Widely recognised by who? Certainly not other boxers or the press how can anyone who was never the official number 1 in his division and who lost to every world class boxer he fought don't forget Kessler beat after he was well beaten by Joe be considered the best boxer the UK as produced and please remind me which of the two are inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame.
Agreed Joe is the longest reigning British champ, how can you say Froch is most recognized? The same froch who got lucky in his first fight against a Groves which he shouldnt never have won.
Froch never avoided anyone but Calzaghe was avoided like the plague. Ottke turned down £1M because he knew he would get owned, Hopkins should have fought Calzaghe in 2002 but priced himself out. Joe just couldn't get the opportunities when he was younger, mostly because of Ottke hiding in Germany with his two belts, once he was gone the big fights happened. Always respect Lacy for giving him the shot at the unification, awful career move by Lacy though.
King Shlong its funny how you bring up Bute lost 4 after Froch beat him but you all praise Joe Calzaghe bullshit win over Roy Jones. Second explain what did Joe Calzaghe accomplish in the Super Middleweight division that your rank him over Andre Ward and Carl Froch who both fought top notch fighters. Sven Ottke also had 21 defense and im not a 100% sure buti think the after the 14 defense he held two belts. While the WBO belt wasn't recognize by the other organizations for the first 4 year he held the title
King Shlong yes i asked that question. One the difference between Froch and Ward they fought and beat everyone one in the Division. When Joe Calzaghe was champion you had Sven Ottke who at the time held two legitimate belts and defended them 21 times just as Joe Calzaghe did with the WBO belt which was trash. When Andre Ward went to Light Heavyweight and fought and stop Kovale in their second fight unlike Joe Calzaghe who chose Roy Jones thay lost 3 in a row two by back to back knockout. But keep selling that bullshit. Im from the states where fighters take on all comers something Carl Froch did with pride and greatness
King Shlong once again with pure bullshit. Once he won against Mikkel Kessler and won the WBC and WBA belt he gave them up to fight Hopkins and shell shock Roy Jones. In my early post Carl Froch and Sven Ottke one two belts and defended it multiple times unlike Joe Calzaghe
Fluffy Snow doggo explain that to me when Andre Ward and Carl Froch fought better competition and beat everyone in the division. While Carl Froch held two belts defended it multiple times while Joe Calzaghe held the WBO belt which champion wasn't ranked by the other for the first 4 years he had it and you also had Sven Ottke who held two belts and also defended his belts 21 times
Stop the bullshit. You in a country that respect fighters. Yes look at Carl Froch Resume Jean Pascal, Lucine Bute, Mikkel Kessler, Glen Johnson, Arthur Abraham, Andre Direll win disputed and George Grove
@@martytdd1606 No it wouldn't have. Froch had zero defence. He would have been punched to death by Calzaghe, his work rate and punch output would have done him.
Calzaghe could of made it look easy, then again carl froch could catch and finish him in the 12th and it wouldn't have shocked me, both were tremendous fighters!
@@intothewild5045 Well Lewis would have to be over Joe. It could be debated that prime for prime he would've beaten every single all-time great heavyweight throughout history (yes, even Ali from the 60s) whereas Joe would've most likely lost to a prime Andre Ward and definitely would've gotten knocked out by a prime Roy. He's not even the best in the history of his own weight division so how could he be the greatest British fighter ever?
@@brandonlamb9067 What a load of absolute bollocks. What would Andre Ward have brought to the table that would "most likely" have seen Joe Calzaghe off?? You think he'd have knocked Calzaghe out? outworked him? what? How did Ward beat Calzaghe? As for Roy Jones? One of the best P4P boxers of all time. But not at SuperMiddleweight. Tell me his greatest accomplishments at 168? He didnt even unify the titles. He only had around 6 fights at the weight and apart from a great win against a fat James Toney (who never fought at 168 again) he only fought old men and bums Both Ward and Calzaghe have better records at SuperMiddleweight. But you wouldnt know that would you ya numpty
@@H.K.5 he had heart he was losing against Kessler and even Kessler's words he learnt on the fly to switch it up and changed his style lot of boxers said he hits hard when everyone said he slaps including eubank Joe got lot of hate to this day but he never gave up even when he had broken bones in his hand he basically had to fight with broken hand he went thru the trenches trained like a monster and was super fit never ran out of steam and yes junior was not his prime but neither was Joe both at the end of there boxing game who would have won froch or Joe who knows
DB Cooper don't underestimate froch he is the toughest in that division literally he is stronger than calzaghe by far and joe knows it but he was humble here even though he is a fighter himself
im sick of fools like you who know nothing about nothing ward is technically better not stronger u idiot go do some research then come back and talk to me
DB Cooper Why didn't he fight him then ? I am not a fan of either , but Joe should keep quiet about Carl. You don't hear Steve Collins talking about Joe. Steve could not get up for Joe same as Joe could not get up for Carl. If Carl can't get up for James Degale , Joe should shut up coz Joe would not fight Carl
jack chan Why would Joe fight him 49 and 0 he had nothing to prove. Froch is not even the number one in his division. Froch kept calling Joe out after he retired because Joe at his best would have destroyed the wooden Froch. As for Collins and Joe watch the Sky programme where Eubank accused Collins of running scared, Eubank faced both of them and in his opinion, which I respect because he fought both of them and was not an armchair warrior like you, he said Joe would have done him. Joe one the all time undefeated great World Champions Froch a journey man with a half decent record but an over inflated opinion of his ability.
