Awesome! Really informative! There isn't much content on this topic on UA-cam, so major respect to the creators. Looking forward to more videos from Iryston (Ossetia)!
Hey man thank you so much for this full and accurate review, quite fascinating how you divide in the history of Caucasus and yet pinpointed the most important questions of your topic!
Very beautiful pieces & I am personally very grateful that you made this video. I started studying/training in Cuacasian martial art many years ago & since then I have started making Qama as well as trying trying to educate others about them, Caucasian culture etc. Obviously my work is still not on the level of the masters of old but they are pretty good in my opinion. I will be doing a video showcasing my latest piece soon. Hopefully it is up to standard. Thank you.
Very interesting, thanks. I would suggest that you show each dagger in a closeup from tip to butt, both sheathed and drawn, pointing out the names of various features. I was hoping that you would mention the reason and purpose of the protruding studs on the handles. Were they strictly decorative or did they serve some function(s)? Are they intended to facilitate a certain technique? Great cultural explanations on your part.
Thank you for your response. Since I'm not professional youtuber something coud have been done better in this video) Theese studs keep different parts of the handle assembled, this is the first reason. And the second reason is that pin closest to the blade serves as a support for your thumb when you work with a dagger. I will cover this issue in future videos.
As I see, you are intrested person and have a knowledge about the topic. So if you have intresting ideas, share it with me. I dont promise I would provide frequent updates, but I would.
Great video! I enjoy learning about the history of traditional knives and weapons of various people around the world. Thank you for the information. Do you know if there is a business in your region that makes good quality qama for sale online?
If the blade is drawn, it will be thirsty, and must be quenched with blood before it can be sheathed. I distinguish between removing a blade from its sheath and drawing a blade from its sheath. Removing the blade from the sheath is for showing or maintenance purposes, whereas drawing a blade from its sheath means you are intending to put it to work.
@@GavTatu The owner cutting his own hand before sheathing it if it was drawn with imprudence, as it had to taste blood before going back to it's sheath.
@@Caucasian_nobilityI would say the arab daggers and the Caucascan and Balkan daggers and by extension some mediaeval European daggers and dirks all have their origins in the ancient Mediterranean daggers in the style of the dagger used by Roman troops and before that many other cultures. The wide blades, the phallic handles, sometimes decorative rased pins on the grip, the ridges or fullers. These features all seem related to some common weapon ancestry going back to the bronze age. Daggers neatly vanished from Europe as the Germanic people didn't use them and yet the phallic handled dagger re-entered Germanic Europe from the Mediterranean in the early mediaeval period and became the baselard daggers and merged with the seax knife to become bollock daggers .. and ultimately the Scottish dirk. Reintroducing an ancient style of knife again. I think wearing daggers is a specificity near eastern/Mediterranean customer that is an early bronze age cultural thing that's never quite died out. Even the Romans who shunned wearing arms in public had a custom of wearing very decorated small daggers as did the Etruscans before them and so did many anitolian groups before them too.
If I'm not mistaken the qama's design takes much of it's design from the Roman gladius as it travelled East carried by former Caucasian mercenaries that served as auxiliaries in the Roman Army.
The English term for this kind of weapon is "dirk". There were daggers like this in The scottish highlands that similar cultural connotations and were called dirks. In earlier times the bullock dagger was worn in both England and Scotland. It had a role a bit like the later dirk and earlier seax in that it was a general symbol of a freeman. But unlike the dirk, seax, and Caucasian dagger it wasn't something you absolutely had to have on your belt.
Carrying of weapons was always a distinctive feature of free man, but the intresting thing is that even a majority of peasant in the North Caucasus wore daggers on ones belts, as we see it on old photos.
@xoxag2728 I can certainly understand the reasoning. Social cohesion is a lot easier to achieve when sidearms are ubiquitous. Especially if the value of defending not just one's own honor and physical well being, but also that of the people around you, is instilled at a young age. It also helps prevent criminal underclasses from gaining significant power over the general public, in addition to discouraging petty violence.
