Increase Your Laptop's GPU Wattage (Updated Guide) - VBIOS Flashing
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Wouldn't it be nice if all the thin and light gaming laptops could run at the same power as their bigger brothers? Well, you might be able to close the gap with a little tool called NVflash. This is my updated guide for 2024 (and beyond hopefully) for using vbios flashing to increase your GPU's power output for your laptop.
In the video, I use my Asus Zephyrus G14 to increase its wattage from 125W to 175W, and still maintain respectable temperatures and a nice performance increase, especially given the compact size of this device! But this can work on a ton of different gaming laptops, just do your research and proceed at your own risk!
My 40 series vbios roms that I've collected are linked below. These include mostly RTX 4070 and 4090 laptops, and also the Scar 16 4080. I will add to this as time goes on: drive.google.com/drive/folder...
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
5:20 How to Find the right VBIOS rom
6:40 Disable Virtualization
7:29 Make a BACKUP!!
8:16 VBIOS Flash Process
9:57 Checking/Optimizing the VBIOS
11:34 The Magic Nvidia Driver
12:49 New Asus TGP Feature for 2024
13:50 Optimizing Continued
16:04 Conclusion - Наука та технологія
Thanks for reminding us the 2023 Zephyrus G14 still doesn't have a true successor
Super sad 😔
Cant believe bro has 11k subs the quality is nasty good
Appreciate the comment, thank you 🙏
This channel is criminally underrated. Great stuff. 👏👏👏
Thanks for the support!
As usual, impressive review, thanks so much for those off the beaten path reviews.
Once you push wattage far enough, the power adaptor will be the limit. When I push my miniled modded m16 2022 cpu+gpu to 55+120w (original 45+100w) on sustain workload, battery would drain slowly. The original 240w ac adaptor couldn't keep up but the problem went away when I use my friend's 330w scar adaptor. Good video as always.
Very true!
Awesome informative video, I think this shows that laptops are definitely capable of cooling like 25 watts more than what they are rated as ootb
100%!
Hello Josh, when are you gonna do more laptop comparisons? Your OG video comparisons were great!
Next video is 2024 G14 vs G16 vs 2023 G14!
@@JoshCravesTech waiting !! 😊
Very interesting video! Congrats! Btw. what kind of mice was that white one on the footage?
Thank you! I think that’s the Razer Orochi V2
Hey thanks for the video! Question about the 2024 Zephyrus G16 laptop and the base GPU wattage slider. If you flash your vbios but only have it running at its stock 125W maximum, do the video ports still not work? Do they break from the act of flashing your vbios, or running it at 175W?
Correct, the wattage doesn’t affect the ports. The vbios itself does. Only the left side USB-C display out will work on the G16.
Thanks!
Thank you!🙏
Hey Josh - amazing content as usual. I have the same laptop, G16 4090, what's your config for the GPU? I'm currently using 145+20 Dynamic Boost and getting 19.272 Timespy score with 84C average temps.
I'm pretty satisfied with these result in games, but just wondering if you have any recommendations to improve further, taking performance and temps into consideration.
I have a stress test I use in Alan Wake 2 to see how long it can maintain a stable FPS without thermal throttling and this is the sweet spot I found so far.
Thanks and congrats on the content again.
That’s a great sweet spot! I think you’ve almost nailed it. You could increase your overclock, and try different values like 150+5, or 135+20, or 160+5. I’m sure you’ve probably tried different combos, but yeah a simple overclock of like +150 core, +150 memory should also help. Maybe also bring CPU wattage down to 15-25W if it’s fighting for power. But yeah I think you’re in a good spot overall!
@@JoshCravesTech great!
Yeah, I have set the overclock to those values from a different video of yours.
Thanks for the reply, I'll try those other combinations with less GPU boost and share the results
is 240 watt adapter even enough for the 175w vbios swap for g16? did you see any battery drain while gaming?, also FINALLY, was waiting for this vid, Awesome guide btw
I didn't personally see battery drain, but I also didn't have it pinned to 175W the whole time while gaming either. I'd say it's worth a shot and then if you notice battery drain then pick up a 280W adapter
@@JoshCravesTech thank you for the answer, I am gonna get the laptop very soon!! Excited for it
Brilliant as always - Mind reminding me, what are the downsides of flashing the 2024 Zephyrus G16 with the SCAR 18s vbios? IIRC some USB stuff didn't work but don't remember what it was :) Thanks!
Yep, the HDMI will be limited to 60Hz/1080p and the right USB-C will not have display out! The left USB-C display out will still work fine though
@@JoshCravesTech will the left usb c allow for 4k 120hz like the hdmi 2.1 does?
@@danielcasellas Yep!
Absolutely noice
Thanks!