Spot on,froch showed no class calling out Joe when hes close to 50,if froch has something to prove come back and get in the mix with a generation younger than him.
Joe Calzaghe all day. Too fast and too awkward for Carl. No comparison. But not to discredit Carl, who has consistently shown that hard-work and tenacity can take you far.
John Doe It doesn't matter about time if they had ever met Joe would have beaten him. Froch was lucky to finish second in the Super 6 Taylor boxed his head off and was unlucky to lose the fight. A low standard competition and he should have finished third and he is claiming Calzaghe's crown. A total loser and anyone who backs him knows nothing about boxing.
The mongo is you and Froch because by doing what Froch did he tried to bring it into the present day.If Froch had done that in the day Joe would have battered the shit into that brain dead northerner
bampie1 It brought it into the present day? It's called fantasy match ups. There's nothing wrong with surmising. Calzaghe would of won a decision in a competitive match up.
Two great fighters, but Joe was exceptional. I remember Kessler saying it was like fighting two people because if Joe's A game was'nt working he would come out next round with plan B a totally different fighter. How can you prepare for that?.
+lancashire bomber Thanks for your input mate . Yeah I agree with Benn would win it .it would be brutal not sure how long it would have gone on for few rounds? I do respect froch for what he archived and is a al time great but not on Benn and Calzaghe`s level for me .
hahahahaha, Benn didn't even beat Chris Eubank ... let alone Calzaghe, who made Eubank look a joke. You obviously know nothing about boxing. Stick to Football mate
Carl has an excellent chin & good punch but for me Calzaghe would be too busy & fast, he has variety of shots unlike carl who is awkward but only fights one way, Calzaghe is the best super middle/ light heavy weight I've seen, his unbeaten record speaks for it's self
"Calzaghe is the best super middle/ light heavy weight I've seen"Anyone who knows anything about boxing, knows a prime RJJ beats anyone on the planet p4p.
He didnt say that he said he wasnt a big enough name at that point in his career he was looking for big pay days against the bigger names ie Hopkins and Jones jr.
These two should have fought in 2006. Froch was already a top world title contender in that year and Calzaghe was one of the best pound for pound in the world in that year.
joe is the greatest british fighter of all time , as big a froch fan as i am i still believe joe would have danced around him and peppered him with shots
These guys are both British legends and I would argue both all-time greats no true fan can support one without respecting the other that they never fought is one of those frustrating 'what-ifs' we will never know and can only speculate on
Nathan Hazlett Froch is not a legend he does not have a legacy. He has fought two world class boxers in Ward and Kessler and lost to both. When you consider the beating Kessler took off Calzaghe and still had enough to put Froch away it just highlights the difference in class between Froch and Joe. Joe lost once in his career as a boxer in an amatuer bout and retired undefeated as a professional two fights off Marciano's record. Froch doesn't have the right to clean his shoe's.
Calzaghe had a granite chin I never saw him hurt in any fight at any time he didn't have same power but his overall skill set of fast hands, high work rate and incredible footwork puts Calzaghe in the top ten best British fighters of all time Froch just misses the rank but he is still a very good fighter. Ward v Calzaghe would be a fight for the ages
Welsh Boxing fan id have Jimmy Wilde and Ken Buchanan top two thought you would have had Wilde up there too mate...Lewis top 10 definatly mate Calzaghe big issue was having the broken hands like youd said and Frank Warren ruining his career fight path with shite opposition
Ward offered him a fight. But calzaghe was 40 and didn't want to know. Very eager to jump in with 44 year olds himself though. He shat it the shithouse. Go and check out the articles of WARD offering out Joe...quack @@soltaylor685
Froch was a great champion/fighter one of my favourites he’s become a bit of an arse lately funnily enough he’s not insulting calzaghe standing in front of him
BAYLORIC WORLDWIDE TELEVISION If I remember rightly, Abrahams was actually favourite right up until Froch beat him. Froch came 2nd tho, sorry to deviate
Better men the Carl put it right on joe and walked away empty handed. Carl’s chin saved him in a lot of fights Joe on the other hand had it all speed , chin , power , fitness and fantastic boxing abilities that’s why he beat them all and never lost
Calzaghe fought 47 PRO fights against the best that were around he could adapt to any opponent as he proved for years if he was american he would be as high profile as floyd duck pacman mayweather true class is joe makes me proud to be welsh
GunsR4Cowards Cowardzaghe hidding in wales for 10 years fighting bums and Tomato cans defnding his shitty WBO title .. later in his career he traveled to USA to fight couple of washed up over the hill boxers(Jones and hopkins) .. Average Joe Cowardzaghe is a disgrace
GunsR4Cowards just stating the facts .. Cowardzaghe fought against over the hill 37 year old Jones(who got knocked out Cold in the first round against Danny Green in Australia 3 months after he lost on points to cowardzaghe) and 43 year old hopkins .. both past their prime .. Cowardzaghe is a conman and a first class coward
GunsR4Cowards I've achieved more than you .. Roy Jones had already been ko'd by Tarver and GG Johnson before he fought calzaghe and after got brutally ko'd by Green(in the 1st round) and Lebedev.. i watched all the fights i know what i'm talking about .. Calzaghe fought kessler at home in wales never travelled to Denmark and he didnt annihilate kessler it was a close fight 116-112 according to two judges i think ..also may i add calzaghe didnt have any punching power and slapped like a girl ... Stop your fanatic support for the cocaine using conman cowardzaghe and face the truth
I know at this point Joe had been retired a while, but he's not overweight, he's just a lot more naturally bigger than Froch. Froch used to walk around about half a stone over the weight at most I believe, Calzaghe naturally walked around at about 14st I think I heard. Size, speed, movement, angles, boxing brain, variety, all with Joe in my opinion. If Froch caught him, he'd know about it, but I don't think Froch would catch him clean enough often enough to put Calzaghe away
If a westerns opinion matters to you which I probably doesn’t, I can tell you Brit’s one thing, Froch was always respected because of his chin yes, but Joe Calzaghe was no ordinary opponent for anybody in any country and everyone that knew boxing in the west knew Calzaghe was a freak. Certainly Joe was one of the greatest boxers of all time. Very good all around fighter. He was just a freak of nature in the ring that could make quick and talented boxers look lesser than what they were.
