Italian Commentators ROAST ISU - Figure Skating Lutz Pre-rotation Full Blade
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2018
- SOMEONE PLEASE reward these two Italian commentators a medal!!!
- To the viewer who sent me the link. Thank you so much!
- and thank you for the translations.
**PS grammar mistake at 6:12. It should say "occurred ON March 24, 1962". It was initially "occured in 1962" but I changed it and forgot to fix the grammar. ** - Спорт
I'm so jealous that Italy has commentators that actually know what the hell they're talking about... unlike America.
I agree with you 1000%!!!!
angeliqueinhollywood you always find a reason to add evgenia in almost all of your comments. 😂😂😂
angeliqueinhollywood
Olympics Ladies Single Skating FS Karen Chen had calls for blade edge on 3F, 2A+1Lo+3S
Well I've tried to check it but I couldn't find the papers about skate america (I don't want to look for Us nationals because it's not international) Any suggestion?
angeliqueinhollywood even though you didnt fell on a jump but has bad take off, then it should still low GOE.
I'm italian and i perfectly remember them. They shouted hard when Yuna got robbed in Sochi and they called it a "scandal". They are also the same guys that end every Yuzu's performance with "welcome to planet's Hanyu" and called a scandal when he hot 97 on pcs and not 100 ahahahahahha. I just admire these 2 guys
TheAndre496 They should hold a seminar for ISU judges. lmao
Dove li vedi? In quale canale tv?
Eurosport
I remember that too! :D
I'm Italian too, I watched Sochi Olympics on Cielo and commentators (one of them is now the coach of the french pair James and Cipres) were angry about Yuna not getting the gold. I believe there is the video somewhere on youtube.
EDIT: found it ua-cam.com/video/Ieg2zglLaTs/v-deo.html
Boyang quad lutz is the best ever. His outside edge is so deep, his boot is almost touching the ice. If he was money bribing Russian or American he would have recieved +3 GOE.
Even more so if he was japanese or canadian.
Maria nah, American is the trend now
@djkaye youtube That one was great. But in general Kolyada never had a consistent 4Lz, that was one of the few times he landed it. Jim has the best quad lutz technique in the world, the only other contender is Nathan, but Nathan doesnt get the insane height that Jim gets.
Boyang’s lutz is *chef’s kiss* the only person who could compete with/top it is Yuzuru. To be fair, Kolyada also can do a beautiful lutz, but he isn’t as consistent as the others (probably due to a serious ankle injury he’s had for several years now).
@@roukanroukan5153 2022 update: Americans is really the trend now.
The moment when you try to do a Lutz but instead do an entirely different element completely. 😂😂
That Lutz turned into a Flip, then a Loop. That jump did more changes than a Victoria Secrets model. 🤣🤣🤣
Yes i've been talking about this, Boyang was always underscored
Minh Thư Nguyễn lolls basically if you aint american or Russian in figure skating then you are almost always underscored lmaos (no offence to Americans or Russians but these days it's seriously the truth)
In Italian Uncles We Trust🤣🤣🤣
nat_ Max and Koola are my only sanity this season.
Who's Max? I'm new in FS, and i would like to know bloggers/commentators about the topic, so I would be very grateful if you'd please tell me
fa lu it’s Massimiliano Ambesi from Italian Eurosport
Boyang is always underscored but his jumps are always technically correct. Poor boy, if he was born in Russia or the U.S., he will be getting those GOE +3s... rip ISU
I watched the whole video. They kept saying that yuzuru is still underscored.
poohchyena 000 thats true in every event.
Can I know the name of the video ??
shimaa Ahmed i saw it first on facebook. It was posted on a facebook group dedicated to Hanyu
poohchyena 000 ok thanks ^_^!!!
Hey I'm italian but I really want to see this video, can anyone link me pls?
Yasss Boyang get those recognitions!!! !!!!!!!!!
Sorry Shoma, but Boyang for silver or bronze!!!
Silver for sure, never felt hyped to watch shoma or Javier. Root for Jin.
