I worked in airfield management in the Air Force so have heard pretty much every callsign and that's the first thing I think of when I hear it. Edit -also, JP-4 is jet fuel used by the Air Force until the mid 90s.
These people were just Second Life life LARPers who shared porn on the internet. They probably used callsigns because they heard them in video games. All the secret text about hotels were actually furry parties.
I'm still so confused about that whole source code thing and how it all ties into this, that in itself is way beyond normal internet usage. It really had to have some deep ties to something we are not aware of. Mike was for sure hiding something way worse than the image site he made by faking his death.
that is probably the most unbelievable part to be honest. if you know anything about web development, security or cryptography that is the most blatant and easily finable supposedly "hidden" information. it is literally just a comment in the source code, something you can find by right clicking a web page and choosing inspect element. even dark net drug dealers have x100 more operational security than that. either the work of somebody who is very incompetent or purposefully accessible to the public to generate intrigue.
@@kogn5338 I'm assuming that it was meant to be found, like it was in plain site so people would find it and make these losers out to be way cooler and more competent than they actually were. the actual assassination happening on the date is just coincidence. Idk thats just my guess
I’m not personally convinced that the html comment messages were left there to generate public interest in the goings-on of TOGIH. Everyone involved in this story was 100% aware that creating that site was a personal burden and quite literally a high-risk venture. They didn’t host ads because they *couldn’t* host ads- the website’s content would literally blockade any such opportunity. The site was being targeted to a very specific community and was not being advertised outside of those bounds. It makes no sense to want eyes on the site outside of those that would vehemently want the site to remain online because it would be the site’s undoing. These people were into some pretty fucked up shit. I wonder if it was an extension of the roleplaying he did on Reddit. He was so dedicated to this military persona and had the time to back it up with some research. The reason I feel this way is specifically because of the TI DMCA comments- he either left that there for himself or there *was* some community, that was interacting with his web ventures in a way we don’t have a history for because it wasn’t public. There is zero chance it was tied to an assassination, though.
What's always weird to me is the hitman/mercenary hinting and that assassination that correlated perfectly with coded messages on the LCQP site. If it was always just image hosting, why was that included within?
@@redhotweezer And I wonder that if they're supposedly so "tech-savvy", why would they post those messages unencrypted? Wasn't it relatively easy to discover? Jeez, and if Nexpo can uncover it, who to say that government agencies can't? And was "Dutch Milo" an "odd jobs" contractor after all, or just a sophisticated con artist? I felt that it went on for too long to just be a normal con job, and the smuggling ring do make some sense. However, my question still stands.
Milo constantly stating his age and his odd past are red flags. In my opinion i think he was some middle aged man who might have been in the army ay some point possibly but was definitely someone that enjoyed reading about the wars and would talk about it any time he could to give himself credibility. His age, i think he stated it multiple times to cover up his tracks of who he really was. He was into CP so it would make sense. Seems like these people wanted to be a part of something more than they were, so they ended up creating this narrative for themselves to be seen as important individuals, when really they were just low life child predators.
UA-cam auto closed captions now too in real time for most videos along with there being a full transcript thats available for videos that have been released after it was implemented
Deep dives into these strange old corners of the internet are always my favorite. The internet was such a wild west for so long that it feels like there's all sorts of mysteries to uncover from all over the world. I love it.
@@doubtful_seer At least you were old enough to actually experience the old web😭I was like 6 so the most I remember is my mom trying to figure out how to create a Webkinz account and failing
It was so obviously wanting to be like a rugged old war veteran in a movie but it doesn’t translate over reddit like they even wrote words incorrectly to try to emulate the accent…. That was painful to read.
Within the first portion of Milo Is Missing, I was very much reminded of Mark Z Danielewski's book "The House of Leaves". It felt so familiar. Ill have to pick up the book again.
One thing I always wondered about this mystery is why professional mercenaries would hide messages in HTML comments that are publicly viewable. I mean yes, it's unlikely someone would discover it, but it's just out there in plain sight. Wouldn't it make more sense to use encryption? If they can get fake passports and all that stuff, why can't they figure out how to do secure communication?
Let alone on the main domain which otherwise display a blank page... like who tf would do that. I could think of 10 other ways to make theese messages more hidden
@@marlonb1852 If it was a hoax, it's likely that the user who told people about viewing the source was in on it or may even be the same guy. I checked the original thread where the find was revealed. The OP's account is deleted but in the wayback machine the user is Zaasakokwaan. I checked his profile and I didn't find anything noteworthy about his typing style or hobbies. I don't have enough interest in the case to do a deep dive but it might be worth consideration.
Videos like this always remind me that the internet is HUGE and so weird, like my little corner of search history with old video games I played as a child and chat rooms I was active in every day for years WILL NEVER compare to the absolute rabbit hole this video was. Like, shit was really going down on the internet and the LCQP was just a small part of it!!! like woah!! amazing video, as always!!
@@David-cy2lj hey man have you ever tried putting a belt loop around your neck, tying it to your doorknob then sitting down? It's really cool you can see god
We all know about LCQP, but when it’s Nexpo, we find out we did not in fact know everything. The lengths Nexpo goes to, to give us the ACTUAL full story, are absolutely incredible
IMO nexpo had it correct from the very beginning and other than the last 30 seconds or so of the hour long video, he may have created something stating a "belief" then going back on it but, as a bullshitter myself, we recognize our own. More so when we attuned to a potential liar-involved mystery. As for the guy killed in Dubai, who knows and who cares. As said in the film " casino" someone's always listening or watching or yea. So if people are on some belief you whacked God knows who over God knows what then DON'T bring down the entire shit showering shenanigans by running your mouth about the TONS of money your making over here that's not broken at all but running like a fucking Swiss watch on Hitler's fucking trains! But I digress, whoever attempted to draw attention "away" from those pervs on that old guys stupid fucking site by drawing back the exact same attention for all REDDIT to see perfectly on their very public protected site? Well done in "cleaning" your "secret" hack attack. Now how do you plan on NOT cleaning your obvious confession while pretending to do one thing while not really doing anything while still drawing attention? Wow that's alot of whiles. We may still be here another while
@@FallenAngel7538 some people don’t, which means the video was a cool lil learning experience, which makes it even better seeing as you get a lot more information from this video than many others
I wish working in your 70's and 80's was extraordinary. Unfortunately the state I live in is very expensive and I work with multiple people in their late 70's and early 80's. They tried retiring and couldn't because they couldn't afford to live retired. I feel bad for them
Nexpo videos have such a calm and eerie vibe, while watching I always feel both comforted and a bit unsettled at the same time, the way nexpo sets the tone is immaculate
I know a lot of people think Lake City Quiet pills was a hoax, but honestly I just really wish it was real. It’s such an interesting mystery, to think that a hidden chat room for assianations being hidden inside of a disgusting website filled with some of the worst content on the internet is just so compelling to me, despite its overly disturbing nature.
@@ommitedommited154 plus why would you advertise a hitman chatroom on a nonce subreddit, it's probably the early 2000s version of cp sharing discord servers.
@@ommitedommited154 yeah, I thought the theory was going to be something to do with human trafficking, that assassination plot was a weird twist. It's pretty flimsy if you ask me.
So let me get this straight. A man born in the 1930's, joining the army at the age of 14, has done some questionable acts such as trying to strangle someone with a piano wire, was still alive and kicking, not only working in IT at the age of 79 but also being an active reddit user, making Animaniacs references in his comments. Yeah, totally not fake.
The thing for me though is it goes sooo far back. 1999?! Its weird to me that the whole lore of it all was so established back then, while the 'inciting incident' was so recent and complicated. Which also took place in a disturbing subreddit people arent exactly going to share with their friends. Like for an ARG, this is incredibly well done. Its almost implausibly well constructed and patiently executed.
I agree with you but I have met some people in their 70s on the Internet but it's mostly UA-cam which is very believable, I've Also seen a 55 year old UA-camr (Atomic Shrimp) who used to work at IT but quit because his UA-cam videos (he makes variety content) got really popular, honestly a 50 year old still working at IT is much more believe then someone who's nearly 80 still working at IT, also I do believe it's possible that a 50 year old (Milo was "50" during the 1990s) watched animaniacs when it aired and loved it but it's highly unlikely, it's much more believable if he made refrences to some cartoon made in the 30s instead (I've seen some 50 year olds on UA-cam, Twitter, etc make refrences to shows made in the 60s which is very plausible as that's what they grew up with) (Once again I am not disagreeing with you, I actually agree with you)
@@TankEngine75 yeah, it's not the singular bits of information, but the sum of them that makes his story unbelieveable. I just found it funny how the redditors seemed to believe his story without an ounce of skepticism.
@@TankEngine75 the issue is that the internet is quite a bit older now than it was in 09. the eternal September began some 30 years ago, so a 50 year old today would have barely been 20 when mass access to the internet first started: a 80 year old in 2009 would have had to have been 60. big difference.
31:48 Rather than the 0 being a typo, maybe the 7 was a typo, and he died at the age of 79 before his 80th birthday. His birthday could have very well been after the 17th and his claims would hold true.
To the best of my knowledge, there's only one mall in Adam's County, PA located in Gettysburg. Some industrious person can easily track down previous property holders on that land and find if there was a "Milo" who ever lived there. The VFW may also be able to provide listings of anyone from that area who served in the mentioned conflicts.
@@kevin8029 Certainly possible but there were only maybe 2-3 farms located in the lots purchased for the mall construction. Even if Milo is a pseudonym, it shouldn't be too hard to track down the families that owned the properties and eliminate anyone who doesn't at least resemble the information given throughout Milo's posting history.
@@LucasAndrowick I really like this idea. People get caught up in investigating the online side of things (even P.I.s too, these days) that simple "boots on the ground" and paper archival searches get forgotten, especially with things unlikely to have been digitized like very old ownership records. I know when I tried to look up my family history of people who were in my area and the places they lived 80% of it wasn’t online, but instead in county archival records. Hell, I even found one person in a random book in my library’s reference section when I wasn’t even looking for that subject specifically, just general information on the area for a university class I had back then.
@@doubtful_seer And the archivists are normally more than happy to have someone requesting the records that they painstakingly keep. I think the only people that regularly use this route, or at least commonly use it, are lawyers when it comes to property disputes and survey discrepancies.
@@LucasAndrowick as someone who was studying to become an archivist/preservationist, I can confirm that it honestly was an unfortunately rare, but nice, day when we had more than one or two people requesting records at the place I was volunteering and interning at. Especially the photographic section where I was focusing most of my time. Larger cities are more active, of course, but still relatively quiet compared to the rest of the library, museum, or county/state offices they may be part of.
I remember hearing this term and then told it meant bullets I didn't know there was such an in depth rabbit hole behind it. As always excellent work my friend.
Wait- so Lake city quiet pills is some sort of slang for a bullet? And is it like a military word? (I went to google it and it just brought up results relating to the “mystery”)
Whew what a video. I sure don't regret supporting your patreon one single bit for getting this amount of high quality content served early. I love me a good old grabbing internet mystery The amount of dedication, work and obvious passion you are pouring into your videos is INSANE and astonishing. I have been a long time watcher and subscriber (changed my UA-cam account at some point) and will forever appreciate the constant and steady quality increase in your content be it your interrogation skills or video edits. Thanks for your content truly. You deserve every single bit of support and deserve your own show
Do we know this dude was actually his age or even in the army? Every message he writes about it smacks of some 20 year old trying to gain edge points on reddit... I'm assuming nobody knows anything about this guy for sure but he seems.... highly concerned with seeming aloof and evil lol
If you watch the whole video, he explains that the real person behind it was just some random creep named “Mike” that was hosting basically CP, and was just hosting it on aliases so he didn’t get caught. As for the reason for the encrypted website messages, no one really knows.