remi moses No class at all, his arse went. He says different when Joe isn't around whereas Joe has always said he's too quick for him and would beat him whether Froch was around or not.
Love Love Love Froch and his True Brit all action style......but.....Super Joe would have fuckin peppered him from start to finish with his excellent pure boxing 🥊🥊🥊🥊 The British Isles should forever be proud of these two fuckin WARRIORS!!🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻✊✊✊👍👍👍👍👍👍
Just look how relaxed Joe is, while Carl looks adrenaline filled to simply be near him. As tough as Froch was Joe would have to have had a seriously off day for Froch to even get near him on points
Joe is a elite fighter the real deal..And Froch is a warrior he ain’t gonna say he can lose fighters don’t believe that crap til they’ve been beaten and some refuse to believe it anyway
Froch recently said he wanted a “straightener” with Calzaghe. (Basically a fight) However, he waited until Joe had been retired for five years and he had been retired for one to say it. Froch wants to believe he could beat Calzaghe and wants other people to believe it. Anyone who ever saw them fight knows that Froch wouldn’t last six rounds against Joe. He never had the power, speed or ability to do it.
Ward would of beaten Calzaghe. Im sure of it. Calzaghe was quick but Ward is quicker and I think he has more dimensions to his game than Joe had aswell.
Joe would have won by a unanimous points decision. He was a brilliant fighter who would have won alot more fights by knockout or stoppage if not for his brittle hands.
Calzaghe would beat Froch if he (Calzaghe) had flu and was bereaving the loss of family member and was woken up in the middle of the night from a deep sleep, on Froch's best day.
some boxers are never destined to meet, Joe was at the end of his career when Carl was becoming box office. I agree with the opinion that Joe would've won on points at Super-Mid level, if both fought at their peak. All hypothetical, really..
To be fair Joe fought a lot of fighters and no one got too his chin. He was extremely fast and hard working and would win on points. Froch wasnt as gifted a boxer but had good chin and heart a boxer always beats a brawler. Anyone agree?????
Just like froch admitted, Joe on points. don't think carl would've stopped Joe cos he had a great chin. not sure why people are slagging froch though. The guy is a top world class British legend. He fought and beat 7 or 8 world champions and even though Joe was unbeaten, I reckon carl had a slightly better resume. Both greats and would've been a fantastic fight.
Calzaghe talks a good game - all day long. The fight never happened - because one bloke shit his pants and was obsessed with retiring undefeated. Fast hands, brittle hands. When Froch took on a young pretender, he got hurt physically - but he had the balls to do it and came out the other side.
Two complete total modern legends shame they never fought each other! Really feels like a gene tunney v jack dempsey style match up ,the great cobra versus the slick welsh dragon slayer would have been a total one off classic ! only god knows what the outcome would have been!
Froch spends half his life slagging Calzaghe off. Telling the World how he'd batter him, how HE was the man. Then, suddenly... he's in a ring with him ...and it was like "Yeh, but no but, yeh but".. Had they fought: The first three of four rounds would have been a carbon copy of the Calzaghe Kessler fight. Froch throwing bombs, landing bombs, but Calzaghe refusing to take a step backwards. THAT was the mark of a great fighter right there. He KNEW he needed to box, needed to get behind his jab, knew he needed to open up that gap.. But inside Calzaghes head... He also knew he COULDNT let Kessler think, even for a second, that he couldnt take his power. Kessler, after 6 rounds was like "Ive hit him with everything and STILL the bastard is throwing combinations".. He wore Kessler down, body and spirit. Froch would have gone the same way except..... He would have eaten Calzaghe's jab, all night long. It would have been a clearer victory for JC
Froch basically says "I couldnt have beaten him" - Because Calzaghe's chin was every bit as tough as Froch's in fact... Calzaghe was NEVER in serious trouble from a punch. Groves came very close to stopping Froch
I have no doubt that Calzaghe would have beaten Froch on points but I rate Froch the greater fighter. Calzaghe spent too many years not wanting to fight outside the UK and spent too much time inactive through injuries some of which were questionable. When he did finally fight outside the UK he met a way over the hill unrecognisable from his heyday Roy Jones and to be fair had an underrated win over an ageing Hopkins. Froch fought anyone and everyone and would travel to do it. He seemed less concerned about losing his winning record than Calzaghe and was involved in some unbelievable fights. All in all I think Froch has the better CV.