Phương Thảo Trần Fernandez deserves silver come on. Skating quality and completeness wise he's still got Jin beat totally. Jin's still got some ways to go but if he keeps working at it, he might be able to dominate next time. I do think he deserves bronze here tho (with Fernandez in 2nd, Uno got 10+ points more than what he rightfully deserved with those pseudo quads of his) and silver over Uno back in Helsinki.
razh fog Not this WC... ISU is a joke. At least Max is on it. twitter.com/ac_thro/status/977236249470783489
I seriously cannot believe he’s siding with us “crazy people” on the internet so publicly. Maybe there’s hope?
Boyang's jumps are phenomenal, but everything other than that is pretty weak, his artistry is lacking and his choreography needs more transition.
It's now 2022 and even more skaters are using full blade takeoffs. I honestly think the tech panel should call the jumps what they are based on their entry and not what is listed in a skater's program. If they turn a lutz or flip into a loop takeoff, it should be called as a loop. And if that causes the skater to break the Zayak rule, they should receive zero points for the element.
Sakamoto big time.
What's the point of having 9 judges and 3 people on the technical panel anymore tbh... rip ISU
Well, technically there are even 12 judges sitting in the arena, but 3 of them don't know until the end of the competition that their scores do not count (I'd like to take a closer look on that computer, who selects these 3 randomly...) :D
I’m not a figure skater, but I’ve fallen down this rabbit hole of salty Yuna fans absolutely *murdering* Adelina with slow-mo comparisons, and I am loving it 😂😂😂 (“Stop, she’s already dead!!” - but not really, it’s entertaining af 💀) Even to a layperson, it’s so easy to tell that Aliev, Adelina, and Co.’s jumps are incredibly sloppy...smh
Girl same
theres more vids?? care to link pls
@@shivi7744 there’s a ton out there! I think if I try to put links in a comment it will get auto-flagged as spam or something, but just search ‘yuna Kim jump comparison’ and you’ll get plenty of results. The first one that comes up from Koola King (Yuna vs Evgenia) is great because she slows down the jumps and then compares them each to this 3D textbook modeling of how the perfect jump should look. Quality roast
It’s time to add anna into that list, the ogm owner with sloppy tech
Russians were lucky to not have much competition in the ladies field this year so their win is not a scandal w their ridiculous tech, but ofc they wouldn’t leave wo a scandal
i totally agree with Italians. i'm sick of this so-called quad jumps which are actually overrotated triples. My eyes bleed every time i see Aliev, Samarin , Zhou, Uno quad lutz or flip, awful technic but they got higher goe than Boyjan who is the true king of quad lutz or Chen who is now the only one executer of true quad flip. So unfair((
Tatsiana A if you see the complete video, you'll see they also speak about Shoma quad flip prerotation
Andrea Arabito of course they do! Uno's prerotation at flip can see even blind people((( but look at his GOE for this jump..
Andrea Arabito They actually said that Shoma did 2 quad loops and no quad flip. This caused repetition of quad loops and should have garnered him reduced score.
Nathan should've been the first to ratify 4F not Shoma
I want to buy them flowers, lol. Amazing job.
Italians are really perfectly knowledgable and more importantly - honest. Just how they reacted to Sochi etc.
And this video is perfect!! Doesn't leave out any points that could have been made!
hope italians will make more videos criticizing not only men's but also ladies.
I love shoma but he should also be called out with his wrong edge.
notso not
I love shoma too but I know his jumping technique is not the greatest . There has been many times his jumps should have been called. I think it's really a shame because he's such a good skater in other ways and a great performer.
That's true. I love Shoma but he needs to be called for his technique. Otherwise, he won't fix those mistakes which is a pity.
Especially him being given the credit for the first 4F in history when his 4F is not a quad nor a flip... :/
if they will criticize ladies, isu would find them and KILL
I’ve always been upset with the absurd 4F Shoma puts out compared to Nathan’s as Nathan tends to receive a lower GOE for his when the landing and takeoff are both cleaner.
