Windows 11 vs Ubuntu vs Fedora 39 vs Arch Linux - Speed Test!
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An update to our speed testing series! Windows vs. various Linux distros include Ubuntu, Fedora, and Arch! We go over some general side-by-side testing.
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00:00 - Windows v Linux!
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02:27 - Boot Speed Tests
03:37 - Space and File Transfer
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07:02 - Battery Life Test
07:55 - Geekbench 6
08:58 - Graphics Benchmark
09:50 - Phoronix Test Suite
14:27 - Final Thoughts - Наука та технологія
Please pay more attention to GB and GiB, plus I like to see the real number, assuming your storage is 512GB I made the true calculation in GB:
Fedora - 7.7 GB
Arch - 45 GB
Ubuntu - 49.2 GB
Windows - 72 GB
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Is arch using GiB or GB ?
@@CA-JA4:10 it shows GiB
I was quite surprised Ubuntu and Arch could take this much space. That didn’t look right 😮
All of these tests with endeavor are taken with a grain of salt
Edge opens faster on Windows 11 because it was running in the background already.
Note that Edge on Windows 11 is always preloaded in the background at all times. You can disable this, but its enabled by default which means its still on your ram even if you don't use it
Not only ram but it occupies vram like some other apps in windows. This results in less free vram for games.
Especially ngreedia gpu owners may not like to have even less vram :)
I mean we can also optimize the shit out of our Linux kernels never mind the desktop environment and distro. I think it makes sense to test vanilla like this. Was really informative
@@aladdin8623 NVIDIA GeForce more like NVIDIA GeNocide (They are building a supercomputer for Israel)
Teams too, it makes your fan race, like really.
The reason things like kdenlive loaded faster on arch linux is because it ran kde plasma. The qt and other libraries are already loaded as they are used by other processes
thats a solid point, itd be very interesting to see a comparison between windows, and a distro like fedora with different DEs / WMs (eg gnome, kde, xfce and / or lxde, and maybe i3 / sway)
Makes sense, integrated tool chains.
Just one thing, 435 Gib are equal to 467 Gb so windows is last 😢
I really don't get why windows continues to use GB when everything else seemingly uses ... idk which there called like we keep representing Gib as GB and that gets so confusing
@@piman13_71It's metric vs binary
Funny how metric is the one that makes less sense
@@LaugeHeiberg Ya but honestly what bothers me most is why we don't just pick Binary and go with it. OMG some idiot who didn't know now thinks he has more storage! THAT'S IT! nothing else changes because windows is the only one who uses the messed up version
Goddamn it, Gibi vs Giga strikes again
Well, no, there's gigabit, and there is gigabyte those are two different mesurments infact isps will usually advertise there speed in gigabit not gigabyte.
The Python results are not surprising, because on Windows, Python can't use the fork() system call so they have to make an entirely new process for parallel computing.
That's a really interesting explanation, thanks. I remember for a uni class I had to create my own shell on Linux, implement some of my own commands (the coolest one was my simplified version of Neofetch), so I had to make a forking function to allow me to run my own shell
Although of course, my shell was written in C
@@overlord1995I had to do a similar thing. Actually looking back it was pretty interesting although I probably was frustrated at the time of implementing it.
Surprising battery result - great to see
yeah, really surprising, considering hw acceleration in chromium is not a strong point of linux
@@bkmnst Yes, I'm curious if it's a local video playback test with VLC and hardware acceleration on
@@bkmnst iirc there is some work happening to make hw acceleration work nicely on linux, so really hoping to see when that comes out
@@chickenbobbobba acceleration already works in firefox apparently
@@AndRei-yc3ti neat
always love comparison videos like this, thanks :)
tiny suggestion for next time: when you call out the time of one of the OS-es, stick that time in the screen of that OS. This way we can also visually compare them which is easier than running back the video to hear your voice. (and stop + remove the timer once the last OS has done its thing)
I know that Endeavour is about as close to Arch you can get without being vanilla Arch, but it's a bit misleading to call it "Arch" in a benchmarking video, especially when you check things like boot speed, storage, etc.
