Wdym everything I ever played is instantly the best plane as i kill 20 people off camera smh But in all seriousness you can't force these things unless you just play a plane over and over and I don't have the time for that ._. It just kinda happens sometimes
Buuut u dont have a job so u would have the time to do that. U cant fool me ;) Im still waiting for commentary on ur bad games even tho i know it will probably not perform well.@@DEFYN
@@RedTail1-1well that’s obvious but that’s one that will come. For now though, Gripen and Norwegian F-16 should a good filler. Let’s also be real, they’ve most definitely introduced vehicles that are way too powerful before.
I'm having my heart jumping out of my chest if I get like 5 kills and win the game but 10? Man, managing the pressure in that kinda situation is craaaaazy... hats off to you sir Defynitely god of Air RB
I don't know what belts you were using on this thing but for me, ground belts felt a lot more consistent than air belts. I think they are either aphe or saphei so it kinda makes sense since they go boom after penetrating the outer fuselage/wing skin. It's not a great plane but I'd take it over the Kfir just because it doesn't disassemble itself every time you do a sharp maneuver. Sick gameplay though.
@@jaek_898 The SAPHEI just acts as HE without realShatter while the 30mm HEI use realShatter. While guns with realShatter seem to perform actually quite realistically. There are some instances where they are lacking. A 30mm HEI should definately blow up a fuel tank instead of turning it dark yellow or orange. The fuel tank practically absorbs all damage to the other components but whether it catches fire is probably random.
@@DEFYN Yes, 3. I have no idea what makes it rip cause sometime I'll pull 15G and be fine, in that clip it ripped at 9G and I didn't even have high fuel
idk if you are using the armored targets ammo belt, but it helps a lot when it comes to crit probability. I feel like the HE works sometimes but the SAPHEI if shot correctly destroys air targets most of the time, so i'm just sticking to it. But like you said, this gun is pretty hard to aim with no tracers
It would be interesting if they could add the auto-aim for the cannon that it had irl. The pilot need only to input roll and the plane did the rest, it would fire the gun when it got to a 90% hit probability solution.
Honestly, I prefer the vid where Defyn gets out of the difficult situations, guys on his 6, struggles, than has smooth sailing games. I learn more from those "I barely made it" games. Also, top tier is a skill equalizer, which is actually bad for good pilots.
I want you to play a game in that Kifr C7 please! It’s the highest tier jet i have and you haven’t made a video on it in years. I want to know how the great defyn plays it in 2023
I think it was over a year ago I commented how your patreon named “ScrongledMilk” always makes me laugh because his name is friggin nonsense and I finally ran into him in a game and I kept laughing so hard every time it came on screen I couldn’t even dogfight him and my wingman and I just fell apart entirely. I don’t understand why I am like this.
For some reason, Gaijin really likes to give SAPHEI rounds the fuze delay and sensivitiy of HE shells. Meaning they will just explode on impact and not penetrate anything.
@lapasimms7940 good job genius. I guess considering its a game i should explain for the less educated. Aircraft like the Grippen, F35, and even F4 phantoms back in the day rely heavily on the weapons and sensors they carry over their kinematic performance to gain and maintain an advantage over an adversary. Aircraft such as the F15, F22, Typhoon, Su27/33 have incredible performance even if carrying less than ideal weapons or none at all. Weapons matter in warthunder however, due to the short distances and tendency of players to converge into each other, you tend to see the planes with excellent flight performance perform better ie F16C, M2K, Mig29G.
Defyn does seem to get very lucky, when I use an aim9l, usually the enemy pops a single flare and avoids it. Only time it seems to not happen is when they are clearly oblivious to me...
