I love that the first thing she mentions is free speech and freedom of association. Her childhood in Nigeria gives her real insight and heartfelt convictions. These essential freedoms aren’t especially popular subjects, sadly: the only reason she brings them up is that she means it. Additionally, she's great at the dispatch box. I've never voted Tory in my life but I think I'd vote for Kemi PM.
@@Gloria_Smess she was smacked down for not discussing policy in Parliament first if that doesnt look like a blocking to you and dont know what is,she had to apologise.
OK so the Conservatives can now promise Reform policies which they did nothing to put into practice when they had a chance. Keep voting Reform. The Conservatives can join Reform.
@@JohnnyRingo-c5v reform is a grift masquerading as a legitimate part of the democratic process. No you can't change my mind. Just another toff like Farage who thinks his policyless charisma is enough.
Talk is cheap. The Tories are now a left-wing party. William Hague says he wants the Tories to copy the Greens and the Lib Dems. That says it all. And don't forget the Tories have shown themselves to be repeated and habitual liars over many decades.
I would trust Kemi Badenoche to turn things around. She actually has a plan, knows where she wants to go, how to get there, and what to expect on the way.
What plan? There's nothing there! She totally ignorant, and an imigrant from Nigeria and she thinks she can talk down to to group of Tory preschoolers!
@@dianamincher6479 Clearly you haven't been listening to her. I guess you were one of the leftists who stopped watching her talk after the first minute.
But she can’t do any of the things she claims to. Did you nit learn anything from the last 14 years. Regardless of the leader, the Tories are a centre left party
being to the right of the Conservative Party isn't saying much! If you vote Conservative expecting right-wing policies actually being enacted you deserve all you get.
@@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb I wager you are wrong. Kimi has more balls and personality/character than anyone in the conservatives for the last 40 years. I believe she has the leadership skills to make a difference and take the conservatives in a new direction.
@jackarcher9652 Sorry you feel that way, and I recognise you have good reason. Maybe I am just nostalgic about a time long ago when I thought the conservatives were a good party for the country. I despair at the weak lot on both the right and left who now clammer for control and power and all of whom just appear to take the country down the slippery slop to the bottom.
I’ve recently become a member of Reform because I felt that the Tory government had, da facto, become a bunch of Social Democrats. However, I have always liked Kemi because she espouses my own thoughts and views on what it is to be a Conservative. Unfortunately, for her, the most successful political movement in the democratic world is sadly in free fall. I get no pleasure in saying this but even she will not be able to stop its decline into obscurity and oblivion. I’d love to be able to sit down with Ms Badenoch and be given the chance to persuade her to join Reform.
It’s not even about decline. She knows full well she cannot do any of the things she wants to. The party won’t let her. We’ve been here for 14 years. Why vote for a fake reform party? Just vote for the real deal.
Her position on Reform is exactly as you would expect. Nigel has stated before that he wants to destroy the Conservative Party. As an aspirational leader of that party, and a strong one at that, she would look weak and muddled to say and believe anything different. She sees her job as to make the Conservatives what those who turned to to Reform want to vote for in future, by offering a clear, firm , concise vision of what being British means and what is expected of a citizen of this country, based on her very obvious common sense approach. Which is really what Nigel is offering .... That doesn't rule out them working together in future but on her terms. At present she has a job to do and being clear in her principals is the most important thing right now.
The thing is Kemi we don't trust you or your party anymore , you may be sincere but your party is rotten to the core . The conservatives days are over for me.
@@jiminverness Thing is they will all tell you what you want to hear when it's time to get into power , Their track record on what they say vs what they do is shocking , last roll of the dice 🎲 for me would be Reform , if they don't cut the mustard then I'm done with it forever
Potentially a game changer. Forensic, clear thinking, effective communicator and able to cut through the crap. Unlike Robert, she took control of the interview. Balls of steel. Points of concern: needs more grace and to rise above petty point scoring in parliament and in public. Too much of a know quantity and not a break from the past - think Thatcher, Blair and Cameron.
I hold my hands up! I first became aware of her name in a previous leadership context where she did very well. The cynic in me thought at the time that the Tories were strategically pushng her as a token minority to boost the image of the Party, with no real intention (or desire) of her becoming leader. But having listened to her pitches and inverviews, I am really impressed by her and I can see why many Tory politicians are too. She seems to be the real deal! My only worry - She says all the right things but can she deliver? That having been said - Surely she cannot do any worse than Liz or Rishi!
2:00 _"We had this in 2019, when we stood on a single issue "Get Brexit Done""_ The problem was that the Tories forgot or ignored WHY Brexit became a thing in the first place. The whole point of Brexit wasn't about leaving the EU. It was about limiting immigration to controllable levels so as not to outstrip infrastructure to the serious detriment of Brits, and to keep out/banish those hostile to the UK and bringing in cultures hostile to the UK. Most Tories STILL don't get it.
That's what it was to you and many others. To some of my other Brexit-supporting friends it was about creating a free-wheeling, deregulated libertarian city state-on-Thames. That vision of Brexit is totally irreconcilable with yours, always was.
That is the best answer to the question of assisted dying I have heard. We need to tread with extreme caution in that matter and learn from some of the controversies that have surrounded various aspects of palliative care in the UK and some of the worrying issues with MAID in Canada
Who cares if she thinks she is working class or not. I don’t buy this class thing. It’s a distraction. Q is can she (or any of the others) set appropriate priorities, deliver them and is competent? That’s the Q.
It doesn't matter anymore. Even if the conservatives promised to stop migration and stop carbon net zero policies, would you vote for a party who made these things worse when in power or a party which is genuinely against these things? Conservatives aren't getting Reform voters back, they've blown it.