Carl was a really good fighter. Period. Joe was a really great fighter. Honest believe on any given day either of the fighters could have won. Of course Joe would always be the favorite but one never knows.
Froch is like "Finally, daddy's spending time with me!"
lol he's so excited...such a weird man
lol he's so excited...such a weird man
Widely recognised by who? Certainly not other boxers or the press how can anyone who was never the official number 1 in his division and who lost to every world class boxer he fought don't forget Kessler beat after he was well beaten by Joe be considered the best boxer the UK as produced and please remind me which of the two are inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame.
Agreed Joe is the longest reigning British champ, how can you say Froch is most recognized? The same froch who got lucky in his first fight against a Groves which he shouldnt never have won.
Froch never avoided anyone but Calzaghe was avoided like the plague. Ottke turned down £1M because he knew he would get owned, Hopkins should have fought Calzaghe in 2002 but priced himself out. Joe just couldn't get the opportunities when he was younger, mostly because of Ottke hiding in Germany with his two belts, once he was gone the big fights happened. Always respect Lacy for giving him the shot at the unification, awful career move by Lacy though.
I like Froch- tough as nails and all that but Joe is in a different league. The record speaks for itself.
fieldfullofthistles how the record speak for itself when Carl Froch fought the better competition and gave three undefeated fighters they first lost
King Shlong its funny how you bring up Bute lost 4 after Froch beat him but you all praise Joe Calzaghe bullshit win over Roy Jones. Second explain what did Joe Calzaghe accomplish in the Super Middleweight division that your rank him over Andre Ward and Carl Froch who both fought top notch fighters. Sven Ottke also had 21 defense and im not a 100% sure buti think the after the 14 defense he held two belts. While the WBO belt wasn't recognize by the other organizations for the first 4 year he held the title
King Shlong yes i asked that question. One the difference between Froch and Ward they fought and beat everyone one in the Division. When Joe Calzaghe was champion you had Sven Ottke who at the time held two legitimate belts and defended them 21 times just as Joe Calzaghe did with the WBO belt which was trash. When Andre Ward went to Light Heavyweight and fought and stop Kovale in their second fight unlike Joe Calzaghe who chose Roy Jones thay lost 3 in a row two by back to back knockout. But keep selling that bullshit. Im from the states where fighters take on all comers something Carl Froch did with pride and greatness
King Shlong ask you a simple question to be the best you have to fight the best
King Shlong once again with pure bullshit. Once he won against Mikkel Kessler and won the WBC and WBA belt he gave them up to fight Hopkins and shell shock Roy Jones. In my early post Carl Froch and Sven Ottke one two belts and defended it multiple times unlike Joe Calzaghe
We live in a country which loves great losing efforts calzaghe was a winner that's why people dislike him
Joe Calzaghe didn't fight everybody Carl Froch that is the difference
William Drayton froch is the best light heavyweight since calzaghe
Fluffy Snow doggo explain that to me when Andre Ward and Carl Froch fought better competition and beat everyone in the division. While Carl Froch held two belts defended it multiple times while Joe Calzaghe held the WBO belt which champion wasn't ranked by the other for the first 4 years he had it and you also had Sven Ottke who held two belts and also defended his belts 21 times
Stop the bullshit. You in a country that respect fighters. Yes look at Carl Froch Resume Jean Pascal, Lucine Bute, Mikkel Kessler, Glen Johnson, Arthur Abraham, Andre Direll win disputed and George Grove
William Drayton your saying Abraham and Pascal top fighters they were shit
Joe Calzaghe all day. No contest, anyone that says anything different doesn’t actually know boxing
No contest? You are exaggerating just a tad there bud, as do all Calzaghe fanatics. It would've been a brilliant contest, unbelievable match up.
@@martytdd1606 No it wouldn't have. Froch had zero defence. He would have been punched to death by Calzaghe, his work rate and punch output would have done him.
Would have been a hell of a fight & calzaghe wins on points!
Absoutely. Calzaghe had better technical skills then that ugly mug froch who was slow and hittable.
Calzaghe could of made it look easy, then again carl froch could catch and finish him in the 12th and it wouldn't have shocked me, both were tremendous fighters!
Calzaghe was pure talent ... He is , and will be looked back on as one of Britain's greatest ever fighters
I don't no who even comes close from u.k.
@@intothewild5045 Well Lewis would have to be over Joe. It could be debated that prime for prime he would've beaten every single all-time great heavyweight throughout history (yes, even Ali from the 60s) whereas Joe would've most likely lost to a prime Andre Ward and definitely would've gotten knocked out by a prime Roy. He's not even the best in the history of his own weight division so how could he be the greatest British fighter ever?
@@brandonlamb9067 What a load of absolute bollocks.
What would Andre Ward have brought to the table that would "most likely" have seen Joe Calzaghe off??
You think he'd have knocked Calzaghe out? outworked him? what? How did Ward beat Calzaghe?