My Mother is 79 years old...and she researches, buys and builds her own PCs....when she wants to update...(she installs the OS/Drivers too)...so it's definitely believable that someone of that age could do it.
@@mlee9118 their point is that tech savvy elderly DO exist and it’s not out of the realm of possibilities, they aren’t saying that grandmas with no tech skill don’t exist.
Beyond the pretty obvious fact that we didn't have a 79yo ringleader of a hitmen network using a morally despicable image share site, it's still interesting to see such a niche of a small online community, wondering what the actual some of these people were up to and what the unsolved details even are. Old Internet (and early Reddit I guess had a similar feeling, just like the first social networks) had a very unique existence. It was the vanguard of tech, yet it was so much primitive compared to today tech that feels way older than 20 years. The volume of content and media produced nowadays would basically be impossible to filter without what the modern social networks do to create your own bubble, but it's something of a loss to me anyway
someone probably already noted this but at 43:33 you showed a seemingly endless email page. these were somewhat common, especially around the time. a site named spampoison has been around since 2003, for example. it just makes spammer's crawled email address lists useless.
I truly believe Nexpo to be one of the greatest UA-camrs in the history of this site. I have never been this interested in mysteries and unsolved events and horrifying, horrific content like Disturbing Things on the Internet and Gemini Home Entertainment. The sheer amount of effort put into these videos have cemented you as my favorite creator of all time. Thank you for diving deep into the Deep Blue and sharing your oxygen tank with us!
As an avid DS enjoyer, The DS1 character select music at the intermission made this video 100million Times better than it already was, thank you for making my lunches much more bearable Nexpo
i always smile when i see "from nexpo with love" at the beginning of the video. You can tell by the phenomenal editing and deep digging Nexpo really wants to give his viewers enjoyable content. we love you too, Nexpo.
I love how Nexpo exposes new and exciting internet mysteries that I, personally, would otherwise never know about. And it’s always done in such a deep and visually appealing way. Both ASMR-like and still very attention keeping. Top quality, my favorite channel
Nexpo is no where near the one exposing and discovering any of this shit lol. Now - you’re thinking of how if it wasn’t for nexpo you’d never find out about any of this shit yet Nexpo only introduces you to like a very small fraction of all these crazy internet mysteries. If you really cared so much about all these internet mysteries you wouldn’t be using Nexpo as your primary source haha
Nexpo can really set a unsettling/creepy mood that really fits perfectly with the videos & subjects of them & their voice complements the mood with how calm, confident & slightly spooky the tone is like a older sibling confidently telling their younger sibling "real life" scary stories just to torture & spook the sh*t out of them at night for full effect.
I remember when this went on, I found his supposed colleagues post and read up on the rabbit hole it had already become like 4-5 weeks after the fact. It was mindboggling to realize someone ypu might casually interract with, IRL or online, may be an assassin.
unlikely as assassins don't really exist, most hit men are drug addicts or desperate people who owe money and its usually there first murder. the idea of the cold sophisticated hit Man is largely a myth
So Mike was a guy that had some computer skills, enough to boast about them and offer his services, and had a penchant for child p*rn, created a bunch of different personas and scattered them all around the internet for years on end, eventually creating the persona of Milo on Reddit until he got tired of his own games and retired, coincidentally creating one of the biggest internet mysteries of all time. Did I get that right? Because I don't think I understood. Someone help, please.
Pretty sure that you've got it in reverse. "Mike" is the persona this group created to eliminate the hounds of the internet on their trail. Looks like they succeeded
This might sound wild, but their "interest" in CP might just be to throw people off. Anyone who came across this persona's interest in CP would probably not think about snooping any further.
@@siddharthvenkatesan7403 exactly. A really unorthodox yet effective way of preventing people from treading any further towards what you don't want them to know.
I don't think I have ever watched a video that goes more deep into a rabbit hole on the internet. its insane, this channel has inspired me to learn more about digital footprints and the horrors of the internet. Since last year I have been watching this channels videos and they never cease to amaze me. Lake city quiet pills.
I’ve been following this mystery since long before any breakthroughs on Mike. God, it’s so weird to see how it’s evolved, and how there’s STILL stuff to figure out. How enduring. Glad to see you cover it.
This is the best video on this subject I’ve seen. Most people stop at the hit man crap. I almost didn’t even watch this bc I thought I knew it already.
The only thing I think that is still a loose end is, if Mike is a one man army pretending to be every other account, then why would he be using that php code in the backend to write secret messages about supposed parties, Milo's death, hotels, expenses etc if he wasn't positive someone was going to see it? Or what exactly the purpose of those messages were or if there is something else still going on in the background.
a lot of people look in source codes for secrets, and all of that does nothing but add credibility to the story that all of them are separate individuals
Yeah I didn’t wanna be rude in the comments but I’m like what did you figure out bro? Just who the guy was or wasn’t? I’m way more interested in finding out why those pictures somehow had something to do with hitman… Cool he did that research but I could care less who the dude was
literally, i like this video but like,,,,,, why the fuck would a guy go throught all this damn trouble and ADD a layer to their online dnd charecter by putting and asessination plot in there lol like i feel that i good just a shiton of background info but no real answer has to why make all this hitman bulshit
i've been saving this in my watch later until my "friday" (which is on sunday because of work) and i'm SO excited to finally get to watch it! you make some of my favorite content on youtube and it's always a treat to see such a long video
Some dude had inspirations of opening their own consultation company. They are super political though so they occasionally peppered the site with their ramblings. It seems like they're a little nuts yet rational enough to function in society. On top of being a little loony, they're also a pedo and wanted to create a space for that stuff. Not wanting to get caught up in legal trouble, they swapped identities and purposefully made it seem multiple people were working at once (maybe they actually shared some accounts with 1 or 2 people, not many imo though) for maintaining the image hosting site (I also don't think the consultation company took off since the website was halted). Maybe they got spooked for some reason, they decided to kill their reddit account mainly used to whine about techy and political stuff while being the main face of the image hosting service. Probably wanted attention and to see if anyone would care so I imagine that's why they made a follow-up post under the alias 2-6 on reddit. It's pretty clear they have a fascination with military stuff--maybe a desire to seem like a "badass" vet?--so they like to fantasize online about being a veteran involved in organized crime doing hits on folks (speculation on my part, he comes off as a vet poser though and makes it seem unrealistic that someone who was involved in organized crime for decades actually posts secret messages in websites' source code 🤦♂). After getting too much attention on their site though they decided to drop it altogether and instead limit themselves to DSF forum/some other image hosting sites. Then after all of this recent close scrutiny by several individuals, some of which are actually competent/intelligent enough to spot BS and put pieces together, they decided to do a wipe of their accounts on DSF. Not like it really matters since it seems pretty clear to me that Nexpo went super hard for this video and knows the real identity of the person; if any law enforcement authority actually wants to take a look at the guy, well, they can always ask Nexpo lol. Long story short, it's your typical degenerate keyboard warrior who ALSO actually knows some tech. They craved attention and the feeling of being special, decided to establish an image-sharing community for "questionable" images, got spooked for some reason (I wonder why...), tried to vanish while still getting their fix of having attention on them (hence the aliases), realized there's too much scrutiny and wanted to vanish for realz this time, and staged (with cooperation from DSF admin) a "hack" of specific accounts being deleted (coincidentally all of the aliases they used over the years). Obviously there is some speculation on my part (motivations mostly), this is what made the most sense to me though.
Something I just noticed literally minutes ago that has me freaking out; the copyright label for the song "Stolas Speaks" from the Helluva Boss soundtrack is listed as "Lake City Quiet Pills." WHAT.
you mean to tell me that an internet group that hosted and shared illegal images involving minors had "military interests" and were located mainly on new jersey? no way... how shocking...
If SomeOrdinaryGamers digs deeper into this, we may have an answer. Barely Sociable, a friend of Nexpo, did a video on this a few months ago. Nexpo, many months later, has finally done his own take on it but dug much deeper. I hope we see Nick Crowley or SOG do a video on this.
@@daoyang223 doubt sog or crowley big fans of both but what more can be found nexpo I think did as much as there can be but would be interesting for sog or crowley to keep the investigation going till theres concrete conclusion like with the world Corp thing..
"Angel 2-6" in the military translates to something like "Commander of Angel Company, Platoon 2" and would be of a "Sergeant" rank. As explained around 38:04 it's a position, not a name. My guess is Milo was likely "Angel 6" (meaning Captain of the "Angel" company). My guess is they started as a bunch of guys from the same platoon in Vietnam spreading into a larger organization.
i had a slightly different theory, but it might not hold water in comparison to yours, but i'd like to know your thoughts on it anyways. angels refers to an altitude in thousands of feet. angel 2-6 could mean an altitude of 26,000, which is the height at which humans cannot survive with supplementary oxygen. one problem is that the military seems to exclusively use the word angels when talking about that, never singular angel, angels. either way, i have been on both sides of this conspiracy, one part of me believes milo was a larper who desperately wanted to sound cool because he lived a pathetic life, the other part finds the assassination too convenient. no one could've accidentally predicted an assassination while just playing around, especially the talk of hotels directly lining up with what happened. all the suspected assassins were from the eu, or at the very least departed from places in the eu towards the location. all the job postings were talking about the eu. i think they were most definitely using code to cover up what they were talking about, i think that code is only known to them, but it's oddly suspicious and lines up too much with what happened. milo's death is super strange though, it's hard for me to believe he died the way he did, and how he did. or that he even died at all. maybe he quit the organization? the will was an off shore bank account he used to pay off his debt? no idea. i don't think you could 'quit' a job like his though, but who knows?
@@devonesq.7533 I get your logic, but I think it's unlikely. To your point, it's always "Angels five" or "Angels two-five" when specifically talking about MSL. Also, that's a term pretty specifically used for fighter pilots, which these operators decidedly were not. there is also the concept of "Guardian Angel" in sniper culture, where the sniper is considered a protector of his brothers in arms. it could come from that. It could 100% be the larper route - especially given the nasty bits of Milo's pedo side. I don't personally buy that the assassination in the hotel was the same as what was being discussed (Israel is well known to be behind the attack, and their OpSec is _way_ better than leaving messages on an open HTML page).
@@Chiberia i've done some more research on the hotel, and comparing the html page communications to that.. i mean it's pretty obvious whoever assassinated that guy had some sort of government funding, they had 2 teams of assassins, two recon teams, and countless surveillance teams. also the assassins never booked the hotel until they 100% sure where their target would be. i'm not entirely certain that it's not linked, but i am certain that none of those guys took part in the actual murder of that man. i think milo is a fraud, or just incredibly stupid, hosting criminal job boards on a site hosting cp is just about the dumbest thing i can think of, especially a site you've been advertising, there's gonna be eyes on it. i think the idea that they were pulling off heists or robberies is a lot more believable, anybody can plan and pull off a robbery, and it's a crime that attracts a lot less attention compared to being a hitman, so it would make sense if they got away with it for a decade or two.