@@columbus7950 the one nations have ran the Conservative Party none stop and look where it’s got them. The party is heading to the right and it’s about time. One nations to me always tried to have it both ways while not satisfying anybody
She understands the systemic issues at play plus how to lead the Britain back into being Great again. Lots of insightful strategy based on clarifying UK values and what is necessary to be part of GB. She understands the issues at play with immigration plus what needs to be fixed to deport/reject. Her thoughtful comments on assisted dying are both sensible and nuanced. I hope the Conservative Party realise the treasure she is. To rebuild the GB is not a quick fix. It can be done with the right competent visionary leader and she seems to fit the bill. Shame she didn’t reference GB being a predominantly Christian country where the state is above religious law- and be prepared to stand up and exclude those who don’t comply- whether Hasidic Hews or Muslim.
She's got fire in the belly and that's usually handy while in opposition. But she has to do a good showing at the post office horizon inquiry where she's scheduled to appear. If she doesn't her enemies who want the leadership themselves will kneecap her bid without pity
It's Kemi's hostility to Reform that puts me off supporting her. I can't imagine voting Conservative again if they are at war with Reform (instead of allied with it and having an electoral pact.) Until the Conservative demonstrate a really strong (Suella Braverman type) determination to end constant mass immigration, I can't go back. After they lost the election that actually attacked Suella Braverman. If things don't change radically in the Conservative Party then I see not point in voting for them, and I will vote Reform again next time. It's about MORE than party labels.
Farage/Braverman etc are too much of a blunt instrument to get anything done. It would be like putting James Whale (whom I like) into power. If they got into power, they'd bang their heads very very hard against a lot of very thick walls, and then it'd all be over before they achieve anything. Whatever Farage does best, he's doing it now from the back benches. Even his biggest achievement, Brexit, was only directionally influenced by Farage. In fact, ostentatious determination is often suspect. You need to be into the how. That's what makes Kemi an attractive option. She looks like someone who would quickly and quietly get done what the shock jocks are always prating about. The Bravermans of the world is not actually how things get done. Farage might be good at getting us out of things, at abolishing things, but he doesn't build anything. Reform could get into No 10, rub their hands with glee, and not have the slightest idea how to carefully remove the chewing gum of Blairism from the hair of Britain. If you want a clearer idea of what i mean : the Farages the world would abolish the license fee, and that would be their Achilles heel. There'd be a lot of pushback. BBC would become the British CNN. They'd play into their image as philistines or "right wing wreckers". it wouldn't feel great living under them. Kemi looks like the person who would quickly and quietly put some simple guardrails in place to artfully restore the BBC to something worth having. That's actually MORE radically right wing, but also subtler.
She can talk the talk for sure but for me the trust is gone. I shall vote Reform from now as l feel the country has been let down by the usual suspects.
Nah! She did say she went from middle class to working class just by going to work in McDonald's and that's utter nonsense. It's like saying Wayne Rooney became blue blooded when he started earning big bucks .
Oh did she heck, unless you're perversely determined to take her literally in the dumbest way. She had a working class occupation for a while, lived their world for a bit -- the point she was making, very very passingly, was that she is pretty well rounded, which I think is fair, and it's baffling people miss the obvious point. I'm the same, middle class but proud to mention I've shovelled a bit of shit from time to time and have a thorough acquaintance with the working class, working class friends etc. Perfectly simple and valid point, not really a subject for comedy.
@jackarcher9652 I know, I know, but it's obvious she was using a shallow definition of the term, meaning broke and minimum wage, while comingling with the working class in the fuller sense. Sheesh. No need to waste an entire news cycle over it, quite disingenously.
I am surprised that no leader is talking about the rapidly increasing population in the country and the world. If we control this problem all the problems - food, climate, housing and pollution etc will settle very quickly.
Kemi is really great, but it's not enough im afraid. The only way I could consider voting for conservatives again would be if Kemi was leader and she accepted the Reform MPs into the party with Farage as deputy leader. We've had years and years of conservatives talking from the right and governing from the left. Kemi does talk from the right, which is good but she's part of a machine that is riddled with left wing people.
How interesting - a politician who champions Elon Musk and celebrates free speech on X, while studiously avoiding critical media that might ask her uncomfortable questions
Kemi probably would have been too much for the left leaning part of the electorate in 2024, but by 2029, we will be so desperate to be saved from Labour, she will be perfect.
A black conservative woman with an engineering background that knows what she's talking about. She is a unicorn. Tories would be crazy not to have her as a leader.
Kemi has good instincts on ‘culture war’ bollocks; seems reasonable on Foreign Policy and Net Zero alarmism; and is OK on NHS concerns - but ultimately puts Party before Country, like every Tory leader since Thatcher. I’m not convinced she actually “gets” the existential need to halt and REVERSE Immigration. She has a BAFFLING attachment to the ECHR, which ultimately rules her out for me.
Please can someone tell her to stop repeating the supposed quote from Henry Ford 'if I'd asked people what they wanted...', he never said it. But he did say "If there is any one secret of success, it lies in the ability to get the other person's point of view and see things from their point of view". I suggest she takes that on board!
Tugenhat - i'm sorry, hands down - best this candidate can do is a meloni, but no way. come on, the UK aren't going to go for it. Build on Tugenhat. A good opposition builds a better country.
Happy Christmas and a prosperous new year in advance, yes policies without proper implementation and actualisation is managerial in nature, it's more of a theory than practical
So refreshing to have someone who talks about the stuff that matters. Kemi is the one politician who can be relied on to say it as it is, rather than fluffing arounds with words moulded to appear attractive to all listeners. She's the first conservative potential leader, since Thatcher, who has the leadership character and abilities needed to make a real difference. I truly hope the conservatives have the good sense to elect her to leadership.