Also I think going with Plasma for Endeavour nerfed it a bit extra, I think either going with Endeavour default (XFCE) or GNOME would be more fair.
Not saying you shouldn't have used Endeavour, just call it "Endeavour".
I agree
Yeah, it's just like saying you are testing Debian while actually using Ubuntu.
Endeavouros default is no longer XFCE, they switched to KDE a few months ago
@@Kashim_oI did not know that, my live/installer USB is still using xfce.
Lmao going with Plasma gave advantage to KDE
Please do this test again after kernel 6.9 is released later this year!
Would be cool to see an intel vs AMD laptop comparison as well as desktop etc
windows losing in the read/write and other CPU tests can probably be chalked up to a couple things... mainly, linux dev hasn't focused on graphics cards quite as long as windows has, but also, windows is probably tying up a good chunk of the CPU and RAM bandwidth to compile and transmit every moment of your existence to Microsoft so they can sell it to advertisers
The main slow down is undoubtedly from Windows Defender, every action is being scanned and monitored by an anti-virus that none of the Linux distros have.
@@looncraz i am sure thats the reason
@@looncraz clamAV is installed on my system and realtime protection is on but it always says 0% cpu...
Good ole tin foil hat innit.
You will get better fps in linux because you cant figure out how to get your monitor to display at native resolution
If I'm completely honest as a Linux user of two years, the differences aren't that high right now between distros and Windows, but when I started using it there was a clear advantage for Windows in most things while Linux was behind or close behind, but right now this isn't the case and that speaks really good for Linux devs and distro maintainers
I have been exclusively on kde and macos for a couple years now. when I use windows i'm shocked at how clumsy the experience is, like system-wide freezes while explorer decides whether or not a network mount is viable
still bad support nvidia, flickering and other.
So you finally have workimg language switcher on linux after 20 years of development? I dont ask about multimonitor support, next 30 yeras and job done LOL
@@bobdouglass8010so shocking. Rare ass freezes when you do a super specific task, that linux is better at because its an ancient ass OS that still relies on terminal heavily.
It's just crazy how good is GNU/linux.
Great comparison, thanks for the video. However, if you are going to call EndeavorOS Arch Linux, you might as well call Ubuntu Debian ☺
I'm on Debian switching from Ubuntu. They're basically the same so I don't get your point.
Ubuntu is bloated as heck and uses snap, meaning dependencies dont get shared amongst packages. I guess thats about it@@fireninja8250
@@fireninja8250 same with endeavouros and arch
@@fireninja8250, most cases, yes. This video is a comparison of minor differences. It's entirely different. Also, KDE and gnome is a whole different thing, back when I used either of those, KDE was like giga slow.
If you enable the Ubuntu repo on Debian, you are basically using Ubuntu.
Would be interesting (and useful) to see the benchmarks in wsl.
wsl is a virtual machine, dude. Results are gonna be lower
@@theworldoffun8997 Obviously. But how much lower? How much worse than bare-metal linux? Can it beat native Windows for some of the poorer-optimized workloads? These are really Practical issues.
Honestly, just seeing a short or addendum would be nice, though I know it's not likely he sees this.
@@theworldoffun8997 wsl is not a virtual machine, wsl2 is.
@@adonnenit's alot lower. But on any quadcore laptop u can use any terminal application just fine on windows. Or learn powershell and use remmina for ssh.
@@BestSpatula wsl2 superseded wsl1, when people say "wsl" they are referring to wsl2.
Honestly, have been playing on linux for 2 years now and the situation is really improving, some games are implementing the linux compatible EAC (example For Honor) so all it's missing is some open source nvidia drivers
Even those are getting pretty good, didn't the nvk driver outperform official nvidia drivers on some stuff?
Those open-source NVIDIA drivers do exist! They've recently added support for Vulkan, and while there are still features missing, the project is making significant progress.
@@ShrootBuckiirc in some games it did by a few percent, nothing crazy though. Too bad initial support is for 16/20 series and higher, my poor 1060 is crying.