The "Crystal Wind" quote is from a book whose protagonist is called Trent, apparently. Just adding that tidbit. As an aside: 2-6's Reddit posts about Milo's death _do_ sound fake. They read like lines from a boilerplate action movie. Edit: I don't find that last lcqp post on Reddit to be necessarily contradictory to Nexpo's theory. If the theory is that there's someone - let's call him Mike - who's Mike, Milo, 2-6 and Shade, and who's been maintaining these accounts as perhaps a way to hide liability and also sustain an elaborate alternate fantasy life/identity, then creating another account to try and get people to leave the lcqp mystery alone is actually perfectly consistent with the previous pattern of behaviour.
@@lindsaykania106 which would be a pretty good way to cover up the fact that they're the same person. Not saying that they are for certain, but if someone is capable of pulling this whole thing off, they're probably smart enough and dedicated enough to fake different mannerisms for each of their different accounts. Well, either smart enough or crazy enough, maybe a mix of both.
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 Smarts would help with consistency from character to character, but realistically you just need a strong imagination and a passion for creative writing (or like you said, to just be genuinely crazy). Authors manifest different mannerisms and speech patterns for characters constantly while writing a novel, or perhaps roleplaying on an online forum. For me, the weirdest bits are definitely the hidden messages about potential wetwork and overseas missions and such. Adding in those details just in the hopes that someone might get curious and find it is really next level dedication and planning. I'm trying to wrap my mind around why that level of depth would have been necessary for perpetuating his charade, but simultaneously it's the oddest part to me so perhaps that's all it was and it's working perfectly.
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 It's not even really _that good_ of a faked mannerism either tbh. If you notice, literally every single word on the 2-6 post was misspelled. That's the real dead giveaway, it's extremely hammed up past the point where it could just be a regular person's typing style.
“Same thing we do every night, Pinky” This is a HUUGE giveaway….someone born in 1930 is not going to be quoting Pinky and the Brain. On the slight chance they’d be aware of the show at all (via grandkids or something), it wouldn’t have an impact to them at the age of 60+ to be able to both know which specific quotes are relevant and when it’s appropriate to use them.
That's your smoking gun? I'm an immortal beast and have unironically used the terms, "I needs me spinach" Popeye - early century. "I zeee nozzing!" - Hogan's heroes 70's "Same thing we do every night pinky." -90s "You cray cray" 00's "Imma yeet that" 2010's. And countless more. It's okay for an internet sleuth to use this kind of stuff as a hunch but not an end all be all smoking gun.
my grandparents were born in the 20s/30s, had my mum who is currently in her mid-50s. she Loved pinky and the brain, so i could definitely see someone that age knowing the show if they have younger relatives? milo apparently had none though, so unless he was super into cartoons/animation it isnt likely. 2-6 would be about the right age though
None of my grandparents ever saw an episode of it and they had grandchildren. It definitely seems more like someone around my bf's age or a little older larping as an old guy.
Nothing like some Lake City Quiet Pills on a Friday evening 😤
YES ANOTHER NEXPO VIDEO IM ADDICTED
Hey nexpo keep up the good work
Lean lake
Nothing like a nice Friday with a Nexpo upload.
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I love how Milo's stories never really drew much skepticism despite being too cool to be real and, in some cases, physically impossible, yet the story that he'd died suddenly at 79 was what roused everyone's suspicions.
It's not that no one was suspicious, no one really cared.
@@Samdeman90 exactly, its obviously a hoax.
@@sirrealism7300 Especially, when it's coming from someone who moderates a jailbait sub reddit or all things. My guess is that people who knew he was lying just ignored him as some loser creep while others straight up just don't know him.
It is funny, but I totally understand not raising an eyebrow at a user who claims to be a grizzled old vet having outlandish/exaggerated stories to tell any audience he can get his hands on. At the same time, I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow at his death personally, even though it did feel a bit too tidy in hindsight, in the moment I'd have likely just said RIP and moved on (assuming I cared at all, which I likely wouldn't have).
My money is still the same as when I first hear do this on redweb, mercenarys hiding their info on a borderline cp site. If you think about it, it kinda makes sense! If your a normal person, you don't go there. If your a sicko, you don't crack into the code to find the listings. Ether way, they probibly won't get caught posting hits on arms dealers!
I don't think I've ever seen a side of UA-cam grow so beautiful as the internet mystery side has. Like channels like nexpo and barely socialable and lemmino have gone from just explaining a story in decent detail to breaking them wide open with brand new research. It's just been a pleasure to see over the last few years
3 of my absolute favorite channels
bro car review community, maker community, food community, game review community, whatever genre Internet Historian even is... I think the best growth ever though is the archaeology and the satellite archaeology community I've observed that for over a decade now we've learned so much about our past in that time, together. RIP cfrapps we miss you Chuck.
I haven’t heard of Lemmino. Will check him out. My two favorites are Nexpo and my number 1 would probably be Lazy Masquerade. Lazy is more frightening material, however. Like how Nexpo has some freaky shit but leans moreso into the mysterious, Lazy has some mysterious shit that leans more into the downright disturbing. Both channels are brilliant. My only problem with either one is I have no more footage to watch until the newest video comes out, because I got so addicted.
@@cosmosaic8117 LEMMiNO's stuff is top notch. I'd also recommend Quinton Reviews's trilogy on The Decline of the History Channel (insightful and funny) and, depending on what kind of content you're looking for, maybe Ahoy's video on Polybius, blameitonjorge, Calum, Down the Rabbit Hole, Paper Skies, TREY the Explainer, Zepherus, or some of Drachinifel's more dryly humorous videos like "The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron: Voyage of the Damned".
also shout out to that chapter
theres nothing like a good hour long youtube documentary on some disturbing thing that happened ten years ago that you know literally nothing about to lift your spirits
😄
😂 yep
Truuuuuue
ironically this comment aligns with unneccesary rants of someone we learned about in above vid... 🤔
@@6ft_2in_b_a_b_y28 haven’t watched the video yet, is it Nexpo?
Without question, the most disturbing part of this whole thing is seeing "20 years ago" next to "2001"
lmaaaaaoooo
here from 2024, it doesn't get better
😭
Wanna feel old? I was born in 2007.
I’m turning 17 this year :)
@@adriennejohnson9818Welcome to life
I heard someone float the idea that Milo actually stands for military Information Liaison Officer. It's a position referenced in intelligence handbooks. The guy who took over for him has a name that is common military jargon in Britain as well (twosix).
It's interesting that he uses British military slang as well. He mentions that he served in Palestine from 1946-1949. This refers to the British occupation of Mandatory Palestine from Israeli and Arab militia within the province. As far as I know, Americans did not serve or even assist Britain or the opposing forces in Palestine until the Israeli declaration of independence in 1948.
MILOs also served exclusively in Cold War-era Germany in intelligence gathering operations and not in Mandatory Palestine.
Which is strange because he mentions being raised in Pennsylvania and being American. It's seems, if any part of this story is true, it means that this man is not in fact an American, but a Brit.
@@belgebelgravia100 Huh, I didn't know any of that. Definitely fits with the idea that all the players were fabricated and that TwoSix and Milo are the same person.
Damn, this comment needs to get noticed more. This is really interesting and also creepy
bump
It's not necessarily a British thing. In the US military those are callsigns. The first number designates what squad or platoon. The second number is their position. 6 is the officer in charge. 7 would be the highest NCO. It was even mentioned that 2-6 is a position not a specific person. Which checks out
Bro if I was Netflix, HBO Max, Hulu, etc I'd be FALLING OVER MYSELF trying to sign Nexpo to create and produce hour an long docuseries on mysteries exactly like this. If it ain't broke...
right?????
Shhhhhhhhh............!
lol
Deadlines kill creativity
... mmm, that doesent sound like streaming services.. there's no where they could push woke messaging..
I cant believe people held this guy up as a sort of hero all the reddit posts ive seen say they loved this guy and he literaly posted cp what a horrible cess pool reddit is
I remember going on r/askreddit to find some rabbit holes, one of them mentioned the Milo guy so I checked his account and only his latest comment and I didn't think much about it until when I saw the thumbnail of this video so I checked it and I was horrified, I did not know any of the things shown (I did not know what's so special about the Milo guy so thankfully I did not idolize him)
Never heard of this guy before I watched this video. As soon as I heard that he was a mod on the jailbait subreddit, I immediately knew what kind of person he was and I did not like it
It wasn't CP, but still questionable.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v it was but good for you defending a predator
@@austinsavage5962 We know nothing about this guy. Even that could be a front or a lie.
I cannot express how grateful I am that these “chapters” aren’t split into different videos and parts.
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@@Demilich23real person. Look at join date and playlists
@@Demilich23also, no links in profile or videos
I almost skipped this one because it's such an old mystery everyone and their mother has made a video on, but you revealed plenty of new stuff in the second half. Well done!
Same
I’ve never heard of this lol I can’t believe it’s that old.
Me too and isn't this the 2nd one nexpo has done on lake city quiet pills
oh really? i guess i will watch it then..thought this topic got already talked to death
@@nineteeneightynine432 You are thinking of Barely Sociable.
Considering how much of "milo"s online presence was either military stories or jailbait related, I assumed this was going to be a human trafficking story
same lol 💀
I figured it was a pedo who wanted a 'fun' way to obfuscate his real identity.
Eh, those weird 3D models Nexpo found for download caught me as a potentially excellent way traffickers could run a "catalog".
On the surface it looks to be an illegal content sharing group, leaders got spooked and decided to erase their tracks before agencies found out who they were.
@@jonfitzpatrick9942 Very true. And so, so gross
When a youtuber isn't a youtuber, this content is on a different stratosphere. The time and effort that went into this video is insane. Keep it up Nexpo you absolute beast.
The work had already been done. This whole story has been explained in detail several times over the last few years.
@@1EliPrice was jst gonna say that I listen to a podcast with this exact script u can tell he copied it fully
calm down dude
@@1EliPrice exactly haha, Barely Sociable covered this like a year ago in only 30 minutes. Not anything against Nexpo but this is one of the most well known "internet mysteries"
Edit: after finishing the video I admit I was wrong, Nexpo did a lot of independent research and revealed some info I've never heard before this point, so props to him
the man hired a P.I for godsake!!!! legendary status
You know a group is up to some shady shit when they have a member called "Fat Tommy."
Lol
Couldn't be more true. 💀
Ayyyy, yuh babalaboom, don't talk about Fat Tommy like that, hes a made man.
"Yeah the Don told fat tommy and big tony to run the mooks outta Jersey"
Honestly I thought it was code for something else. Like Whiskey Hotel isn't actually a hotel.
Seems like I’m in the minority here who had no idea this shit existed, which is fine by me because this was a wild ride. Fantastic video as always, excellent editing, awesome content, and fully engaging throughout the whole thing. Bravo again Nexpo, if I had the money to spare I’d chuck it all at you
Me too lol
Most of the things Nexpo posts I've never heard before, because I don't really search for internet mysteries beyond the youtubers I follow. It's interesting hearing about these things, specially with the way Nexpo makes his videos. The use of imagery is really well done and his voice is a good one for narrating.
@@luizafrugoli2400 that makes it even better imo
same. i had no idea this was such a huge thing.
Same
Honestly same being piss poor isn't fun
The way he says his age a few times in different threads while talking to people makes it feel like someone’s trying to establish a character. Most old people don’t want to reveal their age online because they feel like they’re taken less seriously. They benefit from the anonymity more than most because they can just be taken for their knowledge and experience. It’s definitely suspicious that a person would state their age more than once.
Well when someone on the internet claims they saw combat in WWII people ARE going to ask
useless comment
I think you're right. Though, he was hosting Crystalwind in 1997 and "Michael A" is 67 so I bet he's still old
Maybe, but honestly if he was the person he claimed to be, I don't think he gave a damn about whether or not others took him seriously.