This might be useful in a few years if I need more performance.
hi i believe I've seen you on reddit on my 4080 g14 i can now run 150w constant with 30w CPU usage after using Upsiren Ux Pro Ultra on all the VRAM / VRMS / mofets ect my max vram temp is only 82C vs 100@ stock vbios change! - i also used ptm 7950 on the gpu and the cpu so theres no LM risks i can do this without a cooler (and near max fans) and average 85 on the gpu and 80 on the cpu or if i use my iets cooler i can do it at only 3500 rpm laptop fan speed and only 70C! and it isn't much louder either once you get a good seal on the laptop cooler - cant recommend Upsiren Ux Pro Ultra + ptm 7950 enough. (all beit a little scary)
i been playing cyberpunk for just shy of 100 hours since changed the materials - i got 1300 mods and running on ray tracing overdrive @ native res with path tracing averaging 120 fps its buttery smooth too
Will it be worth it to buy the Zephyrus G16 4080 silver model ($2900)?? The silver model costs $200 more, but I'm absolutely in love with this colour. Razer 2023 is $3000 with mini Led. And do you know why that G16 silver model costs $200 more compared to the black one? Any specific reason?
Personally yeah I’d probably pay the extra for the silver, it just looks too good. I have no idea why it’s more expensive, it’s ridiculous.
Awesome vid. Thanks to your help and guides on reddit and previous videos, I flashed the vbios on my 2024 Zephyrus G16 4080 and the performance increase has been amazing. I even learnt some new tips! Do you think setting a CPU temp limit of 90C in G-helper would cause any issues or reduce performance? thanks!
Nice!! But yeah setting a temp limit should not cause any issues! If it throttles too much, then just try setting it a little higher. But usually the CPU dynamically adjusts power very well to make sure you lose little to no performance.
Do you have any discord channel? If yes, please do give me the link to join.
You're a sea of tech knowledge.
That will definitely be something I do as things grow! Really hoping the channel picks up this year. Only 4% of my viewers are actually subscribed and brands aren’t vibing with that, so as of now it hasn’t been very lucrative 🤣🤣🤣
Are you still using the Scar16 Bios for the 2023 4090 G14? Wish I had a way to get to the GPU wattage slider in GHelper for my 2023 G14....
I know, I wish we could copy the slider over! I even tried flashing a 2024 vbios to make it work but no luck. But yes I still run the Scar 16 vbios, but mostly only when I’m heavy into playing demanding single-player games. I’ll occasionally flash back to stock when I’ve been doing lots of multiplayer stuff
Hi, any chance to have a comparison on linux videos ?
does this increase gaming performance? from the benchmarks i have seen a blade with 4080 outperforms the g16 with 4090 i want to decide between g16 (2024) or a blade 16 (2024) for gaming and university but the tgp and lower performance is holding me back from buying the g16
If you look at the Legion Pro 7i 4080 model in my gaming benchmarks, that’s exactly what you’d be looking at with the Blade 16 4080. Sometimes it passes it, sometimes it doesn’t. You sometimes get more performance from the Blade mostly because the CPU. But you get more vram with the 4090 which helps in some situations. I would personally pick the G16 because the difference in performance is negligible and you get to enjoy a much lighter and thinner laptop with more tuning controls, less glare on the display, more than double the battery life, better performance on battery, way better speakers, I mean to me it’s not even close.
I would only pick the Blade if you were getting the 4090 Blade and you were only buying it for maximum fps in games and didn’t care about any other laptop aspects.
Bro do you think you can make a video and see how far you can push both the cpu (overclock) and gpu (vbios swap) of the g16? Im thinking of buying one and doing the same but obviously having some guidance would be great.
I would if I hadn’t returned it already :( it’s an insane laptop though. I had the GPU at an overclock of +250 core and +300 memory before it started to glitch out a bit. That highly depends on the GPU bin though, so it’ll be different for everyone. CPU can be pushed to like 110W+ but when both are loaded up it won’t be nearly as high, like 50W with maybe 150W GPU or so. It takes some trial and error but it’s a very capable device of providing tons of performance in the actual thinnest 16” gaming laptop you can get.
@@JoshCravesTech Man I really wish you still had it, this concept I have in mind would have made a baller video. What I have in mind for mine is to put it on one of those extreme coolers and feed it two power sources (one through brick and usb c) and then proceed to see the absolute max i can push it to LOL. 😂😂😂 You should 100% do it for another video should you get another laptop like it or something alike. Definitely baller laptop though im getting mine next week.
I followed your old g15 guide without disabling virtualization and core isolation. Should I do that additionally?
If it worked already then no need!
for my i just set ym temp target to 80 and after 10 minutes it settles @ 2460 mhz and it will sit between that and 2600 and never go over 80c
There you go, that's a great method!