@@Timely-ud4rm I remember that we got them but are still at 60% performance on avarage, but at this point I can see them getting close to proprietary in 1-2 years
IS "GREEN LUMA " supported on linux? Also can we mod games in linux like skyrim, gta v etc?
Ubuntu did surprisingly well. Fedora and Arch are both running a lot newer kernel versions so I thought Fedora would beat Ubuntu in virtually every task since you didn't go for 23.10, but Ubuntu ended up getting a lot of Ws against Fedora!
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Is there a way to test for the most reliable or ‘available’ in terms of reboots needed, bsod’s or any type of outage, updates, etc?
I really appreciate that you used proper benchmarking software like phoronix test suite! I would appreciate more charts with numbers that have more significant digits. IE 1.244K vs 1.2K. The charts you generated did look nicer! Keep it up!
about the file copying test, I have a computer running Linux, and my laptop on Windows 11. And copying anything to / from my pendrive is faster than Windows, BUT, WITH ONE QUIRK. Idk why but in Linux, whenever I finish copying files to my pendrive, it takes some time when I try to eject it. But in Windows, as soon as the transfer is finished, I can immediately eject it.
So ultimately, In Linux, its transfer time + eject time. Where in Windows, its only the transfer time.
If anyone has any logical explanation for this please clarify.
The Linux kernel makes your file available at it's new location faster by moving most of the data and updating the filesystem, while in the background it's still moving the rest of the data (like from the USB to your hard drive). Why? Developer obsession. If you didn't want to detach the drive right away, you wouldn't notice a thing.
@iijj22gg What is "Developer Obsession"?
And it's this a bit misleading? Like it shows the copying is complete, but if you try to eject it, is says "Do not remove, writing data to usb". Why not just show the real speed in the first place?
I'm guessing the answer is "developer obsession", so, I'd be greatful if you clarify this term also.
@@SifatUllah-12 Basically the devs who worked on this were obsessed with storage management, to the point where people have made debatable decisions. Although to further clarify, an entirely different set of developers worked on the GUI app you used to drag and drop the file, and I've only seen one or two file managers with a lingering visual indicating the kernel is still cleaning up in the background.
Hint: When you copy stuff on windows and you click on "Fewer details" it will transfer faster, because it's not doing the caluclation for speed anymore.
GiB not the same as GB
I moved from win 10 -> win 11 -> Ubuntu -> fedora in a span of one week.Fedora is working smoothly for now.I did face some issues initially but it is fine now
great test, thanks for the work
what settings did you use for these? Both windows and fedora come with profiles which can heavily skew the results depending on what you're aiming for
Well done. All this extensive testing would have taken you ages.
on EndeavourOS installing using BTRFS automatically selects zstd disk compression and it will be the smaller install from that point forward (yes, zstd is great)
Awesome video, thanks.
What File systems and partitioning schemes did you use on the Linux installations ?
I use Fedora KDE variant and works nice for me + its installed on kingston sata SSD.
me too
Nice tube, would like to see some video encoding results in test like that. Especially if you will do N100 benchmarks.
I have been using Fedora for a month on my laptop. I am suprised at the battery performance of my laptop. When I close the lid the battery use to drain in a few hours but on Fedora, it doesn't drain and wakes up quickly on opening the lid again. Even when opening after 2 days, the battery has not dropped much. Similar to what I have seen on my M1 Macbook Air. Is this the same with other linux distros as well or only with Fedora ?
I installed Fedora 39 a week back. After setting up thr nvidia drivers, it is butter smooth, uses very less ram (2gb) as compared to windows 11 microwin (4gb).