Hi! Could you please comment on the traditionally short handle lengths and how were these daggers gripped and used. The ones I have seen had handles so short that I do not understand how they were used. Thank you.
Yes, it's a common confusive moment, when one is unfamiliar with this type of handle. The correct grip on the handle is similar to how you would hold a screwdriver with your palm resting on it and your thumb resting on the rivet closest to the blade.
@@MaliMeho-v5m ua-cam.com/video/Z9SPRGfDiro/v-deo.html in this video at 13:40 correct handling of a dagger is shown. Use captions. I will cover this issue in future videos.
Could you mention some of the different names for these daggers in different Caucasus languages? .. qama is a word of turkic/mongol origin. As i understand there is also many varied local names for this weapon. Also very good video, your english is good, can you make other videos on the Caucasian weaponry you have?
Throughout the Caucasus it is called qama, but long cavalry swords are called different ways in different languages. I'll provide some other videos about weaponry and other issues related to caucasian culture.
Very interesting. I’ve often heard the term “kindjal” when referring to knives of this style. Is that correct? I have a curved dagger of the style you demonstrated. It is referred to as a 1916 Artillery dagger. It is stamped 1916 & has a stamp from the Tula arsenal. I also have a Shashka which has brass loops on the scabbard to carry a M91/30 bayonet. The daggers that you exhibited are very handsome & well made. Can you describe the organization of the establishment that manufactured these weapons? What other cutlery items would they have produced?
"Kindjal" is a word of Persian origin, which was adopted to russian language and they call all double edged knives that way. In the North Caucasus we call it "qama". Weapons which were produced in factories in Russian Empire for the army were less delicate in tecnique and style. Daggers handcrafted by Caucasian masters are much more beautiful, of course. It is another approach to weapon.
@@Caucasian_nobilityhi. Kindjal is a Mongolian word from "chinjaal" a double edged dagger. it is related to Kazakh/Turkic words "kanjar" or "kama" and is introduced to to Persian and arabic from the Mongols and the Turkic nomads. I suspect even the indian word "kataar" has Turkic or mongolic roots as do many indian terms for weaponry for that matter. In Georgian the native word for dagger has been replaced by the Mongolian word long ago and daggers are "kinjali" as I recall. Most people in the middle east, central Asia, Russian realms including Siberia, Balkans and parts of India seem to use either a Turkic or mongolic term for this weapon, both of which have the same turko-mongol origins - "kama" or kinjal/khanjar. But these Caucascan languages have native names for these weapons too.. in Chechen is called a "shailta" .."шаьлта".. in Armenian .. an Indo-European language related to Ossetian and Persian still retains its native term for daggers- "dashuyn" in Lak language if I recall is "khharzhan". To add to this it is curious because at least in artwork and description neither the Mongols nor the Turkic nomads before them were very fond of daggers.. at least in artwork we can see. But the Indo-European Scythians loved the dagger as part of their attire. It's curious these terms have spread profusely from Mongolian and Turkic. It may be the case they did in fact like can carry daggers and we are simply missing it from history. Just as the Mongols and Turkic people also used iron darts, throwing clubs and one handed flails but artwork mostly misses these and yet these were very common weapons used by every nomad horseman.
Hello, I love caucasian swords. I found some years ago in one weapons shop in Italy two original kindjal swords like yours: one with blade plus minus 30 cm long, the other with blade plus minus 50 cm long, like a gladio. Both with big signs of fight. Age from 18° or 19° century. By
Hi. Thank you you for your response. There are several caucasian daggers are exibited in Stibbert museum in Florence. Did you remember what exact shop it was? It might be intresting to find it
@xoxag2728 yes, but was total casual: this daggers was part of a collection that was sold. I was very luky to find them. This is a shop for guns and rifles, half of tgem from ww2. Maybe this two daggers was of cosacks: I don't know the history. They are very beautiful swords.
I'd say it's a sharpened piece of steel, and the only reason to draw it is if you want to cut something with it. Pulling it out to stick someone might be considered very, very rude.