Farage may be wrong today, but Kemi Badenoch will forever remain a creature of Gove, a Goveian! Absolutely nothing of importance will change under her or the current Tories, the crossings in the channel will continue, fewer native British will be able to move out of their parents home, name an issue and the Tories will talk the talk, but never walk the walk.
Kemi should read Federalist papers to understand an example of principles. She does not understand what she says. People look to government to solve problems, but that is not the mission of government.
Kemi had the chance to sort out our education system and getting rid of woke, trans ideology and making sure the culture wars were won and for good. She should also have sorted out the ECHR issue and on top of that one of her briefs was to burn the EU rules that are still on the statute books. But the truth is she is really just a thing controlled by Michael Gove. Oh and Gove is now the new editor of the speccy. Sorry but Kemi only looked after Kemi and sod the country
She moved more than most on the trans issues, she couldn't as minister sort out the ECHR alone. She repealed or changed 4000 laws, she did it in phases
Exactly. Can't understand why people think Badenoch is authentically right wing. And even if she was, she would be the leader of a parliamentary party that is overwhelmingly centre-left (social democrats essentially).
@@lausanne67 Well she's authentically of her stated position -- I believe. Don't know how hard it is to reform the Tories but everything about her gives the impression of wanting to engineer change. The Lee Andersons of the world may well be authentically right wing but they could never get anything done -- outsiders banging their heads against a wall -- they'd run into all the walls Trump ran into. I view Kemi as more of a Vivek character. That might at least explain what you claim not to understand -- what it is people see in her.
I think Kemi Badenoch should be the next Conservative Leader. She’s an excellent communicator (apart from the blinking) and her practical solutions make sense. She’s far better than Robert Jenrick who comes across as a stuffed shirt and is unrelatable to the general public. I think she’d get things done. She could be a little more like Vivek Ramaswamy in her approach. He’s unafraid of debating with people who do not share his views & I’m sure there are a lot of disaffected Labour voters whom she could entice eg the red wall, unions who have weakened power, university students who want to get on with the education they paid for, women who have voters’ remorse, even the Far Left. Most of all incorporating Reform into the party. Donald Trump realised he could never be President as an Independent so he came into the Republican fold. Also, she should borrow some of Donald Trump’s practical style in that he deals with problems through the viewfinder of a business person & his time on The Apprentice eg getting a deal done & producing results. He looks at people as individuals not groups. She needs to gather a team around her of like minded people to work as 1 unit. It would be good if they could be have some experience in the field eg Health Secretary who was a doctor, Foreign Secretary who can speak languages etc. Great leaders hire people smarter than themselves. Lastly, she needs to understand how the problems of globalisation and tech are having & will continue to have on working people & an honest discussion of what that might mean in the future eg UBI.
This was a fantastic insight into a lady with common sense and an even approach to this country and how to start to resolve the issues! Reality heartwarming!
I was mostly with her until her support for Elon Musk. Free speech is one thing but I think it's a bit short sighted to not see the damage he has helped facilitate. It has gone from one extreme to the other.
I think Kemi is great. But Nigel is better. She has to understand that as long as Reform exists, countless among us will never vote for the Tories. Not that I have ever really voted for the Tories.
AT what is Nigel better? Nigel wouldn't know where to start if he got into Number 10. It's important to have him as an MP. But it's important to have someone surgical as PM.
How many other politicians would pay homage to the great Roger Scruton during a leadership contest? If the Tories have any chance of regaining the respect of conservative voters it's with Kemi at the helm.
She is far better choice than Truss, Rishi and Boris were. But I’m afraid she may have low chances to win her party support… let’s face it, her skin colour may be reason for many Tory member to vote anyone else :/ anyway, I hope she will be opposition leader, maybe even PM in the future.
There is no such thing as British identity - the scots, the welsh, the irish and the english are all very different and that difference has always been acknowledged and baked into our structures. The fact is most people who say they are British, aren't.
This is all nonsense. I studied at St Andrews after being raised by two state school teachers- did that make me upper class? Hang on, when I was there I worked in a pizza restaurant and fat face- does that mean I was working class? Or perhaps I was upper, middle and working class simultaneously? Yes Kemi, downwards social mobility does exist. Just not in the way you’re identifying. Spoon
Utter good sense. If she’d replaced Sunak at the time of his selection it’s conceivable (just) she’d be PM by now. If she’d lost but held more seats than Sunak Reform would have a larger problem. For the party’s survival the Tory party needs KM.
As much as her qualities benefit her, she would be a walking disaster for the Conservative Party. She is not going to be the most favourable candidate with the British people. My vote would personally go to James Cleverly.
🇬🇧🇬🇧" It's about bringing the party together".....well I'm sorry but the party is split 3 ways...lib/left leaning UK loving net zero high tax...centre left net zero high tax but ok Brexit..and a tine few centre right low tax anti immigration and ok Brexit... No one can turn that into a workable party...and we spent 14 years watching you eat yourselves and failing our country..😡😡
hard thing but the conservative party needs to reform its leadership structure otherwise it will always be too RW to represent the interests of the wider public. too late now and with gove behind badenoch hence the spectator, well, the conservatives are walking straight into defeat. the wider public will not support her. the johnson magic was partially a class win - the eton magic. unfortunately the sunak defeat was also related, in part, to the native question - badenoch will lose - the realism is that you have to meet the electorate where it's at. also economically truss economics didnt work...so badenoch loses on that argument too. the tories will fall rock bottom. if the challenge is to push specific economic interests onto the govt (basically a far right economic lobby group), then badenoch is the best choice - she will fight for those interests. truss as an opposition leader, rather than PM would not have spooked the markets - the markets need stability not radicals who don't know what they're doing. however i doubt badenoch will promote growth on the ground in the uk (partially because of the native question and Farage is better at that) which is also what you actually need for the economy to work and grow.... education-skills-expertise-growth of gdp - badenoch doesnt appeal to that story rather tugenhat does...
tugenhat has to make some deals with the grass roots - promise them jobs, specialist manufacturing for computer/AI technology, defence manufacturing jobs from american investors in return for their support
I thought I liked her until the bizarre stuff about assisted dying. She talks of family members who died in pain after a long suffering terminal illness when they wanted the ability to choose to die. She is `generally' in support of assisted dying but then made it about politics by saying there is no way we should even debate it with Labour in power! Wow, my opinion of her has plummeted.
