Wubuntu, the Dubious Linux Windows
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Today we're installing Wubuntu on an early 2011 Macbook Pro. It seems like a modern day Lindows, allowing you to run Windows software on a Windows-like Linux, but can it live up to the developer's hype?
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Is that malware?
@@ThatOneGuy72381 What does that have to do with this questionable cleaner app?
Who asked?
total bullshit
I use Onyx personally
Michael's video is pretty comprehensive. The fun part is Wubuntu developer's response to the security mess.
what secuirty mess?
@@pazsionthe licensing info is sent in plaintext to a remote SQL server. Someone was able to get the connection string and read the entire database. When the wubuntu devs "fixed" it, they were very immature about it.
@@pazsionWubuntu had an insecure activation server that people could access if they had the knowledge, it turned out to have emails and ip addresses of people who had bought a full license of wubuntu, it was an absolute mess since thousands were affected iirc. The way the devs dealt with it was pretty hands off other then "they fixed it" and "companies have this happen all the time", which is NOT a good excuse.
Watch the Michael MJD video, you'll see! It's complicated. @@pazsion
@@pazsionLook at the video linked in the description.
"Shows you a bunch of bullshit ads, then crashes." Modern Microsoft in a nutshell.
me whenever I press the goddamn windows key
What crashes? Modern Windows is clearly robust. The inner hardware and/or drivers gotten on the other hand...
@@Mario583a shut up bill
He run windows 11 on what looks like a craptop from 2003 that doesn't meet minimum system requirements.
ah it needs a bit of tweaking and the correct win config y mean hidden do the complete setup after install you usually update the dam machine cause they definitely fixed bugs from the creation of the iso modern Users want that the pc operates like a smart phone but a smart phone is a virtual machine environment where each app it more like a decker container
I laughed so hard at how easy it was to bypass LinuxFX's security in Michael's video
so wubuntu is like ubuntu with a W?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was 'Winux' not available as a name then?
I think "Ubundows" sounds a lot cooler.
Whine Ucks. IDK.
That sounds like wabbit from the looney toons. 😁
UwUbuntu
someone needs to make the most cringe linux system ever created@@roland985
I believe that this is correct for at least all Ubuntu distros, but if you want to play Windows games you want to use the native Steam client. They have their own Proton compatibility layer that is primarily focused on gaming instead of regular system calls like WINE.
Windows intel apple, this guy = MAD !!!!
why you need him ??????
The $35 pro version really makes it the most realistic windows emulation ever🤣
I rather buy crossover, sure it's a lot more money but at least codeweavers contribute to the WINE project.
To be more accurate Wubz should offer a monthly subscription model too...
You can get a genuine windows key for $15 so why pay $35 for an imitation that doesn't work properly!
@@iamrocketray Perhaps, and there are better ways to help linux out as well.
The "Professional" version might be what kills them in a lawsuit
U need to make better driver, support todays hardware !
u need skills, why cry here, modern guy ?
ARM is not for you !
@@lucasrem I don't know what you're on about, but you're missing the point.
If they're copying the UI to the point where it could be considered like counterfeit Windows then *charging* for it, that's a problem
@@InfernosReaper It's like an A.I. responded to you, or someone that thinks like it. It makes no sense.
@@Axatron That assessment makes sense
@@InfernosReaper and with all that it can't replace Windows exactly as I said before Now the Easter holidays are coming and you're going to see the whole movie with Jesus Christ But the one you see on the screen saying it's Jesus Christ forget the cast it's an actor who embodies this character is also This program is just the mask of Windows 11 does not mean that it is windows 11 that's why I don't think that's the problem I think the problem is to attract shopping in the idea that eggs alternative to Windows 11 but better take where Windows 11 o license And you have the right system if you still have to buy professionally not a disguise of this kind that at first glance looks like Windows 11 But when you install Windows programs you have no way because it is not designed for running exe programs
tested this on all sides I also forgot in the video If I noticed well the person posting in the video also has some glitches when he tried to install two games I just wanted to install the vm tools so that it shows the correct resolution on the desktop on the display and I didn't succeed, I got errors, I can't copy even with drag in Drop, it doesn't even work to add a folder and I did that. Many times with other operating systems, it doesn't even work to add an external hdd, I get a blue screen on my car real when I connect in the virtual machine real external hdd on usb So if it is presented it gives a fix It is clear that you don't have to go with the bag A pair of pockets also arrive at the praised tree😀
Hey so fun fact the reason disk copies of hl2 require an install of steam is because they actually have to use steam to not only verify you own the game but to complete the install as well, as some vital files are actually excluded from the disks purposefully.
