Geez. You know, I was about to say the same and I saw this comment! Love cruising through all AZ, but Jack tells tales of the superstitions like no other!
He's great to listen to. I'm trying to get out there for a 3 week trip to the Superstitions w/my dog (shepherd/hound mix) - Hopefully Jack will be around, giving a lecture or attending a special event☆
Glad you're back in the saddle Jack...... here's what an old man told me, "of course you know where it is but you don't know that you know so you keep looking in the wrong place" ......
Thanks I started to write a short story for the LDM Museum Journal and took 2 years and 60+ pages 8 &1/2 X 11 to report out the total story as known today !!
The knowledge this channel contains is invaluable. A nice cup of coffee after dinner and an episode of this, makes my Sunday. Thanks guys, please keep them coming.
I love the stories. I also like to look back to a time when we didn't have a big government ruling every part of our lives. You could literally make something of yourself as there was so much opportunity. We are regulated to death in this era.
Thanks for the comment as part of a small mining operation for 26 years I understand this issue. And when they declared the Wilderness boundaries they removed most of the real opportunities for small Miners lately even the huge mining companies are having a hard time.
This has been very enlightening. Thank you Jack for filling me in on the Silver mines of the Cochise county mines and the Superstition area mines. I use Bismuth as a support metal when, I make parts that have open spaces and need further machining the Bismuth is melted and is poured in to solidify the part structure. Bismuth expands upon cooling.
WOW! i do love these stories. i am 67 years old. still pretty healthy. and fit. i am having these dreams of living the rest of my days living like the old miners with the whiskers, the donkey, living in the desert, searching for that mother lode so to speak. i have looked at Nevada, and Arizona, for silver and gold. i don't want to go under ground, but dig maybe a big hole and follow a vein that way. your stories about the Superstition Mountains is inspiring, but scary, like Sennes gold and the Woodbury's. just amazes me. i always wonder if all the train holdups, if all the gold from them has always been recovered. i was born 100 years too late.
I've crossed those mountains since 1979 wen i was 4 years old going to visit my 2nd and 3rd cousins and Great Aunts and Ukules in Clifton AZ.. Today I'm 49 and still taking that 660 mile trip from Los Angeles where I live and was born and raised to see my second third fourth and fifth cousins still residing in Clifton. Unfortunately their is no Great Aunts or Uncles with us current day. I've seen the 10 dFWY go from a 2 lane road threw Phoenix too the parking lot it is today. Every year when I come out, I see how much closer west the 10FWY is getting.. I always dream about finding the lost treasures residing in those mountains hidden creases.
👍 I remember reading about Al Sieber prospecting for copper before the Tonto Road and his death. Bismuth has replaced lead pellets in shotgun shells for bird hunting. There were jokes about it at first. Not giving the birds lead poison but Pepto - Bismo.
Howdy Jack., great job on the story today.. very interesting indeed.. starting to get gold fever all over again.. enjoy your week ahead.. and keep the stories coming !!!
Thank you from Missouri- I always look forward for a new upload. There’s 10” of snow on the ground here and what a treat, sitting here with a cup of coffee, a good fire and a good ole Superstition Mystery. Thanks! ☕️🔥⛏🤠
Most of the old mine owners were secretly dowsing to find their mine's ore bodies. Today, all of the physics used in dowsing have been reverse engineered and explained in the book, The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition ($14.95), which also teaches how to build the modern light weight ball bearing rod for becoming a professional dowser by practicing the book's dowsing lessons. I hope dowsing enriches your life and have a safe, healthy, good day.
Like the live casts. Very cool. Thanks Jack! Great detailed story. Photos add a lot. Geeze! Pepto Bismal contains mining minerals?!! Who would of thought? Thanks again.