Damned if you do damned if you dont tbh. When I don’t make my age clear but people see my face, they don’t take me seriously because they think I’m like 19. When I do state my age, suddenly I’m too old for the internet.
Granted users perceived as men likely have a different experience than mine. And when my face isn’t shown and no one knows my age that’s generally when information is taken the most seriously.
I actually knew an 80 year old who is pretty active on forums and such. He's chill, but talks nothing like Milo did; his tone was more grandfatherly and he never got agressive.
Yeah, "Milo" was obviously no where near 79.
@@dreamlandnightmare How so?
Just cause he's polite doesn't mean he ain't a creepy incel
Staying active while you are elderly is important I’ve noticed, all the elderly people I’ve met who work active jobs for a long time since they were younger are way healthier than others I’ve met. Milo is active he was also ex mil and an active soldier of fortune dudes a confirmed piece of shit but he was active and that kept his mind active. Doesn’t justify his actions it just explains why he was so coherent for someone his age despite his….. very offensive proclivities. My grandma and others who I know who worked as clerks or customer service are all severely mentally and physically ill. All of the elderly folks I’ve met,60 year old driver for ups I helped when I was a seasonal driver helper for 3 years(the other 2 years from his recommendation because he thought I was a hard worker unlike other people my age) dude could throw 100 pounds over his shoulder like a feather and had more energy than I did and was fit af(he chugged Mountain Dew and are gummy worms like a monster on breaks like wtf this dudes a monster). I think we can all Scoff at the effect of working out or working hard jobs but I’ve seen the effects of it and it’s honestly awe inspiring at how much it effects your health even if you eat unhealthy working out seems extremely important to human biology.
I had a stroke tryna read this
There's no goddamn way Milo was really who he said he was. Born in 1930 and enlisted in the armed forces at age thirteen, fought in both World War II and the Vietnam War at some of the most famous and historically important battles of the century, but decides to retire from the military and retrain in his mid fifties to become a software engineer? That's already highly suspect. On top of that, he's somehow still employed at nearly eighty years old and yet has the time to converse with people on social media and moderate a subreddit created to host explicit images of underage girls, yeah fucking right. And of course he's a grizzled old war horse who is mean and ornery but has at least one friend in Angel Two Six who conveniently knows about his activities on Reddit and is willing to make an account just to tell everyone on his disgusting child pornography message board that he's passed away. The entire story absolutely reeks of fakery and bullshit. I also don't believe that any of these guys were secretly hitmen for hire or coordinated mercenaries. I believe they really wanted to be, but they were miserable maladjusted child-lovers who only felt comfortable among their own ranks. There's no way these losers were traveling around the world committing high profile assassinations.
I'm with you on this cause $3-$4k per job is shameful...like even that Texan cheerleader's mom was tryin' to pay a livable hit wage 😂
Also, I'd be like totally embarrassed to put "Team lead assassin for the execution of just one guy" on my CV..."Special skills that make me a nightmare for people like you: pillow holder"
@@avamasquerade They were watching too many Liam Neeson movies lol
I think that’s exactly what this is. Just some sad pathetic pedo that spends his time online lying to feed his delusions of grandeur and need for attention
You have no idea pal, there are some sick fkus walking around
I definitely believe that this guy was/is military based on his uh… habits.. but the rest of his lore seems completely made up to me
My first video of Nexpo.
Can't believe we get documentaries like this for FREE on UA-cam nowadays. Great times. Keep up the great work, man. Absolutely loved it.
Oh man you're in for a ride, he has tons more videos similar to this. Cheers!
_Good_
_luck_
Im so jealous, you can watch all his videos for the first time i wish i would do that again
bro you gotta check out his entire channel
Man I wish I could see his videos for the first time again, prepare for days of bingeing lol. Love it, enjoy.
After having watched barely sociable's video on this (his video was great as well), this blew my mind when I saw it was an hour long. I seriously have respect for the amount of time you spend researching about the topics of your videos Nexpo. You found out so much more info on this, even hired private investigators to help, your content is truly amazing.
Both videos are great!! Nexpo and BS are probably my fav channels
Just remember It was one of Barelys first videos!
, I think it would be cool for him to do a re do maybe ?
OJHHHHH i saw barely sociables video and THATS why the Lake City Quiet Pills sounded familar lol
That’s where I’ve heard of this before, thank you!
@@ahomiesalt5634 I believe BS and nexpo are friends. I wouldn’t be surprised if they collaborated to some degree on this
I mean, probably just a coincidence, but the fact that 2-6 felt the need to bring up RoP's cat, not only the reddit death post, but also the HTML post, being given to the neighbor, only to have things later fall into the hands of someone named MadamMeow, seems like something at least worth talking about
Good catch, the name was weird (didn't seemingly sync up much with the others); fits well and I never assumed it was actually a woman...but could easily be a persona connected to the whole exchange.
@@tablescissors Women assassins don't exist? lol
@@d3l3tes00n why not
@@d.m463 They do.
@@d3l3tes00n lmk more reddit secrets
There aren't a lot of youtubers who would actually hire a private investigator to assist them in trying to solve a mystery. You the OG, Mr. Nexpo.
Hired a P.I.? Does he show receipts? Did he confirm that he wasn't just saying that for dramatic effect for the sake of good storytelling? He is a great storyteller and setting the atmosphere in this way would make sense whether he actually used a licensed P.I. (or multiple) or if he just asked his roommate to "investigate" some links...
I'm of the opinion that the nexpo creators are quite literally elite level private investigators themselves, in regards to all things internet... they would be hard pressed to find and also hire a more effective internet investigator. Maybe they just gave themselves a bonus.
I thought that I knew everything there was to know about LCQP. Turns out, I was wrong. I always felt like there was a lot more to this story and every UA-camr that covered this topic merely only scratched the surface. Thanks for the deep dive.
Seriously! I almost was gonna skip it because been there, done that...but wow! This was next level.
Has anybody checked the metadata on any of those images? Can hide all kinds of stuff in photo files
@@bryanrhodes369 Or the source code of those other sites for more messages?
Nexpo figured it out. People thought it was this big elaborate hit team that killed that guy in Dubai when it was just a dirty creep.
I was up all night digging through all the pastebin links, and very few of the uploaded images were still able to be downloaded. Plus, it was open to the public, as well, so increase the needle in haystack. I had a website run a site map on the email contacts list from the crystalwind archive, and if memory serves, it's like 3000 individual pages. That type of text was used alot in at least one of the r/lcqp subs. Around the same time as word was getting around about the page source code, u/godsoldercousin posted a bunch of obfuscated text with the thread titled compromised (I can't remember if it was fashioned the same way or not, but that account is still active to this day). There are more reddit accounts involved, as well that at least pretended to be in the know or whatever. It's crazy that it's even bigger than this hour long video.
Can you imagine how many messed up things or even mysteries are happening right now that we'll only discover years from now. This world is an intriguing place
I feel like at least half of them are going to be ARGs inspired by Nexpo and similar channels
@@mooreanonumbers But just imagine the other half that’s real, this world is truly the most confusing thing known to man.
I think about this a great deal.
That is only counting the ones we do discover. Imagine all the ones we didn't discover
It's fascinating but depressing, isn't it? How much trafficking, murder, and CP is going on at this _very moment?_ All the while people are getting away with it due to knowing people with lots of money or power.
And people wonder why overall trust and real-world socializing of people has gone down since the internet was invented. Hard to trust anyone when you're made aware of how horrible people are in secret - people you might literally pass by on a walk.
I love how a deeper dive into the mystery actually raises more questions than it answers. I was so content with the simple answer of "it's an assassination ring."
I did my own investigation awhile back. One thing you didn’t mention is that many of the archived photos also add extra layers of perplexity, some of which add to the strangeness of the story, given the context.
1. Locations - many of the pictures feature locations from around the world. On the surface, these look like tourist photos. However, the pictures aren’t of famous sites or typical travel features (landscape views, selfies, activities, etc.). Many of them are outside pictures of hotels and nondescript buildings, things that would otherwise be uninteresting to the average tourist.
2. Architecture - some of the pictures are odd, out of place photos of doors and windows, with no context or description. Others are of specific entry points with a particular focus on signs that denote the entry point as being alarmed.
3. The woman - There are several photos posted across different years that feature an Asian woman in various locations around the world. It is the same woman in all the pictures.
He didn't touch on the fact of the website itself at all. Like yes, i understand the connections he made etc etc, but what about the purpose of the website itself, the coded messages and everything else? Why go so far to make it look like some kind of assassin marketplace when you are just going to fake your own death anyway?
Definitely much more to the story than what was mentioned
Further to this; if you read the final line in the bottom post at 38:05 - there is a very dubious line from the LCQP admin noting how everyones"pics, hard work, and memories" were hosted on the site.
_Memories_ is the odd part that stuck out to me here. Hard work could imply the effort of gathering JB image collections, ...but "memories?" - to me this suggests images relating to the jobs were hosted on the site.
Makes sense for a global operation - someone scouts out the location and uploads entry points etc, and those executing whatever mission travel in with increased success rate due to better planning / having appropriate tools etc.
OP I've not seen the pictures you but I would imagine it's all evidence, and, if the places could be tracked down, it may be possible to ask around and find out what strange events happened during the relevant timeline at the locations. This could prove an important piece of the puzzle in confirming or denying the claim that the jobs were "heist/smuggling ops".
Hope you have the pics archived.
@@eightbo I actually do! A few of them anyways. I just took a few of the ones that stood out to me the most, but I remember there were quite a few, and I hadn’t even gone through half the archive.
Edit:
So now I can’t even pull up LCQP on the Wayback Machine. I’m hoping it’s an error on my end
Did someone ever searched the original images for hidden messages?
@@bsgfan1The archive being wiped/disappearing is highly peculiar, especially when taking into account the various accounts on the forum that were also wiped (or ‘hacked’..). If there is more to it than what meets the eye, it would make sense for someone to be scrubbing all of, or as much of, the evidence as possible. Beyond this being suspicious or questionable, it’s also rather disappointing, as I’d been hoping to dig into this mystery a bit further myself. That being said, I’m almost certain others would have complete backups of the data.
Man, after everything that happened involving the events surrounding Lake City Quiet Pills, I'm just glad one thing is made assuredly clear...
thank god Fat Tommy and Stu are okay
😂
Hell yeah I was worried about them two
Godbless
@@cusimusic1202 Gobbles
I wonder how they're doing today
Damn it. Why don't I feel like this is over yet? The most comprehensive dive into this subject, with, at least to me, new information. Yet despite this I feel like this just opened up new wormholes to crawl through
Thats why its so interesting with people because they want to find more about it to find out the truth
Right? There's something about the user icon this "Mike" person used, we need more info on that too.
They were furries in real life who did some perv stuff on Second Life. That explains their interest in 3D model packs. When the image board died they went to a TOR server instead.
Because we only ever found the answer for who hosted the image site. Now explain the coded messages and why the use of LCQP?
I thought barelysociable had gotten all the info there was and that it would remain a mystery forever but goddamn did NEXPO really did into this and gather some really crucial details. That being said, i kind of wish that he mentioned if he tried those encryption keys on the LCQP messages that no one has been able to crack.
The whole Milo death story sounds more like code to me as do his different characters. It reads like a movie script and I have to wonder if things like "gave his old scruffy cat to the little girl next door" is code for something, along with the birth and death dates. The cat thing and even Milo himself are such cliches and it's interesting that they take the time to mention giving "the cat" to the "next door neighbor" twice. Cue spoopy spy music.
this
hotline miami real momen!!!!!!
