Couple things here... 1. It could've been bad/very thin paint from the start. 2. The paint could've been over-polished previously. The top layers of the clear provide the bulk of the UV protection of the paint system, so if it gets polished away you're gonna see crap like this. 3. I do agree that the UV protection aspect of coatings gets over-sold by marketers, but it's primary function is to provide chemical resistance and resistance to abrasion by reducing surface tension. That helps to preserve the UV blocking aspects of a good clear coat system (assuming some detailer hasn't polished that away) and to help prolong the paint. I know not everyone has the luxury to park in a garage or carport, but when you're at high UV latitudes its still best to park inside whenever possible.
It is a dark vehicle. It will absorb more heat from the sun and therefore damage itself much faster, especially if stored outside. If you go to Dulux and insist on black tinted roof paint for your house they will tell you their 10 year gaurantee is completely voided by your request. The clearcoat on a vehicle does not stop this heat absorbtion either. It is clear! The suns rays go straight through. This is made worse by modern vehicles having thinner and thinner paint. This is like a bad game of limbo, where the bar is only 10mm off the ground and we are still trying to play. At some point we aren't going to be able to polish new cars at all if this continues. If clearcoat does not prevent this, of course ceramic coatings won't do anything. They are even thinner than the clearcoat. I have been toying with the idea of partnering with a high quality paintshop and telling folks to put their money towards a repaint above anything else. Of course it goes without saying: Do not buy a dark coloured vehicle and sit it outside. The paint will fail, and the headliner glue will melt.
@@ThePerfectionistJo that also doesn’t mean ot protected against UV. Uv damage occurs over many years. Ceramic does not stop it. Ceramic does not accelerate clear coat failures, nor do they happen In just 1 years time on most vehicles.
sometimes the UV rays can go through the clear coat and fade all the coloured paint and you cannot reach it to fix it due to the clear being on top. It's rare but did happen with some honda jazz vehicles from ten years ago
There are 3 types of UV degradation. A coating will not give 100% protection from all 3 forms, but it does provide UV protection! For a company to make a claim that is not true would be a violation of the Consumer Protection Act (yes, it still happens with questionable companies). The clear coat failure may have been caused or accelerated by the detailer!!! Not right away, but over time. A coating can not replace the UV protection of the clear coat that was removed from overpolishing! Preserving the most clear coat is always the best practice. Unprotected clear coats naturally lose, on average, 10% UV protection EVERY YEAR! So a vehicle clear coat, after only 4 years, could only have 65% of its UV protection Vs. when new. Now add the amount of clear coat that was removed when polishing, and it gets worse! That is why many coating "warranties" do not cover older vehicles. Yes, coatings are frequently over-hyped! Detailers also frequently over-polish! These are both a recipe for disaster. A reputable, well-educated detailer, and a quality, maintained coating, certainly is not a scam.
@@Detailjesus You just love taking a very narrow perspective and making blanket statements! Not a good look on you. You have an opportunity to bust a lot of the BS in this industry and improve things. But, you're just making it worse, with the clickbaity uneducated verbal vomit.
Worse: If your vehicle has to have A-pillars removed in order to get to the front window (350z/370z/New Z) - make sure you have instructions for your window replacement shop - some will try using a heat gun = there goes your paint - but you won't know til around a year later. Ceramic didn't do anything to save mine... Luckily if you're decent with painting small parts - you can get rattle can color matched paint, and 2k clear.... the biggest challenge is finding a clean environment to paint in..otherwise it's not a difficult process at all (maybe I'm lucky/patient).
@@07wrxtr1 ceramic definitely doesn’t advertise heat gun protection lol that is burning/melting vs UV fade. A heat gun will fry your skin before the sun does.
@@detailzautodetailing643 icon rocklear is the biggest scam since scam town but I had to sign an NDA so I can’t tell the truth sadly. But I still offer ceramic, it’s just sold as a long term wax replacement that’s easy to clean.
Ahhh you're full of it bro. I put a coating on my space shuttle a few months back. Cruised past the sun without issue. You must be using a low SPF coating.
I went onto the following websites and none of them claim any UV protection in their coatings: DIY Detail, Armour Detail Supply, C6 Ceramics, Gtechniq, Ethos, and Gyeon. Who did you use that claimed UV resistance?
@@Detailjesus Yup, I skimmed because I didn't have time to look into every product. I didn't look at the 5-year, and you're right. It claims UV resistance but doesn't give any detail on what level of resistance is provided. DIY 3-year doesn't claim resistance. Which coating did you use one the vehicle with clearcoat failure?
@ but all coatings claim UC protection just because they left it out of the description on one coating doesn’t mean if you call and ask they’ll tell you it does.
clearcoat failure! shouldnt coat it if its already failing and telling the customer its gona protect it after the detailer saw it was clearcoat failure yet still probably sold him on a service he didnt need.