I like this stuff. Go further out look for the same look for the flats . Good stuff. Still see all of it. Not in it next to the superstitions. Saw it from the trail
Interesting. Would you have someone loke jeff williams look at the geologicals of the mountains?- to determine what areas people like the dutchman may have found their gold? And if the angle of the sun setting changed 5 degrees? in the last 150 yrs how much would that change the angles of the place you were looking at? An astronomer would be able to tell you how much the sun move and in what direction it moved
sorry , Jack that's not the LDM ..and yes i can prove it .that's not what he said , the wording was " from my mine i can see the soldiers on the old military trail ,but they can not see my mine " great story Jack
Hunh, I'd heard years ago that it was historically documented that over a thousand years ago there used to be a mine somewhere in Greece producing Electrum. So much that some people minted coins out of it. The Greeks knew it was an alloy, but separating the gold and silver was too much work. So, they just purified it and used the mixture. Apparently that mine got tapped out centuries ago, but back in the day it seemingly had quite a lot of ore in it. Didn't know that was also something people found in the US SW.
Most gold has some silver in it central idaho bosie baison 78 to 92 percent gold osceola nv os 72 percent gold and 28 percent silver. As gold is washed down rivers the silver leaches out leaving purer gold
I believe that Gene "Woodbury" was actually Jesse "Woodson" (James). George was Frank. No matter what photo trail Woodbury may have left in his wake. Jesse had many body doubles, and front men.
has anyone taken into account the fact that the sun has changed the angle that it sets at over the last 160? yrs. That would change the view you see through those holes in the rocks.
REPLY Some of the more astute believe it is in the high NE Sup. Mts. This is where the Silver Chief and Rogers/Woodbury /other 20th century mining is found.
@@mhzprayer in which direction is that crow flying, I have lived in az for 60 years and have hunted and fished all along the salt and verse. Also hunted area on apache trail and fish creek down to lake and river but don't know place names in the ship's. Since I am disabled now cant go there but is there a map or book that would show the areas being talked about when discussing mining and exploring in the sup's. I know where weaver's and miners needle is first water tortilla flats flat iron but dont have a clue about Roger's or garden valley boulders canyon and the like.
@@thomaswatkins2031 hi, well I don't live I in AZ, I just happen to watch these vids and I ordered the book "Crooked Mountain" by Ron Feldman. From Amazon I got a used copy for $10. It has a map in the front and it's a good book, though I'm only halfway thru and I still dont know if it's intended to be true history of Ted Cox or just a "historical fiction" type of thing. But still good reading. By that map Rodgers Ridge looks about 12 miles northeast of QcU ranch.
@@mhzprayer thanks going to have to take a drive to the museum and take a look at that book or maybe mr Feldman's ok corral riding stables, grandson always enjoys the museum and goldfield since they are all less than a mile apart might hit all three. I know around the mountains very well. As we were always out in the desert when younger but dont know the names of most mountains in the interior part of the superstitions. Once again thank you.
copper head mountain i own it im the chief rhey done dug up there end of the world they dug up a plaque and if om not heerd all will die in this huge area all will die
@@jacksanfelice8840 has there been any other good ore proven to come from the mine? Do you think he found these mines and prospected them and found his pocket of rich ore ? And do you think it's the same as Dr thorns mine
It was never lost just hidden in a extremely hard place to find and watched!!! REad Lost El Dorado of Jacob Waltz by Jack San Felice for the answers!!!
@@dustinjohnson3463 yes some very high grade owned by the Dutchman and not flour gold but nuggets! BUT you see the mine has been high graded for over 100 years and the mine tunnel has been closed and now the Pit has been closed also you can read more about it in Lost El Dorado of Jacob Waltz by Jack San Felice and Jacob's Trail by Jesse Feldman and his new book out by March 2022 as a followup to his original tht clears up some misconstrued facts!!!
Hope you didn't just start a new gold rush! I always cringe when you guys cover a story about an area that's on my prospect list. Thanks anyway...and by the way... Jack is not a noted speaker! ...he doesn't use notes like Hank!
I can listen to Jack tell stories of the gold & mountains all day. Always fascinating
Thank you Brittany you are my fav watcher and best comments > Jack
Thanks
Thanks !!!
Geez. You know, I was about to say the same and I saw this comment! Love cruising through all AZ, but Jack tells tales of the superstitions like no other!
He's great to listen to. I'm trying to get out there for a 3 week trip to the Superstitions w/my dog (shepherd/hound mix) -
Hopefully Jack will be around, giving a lecture or attending a special event☆
Glad you're back in the saddle Jack...... here's what an old man told me, "of course you know where it is but you don't know that you know so you keep looking in the wrong place" ......