Only Kuban and Terek Cossacks dressed in Caucasian style, they picked this up during the long wars they took part in in the region, as they were busy in these wars and as there were much less of them than Don Cossacks they mostly didn't directly influence the west with military service. Rather Cossacks were already famous for their role fighting Napoleon (again mostly Don Cossacks) so dance and horse trick riders who saw lots of work in circuses usually played up that they were Cossacks (most were actually Georgians or other Caucasian people's, but westerners were interested both in their dress and Cossacks and so Cossacks wore their dress so it was a decent way of drawing curiosity and large audiences, indeed if actual Cossacks did ever find themselves abroad or were visited by westerners they were invariably asked to dance or do trick riding, most probably could (as they were recreational practices among them and many other surrounding peoples) but it is typically that this as the main interest when encountered what were soldiers. It's like tourists who think Royal Guardmen are Disneyland type actors and not combat troops in ceremonial uniform. A curved version of these was issued to support and Siberian troops in the Russian army, which I have unfortunately seen misattributed many a time as cossack weapons, shashkas (?) and from the wrong century, I have a book that managed all three in one. Kuban Cossacks not only wore these but were noted to like them in silver and to look quite ridiculous after covering themselves with sword, dagger, rifle, pistol, several belts of ammunition and all sorts of cartridge boxes and different belts, worse if they decided that if they could get their hands on multiple they should wear them, luckily we don't have any photos of people quite that excessive. During the Russian civil war swords and daggers were used, and quite a lot as the White army had serious supply problems, they were effective as well as cavalry were extremely dangerous to poorly motivated conscripts on open steppe, against well organised and led veterans, of course the soviets already had a bone to pick with them and would make it a long term mission afterwards to wipe them all out, part of the famine policy was most certainly directed as them as their regions were the greatest concentration of requisition and fatalities, and it largely succeeded, they are more of an identity group than a people these days and attempts to change that have only seem limited success so far, despite some state backing (though conditional, and not on conditions that probably help, overt state control historically was not successful in creating cossacks to fit state needs, and yes the tsarist state took random serfs and merchants and told them to be Cossacks now, strangely enough those people did not want to become cavalry and go fight border raids for practically no financial benefit, implanted Cossacks on the other hand did fine).
I don't quite understand the main point of this interesting passage, but it has no direct relation to the topic. For me, as for many Caucasians, the Cossacks are a group by whose hands the empire colonized the lands. A Cossack is a synonym for the tsar's scourge, as they remain today. Despite the fact that after the conquest of the Caucasus, many Caucasians also served in Cossack units. Which changes nothing.
The dagger makes sense. Caucasian people all the way to Scotland carried daggers. The Scots call it a Dirk. The English and the Nothmen carried daggers in the dark ages. I think a dagger is useful for stabbing but I carry a leaf spring knife which looks more like a steak knife because I cut wood, branches, weeds, vines, meat, bread, and packaging with it. However, when I made it, I kept a long and narrow point on it so I can poke somebody who needs to be poked. White people from India to Tartarstan, and Spain to the Americas are Caucasians. I have lived in the Rocky Mountains, The Sierra Nevadas, and The Appalachian Mountains. Mountains are why we won't be erased from the earth. Flatlanders get overrun by hordes and get their DNA rearranged.
Not to draw a dagger unless you mean to draw blood is a common myth around many types of dagger, personally I have heard the even more questionable(\total BS) myth of having to cut yourself because you drew it attributed to the kukri, Dirk, Scottish sock knife (which in fact is a myth itself) and Japanese daggers. The reality is that they are tools and will be used if needed, they might have symbolic significance, but not enough to stop them from being a practical item.
Every myth contains a bit of mith, but if we take into account specific enviorenment of the Caucasus of pre-state age, I would not say it was a fary tale to impress ladies. Deffinitely, a threat of using weapon leads to consequense even now. If we are talking about society where every man was armed and grown to combat, it was very reasonable, wise, and useful rule. We are known about described and documented stories where feuds between families had been lasting for decades or even centuries and causing declining of branches. So, mutual limits for violense was the only mean for establishing order.