God Boyang's 4Lz is a thing of beauty
Erika Potian Agreed and Dima actually has the correct edge, its just his toe pick that needs work but he is a good spirted hard working person so I believe in him...unlike somebody else I dont believe in😅
dima is fantastic and i know he will continually improve :D
meanwhile lmao isu will overlook evgenia's mistakes and crown her as a 3x world champ :/
mish098aimer Apparently so, apparently its due to her injury but me...i think its something else AND her injury...While I still enjoy Evgenias skating and think she is good I am happy that a podium spot at the worlds wont be taken up by her and an actual skater with correct or alright technique will get the spot, hope she get healthy again 💕
I am proud to be italian for once
INTELLECTUALS
i study neurology and there been a lot of Italian scientists in that field lol so be proud again
Lol. Lol.
They should round up the judges and show them these clips. It’s ridiculous and they really need to crack down on these Flutzes.
Saw Jin Boyang, clicked asap. True rival of Yuzuru. Next king maybe?! He's younger, he has potential, why not show him some support. Love to see these 2 compete.
My remember in 2014 Sochi this man commentator + Silvia Fontana call Yuna stunning beauty 3Lutz (maybe no one can match Yuna lutz technique ) and they screaming after Yuna score.
Yes i'm italian and i remember that day, they shouted for 10 mins "scandal"
I want to give flowers to those brave brave men. They’re the heroes we all need!
On a side note, koola’s videos on jumps totally made me re-examine my own jumps and helped me fix the technical mistakes I didn’t even realize I was making so thank u a lot koola!😘
And then there's Yuzu on his planet perfectly doing every jump XD
*"Welcome to Planet Hanyu, population: one person, HIM!!! A planet where technical omnipotence meets artistic excellence!"*
A not quite word for word quote from Angelo Dolfini and Massimiliano Ambessi! 😄 They're seriously amazing, being bold enough to do what is right! 😊 Ganbatte, Yuzuru-kun!!!
Also r these the italian commentators that fanboyed really hard during yuzurus 2017 worlds fs?
Yup
Koola King That explains a lot
Lol best commentators
yeah they are real big Yuzuru fans because....Yuzuru has good technique across the board in every aspect of the sport.
Yeah, because they know who the real GOAT is in figure skating.
it was these guys and Silvia Fontana that went on the tirade when Sotnikova took gold in Sochi
I don't understand italian, but I remember them clearly saying NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, when Sotnikova got Gold LOL.
Worlds is in Italy this year, let's hope something good can come out of it
Cyrra M I want all the shade humanly possible.
To me what Is going to "Come Out" of the WC In Italy will be the potential Last Skate of the Legendary Carolina Kostner, Whatever one may think of Her, She Is part of the Kim Yuna, and Mao Asada generation that will pass sadly with Her eventual retirement....I hope, If It Is Carolina Kostner's Last Competition, She skates the roof off the place and wins the Gold!!!! :)
bourque801 That's highly unlikely unfortunately. The most we can hope for is Carolina to break 80 in her SP, skate a clean FS and claim the bronze, because there's no way the judges will give Evgenia and Alina a score lower than 150 (unless they make too many obvious mistakes)
first of all, i want to thank those italians and give them a big hug. amazing job and honesty, truly.
also thankyou for making this spesific video because with your previous ones i've only watched where you gave words on the screen and i don't really get it... but with this one where they comments and speaks + you gave those explanation: i get it. thankyou so much.
(also can i say your editing with putting clips of their jumps and all of those memes, i just can't 😂😂)
They are always appreciative of true talent and have always stood up against the travesty that is judging in figure skating irrespective of nationalities.
Have you seen Max’s Twitter during Worlds? He’s as fed up as we are. twitter.com/ac_thro/status/977236249470783489
Bless the Italian commentators
Yes! My two favorite Italian commentators! Not only they are diehard fans of a certain two-time Olympic champion and they recognize true talent/skill among certain skaters, they are very experienced with figure skating and know what they're doing and talking about. Mein gott, I was somewhat intimidated and terrified after watching them call out ISU on their bullshit and biased scoring system, I can't even refute their argument even if I try to play devil's advocate. But bless these two! And yes, Boyang needs more recognition and his jumps are amazing. I commend their courage and bravery of speaking out against ISU. These two deserve a fucking gold medal.