@@AndyD72 Yes but it was a massive, pathetic fudge. She obviously is in favour of assisted dying, like anyone who is not twisted by religious ideology. But there are a lot of old , religious loons within the conservative membership that she feels like she has to keep on side.
Thanks to the Spectator for these interviews. The position on assisted suicide is beyond the pale for me...shame as I have hitherto been in Kemi's camp. As a member I'll hope that the alternative candidate takes the opposite view or I'm off.
Hmm, I like a lot of what she says, I have two things nagging at me though. One is how she blew the chance to get rid of all the 4000 EU directives, that made me think she was like all the rest of them. The second thing is how she played the race card when Tenant slagged her off. After apparently being against wokeness, she then played the black woman card when she had a go back at Tenant. I didn't like that at all.
I'm very imprssed with her and Jenrick also, they both seem highly intelligent and mature, and know exactly what they are talking about. I am quite fed up with juvenille journalism an journalists and their silly questions at times, they are back in the school playground and school still!
What a fabulous candidate Kemi is. If she delivers on the truth she promises we will all be the better off for it.
If Kemi wins, it will be really tempting for me to rejoin. She says the things I want to hear from a Tory leader.
Its easy to say butdifficult to achieve! She's perfectly stuffed shirt and inauthentic!
She won
@@dianamincher6479 You talk nonsense. Criticizing with zero understanding. She won big. Beating the other contendant by over 12,000 votes.
Uk needs a bold, transformational, and sincere leader.
I love that the first thing she mentions is free speech and freedom of association. Her childhood in Nigeria gives her real insight and heartfelt convictions. These essential freedoms aren’t especially popular subjects, sadly: the only reason she brings them up is that she means it.
Additionally, she's great at the dispatch box.
I've never voted Tory in my life but I think I'd vote for Kemi PM.
Fake account.
@@Gloria_Smess she got roasted at the dispatch box by the speaker when she was minister
@@waynegodfrey8565 Yes I saw a video with a headline saying she got roasted by the speaker. I watched it and that’s not what I saw. Sorry.
@@Gloria_Smess she was smacked down for not discussing policy in Parliament first if that doesnt look like a blocking to you and dont know what is,she had to apologise.
@@waynegodfrey8565 Right I see.
For me to Vote Conservative again, it has to be Kemi or maybe Jenrick. But Labour would for sure fear Kemi a lot more.
We need to vote reform otherwise the same old shit will come round again 😂
OK so the Conservatives can now promise Reform policies which they did nothing to put into practice when they had a chance. Keep voting Reform. The Conservatives can join Reform.
@@JohnnyRingo-c5v reform is a grift masquerading as a legitimate part of the democratic process. No you can't change my mind. Just another toff like Farage who thinks his policyless charisma is enough.
Either would be a godsend to Labour - but especial Badenoch, as she's deeply unlikeable and she just can't stop picking fights.
@@Beardyweirdyuk The idea is that she would be popular with Reform voters. I agree not much of a threat to Labour.
Intelligent, carismatic, sense of humour and an engineer.
You speaks well and knowledgeable will make a great leader
Kemi should lead the Conservative Party and become PM
This women is really impressive and smart. Intelligent and thorough thinking. Exciting too! Very much hope she becomes our next leader!
Talk is cheap. The Tories are now a left-wing party. William Hague says he wants the Tories to copy the Greens and the Lib Dems. That says it all. And don't forget the Tories have shown themselves to be repeated and habitual liars over many decades.
She’s got my vote.
Then you''ll be out of office for another five years. Lovely
@@darrengray5045 Well, you would know as you’re very in touch with the public.
See a doctor will ya
@@humanbeing4841You’re watching her interview and you’re not even a fan, so maybe you should see one.
@@tonya3144 I gave up on the Tories, they are lying, centre-left globalists. Reform 🇬🇧 is the future
I really like her. Tough and very smart.
She comes across so much more authentic than alot of the other world leaders. Anyone who cites Sowell and Scruton is off to a strong start.
I largely agree - but not sure that an inability to pronounce the name SOWELL correctly, speaks for too much understanding of the man and his message.
@@mikegray8776 Yeah, that was weird.
And Robert Tombs.
@mikegray8776 such petty grievances is why the country is in the state it's in.
@@mikegray8776 I heard her again mention that point again, it was someone else she was mentioning.
A really impressive individual, a breath of fresh air and exactly what this country needs! Good luck Kemi! 🤞
She was endorsed by the BNP… a far right crackpot.
She’d turn the uk into a pariah state within a week !
damn she actually speaks sense
Pity the rest of the lefty tories don’t VOTE REFORM that does make sense
Kemi is great. I hope she wins the leadership race
Kemi seems excellent.
I'd actually bother going out to vote if she gets elected leader.
We need to, we need to, we need to make sure, we need to! The same old drivel! Naughtiest thing is hacking the Labour party fr ideas!
I would trust Kemi Badenoche to turn things around. She actually has a plan, knows where she wants to go, how to get there, and what to expect on the way.
What plan? There's nothing there! She totally ignorant, and an imigrant from Nigeria and she thinks she can talk down to to group of Tory preschoolers!