9Ls track pretty well at close range from the rear if they're still afterburning because flares take a little bit to warm up. By the time they throttled down and flares the missile is too close Youl see the ones i fire from further away don't track as well if they flare
While the gun is hard to aim without tracers, i find that the SAP shells in the ground belt are incredibly potent and might be better than the air belts you were using
Can’t wait to get hyped for the gripen and then get absolutely stomped cause It’s gonna be a piece of flying 0.00003TWR junk (im from ikea land so im biased) Like yeah the grippy turns really good it’s basically a ufo but it suffers from the same problems as the viggen and draken, slight turn and all your speed is gone and it will take 4-6 months to get your speed back. Gajin NEEDS to let it carry the weapons it can carry not just the weapons sweden used on it. Rb74 (9L) and RB99 (120B) to IRIS-T and Meteor is a HUGE jump. The only way it can compete is if they let it carry BOL pods and add missiles like aim-9m, aim-120b and maybe A-darter to it
the thing is in real life the gripen relies kind heavily on electronic warfare and datalink to be an effective weapon, something which obviously is not in war thunder. I think something warthunder needs since we now seem to be entering the definitive era of BVR engagements, that there should be some sort of BVR gamemode, where stuff like the aim120s and aim54s can really do their thing
Nice vidz! Im actually trying to go to uptier with swedish jet, and man its so hard ! Rank 5 - 6 are not very good plane for sweden. I try to fly with the J32B but 80-90% im uptier... Any advise ? Should i stay with the J32B or should i go for an other one ? Wich jet should i research/buy first at R7 ? AJ37 look better than mig21 or J35D. Any tips/helps will be cool :)
I went for AJ37 first and it's honestly not bad but you have to pick your fights (come from the side, fire missiles, land, repeat) and gun is so far to the side that you actually have to use targeting distance setting but I avoid dogfights as much as possible, no matter the flight performance. I only have maybe a dozen games in J35D but I like it a lot more than AJ because guns are inside the plane (still far off center but at least it gets 2) and I like to carry 3x missiles and rocket pod for improvised flares. Almost 2 K/D in J35D and quite a bit lower K/D in AJ37. Edit: I skipped Mig21 because I'd like to get to know my planes and enemies before jumping to constant uptiers to 12.3, and J34 just try to spade for research bonus, it's flat out trash. Guns hit hard but it lacks flight performance, only has 2x 9B and no flares. It's an 8.7 plane at 9.0.
Tbf the only viggen I’ve used is the AJ37 which isnt the best variant, but I’ve honestly been very disappointed with it. It isn’t bad and I’ve had good games in it and is the only variant I exited to play but the others are probably more enjoyable.
So next update we get Grippen, F-15, Su-27 (supposedly) along with some other fun toys. Eurofighter? Please? UK needs a proper top tier airframe seeing as it’s the only nation that doesn’t at this point (except maybe Italy I’m not sure)
It’s WAY too early for the EF typhoon. It’s like if the F-15 had the thrust to weight ratio and turn circle of an F-16 and could carry air to ground weaponry on almost all its hard points
Its funny when i see people bash the Viggen and then watch them get into turn fights, and don't keep up speed. Not you thankfully, you fly like you're supposed to in a strike aircraft platform
I wonder if we'll get the Hungarian air tree at some point, with a Gripen at the top. It'd be hilarious to see Sweden yelling about Italy have a JAS 39, and not just them.
@@iwyrilja It still worries me that Hungary has no word of air forces yet, but Finland got both trees in one update. South Africa doesn't have any either, though I know nothing about theirs. Assuming they aren't getting it this update, which is beyond my scope of prediction. It's possible we never get Hungarian air, and maybe Romania will be Italy's air sub-tree.
@@DEFYN you did mention if they added competent competition it wouldn’t be, and I wouldn’t exactly call the SU-27s flight model “competitive” so you were kinda right lol
Seems like its becoming a series to get the best game in a certain plane. Petition that the next plane has to be me 262.
