Kim Yuna Adelina Sotnikova Sochi 2014 Scandal
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2017
- Never forget....
*Small Edit: at 10:55 to about 11:15; The table for ChSq1 did not show up.
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Adelina (Sochi) +1.50 GOE
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From the bottom of my heart - thank you for this video. 🙏
I've seen so many comparisions like this but they were all missing something. You covered *everything*.
Most of the world knows Sochi was fixed but there's never enough evidence. 😂
It's so heartwarming to see people remembering this horrible joke of a competition - I'm not the only one still bitter after almost 4 years!
Frankly, I don't think I will never not be. 😜
Yuna was *miles* above adelina with her major mistakes and inflated scores. Just a big, fat robbery.
Stay salty my friends...
No comparison. Adelina was WAY better than Yuna
Lmao, good one 😂
No evidence still. Technical controller and nine different judges from all over the world decided the event FAIRLY :)
Adelina was better, Kim had a simpler program
Execution is a thing. She did more difficult program poorly not getting the deductions she should get.
Yuna was -almost- flawless so her GOE's should have closed the gap. Ha! Would have closed the gap if the event wasn't rigged.
No matter how hard Adelina tries she will always be known as the woman who stole The queens Gold
Denisee Why are so many people blaming Adelina? She didn't bribe the judges. All she did was be there and be Russian. If you're gonna blame someone blame the right people eh?
well then why didn't she give her gold medal to yuna then? if she felt so sorry and unfair for yuna but she didn't did she!!! has she even said anything about this situation. real athletes don't cheat. it's better to accept defeat than cheat.
I mean if one day Adelina becomes a great figure skater (unlikely) and wins championships without cheating (unlikely) then maybe she will get herself another title but as I’ve said before it’s unlikely
angila lingden "real athletes don't cheat." HAHAHAHAHA
The world of sport is the same as the world of politics. You are a naive person.
Ann Nee She (Adelina) behave AWFUL on that olympics, she should have known she was not that good and instead of feeling bad she talked about it like she was the best in the world, was so rude on that press conference and etc. She really never deserved all that was given to her so easily.
the funny thing is me watching this video having literally no idea what all that figure skating language is
Same...
Neither do I but I can still see Adelina's mistakes 😂 the forms are so different
Me too. I’m into rhythmic gymnastics.
same😂
believe me, i too tried to understand.. i got nothing lol but interesting video tho
“Oh, so close to Kim. That is... that is very generous, coming from the judges panel.” THE SHADE!!! THE SHADE OF IT ALL
Johnny Weir was born in the shade
When silver shined brighter than gold.
Love this!
Fr
yes.
fun fact: the the silver medal is made of pure silver, hence being the only "real" medal,, the gold one is gold plated silver and bronze is 95% copper and 5% zinc
I like silver more than gold.. fudge gold.
“-female commentator pissed to high heavens-“ is my favorite subtitle ever
Same lol
Honestly a mood if I’ve ever seen a mood
Fixing is very obvious that the commentators are so 😡 pissed off 😤
@Mirissa Gli scleri italiani non sono sottotitolabili
Sme
I'm proud to be Italian because of these commentators
Antonio della Ventura omg i loved their commentary. - from romania
Antonio della Ventura u should be 🤣
Antonio della Ventura
Yes! Be broud forever!
These Italian commentators said what everyone was feeling in their Hearts!
These judge devils take the gold and the crown from the Queen Yuna and give it to the a worthless grass root.
I'm angry yet today!
Today is it november 2019 and right now is it a male skater from U.S. who totally overscored everywhere.
He is technically great but anyway very overscored any other ways. You know Nathan.
Next time is it him who is Gold medalist in OG!
I only hope that he not need to be remembered like someone who steal a gold from another skater who is better than he is!??
It's not so happy situation to him if all only remember him like we all do with Sotnikova who has stolen gold in her possession!
Greetings to the brave Italian team from Sweden. 😊😍🙏🏽❤🙏🏽
@@tessmargauxhelen3035 lol
Love the Italian judges for keeping it real!
So in reality, it was not Yuna vs. Adelina. It was Yuna vs. the Judges.
Absolutely this.
Heartbreaking
The ladies and men field is exactly the same still, if not even worse, but now they robbed the pairs too. If this continues the sport will die within years... no one wants to see how federations buy their medals. The skaters can't do anything about it, they don't take the fans serious and money is more powerful than anything.
A part of Yuzuru Hanyu 's thesis was published yesterday...go read it. It's about judging and how should they change it. He really just wanna land that A4 cause the judges will hate him even more after he called them out.
@@darkflame3669 where can I find it? (Yuzuru’s thesis)
I can't send a link here cause yt will take it down but you can find it on Waseda's webside
I’m not even into figure skating but this showed up in my recommended and now I’m big mad about this
same I have no idea how I got here but still I'm mad at things I don't even understand
I've literally never watched figure skating once and I don't even find the interesting but I've never been so fucking mad in my life
@@Meilk27 What happened? Can you explain a little?