They all read like a Hollywood concept of a 'gruffy no nonsense bootstraps veteran' than an actual human being lol
@@dylankennedy4539 Youd be suprised sometimes people are just pure cliches
I agree, I like to think that all the 2-6s and Milo are the same person, nevermind the pecuilar grammar style of Angel2-6
Dunno if somebody else already explained it, but I think the 43:30 "Email Contacts" link is a classic spam trap. Basically, the site would be set up so that it'd produce an infinite number of those pages of fake e-mail addresses, so that spambots trawling the web (and unable to notice the text "Don't use these") would endlessly add the fake addresses to their database and crash.
Why this doesn't have more likes? It's really interesting.
that makes a lot of sence now
Does dovetail into the disdain for spammers, too. I thought the list was supposed to be a maze of some sort where something would be hidden in one specific path through all the links, but I think the spam trap approach makes more sense.
Correct
I thought I’d say this but 2-6 is often related to the Marine Corps infantry unit 2nd Battalion 6th Marine regiment. Angel is usually a short nickname for Guardian Angel which is common term associated with DM “designated marksman” or snipers. At the end of your video there was a guy who said commented to Angel 2-6 saying Semper Fi which is the Marine Corps motto
Oh shit, that seems pretty important to know…
that make sense...
So some crazy marine hang around online with weird shit going on possibly?
Also, "have a good one" is specifically something Delta Force operatives used to say as a catchphrase when they split for an op....
@Chris Todd, would "Dutch" Milo (who was done proud) be significant?
I love nexpo's content, I love it so much
hell yea!
It's pretty unique so yeah I agree with you
kade dev, a nexpo enthusiast? seems legit
But does nexpos content love you back?
Then why don't you go mad searching for a way to legally marry it and ironically become a part of it...?
"Milo isn't a very good person" is being way, *WAY* too nice
“Taboo interests” is also WAY too nice
@@bloohazze Do you think he faked his death to avoid police ?
I think nexpo has mentioned before that he has to “dance around” certain words to avoid lawsuits or the video being taken down
@@bloohazze Is that what they call it nowadays
@@nervesinapattern7261 He may have been entirely fake and so turning into a different person to find the body of 'Milo' would be no more difficult. Especially since nobody bothered to sleuth it in real life like 4chan does at the drop of a hat nowadays.
Most likely not an ARG either. Probably just a bunch of online war/militia nerds roleplaying. Even if they were actually criminals of some sort they could have been massively gussying up their resumes for potential clients.
It's possible the "Don't use these Email Contacts" link could be an anti-scraper tool.
Back in the day some web developers (myself included) would add a page that contained "garbage" addresses in hopes it would flood web scrapers with useless information.
I can't say for sure that's the case here, but figured I'd share this anyway.
That's definitely the case!
Milo had great disdain for spam and constantly complained about it on reddit so it's on brand
Lets appretiate that this guy checked years of internet site history, reddit posts, went through fucking child phodn sites and even hired fucking private investigators to provide us with this one hour of content. Literally as high effort as it gets.
He spent money on PI's too. Crazy dedication. Its why I watch his stuff
AND he edited it
bro deserves at least 5mil views
I didn’t watch the full video yet but did he really?!
god he needs to get something out of it like a few million views
this story has been done many times already Im sure it wasnt hard to find the information
My initial thought is that Lake City Quiet Pills would be a pretty blatant reference to bullets. Lake City is a massive gov-owned ammo plant in the US, they make a lot of the military's ammo. If you ever look at the headstamp on a cartridge and see a big ol' LC, it's from the Lake City plant.
Edit: Nevermind, you got it. This is why you watch the whole video first, kids.
I got the reference immediately, when I first got into guns I thought milspec was the coolest. I thought I was cool because was shooting Lake City 5.56😂😂. I almost posted something until I scrolled down and saw your post lol.
Lmfao
Love the edit lol I do that all the time
Big "ERMMMMM ACKSHULLY" vibes
@@dissraps big nobody asked vibes
I know exactly what the page at 43:28 is supposed to be! I've unfortunately forgotten who originally made this and what it was called (this was in late 1990s), but basically, someone wrote a program that you could deploy on your own web page that would generate random email addresses and links that would lead to the same page. The idea was that bots that harvested email addresses for spammers would have their database flooded with bogus addresses, and get caught in a loop of fetching that stuff over and over. That's why the link to the page says "Don't use these email contacts"; the thing is supposed to be a bait for the bots and not exactly intended for human readers. As said, I don't remember who originally made the thing, but it was open source and it was widely discussed among the anti-spam community at the time.
bump so people can see this.
That's a great idea
oh wow that actually makes sense lmao
I remember reading about thos... I'm not sure but maybe it was in a Issue of 2600 I say that because it was the only paper magazine I would ever read. Good catch bro.
Seems to connect with Milo's hate of spammers as well
My current working theory: Mike was a technical writer who was down on his luck yet ambitious. He originally started the Crystal Wind page to try and create a consulting firm, but in the end it amounted to nothing. Parallel to this, he began getting involved with the wrong crowd, a CP ring that was highly skilled when it came to technical stuff (that line of code could’ve very well just been a project one of them had been showing off). They would even meet up, forming a sort of close-knit community (probably all the same locale too, since it operated solely from New Jersey and they seemed to expect everyone to know why the site would be down due to storms).
Along the way, Mike created a couple of online personas that could be seen on the well-tread pages of the Internet, where he indulged in his fetish more openly and even hosted his own image sharing website to the point he got tired (or paranoid) of the mainstream and decided to start killing his more-public personas one by one to separate himself from them and go back into obscurity. Eventually, probably because he finally wanted to get his life back on track or something much darker (maybe he even got a job which explains how he can pay for the site), he disappeared entirely and the main HQ for his former pornography crew to gather kept getting traded to new admins who couldn’t keep it running (and, considering that most of them just up and ran, probably had to escape the country or were arrested). DSF would eventually be pretty much the only place left, only for the 2017 event to take place. My guess is that Mike changed his ways and came back with a vengeance, tearing everything apart for his former comrades, but that probably is too optimistic. Another guess could be that someone realized they could get got by authorities and attempted to cover their tracks.
Damn, and I thought he was just some wannabe military nerd that pretty much wrote some fanfiction
Im on this theory, still alot of the shit doesn't add up, like wtf is up with the whole Persona, the whole hidden Hitman stuff on the site before people really noticed. I mean why would you do that kind of stuff, maybe to set people off but Idk, it just seems weird. It really seems more hoax then reality. But some Cp was probably involved.
I think he was a fed.
@@IndicatedGoodLife I know I’m late but like it’s weird bro right? Like what if he was just doing it for himself, I can’t believe he thought so many people would look into it that deep, Idk it’s just so weird
Nah, it was all just a hoax by a troll. I know everyone wants to believe in huge conspiratorial rings but real life is usually simpler. Barely Sociable confirmed it was just a hoax all along
Everything just feels right when Nexpo uploads, especially on a friday.
Facts
FACTS
@neptune woah your spring break is late my guy
Yeah but it better be good and not some reup load bs. His last videos have been weak asf. And this one has already been dove into by Barely Sociable 2 years ago so let’s see.
Fer sher
Jesus, how long does he take investigating?! Not even me for my college degree thesis lmao.
It's truly amazing how much effort this man puts into these videos.
There's A+ and then there's "You're way too damn good for this shit, you should be the professor!" kind of A+.
lol all jokes aside, the amount of work he puts in to try and figure out who this catfish account is is commendable and entertaining. I can't wait for more
I must admit, I was a bit annoyed when I first saw this video, because EVERYONE has covered this. (I was introduced by Barely Sociable) But after watching it, you easily have the best, most painstakingly researched version of this mystery, and it's one of your very finest uploads. Well done Ryan
I was skeptical too. It took me about 6 days to actually watch this. I’m just now finally finishing this. Like I swear to god some of these UA-cam’s could be detectives.
Those UA-camrs that have covered this topic only covers it for a few minutes (10 at most) and moves on. This guy goes into every small detail of the topic and made it look interesting. Respect to Nexpo!
ami the only one who hasn't heard about this until now 💀
@@caesthoffe For real wtf, I've been watching these kinds of videos for years and nexpo is the first time I've been exposed to lcqp.
@shiny♡igglybuff♡gaming That's what I thought, but he made what is normally a 10-15 min video into an hour long extremely detailed fantastic video filled with "new" details that you won't find in the other videos. I love Barely Sociable, but Nexpo has him beat on Lake City Quiet Pills lol not to mention the aesthetics are perfect here.
I know this isnt the newest video, I'm catching up. But having been a fan since around like 2017. You're editing and oveall production style has gotten so insanely good. I feel like its so distinct and makes the videos so much more engaging and interesting.
Just really impressed and happy for all you've achieved.
Yo Nexpo have you heard of the indigo mystic? Her story is insane, she started out on UA-cam and her (I think now deleted) videos shows her progression to insanity and I think you'd be able to cover the story beautifully, the best part about it is that the events carried out happened about 2 years ago so it's relatively obscure from what I could tell on youtube
I think nick crowley covered it already
Man i dont know whether to thank you or to curse at you what an awful rabbit hole to go down but god thank you for spreading the word about this horrible situation prayers go out to jessicas daughters and especially the family of the deputy who was killed i cant believe something like this wasnt talked about more
@@austinsavage5962 Do I even want to know what happens in this rabbit hole?
@@justdark863 honestly man its not really much of a spooky mystery rabbit hole and just the rabbit hole of a mother with mental illness having her life taken along with a deputy while her children film and cry from upstairs honestly just a heart breaking situation for everybody and i think the best thing to do would not have too many people get into it and just let her daughters have peace you know how some internet “sleuths” will harass people but if youre curious i would check it out but just under the notion not to harass anyone because its really a horrible situation noone should have to go through
@@justdark863 the indigo mystic was an insane woman that would constantly overspend and overstay her welcome wherever she lived, being unable to afford proper housing for her children and keeping them away from their father. She trained them to record any argument she had or anything so she could blast them on UA-cam, and one day she got into an argument with a police officer I believe, and her kids recorded it as she shot him. I’m probably getting a few details wrong as it’s been a few months since I’ve looked at a video about it
absolutely CRUSHED the edit on this one dude !! the spooky early internet atmosphere, the transitions, the whole vibe, just wOw. honestly one of my favorite uploads of yours to date. keep it up🤙🏼
around 47 days ago, Milo's account had another unintelligible post made which linked to another website. The account might have been hacked but it’s still creepy to think about it.
An interesting little detail is that "MILO" is a military acronym for "Military Intelligence Liaison Officer"
and angels means an altitude in thousands of feet.
angel 2-6 = 26,000 foot altitude
also considered to be the height at which humans can no longer breathe without supplementary oxygen.
"Dutch Milo" would be someone with a Dutch surname; Milo could be his actual first name, a nickname, or the abbreviation, thus he becomes "Dutch Milo" to specify _that_ one.
2-6 is interesting. -6 usually denotes a CO or leader (they're at the six o'clock position in a formation; the novel _RAINBOW Six_ is named after its main character, the CO of Rainbow Team, for instance), while 2 could be a second force: Angel 2-6 sounds like a call sign, A (Angel, Alpha) 2 (second group) 6 (leader).
Another must-watch with fantastic editing. The amount of effort that goes into these videos is inspiring
So I had typed a comment about this probably being a bot because I didn’t recognise the channel, and then I saw you posted this 4 days ago.