Wdym everything I ever played is instantly the best plane as i kill 20 people off camera smh
But in all seriousness you can't force these things unless you just play a plane over and over and I don't have the time for that ._. It just kinda happens sometimes
Up 262 next
If you played 100 games in the firebrand you'd probably get a good game eventually
@@DEFYNThe second Defyn lays a fingertip on the F-15 the entire enemy team is gonna get 1v16'd
Buuut u dont have a job so u would have the time to do that. U cant fool me ;) Im still waiting for commentary on ur bad games even tho i know it will probably not perform well.@@DEFYN
1:25 this quote aged like milk
Not my fault they modeled it after an UFO 😭
@@DEFYN and added wing rip RNG to the eagle
@@Shizwiz War Thunder F-14 lore
Was about to comment exactly this.
It’s not just the Gripen, there’s also the Norwegian F-16 and Finnish F/A-18 that will come should they continue the subtree.
18 ain’t gonna be anywhere near until next year
@@RedTail1-1well that’s obvious but that’s one that will come. For now though, Gripen and Norwegian F-16 should a good filler.
Let’s also be real, they’ve most definitely introduced vehicles that are way too powerful before.
Iirc the f-16 in question is the block 70/72 f-16 the modern one with conformal fuel tanks
that shit will come to the tree in like 19 years
They don't have block 70... all they have is Block 1-15 with MLU upgrades. @@BlueO722
I'm having my heart jumping out of my chest if I get like 5 kills and win the game but 10? Man, managing the pressure in that kinda situation is craaaaazy... hats off to you sir
Defynitely god of Air RB
The JA37D is actually the most overpowered plane in the game.
I outturned a lvl4 flying a Kfir C.7 which clearly means it's good at everything
I will now ban you from my comment section for being dumb!
@@DEFYN Banning a level 4 commenter isn't really a huge accomplishment
@@Liniyka lmao
Mad respects to the last guy who just never gave up.
dayum
Czy to Smigol?
Love how the argument the guy said for him losing was you being you, "Me 262 would never win against F16", "dont know man, you're Defyn"
Your absolutely right, I’m excited for Gripen but once I get it I’m immediately switching to a US main for f-15 💯
Not just Gripen, if they continue the subtrees, expect Norwegian F-16 and Finnish F/A-18.
More excited for su27/j11 tbh
@@Bobspineable god i hope not, gripen will already have good enough missiles to stay competitive for a long time, with upgradeability
@@theycallmetray396tbh why? Isn't it gonna be just a slightly stronger MiG-29?
1:24 this quote aged like your mother
Unfortunately gaijin cant model planes properly
they must’ve copy pasted the flight performance for it from the UFO event
i’m about to have this plane and holy you make it look so good i can’t wait
Me when I viggen
I will gripen your balls
@@DEFYNi will draken my balls across your face THIS IS A JOKE DONT TAKE ME SERIOUSLY
she gripen my balls until I viggen
I don't know what belts you were using on this thing but for me, ground belts felt a lot more consistent than air belts. I think they are either aphe or saphei so it kinda makes sense since they go boom after penetrating the outer fuselage/wing skin.
It's not a great plane but I'd take it over the Kfir just because it doesn't disassemble itself every time you do a sharp maneuver.
Sick gameplay though.
Il try it out when i fly it again (never)
@@DEFYN 🤣🤣🤣
I've also been having some really good results with the SAP shells on this gun
@@jaek_898 The SAPHEI just acts as HE without realShatter while the 30mm HEI use realShatter.
While guns with realShatter seem to perform actually quite realistically. There are some instances where they are lacking.
A 30mm HEI should definately blow up a fuel tank instead of turning it dark yellow or orange. The fuel tank practically absorbs all damage to the other components but whether it catches fire is probably random.
SAP in general has a great damage model. Kinda needs it to damage warships.
t-2 video when? Insanely good in downtiers with ridiculous missiles for that br. Turns quite ok and is immensly fun :D
Nice of you to do a video on this cause it's exactly what I'm grinding, well the C Viggen that is
Lol I was the Kfir, probably the worst game I've ever had in terms of wing rip all day. o7
did you actually rip 3 times? Lmao
I thought twice for sure 3 was kinda guessing
@@DEFYN Yes, 3. I have no idea what makes it rip cause sometime I'll pull 15G and be fine, in that clip it ripped at 9G and I didn't even have high fuel
Work of art watching you fly
This is why i am Subscribed to you!