@@bszenes1111 yuna Kim skated beautifully and the Russian skater was far less skilled. The Russian skater should have been deducted points for doing "cheat"versions of her toe pick jumps which are done by transferring forward motion to upwards for jumps, but instead she used her outside skating edge and also prerotated, and failed to fully rotate her jumps. Kim executed PERFECTLY, a beautiful routine that was emotional and aesthetic. The Russian girl while a good skater of course was nowhere near the skill of Yuna Kim...there are breakdowns of how scoring works in slow motion and many points should have been deducted that were not, due to using the edge instead of the toe for jumps including the "lutz" where only the toe should be used. In slow motion and because of the wide long curve on the ice you can tell she used the edge. It's not open for debate as there is clear proof. Russia being involved in scandal and corruption as usual....sad. russia took gold, Kim Yuna was robbed. And the sad part is she reacted in a way where it seems like she expected it to happen like she was prepared to be screwed by russia. I hope this helps. I have never watched skating before and this is the rudimentary understanding I have after seeing this video and reading into it s bit further
@@Meilk27 Absolutely.
After the result declared yuna expression shows that she already knew this going to happen
She is sooo clam and professional
*calm 👍
Yet courageous to compete in injustice
Her fans know that she went through this kind of shit so many times for her entire career. Since South Korea has a weak background in figure skating and Yuna was a lonely genius who was born in such a country, it was her fate to fight against unfair situations. No surprise that she is so chill. I'm pretty sure she realized that she couldn't win after reviewing the results of the short program segment.
It’s in her mussel memory
She was uncharacteristically sad that entire Olympics. Arrival, press, training, competition - she seemed so sad the entire time.
My reaction would've been joey from friends reaction when he didn't win the award.
I think prior to the competition Yuna knew deep down this would happen and accepted it. When the results were announced she didn't look surprised. Yuna's performance made me teary eyed to see so much passion and talent
genbabez Because she was expecting to have a good lead since the short program (as it should have been) but she realized Adelina's scores and knew she could not beat Russia federation bribing ISU, nobody could have.
And despite that, like a true Champion, Yuna still skated a performance worthy of Gold. Her silver in this event will always shine like Gold. ❤️
thanks to us probaly not atall, probaly feels like shit, probaly dislikes yuna because of it
With the crowd, yuna kim's mother was crying and said she thought her daughter wouldn't even be able to get a bronze because the atmosphere there was so cold.
Doubt it, if Yuna should have know that she is going to be robbed she wouldn't have participated.
pov: youre not watching this on fullscreen and liking all the comments stating how unfair it was to queen yuna
absolutely
Not really liking just reading them
Are you my FBI agent ???👀👀
🤣👍👍
YESSS 😂
As a korean, I'm really happy to see how the world calls yuna kim a 'queen' and are mad on how she was robbed with the gold medal. Really happy and proud of the people. Thank you so much for calling her a queen.
We call her The Queen because she is!😊👑❤
Ice Queen yuna forever ❄️👑🥇
A queen will always be a queen
Aww "THE QUEEN"
We call her Queen, because she is deserving of the title. 👑
These Italian commentators are a huge mood
They represent our feeling really well
@@rismaaulia8349 exatly
Leyna Nguyen “NO NO NO NO NO!”
big mood lol
@@haveaniceday2574 *kim yuna, i'm sorry hah
Have A nice day how’s this the president’s fault??? It’s the committee oml...
OMG, I remember being so mad at this 3 years ago. Those italian commentators were so right and didn't give a fuck, they just wanted to express how they felt. Adelina's victory was unfair. I hope it won't repeat next year with other competitors like Hanyu and Chen or with the rest, otherwise, people wil get really mad.
Pamela Palma I can relate with your feeling. Seems Russia will do it again this season 😓
Russia every year proves that it is stronger than all that you can not say about Korea..lol
Оксана Мак But they also proved they need to DECIEVE and take things that BELONGS TO OTHER PEOPLE. They are hated because they CHEAT, and that's why they were banned from competitions like rio2016 and in 2018 they could not use their flags or represent Russia in Korea :P I'm happy I'm not from a country that needs to bribe and cheat to get what they want, what a shame.
about the doping scandal, all countries take dope, but only Russia gets it, Norway confirms that (almost the whole team has "asthma").If Russia really did buy something, foreign mass media had already been shouting about it for a long time, but only Korean people screamed and wrote
Оксана Мак That's not true, my country didn't heard it from Korean people, neither Korean media, so I'm sorry if I pop your bubble but all the world knows Russia cheats more than all the countries. Only Russian people don't want to believe that, but of course, it's their country so I'm not surprised.
Still one of the biggest robberies in figure skating right infront of the audience's eyes. It's already 2021 and I still haven't gotten over it.
It's 2022 and I'm still mad!
BRUH SAME i think every time i watch figure skating i get triggered
Sammmeee! And it's 2022
It's almost 2023 and I still am mad about it.
@@ciara4087 2023 and still fuming.
We all know Yuna was robbed of her gold. But it also gave her the chance to show grace and poise in the face of utter disgrace. She didn't need to prove her excellence in skating. In this competition, she proved her character, dignity, and class by gladly conceding to the result. This might be the perfect ending to her competitive career.
This. Her performance spoke for itself and the world was not deaf. Meanwhile Sotnikova didn't know what humility was and had the AUDACITY to say she won because she had better technique than Kim. Even after her obvious little tap-dance on the 3F + 2T +2Lo. More jump attempts =/= better.