As for Roy Jones? One of the best P4P boxers of all time. But not at SuperMiddleweight. Tell me his greatest
accomplishments at 168? He didnt even unify the titles. He only had around 6 fights at the weight and apart from
a great win against a fat James Toney (who never fought at 168 again) he only fought old men and bums
Both Ward and Calzaghe have better records at SuperMiddleweight. But you wouldnt know that would you ya numpty
@@tyronewilliams1511 What was so special about Calzaghe?
@@H.K.5 he had heart he was losing against Kessler and even Kessler's words he learnt on the fly to switch it up and changed his style lot of boxers said he hits hard when everyone said he slaps including eubank Joe got lot of hate to this day but he never gave up even when he had broken bones in his hand he basically had to fight with broken hand he went thru the trenches trained like a monster and was super fit never ran out of steam and yes junior was not his prime but neither was Joe both at the end of there boxing game who would have won froch or Joe who knows
Calzaghe would have schooled Froch, it would have been just like the Ward fight if not worse.
DB Cooper don't underestimate froch he is the toughest in that division literally he is stronger than calzaghe by far and joe knows it but he was humble here even though he is a fighter himself
im sick of fools like you who know nothing about nothing ward is technically better not stronger u idiot go do some research then come back and talk to me
1979mirza I believe Joe saw Froch as too much of a risk so he ducked him.
DB Cooper Why didn't he fight him then ? I am not a fan of either , but Joe should keep quiet about Carl. You don't hear Steve Collins talking about Joe. Steve could not get up for Joe same as Joe could not get up for Carl. If Carl can't get up for James Degale , Joe should shut up coz Joe would not fight Carl
jack chan Why would Joe fight him 49 and 0 he had nothing to prove. Froch is not even the number one in his division. Froch kept calling Joe out after he retired because Joe at his best would have destroyed the wooden Froch.
As for Collins and Joe watch the Sky programme where Eubank accused Collins of running scared, Eubank faced both of them and in his opinion, which I respect because he fought both of them and was not an armchair warrior like you, he said Joe would have done him. Joe one the all time undefeated great World Champions Froch a journey man with a half decent record but an over inflated opinion of his ability.
Power, slight advantage to Carl....
...Fight IQ, Hand Speed, Work Rate, Footwork all goes to Joe!
And he still ducked him lmao
One word.......UNBEATEN!
5 words. 10 years with WBO belt
Won every world title belt at super middle, beating 2 unbeaten champions.
and calzaghe also has a higher ko percentage than froch, underrated puncher.
Picked his opponents cleverly
Calzaghe lost to Bernard Hopkins. And Calzaghe never faced anyone like Andre Ward.
Calzaghe is the best! Joe doesn't take his eyes off froch much in the interview, froch looks nervous knowing he's already beat by the master!
Spot on,froch showed no class calling out Joe when hes close to 50,if froch has something to prove come back and get in the mix with a generation younger than him.
Joe Calzaghe all day. Too fast and too awkward for Carl. No comparison. But not to discredit Carl, who has consistently shown that hard-work and tenacity can take you far.
Calzaghe all day, best to come out of Britain
Karl would win in a street fight but in a ring Jo would of won cause as he said he is awkward and a better boxer
@@tristanwebb7060 aye but Calzaghe would beat him at tiddly winks so
One of fury is the king
@@tristanwebb7060 get a grip boxing is a sport. If he would win in ring he would win a street fight. Idiot.
It's true what Joe says they were just at different 'times' in their careers!
John Doe It doesn't matter about time if they had ever met Joe would have beaten him. Froch was lucky to finish second in the Super 6 Taylor boxed his head off and was unlucky to lose the fight. A low standard competition and he should have finished third and he is claiming Calzaghe's crown. A total loser and anyone who backs him knows nothing about boxing.
The mongo is you and Froch because by doing what Froch did he tried to bring it into the present day.If Froch had done that in the day Joe would have battered the shit into that brain dead northerner
bampie1 It brought it into the present day? It's called fantasy match ups. There's nothing wrong with surmising. Calzaghe would of won a decision in a competitive match up.
The Midlands is north from where I live therefore he is a northerner
+bampie1 Interesting logic there...
Respect to both. Carl is as hard as nails but joe is something else. To fast to aggressive, southpaw a true great.
Two great fighters, but Joe was exceptional. I remember Kessler saying it was like fighting two people because if Joe's A game was'nt working he would come out next round with plan B a totally different fighter. How can you prepare for that?.
Carl Froch was fantastic but Joe was the very very best Boxer ever came out of the UK he had the looks ,he had phenomenal Handspeed
Very Very very straight forward fight for Calzaghe would of won easy.
Froch would lose. Calzaghe is too Welsh for him
Daniel Manning He's also sardinian.
Born in London...
I think calzaghe would beat froch . But if I could see any fight it would froch v nigel benn that would have been some fight .
+Heath Stansfield aye, but benn wins that one, i reckon.
+lancashire bomber Thanks for your input mate . Yeah I agree with Benn would win it .it would be brutal not sure how long it would have gone on for few rounds? I do respect froch for what he archived and is a al time great but not on Benn and Calzaghe`s level for me .
hahahahaha, Benn didn't even beat Chris Eubank ... let alone Calzaghe, who made Eubank look a joke. You obviously know nothing about boxing. Stick to Football mate
you think lol more like you know he would destroyed him.