Instead of all the stupid "infotainment bro" - I wish the car manufacturers would simply give you the option for some car show worthy paint from the factory without orange peel. Personally I'd skip all the stupid add ons for better paint. My old lexus SC300 1995 had better paint than anything else I have owned since...complete shit show on paint quality on "new" vehicles.
@@Detailjesus My favorite paint to polish is the single stage paint on old cars from the 1970s. I buy and sell classic cars as a hobby, focusing on 1973-85ish as they can still be bought fairly cheap. Polishing the single stage paint is awesome, there is no clear coat so you are polishing the paint directly not just a see through layer on top, it's usually sprayed on quite thick so you can get aggressive with it if necessary. It usually looks like glass when I'm done.
@@Detailjesus I'm not doing it as a business, just for myself so I can spend as much time as I want on it. I have guys come up to me at car shows all the time begging me to make the paint on their classic car look like mine. I also only buy low mileage cars with original paint so I don't have to mess around with cheap shitty paint jobs.
@Detailjesus I'm glad I don't have that kink of sun exposure where I live. It would be interesting to test McKees 37 pro 2.0 since it claims to offer the best UV protection on the market. It's the only coating I've used that claims any UV protection.
This is so true. It’s interesting to note that with ppf this is a big issue and Carpro have released a coating that is solely for uv protection - as their other products don’t actually offer uv protection! It’s surprising the lies we believe. Thanks for the video.
Couple things here...
1. It could've been bad/very thin paint from the start.
2. The paint could've been over-polished previously. The top layers of the clear provide the bulk of the UV protection of the paint system, so if it gets polished away you're gonna see crap like this.
3. I do agree that the UV protection aspect of coatings gets over-sold by marketers, but it's primary function is to provide chemical resistance and resistance to abrasion by reducing surface tension. That helps to preserve the UV blocking aspects of a good clear coat system (assuming some detailer hasn't polished that away) and to help prolong the paint.
I know not everyone has the luxury to park in a garage or carport, but when you're at high UV latitudes its still best to park inside whenever possible.
@@jeffc6832 the point of the video is that these products do not provide Uv protection regardless of paint thick/thin.
It is a dark vehicle. It will absorb more heat from the sun and therefore damage itself much faster, especially if stored outside. If you go to Dulux and insist on black tinted roof paint for your house they will tell you their 10 year gaurantee is completely voided by your request. The clearcoat on a vehicle does not stop this heat absorbtion either. It is clear! The suns rays go straight through. This is made worse by modern vehicles having thinner and thinner paint. This is like a bad game of limbo, where the bar is only 10mm off the ground and we are still trying to play. At some point we aren't going to be able to polish new cars at all if this continues. If clearcoat does not prevent this, of course ceramic coatings won't do anything. They are even thinner than the clearcoat. I have been toying with the idea of partnering with a high quality paintshop and telling folks to put their money towards a repaint above anything else. Of course it goes without saying: Do not buy a dark coloured vehicle and sit it outside. The paint will fail, and the headliner glue will melt.
I did a 50/50 on my 8-year-old paint after polishing
The one with ceramic coating applied didn’t get any fade whatsoever after 1 year
@@ThePerfectionistJo that also doesn’t mean ot protected against UV. Uv damage occurs over many years. Ceramic does not stop it. Ceramic does not accelerate clear coat failures, nor do they happen In just 1 years time on most vehicles.
sometimes the UV rays can go through the clear coat and fade all the coloured paint and you cannot reach it to fix it due to the clear being on top. It's rare but did happen with some honda jazz vehicles from ten years ago
Magic detail Australia, love it
I watched 1:23 of this video.best wishes.
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There are 3 types of UV degradation. A coating will not give 100% protection from all 3 forms, but it does provide UV protection! For a company to make a claim that is not true would be a violation of the Consumer Protection Act (yes, it still happens with questionable companies).
The clear coat failure may have been caused or accelerated by the detailer!!! Not right away, but over time. A coating can not replace the UV protection of the clear coat that was removed from overpolishing! Preserving the most clear coat is always the best practice. Unprotected clear coats naturally lose, on average, 10% UV protection EVERY YEAR! So a vehicle clear coat, after only 4 years, could only have 65% of its UV protection Vs. when new. Now add the amount of clear coat that was removed when polishing, and it gets worse! That is why many coating "warranties" do not cover older vehicles.
Yes, coatings are frequently over-hyped! Detailers also frequently over-polish! These are both a recipe for disaster. A reputable, well-educated detailer, and a quality, maintained coating, certainly is not a scam.
@@ryanl8653 no one’s ever going to report ceramic coating companies over the consumer protection act. Ceramic coating does not provide UV protection.
@@Detailjesus You just love taking a very narrow perspective and making blanket statements! Not a good look on you. You have an opportunity to bust a lot of the BS in this industry and improve things. But, you're just making it worse, with the clickbaity uneducated verbal vomit.
@ thank you.