When you compare her jumps to Yuna's, Adelina actually looks like a sloppy kid. Honestly, if you want to this to be true and real competition, give her the scores she truly deserves.
faithonleaves yeah, I hate to say stuff like this but Adelina literally looked like me on the ice compared to Yuna. And maybe Adelina could have given Yuna the gold but that would be a hard thing to do. It was probably the height of her career and to give it away... Yuna was robbed but I don't blame Adelina, I blame the judges.
@@firstnamelastname6016 Adelina seems sweet but she definitely had an unfair advantage and the competition was definitely rigged (this is coming from someone who doesn't figure skate my opinion doesn't mean much)
@@firstnamelastname6016 I would usually feel bad for the skater who was gifted without any knowledge of it happening, but I believe she said many times after the event that she deserved and believed she was better than yuna in both routines. So that really rubbed people off the wrong way. That’s I think why there isn’t many comments sympathising with her.
I love the fact that the other Olympic ice skate winners were standing up for Yuna
When?
@@vminfeels8831 if you listen to the comments towards the end you'll see that the Olympic winners all agreed that she was truly the winner. Around 15:22
I love how all the commentators are like "well that was.... generous...."
Ikr the sarcasm in his voice was literal
Kim seemed very sad that entire Olympics. She knew what was going to happen, but she still handled it with grace.
It was sad to see. The way she laughed after seeing her score, it was like she knew this would happen
it’s literally 2020 and i’m mad HAHA
Hannah Lee SAME
Me and my sister get mad everytime we hear this
omg SAME LOOOL
THAT NEON MOTH DIDNT PERFORM A “FIGURE SKATING” INSTEAD SHE WIPED THE WHOLE ICE RINK CLEAN AND SHINY
Same here
I don't understand how Adelina sleeps at night. She has to know she didn't earn that gold medal. How bold was she to run straight to the arms of the judge who helped her cheat! She hasn't been shit since. SMDH
Kendra Williams She didn't cheat, and it can't have been just one judge. It takes a lot of judges to inflate a score. So Russian officials must have bribed or pressured a bunch of the judges. Adelina wouldn't have had that kind of clout.
Ann Nee She knew she didn't earn that gold so in my mind she's still a cheater. Who runs into the judges arms after a win?! I'm sure the judge texted her or her coach.
Gene Elliott You mean like yourself? You don't know what I know! I know one thing she didn't deserve that medal! This is a public forum. I say whatever I like so you should go back to your mom's basement and have several seats!!
Gene Elliott First of all you already loss just by replying to a 2 month old comment. A grown ass man getting offended over a 17 year old figure skater screams pedophilia. So indeed you are the biggest looser! Goodbye!
Gene Elliott see did I hit a nerve?! Next time you will learn to stay in your lane! Don't come for me unless I send for you!! Go run tell that!!
damnn I knew the queen was robbed but I never knew she was ROBBED robbed
She was blatantly robbed they didn't even try to hide the cheating. That's just plain disrespectful
Have passed eight years and I can’t never get over this 😭😭😭😭
Me neither...Sotnikova's skating is SO mediocre.
me too
The podium should’ve been
Yuna - Gold
Carolina - Silver
Gracie - Bronze
Sotnikova - somewhere else
in 2018 PeyongChang: Who? Sotoniva? Never heard of her.
@@user-tp8qc3wq9d Yeah sure, if you can call those "Quads."
BOI russian figure skaters always win in Olympics and they stay strong
@@nattooshay.18 вот именно
Elaine Ran Adelina’s win here was a farce but Gracie for bronze?
I was there in 2014. I remember that somehow there was hostility in the air for Yuna. When the scores came out after some delay the Russian spectators went nuts as if rubbing it in the face, not out of pure joy. I got all emotional and cried a bit because the whole affair was so unfair for Yuna. On the way out I went to the ladies' room to wash my face, and there were three young Russian women by the sink next to mine. They saw that I'd been crying and guess what they said: CONGRATULATIONS. With an obvious sneer. It was just... WOW. To this day that pure malice occasionally haunts me.
How disgusting! The hostility was real, in fact even in the Olympic video of Yuna's Sochi performance I see blinding camera flashes from the crowd multiple times throughout the video.
Even Yuna's mother cried of relief when she heard Yuna at least won a silver. She said she was sure Yuna might not even get any medal because of how hostile the atmosphere was at the time.
In my opinion, this makes Yuna even more of a queen. She remained calm, humble and didn't disrespect her opponent, the judges or Russian people in the arena, which were obviously all out to get her. Everyone knows she did her thing perfectly and only some Russians will ever deny it. This reflects her personality and even though I'm sad she was robbed of that medal, I'm proud that she showed the true qualities of a queen. In reality, many will remember Yuna much more because of the way things played out in 2014. Ironically, Russia has made this memory of her immortal. Yuna, in our hearts, you're the undisputed Nr. 1!