I figured this out the hard way. You do need a modern copy of steam and an account that has hl2 in its library to launch the game even with a physical copy.
atualy if you extract the orangebox disc and use a steam emulator you can play them from the disc alone, its just to force tou to use steam, althugh it will be some OLDER instead NEWEST version so lots the new features like achivements and some console commands will function diffrently or be missing entirly.
@@NightmareRex6 that's orange box specifically though. I had a copy of the original hl2 physical in box set and it literally didn't install all required files from disk and required the usage of steam to complete the install. As in critical files were not present in the folders they should have been in after just installing the disks.
Zorin OS also has a great Wine and GUI setup for new users. better than default wine
あっぷ
Zorin and Mint seem to be the best two out there on the Linux side... I am going to head that direction for my computers both mac and win as the hardware sunsets and convert the office computers over to it since we can do everything in the cloud from Opera Edge and in some cases FireFox. Most of our stuff is in the cloud. I have set up our own cloud storage off site so no evil services for files. I am tired of their money grabbing BS. I am slowly but surely putting them all out on their ass. THe next one to get taken to the woodshed is GoDaddy. Another evil empire.
missed opportunity to call it UwUntu
"This isn't gonna be cursed at all"
Bro that's at least 4 curses
you need clean my macX kid🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There are already Windows themes for KDE. The guy is just putting an iso together and charging for it.
I love those A1278 MacBooks. I genuinely believe they were some of the best chassis that Apple made. With some uh... questionable practices too, they can run Sonoma pretty decently, at least last I totally did not test it on a 2012.
I have a late 2011 that I recently restored with most of the internals of an early 2011 spares I bought online for cheap. In hindsight I should've gone with a 2012 spares, USB 3 and a barely better CPU is always appreciated. I ended having a mix of 2012 and 2011 parts on mine, the original motherboard sorta died and I got pissed since it's no longer a numbers matching device.
Agree, well made machines, well thought out design, even internally it is pretty good especially by today's standards.
@@freetobe3Agreed! I think the big thing is that you need to have the video card be able to run Metal, right? Would that include y'alls systems?
@@veccio Metal is only supported on the 2012 year model. My 2011 lacks it so it's a pain to have a stable install of a newer Mac OS. I've also noticed that Linux support for the 2012 is considerably better than the 2011 based on the newer tech standards built into the hardware even if performance is about the same.
I don't know how people can use those mirror screens with reflections everywhere.
MacBook pro running linux running windows is cursed
It gets even more cursed when the Linux system is designed to auto launch a VM with actual Windows 11 in it with complete PCI passthrough of the GPU so gaming performance is nearly native. xD
@@KentHambrock lol imagine if someone ran wsl onthat
@@Lynixity a mirror reflecting into mirrors that are themselves reflecting back into the mirrors going into different dimensions that all have mirrors inside more mirrors all reflecting themselves to each other.
@@KentHambrock wKwKwKw
@@Lynixity i was doing it for 2 years till i built my workstation :P
Zorin OS 17 is another option which has Wine preinstalled but is built to be an out of the box experience.
the middle finish sounds great to me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
7:15 They didn't do a "great job" of making Ubuntu with KDE look like Windows 11. They did a great JORB.
Looks more like they did a great JEEOOORGHHHBBB!
Is that you Hamstray? …ramrod?
Job…job…job…job….i just can’t say a word jorb. Omg love homestar runner…too much.