Worse: If your vehicle has to have A-pillars removed in order to get to the front window (350z/370z/New Z) - make sure you have instructions for your window replacement shop - some will try using a heat gun = there goes your paint - but you won't know til around a year later. Ceramic didn't do anything to save mine...
Luckily if you're decent with painting small parts - you can get rattle can color matched paint, and 2k clear.... the biggest challenge is finding a clean environment to paint in..otherwise it's not a difficult process at all (maybe I'm lucky/patient).
@@07wrxtr1 ceramic definitely doesn’t advertise heat gun protection lol that is burning/melting vs UV fade. A heat gun will fry your skin before the sun does.
So will you no longer be offering ceramic coating ? Whats your take on icon rock clear ?
@@detailzautodetailing643 icon rocklear is the biggest scam since scam town but I had to sign an NDA so I can’t tell the truth sadly. But I still offer ceramic, it’s just sold as a long term wax replacement that’s easy to clean.
Ay dog, how many mils thic was that roof anyways?
@@97jasdeep I didn’t measure this time but I remember when it first came in, was around 120 microns or so on my elcometer
Surprised the customer didn’t come after you guys for damages 😂
Not our issue 🤷🏻♂️
@ Checked your website, why do you still advertise it as “UV Protection” being one of the benefits. Come on Satan, you can’t be that hypocritical.
Lmao that’s the largest rubber chicken I’ve seen!!
@@Melvin-belvin hahahaha me too 😂😂
Ahhh you're full of it bro. I put a coating on my space shuttle a few months back. Cruised past the sun without issue. You must be using a low SPF coating.
😂😂
I went onto the following websites and none of them claim any UV protection in their coatings: DIY Detail, Armour Detail Supply, C6 Ceramics, Gtechniq, Ethos, and Gyeon.
Who did you use that claimed UV resistance?
@@StevePierson123lol you must of skimmed. DIY detail 5 year ceramic says “shield against harmful UV rays” in the description.
@@Detailjesus Yup, I skimmed because I didn't have time to look into every product. I didn't look at the 5-year, and you're right. It claims UV resistance but doesn't give any detail on what level of resistance is provided. DIY 3-year doesn't claim resistance. Which coating did you use one the vehicle with clearcoat failure?
@ I’m not allowed to say their name anymore
@ but all coatings claim UC protection just because they left it out of the description on one coating doesn’t mean if you call and ask they’ll tell you it does.
@ if you’re going to try and prove someone wrong you should probably do better research child.
so can i just put on a wax at $1500 service package with a 10 year warranty😂😂😂
@@josequiroz4605 I mean wax is not ceramic. But the majority of labor comes from paint correction and detailing prep not the topper
clearcoat failure! shouldnt coat it if its already failing and telling the customer its gona protect it after the detailer saw it was clearcoat failure yet still probably sold him on a service he didnt need.
@@josequiroz4605 wtf are you talking about? This car was purchased new by the owner, it was not failing when it was coated by us last year 🤦🏼♂️
@Detailjesus didn't say you did something wrong. I just said the possibility.
@Detailjesus or it was at the point of failing already when it got coated lol 😆 😂
Instead of all the stupid "infotainment bro" - I wish the car manufacturers would simply give you the option for some car show worthy paint from the factory without orange peel. Personally I'd skip all the stupid add ons for better paint. My old lexus SC300 1995 had better paint than anything else I have owned since...complete shit show on paint quality on "new" vehicles.
@@07wrxtr1 old car paint was a lot better on certain brands. Lexus is one of them
@@Detailjesus My favorite paint to polish is the single stage paint on old cars from the 1970s. I buy and sell classic cars as a hobby, focusing on 1973-85ish as they can still be bought fairly cheap. Polishing the single stage paint is awesome, there is no clear coat so you are polishing the paint directly not just a see through layer on top, it's usually sprayed on quite thick so you can get aggressive with it if necessary. It usually looks like glass when I'm done.
@ I’ve done a lot of single stage, it never clears up as nice
@@Detailjesus I'm not doing it as a business, just for myself so I can spend as much time as I want on it. I have guys come up to me at car shows all the time begging me to make the paint on their classic car look like mine. I also only buy low mileage cars with original paint so I don't have to mess around with cheap shitty paint jobs.
Hard to tell but the paint looked like a crap respray.
@@dustin3700 it’s never been repainted
@Detailjesus I'm glad I don't have that kink of sun exposure where I live. It would be interesting to test McKees 37 pro 2.0 since it claims to offer the best UV protection on the market. It's the only coating I've used that claims any UV protection.
@ they all claim Uv protection
@@Detailjesus
Yes sir. They sure do
This is so true. It’s interesting to note that with ppf this is a big issue and Carpro have released a coating that is solely for uv protection - as their other products don’t actually offer uv protection! It’s surprising the lies we believe. Thanks for the video.
No prob!
Detail Jesus has risen!
@@brianr749 every day
Queue church organ... Probably the most rational use of an organ since the messiah was invented.
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