Frido Iten what happened ? Like the full story because I’m only finding out about this now ? Please help
@@daniella3116 Yuna Kim was totally robbed of her rightful Gold in figure skating due to the Russians homecooked cheating. The Russian audience was cold as their winter, so hostile to Yuna. They were all trying to bring her down but she persevered and got the Silver. For the first time in the history of Olympics, 2014 Sochi Ladies Figure skating, the Gold was Silver that year. The fake Gold Medalist Adelina never won any major competition before the Sochi Olympics. After Sochi, she basically dropped out from skating bec she kept falling during performances, making "excuses" with injury to avoid competitions, while being on TV dancing shows(like Dance with Stars in Russian version) and dancing despite her "injury". I realize the Russians can lie like there's no tomorrow, but when the tomorrow came, they were banned from the Olympics due to too much cheating/doping. lol
I literally know nothing about figure skating, but when I see the comparison, the Russians performance looks a bit sloppy
ok
I agree
They kinda honestly flop around and throw some difficult elements in, they also cheat a lot so I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some kind of bribe going on here.
@@Lowdermoomoo the russians dont flop around wym? yulia, alina, evgenia, anyone who comes out of the shitty ass bitch eteri comes out a short lived champion but nonetheless have AMAZING performances. the russians r very good. THIS was a yuna vs the judge thing
Sound like how i would describe lol
This is so sad. Kim was cheated and adelina now has a stain on her legacy.
All cheating scandals are lose-lose scenarios
I am from Russia, but I TOTALLY AGREE with the comments. Yuna was and is an Olympic Gold Champion of 2018 . She is a true winner!
of 2014
Concept Solutions А нам плевать с высокой вышки , согласны вы или нет . Имя Аделины Сотниковой на века вписано в историю ОИ .
Arina Yamsen Ким Юна единственный настоящий золотой чемпион той олимпиады
Concept Solutions yeah russia should be ashamed
Согласен. Мне было бы стыдно получать золотую медаль за такое... а им хоть бы что
14:33 the girl wearing the yellow vest. Her face tells it all...
Edward A I saw her reaction too!! Lol
Most of these commentators are former Figure Skaters, so they know what they saw. The ISU NEEDS to select new board members!
Even to a mere starter like me, the difference is hilariously obvious. The finesse, ease and beauty of the art Yuna performed is incomparable with the other lady whoever she is... Stealing ab Queens crown doesn't make one a Queen!
This is so true and is proved from the fact that Adelina could not win any major competition since then, also before then. Actually, this is not her fault, but ISU and Russia's fault. She might have been living much happier life, satisfied with a bronze medal if there had not been for their too much greed for the gold medal which nobody respects.
Agreed. That poor Adeline was probably put on a spot she never realized she didn't belong. Shame on Russia and IOC.
Adelina was 2nt prior to the Olympics )) u r ignorant))
Fen Sun
shame on U that U R so biased and ignorant)) and begrudging as well out of disappointment that Adelina was much better)))
Billy Lee Have you ever heard of the basketball team in special olympics one year that cheated by having a team of able bodied people essentially? Did the end justify the means? I don’t think so
@@deeppurplejaguar 2nd place is not winning a competition.
This is just so sad. I know that Yuna said that she wasn't as "desperate" for the gold anymore, but that does not mean that she didn't want it. The Russian and American media twisted her words around and tried to make her seem like someone who was arrogant enough to compete at the Olympics without competing throughout the season. Under any normal circumstances, she would've won with 6 triples. I do think, though, that she should have tried to up her technical difficulty, even if she was miles ahead of her competitors to avoid problems like a mediocre skater beating her with more jumps (which is ridiculous). Whenever I see Adelina's posts or videos, I cannot help but feel like she's just too lucky and a fraud. Even Yulia suffered more and had to go through so many obstacles, whereas Adelina had everything handed to her literally.
I do think she would have tried to up her technical difficulty but her body was failing her by that point. Her body was so damaged, it's a wonder she managed to skate as well as she did
Jorge Bonilla If you think about it from their point of view, Yuna Kim was still quite young at that time for a figure skater. She could've still continued on competing and winning medals. Retiring after Vancouver would have been a waste of her talent and many of her fans still desired to see her skate. In the end, she found the motivation to compete again and that was because she wanted to bring her fellow South Korean skaters to the Olympics. That is a very noble thing of her to do. She didn't have to do that, but she did it out of the goodness of her heart. Look at Adelina today, she completely lost the motivation to compete. She uses the same excuse of injuries to not come back to compete against her fellow peers, whereas Yuna skated through injuries in Sochi. I'm pretty sure that any country would've wanted their "national treasure" to keep on competing if she still had a few more years on her, as harsh as that sounds.
Adelina supports her family, including her disabled sister, who requires a large number of operations. She's a nice kid, and though this was wrong, she hasn't had everything handed to her, and this was definitely not her fault.
amrican media is sht. look at nathan chen being sooo pressured rn.
Ким-2 место!!!
I love the honesty of the commentators at the beginning of the video. I can tell that they really care about the sport and are genuinely upset with how unfair the whole situation was.
Russia if won bronze would have gained respect and appreciation, this is what we call greed- it not only made her winning gold worthless but also now people hate Russia for cheating now.
I love the real winner of Olympic 2014 Yuna Kim
but she didn't.
cat loran Hence why they said the REAL winner because even people that don't know a thing about skating know that Russia fucked with scores and inflated them.
cat loran that’s why this video came out. Because that unfair!
she is not. the real winner is Lipnitskaya and nobody e v e r can be compared to Her!! but she became nervous and fell)) this is competition and shit happens)))!
deeppurplejaguar the real winner of EVERY competition is the one who skated the best. In the team event Yulia was the best and the real winner. In the individual... sorry, no. "this is competition and shit happens" - you've said it yourself
I'm russian and I don't even like her. Like, I beg your pardon ma'am? Everyone knows you don't deserve that gold and you never will. I know I'm late, but I'm still pissed about this.
you've earned my respect. thanks for acknowledging the rightful winner Queen Yuna...