Dang, you beat me to it. I was going to do this with my older Mac mini. The irony of running Linux, replicating Windows, on a Mac, is just too funny not to try.
Don't, it's extremely shady and insecure
@@jarozlawus If that one thing we know about is insecure, how much else is there that we don't know? Wubuntu doesn't post their modifications to the Linux kernel or any other included open source programs, effectively making them proprietary (and thus a violation of the GPL).
@@jarozlawus Then what reason did the publisher have to not publish the modified source code? Why was its name changed from fxlinux after it was in a somewhat unrelated controversy?
Something about it stinks and it should not be trusted. Throw it in a VM if you're really that curious.
@@paxalotin We can't know if any of these have been modified because the source code hasn't been published. Plain and simple.
@@paxalotin Oh, it's already running Mint. I was just going to do this as an experiment, same as Action Retro did.
you absolute madman!
you really did combine the whole OS competition into 1 package...
that's one way to get lawsuits from multiple companies...
But it needed to include Nintendo for absolute maxed out lawsuit potential.
unfortunately bsd like is missing for a complete picture
@@musicalneptunian WinTendows
Oh, wow, they mimicked the experience down to taking your money and making you enter an activation key!
Talk about dedication.
They also mimicked the profit motive. 😆
Great video. I've seen the video you mention. Concerning. I've got the early 2011 i5 MacBookPro. I didn't realise there was a i7 version, or I'd forgot. Is it a larger model? Mine is the 13 inch. I run Linux Mint on it.
Wubuntu is a result of the Jurassic Park scientist phenomenon where they didn't stop to think if they should........ and they definitely shouldn't have.
"Friends don't let friends use Windows."
-- Unknown
This really is a crazy shenanigans moment
windows 11 is asking a lot of questions and crashed while wubuntu just works🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh? Did somebody declare Shenanigans? I'll have to go get my broom...
Linux Mint is less bloated than that
neat
On time I took a screenshot of Ubuntu desktop and made it the desktop background image of my work PC. The IT lady wasn't amused when she came to my computer to do something.
😂
A buddy of mine sat down at his friends computer, took a screenshot of the desktop, deleted all of the screen icons, removed things such as the clock, and made the screenshot into the background image.
Windows on Linux!? Windows Linux on a Mac!? What has the world come too!?!?
Just an FYI, the "LinuxFX" that this is a sister project to, Seems to infringe on the trademark of "3DFX";
the guys behind the Voodoo Graphics Cards, The GlideFX graphics API and such.
And owned by nvidia
Possibly, although I think it would be a stretch. There a several products that contain FX in their naming, most notably AMD cpus.
@@kbm2055No, Look at the Logos. The orange swish on top.
@@SimonJ57Yeah I see what you mean.
X Org's logo has some similar design elements. Then again, these guys are infringing on several companies, so I wouldn't be surprised.
First time I've ever seen this man. He says, "This isn't going to be cursed at all." Instant love ❤😆🤣🤣🤣
They allegedly leaked their customer personal information database. They may be violating both Canonical's and Microsoft's trademarks and some IP. They are taking a very good, functional, safe OS and making it look like a competitor OS which has none of those qualities. What's not to like?
i like linux as much as the next guy but ive definitely had at least as many weird hardware and software issues on linux as windows, so for all of windows faults idk if id say linux is functional where windows isnt
The whole "professional activation key" thing are very stupid because it's against the main goals of most Linux community
Also fun fact, if you install Wine in any Linux distros, it would perform exactly the same as Windows
@@sihamhamda47 The theoretical point of this thing is bundling Wine and a Windows theme as well as some apps into one bundle that installs together to provide a seamless experience to someone who is used to Windows and has no intentions to get involved with Linux.
I still think there's a market for a windows distribution with the classic windows 95/98/2000 look
and will run fast to a lot, lot faster, you should try windows 3.11 even only in a emulator like dosbox, , it can got on to a fully working desktop 10 second or less on, and read run an application or game, and for more lesser mortals, micosoft office 97, still does everything the most up version function's ever get taxed to do?