What plan has she got?
@@dianamincher6479 Ask me again, I'll tell you later.
@@dianamincher6479 Clearly you haven't been listening to her. I guess you were one of the leftists who stopped watching her talk after the first minute.
If Kemi becomes leader I would return to voting Conservative, she is to the right of the party and that is what is needed.
But she can’t do any of the things she claims to.
Did you nit learn anything from the last 14 years. Regardless of the leader, the Tories are a centre left party
being to the right of the Conservative Party isn't saying much! If you vote Conservative expecting right-wing policies actually being enacted you deserve all you get.
No it would split the Right vote. Vote Reform.
@@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb I wager you are wrong. Kimi has more balls and personality/character than anyone in the conservatives for the last 40 years. I believe she has the leadership skills to make a difference and take the conservatives in a new direction.
@jackarcher9652 Sorry you feel that way, and I recognise you have good reason. Maybe I am just nostalgic about a time long ago when I thought the conservatives were a good party for the country. I despair at the weak lot on both the right and left who now clammer for control and power and all of whom just appear to take the country down the slippery slop to the bottom.
I’ve recently become a member of Reform because I felt that the Tory government had, da facto, become a bunch of Social Democrats. However, I have always liked Kemi because she espouses my own thoughts and views on what it is to be a Conservative. Unfortunately, for her, the most successful political movement in the democratic world is sadly in free fall. I get no pleasure in saying this but even she will not be able to stop its decline into obscurity and oblivion. I’d love to be able to sit down with Ms Badenoch and be given the chance to persuade her to join Reform.
100%👍
@@stephenpotts832 or even 101!!!
In that case, get used to the idea of a permanent Labour government
It’s not even about decline.
She knows full well she cannot do any of the things she wants to. The party won’t let her. We’ve been here for 14 years.
Why vote for a fake reform party? Just vote for the real deal.
Her position on Reform is exactly as you would expect. Nigel has stated before that he wants to destroy the Conservative Party. As an aspirational leader of that party, and a strong one at that, she would look weak and muddled to say and believe anything different. She sees her job as to make the Conservatives what those who turned to to Reform want to vote for in future, by offering a clear, firm , concise vision of what being British means and what is expected of a citizen of this country, based on her very obvious common sense approach. Which is really what Nigel is offering .... That doesn't rule out them working together in future but on her terms. At present she has a job to do and being clear in her principals is the most important thing right now.
The thing is Kemi we don't trust you or your party anymore , you may be sincere but your party is rotten to the core . The conservatives days are over for me.
Kemi's great, badly let down by the pathetic Tories around her.
@@jiminverness Thing is they will all tell you what you want to hear when it's time to get into power , Their track record on what they say vs what they do is shocking , last roll of the dice 🎲 for me would be Reform , if they don't cut the mustard then I'm done with it forever
Potentially a game changer. Forensic, clear thinking, effective communicator and able to cut through the crap. Unlike Robert, she took control of the interview. Balls of steel. Points of concern: needs more grace and to rise above petty point scoring in parliament and in public. Too much of a know quantity and not a break from the past - think Thatcher, Blair and Cameron.
She's a crooked engineer and a nonsense talker and non deliverer!
This Lady Talks sense
Kemi is the most hated Tory by the Labour Party...That in itself should get her the leadership that she deserves.
❤ I enjoy listening to Kemi's speeches 😊
seems like she actually thinks, not just soundbites
She's all handles and sound bites!
This country needs an honest leader like Kemi
Wow! This is literally the best thing I have heard from a politician in a decade
She is very impressive.
Only a decade? I'd say since Mrs Thatcher.
I hold my hands up! I first became aware of her name in a previous leadership context where she did very well. The cynic in me thought at the time that the Tories were strategically pushng her as a token minority to boost the image of the Party, with no real intention (or desire) of her becoming leader.
But having listened to her pitches and inverviews, I am really impressed by her and I can see why many Tory politicians are too. She seems to be the real deal! My only worry - She says all the right things but can she deliver?
That having been said - Surely she cannot do any worse than Liz or Rishi!
I will be voting for this woman. She is correct on everything as far as Im concerned. She uses her brain and isnt using soundbites.
2:00 _"We had this in 2019, when we stood on a single issue "Get Brexit Done""_
The problem was that the Tories forgot or ignored WHY Brexit became a thing in the first place. The whole point of Brexit wasn't about leaving the EU. It was about limiting immigration to controllable levels so as not to outstrip infrastructure to the serious detriment of Brits, and to keep out/banish those hostile to the UK and bringing in cultures hostile to the UK.
Most Tories STILL don't get it.
That's what it was to you and many others. To some of my other Brexit-supporting friends it was about creating a free-wheeling, deregulated libertarian city state-on-Thames. That vision of Brexit is totally irreconcilable with yours, always was.
Well done Kemi 👏
she should do an interview with James O'Brien and run rings around him on live radio
That is the best answer to the question of assisted dying I have heard. We need to tread with extreme caution in that matter and learn from some of the controversies that have surrounded various aspects of palliative care in the UK and some of the worrying issues with MAID in Canada
Love Kemi, Reform was looking good but Farage seems to have changed his stance on things so I’ll vote Conservative if Kemi wins
Who cares if she thinks she is working class or not. I don’t buy this class thing. It’s a distraction. Q is can she (or any of the others) set appropriate priorities, deliver them and is competent? That’s the Q.
It doesn't matter anymore. Even if the conservatives promised to stop migration and stop carbon net zero policies, would you vote for a party who made these things worse when in power or a party which is genuinely against these things? Conservatives aren't getting Reform voters back, they've blown it.
The best that money can buy.
I’m a one nation conservative.