Great day when Dutch boi uploads.
Legends say that he can get an ace on the Bf 109 E-4
idk if you are using the armored targets ammo belt, but it helps a lot when it comes to crit probability. I feel like the HE works sometimes but the SAPHEI if shot correctly destroys air targets most of the time, so i'm just sticking to it. But like you said, this gun is pretty hard to aim with no tracers
The comments about gripen not being the top dog when it releases aged like milk :d
I feel like the Viggen is one of those planes that has a big learning curve but, once you get to know to play it, it becomes a really strong plane
It actualy wont, it will be always outperformed by others😢
Defyn flying an all grey skin as he loves at the price of being uptiered and suffering. War thunder paradox.
W vid, havent even got to through the adds yet👍
This game had my heart pounding 😂
Well played🎉
That was an excellent fight against that kfir.
I love your vids dude, bedankt
I'd really like a video about the F3H-2, as it's quite hard to play because of the MIG-21 spam.
Same, I've been trying to play it as my grinder (as well as the F104a) and I could use some refreshers to reduce the repair cost lol
@@AlexanderFeltnerHarrison Unlocked F8U using F3H, felt like switching from mobility scooter to a race car
I'd say skip it
@@IvanBaturaChannel F8U is absolutely bonkers at 10.0 tbh. Probably one of the best aircraft in the game tier for tier.
You can slave the aim 9ls with the tws. It lets you quickly fire at multiple people in front of you quickly without having to get your nose on
viggens last feat. before superceeded by gripen
shoutout to that absolute chad of a kfir player
1:22 LMAO 🤣 Sorry for that, but that’s an epic fail !
Not my fault gaijin modeled an ufo 😭
It would be interesting if they could add the auto-aim for the cannon that it had irl.
The pilot need only to input roll and the plane did the rest, it would fire the gun when it got to a 90% hit probability solution.
this didn't age well
Why?
Honestly, I prefer the vid where Defyn gets out of the difficult situations, guys on his 6, struggles, than has smooth sailing games. I learn more from those "I barely made it" games.
Also, top tier is a skill equalizer, which is actually bad for good pilots.
Yeees the ja37d lesgooooo
I want you to play a game in that Kifr C7 please! It’s the highest tier jet i have and you haven’t made a video on it in years. I want to know how the great defyn plays it in 2023
I think it was over a year ago I commented how your patreon named “ScrongledMilk” always makes me laugh because his name is friggin nonsense and I finally ran into him in a game and I kept laughing so hard every time it came on screen I couldn’t even dogfight him and my wingman and I just fell apart entirely. I don’t understand why I am like this.
For some reason, Gaijin really likes to give SAPHEI rounds the fuze delay and sensivitiy of HE shells. Meaning they will just explode on impact and not penetrate anything.
Lol kfir c7 breaked wing 3 times in 1 game is so funny i have same experience too
The Gripen is pretty, but its a light fighter. It relies heavily on weapons and other external factors to be effective.
This just in, Fighter Aircraft needs weapons to be effective against enemies. More at 8
@@Lapegacorn He meant that the Gripen doesnt have a good flight performance like the f15 or Su 27, so it relies way more on its weapons.
@lapasimms7940 good job genius. I guess considering its a game i should explain for the less educated. Aircraft like the Grippen, F35, and even F4 phantoms back in the day rely heavily on the weapons and sensors they carry over their kinematic performance to gain and maintain an advantage over an adversary. Aircraft such as the F15, F22, Typhoon, Su27/33 have incredible performance even if carrying less than ideal weapons or none at all. Weapons matter in warthunder however, due to the short distances and tendency of players to converge into each other, you tend to see the planes with excellent flight performance perform better ie F16C, M2K, Mig29G.