im on nobara linux (fedora based) and it uses 1.3gb idle, which is sooo nice on my laptop with 8gb ram. windows took 4.5gb on the OEM install
On a 8gb laptop, using win11 is painful an extreme debloat still uses more gb of ram, compared to just a standart fresh install of GNU
went to actual arch linux on my laptop recently and with hyprland loaded it idles at 600mb of ram. Insane difference from windows 😂
@@Zerahu I just recently installed fedora on my laptop also did some light debloating, because half of the stuff in fedora really isn't useful, like calendar, software center, virtual machine, ibus extensions. And now my laptop uses a whooping 1gb of Ram, compared to always 2,5gb on a heavy debloat of windows. Even with firefox, just 2gb
@@MF2_ETaube nice man gotta love to hear it. Same with my system now, during workload with around 6-10 browser tabs open my system is chilling around 2-3G of ram which is so nice. Windows was maxxing out those 8gbs I got all the time. I used ubuntu for a couple months first though which also ran quite alright but arch is simply on something else ahhah
I have a tablet (nabu) that runs Windows 11 and Ubuntu 23.10 (both aarch64), so this video came in very handy 😁
What versions of the kernel did the 3 Linux machines have? If it is a new CPU, battery life should be better on new kernels.
Great video!🎉🎉🎉
great report
Interested to see these benchmarks, but with wsl2 included
4:12 have you cleaned old pacman packages on Arch based system?
He was wrong here as there is a big difference between GiB and Gb in terms of storage
Nice..
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What’s ur worst job lol
Right, like at least make sense lol
Great comparison. Wish you also do a side by side comparison with Linux Mint.
Why using Crafty instead of some other modern open source engine like Stokfish? The project has been abandoned a long time ago and very likely the code does not scale well on modern CPU or even older ones considering how much time has passed.
I'll note this for future benchmarking videos. Thank you.
@@TechHut No problem, asked out of curiosity! 👍
For arch, you can get a way lower space footprint if you install a more minimal initial packageset during the setup; e.g. just installing GNOME + base stuff, or plasma + base stuff - a base plasma system can take up less than 6GB in many cases. I have a feeling that using endeavouros may have also affected boot times significantly
Any ideas about why that render was nearly twice as fast on Fedora compared to Ubuntu?
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It's been busy! Content should pick up. Just graduated university.
@@TechHut Graduation is huge, congrats! You must be feeling so relieved from that. Looking forward to the future videos. I'm currently excited to test out the pop OS cosmic desktop when it comes out to beta.
Was core isolation disabled on win11? It lowers performace a lot
Yep and memory protection made Linux look faster
Would be interesting to see which filesystems the different Linuxes were installed to and if baremetal or LVM is used. I am sure this makes a difference in the test results.
What was the testing methodology? Did you repeat the tests at least 3 times for each OS?
Yes, I repeated tests for all the synthetic benchmarking. Also repeated the side by sides just to make sure there wasn't any abnormalities from the initial recording. I ran the geekbench tests three times and phoronix test suite does three runs and gives us the average. Computer had about 10 minutes of idle time between each benchmark.
It will take longer but you could consider calculating the storage of preinstalled programs to get a better picture of the size of the OS.
Copying in windows and linux is not the same. In Linux, the fact that the system shows copying completed does not mean that the process is finished. Even in the case of SSD, Linux still needs a few seconds in the background to save the cache. So unless you changed your configuration before the test, this one is not reliable.
I had the same experience. When windows says copying the file is done, it's done and device can be removed right away. But in linux systems it's still running in background for some reason. Until it properly finished user cannot safely eject the device.
@@nipunamarasekara607 It's even worse when we talk about moving files. The system erases files from the source before providing a write to the target. If the connection is interrupted during this time, the files are lost (excluding recovery tools from the source). And if you turn off the cache, copying takes forever. But the cache is not the problem, Windows also uses it, the problem is that the GUI does not know that the copying is still in progress, but it should be.
@@dreaper5813- I last used Windows in 2000 before I quit that job (they were still using NT, not 2000). Now, if a company makes it a requirement to use Windows, (barely metaphorical!) red flags and blaring sirens keep me on the right path.
@@dreaper5813 Which doesn't change the facts. The comparison of the copying process presented in the video makes absolutely no sense. In typical home use, Linux does not copy files any faster or better than Windows.
@dreaper5813 skill issue
May I know the device specs? At least I wanna know the battery capacity.
Do you run these tests more than one to get average
File transfer results not real. On Linux systems need "sync" command after copy/move because Kernel does not finished in background.