WinXP is still used at businesses...
Win7 is still used by gamers.
@@ynraider: That's true, except for the few businesses that haven't gotten around to upgrading from Windows 3 yet. 😆
Very interesting video. I have used Ubuntu for a few projects, installing on machines that I could no longer get Windows installed with its needing a key for just getting it running. Wubuntu sounded interesting from your video, but the analysis given in your video proved sound.. I will have to try "Wine" addition on my Ubuntu machine next.. Thanks
Very entertaining video, _as always_ 🤠
they did it and got 35 dollars out of him for the pro version🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue: If enough people clicked on the advertisements, then that $35 will be more than covered. 😆
is there a Windows version of the Xbox app or Movies and TV apps. I have heavily invested in digital movie purchases and would only be interested in this if I could play my digital movies on the Wubuntu OS
Heh, had a bit of a déjà vu moment when you used Driver to test out Wine: trying to find a copy of that exact game is how I got "introduced" to Linux in the first place, many years ago, because I gave my computer a virus, and all I had as far as an OS install media went was an Ubuntu 9.04 live CD I'd made a few days previous out of curiosity. Ended up falling in love with Linux, and it helped further my love of computing as a whole.
Hahaha i love that shirt "The button says Sorry?!?! Am i confirming that i'm sorry? Or that they're sorry?!"
@actionretro I really hope you were behind a VPN when you made that $35 "donation"...
He made a purchase using what I presume to be Paypal. No matter what payment method you use bar Monero they're going to get some information about you. That kind of software doesn't encrypt and protect your data. It just funnels your data through another server. If Virtual Private Networks actually did what they said they do, they'd be illegal globally.
Thank you (and your Mac) for the run thru. I'll take your advice and just go with Ubuntu and Wine.
Thanks, interesting video!)
Interesting. I just run Linux Mint with Windows 7 in a virtual machine.
Hi I was wondering if you have ever done a computer collection / room tour. It would be so cool to see all your computers!
I'm going to get heat for this but I'm watching this on Edge for Linux.
This distro is a true chaos agent. Installing it on a MacBook is just icing on the cake.
Please do not advertise or Condone Wubuntu. It's a Linux distro developed by a shady developer that has a history of negligent security practices and questionable marketing.
Not only that, Wubuntu is a rebrand of "LinuxFX" and "WindowsFX". Allegedly, this rebrand was meant to restore the distro's reputation and to cover up past actions.
This distro is also technically proprietary and the developer of it refuses to provide any source modifications that he's done. Proprietary distros are definitely not the way to go about installing Linux as a first timer.
Michael MJD did a video on this.
🤓🤓
I’ll skip this one because of that
Good thing he did neither
Glad somebody said this
The "Cursed machine" line cracked me up. Great video!!!
Piracy meets parody 🎉🪶🪶🪶🪶🪶🪶🪶
Love how your default go-to windows machine for comparison is the ugliest laptop with worst screen that I've ever seen on windows laptops.
Do you have any experience with ReactOS? Quite a neat (and niche) opensource project recreating the windows OS from the ground up (they're not on 11 yet ..).
@@paxalotinactually its more on par with windows XP (although react has the stability of 9x)
A lot of older games don't install or run properly even on Windows 11 without work arounds and tricks to get them working right.
...then that means WINE is getting things right.
"This isn't going to be cursed at all". 🤣🤣
My first time to this channel, and now I'm wondering what took me so long!
Funny fact: I watched this video on my pc running linuxfx v10. It is another, older version of linux but with a windows 7/10 like interface. Runs like a dream on my 10 year old i5. Thanks for making this video!
Thanx for the video. Pity you didn't try to install M$ Office 365. > I'd be curious to see how far you got with it.
Babe wake up new Action Retro dropped
Would this work on a Raspberry pi? I have a 3b here I should use.