@@InterstellarTaco The joke went over your head by about 3 miles
I really wish DEFYN would fly CL.13 Mk.5. A very beast of a jet at 9.0
There are a lot of better planes at 8.7-9.0
If I remember correctly the viggen has a early 737 engine with a bigass afterburner stuck to it
The engine's name is JT8D, it's a civilian development of some military engine, modified for supersonic operation.
How wrong he was with the gripen not going to be overpowered when it came out
But in terms of the armament he was kinda right due to the missile spam meta
Defyn does seem to get very lucky, when I use an aim9l, usually the enemy pops a single flare and avoids it. Only time it seems to not happen is when they are clearly oblivious to me...
9Ls track pretty well at close range from the rear if they're still afterburning because flares take a little bit to warm up. By the time they throttled down and flares the missile is too close
Youl see the ones i fire from further away don't track as well if they flare
Pretty much the only plane that the aim9ls will go straight trough flares are twin engined planes with strong engines like mig-29s or F14s
While the gun is hard to aim without tracers, i find that the SAP shells in the ground belt are incredibly potent and might be better than the air belts you were using
Can’t wait to get hyped for the gripen and then get absolutely stomped cause It’s gonna be a piece of flying 0.00003TWR junk (im from ikea land so im biased)
Like yeah the grippy turns really good it’s basically a ufo but it suffers from the same problems as the viggen and draken, slight turn and all your speed is gone and it will take 4-6 months to get your speed back. Gajin NEEDS to let it carry the weapons it can carry not just the weapons sweden used on it. Rb74 (9L) and RB99 (120B) to IRIS-T and Meteor is a HUGE jump. The only way it can compete is if they let it carry BOL pods and add missiles like aim-9m, aim-120b and maybe A-darter to it
the thing is in real life the gripen relies kind heavily on electronic warfare and datalink to be an effective weapon, something which obviously is not in war thunder. I think something warthunder needs since we now seem to be entering the definitive era of BVR engagements, that there should be some sort of BVR gamemode, where stuff like the aim120s and aim54s can really do their thing
SIM
@@Sop-wavgood luck playing with mouse and keyboard
@@spasti7026it's really not that hard
@@Lapegacorn it is
@@spasti7026MnK is fine in sim? I play with MnK all the time lol
I swear u can give this guy the first ever plane in the world and some how beat the f-15
After spading the top us air tree... yes the viggens are pretty bad compared to the rest of countrys but i still love them
You had a string of bad luck flying this plane
why do you not use the radar altitude feature? I find it especially useful now in the amraam era.
@@spxcxy it wasnt in the game back then
I use it now
I wish I had a framerate above 25fps so I could get these quick reaction kills
Crazy
watch it get amraams in two weeks and then defyn has to redo this vid LOL
The name of the kfir actually means god of war or sth like that
Nice vidz! Im actually trying to go to uptier with swedish jet, and man its so hard ! Rank 5 - 6 are not very good plane for sweden. I try to fly with the J32B but 80-90% im uptier... Any advise ? Should i stay with the J32B or should i go for an other one ? Wich jet should i research/buy first at R7 ? AJ37 look better than mig21 or J35D. Any tips/helps will be cool :)
I went for AJ37 first and it's honestly not bad but you have to pick your fights (come from the side, fire missiles, land, repeat) and gun is so far to the side that you actually have to use targeting distance setting but I avoid dogfights as much as possible, no matter the flight performance. I only have maybe a dozen games in J35D but I like it a lot more than AJ because guns are inside the plane (still far off center but at least it gets 2) and I like to carry 3x missiles and rocket pod for improvised flares. Almost 2 K/D in J35D and quite a bit lower K/D in AJ37.