We need more of them.
And this was done four years BEFORE the ridiculous scoring of the "Eteri girls" in the 2022 Olympics.
Massimiliano Ambesi and Angelo Dolfini, heroes of THE REVOLUTION.
I love these commentaries you learn so much about the quality in figure skating. I look at the sport much differently now catching the quality over crap when skater skate.
Is this the harry potter soundtrack?! My nerd ass be lovin' this background music.
the best [art is remembering EXACTLY where in the movies each piece was from lol
yeees its buckbeak's flight
prisoner of azkaban ❤️❤️
Damn, skaters are getting played by blind or corrupt technical panels
Italy not only has delicious espresso, but also has honest and I integrate judges. Salute. Italy makes ISU shame!
And this honesty don't pay well italian athletes... ISU is really corrupted
tatisakura81 yes but I prefer italy for pizza... sry guys
This pre-rotated, blade assisted instead of pure toe assisted lutz jump technique is quite common in Russian skaters, the Russian lady skaters in your previous video who can execute an outside edge lutz, many of which however still are using this blade assisted thus loop like lutz as explained here by the Italians.
Kola, the same commentators, during the lady free, said the exact same thing about Mevdveva flutz. During the replay, they addressed that the jump was a flip and not a lutz, and that she deserved the ! from the judges like the others skaters. They said it was not fair! You have to find this clip: lady free final, Eurosport Italia. :)
I confirm i saw the lady's final, and they criticized hard madvevea's flutz, i guess they were the only one that did it. I'm proud of beeing italian :)
TheAndre496
Some lady from olympic channel talked about her wrong edge too during the replays. I'm not sure if it was brittish or canadian (or something else) because i couldn't tell from her accent.
Ella Tiitinen she was Australian. But yes she did comment saying that she noticed that Medvedeva’s lutz had a wrong edge take off. Then right after she said the technical panel addressed it as proper lutz, what a joke
GennyKoala
Okay thanks for the information. English is not my native language so it's a bit hard for me to tell where she was from :) But it was refreshing to hear someone mention her flutz.
Can u send me the link?
I always said that Evgenia’s technique isn’t as great as everyone claims it to be - and here’s the actual proof. By the way, this is no hate, I really like her, but it’s true.
The Confused Nazaré image is absolutely everything to me, it's so befitting to this video, only lacked the calculations 😂
I was watching the World lady Juniors SP 2018 and the judges were calling everything; UR, wrong edge, flat edge and very low GOE for poorly executed jumps. Should have used these judges and this technical panel for the Olympics.
Yes, Eteri coaching is how to cheat. Her students, most students seem to make great jumps but in the eyes of these experts, many are cheating by prerotation, as Eteri took advantage of the inability of judges to see the entry of toe or blade when he skaters took off.
Great video, the slow mo and step-by-step explanation makes it clear for even a beginner like myself to understand.
Off topic but I can't stop thinking about the *"and there's bradie tennel still on her phone"* from the commentators
Oml really? I want to see that bahahaha
That shit was uncalled for. As an American, I was glad she didn't medal. Tara and Johnny Weird were doing way too much. She was not even that great, but because she didn't fall I guess...like really.
Vitaluv he already came out as gay why are we still using Johnny weird as an insult
Finally some recognition and appreciation of my boy, Boyang.
I always loved figure skating but it wasn’t until I started watching your vids that I really started to understand the jumps and techniques...oh and the corruption
Love your vids keep it up!
Ambesi & Dolfini always saying the truth and providing you the highest quality content. So sad that Italian Eurosport is such a hard to get outside Italy
THANK YOU! thank you brave italian commentators fighting the corrupt ISU and thank you to you!
Bravo Italia! Yuzu does perfect jumps and gets underscored most of the time. Boyang Jin's jumps are amazing! The judges suck!