Anyone has any idea how to use linux when everybody is using windows in my company and i cannot use linux due to sharing same git repository. Problem is file permission and some naming in branches (capitalized naming) and windows users can have problems due to that. I tried mounting ntfs git drive but was a mess too.
Finally after a long time .
This video i always want ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉
mine fedora already has kernel 6.7.4 for few days ... i wonder when mesa 24 ?
Fedora battery life should improve even more next release when they transition from PPD to tuneD, and it might be getting x86 micro architecture levels (x64 v1/v2/v3) later down the line, similar to SuSE, for slightly better performance
But, why compare the LTS version of Ubuntu instead of just Mantic Minotaur vs Fedora 39?
For gaming who are the best? OS or distros
What is that usb with the removable nvme called?
I wonder if using endeavour xfce would make any difference 🤷♂
Interesting. I have Windows 11 and Fedora 39 in a dual boot setup, and Fedora certainly seems a bit snappier. I know that something is causing my 500 Mb internet to slow to a crawl in Windows 11, that didn't happen in Windows 10, and I have yet to pin it down (lots of users got a similar experience). Fedora has no such issue. As a matter of fact, somehow it gets a blistering 630 Mb/sec.
I use Arch (btw) and I get like 5 Tb/sec when it's cold outside, every other Friday I get even 10 Tb/sec, but only if my dog had already eaten. I've heard that a lot of other users get the similar experience even if they don't have dogs. Weird, isn't it?
@no-prophet I tried Arch (btw), and it gave my dog diarrhea, and he caught a case of Parvo, too, so I deleted that unholy satanic rectal exam distro and installed a more pleasant experience. Now my dog is feeling much better and actually behaves well. Wierd, huh?
I think you mean Mbps/MBps or something. ( If this was a joke i didn't get it, don't blame me).
@@NotSeggsySage correct. Sorry. Had multiple things going at a time. Brain fart...
I also noticed this when I wanted to choose my Linux distribution to replace Windows. I found the Fedora distribution particularly heavy and slow, I'm not sure why.
So, "finally", i switched to Debian 12 + Gnome. It's not too bad for the moment.
I other criteria than speed would make for a far more genuine benchmark
Another important measurement that was missed is how much RAM was occupied by system processes
exactly..
Surprising results for Ubuntu overall, I expected it to go last of the Linux distros
Not directly related to the video but I noticed you have a iMac behind you, may I ask what you use it for? Is it for proprietary software reason or something else?
I'm curious because I also love Linux but I always have to keep either a Windows or MacOS pc around to use some software that I really really need like Lightroom, the VSTs I use to record guitar in Reaper which also work as standalone amps on these os and so on.
Appreciated!
why u use endevaouros instead of arch?
Can you compare between CutefishOS vs Deepin ?
would be great to run the arch test in gnome so we can rule out slight performance differences between kde and gnome
I did a fresh install of EndeavourOS a few days ago on a 25GB partition (I chose GNOME over KDE, changed nothing else regarding packages) and mounted /home from another partition. Installed nothing since then, did one update of packages and my root partition right now sits at ~7,3 of 25 GB. So you can get away with way less space then the mentioned 45GB (converted from the free space in GiB).
What smartphone is that?
Graphics performance is going to be somewhat dependent on whether it's amd, intel or nvidia, and what application it is.
One test that would be interesting to see but would take a lot of time: power off laptop, wait one week, turn it back on and see how long it takes to install updates from the OS.
Windows might not have any updates at all (but Windows updates are annoying anyway), Ubuntu might have a few things, idk about Fedora. Arch would update like half the system lol.
@@iijj22gg Well, it's Arch's feature, so this comparison may be not a good idea to do
Why Windows has OpenGL and DirectX but Linus had only OpenGL? Aren't supposed to be there a vulkan too? ( Which performance better on linux that OpenGL )
I was going to say at the beginning of the video that the title must be changed, as EndevourOS is not Arch, and later on, it got confirmed in the tests.
great video
Boot speed test with systemd distros, nice
link to USB C pen drive please?