Well, yes, it is clear that the Cossacks have nothing of their own, just as they appropriated the famous tour of Georgian (Gurian) horsemen in America.... and as for Caucasian weapons and not only, the center of their production and distribution was Tbilisi with its workshops, various styles and technologies with famous craftsmen and shopping arcades.... the Russians store everything they stole in the St. Petersburg Hermitage, the rest is blah blah blah...
@@Caucasian_nobility its not quite different. North and south have many similarities. Daggers and swords are for example the same. The towers are the same. The clothes are the same
Not true at all really, the Russians did adopt heavily from surrounding nations but many of the similarities with Georgia are Ottoman Turkish influences rather than direct and the most explicit similarities were prior to the Russian occupation of Georgia, such as armour designs. Architectural similarities are either because both were orthodox nations steeped in Byzantine fashions and tastes or neo-classical stuff the Imperial Russians imported from the west and then build all over the empire like the soviets built concrete blocks. The Cossacks were not exactly Russian, they were an estate, but also a people with prior history and their own identities, social structures, dialects, culture and political systems, they were integrated into the imperial state but calling them Russian implies they had anything beyond some ethnic roots with other Russians (and not only were not all of them slavs, most were maternally heavily mixed with Tartar, and other steppe people's, as the Cossacks proudly took part in many steppe traditions like cattle, horse and bride stealing, this is why they were used as settlers, they gave as good as they got and were fine with living in a warzone). Only the Kuban and Terek Cossacks adopted Caucasian dress and customs, the Kuban ones got it off the circassians and not the Georgians and the Terek Cossacks probably got it off the Chechens, they were in those regions. Other Cossacks (so most Cossacks) did not live in the Caucasus and were much less influenced though they did adopt the shashka most would continue to place priority on the lance and steppe traditions. As for Russians as a whole the Caucasus were mostly influential on young gentleman officers seeing some short action, professional soldiers as a formative experience, poets (usually those young gentlemen) and the craftsmanship of silver items. The Russians were rather more obsessed with imitating the French, Austrians and English but even in those cases it all ended up rather Russian. This just seems like historical grievances, but the fact is that to a giant empire Georgia had much less influence on it than it had on Georgia, which is kind of what made it an occupation and not a union or however the Russians would have framed it.
Hey, friend, learn the history a little bit, it's been the Ukranian cossaks who were ordered to go settle the malaria swamps and exterminate the local population. Сходи в музей адьігеи, дядя, подумай русский ли тьі
Awesome! Really informative! There isn't much content on this topic on UA-cam, so major respect to the creators. Looking forward to more videos from Iryston (Ossetia)!
Thank you. Stay tuned)
Excellent weapons, appreciate you sharing them. The child’s dagger is too cool.
Hey man thank you so much for this full and accurate review, quite fascinating how you divide in the history of Caucasus and yet pinpointed the most important questions of your topic!
Thank you for your response🤝
Congrats for the video in English! Hopefolly you'll continue. Unfortunately there is little qualitateive information regarding Osetia in English.
Very beautiful pieces & I am personally very grateful that you made this video. I started studying/training in Cuacasian martial art many years ago & since then I have started making Qama as well as trying trying to educate others about them, Caucasian culture etc. Obviously my work is still not on the level of the masters of old but they are pretty good in my opinion. I will be doing a video showcasing my latest piece soon. Hopefully it is up to standard. Thank you.
Thank you for your response
i would love to hear more about caucasian history, it is very interesting and here in western europe not much is known
I enjoyed the education. Thank you.
It is great to see a fellow North Caucasian to represent our cultural materials to the world. Cant wait to see more content from you!
Thank you bro. I can not promise it will be very frequent, but it will
وعليكم السلام ورحمه الله وبركاته
احب المحتوى وخصوصا ما قلت عن مبدأ عدم استعمال الخنجر الا فى الضروره وهو من مبادئ الاسلام
...VERY nice!!!😀
Stunning. Thank you for sharing.
Don't pull the dagger unless you intend to use it . Wisdom people need to learn today. Handcrafted one of a kind piece of art. Thank you
Thank you for your response.
Wow! Those are some beautiful blades👍
Wonderful thankyou!