Are you really Russian?????
@@BuckheadVolvoS4 да
@@ari-xk4mf I see.. I asked this because I couldn’t believe what you wrote.. I totally disagree with you... It’s sad that Russian think the way like you.
@@BuckheadVolvoS4 to each their own. but i’m judging based off the skating, not my biases.
She still managed to keep her smile... YUNA YOU ARE THE TRUE QUEEN.
now here we are in 2022 with a group of russian 15 year olds from the same coach getting replaced every season because they aren't allowed to age past 17 without career ending injuries and getting golds with dangerous and backloaded quads. women's figure skating died in sochi and it's so sad
lmao. it's stupid
*Alexandra and Anna are 17.* *Anna's almost 18.* *Kamila is almost 16.*
*Eteri wasn't Adelina's coach.*
EXACTLY
@@sheet-music she coached yulia tho
@@jenniepeach6764 we are talking about Adelina.
14:33 lady in the back the only person who knows something’s up lol
Russian sucks just like communism.
I need her face for most things in life any more.
Yes I also saw that..
She’s like: are they for real right now?
The worst gold metalist..unfair.
You shouldve seen when Roy Jones Jr got robbed in Korea xD
Olympics as a whole is a sham.
James Freeman
That's right, but if what happened in Korea in 1988 happened in Russia in 2014, does that mean Russia is still staying in 1988?
@@Sinnamunhui well, sometimes I feel that in some aspects we're still in the 19th century.
@@Losyara_pozornyj Russia scams internationally in the cutting-edge era of advanced media.
@@jamesfreeman7954 well i know....but russia killed the entire mood and purpose of this Olympic....i guess they just have no shame in their blood🤷
I lost it at the commentator dryly saying "That is very very very generous of the judging panel." and "Wow. Now that is surprising. etc" You can see the rigging from miles away, captain!
The fact that she knew and her coaches definitely knew yet had the audacity to celebrate like you deserve the gold is amazing.
I know I have already stated this before but Yuna is a WHOLE different league than Adelina I mean really if a casual fan who by no means is literate in figure skating technical scores can see your mistakes there is a fucking problem
Agree with you!
It's 2020. I'm still pissed. Yuna is robbed. 😔
It's 2021 still pissed Roy Jones JR. 1988 Soul scandal. Olympics..host country will always have adv.
2021..really pissed that ISU are never going to change...corrupt to the bone...
I'd be embarrassed for a lifetime if I was Adelina.
Welp, she retired :) Who would want to skate after becoming known as the gold thief anyway. The entire skating community knows what she did.
People will always remember Queen Yuna but forget the name of one who stole her Olympic gold
No one even really remembers her only as the olympic robber. People only know yulia and yuna.
I wasnt a big fan of figure skating but i knew who those 2 were but not the olympic medalist. I knew a russian won but thought it was yulia not this girl.
I am still bitter after 5 years and I am glad to know that I am not the only one. Would there ANY WAY or campaign that we can sign to return the gold metal to Yuna?
back in 2014 I couldn't even imagine that someday I'll be disappoited with our first Olympic champion in the ladies...nowadays, hearing Adelina's "promises to return to competition" after 3-4 years of absence (not mentioning all the video analyses of her skating) I really want to return that medal to Yuna. The question is would she accept it
i dunno, burn the damn ISU office i guess. that would do
wow, I didn't expect you here
@@evakoshkaa LMAOO
As a Korean I'm (pleasantly) surprised that it's not just the Koreans who were aghast and infuriated at the result. We made a formal protest and everything but they didnt listen. We thought we were the only ones who felt it was unfair. Turns out it's international, I'll be damned.
Gotta love these Italian commentators 😂
The English speaking ones are too politically correct to say anything but these guys don't give a flying fuck - they just tell it as it is!
Also comments at the end of the video from all the figure skating greats make me happy and heartbroken at the same time. Yuna really *should* join the 2 OGM's club. 😢
And she would have if the competition was anywhere else than Russia. 😠
Yes totally! The English speaking judges are a bore to say the least! Either too afraid to speak the truth or silly, easily manipulated by group-think and unquestioning.
Bright Darkness after adelina stumbled in one of her jump combo one English commentator said "doing a little dance at the end" oh my fucking. English commentators are suck ups
Both NBC and the English commentators are suck ups. It was disgusting seeing experienced commentators fabricate the commentary while being held at gun point by the Russian Skating Federation. CBC and the Italians were the only ones not having it. You can always count on the Canadians and Italians to be just and fair.
Sorry but not the Canadians. They are so biased for their own skaters.
2021 and still pissed as hell. This is the most shameful event in the history of sport.
2022 Olympics saw this and said "hold my beer"
I'm russian and have been skating as a child. Well, we had and have a lot of really good skaters and yes, in past, there were times when I felt that our champions were jujed unfairly and received too low scores. But this time I agree. Adelina was very young, and seemed raw, and was obviously under mental pressure she couldn't bear. While Yuna was just flawless.