I have a question please can I reverting it after that when I want, because I have Msi cyborg 15 4060 45w and I feel it so underwattage so I want to convert it from 45w to 85w if I can, and thanks
Just saw that Razer Blade 16 2023 (4080 Mercury) is on sale for $3k. Is it a better choice than the Zephyrus G16 2024 4080?
I’d still pick the G16 personally. That Blade has a regular IPS panel. I’ll take a little less performance for a much thinner/lighter laptop with more tuning options, oled display, better speakers, similar build quality, and astronomically better battery life
Thanks for your suggestion. Well, also saw that the G16 White model costs $200 more than the black one?Is there any specific reason for that?
Josh, Is there a bios that has everything working for the g16 2024 4080?
thanks
None without at least losing an output or two that I’ve tested. Granted I’ve only tested the new Scar 16 and 18 vbios on it.
When flashing the 3060vbios it semi works it boots up can’t run games. Gpu is at 310mhz any way to fix this cause I just ended up flashing the original bios back
Bro i have a question. That is my acer predator Helios 16 has a 4060 of 140w but only reaches 98w-102w maximum in almost all the games. Will this vbios trick work on this kind of situation where the gpu is of 140w but stuck at 100watts. Or should i just try the magic Nvidia driver mentioned above.
Try the Nvidia driver first! But yeah a vbios swap might also work because it could change the behavior of how often your GPU boosts.
Slightly irrelevant but can I do undervolt 7940hs while disabling the turbo boost?
Yep! I do that on mine
What do you think about 7 ultra 4060? Is it worth for $1600
My another question, Zephyrus G16 4080 is 115W or 125W?
125W by default. It only accesses the extra 10W if you are in Manual mode with GPU TGP slider maxed out or if you use G-Helper and max that slider out there. The nice thing is you don’t need to be in Manual mode for it to work in G-Helper.
Hi Josh, does Asus rog zephyrus g14 2024 models have Touch screen? Am not sure about that...They don't have Touch screen
@@hosseinelhosseinel3445 they do not :(
Would disabling virtualization affect performance of my virtual machines on VMWare?
I think you may need those for virtual machines, so just re-enable it after flashing
ok i have rtx 3060(90w) , 5800h lenovo. i was using vbios 140w for 1 yr then i switched back to stock bios. i want to ask if using the higher wattage will damage my VRMS and gpu memory and core. since my stock memory clock is 6000mhz and flash makes it 7000 and core clock can run upto 1940mhz on stock with overclock( and so i was thinking will higher wattage damage anything i have used it for like 8 9mnths but reverted back later) ALSO i have not disabled virtualization i am on win10 and vbios works for me, core isolation is disabled.
Nice! If you’re not running into problems then it’s fine. The VRMs and all that will throttle if needed.
@@JoshCravesTech i try to keep gpu temps below 80 but if i use laptop for like 4 ,5hrs on temps like 82C 83Con gpu will it be fine for regularly using for 4, 5 hrs daily
@@devanshanil2468 yes! I played through most of Cyberpunk with my GPU at 83-85C. So dozens of hours, multiple weeks, no problems. Still runs like new.
Mine says board mismatch and won’t complete the flash, do you have a fix for that?
Using cooling pads may damage fans inside laptops, right?
Not that I know of, I've never heard of that happening.
Quick question, judging by the name of the app, isn't this limited to NVIDIA GPU laptops?
Correct, Nvidia only. Sorry for not specifying!
has any vbios for the g16 4090 with working dgpu ports been discovered?
Nope not yet that I know of
@@JoshCravesTech yo for the 2024 g16 4090 i found a 175W vbios where both hdmi and the right side usb c port are working it's 263031 on techpowerup (Alienware M18 R1) just got a 20k score on timespy it's working well and i can use all my monitors now :DD
EDIT: 267240 works as well and seems to perform slightly better for me
You have a typo in your save command. It uses 2 hifens.
What vbios do you recommend for a 2023 G14 w/ a 4070
I would look for a 2023 Zephyrus G16 or TUF laptop vbios for the 4070. I don't personally have those though.
So, G16 2024, 4090. Swapped the bios. But my GPU power slider in Ghelper is still at max 105w. What am i doing wrong?
@@BravoNorris what does Nvidia control panel say? 175W? If so, you may need to edit the config file in G-Helper if for some reason it isn’t detecting the change. There’s a tab on the GitHub page for how to do that.
@@JoshCravesTech i usually check with gpu-z but yes, its 175w enabled. I'm going to search that info on github, thanks buddy!
@@JoshCravesTech for some reason i can't get it to save settings (it resets when i reopen the software) but i got a different version from the comments on github that allows me to get 140+20w and it works. Thanks pal. Performance is just so much better.