Very interesting, thanks. I would suggest that you show each dagger in a closeup from tip to butt, both sheathed and drawn, pointing out the names of various features. I was hoping that you would mention the reason and purpose of the protruding studs on the handles. Were they strictly decorative or did they serve some function(s)? Are they intended to facilitate a certain technique? Great cultural explanations on your part.
Thank you for your response. Since I'm not professional youtuber something coud have been done better in this video)
Theese studs keep different parts of the handle assembled, this is the first reason. And the second reason is that pin closest to the blade serves as a support for your thumb when you work with a dagger. I will cover this issue in future videos.
More videos in English would be great, most information on these topics is not available to English speakers.
As I see, you are intrested person and have a knowledge about the topic. So if you have intresting ideas, share it with me. I dont promise I would provide frequent updates, but I would.
Fantastically interesting, a really great talk!
Great video! I enjoy learning about the history of traditional knives and weapons of various people around the world. Thank you for the information. Do you know if there is a business in your region that makes good quality qama for sale online?
If the blade is drawn, it will be thirsty, and must be quenched with blood before it can be sheathed.
I distinguish between removing a blade from its sheath and drawing a blade from its sheath. Removing the blade from the sheath is for showing or maintenance purposes, whereas drawing a blade from its sheath means you are intending to put it to work.
sounds a little like the Ghurkhas and their kukuris.
Bullshit
@@GavTatu The owner cutting his own hand before sheathing it if it was drawn with imprudence, as it had to taste blood before going back to it's sheath.
@@chapiit08 thats the one.
Great exclusive insights thanks for sharing.
Looks very much like the Roman Gladius, only thinner and longer.
I'd agree with you, with one exception, the dagger is more designed for stabbing than for cutting hit
@@Caucasian_nobilityI would say the arab daggers and the Caucascan and Balkan daggers and by extension some mediaeval European daggers and dirks all have their origins in the ancient Mediterranean daggers in the style of the dagger used by Roman troops and before that many other cultures. The wide blades, the phallic handles, sometimes decorative rased pins on the grip, the ridges or fullers. These features all seem related to some common weapon ancestry going back to the bronze age. Daggers neatly vanished from Europe as the Germanic people didn't use them and yet the phallic handled dagger re-entered Germanic Europe from the Mediterranean in the early mediaeval period and became the baselard daggers and merged with the seax knife to become bollock daggers .. and ultimately the Scottish dirk.
Reintroducing an ancient style of knife again.
I think wearing daggers is a specificity near eastern/Mediterranean customer that is an early bronze age cultural thing that's never quite died out. Even the Romans who shunned wearing arms in public had a custom of wearing very decorated small daggers as did the Etruscans before them and so did many anitolian groups before them too.
That was very interesting. Thank you!
Thanks for showing.
Awesome! We call these daggers "Kinjal" In india...
Well done.
I love these blades…very beautiful
Very interesting- thanks !
Very interesting.
Waalaikum salam wr wb . .ini prinsipnya seperti mandau di daerah asal saya,pantang keluar kumpang jika tak bener2 trpaksa di gunakan. .
If I'm not mistaken the qama's design takes much of it's design from the Roman gladius as it travelled East carried by former Caucasian mercenaries that served as auxiliaries in the Roman Army.
Yes, theese ones have pretty similiar shape. But to detect the connection path between gladius and dagger in not a trivial task
The English term for this kind of weapon is "dirk". There were daggers like this in The scottish highlands that similar cultural connotations and were called dirks. In earlier times the bullock dagger was worn in both England and Scotland. It had a role a bit like the later dirk and earlier seax in that it was a general symbol of a freeman. But unlike the dirk, seax, and Caucasian dagger it wasn't something you absolutely had to have on your belt.
Carrying of weapons was always a distinctive feature of free man, but the intresting thing is that even a majority of peasant in the North Caucasus wore daggers on ones belts, as we see it on old photos.
@xoxag2728 I can certainly understand the reasoning. Social cohesion is a lot easier to achieve when sidearms are ubiquitous. Especially if the value of defending not just one's own honor and physical well being, but also that of the people around you, is instilled at a young age. It also helps prevent criminal underclasses from gaining significant power over the general public, in addition to discouraging petty violence.