Your videos should be viewed by more people, maybe that way everybody would understand ice skating better.
Also the other italian television broadcasting RAI criticised the fact that Eugenia did not get the Edge call.. the name of the commentator is Fabrizio Pedrazzini, needless to say, an ISU TECHNICAL SPECIALIST....... He clearly said that was a TOO INSIDE OF an EDGE during the final skate. Still, the only lady who currently has a TRIPLE LUTZ is CAROLINA KOSTNER, just GORGEOUS!!!
Andong Zhou
There is other ladies that currently has triple lutz not just Carolina
Not as good and clean as hers ;)
Andong Zhou
What about Tuktamyshevas and Tsurskayas lutz? I think that they have gorgeous lutz as well.
Buckbeak's Flight soundtrack giving me nostalgia, again, your music choices are always on point
Damn you lady, you are really punching the ISU judges hard with your work! :)
I must admit that I have to agree with everything said in this particular video, despite of my world shattered a little. I mean, I was rooting so hard for Dimitri Aliev watching his Olympic short program performance live on stream! His charisma and style quite reminds me the old era champions from Russia: Yagudin, Plushenko, Kulik, Fadeev, Urmanov, Abt. He was one of those few Russian sportsmen who were wrongly robbed the chance to compete under their national flag at the Olympics, and when I saw him executing his 4Lz+3T combo, it was quite a satisfaction for me: first, he has not managed to execute that combination properly during this season (either it was 3Lz+3T, or he exchanged the 4Lz for 4T, or he screwed it up completely) and second, it was like him saying "f**k you guys, no matter what flag I compete under, I am not giving up". Unfortunately, I haven't enough time to see the slow-motion replays after his performance and I only checked the current standing on the internet later that day. Still, I hope he will improve his technique and will try his best to reach the top in figure skating, without any unwanted help from corrupted ISU judges.
BTW have you ever thought about sending some official report to ISU repesentatives or to some administrative authorities about what s**t is going on in figure skating right now? I think it is worth a try...especially when you would manage to reach and gain support from the weighted and influential figure skating personalities.
And last but not least - I subscribe to your channel now :)
mish098aimer At the turn of the millennium, everyone has believed that FS as a sport is down and out, with ISU being a fossilized institution and 6.0 system being unfair and obsolete, but still kept alive. No one has ever thought there will be any signficant change in FS at all. But then, at the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, many fault but striking decisions have been made during FS events. However, the biggest fuck-up were the results of free skate event of pair skating, which lead into a scandalous testimony of French ISU judge Marie-Reine Le Gougne that she had been pressured to vote for the Russian pair as the wnners, regardless of how the other pairs performed. That lead into total transormation of rules and judging system, being active to these days (with some modifications of course).
Now we are in the similar situation - if there are going to be some changes, then some huge, scandalous, but namely striking false decision must happen during some ISU FS event. And the nearest best opportunity for that will be next week at the World FS Championships in Milano...
Koola, since the Olympics are over it's safe to compare one of the most iconic, the most revered, the most praised programs of all time: Yuna's Les Mis. To Evgenia's whack of a mime charading thing. I've been waiting for this moment
I don’t get how you only get 3.8k subs. Does ISU have its eyes on you🤔
Love you koola❤️
you all should follow max ambesi on every social, he knows his job, he knows what he's doing and saying. he's never biased and always gives LONG technical comments about eveyone's program and performance. he made us all experts in italy thanks to his commentary.
Isu should be in eternal darkness after all this shade.
your highness they need to be in darkness within darkness. I'm so disgusted by ISU after watching this video
For the ladies is one and only can compare with the men's in term of Lutz technique.
Eternal champions Queen Yuna
PJ ChJ not only that, but yuzuru hanyu the GOAT himself has stated that kim yuna is one of his idols! i see the influence of her lutz technique on him, actually.
Yassss two time Olympic Champion Kim Yuna!!!