But did those old windows games install and run in genuine win11
One of the side projects I had was skinning a ubuntu-gnome 22.04 LTS based terminal/RDP server to "look" like windows. I basically did this because windows licensing is obscene and just getting the familar icons and such in place for people to feel "comfortable" is usually the goal. Needed a basic terminal server a half-dozen people could log into and navigate well enough to use some developer tools and libreoffice. Nobody is really going to think this is "windows" but stuff is in the right place for them to be able to do work without much of a transition.
Took about two hours to set up.
Wubuntu looked like a huge waste of time.
An excellent experience for gaming is Nobara linux. I installed it on my acer x13 and have been very happy with it. It also has the benefit of having all the drivers I need to run stuff and fairly compatible too.
Notice were they put the across thing in the item tray it's on the right instead of the left like windows 11 has it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Okay but can it run Adobe Premiere Pro, fractal design painter, Cakewalk sonar, and several other windows specific applications used for cad?
Are there any Linux OS that look like Windows 98? (But function and supports modern programs). Thank you!
Does Driver even works on actual Windows 11?
Man this was super helpful. I have been waiting for a good linux that would be like windows, and compatible with certain softwares like autodesk, microsoft office, etc for work and home use. this STILL does not look like it is all there yet. but is getting closer! Hopefully someone gets it figured out because i am getting real fed up with microsoft and will not go to apple either!!! Thanks for another awesome video!
And here I am using the Cairo desktop extension for windows to make my windows look like macos/linux
we're up to a good start, installing a linux distro that looks like windows on a macbook, what can go wrong? lmfao!
On the install of HL2, I think if you scrolled down to the botttom of the terms and conditions it would have enabled you to tick Agree and continue.
While i do give props to wine for the work they do, in a more "pragmatic" tangent i can't see the point unless you're going all out to make it a "windows clone" like ReactOS does. Virtualization will always be more "app friendly" and games will always be a PITA no matter what, even on real (modern) Windows.
With wine there were lots of advantages in research and lot of stuff came of it. Like all the stuff valve did
Hey, maybe you haven't encountered this, but some installers won't let you click "Accept" on the Terms unless you actually scroll the window down to the bottom of the text. You definitely should have tried that with the Steam installer for Half-Life.
Lindows, I even have CD with that :) blast from the past
Don't know how the 2011 Macbook Pro, but a 2012.5 maxxed to 16GB ram is a great candidate for Opencore modded Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma and runs it well (finally got an 802.11ac wifi broadcom card modded into it).
I just wish that was easier to install. After the third reboot in the instructions my mind just went blank and I decided to stick with 10.15 on my 2012.
I just installed a Linux Mint XFCE 19 ISO on a 2006 Macbook. Didn't want to figure out how to modify a more recent version.
Charging people for Ubuntu with a customized KDE desktop and Wine installed. I dig the hustle.
Oooh- Boon- Too is the correct pronunciation. The letter U gets the OOH sound every time.
So it's Ooh Boon Too not Yoo Bun Two
How does LMDE run on older hard ware vs new , like how far back can you go before it becomes pointless ?
To be fair, a standard installation of Driver will also crash on Windows 11. And you have to run the config.exe first.
If the config.exe does not recognize your GPU you can't start the game. There are fan patches for this, but it's a real pain in the butt.
It's hardly the most likely use case either. I'd have tried Office 365 and other current apps.
What sick individual ported edge to any other platform?
Microsoft, It's on Mac too.
Why let Windows users have all the, "fun"?
I just took this exact same Early 2011 MacBook Pro 13" and installed Chrome OS Flex on it, it was dead simple to do. It might make a good video. I'd say mine is the nicest $50-value Chromebook you can buy (especially since I put a brand new battery, an SSD, and 16GB of RAM in it!)
Will this run on an m1 mbp?
Lindows, that bring back memories. Kinda like Lycoris Desktop LX
Thank you for the insight of this broken distro, I have not tried it yet but something tells me that SteamOS would probably be a better bet for trying a lot of Windblows programs on Linux (I'm now going off to try this idea)
You had to scroll down all the way to the bottom. Then, the option for the "I accept" and "I do not accept" should become available! DeJa Vu???