👍 watched with interest. Thank you
Thank you too🖐
Hi! Could you please comment on the traditionally short handle lengths and how were these daggers gripped and used. The ones I have seen had handles so short that I do not understand how they were used. Thank you.
Yes, it's a common confusive moment, when one is unfamiliar with this type of handle. The correct grip on the handle is similar to how you would hold a screwdriver with your palm resting on it and your thumb resting on the rivet closest to the blade.
@@Caucasian_nobility Thank you for prompt reply. Would be great if you could demonstrate at some point in a future video. God bless.
@@MaliMeho-v5m ua-cam.com/video/Z9SPRGfDiro/v-deo.html in this video at 13:40 correct handling of a dagger is shown. Use captions. I will cover this issue in future videos.
@@Caucasian_nobility Thank you very much.
Awesome 👏
Could you mention some of the different names for these daggers in different Caucasus languages? .. qama is a word of turkic/mongol origin. As i understand there is also many varied local names for this weapon.
Also very good video, your english is good, can you make other videos on the Caucasian weaponry you have?
Throughout the Caucasus it is called qama, but long cavalry swords are called different ways in different languages.
I'll provide some other videos about weaponry and other issues related to caucasian culture.
Are these in production or are they all custom? We all want one
In the US we call them a "Qama", or a "Kindjal".
Very interesting. I’ve often heard the term “kindjal” when referring to knives of this style. Is that correct? I have a curved dagger of the style you demonstrated. It is referred to as a 1916 Artillery dagger. It is stamped 1916 & has a stamp from the Tula arsenal. I also have a Shashka which has brass loops on the scabbard to carry a M91/30 bayonet. The daggers that you exhibited are very handsome & well made. Can you describe the organization of the establishment that manufactured these weapons? What other cutlery items would they have produced?
"Kindjal" is a word of Persian origin, which was adopted to russian language and they call all double edged knives that way. In the North Caucasus we call it "qama".
Weapons which were produced in factories in Russian Empire for the army were less delicate in tecnique and style. Daggers handcrafted by Caucasian masters are much more beautiful, of course. It is another approach to weapon.
@@Caucasian_nobilityhi. Kindjal is a Mongolian word from "chinjaal" a double edged dagger. it is related to Kazakh/Turkic words "kanjar" or "kama" and is introduced to to Persian and arabic from the Mongols and the Turkic nomads.
I suspect even the indian word "kataar" has Turkic or mongolic roots as do many indian terms for weaponry for that matter.
In Georgian the native word for dagger has been replaced by the Mongolian word long ago and daggers are "kinjali" as I recall.
Most people in the middle east, central Asia, Russian realms including Siberia, Balkans and parts of India seem to use either a Turkic or mongolic term for this weapon, both of which have the same turko-mongol origins - "kama" or kinjal/khanjar.
But these Caucascan languages have native names for these weapons too.. in Chechen is called a "shailta" .."шаьлта".. in Armenian .. an Indo-European language related to Ossetian and Persian still retains its native term for daggers- "dashuyn" in Lak language if I recall is "khharzhan".
To add to this it is curious because at least in artwork and description neither the Mongols nor the Turkic nomads before them were very fond of daggers.. at least in artwork we can see.
But the Indo-European Scythians loved the dagger as part of their attire.
It's curious these terms have spread profusely from Mongolian and Turkic. It may be the case they did in fact like can carry daggers and we are simply missing it from history.
Just as the Mongols and Turkic people also used iron darts, throwing clubs and one handed flails but artwork mostly misses these and yet these were very common weapons used by every nomad horseman.
I think I read somewhere that they are evolved from the Roman Gladius.