You should try the graphics test with unigine dx11 running under wine. That was significantly faster than native opengl when I tried it (~10%)
My main concern was always battery life on laptop being worse and quirks with Nvidia GPU swapping. How does Linux handle this nowadays? By test it seems superior, but I would appreciate any comments on that.
playing 10h 720p@30 fps video is NOT a battery test... 9 out of 10 times windows laptop battery will be much better, don't listen to these nonsense "benchmarks" about battery, strangely all these UA-cam videos about linux battery life are super strange and has nothing to do with real world
In the battery test looks like fedora was on lower volume than the others maybe helped with battery
Many of the tests like storage, battery and general performance can't really be measured on Endeavour OS to then say that its that way on Arch too because Arch is much less bloated.
I think booting up on windows is pretty fast fresh after installation, especially with just a few things installed. when you have it work ready, with office, maybe discord steam and things the booting takes a lot longer. this is my experience. i switched from windows to manjaro and arch btw after that and it made a huge impact. especially on bare arch. i used the same programs as in windows and my booting time went from almost 2min 30s to windows desktop to around 50 seconds. with the exception that when i am on the desktop in arch everything is loaded. an i could start right away. whereas in windows i have to wait a few minutes for it to be fully usable.
Oh yes I do notice - baseon my laptop:
- estimated battery life watching video - win - 1h30, Linux- 6h (I may have had some driver issues with windows as I compare it to your results, but my laptop has nvidia 😀)
- Updates used to restore all the bloat that I had carefully disabled and removed on windows - not happening on Linux
- If I want to quickly check something on a laptop I have not used in a month it does not give me forced updates and 1h wait until I see desktop on Linux 😀
- If I want to install something I do not need to browse internet for hours to find the small tool that does it.
I use arch (btw) with cinnamon on my laptop and i get into the gui in 20 seconds, this includes loging in to the CLI, launching the gui and logging into the gui
Cpu: Intel i5-1145G7 (8) @ 4.400GHz
I swap between windows 11 and Nobara (Fedora) both installed in separate SSD's. Every chance I have I am in Linux unless I absolutely need to do something in windows. Its laggier. slower to respond. Animations don't feel as fluid. Of course both are on same hardware and 240Hz screen. I consistently get errors or common windows issues doing things. I try to spend my time in Linux.
Nice but it's difficult to compare Linux Distros. Different desktop environments come with different amounts of bloat, packaging formats are different and so on. And I would argue most distros don't have a "default" configuration. You are free to chose your DE, and often Distro versions with more up to date packages and Kernels. On every Distro you can install Flatpak or Snap or native.
Pretty interesting video. I would like to see a comparation with Windows X-Lite (It´s a costume lite version of Windows)
I thought fedora 39 was on kernel 6.7?
I switched from win 11 to linux mint during christmas.
i7 7700HQ, 1070gtx in an HP omen laptop.
but I changed SSD and ram (from 512gb ssd and 16gb ram to 4tb ssd and 64gb ram).
so I cannot truly compare the two. I had a period of a bit over a month where I ran windows with 64gb ram, it worked better, and switching to linux + faster SSD just ramped up the speed again.
essentially, what I can say to everyone who wants to try: just do it, it isn't hard.
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I wonder what the results will be on FreeBSD...
Me too.
You need to disable memory protection in windows 11 to make it equal. It’s not fair as Linux doesn’t have this security feature
I think you should have also installed same Gnome on both arch and fedora
I switched from OSX and Windows to Linux as my work daily driver. There was a pretty noticeable increase in the speed applications would load and running especially using i3WM with very little bells and whistles.
Unfortunately, Linux isn't perfect as a work daily driver due to the amount of Windows/OSX products I have to use like Active Directory and Horos, but it's still nice to get away from Windows and OSX for a while.
Use Garuda Linux in latest version and keep updating it, Linux improves a lot with every updates
I love linux I want to use it for my daily driver on my gaming PC. The problem is I do not want to dual boot just to play VR games (i.e. play them well and see my desktop, another issue is I use OVR Space Calibrator for some tooling and that doesn't work on Linux) :(
Still while using them...windows feels more smoother to use & not able to customize touchpad gestures which is complete deal breaker for me on linux