Redmax chainsaws- the good, the bad and the ugly. 4 k video
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2019
- We had 3 Tricky Trees (say that fast 5 times) to fell. The beavers cut one across our 4 wheeling trail but the other 2 are hovering over an outbuilding. We pull out the Redmax chainsaws to see how they handle it. For those that don't know-Redmax took over Jonsered chainsaw brand.
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Stan, I'm 65 and have been sawing wood since I was almost big enough to hold the 2 man crosscut. We didn't use hearing or eye protection and didn't need them. However, once we started using chainsaws, we started using PPE. It only takes one accident to make you wish you had used PPE. And as bad as an eye injury is, a gradual loss of your hearing sneaks up on you, until you can't hear your wife's angelic voice.
Was that supposed to be, ""angelic" voice"?
or nagging?
I worked as a full time logger for years and ran Jonsered for years. My dealer, who catered to full time loggers, always did a set-up when selling a new saw. Those pro model Jonsereds are now called red max and still Swedish and my dealer sells the two biggest pro models. They quit making Johnsered oil so my dealer recommends and sells Echo red armour mix and my Jonsered 2171 and Dolmar both run great on it.
Super sad they quit making the jonsered saws. The jonsered saws you see now are homeline type models for the weekend woman. Redmax look close but don't seem to be just rebranded. To me anyway.
Definitely like seeing the learning curve. Keep them coming! Be safe and strive for excellence!
Stan the Man! Always having something interesting and new for us all. You spread yourself thin for concern of what to bring us and you succeed and a big THANKS for that, seriously! Sonny (CT)
Thank you Sonny, I really appreciate all of you!!
We were 13 and out in the woods in a rusty old Jeep Gladiator felling, bucking, and splitting cord after cord all summer.
Red max have just started coming back in Australia. Just a renamed jonesred/ husqvarna. All owned my Electrolux, domenic
The audio and video quality is phenomenal. And obviously those trees were just one pecker away from dropping.
That’s what she said 😎
Keep up what your doing man your doing a hell of job the haters are always gonna hate no matter what you change
Thanks a lot Tim!!
I like the tips you included.
Thanks Kim, hope they can help you out!
Hey that Beaver left a better hinge than most UA-cam Fallers hahaha 😂.
What do you call a toothless beaver?
All bark and no bite!
Always good to see the process of how one gets the tools they use to work too just how they want them
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching Michael!
Great video never herd of red max anything before.
Happy to show you something new Max, thanks !!
Have insurance on your shed? If so, UPGRADES, when the tree falls. Premiums, Nah....don’t worry about that; just think & imagine your new super cool shed you’ll be getting😉. (I’m thinking don’t have insurance on the shed & is why dropping the trees yourself🤣).
Franky is a beast; & think he was grinning the entire time he was blasting through the trees with the chainsaw. What a great guy, & he truly loves what he’s doing!
Thanks for the review & info on the chainsaw...didn’t know Redmax made them. Still prefer Stihl chainsaws; as at 8 yrs old on my Grandpa’s farm, that what we used; & have stuck w/ them ever since.
Cheers✌🏼
Also the saw frank is running is a slightly different design which is clamshell not the conventional crank case. Makes it cheaper but sacrifices performance. Same as a husky 460. The g900 is a husky 390xp.
Most definitely show the whole process!!
The GZ7100 redmax is the same saw as the Jonsered 2172 and the 372xp husqvarna. I love my old 2171 jonsered, they are one of the best saws out there.
Nice job cutting threw your notch tree pro
The process is a good journey.
I run redmax weed whackers edgers blowers, and even have a hedge trimmer, but when it comes to sawls I always will run stihl
Great video, really liked it. Love that you encourage people to use the proper ppe, even if you don't yourself. Also, Jonsered is great chainsaws, made by Husqvarna. I still prerer Husqvarna and Stihl though as that is what I am used to from school. Haven't been out doing hard work with a chainsaw for years now and damn I miss the smell of gas, oil and freshly cut spruce. Also, your cuts were really nicely done, good job on bringing those trees down.