Im actually quite a fan of Pop!OS, id recommend trying it on some older hardware.
It has impressive driver and windows application/game support.
The UI would be very easy for even a novice to use with a very mild learning curve.
"Mount and open the CD rom" Awww shucks that's adorable.
I like that not only they are selling a Pro version of this as Windows does, but as MJD said in his video, they also copied the lack of clearence about what you get buying the Pro version, just like Windows.
Would it work on a macpro 1.1
Do you think it will run the current Discord app for Windows? (asking for a friend)
Can you game on it on a high end desktop ?
I think for something that mimics the look, this derivate looks nice.
Just wish these themes would just go through as scripts people can purchase and apply to their regular Kubuntu versions in that case as it'd save much time even on the dev's side.
Wine is the thing tho which makes you notice how poorly things work under the hood for a Windows11 experience.
It's funny how the most shit meme version of linux is still better than windows 11
It would be curious to revisit it in a year to see if it's gotten any more reliable. If it lasts that long.
how did u even make it boot from CD? mine is hanging on an error
Hey. That's the same MBP in ran for 10+ years. Sadly, the battery swelled. And then the iFixit battery swelled, too. And without a battery, MacOS throttles the CPU to 700MHz. Now I'm on a Framework.
I don't understand the drive to replicate Windows in Linux. Once you get beyond the desktop, it's very different and will suddenly confuse users.
That's why i love Ubuntu. It doesn't try to be windows, it's its own thing and perfect for the keyboard warrior.
Their selling point of 'Windows 11 familiarity' which evidently is MS Edge, Teams, OneDrive made me ????????. Like who thought that was the good part about Windows?????
@@tai2691997 It's the apps that Joe Average needs/has been forced to use. Edge is similar enough to IE to be perceived as "the internet".
A much more interesting test than running it on fairly old hardware and installing old games would have been installing it on a new-ish system and running things like Office 365. That being said, if Wubuntu has massive security issues, you might just as well go straight for the original unless your hardware won't let you run that. I can definitely see the use case though, people who have learned some very basic computer skills by heart and blackout panic if anything looks slightly different than what they're used to. On the other hand, switching from Windows 10 to 11 would be massively difficult for them as well, so they'd probably continue using 10 for as long as they can. Or Windows 8 or 7 as long as no one stops them.
Well people like familiarity, I mean Ubuntu's main desktop is nothing like the Windows UI and can alienate potential new users.
For me a distro like Linux Mint is a better choice as while yes it emulates the windows look it's still different enough to stand out.
@@themadoneplays7842 I can see that. To me, the Gnome desktop is more like a mobile phone desktop - which can be more familiar to people nowadays than the traditional desktop metaphor. In my experience, most of my friends could be satisfied with a Chromebook, which is a great combination of a browser-centric desktop metaphor.
I guess my main beef with slavishly copying the Windows desktop is that the illusion falls apart once you get past opening programs. I agree that a MATE or Cinnamon desktop provides familiarity but doesn't try to delude you into thinking you're using Windows.
Why copying windows when we know windows is crap?
Is it 2nd (or even 3rd) iteration of Lindows?
"A Mac running Linux that looks like Windows 11" very much sounds like a Michael MJD machine. XD
If i can move the taskbar on right of screen i definitely switch from w11 to wubuntu!
This makes me want to experiment with Wine again. Wubuntu seems like a very good wine gui.
I'm kinda amazed this janky thing is coming here from Brazil 🇧🇷
Oh boy...
As a fellow Brazilian, I ain't. Sadly, lazy cash grabs are kind of a tradition around these necks of the woods.
Hope they got the right color blue for the blue screen of death.
For a true cursed experience run "Windows 12" in a VM running on Wubuntu on a Macbook.
will it work with old 32bit systems
I would cry if my Arch Linux looked like Windows 10-11.
12:45 Probably this installed was made in Finland
We def. need a more advanced wine replacement. Maybe smoothie or Tea would do. I'd call it Box, or Winbox.