@@JDT-Loadsamoney must have been privately available for some people.
Verified user = free likes
Appreciate this my friend :)
Ok but how did you post this 4 days ago
I was first introduced to this topic through Barely Sociable, and was immediately hooked. Thank you for such an in depth and fascinating look into this mystery! Keep up the great work!
I was wondering why this topic was so familiar! I forgot that I watched Barely Sociable’s vid
Me too!
I was feeling some MAJOR deja vu when I saw this vid and was worried I was going insane when I saw the upload time. Thank you for reminding me that I’m (somewhat) mentally stable.
This is vladimir Putin, President of Russia
Some people kidnapped me and put my duplicate in Russia. I didn't start the war, he did. I escaped and now hiding in your country. Can you send me 3000rs so I can go back to Russia and stop this war. This is real me.
Yep, I was wondering what was the deal bc I had seen something from ‘BarelySociable’ but well done nonetheless. This stuff blows my mind.
The most blatant piece of evidence that this site isn't a front for a group of paramilitary assassins is that I don't think an operation like that would get off the ground if the guy running it can't see the very obvious problem with tying an image hosting service for borderline-cp to the same URL. That's like hiding records of tax evasion in the stolen car you keep on your front lawn...
I always figured his 'name' being 'Milo' was itself a sort of joke and cover, a reference to First Lieutenant Milo Minderbinder from Catch-22, who was also an amoral business man that skirted the various realities of the modern world with his unflappable thinking.
Separately if you've never read Catch-22 dear lord do so, it's sincerely in the running for the most amusing book ever written. It's like a War Novel co-written by Lewis Carroll & Douglas Adams.
Catch-22 is hilarious 👍🏼
ahh. i love catch-22 so much.
but, yes, i did indeed notice many similarities throughout the lcqp explanation and catch-22- granted, i haven't read the latter since 4th grade so my memory is a little hazy lol
but yeah it really does seem like the reference to six and twos is a very common thread within the lcqp story, and, of course, just the title of the book itself. i cant recall if 6 had any significance in the story of catch-22 so i'll definitely have to reread it in the next couple days and come back to this video!
You had me a Lewis Carroll
One wonders if this all wasn't an ARG of some kind....
That’s a good way of putting it. Though the accidental-murder-then-suicide of two main characters was intense. Part of the point of the book, though, WAS the intensity of war
the biggest thing that gives the guy away as not actually 79 y/o is his lack of double spacing between sentences. he would have learned how to type on a typewriter and, without a doubt, would double space between a period and the start of a sentence. i’m only 25 and it’s how my mom taught me to type on a computer bc it’s how she learned on a typewriter.
His military background and whatever work he was still doing as a liaison would have meant he was trained in modern tech like the internet. This was a giant thing in intelligence in the 90s and even the old guys were tech literate.
He would have been basically trained on how to use the internet as it grew, on an internet well above what civilians had, well into his 40s when he retired and went into contract work.
@@Luminousreign I work with guys in my IT firm who have been using the internet for 30 years, and they still double space.
What an irrelevant observation. His lack of double spacing doesn't give away anything, i've seen plenty of old people typing without double spaces.
He said he'd been working with computers since the 80s though. He would have probably adapted in that time.
Angel 26 sounds like the callsign for a military flight. I worked in airfield management in the Air Force so have heard pretty much every callsign and that's the first thing I think of when I hear it.
Edit -also, JP-4 is jet fuel used by the Air Force until the mid 90s.
These people were just Second Life life LARPers who shared porn on the internet. They probably used callsigns because they heard them in video games. All the secret text about hotels were actually furry parties.
Snd those calls are?
I'm still so confused about that whole source code thing and how it all ties into this, that in itself is way beyond normal internet usage. It really had to have some deep ties to something we are not aware of. Mike was for sure hiding something way worse than the image site he made by faking his death.
Hi wahoo
Yeah I really wanted more detail on the party and assassination, I feel like it was almost glossed over being the most interesting part of it
that is probably the most unbelievable part to be honest. if you know anything about web development, security or cryptography that is the most blatant and easily finable supposedly "hidden" information. it is literally just a comment in the source code, something you can find by right clicking a web page and choosing inspect element. even dark net drug dealers have x100 more operational security than that. either the work of somebody who is very incompetent or purposefully accessible to the public to generate intrigue.
@@kogn5338 I'm assuming that it was meant to be found, like it was in plain site so people would find it and make these losers out to be way cooler and more competent than they actually were. the actual assassination happening on the date is just coincidence. Idk thats just my guess
I’m not personally convinced that the html comment messages were left there to generate public interest in the goings-on of TOGIH. Everyone involved in this story was 100% aware that creating that site was a personal burden and quite literally a high-risk venture. They didn’t host ads because they *couldn’t* host ads- the website’s content would literally blockade any such opportunity. The site was being targeted to a very specific community and was not being advertised outside of those bounds. It makes no sense to want eyes on the site outside of those that would vehemently want the site to remain online because it would be the site’s undoing. These people were into some pretty fucked up shit.
I wonder if it was an extension of the roleplaying he did on Reddit. He was so dedicated to this military persona and had the time to back it up with some research. The reason I feel this way is specifically because of the TI DMCA comments- he either left that there for himself or there *was* some community, that was interacting with his web ventures in a way we don’t have a history for because it wasn’t public.
There is zero chance it was tied to an assassination, though.
Dude, I would not feel safe researching this stuff.
i hardly feel safe *learning* any of this, i can only imagine researching it firsthand
The CIA probably got him on a list 😂
@@jimmihall1347 haha considering what nexpo does hes probably already on several lists
Maybe you should subscribe to a certain VPN brand that often sponsors youtubers
@@andhy5114 Nord? and have all you data sold off. Yeah great. lool
What's always weird to me is the hitman/mercenary hinting and that assassination that correlated perfectly with coded messages on the LCQP site. If it was always just image hosting, why was that included within?
Yeah I’m still a little confused on that. Is it certain that LCQP was used as a hit man site or was that just speculation from Nexpo and others?
@@redhotweezer And I wonder that if they're supposedly so "tech-savvy", why would they post those messages unencrypted? Wasn't it relatively easy to discover?
Jeez, and if Nexpo can uncover it, who to say that government agencies can't? And was "Dutch Milo" an "odd jobs" contractor after all, or just a sophisticated con artist? I felt that it went on for too long to just be a normal con job, and the smuggling ring do make some sense. However, my question still stands.
@@redhotweezer its not speculation. A lot of proof to back it up. I feel like "Milo" was more then just one person.
probably just an ARG
@@WowPlusWow a very old one at that
As someone who has been having problems with hearing, I am so thankful for your comprehensive subtitles. Thank you!!!!!
Milo constantly stating his age and his odd past are red flags. In my opinion i think he was some middle aged man who might have been in the army ay some point possibly but was definitely someone that enjoyed reading about the wars and would talk about it any time he could to give himself credibility. His age, i think he stated it multiple times to cover up his tracks of who he really was. He was into CP so it would make sense.
Seems like these people wanted to be a part of something more than they were, so they ended up creating this narrative for themselves to be seen as important individuals, when really they were just low life child predators.
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the fact that nexpo adds captions is the best part. making the videos accessible is incredible
UA-cam auto closed captions now too in real time for most videos along with there being a full transcript thats available for videos that have been released after it was implemented
@@skraminc and that’s been super helpful! However it’s not always accurate and it’s always better to have creator’s captions
@@maxwell.mp4 i see
Hey why is no one here talking about the source code messages from the lake city forum bruh what
Nexpo is goated no question
Deep dives into these strange old corners of the internet are always my favorite. The internet was such a wild west for so long that it feels like there's all sorts of mysteries to uncover from all over the world. I love it.
I miss the Wild West/Web 1.0 days 😭
@@doubtful_seer At least you were old enough to actually experience the old web😭I was like 6 so the most I remember is my mom trying to figure out how to create a Webkinz account and failing
@ 14:17 "goddam. I didn't no (sic) so many people could like him that didn't sling a gun with him."
It was so obviously wanting to be like a rugged old war veteran in a movie but it doesn’t translate over reddit like they even wrote words incorrectly to try to emulate the accent…. That was painful to read.
So fake
Within the first portion of Milo Is Missing, I was very much reminded of Mark Z Danielewski's book "The House of Leaves". It felt so familiar. Ill have to pick up the book again.
One thing I always wondered about this mystery is why professional mercenaries would hide messages in HTML comments that are publicly viewable. I mean yes, it's unlikely someone would discover it, but it's just out there in plain sight. Wouldn't it make more sense to use encryption? If they can get fake passports and all that stuff, why can't they figure out how to do secure communication?
Let alone on the main domain which otherwise display a blank page... like who tf would do that.
I could think of 10 other ways to make theese messages more hidden
Good point.
@@marlonb1852 If it was a hoax, it's likely that the user who told people about viewing the source was in on it or may even be the same guy. I checked the original thread where the find was revealed. The OP's account is deleted but in the wayback machine the user is Zaasakokwaan. I checked his profile and I didn't find anything noteworthy about his typing style or hobbies. I don't have enough interest in the case to do a deep dive but it might be worth consideration.
@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3 interesting...
it'd way easier to do all of this over literally any end-to-end encryption service, which aren't even that difficult to make.
Videos like this always remind me that the internet is HUGE and so weird, like my little corner of search history with old video games I played as a child and chat rooms I was active in every day for years WILL NEVER compare to the absolute rabbit hole this video was. Like, shit was really going down on the internet and the LCQP was just a small part of it!!! like woah!! amazing video, as always!!
Can you lmk like whar?
@@David-cy2lj hey man have you ever tried putting a belt loop around your neck, tying it to your doorknob then sitting down? It's really cool you can see god
We all know about LCQP, but when it’s Nexpo, we find out we did not in fact know everything. The lengths Nexpo goes to, to give us the ACTUAL full story, are absolutely incredible
IMO nexpo had it correct from the very beginning and other than the last 30 seconds or so of the hour long video, he may have created something stating a "belief" then going back on it but, as a bullshitter myself, we recognize our own. More so when we attuned to a potential liar-involved mystery.
As for the guy killed in Dubai, who knows and who cares. As said in the film " casino" someone's always listening or watching or yea. So if people are on some belief you whacked God knows who over God knows what then DON'T bring down the entire shit showering shenanigans by running your mouth about the TONS of money your making over here that's not broken at all but running like a fucking Swiss watch on Hitler's fucking trains!
But I digress, whoever attempted to draw attention "away" from those pervs on that old guys stupid fucking site by drawing back the exact same attention for all REDDIT to see perfectly on their very public protected site? Well done in "cleaning" your "secret" hack attack. Now how do you plan on NOT cleaning your obvious confession while pretending to do one thing while not really doing anything while still drawing attention?
Wow that's alot of whiles. We may still be here another while
I didn't know about it lol
@@FallenAngel7538 some people don’t, which means the video was a cool lil learning experience, which makes it even better seeing as you get a lot more information from this video than many others
Add LemMino to your list
@@Kenny5867 LemMino and Nexpo are the peak documentary-esque channels.
I wish working in your 70's and 80's was extraordinary. Unfortunately the state I live in is very expensive and I work with multiple people in their late 70's and early 80's. They tried retiring and couldn't because they couldn't afford to live retired. I feel bad for them
Nexpo videos have such a calm and eerie vibe, while watching I always feel both comforted and a bit unsettled at the same time, the way nexpo sets the tone is immaculate
Such a well pieced documentary. Well edited written and researched. Love the stuff you put out. The effort that goes into these really really shows.