Love the comment JSF
That is so true-Thanks
@Jay Thomas Reset, That makes sense👍
I grew up there as the 2nd generation. Great place to explore with old mlnes and large Indian ruins.
I’ve watched every episode. This was by far my favorite. Good job Jack! 👍👍
Same here, bysmuth as collector metal. can really turn lead into gold just like the philosophers say. What about the mercury vapors?
Thank you very much !!
hey keep watching Jack
Thanks I started to write a short story for the LDM Museum Journal and took 2 years and 60+ pages 8 &1/2 X 11 to report out the total story as known today !!
Thanks
Always like to listen to Jack. Thanks
Thanks
Thanks
The knowledge this channel contains is invaluable. A nice cup of coffee after dinner and an episode of this, makes my Sunday. Thanks guys, please keep them coming.
Thanks
Thanx gents another great story by your presenters
Thanx Jsf
Love this channel. Yall feel like family to me.
Thanks JSF
Thanks !!
We Also Enjoy, Thank You For Sharing...
Channel is so under rated...Thanks again fellas
Hello again from Tennessee, another great story. May God bless all of you guys and your families. 🙏
Thanks a lot. JSF
I love the stories. I also like to look back to a time when we didn't have a big government ruling every part of our lives. You could literally make something of yourself as there was so much opportunity. We are regulated to death in this era.
Thanks for the comment as part of a small mining operation for 26 years I understand this issue. And when they declared the Wilderness boundaries they removed most of the real opportunities for small Miners lately even the huge mining companies are having a hard time.
I'm Canadian but I absolutely love all these stories
I am so fascinated with the Dutchman Stories, great story.
Glad you enjoyed it
Jack great story keep'em coming I've watched just about all of them.thank you.
Excellent terrific stories, you tell them so well I can’t stop listening and I can’t wait for the next video, thank you Jack😀
Thanks JSF
Thank you very much
This has been very enlightening. Thank you Jack for filling me in on the Silver mines of the Cochise county mines and the Superstition area mines. I use Bismuth as a support metal when,
I make parts that have open spaces and need further machining the Bismuth is melted and is poured in to solidify the part structure. Bismuth expands upon cooling.
Well done thank you jack.
These storys are so great!!
Awesome
WOW! i do love these stories. i am 67 years old. still pretty healthy. and fit. i am having these dreams of living the rest of my days living like the old miners with the whiskers, the donkey, living in the desert, searching for that mother lode so to speak. i have looked at Nevada, and Arizona, for silver and gold. i don't want to go under ground, but dig maybe a big hole and follow a vein that way. your stories about the Superstition Mountains is inspiring, but scary, like Sennes gold and the Woodbury's. just amazes me. i always wonder if all the train holdups, if all the gold from them has always been recovered. i was born 100 years too late.
Prescott, AZ area!!!
Its like sitting around a campfire and listening as a group to wonderful stories, of the old west....... bring the marshmallows
Thanks Jsf
Thank you very much Jack for the wonderful
Stories, loved them.
Take care my friend.
Ron
Great Story. I love it.
Great story as always enjoyed it
About time someone with some sense can relate facts and history of these mountains.
Good to see you back. Please, keep them coming.
I've crossed those mountains since 1979 wen i was 4 years old going to visit my 2nd and 3rd cousins and Great Aunts and Ukules in Clifton AZ.. Today I'm 49 and still taking that 660 mile trip from Los Angeles where I live and was born and raised to see my second third fourth and fifth cousins still residing in Clifton. Unfortunately their is no Great Aunts or Uncles with us current day. I've seen the 10 dFWY go from a 2 lane road threw Phoenix too the parking lot it is today. Every year when I come out, I see how much closer west the 10FWY is getting.. I always dream about finding the lost treasures residing in those mountains hidden creases.
How about Del Potters mine on the upper Frisco? On FMI property? Or the Carlisle near Duncan?
👍 I remember reading about Al Sieber prospecting for copper before the Tonto Road and his death. Bismuth has replaced lead pellets in shotgun shells for bird hunting. There were jokes about it at first. Not giving the birds lead poison but Pepto - Bismo.