I’m an Anglo-Scottish, British, European. I’m voting against the Conservative Party for the foreseeable future.
@@columbus7950 the one nations have ran the Conservative Party none stop and look where it’s got them. The party is heading to the right and it’s about time. One nations to me always tried to have it both ways while not satisfying anybody
The Labour Party are praying the conservatives choose someone ELSE,
This is one smart Lady - got my vote. And what's more, she's and Engineer, so must be right!
Kemi has helped motivate me to joining the Conservatives. I feel inspired finally. Thanks Kemi
She understands the systemic issues at play plus how to lead the Britain back into being Great again. Lots of insightful strategy based on clarifying UK values and what is necessary to be part of GB. She understands the issues at play with immigration plus what needs to be fixed to deport/reject. Her thoughtful comments on assisted dying are both sensible and nuanced. I hope the Conservative Party realise the treasure she is. To rebuild the GB is not a quick fix. It can be done with the right competent visionary leader and she seems to fit the bill.
Shame she didn’t reference GB being a predominantly Christian country where the state is above religious law- and be prepared to stand up and exclude those who don’t comply- whether Hasidic Hews or Muslim.
She has a blind spot on Netanyahu. Hes leading middle east into a conflagration.
She's got fire in the belly and that's usually handy while in opposition. But she has to do a good showing at the post office horizon inquiry where she's scheduled to appear. If she doesn't her enemies who want the leadership themselves will kneecap her bid without pity
It's Kemi's hostility to Reform that puts me off supporting her. I can't imagine voting Conservative again if they are at war with Reform (instead of allied with it and having an electoral pact.)
Until the Conservative demonstrate a really strong (Suella Braverman type) determination to end constant mass immigration, I can't go back. After they lost the election that actually attacked Suella Braverman. If things don't change radically in the Conservative Party then I see not point in voting for them, and I will vote Reform again next time. It's about MORE than party labels.
she has to be anti Reform because the cashcows who support the party want Cameron/Clegg 2.0
BAD ENOCH
Farage/Braverman etc are too much of a blunt instrument to get anything done. It would be like putting James Whale (whom I like) into power. If they got into power, they'd bang their heads very very hard against a lot of very thick walls, and then it'd all be over before they achieve anything. Whatever Farage does best, he's doing it now from the back benches. Even his biggest achievement, Brexit, was only directionally influenced by Farage. In fact, ostentatious determination is often suspect. You need to be into the how. That's what makes Kemi an attractive option. She looks like someone who would quickly and quietly get done what the shock jocks are always prating about. The Bravermans of the world is not actually how things get done.
Farage might be good at getting us out of things, at abolishing things, but he doesn't build anything.
Reform could get into No 10, rub their hands with glee, and not have the slightest idea how to carefully remove the chewing gum of Blairism from the hair of Britain.
If you want a clearer idea of what i mean : the Farages the world would abolish the license fee, and that would be their Achilles heel. There'd be a lot of pushback. BBC would become the British CNN. They'd play into their image as philistines or "right wing wreckers". it wouldn't feel great living under them. Kemi looks like the person who would quickly and quietly put some simple guardrails in place to artfully restore the BBC to something worth having.
That's actually MORE radically right wing, but also subtler.
I’m not sure about Farage, from his latest interviews it looks like he’s changed his stance on immigration and has become indifferent
She can talk the talk for sure but for me the trust is gone. I shall vote Reform from now as l feel the country has been let down by the usual suspects.
She is wrong and convincing. Frightening.
In other words she believes in everything that the Tories HAVENT done for the last 14 years
It’s a NO from me
We need her as the next leader
Nah! She did say she went from middle class to working class just by going to work in McDonald's and that's utter nonsense. It's like saying Wayne Rooney became blue blooded when he started earning big bucks .
Oh did she heck, unless you're perversely determined to take her literally in the dumbest way. She had a working class occupation for a while, lived their world for a bit -- the point she was making, very very passingly, was that she is pretty well rounded, which I think is fair, and it's baffling people miss the obvious point.
I'm the same, middle class but proud to mention I've shovelled a bit of shit from time to time and have a thorough acquaintance with the working class, working class friends etc.
Perfectly simple and valid point, not really a subject for comedy.
No she didn't, that's a straw man argument.
@@ianinkster2261 No the critics Kemi’s "working class" comment aren’t missing the point, they’re ignoring the point. Deliberately obtuse, actually.
@@olufemiadeleye9462 True. The fact they milked her passing remark for a week speaks for itself.
@jackarcher9652 I know, I know, but it's obvious she was using a shallow definition of the term, meaning broke and minimum wage, while comingling with the working class in the fuller sense. Sheesh. No need to waste an entire news cycle over it, quite disingenously.
Well here is an actual Black woman I would vote for the President of the USA.
I am surprised that no leader is talking about the rapidly increasing population in the country and the world. If we control this problem all the problems - food, climate, housing and pollution etc will settle very quickly.
Kemi is really great, but it's not enough im afraid.
The only way I could consider voting for conservatives again would be if Kemi was leader and she accepted the Reform MPs into the party with Farage as deputy leader.
We've had years and years of conservatives talking from the right and governing from the left. Kemi does talk from the right, which is good but she's part of a machine that is riddled with left wing people.
The naughtiest thing Kemi has ever done is hacking the Labour Party for fresh ideas! Bu she'll never own it?
Quotes Ford and Sowell. That will do, forget the rest.
So all it takes is being able to functionally quote some writer(btw I own a copy of Basic Economics) to get you in bed?
slag
Kemi gets my vote, I hope she becomes leader
How interesting - a politician who champions Elon Musk and celebrates free speech on X, while studiously avoiding critical media that might ask her uncomfortable questions
Actually the people might easily have said they wanted faster carriages, and Ford could claim to have provided.