Hello, I love caucasian swords. I found some years ago in one weapons shop in Italy two original kindjal swords like yours: one with blade plus minus 30 cm long, the other with blade plus minus 50 cm long, like a gladio. Both with big signs of fight. Age from 18° or 19° century. By
Hi. Thank you you for your response. There are several caucasian daggers are exibited in Stibbert museum in Florence. Did you remember what exact shop it was? It might be intresting to find it
@xoxag2728 yes, but was total casual: this daggers was part of a collection that was sold. I was very luky to find them. This is a shop for guns and rifles, half of tgem from ww2. Maybe this two daggers was of cosacks: I don't know the history. They are very beautiful swords.
I'd say it's a sharpened piece of steel, and the only reason to draw it is if you want to cut something with it. Pulling it out to stick someone might be considered very, very rude.
This world is a quiet rude place, isn’t it?
They just don’t get the point.
I have a new name for my junk now. Lol
Kami axyr kodtai anglisagay avzag?
Only Kuban and Terek Cossacks dressed in Caucasian style, they picked this up during the long wars they took part in in the region, as they were busy in these wars and as there were much less of them than Don Cossacks they mostly didn't directly influence the west with military service. Rather Cossacks were already famous for their role fighting Napoleon (again mostly Don Cossacks) so dance and horse trick riders who saw lots of work in circuses usually played up that they were Cossacks (most were actually Georgians or other Caucasian people's, but westerners were interested both in their dress and Cossacks and so Cossacks wore their dress so it was a decent way of drawing curiosity and large audiences, indeed if actual Cossacks did ever find themselves abroad or were visited by westerners they were invariably asked to dance or do trick riding, most probably could (as they were recreational practices among them and many other surrounding peoples) but it is typically that this as the main interest when encountered what were soldiers. It's like tourists who think Royal Guardmen are Disneyland type actors and not combat troops in ceremonial uniform.
A curved version of these was issued to support and Siberian troops in the Russian army, which I have unfortunately seen misattributed many a time as cossack weapons, shashkas (?) and from the wrong century, I have a book that managed all three in one.
Kuban Cossacks not only wore these but were noted to like them in silver and to look quite ridiculous after covering themselves with sword, dagger, rifle, pistol, several belts of ammunition and all sorts of cartridge boxes and different belts, worse if they decided that if they could get their hands on multiple they should wear them, luckily we don't have any photos of people quite that excessive.
During the Russian civil war swords and daggers were used, and quite a lot as the White army had serious supply problems, they were effective as well as cavalry were extremely dangerous to poorly motivated conscripts on open steppe, against well organised and led veterans, of course the soviets already had a bone to pick with them and would make it a long term mission afterwards to wipe them all out, part of the famine policy was most certainly directed as them as their regions were the greatest concentration of requisition and fatalities, and it largely succeeded, they are more of an identity group than a people these days and attempts to change that have only seem limited success so far, despite some state backing (though conditional, and not on conditions that probably help, overt state control historically was not successful in creating cossacks to fit state needs, and yes the tsarist state took random serfs and merchants and told them to be Cossacks now, strangely enough those people did not want to become cavalry and go fight border raids for practically no financial benefit, implanted Cossacks on the other hand did fine).
I don't quite understand the main point of this interesting passage, but it has no direct relation to the topic. For me, as for many Caucasians, the Cossacks are a group by whose hands the empire colonized the lands. A Cossack is a synonym for the tsar's scourge, as they remain today. Despite the fact that after the conquest of the Caucasus, many Caucasians also served in Cossack units. Which changes nothing.
I’m black but I identify as Caucasian
Are you a trans-caucasian?
@ exactly
I would like to see these side by side with roman swords.
That’s the Nick name I gave my BWC
The dagger makes sense. Caucasian people all the way to Scotland carried daggers. The Scots call it a Dirk. The English and the Nothmen carried daggers in the dark ages. I think a dagger is useful for stabbing but I carry a leaf spring knife which looks more like a steak knife because I cut wood, branches, weeds, vines, meat, bread, and packaging with it. However, when I made it, I kept a long and narrow point on it so I can poke somebody who needs to be poked. White people from India to Tartarstan, and Spain to the Americas are Caucasians. I have lived in the Rocky Mountains, The Sierra Nevadas, and The Appalachian Mountains. Mountains are why we won't be erased from the earth. Flatlanders get overrun by hordes and get their DNA rearranged.