I'm really, really not an expert^^, but I always had the strong feeling, especially in the late 80s and early 90s, that Russian athletes in (Olympic) figure skating were rated a bit worse for no reason. The thought that this was politically motivated and collectively accepted left me with a very sinking feeling in my stomach. But to be fair... as a spectator (of the Olympic Games) at the time, it was assumed that all Russian, Eastern Bloc and Chinese athletes were badly doped. And we know today that this was true. However, also for western countries. But a lot has changed since then and you're right to be angry. Nobody trusts a Russian winner anymore. Only Russians who can ignore everything else enjoy the medals. All other Russians who understand true competition will be betrayed, sold and defamed.
@@Jezzebel1313 was not true. no one proved it. sports is a business and making bad pr to some countries works on profit to other. and as in general, "west" never liked russia, or china - same approach happens in sports.
4 years later, I still feel angry. It is widely known that she was the gold medal thief. The gold medalist in our mind is Kim Yuna.
Clearly, we aren't the judges but that doesn't imply that we have poor discernment and even from the point of view of the audience it was preposterous that Adelina got the gold.
The fact that even non-figure skaters like us know that Kim Yuna outperformed Sotnikova by miles really says something about the whole situation.
damn. Im korean and this was HUGE news among koreans when it happened; i was really young back then so i didnt really get it, so im just learning what really happened now.
I began watching this with determination to stay unbiased.
I have no knowledge of figure skating (haha ballerina..) but the landing on two feet just really wasnt it.
Russians were expecting Yulia to beat Yuna not that girl. As Yulia made mistakes they had to give another girl hell lot of inflation. Cuz they knew Sotnikova was not even a match with S tier skaters like Kim and Caro or even Mao. If you've been watching figure skating for long time, u will know how silly and desperately they made that score. For example I can barely think of programs Yuna got level 4 in step sequence. She didn't even got level4 in Vancouver. I heard it is enormously hard to get level 4 in step sequence. But look at that. Ez step4 lol. They even wanted to give her cheaty 0.6 points cuz they were too afraid of Yuna.
Here is the analysis of just how much ISU robbed Yuna.
ua-cam.com/video/P7z6gG--j7M/v-deo.html
Doesn't that remind you of something?! REMEMBER HOW IRINA SLUTSKAYA WAS ROBBED OF GOLD IN SALT-LAKE?!!!! Their ''queen'' Kwan also fucked up, so they made some unknown girl a champion just cause she was American. Cause - if you're American, you're better than any other nation, right? Everybody else is just a worthless worm under your feet, right? Kind of a fascist reasoning here, to my mind. Anyway, what was I leading up to? Oh - yeah. EAT IT. If they can do it to us, why can't we do it to them? Fair and square.
@lula mae uhh yuna is from south korea lol & I am glad cheating makes you feel better how many medals did russia get in the olympics this year without cheating? .. please hunnie atleast you admit you're cheaters cause ur butthurt over past olympics so u can go eat that
Rinoa Menna preach girl 👏👏👏
Oh get off, little losers. Before you preach, by the way, at least learn how to spell the simplest words like ''honey''. Oh - and no - I'm not your honey. Of course we could not get a lot medals since they didn't let our best athletes compete without even producing and tangible proof that they had actually cheated. It was like ''Oh, you're Russian too. No, you can't come''. And the people who did compete found it incredibly hard because they were truly disheartened, deprived of their flag and anthem and upset for their friends who were not allowed to go. So - when' you're saying things like ''How many medals did you get now that most of team is gone'' is like saying to someone who lost their leg ''How many miles did you run now that your leg is gone?'' Nasty and unfair. That's what the Olympic committee is like, anyway.
Poor Yuna Kim..... poor Adelina Sotnikova. They both did well. Now, because of the judges, Yuna Kim has been robbed of gold and Adelina Sotnikova's reputation is ruined.
No sympathy to Adelina Sotnikova. She should have given up her gold if she had any integrity.
No, Sotnikova didn't do well. She did awfully. She showed very poor and weak performance.
@@Zaeabun im sorry what?? No one has to give up something they were given.
@@Zaeabun I don’t think anyone would just give up a gold medal
@@Zaeabun ok but be real, if you won gold you would just take it- don't be a 'good' person and give it up...
1:17 - "They had to win a competition and because Lipnitskaya didn't make it they had to give it to Sotnikova"
THIS basically sums it all up.
Sotnikova is a great skater, I won’t take that away from her, but she can’t be compared to Yuna, Yuna is in another level, a league of her own. In my opinion Yuna is and will always be the true winner, the gold was hers. Yuna’s skating is absolutely flawless, she’s so comfortable with the hardest elements that she just makes them look so smooth, elegant and effortless, absolutely one of a kind. As I said Sotnikova is a great skater and I mean no disrespect but she was not better than Yuna.
Thank you so much for this video, excellent analysis, I forgot to say, in my opinion Yuna was gold, Carolina silver and Sotnikova bronze 💙⛸
I was very new to figure skating in Sochi and I couldn't tell back then why people were so bitter about Adelina winning, I did not have the trained eye that many fans have. Now after following the sport for most of 5 years now, I can clearly see the corruption that went on in Sochi. Yuna Kim was robbed, plain and simple and Kostner should have a silver. I'm not sure if Adelina's programmes are even medal worthy. Thank you for this video, it was very insightful and educational.