Kemi, stop saying ‘I’m an engineer’ it’s starting to sound like ‘my dad was a toolmaker’
Good point!
@@AntGeezer Thatcher often referred to her scientific background. Personally, I like it and I think she does talk like an engineer.
Kemi probably would have been too much for the left leaning part of the electorate in 2024, but by 2029, we will be so desperate to be saved from Labour, she will be perfect.
A black conservative woman with an engineering background that knows what she's talking about. She is a unicorn. Tories would be crazy not to have her as a leader.
Kemi has good instincts on ‘culture war’ bollocks; seems reasonable on Foreign Policy and Net Zero alarmism; and is OK on NHS concerns - but ultimately puts Party before Country, like every Tory leader since Thatcher.
I’m not convinced she actually “gets” the existential need to halt and REVERSE Immigration.
She has a BAFFLING attachment to the ECHR, which ultimately rules her out for me.
Her views on the ECHR is that how can Germany deport people while being a member of it? That’s not being ridiculous to point that out is it
Please can someone tell her to stop repeating the supposed quote from Henry Ford 'if I'd asked people what they wanted...', he never said it. But he did say "If there is any one secret of success, it lies in the ability to get the other person's point of view and see things from their point of view". I suggest she takes that on board!
She is wrong and convincing.
Tugenhat - i'm sorry, hands down - best this candidate can do is a meloni, but no way. come on, the UK aren't going to go for it. Build on Tugenhat. A good opposition builds a better country.
Happy Christmas and a prosperous new year in advance, yes policies without proper implementation and actualisation is managerial in nature, it's more of a theory than practical
So refreshing to have someone who talks about the stuff that matters. Kemi is the one politician who can be relied on to say it as it is, rather than fluffing arounds with words moulded to appear attractive to all listeners. She's the first conservative potential leader, since Thatcher, who has the leadership character and abilities needed to make a real difference. I truly hope the conservatives have the good sense to elect her to leadership.
Farage may be wrong today, but Kemi Badenoch will forever remain a creature of Gove, a Goveian!
Absolutely nothing of importance will change under her or the current Tories, the crossings in the channel will continue, fewer native British will be able to move out of their parents home, name an issue and the Tories will talk the talk, but never walk the walk.
Well said!
Well said!
the Henry Ford quote was very good!
Except he never said it. He pretty much said the exact opposite.
Kemi should read Federalist papers to understand an example of principles. She does not understand what she says. People look to government to solve problems, but that is not the mission of government.
Kemi had the chance to sort out our education system and getting rid of woke, trans ideology and making sure the culture wars were won and for good. She should also have sorted out the ECHR issue and on top of that one of her briefs was to burn the EU rules that are still on the statute books. But the truth is she is really just a thing controlled by Michael Gove. Oh and Gove is now the new editor of the speccy. Sorry but Kemi only looked after Kemi and sod the country
She did? What chance?
She moved more than most on the trans issues, she couldn't as minister sort out the ECHR alone.
She repealed or changed 4000 laws, she did it in phases
Exactly. Can't understand why people think Badenoch is authentically right wing. And even if she was, she would be the leader of a parliamentary party that is overwhelmingly centre-left (social democrats essentially).
@@lausanne67 Well she's authentically of her stated position -- I believe. Don't know how hard it is to reform the Tories but everything about her gives the impression of wanting to engineer change. The Lee Andersons of the world may well be authentically right wing but they could never get anything done -- outsiders banging their heads against a wall -- they'd run into all the walls Trump ran into. I view Kemi as more of a Vivek character. That might at least explain what you claim not to understand -- what it is people see in her.
I think Kemi Badenoch should be the next Conservative Leader. She’s an excellent communicator (apart from the blinking) and her practical solutions make sense. She’s far better than Robert Jenrick who comes across as a stuffed shirt and is unrelatable to the general public. I think she’d get things done.
She could be a little more like Vivek Ramaswamy in her approach. He’s unafraid of debating with people who do not share his views & I’m sure there are a lot of disaffected Labour voters whom she could entice eg the red wall, unions who have weakened power, university students who want to get on with the education they paid for, women who have voters’ remorse, even the Far Left. Most of all incorporating Reform into the party. Donald Trump realised he could never be President as an Independent so he came into the Republican fold. Also, she should borrow some of Donald Trump’s practical style in that he deals with problems through the viewfinder of a business person & his time on The Apprentice eg getting a deal done & producing results. He looks at people as individuals not groups.
She needs to gather a team around her of like minded people to work as 1 unit. It would be good if they could be have some experience in the field eg Health Secretary who was a doctor, Foreign Secretary who can speak languages etc. Great leaders hire people smarter than themselves.
Lastly, she needs to understand how the problems of globalisation and tech are having & will continue to have on working people & an honest discussion of what that might mean in the future eg UBI.
With Rosie Duffield’s resignation today, you see what I mean about women who have voters’ remorse.
This was a fantastic insight into a lady with common sense and an even approach to this country and how to start to resolve the issues! Reality heartwarming!
Vote negative! Vote patronising! Vote criminal!
The best thing you can do to the conservatives is not to destroyed it completely by presenting yourself as their leader coz u can't fix their problem
Madam, you are definitely middle class. You can be as poor as you like, for a while, but you know it won't last. Not the same thing.
I was mostly with her until her support for Elon Musk. Free speech is one thing but I think it's a bit short sighted to not see the damage he has helped facilitate. It has gone from one extreme to the other.
How exactly? Twitter was a censorship hive before he took it now it’s more even than it was. So that’s apparently going from one extreme is it?