It may be a short sword
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Its a dagger that knows it's father? Has a good credit score?
So its just a traditional double edged dagger.
Not to draw a dagger unless you mean to draw blood is a common myth around many types of dagger, personally I have heard the even more questionable(\total BS) myth of having to cut yourself because you drew it attributed to the kukri, Dirk, Scottish sock knife (which in fact is a myth itself) and Japanese daggers.
The reality is that they are tools and will be used if needed, they might have symbolic significance, but not enough to stop them from being a practical item.
Every myth contains a bit of mith, but if we take into account specific enviorenment of the Caucasus of pre-state age, I would not say it was a fary tale to impress ladies. Deffinitely, a threat of using weapon leads to consequense even now. If we are talking about society where every man was armed and grown to combat, it was very reasonable, wise, and useful rule. We are known about described and documented stories where feuds between families had been lasting for decades or even centuries and causing declining of branches. So, mutual limits for violense was the only mean for establishing order.
We all know the Caucasian dagger is the american police
That caucasian dagger isn't white enough.
Its a simple tool why big it up ? .
Silplicity is boring
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I wish that Islam wasnt forced on these people by a knife and sword. Many great people died because of this.
What people do you talk about?
@Caucasian_nobility mostly ones that ask questions.
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It's resembles Roman blades such as the Gladiolus and the Puglia.
Well, yes, it is clear that the Cossacks have nothing of their own, just as they appropriated the famous tour of Georgian (Gurian) horsemen in America.... and as for Caucasian weapons and not only, the center of their production and distribution was Tbilisi with its workshops, various styles and technologies with famous craftsmen and shopping arcades.... the Russians store everything they stole in the St. Petersburg Hermitage, the rest is blah blah blah...
Unfourtunately, South Caucasus is a quiet different story and I'm not familiar with it.
@@Caucasian_nobility its not quite different. North and south have many similarities. Daggers and swords are for example the same. The towers are the same. The clothes are the same
Not true at all really, the Russians did adopt heavily from surrounding nations but many of the similarities with Georgia are Ottoman Turkish influences rather than direct and the most explicit similarities were prior to the Russian occupation of Georgia, such as armour designs. Architectural similarities are either because both were orthodox nations steeped in Byzantine fashions and tastes or neo-classical stuff the Imperial Russians imported from the west and then build all over the empire like the soviets built concrete blocks.
The Cossacks were not exactly Russian, they were an estate, but also a people with prior history and their own identities, social structures, dialects, culture and political systems, they were integrated into the imperial state but calling them Russian implies they had anything beyond some ethnic roots with other Russians (and not only were not all of them slavs, most were maternally heavily mixed with Tartar, and other steppe people's, as the Cossacks proudly took part in many steppe traditions like cattle, horse and bride stealing, this is why they were used as settlers, they gave as good as they got and were fine with living in a warzone). Only the Kuban and Terek Cossacks adopted Caucasian dress and customs, the Kuban ones got it off the circassians and not the Georgians and the Terek Cossacks probably got it off the Chechens, they were in those regions. Other Cossacks (so most Cossacks) did not live in the Caucasus and were much less influenced though they did adopt the shashka most would continue to place priority on the lance and steppe traditions.
As for Russians as a whole the Caucasus were mostly influential on young gentleman officers seeing some short action, professional soldiers as a formative experience, poets (usually those young gentlemen) and the craftsmanship of silver items. The Russians were rather more obsessed with imitating the French, Austrians and English but even in those cases it all ended up rather Russian.
This just seems like historical grievances, but the fact is that to a giant empire Georgia had much less influence on it than it had on Georgia, which is kind of what made it an occupation and not a union or however the Russians would have framed it.
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Hey, friend, learn the history a little bit, it's been the Ukranian cossaks who were ordered to go settle the malaria swamps and exterminate the local population. Сходи в музей адьігеи, дядя, подумай русский ли тьі
This design is normally what I'd call a "kindjal," or is there a subtle difference between the two daggers?
"Kindjal" is a persian word which is used to describe all types of double edged blades. We call it "qama" in Caucasus