Also, also, the chainsaw sounds REALLY sluggish, something is off for sure. Kinda sounds like some chainsaws will sound when it's just started in cold weather and you don't let it warm up.
Thank you Daniel, I appreciate the great comments!
Would you happen to know some of the differences between the Echo and the redmax saws? They seem very similiar in their manufacturing?
good show
Stan: Hey Frankie, do you recommend people holding the chainsaw while adjusting the carb?
Frankie: Yeah.
Stan: Remember Frankie, we're not talking to the average guy. People on the internet are stupid.
Frankie: I hope those people haven't reproduced yet. The average guy is worried about Murphy's law. Those people haven't got past Darwin.
Every saw Ive ever owned needed to be adjusted from the factory...My grandfather used to say they should be screamin at full throttle. A few adjustments and a sharp chain and you can go to town with a cheap saw for quite a while.
I have 2 redmax chainsaw and theyre overheating and it makes suction in the gas tank any solution ?
Anything made bye komatsu is a great saw best saws I ever ran
Capt Jack and i HAVE THE SAME EXPERIence, I'm 62 and from rural NC, Never heard of PPG! I used chainsaws when they weighed 30 lb. Once I got big enough to tote it we went work! Probably 40 years.
He's talking about PPE = Personal Protection Equipment.
Right on Franky, smash it so no one else has trouble. 😁😁
i run huskys,stihl,mac,echo,and a couple bluemax.i run them all at 40:1 and they run great on that.
My PPE growing up was a pair of blue jeans a t shirt in the warmer months and a pair of coveralls a coat in the colder months. If we felt like it we safety glasses and earplugs lol.
Yeah running very rich from the factory. Pretty standard. Did you purchase them online or from a dealer
Some good firewood there.
that's a good-looking black and tan you got
Lmaoo are those the chaps and helmet echo have you for the 590 timber wolf video
I bought a 7100 redmax it runs right with the 372xp husky. I love it. They took the jonsered name its almost identical
rick coats and Redmax is just husky also lol
I'm right there with you. But in my older years I have started to wear more often. But in hot weather becarefull of dehydration with the stuff on.
Never cut through the hinge wood, I’ve been told that’s important! Great channel though. Scratches an itch I can’t anymore haha
Yup,... I see that.
I just ordered the 7100 ,, what size is your saw???
The tiny little chainsaws problem was with the centrifugal clutch because the rpms of the motor didn’t bog when the chain stopped. it’s probably full of shipping oils making it constantly slip like that...
Great how you guys figure it out god bless
Thanks Peggy!
I'll stick with Macs for pine and Stihl for everything else.
Never had any out of the box issues with these two brands. Grease the bar, adjust the chain, fill it up with fuel, pull the rope and cut trees.
I use Opti 2 synthetic oil which mixes at 100:1. I run it in all of my engines, including 4-strokes. I mix it in the can when I buy gas, and I add Stabil at the same time. Always buy non-ethanol gas for small engines. Look for a gas station which says explicitly on the pump that the gas does not contain ethanol.
Karl Armbrust That’s one good thing about has here in Wisconsin, every station that sells premium gas (nearly all gas stations here) has non-ethanol gas since all premium fuel here is non-oxygenated.
If someone shows me a better way to do something or how to improve a tool, I'd be an idiot to not want to know how. Keep it up!
EFFCO ( used to be Olympic used a Jonsered lower end made in Italy, had louvers over air cleaner .....ya know .... like an Italian sports car lol) had a five-year warranty, haven't seen them anywhere couple years now?