Tories thinking they can pull another Truss-like gambit. Didn't work the first time, won't work again. That's why Labour won
I think Kemi is great. But Nigel is better. She has to understand that as long as Reform exists, countless among us will never vote for the Tories. Not that I have ever really voted for the Tories.
AT what is Nigel better? Nigel wouldn't know where to start if he got into Number 10. It's important to have him as an MP. But it's important to have someone surgical as PM.
How many other politicians would pay homage to the great Roger Scruton during a leadership contest? If the Tories have any chance of regaining the respect of conservative voters it's with Kemi at the helm.
I doubt if Cleverly has even heard of him.
has everyone gone stark raving mad?
She is far better choice than Truss, Rishi and Boris were. But I’m afraid she may have low chances to win her party support… let’s face it, her skin colour may be reason for many Tory member to vote anyone else :/ anyway, I hope she will be opposition leader, maybe even PM in the future.
@@PiotrKuczaj Errr she’s in the final two and is the favourite of members. Clearly her skin colour has nothing to do with it.
You would have thought so. Glad to see we were wrong.
@ I can be wrong this way all day long 😂
The next Margaret Thatcher
10000%
Not a moment too soon.
You've got to be kidding!
Musk loves free speech…..until you criticise him !
@@trevaudio
His platform promotes free speech. That's what matters. Blue Sky Whatever it is, is just an echo chamber for Libtards.
There is no such thing as British identity - the scots, the welsh, the irish and the english are all very different and that difference has always been acknowledged and baked into our structures. The fact is most people who say they are British, aren't.
This is all nonsense. I studied at St Andrews after being raised by two state school teachers- did that make me upper class? Hang on, when I was there I worked in a pizza restaurant and fat face- does that mean I was working class? Or perhaps I was upper, middle and working class simultaneously? Yes Kemi, downwards social mobility does exist. Just not in the way you’re identifying. Spoon
Utter good sense. If she’d replaced Sunak at the time of his selection it’s conceivable (just) she’d be PM by now. If she’d lost but held more seats than Sunak Reform would have a larger problem. For the party’s survival the Tory party needs KM.
As much as her qualities benefit her, she would be a walking disaster for the Conservative Party. She is not going to be the most favourable candidate with the British people. My vote would personally go to James Cleverly.
🇬🇧🇬🇧" It's about bringing the party together".....well I'm sorry but the party is split 3 ways...lib/left leaning UK loving net zero high tax...centre left net zero high tax but ok Brexit..and a tine few centre right low tax anti immigration and ok Brexit...
No one can turn that into a workable party...and we spent 14 years watching you eat yourselves and failing our country..😡😡
hard thing but the conservative party needs to reform its leadership structure otherwise it will always be too RW to represent the interests of the wider public. too late now and with gove behind badenoch hence the spectator, well, the conservatives are walking straight into defeat. the wider public will not support her. the johnson magic was partially a class win - the eton magic. unfortunately the sunak defeat was also related, in part, to the native question - badenoch will lose - the realism is that you have to meet the electorate where it's at. also economically truss economics didnt work...so badenoch loses on that argument too. the tories will fall rock bottom. if the challenge is to push specific economic interests onto the govt (basically a far right economic lobby group), then badenoch is the best choice - she will fight for those interests. truss as an opposition leader, rather than PM would not have spooked the markets - the markets need stability not radicals who don't know what they're doing. however i doubt badenoch will promote growth on the ground in the uk (partially because of the native question and Farage is better at that) which is also what you actually need for the economy to work and grow.... education-skills-expertise-growth of gdp - badenoch doesnt appeal to that story rather tugenhat does...
tugenhat has to make some deals with the grass roots - promise them jobs, specialist manufacturing for computer/AI technology, defence manufacturing jobs from american investors in return for their support
also that they get to keep their money by offering tax exemptions on certain industries
I thought I liked her until the bizarre stuff about assisted dying.
She talks of family members who died in pain after a long suffering terminal illness when they wanted the ability to choose to die. She is `generally' in support of assisted dying but then made it about politics by saying there is no way we should even debate it with Labour in power!
Wow, my opinion of her has plummeted.
Could you clarify, did she indicate we shouldn’t debate the issue because Labour is in power and she doesn’t want to support them on anything?
That’s not at all what she said, believe she was referring to general government disfunction and incompetence.
@@AndyD72 Yes but it was a massive, pathetic fudge. She obviously is in favour of assisted dying, like anyone who is not twisted by religious ideology. But there are a lot of old , religious loons within the conservative membership that she feels like she has to keep on side.
I think she’d be a great opposition leader.
Also, frankly, it’s nice to have a black woman.
Thanks to the Spectator for these interviews. The position on assisted suicide is beyond the pale for me...shame as I have hitherto been in Kemi's camp. As a member I'll hope that the alternative candidate takes the opposite view or I'm off.
This woman has a massive ego so she can solve the Worlds problems,where have we heard that before.
All good leaders have big egos
@@oliverford5367 ego also led to their downfall eventually
Hmm, I like a lot of what she says, I have two things nagging at me though. One is how she blew the chance to get rid of all the 4000 EU directives, that made me think she was like all the rest of them. The second thing is how she played the race card when Tenant slagged her off. After apparently being against wokeness, she then played the black woman card when she had a go back at Tenant. I didn't like that at all.
@@alexpheasants She had every right to give him a taste of his own medicine and highlight his rank hypocrisy. Vile man.
I'm very imprssed with her and Jenrick also, they both seem highly intelligent and mature, and know exactly what they are talking about. I am quite fed up with juvenille journalism an journalists and their silly questions at times, they are back in the school playground and school still!
508 views. Seems about right
21:47 best answer to that question.
Can a foreign national become British PM under the UK constitution?
Singapore is a great example! Singaporean citizenship in nation comprised of many ethnic groups.
NO WAY in hell would I vote for her