Wow that is new to me good info JSF
Thanks Non toxic Bismuth is used as an alloy in shotgun shells
Howdy Jack., great job on the story today.. very interesting indeed.. starting to get gold fever all over again.. enjoy your week ahead.. and keep the stories coming !!!
Great stuff as always
Thanks
Thank you from Missouri- I always look forward for a new upload. There’s 10” of snow on the ground here and what a treat, sitting here with a cup of coffee, a good fire and a good ole Superstition Mystery. Thanks! ☕️🔥⛏🤠
Thanks for watching. Look for more episodes maybe Stagecoach Robberies!!
Most of the old mine owners were secretly dowsing to find their mine's ore bodies. Today, all of the physics used in dowsing have been reverse engineered and explained in the book, The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition ($14.95), which also teaches how to build the modern light weight ball bearing rod for becoming a professional dowser by practicing the book's dowsing lessons. I hope dowsing enriches your life and have a safe, healthy, good day.
Like the live casts. Very cool. Thanks Jack! Great detailed story. Photos add a lot. Geeze! Pepto Bismal contains mining minerals?!! Who would of thought? Thanks again.
TRhanks loved the comment on Pepto . JSF
Thanks ! Hard to believe I have been taking that stuff for years not knowing what it was.
This is a great video. I can't wait to come and visit. My brother just moved into the shadow of the Superstitions.
This is better than the series in the history channel
Thanks 👍 great 🙌 very enjoyable 👋
Thanks
I just love your "stories"
felton thank you great story.
Amazing. Thank you for passing this knowledge on.
Thanks Jack. Love your tales of gold and the mountains
Thanks
I always enjoyed hiking in those mountains!
Awsome story,,,,
Great video! Excellent presentation!
Well done with the history of mining.
I've spent many years in those mountains that I would never trade for anything.
I like this stuff. Go further out look for the same look for the flats . Good stuff. Still see all of it. Not in it next to the superstitions. Saw it from the trail
I didn't know about the standard being changed from silver to gold. I always learn something new in this channel! Many thanks!🌵❤️🌵
Yes that change started in Spain then Europe and then America . It cause a lot of millionaires to lose their fortunes!
Thank you for your story!!
Fantastic just like looking for pegleg.
Love me some JACK SAN FEEELICE!
Thanks
Thanks for sharing my states history
Thank You Jack
I swear Ive met you before in Torrington Wyoming Jack
Interesting my Doppleganger!!
I am going to buy your book as soon as I have money to do so. L💚VE Your work !
I rekon Jack tells a good enough story to get me to buy a map off him .
Lol Looks like the famous picture of Canadian Rapper Drake
Send me jack ..you keep it all...😉😉
Interesting. Would you have someone loke jeff williams look at the geologicals of the mountains?- to determine what areas people like the dutchman may have found their gold? And if the angle of the sun setting changed 5 degrees? in the last 150 yrs how much would that change the angles of the place you were looking at? An astronomer would be able to tell you how much the sun move and in what direction it moved
sorry , Jack that's not the LDM ..and yes i can prove it .that's not what he said , the wording was " from my mine i can see the soldiers on the old military trail ,but they can not see my mine " great story Jack
Jesse was also the money and mind behind Jack Fraser's multiple operations.
Hunh, I'd heard years ago that it was historically documented that over a thousand years ago there used to be a mine somewhere in Greece producing Electrum. So much that some people minted coins out of it. The Greeks knew it was an alloy, but separating the gold and silver was too much work. So, they just purified it and used the mixture. Apparently that mine got tapped out centuries ago, but back in the day it seemingly had quite a lot of ore in it.
Didn't know that was also something people found in the US SW.
Mar Hawkman thanks for the comment on Electrum very interesting. Jack
Thanks
Thanks
Most gold has some silver in it central idaho bosie baison 78 to 92 percent gold osceola nv os 72 percent gold and 28 percent silver. As gold is washed down rivers the silver leaches out leaving purer gold
I believe that Gene "Woodbury" was actually Jesse "Woodson" (James). George was Frank. No matter what photo trail Woodbury may have left in his wake. Jesse had many body doubles, and front men.
has anyone taken into account the fact that the sun has changed the angle that it sets at over the last 160? yrs. That would change the view you see through those holes in the rocks.