Omg yes queen yuna
I love Italian commentators! They know what they’re doing, keep roasting 😂
Man I love everything about these videos, the educated opinion, the evidence, the nice music and the edits. This is perfection
My boii Boyang will forever be my aesthetic u g h I love him
Splitsy S a m e
Good news is that there’s no Eteri bonus at the World Championships this year.
I love how hes like not only is this not a quad, but it's also not a lutz
Worlds is in Italy...hope we get fair judging for every skater! Call out the wrong edges, wrong take off, pre rotation and dont score people so high in artistry when they dont show that much aristrty!
Pointing out skaters mistakes and having it reflect on their score gives them reason to improve and become better! And they will be rewarded for improving by getting good GEO and higher scores than before! Evgenia and many other skaters get full GEO for jumps that arent even jumps in the rule! Evgenia being the worst offender.
Do these..." fans" (I dont really call them fans) not want this to be a competitve fair sport again?? Obviously not because they claim a flutz, full blade, pre rotated wrong entry stiff landing skater got robbed?? Lol go watch ice shows or freakin disney on ice if you dont see this as a sport and rather a pantomine show. (Actually ive seen Disney on ice once and their are more textbook skaters there! Damn ISU your being made a fool)
Hasta te aseguro que veremos mas atletas de manual en el cirque du soleil, un show bastante caro que en todo evento que sea juzgado por la asquerosa y corrupta isu...
the pronunciation of rittberger is so satisfying for some reason
Oh my godness I know the video has been 2 years and it's my 100th time that I'm watching it but so proud of boyang and his perfect lutz happy to see a proper lutz
I love them they are my fav commentators, always spilling the tea and appreciating real talent.
Love you italy
Thank you for the vid, awesome translation (for someone who love Italian and is learning it) very helpful. And since I'm a skating fan, too, bless the Italian commentators for this
It has been 4 years and I still think Ritt-ber-ger on a weekly basis.
YOU CANT FOOL US ISU!!!
Evgenia inventing new jumps, how awesome is she..... lol
Thankfully, it appears they are improving.
@@snowangel7980 yeah...look at her axel, and her flip and her lutz, Orser is working wonders on her
@@feederbureauofinvestigatio7648 You could definitely tell in the Novgorod Cup that her jumps had less strength than previously but they were far more technically sound. The edge on her lutz still isn't really deep but it was definitively outside. Her Axel isn't as high as it once was, but it is starting to look fully rotated. It was quite lovely to see actually, because I think she's a beautiful skater but it was hard for me to root for her to win knowing that she had really flawed technique on a few of the major contributors to her TES. I also like that Orser has pulled the Lutz out of her triple combos... gives her more time to focus on properly executing the jump without having to worry about another element immediately after. Her programs seem a little bare at the moment footwork wise, but if she's improving, I'm all for it. It is not like she's ever boring to watch anyhow.
@@snowangel7980 It just bothers me SO MUCH that she broke yuna's records with such overscores and bad technique!! Arrggg it was not fair!! And can't be undone, what a shame ISU :'(
@@aracelichely2954 Those 'records' are a joke these past years because the are due strictly to the rules changing constantly. The reason she racked up all the points had to do with ample use of the tano and rippon arms and also jumps in the second half. Those things gave her advantage over other skaters, and also the so called 'difficult' entries and transitions, which for some inexplicable reason appear to compensate point wise the failure to execute properly the jumps themselves. So it's these weird scoring idiosyncrasies that make these 'records' meaningless. The next 'records' are being set of course by the quad jumpers, and again nothing to do with the jumps themselves or the quality of the skaters' technique, but only their small size and age and number of rotations. Sorry, but the whole rules and scoring system of this sport is screwed up. They will now every year be changing something to try to stop this runaway train of racking up points with poor technique.
Italians are aesthetically artists that they explain about architectures,outfit designing,dance,music and even artistic sports like free skating on the ice.
But those Italians in this video are professionals like the French.
France and Italy are beauty powerhouses.
Thank You for this wonderful UA-cam video Koola....This commentary Destroys the pitiful NBC commentary that the American audience had to listen to during the Olympics....I hope that these commentators make, or have made similar commentaries about the Ladies Figure Skaters????