There’s mismatches and then there’s that. That’s like throwing a poor mouse at a lion.
2 different era's 2 different champions but both men are Gentlemen and pioneers of our gr8 sport
Gentlemen? Froch don't stop abusing him this is the only time i have ever seen him say anything half decent about Joe.
Carl has an excellent chin & good punch but for me Calzaghe would be too busy & fast, he has variety of shots unlike carl who is awkward but only fights one way, Calzaghe is the best super middle/ light heavy weight I've seen, his unbeaten record speaks for it's self
"Calzaghe is the best super middle/ light heavy weight I've seen"Anyone who knows anything about boxing, knows a prime RJJ beats anyone on the planet p4p.
mcneumz I think Ward would of beaten Calzaghe aswell to be fair.
mcneumz agreed
zak iqbal 💩
Froch always struggled against technical fighters. Taylor, Direll and Ward all gave him problems
Love that Calzaghe the legend is telling Froch to his face.....’you weren’t good enough for me to fight you!!!!!’ 😂😂😂😂😂
He didnt say that he said he wasnt a big enough name at that point in his career he was looking for big pay days against the bigger names ie Hopkins and Jones jr.
Galzaghe is a legend
Froch always has that same excited look whenever anybody is asked to say nice things about him. He just can't hide it.
I Miss Joe ..boxing isn't the same an absolute legend & I'm not Welsh
Steve Anderson me too
Joe all day..........fast hands.......too quick....too fit. Frock outclassed by Ward & narrowly beaten by Kessler. Great, tough fight though.
These two should have fought in 2006. Froch was already a top world title contender in that year and Calzaghe was one of the best pound for pound in the world in that year.
Hamza Khaliq Joe ran from everyone
+twisty mee but beat hopkins n Roy Jones hmm.. I'm a Jr fan too.. so I don't think so..
joe is the greatest british fighter of all time , as big a froch fan as i am i still believe joe would have danced around him and peppered him with shots
These guys are both British legends and I would argue both all-time greats
no true fan can support one without respecting the other
that they never fought is one of those frustrating 'what-ifs' we will never know and can only speculate on
Nathan Hazlett Froch is not a legend he does not have a legacy. He has fought two world class boxers in Ward and Kessler and lost to both. When you consider the beating Kessler took off Calzaghe and still had enough to put Froch away it just highlights the difference in class between Froch and Joe. Joe lost once in his career as a boxer in an amatuer bout and retired undefeated as a professional two fights off Marciano's record. Froch doesn't have the right to clean his shoe's.
Nathan Hazlett Calzaghe undefeated Pro and Froch a good puncher only one legend and it is not Froch.
+bampie1 joe calzaghe amateur record 110-10 and he was 3 fights off rockies record not 2 mate.
Plus the big one he was unbeaten hello Froch fans explain that one away
I'm a calzaghe fan you edda i hate froch
The Boxer W I N S: And - that's NOT you, Mr E G O: (Froch!!!!)
Joe would have outworked carl,joe doesn’t get the respect he deserved as a great,Carl was good but joe is a great
Robert Jones off who? Mans a hall of famer, course he gets the respect he deserves.
Calzaghe had a granite chin I never saw him hurt in any fight at any time he didn't have same power but his overall skill set of fast hands, high work rate and incredible footwork puts Calzaghe in the top ten best British fighters of all time Froch just misses the rank but he is still a very good fighter. Ward v Calzaghe would be a fight for the ages
Welsh Boxing fan id have Jimmy Wilde and Ken Buchanan top two thought you would have had Wilde up there too mate...Lewis top 10 definatly mate Calzaghe big issue was having the broken hands like youd said and Frank Warren ruining his career fight path with shite opposition
Ward probably ducked Joe Calzaghe
Ward offered him a fight. But calzaghe was 40 and didn't want to know. Very eager to jump in with 44 year olds himself though. He shat it the shithouse. Go and check out the articles of WARD offering out Joe...quack @@soltaylor685
Froch was a great champion/fighter one of my favourites he’s become a bit of an arse lately funnily enough he’s not insulting calzaghe standing in front of him
Joe wouldn't even let Carl breath ! Joe had a tough chin as well. Carl would have no chance ..
when did froch win the super 6? I'm sure Ward beat him..
BAYLORIC WORLDWIDE TELEVISION If I remember rightly, Abrahams was actually favourite right up until Froch beat him. Froch came 2nd tho, sorry to deviate
He didnt!
Joe for me all the way the most underrated boxer ever a true legend and unbeaten
Froch is dying to kiss joe you can see the love in his eyes bless him
Joe looks so relaxed. Carl looks on edge.