The saws are all running surprisingly rich. In my area at 465 ft. of elevation, I find most saws are running lean when bought. Pick up a DTI-20K wireless tachometer and set your saws by that. Forget the number of screw turns and tuning by ear methods because they will sound better and better to a newbie the more clockwise the "H" screw is turned until you go too far and ruin a new saw. The tachometer is $100 and the refresh rate of its reading is fast enough to measure a two stroke. The fast refresh rate is necessary on two strokes. A cheap $20 tachometer has a longer intervals in between its readings of the rpm. Saving one saw from destruction pays for the tachometer. I'd be surprised if any of the 3 saws in the video are above even 10,500 rpm out of wood. Tune to 12k with your 32:1 or 40:1 and non-ethanol gas and your new toys should live forever. Just don't leave gas in them all the time and try to not runs saws empty when working them. I would not be surprised if the 1 bolt bar stud is actually just set in plastic with a really coarse lag bolt type of pitch. Over tightening the bar nut may strip the bolt from the housing. They started that when the junky tool less chain tightners came out. I work on Stihl Husqvarna, and Jonsered but have no exposure to the Redmax line and I need to check them out. The one that I looked at a while back didn't look at all like a Jonsered. I guess that's before the merge. I only truly enjoy the timber models of the three brands and all three build great saws when you get above 65cc. Great quality video guys and I enjoyed it.
I like my Homelite C-71 direct-Drive.
Nothing beats a husky
Redmax is literally owned by Husqvarna's parent company and the saws are a Husqvarna in red plastic.
RedMax is Husqvarna, you need buy the oil package to receive the 4 years warranty. The models from RedMax coverts to Husqvarna 455/390XP they are nice saws. The RedMax fuel is higher octane so it will run hotter I am glad you are using 32:1 single bolt is strange the Husqvarna 455 Rancher comes with two bolts. nice video
450 has one. It is weird
Franky also do shock resistance text 🤠👍
I'm a Husqvarna guy but those Redmax look like a very decent chainsaw.
Yeah I'm aussie too they're just starting to come in now. Basically the same as Husqvarna but with a different sticker and red paint ;)
@@JWNLawnCare No, it's not a Husqvarna. It's because Electrolux owned Jonsered/Red Max and Husqvarna. So they were similar and have similarities. But it's not a rebranded Husqvarna.
Redmax is Husqvarna with red plastic.
Since Husquvarna owns redmax they've been able to improve their chainsaws dramatically.
The redmax seems to be a decent saw. The high jet seems a little bit fat. I would have it on the wood and turn the high screw in about 1/4 turn.
Thanks for the comments Josh!
Need to run the saw at 8,000 - 12,000 rpm, with load, for a couple of minutes. This will let the saw intellegence adjust the carb and gas properly. This is stated in the manual.
The red Max’s are the new johnsereds
Most of them are single bolts. All my husqvarna and echo saws have just one. Never had a problem.
Im in Australia, and Ive never heard of Redmax chainsaws, but they seem ok
Husqrvarna took their Jonsered saws and changed the name to Red Max.
It's running rich from factory for break-in adjust the carb after a tank or two of gas
Ya I have their 7100 which redmax is Husqvarna just different colors
32:1 ? I have never run a 2-stroke so heavy on oil. For years I have been running Amsoil 100:1 2-stroke mix. Never any fouling and never an engine problem. Those saws loom lime Jonsered with a Redmax label.
The 50 cc saw is the same as a 450 rancher. and the Jonsered 2250. Homeowner / farm grade saw that the new ones also only have one bolt. If you would have gotten the 52 pro model there would have been two bar studs. They are essentially just Jonsereds that are made in japan instead of Sweden.
Pollan plant in the US. I looked it up
Husqvarna bought Redmax some time ago and I think they still own them. Also I think the Husqvarna 543XP that I recently bought that was made in Japan came from a Redmax plant. Where’s the cabin at? The saws sound like they are missing some. I love Black & Tans and I have one myself.
Husqvarna Bought Jonsered and eventually changed the name to Red Max. These Red Max saws are identical to the Jonsered models.