I'm just trying to do this, and this is the error in the process of flashing :
ERROR: Detecting GPU failed.
Nvflash CPU side error Code:2Error Message: Falcon In HALT or STOP state, abort uCode command issuing process.
I have just the same issue, it just does not work (i have M16 2023 with 4080)
Which version of nvflash are you using? You disabled virtualization and core isolation? And did you try Optimus mode instead of Ultimate? Make sure your GPU is not disabled and that it is indeed in Optimus.
@JoshCravesTech Actually, I'm sorry. Everything works fine. It's just me, that I downloaded older version of nvflash somehow. With the latest version, everything works. Thank you for the video and instructions. Maybe someone will check this message and avoid my mistakes
anyone know software to increase gpu wattage for nvidia laptops besides vbios
Nope, none exist
@@JoshCravesTech if only more power tools worked for Nvidia 😭
@@h1ghken It's sad. Laptop users get screwed :(
Hi josh , I have a Asus zephyrus g15 (2022) , iam facing problem with Asus optimization. When ever I press any key on my keyboard the microphone gets triggered and I keep seeing pop ups saying microphone on and off . Turning off Asus optimization is disabling other functions of my keyboard like keyboard brightness, aura , fan setting ... Can you please provide me with a solution! ..
Watch my G-Helper video and see if that fixes your problem!
I did not find solution over there ! Any other suggestion? It's really annoying seeing those popups.. help me with this please.
@@moizkhan61 you should be able to disable all Asus services in G-Helper. Uninstall Armoury Crate using the official tool from Asus. You may also need to turn off Asus Armoury Crate service in the bios:
@@JoshCravesTech did all the following things , installed g helper , disabled all Asus services . Still facing the same problem 😕
Hey! Does it work with the M16 2023 RTX4090?
Yes! Just use one of the 2023 4090 vbios linked in the description. I used the Scar 4090 vbios on my M16 when I had it and it worked great.
@@JoshCravesTech that's crazy! I'm gonna give it a go!
One more thing. I disabled turbo bust on my intel i9 14900h on M16 2023 and fps just got a bit higher on every games (RDR2, Cyberpunk, etc) so looks like i9 14900 without turbobust is enough for modern games
@@Dima-dc5mf interesting. Yeah I think in games it might be okay, it’s just I know Intel is known to have low base clocks so sometimes that can bring things to a crawl but if it’s working well for you then by all means let it ride!
Is this gonna make 4050 - 60 - 70 run at 140w ? Mine runs on 90w on cyberpunk and it's on like 70 degrees or so (g16 2023 4060) (also cpu is a mess it's at 95 always) also cyberpunk won't take OC which is sad ( i put +280 core clock on it on fh5 and it doesn't even flinch but cyberpunk is not happy with it )
Sounds like Cyberpunk is really pushing your CPU and not your GPU. Are you using DLSS and playing at a resolution lower than QHD? You could try the vbios trick for sure though. Might help!
@@JoshCravesTech yeah 1080p with ray tracing and path tracing on . I put it on auto because i didn't wanna test everything
@@Savi159 yeah that’s why, it’s the 1080p resolution that’s pushing everything from the GPU to CPU. So you might not see any performance increase with a vbios. It would be hard to say, but you can always try it and then flash back if it’s not helping.
@@JoshCravesTech i'm just looking forward to the day jarrod uploads something like "HOW TO FIX NVIDIA'S VOLTAGE LIMIT" I'll find true happiness then
@JoshCravesTech also greay content , you are very very underated . Been with you since the g15 optimization guide
sadly i dont think i can do this with my g15 advantage edition its supposed to go to 190w but cant even do that due to gpu throttle XD
Probably not 🤣 also I don’t think this would work with AMD GPU’s regardless
@@JoshCravesTech The throttle really ruins my laptop :( forced to use 80% fans speeds and it still throttles (cleaned inside)
@@OblivionPrime could be dried up Liquid Metal. Shouldn’t be throttling like that.
Oh hey look, I'm here early!
Hi Josh! Do you think it could be working on the new G16 zephyrus with AMD Ryzen 370 AI HX?
Yep! The CPU typically makes no difference so yes it should work fine
There is no point in doing this for a 4060 laptop right?
If your 4060 laptop is at 100W or more already then the gains would be very small unless you’re trying to get every last drop of fps possible
Yoooooo, is this safe ? whats the side effects ?
@@HITMAN80g increased heat. You can always flash back to stock if it’s too much. For most laptops it’s fairly safe, can’t guarantee zero risk though.
Just after 1 hour from posting
what about cpu wattage
CPU wattage is limited by the manufacturer. You can sometimes go beyond their limits with software like UXTU, but it may not work.