Yeahh exactly even the commentator said that it was surprising for Adelina’s score to even be 8 points ahead of Kostner
You're right! It was not worth a medal. Her rightful place would have been at most a four. So it's more than The Queen who were robbed of their rightful places in this competition because the judges fixed the fake gold for Sotnikova. What I wonder is how can these judges sleep well at night?
I saw this on live TV and all commentators said the same thing, this was robbery!!!!
Yuna was perfect! She deserved to win.
But there's a place in hell for people like those juries and there's a place in heaven for stars like Yuna. She's retired and yet everybody knows her. That's what you call a LEGEND.
I still remember being very upset when Yuna Kim was robbed. When bias and unfair judging occurs it robs not only the true winner of her win, but it taints the game and the host country. The IOC needs to make sure that rules and standards be put into place that cannot be compromised for fair judging.
It was a shame, it was a scandal. People will only remember Sotnikova's ugly and dirty win.
@@user-xc2ey6yd3d BUT still, if she had any morals or respect for herself, she should've stood up and said that this was not a fair judgement (which it wasn't). Even from people like me who doesn't know anything about ice skating, it was not a fair match. Russia should feel guilty and ashamed of themselves. Russia is just full of cheaters.
@@user-xc2ey6yd3d I didn't mean the Russian people, the players like Sotnikova. Russia is full of cheaters in sports. It's not only this incident there was the doping incident as well. Now, Russia is banned from the 2020 olympics.
@@sujipollard4346 Yeah guess what happens to her and her loved ones if she speaks up against the government...
@@sujipollard4346 not only in sports :)
lol i'm italian and i laughed out loud hearing the italian
commentators
Long Live the Queen Yuna, You are the real Queen on the ice!!!
Yuna Kim 🥇🥇🥇 and Carolina Kostner 🥈🥈🥈: Queens of figure skating.
The true champions !!!!!
all i can say is wer is she now??? Yuna is still the QUEEN....
chedie bedos
She owns a nail salon XD She doesn't skate anymore
@@sieraj6817 Sotnikova. Yuna is filthy rich at this point. She doesn't need to have a nail salon.
This is fantastic! I watch Yuna Kim's Sochi performances every year. They bring me to tears with their beauty and skill. She will always be a Two Time Gold Medalist to the true fans of Figure Skating. As Katerina said "She was perfect" xxoo
think this story deserve to be made a film (like i tonya perhaps)..a biograph about kim yuna, after the parasite, i think korea can get another oscar award...
I can't wait for the day that a big documentary not only exposes, but brings all of the world's attention to the dirt and cheating that's gone on for years behind the curtain of figure skating. I've heard of so many unfair figure skating scandals, but none of them every make big enough news, nor is anyone ever punished for the unfairness.
Yuna Kim's LUTZ-TOE combination got her 39.02 TES while Adelina's TOE-TOE combination got her 39.09 TES. Truly shameful.
This is so fcking depressing
I’m not even a korean but I love yuna because of her REAL TALENT!
Those Russian Judges did her dirty ! I’m so mad! 😭🖕🏻
2022 this STILL grinds my gears. That girl was robbed.
Yuna Kim fell with grace and calmness, there will never be another skater like her. An absolutely over-scored skater robbed the gold. Yuna Kim won everything, she has a grand slam, she can’t even be compared to Adelina.
How sad for Adelina for getting a gold medal which she don't deserve and with no one's respect!!
starfish2046 maybe just only with russian😭
@@kyr9853 lmao no
@김동구리 i know, I'm russian ))
I pity her. If that was me I would be super excited at the time too but if I saw a video ( I need the explanation since I don’t typically watch figure skating) I would be embarrassed and humiliated. She might not be innocent tho bc she hugged the judges...
Honestly the gold just made Adelina's career worse
Seeing this makes me feel that Yuna wasn’t the only skater to be affected by this. It has perplexed me that Mao Asada was 16th at the end of the short program, I know she had a bad time but given the caliber of skater she was, her other SP elements should have ranked her far higher. She did win the world championship that year after all.
ophelia dikki Mao Asada made quite a lot mistakes in her sp. but she had a great FS
It was a shame, given that she did an awesome FS. But she fell on the 3A and doubled her 3Lo
Me, who has ABSOLUTELY no clue about figure skating: "YES GIRL, spill the tea!!
still cant understand how some idiots are rambling on about the technical elements - the bielmann(i mean, seriously, the BIELMANN? while somebody is blissfully doing a two-foot landing? shame on you), the missing one triple (again, deliberately ignoring the rotations) - whereas Sotnikova did a 3T-3T in the short. they never explain how narrow the gap between yuna and adelina was after the SP despite the huge technical difference. 74 for a program with an opening 3t3t jump? just wow.
It's so frustrating that we have to explain. people forgot she did 3T-3T in the short and there is only one point gap of base value between both skaters. JUST they don°t match. her PCSs are so inflated as hell.
11:00
Adelina : *casually waves during an olympic performance*
Everyone : ???
Judge : *waves back*
Everyone : ?????????????????????
(I don't know or think this is what happened, but I just find her waving ridiculous, just shows how little tension she has because she knows she is guaranteed a gold medal)
I don’t think it was appropriate to wave anyway. From that point on, her program looked like an elementary school show in my opinion.