Those saws are running very rich need to be leaned out a bit till you only here them 4 stroking/burbling at wide open throttle under no load
Brian Kirwan there rich for break in
Its hard to really get an idea for performance. That pine was like dirt so you can tell its cutting through it no problem. Could you show it on some live Oak, Locust, Hickory, Cherry? Thanks
Its just a red Husqvarna plenty videos of the same saw in orange plastic out there.
Check out some bad boy mowers!!? I'm curious to hear you're opinion on them love the education from this channel I'm 26 yr old entrepreneur trying to start first landscape business
@stainly "dirt monkey" I am a redmax dealer and I am disappointed that your dealer did not take the the time to properly set up your saws. Even after your guy tuned them they still are not 100% you need a splined drive can tool to get proper range of adjustment. If you would like i can put together a video of how to tune redmax saws if you would like to have something to share with all your followers.
Husqvarna bought Redmax to hijack their strato design. Redmax aka Zenoah we’re great before being bought, and still make great products. The Chinese made homeowner Husqvarnas are Chinese made Zenoahs. Japanese made Zenoahs are the best inexpensive small saws outside of Echo.
To the warranty thing, i dont now how it is in the Us but in Germany Stihl, Husqvarna and Dolmar offer 1 year commercial, Echo does 2 year commercial
My Still MS250 came standard with a 1 year warranty and got a 2 year by purchasing 6 1 gallon mix Still brand
I seem to remember a "four finger Frankie" episode, was that construction, or sawing??
Looks to me like they tune them fat from the factory on purpose. I guess what I would ask you is given the price point for their pro level saws in comparison to a Stihl or Husqvarna which one do you think is more dependable and will last longer? I use my saws almost every day and come back to my old 1990's Stihl 036 with a 28" bar for almost all of my ground work. Its the one on my little profile picture. I think it also comes down to personal preference. I've recently tried some of the Echo saws for climbing and I love the 355T for it's power to weight in a lower price than the Stihl counterpart. Just depends on what you like I guess.
I wonder if they tune them down a bit till they break in, or they are toning it down for libility purposes. Consumers generally lack common sense with chains saws.
That comment about 2-1/2 turns out, thats not a good spot for all chainsaws, you should check your specific chainsaw before you set them. Most of mine will run between 3/4 and 1 turns out on the high jet, 2-1/2 will flood the crap out of them.
Didn't Frankie, lose a finger because of a chainsaw accident a while ago?
What his left index finger It looked like arthritis to me, or did he cut it off and they reattach it?
I think a chainsaw accident would take off more than just one finger
@@mikehoncho8268 no, not arthritis. he lost a couple fingers due to an accident.
@@xenonram It looked like he had all his fingers, so they reattached them? What was the accident a chainsaw?
@@jessicad3013 Maybe they took his toes and transplanted them to his hand like you see them do on TV.
Jonsered saws have been renamed to Redmax chainsaws. The jonsered name has basically been sidelined.
zfs1987 Jonesred and Red Max are both Husqvarna companies.
@@corbysherman4710 Yep definitely. Looks like Husqvarna is doing some creative marketing. I live in the Midwest and nobody has ever heard of Redmax. Most people around here only knew the Jonsered name.
@@zfs1987 they moved Jonsered manufacturing from Sweden to Japan and changed the name to redmax.
@@506curtis The two largest redmax are made in Swedan and are basically what used to be called Jonsered. The smaller redmax saws are still made in Japan but carry the Jonsered name according to my Dealer, who carried Jonsered for years.