So essentially the lost Dutchman mine is on Roger's ridge
Several believe it to be near Rogers Ridge not on the Ridge!!
👍👍👍👍☕☕🍩🍩
Woodbury staking 118 mining local claims , would suggest that I am correct.
People will be telling stories and talking about the Superstitions long after they are gone. Phoenix and the large mines are closing in. :(
Imagine having as a problem in Arizona too much water
Some things just never change. False charges, wrongful arrest
You can't roller skate in a buffalo herd was a superstition clue by Rodger Miller
hi jack is it true most of the locals think the silver chief was the dutchman mine?
REPLY Some of the more astute believe it is in the high NE Sup. Mts. This is where the Silver Chief and Rogers/Woodbury /other 20th century mining is found.
I am in Canada how can I buy your books?
Wuould like to know where quarter circle u or board house is in relation to Rodgers ridge or Woodbury mining area
QcU is maybe 7 miles from US60 on Peralta road. According to map in Ron Feldman's book.
It looks about 12 miles from Rodgers Ridge as the crow flies.
@@mhzprayer in which direction is that crow flying, I have lived in az for 60 years and have hunted and fished all along the salt and verse. Also hunted area on apache trail and fish creek down to lake and river but don't know place names in the ship's. Since I am disabled now cant go there but is there a map or book that would show the areas being talked about when discussing mining and exploring in the sup's. I know where weaver's and miners needle is first water tortilla flats flat iron but dont have a clue about Roger's or garden valley boulders canyon and the like.
Autocorrect changed sup's as in superstitions into ships
@@thomaswatkins2031 hi, well I don't live I in AZ, I just happen to watch these vids and I ordered the book "Crooked Mountain" by Ron Feldman. From Amazon I got a used copy for $10. It has a map in the front and it's a good book, though I'm only halfway thru and I still dont know if it's intended to be true history of Ted Cox or just a "historical fiction" type of thing. But still good reading. By that map Rodgers Ridge looks about 12 miles northeast of QcU ranch.
@@mhzprayer thanks going to have to take a drive to the museum and take a look at that book or maybe mr Feldman's ok corral riding stables, grandson always enjoys the museum and goldfield since they are all less than a mile apart might hit all three. I know around the mountains very well. As we were always out in the desert when younger but dont know the names of most mountains in the interior part of the superstitions. Once again thank you.
How can I purchase your books, I don’t see them available
Is this the same Richard Byrd of North Pole Fame?
No but thanks r the question
copper head mountain i own it im the chief rhey done dug up there end of the world they dug up a plaque and if om not heerd all will die in this huge area all will die
Has it been found already ?
Yes the LDM has been found?
@@jacksanfelice8840 has there been any other good ore proven to come from the mine? Do you think he found these mines and prospected them and found his pocket of rich ore ? And do you think it's the same as Dr thorns mine
It was never lost just hidden in a extremely hard place to find and watched!!! REad Lost El Dorado of Jacob Waltz by Jack San Felice for the answers!!!
Have you seen gold ore rich ore from that area with your own eyes not just that 1/2 oz to ton stuff.
@@dustinjohnson3463 yes some very high grade owned by the Dutchman and not flour gold but nuggets! BUT you see the mine has been high graded for over 100 years and the mine tunnel has been closed and now the Pit has been closed also you can read more about it in Lost El Dorado of Jacob Waltz by Jack San Felice and Jacob's Trail by Jesse Feldman and his new book out by March 2022 as a followup to his original tht clears up some misconstrued facts!!!
this is gods county now you can make gold from rocks ask the mortaggeee banks mortagreee mortagee first summitt embezzlers
your completly wrong location wise
Saw this already to much talking not showing anything,
Hope you didn't just start a new gold rush! I always cringe when you guys cover a story about an area that's on my prospect list. Thanks anyway...and by the way... Jack is not a noted speaker! ...he doesn't use notes like Hank!
@Hank Sheffer Thanks for staying up late to straighten me out... no offense intended!
No worries this area is now overgrown and very diff. to get to . JSF Thanks.
Nope I dont think so most of where the gold and silver is now is in Wilderness!!! Jack but thanks
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He goes off the story line sometimes .then I find it hard to follow him my brain wonders ..
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