I know a lot of people think Lake City Quiet pills was a hoax, but honestly I just really wish it was real. It’s such an interesting mystery, to think that a hidden chat room for assianations being hidden inside of a disgusting website filled with some of the worst content on the internet is just so compelling to me, despite its overly disturbing nature.
Why would you hide your crimes within other crimes though? If anything I think it has more to do with cp production than a hit man chatroom.
@@ommitedommited154 plus why would you advertise a hitman chatroom on a nonce subreddit, it's probably the early 2000s version of cp sharing discord servers.
@@ommitedommited154 yeah, I thought the theory was going to be something to do with human trafficking, that assassination plot was a weird twist. It's pretty flimsy if you ask me.
@@hannahfanning9585 Yeah, this seems more of a pedo ring than anything else
@@hannahfanning9585 They have a strong over lap in skill sets of you think about it
The effort put into those videos is something i can't even imagine. Definitely worth the wait
So let me get this straight. A man born in the 1930's, joining the army at the age of 14, has done some questionable acts such as trying to strangle someone with a piano wire, was still alive and kicking, not only working in IT at the age of 79 but also being an active reddit user, making Animaniacs references in his comments. Yeah, totally not fake.
The thing for me though is it goes sooo far back. 1999?! Its weird to me that the whole lore of it all was so established back then, while the 'inciting incident' was so recent and complicated. Which also took place in a disturbing subreddit people arent exactly going to share with their friends.
Like for an ARG, this is incredibly well done. Its almost implausibly well constructed and patiently executed.
I agree with you but I have met some people in their 70s on the Internet but it's mostly UA-cam which is very believable, I've Also seen a 55 year old UA-camr (Atomic Shrimp) who used to work at IT but quit because his UA-cam videos (he makes variety content) got really popular, honestly a 50 year old still working at IT is much more believe then someone who's nearly 80 still working at IT, also I do believe it's possible that a 50 year old (Milo was "50" during the 1990s) watched animaniacs when it aired and loved it but it's highly unlikely, it's much more believable if he made refrences to some cartoon made in the 30s instead (I've seen some 50 year olds on UA-cam, Twitter, etc make refrences to shows made in the 60s which is very plausible as that's what they grew up with)
(Once again I am not disagreeing with you, I actually agree with you)
@@TankEngine75 yeah, it's not the singular bits of information, but the sum of them that makes his story unbelieveable. I just found it funny how the redditors seemed to believe his story without an ounce of skepticism.
@@TankEngine75 the issue is that the internet is quite a bit older now than it was in 09. the eternal September began some 30 years ago, so a 50 year old today would have barely been 20 when mass access to the internet first started: a 80 year old in 2009 would have had to have been 60. big difference.
@@AS-ip4xf I know, the UA-camr I was talking about said that he had been on the internet since the early days
31:48 Rather than the 0 being a typo, maybe the 7 was a typo, and he died at the age of 79 before his 80th birthday. His birthday could have very well been after the 17th and his claims would hold true.
That's especially possible if he was commenting quickly/while distracted and in the middle of deciding between commenting "79" or "80 in July"
But his DOB is in January on the actual site
His birthday is in January though, so it is still very wrong.
@@Kyle_Duffy oh for sure the dude is BSing, that much is clear, this just seemed like a weird point Nexpo was pursuing
if you change all said numbers in a certain way and add them you get 23 times 23... :l
This by far is one of my favorite deep dives from Nexpo it’s super entertaining and I keep coming back to rewatch it. Amazing job.
To the best of my knowledge, there's only one mall in Adam's County, PA located in Gettysburg. Some industrious person can easily track down previous property holders on that land and find if there was a "Milo" who ever lived there. The VFW may also be able to provide listings of anyone from that area who served in the mentioned conflicts.
Milo might be a nickname.
@@kevin8029 Certainly possible but there were only maybe 2-3 farms located in the lots purchased for the mall construction. Even if Milo is a pseudonym, it shouldn't be too hard to track down the families that owned the properties and eliminate anyone who doesn't at least resemble the information given throughout Milo's posting history.
@@LucasAndrowick I really like this idea. People get caught up in investigating the online side of things (even P.I.s too, these days) that simple "boots on the ground" and paper archival searches get forgotten, especially with things unlikely to have been digitized like very old ownership records. I know when I tried to look up my family history of people who were in my area and the places they lived 80% of it wasn’t online, but instead in county archival records. Hell, I even found one person in a random book in my library’s reference section when I wasn’t even looking for that subject specifically, just general information on the area for a university class I had back then.
@@doubtful_seer And the archivists are normally more than happy to have someone requesting the records that they painstakingly keep. I think the only people that regularly use this route, or at least commonly use it, are lawyers when it comes to property disputes and survey discrepancies.
@@LucasAndrowick as someone who was studying to become an archivist/preservationist, I can confirm that it honestly was an unfortunately rare, but nice, day when we had more than one or two people requesting records at the place I was volunteering and interning at. Especially the photographic section where I was focusing most of my time. Larger cities are more active, of course, but still relatively quiet compared to the rest of the library, museum, or county/state offices they may be part of.
I remember hearing this term and then told it meant bullets I didn't know there was such an in depth rabbit hole behind it. As always excellent work my friend.
Wait- so Lake city quiet pills is some sort of slang for a bullet? And is it like a military word? (I went to google it and it just brought up results relating to the “mystery”)
@@stumpyjoe3507 there is an ammo store called lake city ammo or something like that
@@stumpyjoe3507 ''quiet pill'' too
bullet look like a pill, that makes you quiet forever
Lake city is a company that produces/produced bullets for the military.
Whew what a video. I sure don't regret supporting your patreon one single bit for getting this amount of high quality content served early.
I love me a good old grabbing internet mystery
The amount of dedication, work and obvious passion you are pouring into your videos is INSANE and astonishing. I have been a long time watcher and subscriber (changed my UA-cam account at some point) and will forever appreciate the constant and steady quality increase in your content be it your interrogation skills or video edits.
Thanks for your content truly. You deserve every single bit of support and deserve your own show
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This video has to be one of the best I’ve ever seen in years of UA-cam, I keep coming back to watch it from start to finish. Absolutely mesmerising.
Do we know this dude was actually his age or even in the army? Every message he writes about it smacks of some 20 year old trying to gain edge points on reddit... I'm assuming nobody knows anything about this guy for sure but he seems.... highly concerned with seeming aloof and evil lol
@Oliver's 50th Account nice! Thank u, I didn’t actually get that far into the video, just posted my first instinct lol
That's exactly what I thought. No way an actual 80-year old would be THIS invested/active on Reddit.
@@Misspol222 How so?
@@aurum316 in late 2000s too. i dont think we have to explain why, it answers itself.
If you watch the whole video, he explains that the real person behind it was just some random creep named “Mike” that was hosting basically CP, and was just hosting it on aliases so he didn’t get caught.
As for the reason for the encrypted website messages, no one really knows.
My Mother is 79 years old...and she researches, buys and builds her own PCs....when she wants to update...(she installs the OS/Drivers too)...so it's definitely believable that someone of that age could do it.
your mom is a badass
Okay but not EVERY 79 year old is like that. My grandmother is in that age range and she can barely use a smartphone, you know?
@@mlee9118 their point is that tech savvy elderly DO exist and it’s not out of the realm of possibilities, they aren’t saying that grandmas with no tech skill don’t exist.
@@cxncelled8752 completely understood. I’m saying they’re both equally likely and equally unlikely, we really don’t know
In reality the guy was just some pervert who hosted furry parties.
Beyond the pretty obvious fact that we didn't have a 79yo ringleader of a hitmen network using a morally despicable image share site, it's still interesting to see such a niche of a small online community, wondering what the actual some of these people were up to and what the unsolved details even are.
Old Internet (and early Reddit I guess had a similar feeling, just like the first social networks) had a very unique existence.
It was the vanguard of tech, yet it was so much primitive compared to today tech that feels way older than 20 years.
The volume of content and media produced nowadays would basically be impossible to filter without what the modern social networks do to create your own bubble, but it's something of a loss to me anyway
So excited to see an update to the lake city mystery. As always GREAT research and presentation/vibe in the video.
Keep it up!
someone probably already noted this but at 43:33 you showed a seemingly endless email page. these were somewhat common, especially around the time. a site named spampoison has been around since 2003, for example. it just makes spammer's crawled email address lists useless.
I truly believe Nexpo to be one of the greatest UA-camrs in the history of this site. I have never been this interested in mysteries and unsolved events and horrifying, horrific content like Disturbing Things on the Internet and Gemini Home Entertainment. The sheer amount of effort put into these videos have cemented you as my favorite creator of all time. Thank you for diving deep into the Deep Blue and sharing your oxygen tank with us!
As an avid DS enjoyer, The DS1 character select music at the intermission made this video 100million Times better than it already was, thank you for making my lunches much more bearable Nexpo
i always smile when i see "from nexpo with love" at the beginning of the video. You can tell by the phenomenal editing and deep digging Nexpo really wants to give his viewers enjoyable content. we love you too, Nexpo.
I love how Nexpo exposes new and exciting internet mysteries that I, personally, would otherwise never know about. And it’s always done in such a deep and visually appealing way. Both ASMR-like and still very attention keeping. Top quality, my favorite channel
Nexpo is no where near the one exposing and discovering any of this shit lol.
Now - you’re thinking of how if it wasn’t for nexpo you’d never find out about any of this shit yet Nexpo only introduces you to like a very small fraction of all these crazy internet mysteries.
If you really cared so much about all these internet mysteries you wouldn’t be using Nexpo as your primary source haha
@@dankone3 chill out bro, LCQP is old but nexpo's video is still cool.
@@dankone3 bro wtf
@@dankone3 who shit on your parade?
@@dankone3 you take the internet seriously bud
Nexpo can really set a unsettling/creepy mood that really fits perfectly with the videos & subjects of them & their voice complements the mood with how calm, confident & slightly spooky the tone is like a older sibling confidently telling their younger sibling "real life" scary stories just to torture & spook the sh*t out of them at night for full effect.
Yessss. They could literally read the dictionary and I would get the chills.
I remember when this went on, I found his supposed colleagues post and read up on the rabbit hole it had already become like 4-5 weeks after the fact. It was mindboggling to realize someone ypu might casually interract with, IRL or online, may be an assassin.
unlikely as assassins don't really exist, most hit men are drug addicts or desperate people who owe money and its usually there first murder. the idea of the cold sophisticated hit Man is largely a myth
Military trained, well paid mercenaries.
So Mike was a guy that had some computer skills, enough to boast about them and offer his services, and had a penchant for child p*rn, created a bunch of different personas and scattered them all around the internet for years on end, eventually creating the persona of Milo on Reddit until he got tired of his own games and retired, coincidentally creating one of the biggest internet mysteries of all time.
Did I get that right? Because I don't think I understood. Someone help, please.
Pretty sure that you've got it in reverse. "Mike" is the persona this group created to eliminate the hounds of the internet on their trail. Looks like they succeeded
This might sound wild, but their "interest" in CP might just be to throw people off. Anyone who came across this persona's interest in CP would probably not think about snooping any further.
@@siddharthvenkatesan7403 exactly. A really unorthodox yet effective way of preventing people from treading any further towards what you don't want them to know.