Edit: I skipped Mig21 because I'd like to get to know my planes and enemies before jumping to constant uptiers to 12.3, and J34 just try to spade for research bonus, it's flat out trash. Guns hit hard but it lacks flight performance, only has 2x 9B and no flares. It's an 8.7 plane at 9.0.
Purple patch defyn still better than me at my absolute peak performance
They need to add the Mitsubishi F-2 or the F-15J... please GOD (gaijan).
Yes
gg
the ja37c is preferred by me. The 11.0 match maker is just down tier constant.
DEFYN I have something to show you
i'd honestly prefer if the gripen had gotten the KCA over the BK
Real
The F15 is no match for the JA37 Viggen
Do not
F22 wont know whats coming when my viggen does a short takeoff fron a road
F-15 is a can crusher so yeah
the advantage for sweden mains is the overwhelming skill issues on the other nations
also, the gripen statement aged like fine milk xD
Could you do russian Mig21 bis for some of your future videos please? thanks and wish u luck :)
Tbf the only viggen I’ve used is the AJ37 which isnt the best variant, but I’ve honestly been very disappointed with it. It isn’t bad and I’ve had good games in it and is the only variant I exited to play but the others are probably more enjoyable.
So next update we get Grippen, F-15, Su-27 (supposedly) along with some other fun toys.
Eurofighter? Please? UK needs a proper top tier airframe seeing as it’s the only nation that doesn’t at this point (except maybe Italy I’m not sure)
It’s WAY too early for the EF typhoon. It’s like if the F-15 had the thrust to weight ratio and turn circle of an F-16 and could carry air to ground weaponry on almost all its hard points
i hope the eurofighter gets added in the near future
no you dont
Typhoon
Do a “If I kill you I take your plane” challenge
Idk what it is with the skyflashes but it feels like it just doesnt track properly
Do you have any tips for a console player with air I’m getting a keyboard soon but any tips for controller in arb?
I get back into the game after a break after getting all of American top tier get destroyed by a mig-29 G i get off
Will germany also receive a new jet? How was it when mig29 got added did they instantly release the german one too
Can you make another P51D30 video ?
You forgot to retract your landing gear on take-off didn't you?
Retracted it too fast actually lol
It folded under the weight of my massive cheeks
@@DEFYN Canonically caked up 🥵
Oh, pulled out too early again, I see@@DEFYN
What is a purple patch?
Its funny when i see people bash the Viggen and then watch them get into turn fights, and don't keep up speed. Not you thankfully, you fly like you're supposed to in a strike aircraft platform
bipolar ahh gun sweden is just like that
Imagine losing to a Viggen in basically any top tier jet lmao
They better put the F-15 after the f4e or my year old prediction to the f4e would be a waste.
This aged poorly lol. About the grippen
I wonder if we'll get the Hungarian air tree at some point, with a Gripen at the top. It'd be hilarious to see Sweden yelling about Italy have a JAS 39, and not just them.
Sweden will probably have monopoly on the gripen for an update or two and then it might get added to the South African and Hungarian subtrees
@@iwyrilja It still worries me that Hungary has no word of air forces yet, but Finland got both trees in one update. South Africa doesn't have any either, though I know nothing about theirs.
Assuming they aren't getting it this update, which is beyond my scope of prediction. It's possible we never get Hungarian air, and maybe Romania will be Italy's air sub-tree.
OK how the heck?
牛逼!
These Gripen comments have aged a little poorly lmao
Not my fault they made it an UFO 😭
@@DEFYN you did mention if they added competent competition it wouldn’t be, and I wouldn’t exactly call the SU-27s flight model “competitive” so you were kinda right lol
We should 1v1 in arcade
Wish I ran into bad players like this more often lol
squads 190 a8
Defyn is just better
With the last update the wings of the kfirs rip off very easy :(
Mig 21 R13 has the same crappy position of gun and no tracers. Getting mig 21 vibes lol
3:08 Russian bias? Never heard of it
Meat reveal when?
day 7 of asking defyn to play the fgr2