Better men the Carl put it right on joe and walked away empty handed. Carl’s chin saved him in a lot of fights
Joe on the other hand had it all speed , chin , power , fitness and fantastic boxing abilities that’s why he beat them all and never lost
Calzaghe fought 47 PRO fights against the best that were around he could adapt to any opponent as he proved for years if he was american he would be as high profile as floyd duck pacman mayweather true class is joe makes me proud to be welsh
GunsR4Cowards Cowardzaghe hidding in wales for 10 years fighting bums and Tomato cans defnding his shitty WBO title .. later in his career he traveled to USA to fight couple of washed up over the hill boxers(Jones and hopkins) .. Average Joe Cowardzaghe is a disgrace
GunsR4Cowards just stating the facts .. Cowardzaghe fought against over the hill 37 year old Jones(who got knocked out Cold in the first round against Danny Green in Australia 3 months after he lost on points to cowardzaghe) and 43 year old hopkins .. both past their prime .. Cowardzaghe is a conman and a first class coward
GunsR4Cowards I've achieved more than you .. Roy Jones had already been ko'd by Tarver and GG Johnson before he fought calzaghe and after got brutally ko'd by Green(in the 1st round) and Lebedev.. i watched all the fights i know what i'm talking about .. Calzaghe fought kessler at home in wales never travelled to Denmark and he didnt annihilate kessler it was a close fight 116-112 according to two judges i think ..also may i add calzaghe didnt have any punching power and slapped like a girl ... Stop your fanatic support for the cocaine using conman cowardzaghe and face the truth
GunsR4Cowards backed up what i said with facts ... Calzaghe was a slapper even a fanatic supporter like you cant deny it LOOOL
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Great to see the respect between the two champions. Calzaghe achieved more but who knows who would come out on top in a dust up? That's boxing for you
Calzaghe would have won. Too fast and slick for froch. Froch struggled against technical fighters
Calzaghe was a brilliant fighter, Froch was a good fighter, and there is the difference. I think Calzaghe either on points or an early stoppage.
I know at this point Joe had been retired a while, but he's not overweight, he's just a lot more naturally bigger than Froch. Froch used to walk around about half a stone over the weight at most I believe, Calzaghe naturally walked around at about 14st I think I heard. Size, speed, movement, angles, boxing brain, variety, all with Joe in my opinion. If Froch caught him, he'd know about it, but I don't think Froch would catch him clean enough often enough to put Calzaghe away
Trouble with frochs vision is calzaghe never been stopped.
If a westerns opinion matters to you which I probably doesn’t, I can tell you Brit’s one thing, Froch was always respected because of his chin yes, but Joe Calzaghe was no ordinary opponent for anybody in any country and everyone that knew boxing in the west knew Calzaghe was a freak. Certainly Joe was one of the greatest boxers of all time. Very good all around fighter. He was just a freak of nature in the ring that could make quick and talented boxers look lesser than what they were.
Bit of class shown here from Froch
remi moses No class at all, his arse went. He says different when Joe isn't around whereas Joe has always said he's too quick for him and would beat him whether Froch was around or not.
I like and respect both these guys massively. I'd say joe was a more rounded fighter and more naturally gifted at boxing. Raw talent.
Froch defo would have been obliterated, Calzaghe just smiles and laughs at him.
Are you stupid no fucking arse fucking shit abrick way in fucking blue aresed fucking way he would have fucking won
@@darrenbaxter9398 well I guess we'll never fucking know.
Love Love Love Froch and his True Brit all action style......but.....Super Joe would have fuckin peppered him from start to finish with his excellent pure boxing 🥊🥊🥊🥊
The British Isles should forever be proud of these two fuckin WARRIORS!!🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻✊✊✊👍👍👍👍👍👍
Look at carls silly little grins and face when someone says summit good about him. Godbless that man
joe wouldve battered froch to a pulp.
Carl Froch as tough as old boots but I can't see any way he could beat Calzaghe,.
Just look how relaxed Joe is, while Carl looks adrenaline filled to simply be near him. As tough as Froch was Joe would have to have had a seriously off day for Froch to even get near him on points
The look on froch's face says I feel uncomfortable
credit where it's due froch was respecful and gave Joe his deserved credit
Two of the top 5 British boxers of all time.Loved watching them box 👌
+Colin Berry Lennox Lewis
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Frank Bruno
and Michael Watson fill those spaces! ;)
Audley Harrison is the #1 space Lee Ames..... that guy was a pure animal!
DNF Danninetyf
lol
Lee Ames Hahaha.... sorry i just couldn't help myself.
Joe is a elite fighter the real deal..And Froch is a warrior he ain’t gonna say he can lose fighters don’t believe that crap til they’ve been beaten and some refuse to believe it anyway
Froch recently said he wanted a “straightener” with Calzaghe. (Basically a fight)
However, he waited until Joe had been retired for five years and he had been retired for one to say it.
Froch wants to believe he could beat Calzaghe and wants other people to believe it.
Anyone who ever saw them fight knows that Froch wouldn’t last six rounds against Joe.
He never had the power, speed or ability to do it.
Calzaghe ducked froch like Steve claims ducked calzaghe. Almost identical circumstances
Wow. I forgot Carl Froch had THAT nose.
Joe can box and if he wanted he can be a brawler too plus one of the highest IQ in boxing.
God damn I miss Calzaghe and Hatton..Boxing is not the same :(
Calzaghe is the best British boxer of all time!....dont take my word for it ask Eubank,Benn etc
Lennox lewis is way better
@@brocksimmons345 Canadian
@@jasonblonde4886wrong lewis was British. He was born in Britain but moved to canada when he was a teen I think
Joe hands down and in actual fact he is the one who could have beaten Andre Ward. Wish he stuck around for couple more years.