honestly even me as a younger guy i dont wear ppe i do wear like a hard hat but thats bout it and i dont like wearing gloves when working with saws because then i can't really feel whats going on personally but i always have steel toe boots on while doing tree work only cuz if u acidentally hit the chain to your boot it should give u just enough stop to let u safe ur foot u may ruin a chain but chains are cheaper than getting a fake foot
Need to adjust the carb an always use good oil any racing 2 stroke is better to most brand oils.. they are great saws if tuned right
Open the high a little bit like maybe 1/4 turn or less personal
They are just a red Husqvarna. I heard they were phasing out the commercial line from Jonsered and pushing them to Redmax. I went to Jonsered's site the other day and they only had a few saws on there all homeowner saws. I saw Costco had Jonsered saw and some other stuff all battery powered tools a while back heard some other big box store maybe Menard's was going to carry them but that will just be homeowner stuff. I have a GZ5000 and I can't think of the model of the other its a red Husqvarna 439 or a rear handle version of the 435T top handle saw.
Jonsered's been phased out entirely. Their website shows no live links to any chainsaw models. Only way to get at the info is an "end around" through a google search.
Just shooting in the dark...best snowblower for a 6'5" person?
Let's do a video with my bobcat stump grinder on my A770 and I'll bring all my Stihl chainsaws
Yes stihl , if you buy the oil you get an extra 1 year warrenty
You cut your hinge wood! Have the pro you are planning on hiring explain the use of hingewood.
If you’ve got the safety gear then wear it
stfu
They really look like Jonsered saws?
All the best from Norway :-)
var det jeg tenkte å
Yes, very similar. When I saw it today it looks like the 2 Jonsereds chainsaws I have in Norway, a 2040 (I think) Turbo, and a 2095 also Turbo I think.
Looks like normal!!! Frankie working and Stan watching!! LOL ( Got to bust on you Stan. LOL) I like the review. I Know of Redmax blowers never tried the saws. I looked Redmax up and the company is owned by Husqvarna. So kind of a mixed history. Chainsaws are not a major product in my area. Eastern Iowa just does not have the timber that you do in MN.
Lol, thanks JD and thanks for the input!
Husqrvarna took their Jonsered saws and changed the name to Red Max.
whats up guys...i have a red max weed eater and a red max blower i use the one shot red max oil and 89 octain gas my weed eater is 7 years old and the blower is about the same if you use the red max one shot oil and a high octain gas 89 is what i use ...you shouldn't have a problem
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Thanks !
PPE is something you wear before going to bed with someone you don't know.
Dolmar used to have a 3-year warranty if you used the recommended oil.
Husqvarna sounds good. Go Sweden 🚩
😮 You look good for 48
Hey stan! Love the vids. Im 31 and i dont use the right ppe as i was also raised that way. I respect the saws and know what to look out for. So i get it! Lol!
Thanks Joshua!
saws 4 stroking needs leaning out!
Looks like they have some great saws Stan. As for warranty I get 4 year on all my Stihls from my local dealer. The deal is you buy a bottle of oil or motomix from them and it doubles your warranty from 2 years to 4, but given how much stuff I buy from my store they usually just mark it for 4 year anyway ;D I guess I satisfy the oil part though still given I buy 5l packs from them
Echo has 5 years for home owner
imagine seeing you here.dont you have anything better to do than watch chainsawing videos all day? hahaha
From Stihl chainsaw they are from one or two-year warranty with there's
MS 251 had 1 nut to hold the bar
I have a 2 year warranty on my sthl farm boss
i agree it sounds a little pukey .but thats not a little tweaking cant fix!
I agree with Franky about the bar nuts. I think the Red Max is the same as Dolmar and Makita now not sure on that. I work on allot of Stihl and Husqavara chain saws. Some manufactures set the saws rich for a 3 tank break in period. They also put in plastic covers over the adjustment screws on the carbs. 1 turn out is more than enough 2 turns out and the saw should be to rich.32:1 is rich in my book. But it depends on what 2 stroke oil you run. If you run a high quality oil 50:1 is fine. Some guys use Amsoil and run the saws at 80:1 or even 100:1 and I have torn down all of the above and they all have a good film of oil on the crank and piston rod. Just my 2 cents. I don't know why the would put only one pressure point (bar nut) on a mid sized saw that makes no sense.