OMG Koola!!! You’re not updated the new LUTZ is now DEEP Inside Edge assisted by another edge in the right foot. That’s why Goddess Evgenia always get +3.00 GOE. 😂
I truly feel lucky to have enjoyed such a thorough explanation broken down with effective images and video. Thank you so much! Can’t wait to watch more of your vids and learn more. Figure skating would be so much more accessible if all commentators were this unbiased and could actually beak down the technical side of things like the Italians, instead of yapping on about useless, subjective hogwash. It’s much better for people like me trying to learn about the sport. Those two are fantastic.
I might have to learn italian so i can listen to some actually good commentary lol
Yes.... :)
I'm italian and can say thay everytime perfect. After Yuna got robbed they screamed hard for 10 minutes XD. They also love Yuzuru and after a clean free program they always say "welcome to planet's Hanyu"
This is what happened in all Italia's tv when Yuna got robbed :)
ua-cam.com/video/IIJUSAyRUgU/v-deo.html
angeliqueinhollywood yuna did get robbed. they even have a petition to reevaluate their program because many are wondering why Adelina became gold.
and please send links please!!
angeliqueinhollywood she has had multiple hip injuries in the past and has therefore dropped the 3Lo off her programs. Because of the Zayak rule, the only way was a 6-triple program (two Lutzes, two Salchows, one Flip and one Toe Loop), choosing not to repeat the Flip cuz' it's her nemesis.
BUT...Using the number of triple jumps is in this case irrelevant when Kostner and Asada, who respectively had a 7-triple and 8-TRIPLE programs, skated clean and still scored LESS than Adelina. So don't say Adelina deserved the win cuz' she had one more triple over Yuna, when Kostner and Asada, much further artistically, delivered the same number of triples for the first and even one more for the latter.
It's not all about the number of triples, but the quality of them. Not even to mention her SP's inflation, Adelina's flutz, preroration and under-rotation, as well as stumble, level 2 step sequence, and poor PCS (compared to Yuna, Carolina and Mao) in the FS should have knocked her off first place, and perhaps even off the podium.
"...a flip jump which is actually a loop with a forward take-off..." Excedrin Medicine ha power!
Combining THREE jumps (a Flip, a Loop and an Axel) into ONE jump! T A L E N T
You Yunabotz are juxt hatersz!!!!1
Seo Joohyun true!! we really hate ISU 😊😊
Seo Joohyun lol
You forgot the Lutz!!! Combine technique from 3 jumps (flip,loop,axel) and got credited with 3Lz!!!! Only medvedeva the queen and savior of ISU!!!!
Your comments man I’m all fucked up
I watched the entire thing few days before, i must say bravo Italian commentators, BRAVO!
Thanks for another great video! There aren't that many different jumps in figure skating, how come technical panel judges analyze jumps in slow motion and still have so much trouble doing such a simple task...
xxfrozenflower
I know right. And those judges are supposed to be professionals on what they do. How can they not see what even the fans can see? It's ridicilous.
Loving the dramatic Harry Potter music in the background haha
I'm Russian and it's disappointing to me to see such scores for jumps with incorrect technique. Even when they are Evgenia's or Alexander's.
I really hope that you can also expose the wrong techniques from Shoma Uno's toe pick jump as well
Bravo Angelo, una spiegazione molto precisa in ogni dettaglio che porta ad una critica costruttiva. Queste sono cose che fanno bene allo sport.
This alone makes me wanna watch as much videos of these Italian commentators as I can
Can we get these two lovely men to judge a competition along with Ashley Wagner so they can give Miyahara the Olympic medal that she deserves K THANKS
thank you!!!!! nobody talks about miyahara she was robbed!!!!!
She's gonna get a less then she did with her pre-rotations and under-rotations.
Uh oh. Don't think Miyahara would like that very much. They'll give her fair pcs but her jump goes are gonna suffer a lot more than whatever they're not giving her now. Think you should hope they stay far far away from her if you're really rooting for her.