@@catiena I disagree, since most people don't request any furhter info once there's a hint of cp
"Oh they're pedos, so case closed"
@@Sonilotos lmao I got 1000s of p3d0 screens XD
I don't think I have ever watched a video that goes more deep into a rabbit hole on the internet. its insane, this channel has inspired me to learn more about digital footprints and the horrors of the internet. Since last year I have been watching this channels videos and they never cease to amaze me. Lake city quiet pills.
I’ve been following this mystery since long before any breakthroughs on Mike. God, it’s so weird to see how it’s evolved, and how there’s STILL stuff to figure out. How enduring. Glad to see you cover it.
This is the best video on this subject I’ve seen. Most people stop at the hit man crap. I almost didn’t even watch this bc I thought I knew it already.
The only thing I think that is still a loose end is, if Mike is a one man army pretending to be every other account, then why would he be using that php code in the backend to write secret messages about supposed parties, Milo's death, hotels, expenses etc if he wasn't positive someone was going to see it? Or what exactly the purpose of those messages were or if there is something else still going on in the background.
a lot of people look in source codes for secrets, and all of that does nothing but add credibility to the story that all of them are separate individuals
Yeah I didn’t wanna be rude in the comments but I’m like what did you figure out bro? Just who the guy was or wasn’t? I’m way more interested in finding out why those pictures somehow had something to do with hitman… Cool he did that research but I could care less who the dude was
@@kateapple1 yeah annoying that he just said "i dont believe it" and didnt even investigate
literally, i like this video but like,,,,,, why the fuck would a guy go throught all this damn trouble and ADD a layer to their online dnd charecter by putting and asessination plot in there lol like i feel that i good just a shiton of background info but no real answer has to why make all this hitman bulshit
@@anigerrodz2730 The Dubai hit was carried out by Mossad.
i've been saving this in my watch later until my "friday" (which is on sunday because of work) and i'm SO excited to finally get to watch it! you make some of my favorite content on youtube and it's always a treat to see such a long video
this was incredibly confusing and i could not tell you anything about this mystery despite watching the whole thing. good video
exactly where I'm at 😂 going thru the comments looking for explanations
You guys really didn’t get anything out of this?
Some dude had inspirations of opening their own consultation company. They are super political though so they occasionally peppered the site with their ramblings. It seems like they're a little nuts yet rational enough to function in society. On top of being a little loony, they're also a pedo and wanted to create a space for that stuff. Not wanting to get caught up in legal trouble, they swapped identities and purposefully made it seem multiple people were working at once (maybe they actually shared some accounts with 1 or 2 people, not many imo though) for maintaining the image hosting site (I also don't think the consultation company took off since the website was halted). Maybe they got spooked for some reason, they decided to kill their reddit account mainly used to whine about techy and political stuff while being the main face of the image hosting service. Probably wanted attention and to see if anyone would care so I imagine that's why they made a follow-up post under the alias 2-6 on reddit.
It's pretty clear they have a fascination with military stuff--maybe a desire to seem like a "badass" vet?--so they like to fantasize online about being a veteran involved in organized crime doing hits on folks (speculation on my part, he comes off as a vet poser though and makes it seem unrealistic that someone who was involved in organized crime for decades actually posts secret messages in websites' source code 🤦♂). After getting too much attention on their site though they decided to drop it altogether and instead limit themselves to DSF forum/some other image hosting sites. Then after all of this recent close scrutiny by several individuals, some of which are actually competent/intelligent enough to spot BS and put pieces together, they decided to do a wipe of their accounts on DSF. Not like it really matters since it seems pretty clear to me that Nexpo went super hard for this video and knows the real identity of the person; if any law enforcement authority actually wants to take a look at the guy, well, they can always ask Nexpo lol.
Long story short, it's your typical degenerate keyboard warrior who ALSO actually knows some tech. They craved attention and the feeling of being special, decided to establish an image-sharing community for "questionable" images, got spooked for some reason (I wonder why...), tried to vanish while still getting their fix of having attention on them (hence the aliases), realized there's too much scrutiny and wanted to vanish for realz this time, and staged (with cooperation from DSF admin) a "hack" of specific accounts being deleted (coincidentally all of the aliases they used over the years). Obviously there is some speculation on my part (motivations mostly), this is what made the most sense to me though.
Me too, I'm literally LOST
How do you get nothing from an hour long video
Something I just noticed literally minutes ago that has me freaking out; the copyright label for the song "Stolas Speaks" from the Helluva Boss soundtrack is listed as "Lake City Quiet Pills." WHAT.
Hmm...
Damn
Can’t wait for more Internet Mysteries. I feel like Nexpo has some barely known stuff up his sleeves
bro how you got 5 days on us and you ain't tell us about 9/11
how the fuck are you 5 days early
>.> how are you early 5 days ago
@@noah-tl1gv patreon 😊
@Angri grrrr >.> i don't believe that, imma believe he's a time traveler
you mean to tell me that an internet group that hosted and shared illegal images involving minors had "military interests" and were located mainly on new jersey?
no way... how shocking...
Regardless of what happened, Mike is the center, and that's pretty much all we'll be able to get.
If SomeOrdinaryGamers digs deeper into this, we may have an answer.
Barely Sociable, a friend of Nexpo, did a video on this a few months ago.
Nexpo, many months later, has finally done his own take on it but dug much deeper.
I hope we see Nick Crowley or SOG do a video on this.
@@daoyang223 doubt sog or crowley big fans of both but what more can be found nexpo I think did as much as there can be but would be interesting for sog or crowley to keep the investigation going till theres concrete conclusion like with the world Corp thing..
"Angel 2-6" in the military translates to something like "Commander of Angel Company, Platoon 2" and would be of a "Sergeant" rank. As explained around 38:04 it's a position, not a name. My guess is Milo was likely "Angel 6" (meaning Captain of the "Angel" company). My guess is they started as a bunch of guys from the same platoon in Vietnam spreading into a larger organization.
My thoughts EXACTLY. it's a ranking, not just a username.
@@anadia2201 close - rank would be "Sergeant", leadership position would be "2-6"
i had a slightly different theory, but it might not hold water in comparison to yours, but i'd like to know your thoughts on it anyways.
angels refers to an altitude in thousands of feet. angel 2-6 could mean an altitude of 26,000, which is the height at which humans cannot survive with supplementary oxygen.
one problem is that the military seems to exclusively use the word angels when talking about that, never singular angel, angels.
either way, i have been on both sides of this conspiracy, one part of me believes milo was a larper who desperately wanted to sound cool because he lived a pathetic life, the other part finds the assassination too convenient. no one could've accidentally predicted an assassination while just playing around, especially the talk of hotels directly lining up with what happened. all the suspected assassins were from the eu, or at the very least departed from places in the eu towards the location. all the job postings were talking about the eu. i think they were most definitely using code to cover up what they were talking about, i think that code is only known to them, but it's oddly suspicious and lines up too much with what happened.
milo's death is super strange though, it's hard for me to believe he died the way he did, and how he did. or that he even died at all. maybe he quit the organization? the will was an off shore bank account he used to pay off his debt? no idea. i don't think you could 'quit' a job like his though, but who knows?
@@devonesq.7533 I get your logic, but I think it's unlikely. To your point, it's always "Angels five" or "Angels two-five" when specifically talking about MSL. Also, that's a term pretty specifically used for fighter pilots, which these operators decidedly were not.
there is also the concept of "Guardian Angel" in sniper culture, where the sniper is considered a protector of his brothers in arms. it could come from that.
It could 100% be the larper route - especially given the nasty bits of Milo's pedo side. I don't personally buy that the assassination in the hotel was the same as what was being discussed (Israel is well known to be behind the attack, and their OpSec is _way_ better than leaving messages on an open HTML page).
@@Chiberia i've done some more research on the hotel, and comparing the html page communications to that..
i mean it's pretty obvious whoever assassinated that guy had some sort of government funding, they had 2 teams of assassins, two recon teams, and countless surveillance teams.
also the assassins never booked the hotel until they 100% sure where their target would be.
i'm not entirely certain that it's not linked, but i am certain that none of those guys took part in the actual murder of that man.
i think milo is a fraud, or just incredibly stupid, hosting criminal job boards on a site hosting cp is just about the dumbest thing i can think of, especially a site you've been advertising, there's gonna be eyes on it.
i think the idea that they were pulling off heists or robberies is a lot more believable, anybody can plan and pull off a robbery, and it's a crime that attracts a lot less attention compared to being a hitman, so it would make sense if they got away with it for a decade or two.
The "Crystal Wind" quote is from a book whose protagonist is called Trent, apparently. Just adding that tidbit.
As an aside: 2-6's Reddit posts about Milo's death _do_ sound fake. They read like lines from a boilerplate action movie.
Edit: I don't find that last lcqp post on Reddit to be necessarily contradictory to Nexpo's theory. If the theory is that there's someone - let's call him Mike - who's Mike, Milo, 2-6 and Shade, and who's been maintaining these accounts as perhaps a way to hide liability and also sustain an elaborate alternate fantasy life/identity, then creating another account to try and get people to leave the lcqp mystery alone is actually perfectly consistent with the previous pattern of behaviour.
I still do not think that the 2-6 on reddit was him the typing was a lot different same with shade
@@lindsaykania106 which would be a pretty good way to cover up the fact that they're the same person. Not saying that they are for certain, but if someone is capable of pulling this whole thing off, they're probably smart enough and dedicated enough to fake different mannerisms for each of their different accounts. Well, either smart enough or crazy enough, maybe a mix of both.
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 Smarts would help with consistency from character to character, but realistically you just need a strong imagination and a passion for creative writing (or like you said, to just be genuinely crazy). Authors manifest different mannerisms and speech patterns for characters constantly while writing a novel, or perhaps roleplaying on an online forum.
For me, the weirdest bits are definitely the hidden messages about potential wetwork and overseas missions and such. Adding in those details just in the hopes that someone might get curious and find it is really next level dedication and planning. I'm trying to wrap my mind around why that level of depth would have been necessary for perpetuating his charade, but simultaneously it's the oddest part to me so perhaps that's all it was and it's working perfectly.
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 yea
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 It's not even really _that good_ of a faked mannerism either tbh. If you notice, literally every single word on the 2-6 post was misspelled. That's the real dead giveaway, it's extremely hammed up past the point where it could just be a regular person's typing style.
“Same thing we do every night, Pinky”
This is a HUUGE giveaway….someone born in 1930 is not going to be quoting Pinky and the Brain. On the slight chance they’d be aware of the show at all (via grandkids or something), it wouldn’t have an impact to them at the age of 60+ to be able to both know which specific quotes are relevant and when it’s appropriate to use them.
Pinky was also a name given to Mafia guys who often wore pinky rings. Watch some old mob movies LOL
That's your smoking gun? I'm an immortal beast and have unironically used the terms, "I needs me spinach" Popeye - early century.
"I zeee nozzing!" - Hogan's heroes 70's
"Same thing we do every night pinky." -90s
"You cray cray" 00's
"Imma yeet that" 2010's.
And countless more. It's okay for an internet sleuth to use this kind of stuff as a hunch but not an end all be all smoking gun.
@@josephmatthews7698mind repeating that first part?
my grandparents were born in the 20s/30s, had my mum who is currently in her mid-50s. she Loved pinky and the brain, so i could definitely see someone that age knowing the show if they have younger relatives? milo apparently had none though, so unless he was super into cartoons/animation it isnt likely. 2-6 would be about the right age though
None of my grandparents ever saw an episode of it and they had grandchildren. It definitely seems more like someone around my bf's age or a little older larping as an old guy.