7:38 wow..kim yuna was so stable..but sotnikova was...umm....risky..
@hyacintho luna even I, someone who's never been into figure skating, can tell how awkward Adelina's form is. Especially compared to Yuna, who flows so smoothly.
In 14:32 even the lady in the background looks confused
I'm Korean. I feel so disgusted about rotting the Ice federation as a Korean. We've been resentful for a lot of time since the game. But I don't know what the problem with the Russian player is. I can say just "thank you" for this video. I hope this terrible robbery doesn't repeat. I feel grateful to everyone who reads my poor English lamentation. Thanks.
your English is fine, A+ for your effort.... and also your profile pic. 👌😂
So obvious that Adelina did not deserve to win. Olympic committee thought they have fixed the problem with the judges. This is still a big problem with Figure Skating. I'm just glad that this video are calling this mess. Yuna Kim won that 2014 Olympic
I still get so mad at this even after 5 years... It was so unfair and makes me almost cry whenever I think about it. Since I was a small Korean girl, I've always admired Kim Yuna and she was my role model even though I major in art rn. Her mentality and bravery never fails to motivate me! I just feel so bad for our one and only queen..
This probably one of the most deplorable moments in the history of figures skating & sports. Yuna Kim is a two time olympic gold medalist and this is indisputable :)
I'm not even remotely interested in figure skating and I'm raging right now. I can only empathize with the deserving winner and what one must feel after dedicating the amount of effort and time, practically your full life to get at this level of competition, just to be so blatantly robbed... It must be devastating.
fun fact: I wrote about this in my ap lang argumentative essay last year
serving the queen justice years later !!!
Shooooooot That's legendary. Did you get 5? haha
@@dydwnsTJ I got a 4! I always sucked at the multiple choice in lang. I’m a decent to average student & was expecting a 3 on the exam, so I was still pretty proud of myself lmao
@@karlycrabb good job :)
After 5 years, still sad...
Sad to see Yuna's performance being abused by stupid politics and currupted ISU....
As a skater, she is something 'made in heaven'; Her talent and effort are gift from god to human being... Thank you Yuna.
you are fool...
Honestly I’m starting to think there’s a thing called Russian privilege in figure skating
There is no doubt, especially in Women’s Figure Skating, all you have to do is watch the last Olympics, and see the Russian girls inflated scores to realize it.
@@annehancock6734 особенно когда у Косторной Алёны никогда не было проблем с ребром в каскаде тройке флипп тулуп, но когда она и Трусова и Щербакова заполнили пьедестал то ребра стали не ясными.
Хм значит все то время что она каталась в юниорском сезоне было все в порядке? И первый год взрослого катания, когда поняли что уже не остановить, стали вписывать не ясные ребра
One of the best video on UA-cam. Using pure facts and evidences to prove a point and not like many others spreading conspiracy without actual evidences support. This video really proves corrupted judges are actually a thing
For me, yuna kim is the real olympic gold medal at sochi.
I personally favor Adelina, but this is just crazy! This is absolute nonsense! These judges are absolute lunatics to place Sotnikova above Yuna, when she QUITE CLEARLY earned the points. If people on UA-cam who DONT EVEN HAVE A JOB JUDGING FIGURE SKATING can judge better than the judges at Sochi, we have a problem.
I salute you for your true sight!
I am not sure I would place all the blame on the judges. I think it was a combination of some dirty judges and russian sports corruption. There is an Oscar winning documentary about Russian Olympic cheating. I believe it is not just their skaters or judges, but rather their system that is corrupt.
@@skatingcanuck9837 I believe it's called Icarus.
I am Korean. Thank you for this video.
я согласна, что Сотниковой здорово наплюсовали! Я согласна, что золото здесь заслуживала Юна!
I know Russia wanted hard their first gold medal in ladies figure skating and winning at home seemed like a good chance. But why push it so hard...? Russian figure skating was already growing so much in talent, that their time was coming.. They won at Pyeongchan gold and silver. And because of this cheating, they just ruined everything, now the first female russian gold medalist in this sport is a cheater.
I get that Adelina Sotnikova is a great figure skater but you can't never compre with Yuna Kim. Yuna Kim is a queen of ice!! And the score differemce on Adelina Sotnikova when it's identical!!
Ok, as a teacher I finally get what a blatant inflation this is in terms of percentages. Like rounding up from a C to an A+.
ive never analyzed figure skating and don’t know anything about the point system. this was pretty informative though and taught me that such small mistakes cost greatly. i also learned that in competitions, russians will always get the favoritism factored into their scores if put against another ethnicity. im sad about yuna not getting her gold medal but also sad for katnikova because of everyone telling her she didn’t deserve it.. it was probably clear who the winner is (cough yuna).. and im sure she tried her hardest but thanks to the judges, katnikovas career is forever stained.
The Italians and Spanish aren’t politically correct specially as Americans or Canadians.
The British commentators also were surprised but way more discrete!
Also Katarina Witt the double Olympic champion was like wtf???
Thank God for her to say the truth!
Sorry.. I just saw the video.. There are no Spanish commentators... They're just Italians.. I can tell you that because I'm Italian
Right. I believe the British commentator said something like 'I can't say I agree with that score' when he said that I just thought Thank you. That win was such a disappointment. Yuna was robbed