Ward would of beaten Calzaghe. Im sure of it. Calzaghe was quick but Ward is quicker and I think he has more dimensions to his game than Joe had aswell.
+BoxingBadBoy77 no he wouldnt
@@BoxingBadBoy77 nah lazy ward Joe would win on punch output
Joe's the man.
Calzaghe all day
Joe would have won by a unanimous points decision. He was a brilliant fighter who would have won alot more fights by knockout or stoppage if not for his brittle hands.
Carl was rocked and nearly out on his feet by George groves someone who wouldn't have landed a glove on calzaghe
The only time Calzaghe would hand over a belt 😜
Carl's sweating a bit there. Knows Joe would have spanked him.
Spot on
Calzaghe would beat Froch if he (Calzaghe) had flu and was bereaving the loss of family member and was woken up in the middle of the night from a deep sleep, on Froch's best day.
Bring back ringside
80,000 reasons why King Calzaghe would have smoked you Froch!
Froch looks up calzaghe he's defo his idol....... Calzaghe wud of scholled him in the art of boxing 🙏
Fuck me Carl actually seems quite humble for once here
Joe was a master class speed and movement froch no chance
some boxers are never destined to meet, Joe was at the end of his career when Carl was becoming box office. I agree with the opinion that Joe would've won on points at Super-Mid level, if both fought at their peak. All hypothetical, really..
To be fair Joe fought a lot of fighters and no one got too his chin. He was extremely fast and hard working and would win on points. Froch wasnt as gifted a boxer but had good chin and heart a boxer always beats a brawler. Anyone agree?????
Gotta love froch for the realness. That is absolute that if you can't KO calzaghe abruptly than you will lose
Joe would smoke his boots
Lol... Froch's face when Calzaghe says 'I never ducked nobody'
Calzaghe could come back tomorrow and beat every super middleweight out there.
Joe did it all at different weights
Just like froch admitted, Joe on points. don't think carl would've stopped Joe cos he had a great chin. not sure why people are slagging froch though. The guy is a top world class British legend. He fought and beat 7 or 8 world champions and even though Joe was unbeaten, I reckon carl had a slightly better resume. Both greats and would've been a fantastic fight.
Calzaghe talks a good game - all day long. The fight never happened - because one bloke shit his pants and was obsessed with retiring undefeated. Fast hands, brittle hands. When Froch took on a young pretender, he got hurt physically - but he had the balls to do it and came out the other side.
Two complete total modern legends shame they never fought each other! Really feels like a gene tunney v jack dempsey style match up ,the great cobra versus the slick welsh dragon slayer would have been a total one off classic ! only god knows what the outcome would have been!
Froch spends half his life slagging Calzaghe off. Telling
the World how he'd batter him, how HE was the man.
Then, suddenly... he's in a ring with him
...and it was like "Yeh, but no but, yeh but"..
Had they fought:
The first three of four rounds would have been a carbon copy of the Calzaghe Kessler fight.
Froch throwing bombs, landing bombs, but Calzaghe refusing to take a step backwards.
THAT was the mark of a great fighter right there. He KNEW he needed to box, needed to get
behind his jab, knew he needed to open up that gap.. But inside Calzaghes head... He also knew
he COULDNT let Kessler think, even for a second, that he couldnt take his power.
Kessler, after 6 rounds was like "Ive hit him with everything and STILL the bastard is throwing
combinations".. He wore Kessler down, body and spirit.
Froch would have gone the same way except..... He would have eaten Calzaghe's jab, all night
long. It would have been a clearer victory for JC
legends - love that tension. men
Froch basically says "I couldnt have beaten him" - Because Calzaghe's chin was every bit as tough as Froch's
in fact... Calzaghe was NEVER in serious trouble from a punch. Groves came very close to stopping Froch
The classic Boxer v Puncher. I agree with Froch, his only realistic chance is a stoppage. Always a punchers chance.
colin958.Remember Froch vs Mitchell? Would have been similar scenario but same ending. Joe Knocking Carl out.
Calzaghe all day long!
The tension in the air is palpable
that was classy all round...
its a shame the fight never happened, but it worked out alright for both guys in the end ;)
They really hate each other. You can smell it off them!
Carl one of the greatest spot on with the tactics Froch would need a knockout.
no way on earth would froche have beaten calzaghe, not a chance!
He didn't win the super six but froch gained momentum when Joe was after paydays
he lied,,
Froch would of thought there was 3 opponent's in there with him.
I have no doubt that Calzaghe would have beaten Froch on points but I rate Froch the greater fighter.
Calzaghe spent too many years not wanting to fight outside the UK and spent too much time inactive through injuries some of which were questionable. When he did finally fight outside the UK he met a way over the hill unrecognisable from his heyday Roy Jones and to be fair had an underrated win over an ageing Hopkins.
Froch fought anyone and everyone and would travel to do it. He seemed less concerned about losing his winning record than Calzaghe and was involved in some unbelievable fights.
All in all I think Froch has the better CV.
Calzaghe would have won 👊👊
Carl was a really good fighter. Period. Joe was a really great fighter. Honest believe on any given day either of the fighters could have won. Of course Joe would always be the favorite but one never knows.
Joe would have made Carl look silly