Everyone can tell that ridiculous wrong edge and prerotation which evgenia is doing. Almost all her jumps are under rotated yet she is not penalised! She doesn’t deserve her Olympic silver medal and her previous world’s title. Judges think she is good because they think she is consistent by not falling. But come on, if all the skaters does prerotated jumps they won’t fall so easily either. It just sucks to see other skaters worked so hard not getting the results they wanted while evgenia can cheat her way through while crying for her gold medal -.- as for this Russian male skater, never really heard about him until this Olympics and was surprised his scores were so high. JOKE!
Keiko Yamada At least he has correct edge unlike somebody 😂 he has I think acknowladged his pre rotation and is working on it as much as he can because it does show in his other jumps he use to pre rotate on. Whenevr people use counter arguments like "Evgenia works hard! She is a good person blah blah" ALL figure skaters work hard and from what ive seen they are ALL good people who im suprised havent snaped from this unfair judging.
Evgenia claims she will fix her jumps at the end of every season but she NEVER HAS and they are getting worst due to her growing. Its gonna be another Yulia situation where they injure themselves except Evgenia probably wont be missed by actual fans since she never did a jump properly.
CookieGal LOL yes exactly what do they meant by evgenia worked hard ?? Every other athlete worked even harder the fact that they don’t have the advantage of getting overscored like evgenia. Another argument which they would say oh but evgenia has the artistry - ??? when did she ever had artistry 😂😂😂
Keiko Yamada exactly 😂 Artistry is more than gaping your mouth, you have to show it in your movements and whole body, not just your face! She is kinda stiff and rushed in my eyes. Alina is a bit more elegant for me but she is also abit rushed. Its just...weird. PCS scores in general are always weird
She did deserve her world title in 2017 but scores were ridiculous. 2016 I would have given the title to Anna Pogorilaya, so underrated. I agree she should have been bronze at best in Pyeonchang with Osmond finally skating so well in a big event, maybe even 4th behind Miyahara.
angeliqueinhollywood second time I see you asking someone to skate. 😂😂😂😂
bro, in latin america we barely have any competitive consistent skaters actually going places, and as a lover of the sport, my ears BLEEEEEEEED when a commentator just go "that was beautiful" "she looks tired" "oh wow such a smile" BRO I HAVE EYES FOR THAT, WHERE IS THE RICH ANALYSIS AND THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION LIKE DAMNNN, if we are not going to skate and you want to fucking broadcast the sport, at least lets do something well and bring some very nice commentators in.
If we dont skate, we have nothing to fucking loose, plz do bring the ISU down by all means.
But noooooo, these commenators are being fucking paid to basically fake smile through words, someone plz end me already
Lol same 💀 I also live in a country where FS is nonexistent and most commentators' comments are "its beautiful" "great" "amazing" etc. But there is this one commentator that calls out Eteri and her methods whenever any of her skaters skate 💀 I guess that is something
The edits on this had me cackling tysm for making this
thank you for acknowledging boyang’s skill. he’s constantly being overlooked
ISU: “Quad jumps no matter what. That’s how we will keep fans.”
Their passion for the support is wonderful to see!
Idk y but the bg hp music makes me laugh so hard
Thank you for this video!
Aaaaah, always love our italian commentators 🇮🇹❤😍 Grazie ~
Remember kids: it's always ok to roast the ISU.
Thank you! Thank you so much for uploading this video, and also with subs. Now I FINALLY understand what a Lutz (and flutz!) jump is. Now I finally understand why people (deservedly) complain so much about wrong lutzes. I can se clearly now! Very didatic.
I still watch this video. So goood.
AMBESI AND DOLFINI IS ALWAYS THE BEST!! Thank You, Koola for making this vid! :D
Wonderful. I've honestly lost all faith in figure skating, particularly the judging and treatment of minors. It's a shame, because there's no form of movement quite like figure skating: halfway between dancing and flying. I fell in love as a little girl, but as an adult I see that it will never be fair.
Omg i loved this video so much